The Prepper Broadcasting Network - PHOENIX SURVIVAL W/ PHIL MOF Modern Day Problems with Old School Solutions

Episode Date: December 29, 2023

When living in a society of instant gratification, you tend to lose yourself in 1st world problems. Always remember there will be tough times in which old school solutions are the best option. Knowing what those are ,could be the advantage you need to get out of a tough spot.

I keep on moving forward Always getting closer Marching till it's over And just like a soldier I keep on moving forward Always getting closer I'm marching till it's over And just like a soldier

I keep on moving forward. Always getting closer. Marching to your temple. I'm dressed like a soldier. I keep on moving forward. Always getting closer. Marching to your temple. So the reason y'all are watching me and Jordan Ferguson-Smith right now,

unless she's changed her name and I just didn't get the memo. No, no, let's do it. But the reason you're watching the two of us right now is because she asked me to come on her show and then encounter technical difficulties. So as a result of us using my interface, I get to Shanghai her for some patron-only content. Yeah. So, Jordan, for my listeners that don't know who in the world you are, like, give them the elevator pitch. Like, I know your backstory, but what is your hero journey?

My hero journey? Oh, gosh. I've not heard it called in that way. Well, essentially, I'm Jay Ferg. That's what everyone knows me as, or Jay Fergy. I was a podcaster on PBN for a family affair. Went through some it for Phoenix Survival. Then I got sick, had a baby, so that's been on a hiatus as well. So now I'm hoping to really hit the ground running again with Phoenix Survival. And to get you back on the horse, you decided to bring me into this for some incredible laughs. Well, you know, for those who don't know, Phil and I are kind of like the brother-sister of PBN. That sounds about right

yeah well james said we're more like siblings the way we pick at each other and i think we do have more sibling love than anything so i was like you know what why not have someone i see as family be the person to set me off on the whole thing because honestly i remember my very first podcast i did and i felt so awkward and so uncomfortable even though nobody could see me and it was my show to do whatever i want it just felt terrifying and it's like you know what if i'm gonna do this all over again my first show needs to be with phil i'm comfortable with you uh if we go off the rails no one's gonna care because well it's it's phil and jordan so i mean we're gonna go off the rails, no one's going to care because, well, it's Phil and Jordan. I mean, we're going to go off the rails.

That's what we do. It really is. But you know what? I figured why not have someone with me who, because it's been a hot minute for me. I'm still suffering from post baby head, baby brain. So it's like, you know, it'd be good to have something that's very organic in its own. Yeah. And for your listeners, like my backstory is nothing special. I enlisted when I was 17 years old with this very high minded ideal of like, you know, defending my country and defending my fellow countrymen over the next six years, I saw a combat tour in Iraq and then kind

of in our quasi combat tour in post Katrina then kind of a quasi-combat tour in post-Hurricane Katrina, New Orleans. Had another deployment coming up in 2008 that we already knew about in 2005, and I wasn't sticking around for any more of that craziness. So I left the military, went back to college, finished that, got married, had a child, and then indulged myself in the crazy world of preparedness. Because, like, you know, on the back of seeing two areas ripped in half, one by a war and the other by almost another war, I kind of decided that I didn't want my family to be screwed when the world fell apart. I get that. I mean, and I grew up in the middle of nowhere in Arkansas. No, it's just funny is how close we were, but how vastly, you know, I grew up BFE, six cousins, barely scraping by with four siblings.

Then to grow up and being taught, you needed to be able to do whatever you could for your family. So preparedness started, you know, quite at a very young age for me and then growing up experiencing hunger and cold and everything else. I was like, nope, I refuse to live like that as an adult. Yeah. And the thing about it, like from my perspective, is my parents weren't my, even though a majority of the things that like I identify as things I learned about preparedness from my parents, they would never identify themselves as preppers. They think prepping is a little nutty. But at the same time, we grew up in Gulf Coast, East Texas, not very far from the Gulf of Mexico. I can distinctly

remember getting ready for hurricanes and evacuating from hurricanes before I was 10 years old. Like this was, it was just a part of life living in this part of the country. And hurricanes was, that was our, like Uncle Randy always says, what's your zombie? Hurricanes were our zombie. Tornadoes was ours. Yeah. But when you had a big cat three, cat four coming in, like you got, you got the bin full of food. You got the rice and the beans.

You got the peanut butter. Like you, you you you started intentionally eating the fridge down you know what i'm saying like you did all these things getting ready for what might come and we weren't a wealthy family so like there was no generator there was no there was none of a lot of stuff frankly my wife and i've done to get ready for hurricanes, living in about the same situation. But it was always with this idea of we know what our basic needs are. You need food, you need water, you need shelter. It doesn't matter how you accomplish those goals, but you've got to get them accomplished because my family not being able to provide for ourselves was never an option. No, I get, you know, it's funny that you say that your parents thought it was loony because for me back in the day, prepper wasn't even a word.

It was survivalist. And I remember being about seven. Yeah, seven. I told my mom, I'm a survivalist. I had made up my mind because I'd learned, I'd been taught really early, you know, from my mother, you have to get ready for everything. But God forbid using the word survivalist was this taboo that when i told her that she goes oh so you're an anarchist and i'm like i mean uh what no and

she goes well so you would shoot a cop and i was like if they were doing something wrong that would potentially hurt me or my family then yes she goes well i want nothing to do with it. Okay. And then that started my pivotal turn in my prep and journey as a child through adulthood. And I think that really set the standard for realizing, okay, this is not someone I can talk to about what I want to do. But I was that person in the background. Like my mom would go grocery shopping and it'd be junk food. And I'd be like, mom, where's the food? Where's the canned goods? Where's the vegetables? And it's like, I always had to be that person. And you

grow up really fast when you don't have anything at all. So it's one of those things you learn what's important and what what's not. Yeah, I mean, I guess, you know, from my perspective, it always just, it always loops back around to this idea that like there are principally three kinds of people in the world. There are people who do not realize or won't acknowledge that there are things threatening them. There are people who acknowledge or realize there are threats, but they don't think they can do anything about it. Then you get the third type, which is us, which says, I know there are threats and I know there think they can do anything about it then you get the third type which is us which says I know there are threats and I know there's something I can do about it and then that third type winds up being your person who whether they call themselves prepper survivalist whatever it doesn't matter what they call themselves it doesn't matter if

they call themselves nothing at all but those are the people you're going to see who start to take steps to hedge themselves against a potential whatever. It doesn't matter if you're getting ready for the fall of humanity or just, you know, getting your power knocked out for an hour. It doesn't matter. It's like I tell everybody, I'm like, you know, I inhabit this weird crossroads in the preparedness space because like my education education my background i'm a business guy i have a literal degree in business management a concentration economics and finance i do whole podcast episodes about how to set up a home budget how to plan for your future and 401ks and retirement all this stuff most preparedness people don't even think about because they're locked in this mind frame of well social security is Security is going to evaporate and the economy is going to collapse before I get to retirement

age, so it doesn't matter. But then my response is, but what happens if it doesn't? What happens if you turn 65 and you don't want to work until the day you die? Even if that does happen, what about until then? Yeah. I mean, look, you and I both know that there are people who make tons and tons of money who are still always broke. And then there are people who managed to scrape by on fairly meager incomes because they know how to stretch a dollar. They know how to prioritize things. They know how

to watch their money. Like my experience has been that most economic hardship is on the spending side of the equation, not the income side. And it sounds like a lot of people push back against that. They don't like to hear that. But I'm like, but this has been my experience. I've, you know, what I make now, I've made literally half this. What my wife makes now, she's made half this. And we still manage to make it work. Because we went from a two house income to a one house income momentarily. And we are

scraping by, but we are getting by. And it's been rough, but I mean, it's like, oh, well, we thought it was rough with two incomes. Now it's even rougher with just one. But it's like, We thought it was rough with two incomes. Now it's even rougher with just one. But it's like it's it's not that it's not doable. It's just not easy. No, it's not. Unfortunately, I wish we were in a time where I could be a stay at home mother and raise our son and do what I need to for the household and have more time for the prepping. But unfortunately, we're in a time where I have to this week go out and apply for a second job

yeah well I mean what you're describing is just tons of like sacrifice and discipline and I don't know I tend to think those traits that carry most people through most problems but you know call what it is discipline is not a common personality trait anymore and there's a lot of people in the world that just don't like the idea of having to sacrifice i think we've you are trying your best not to like eject water out your nose right now it went down the wrong tube and i was trying to keep them i mean i at least muted it. I forgot you could still see me. Oh, I could see the eyeballs like doing this number. It went down the wrong tube in my nose and throat.

I have done that on stream before with a full mouthful of coffee and it didn't end well. I don't recommend you irrigate your sinuses with coffee, by the way. It's a painful way to go. You know what's worse than coffee? Tea. Sweet tea. It smells like vomit the rest of the day. Oh.

Moving on. All right. So the whole point to the whole podcast. The point to the whole. Yeah. The whole subject matter itself is actually modern problems with not so modern solutions. So basically, we have first world problems right but what happens when you've got a society who's so set on first world solutions it's so easy it's so convenient but it really almost goes back down to the full basics

of being a prepper on on the not so modern solutions the not soso-modern solutions, the not-so-modern skill sets and ways of fixing things. So I actually have a note on here. You have notes? Wow, we are like hyper-prepared. Yeah, well, I mean, that was one of those things that I had started sitting down and talked about it and it was more or less you know well okay so I brought the topic up to Chris and I was like I want to do this he goes I love you but I don't want to do this one with you I'm like well that's okay I mean he he

supports me it doesn't mean he has to be actively he's actively. It doesn't mean he has to be actively. He's actively supporting. It doesn't mean he has to be an active participant. He wants to be a silent partner. I can understand that. So, I mean, a super basic one was like, I mean, and I went super basic, was natural remedies, heating and cooking and cooling. Like those are simple, several simple ones that people really don't give any extra thought to like natural remedies. We already know and in the pharmaceutical industry, medicines becoming harder and harder to come by even your basic ones, and there's going to even be a bigger shortage. And we already know that

they're already starting to limit how many OTCs you can, like cough syrups. You can only buy like two cold and flu from Walmart over the counter, which I needed to double check that here, but I haven't had a chance yet. But there are certain locations that are limited in that. You're getting less and less that you can buy as far as for cold and flu season. We know this winter is probably going to be one of the hardest ones that's going to hit us. So for example, cold and flu. Okay. You've got day quill, night quill. What happens when you don't have that? You can make fire cider. I mean, it smells like a foot, but it works great.

I mean, it smells like a foot, but it works great. But I mean, people don't think about that. Apple cider vinegar, garlic, ginger, anything that's going to induce warming. Jalapenos, like you let it sit. It's its own tincture. Being able to make elderberry syrup, which I used to do for my older three. And I would take the elderberry syrup and I would actually turn them into gummies. So I would use the syrup when they were actively sick, but I'd give them a gummy every day to work as an immune booster because elderberry is amazing for not only your immune system and your respiratory, but it's going to do, it's got so many vitamins and minerals in it

anyway. So. Yeah. And I was going to add to add to that like it's it should be well known in most circles but if you don't if somebody out there doesn't know honey if you and i don't mean grocery store honey go find a beekeeper go find a farmer's market go find a little a little shop on the corner if you can find honey that is harvested fairly close to wherever you live, the closer the better, that is going to very naturally help you out with seasonal allergies. If you can hear me right now, I sound a little nasally. I'm in the process of getting over a cold, and Mrs. Matter of Facts just started one. So, like, it's that kind of season. But, like, the two of us, we eat honey as just a natural part of our diet.

Like the two of us, we eat honey as just a natural part of our diet. Honestly, we've been on a real big health kick for about the last six months where we've been trying to get high fructose corn syrup, artificial sweeteners, frigging preservatives, anything other than food out of our food. And we've been substituting honey for a lot of things like instead of using pancake syrup or anytime we get an opportunity to use honey instead of another sweetener that's what we go to now it's still sugar but at least it's sugar that came from nature because it be threw it up and your body knows what to do with it as opposed to saccharin and you know splenda every other day like we've gotten away from pancake syrup and we use real maple syrup the taste is very different it's not as sweet but we like it because it's a natural sugar yeah over a refined sugar but we we do the same thing we actually have a farmer's market here that's done uh for anyone who's in the

myrtle beach area there are lots of areas murrell's inlet carolina forest and um lots of areas, Merle's Inlet, Carolina Forest, and Market Commons. I had to think what it's called. They all have farmers markets in which you have people who come sell bees or honey that they actually raise here. And one of the gentlemen actually is all about talking about the health benefits. He even will include the wax combs in some of them because even the wax combs or the caps can actually help build up a tolerance for allergies as well. And he'll actually sit there and chew on one every day as a way without getting too much sweet in him, he can chew the combs or the caps and still get the benefits. So yeah, honey is amazing. But that just goes to show there are other ways of being able to treat your family

during illness other than an over-the-counter that's going to be full of red dye or red plus 40 or whatever it is, the sugars, the chemicals. At least then we know natural medicine works. It's worked for hundreds of years. It worked before us. And what a lot of people don't realize is a lot of the OTCs or medications that they get today were all derived from a plant-based or natural remedy itself. Aspirin came from willow bark. I mean, the medication that's used to treat malaria is from a plant that's grown in those marshes.

So it's one of those things where people don't realize. I mean, Julesweed treats poison ivy. Julesweed usually grows close to poison ivy, especially in a creek bed. You can make a tea out of golden broad, which most people consider to be a nuisance in a weed, and is a natural anti-inflammatory. It's also great for your urinary tract. Yep. And eosinia, old man's beard, another very common remedy. I mean, I think a lot of, I think a lot of like home remedies and natural medicine, it gets this bad reputation for being like quackery, but it's like you said, you know, like medicine men and natural healers and even doctors pre like 500 years ago had the ability to heal

the sick. And that has existed far, far longer than the West or modern society. So my question, I always go back to this idea that like 500 years ago, if you had a fever, they knew something to do to treat it because you didn't, you didn't die every time you ran a fever. Well, I mean, sore throats were treated with plant roots, mallow, marshmallow. The marshmallow that we eat in the store today is a sweeter treat from the true marshmallow or the mallow, which was used to treat sore throats. I mean, it's like with the treats we eat today, we're based off of plants too. It's just, it's ridiculous that people are, I understand where it's skeptic, you could be skeptical, but so for me, like essential oils,

I really have a hard time with essential oils because a lot of times those processes remove any of the beneficial parts of it. If you believe they work, that's great. I personally haven't experienced anything from essential oils that helps, but I have personally with herbal medicine. I mean, I think it's a great source that people need to keep in mind. I mean, I think it's a great source that people need to keep in mind. We may live in a first world, but it doesn't mean those first world solutions are the best for us. I'll go so far as to say that two years ago, well, a year ago and a few months in 2022 at Prepper Camp, I'm sure you remember me and my wife were both like dying from a sinus infection, right? And we had both gone to the doctor. We had been prescribed antibiotics and a steroid and they did, to be frank, nothing. Like I came to prepper camp, still cough. It sounded like I

had tuberculosis. It was bad. And like, you know, it's like a normal sinus infection. You get up, you cough it out, you sneeze it out. You blow the most incredible looking mucus out of your nose and everything every morning. And then after that, you're okay for the rest of the day. But we were miserable. And we're also living in a tent in the woods, in the cold. It wasn't a great environment. My wife took a class on natural medicine at Prepper Camp and found out that goldenrod apparently was a natural anti-inflammatory and was supposedly good for sinus infections she found she as soon as we came home she went harvested goldenrod from our front lawn started making a tea out of it three days my sinus infection was gone three oh i don't doubt it and that's another thing there's a lot of people don't realize

what you consider a nuisance plant typically isn't. It's only a nuisance or a weed because it's not what you want in that area. A weed is something that you just don't want in that spot. So in Mississippi, mallows are everywhere in the ditch. Goldenrod, same everywhere. Goldenrod is great. I have a condition called interstitial cystitis, which is also known as painful bladder. So I can't drink refined sugars. And I didn't know I had this health issue all my life. I found out as an adult, which explains a lot, but I actually right before, actually right before I had my renal issue, I was given some goldenrod drops. And that actually helped my bladder and kidney issues subside long enough for me to get through the weekend I was traveling and teaching. And then, you know, my health issues were much stronger than just a simple, but to know that that could help for initial treatment was great, because it gave me a little bit of comfort. I wouldn't have had that entire weekend in a tent in the middle of nowhere away from my own bed. But so, you know, we all

know natural medicine is a big one, but also a second one is heating and cooking. I mean, you and I both know what we're, we're avid campers. We, we like to have secondary sources because, yeah, we both live in the south, but we do live in areas where we have been known to get snowed in. We have been known to lose power and not just from tornadoes or hurricanes, but from, you know, those freak winters. And that's another thing for me. My secondary heat source I'm avid on is a kerosene heater because there's no guarantee the power is going to always be working and there's no guarantee it's going to go on right away. I mean, there was a storm, what was it? 2015? Maybe, no, no, no, no, no. 2006 or five, there's a huge, huge snow front that hit the Southern states. i think all of us arkansas mississippi maybe even

y'all were complete we were completely out of power for like a week i don't know but i can tell you that in 2000 it was in the 2000s when it hit because 2008 okay it was in the and the reason i could tell you was 2008 is because I graduated college in 2009. In December 2008, I was on my way to college to take a couple of finals, and it started snowing. Now, you can understand, living as close as I do to New Orleans, Louisiana, it's snowing. It's kind of remarkable. But I wound up stuck in traffic for about three and a half hours because two 18-wheelers, one 18-wheeler came off the road, crossed the interstate, and hit another one. And it deadlocked the entire Interstate 12 in both directions. It took a while to get off the interstate because while I'm sitting there stuck in traffic, I'm listening to AM radio to get some intelligence and find out that the entire college is shut down.

No surprise. Everything was shut down. and find out that the entire college is shut down. No surprise. Everything was shut down. Well, in the time it took me to turn around and drive back home on the back roads because I didn't want to get back on the interstate, by the time I got back to my apartment 40 minutes away from where the college was, I had six inches of snow piled up in the bed of my truck.

Okay, yeah. So we were fortunate that when our power went out, my mother had a cast iron fireplace or a metal fireplace. It had the iron encasement and you couldn't put anything on top because it melted. But it was a good thing because that year we ended up using that as a cooking source, put a, being without power, living in Mississippi, I learned real quick kerosene heaters are amazing, especially if you're in a house that doesn't have a fireplace. Well, here in South Carolina, our landlord actually took out our fireplaces because of the insurance cost for it. It's a high thing for them. insurance cost for it. It's a high thing for them. So we have a fireplace box, but it is completely closed off. The ceiling, the roof is sealed. So I have a spot though, where I can set a kerosene heater and still heat up the entire lower half of our house that we've actually gone as far as to meet. Well, I've gone as far as to grabbing the weather strips and I'm restripping

all the windows because they all have gaps in the door so I'm actually have a once it starts to get a little cooler here like the next month I'll actually hang like a blanket above the door and drop it so it keeps the air from coming through but it, that's another thing you got to think of. It may be poor or tacky looking, but when it comes down to your own warmth, you'll do what you have to. I mean, my duplex is small enough. If I run, run the crock pot, um, and a candle, the upstairs is hot as all get out, but at least then we know our bedroom is going to be warm. Yeah, we're fortunate that our home does have a fireplace. Although like it doesn't usually, it doesn't get cold enough that survival from the cold down here is a problem for many months out of the year. We usually have the opposite problem where your power goes out in freaking august from a hurricane and it's like 98 degrees outside and 150 relative humidity right and i

don't think people realize in the south august is the hottest one of the hottest months july isn't near as bad as august yeah august is freaking stifling now i i will say that like we have some of the same problems because because, again, our big issue down here is hurricanes, and that's what most people learn to prepare for, because it's not even a question of if, it's when. But a lot of what we deal with is, like, okay, the power's going to be out for two days to a week to a month, depending on where you're at and how bad it hits, and you still have to be able to get your basic needs taken care of so like the day after hurricane ida a couple years ago i went and got like our our 10 by 10 pop-up tent and set it up in the in the front yard as far away from the house like it was actually in the street a little

bit but i set it up out there put some lawn chairs underneath and said my family could like get outside be protected from the sun get some breeze and keep ourselves cool because it was just so stifling hot in the house. And at the same time, we immediately fell back into a lot of our camping gear because we are avid campers. So, of course, I've got, you know, the old school green Coleman two burner out there. And I've got, you know, like I always have at a minimum two full propane tanks on the premises to the big 20 pounders full. And the minute like the third one gets empty, it gets changed out. So I've always got to, you know, 40 pounds of propane to get you through a whole lot of cooking and heating up water. But we've also got like a half quart of firewood on the side of the house. I

mean, we have methods to do everything we need to do sans electricity because when you get hit by big enough hurricane you're it's not it's not an if it's a when and how long you're gonna lose power um the day after hurricane ida we're on city water so usually we're not in too bad a shape there but the day after hurricane ida the water pressure was zero so on top of not having power on top of having two oak trees sitting on the house and one in the front yard on top of all the other problems we had we also had zero water pressure which meant that the rain catch on the back of the house that was what we were using to bathe ourselves to flush toilets like that was our that was our non-potable water source and we have a 28 day supply of bottled water sitting on the shelf

that we immediately dug into for cooking for drinking for me i mean the day after hurricane ida i had a cigar and a cup of coffee in my front yard which might sound crazy given how bad that hurricane was but it was like we're not gonna starve we have everything we need to take care of ourselves i want to have a cup of coffee and a cigar because dad gum it after the night we had you know huddled up in the hallway while that thing ripped over the top of us i felt like i deserved it but it's yeah i mean there there's, you could, you could have quote unquote new school solutions to a lot of these problems, but quite frankly, sometimes the

old school solutions work really well. I mean, it's really hard to argue with the idea of having a half quart of firewood and a little fire pit because you can keep yourself warm and you can cook over it. Well, we, we have a little fire pit in our yard right next to us our tiny little yard on the side and that little pit can put off some serious heat and it works i mean we can cook on it um we've got a grill but if you don't have charcoal then what's the point but we always have a ability to be able to cook in the fire pit. Sorry. I was trying to find something that I was going to mention that I was looking into for cooling.

So I wasn't trying to seem rude. I recommend Nudity. I mean, yes. That is true. I'm just calling it the way it is. When it's hot outside and the power's out and the air condition's out, you're going to see my big hairy chubby butt out front with no

shirt on because it's hot and I need to cool off I mean but you I mean you acclimate I mean I remember when you I had to wear long sleeves all year because I picked up some sort of really weird burns up my arm and just to keep it covered so speaking of which you said cigars, um, oh, mine are right there. I have my Herfador in both my boxes over there full of my cigars. So, um, but I had found at one of the hardware stores, I can't remember if it was Lowe's or Home Depot, but they had the ceiling fan basically on a stand. i don't know i haven't been able to find it anymore um but i was looking into something like that for prepper camp because i had found a solar powered fan it was supposed to be a larger one but it didn't you know it wasn't going to come

in in time um because i wanted to look at secondary means of being able to, even if it was just to circulate the air, sometimes just circuit. I mean, that's, that's the real reason why people don't realize why we have fans on our porches here in the South is it's not to cool us all, not to necessarily blow air, but to circulate, to move it, move in air is. Because the moving air is going to be more cooling than just sitting there when it's stagnant, especially here in more humid climates. Like in Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, you see porch fans all the time.

And I've had, you know, a bunch of northerner individuals go, well, why do you have a fan? It's like, it's just the surface. I heard you almost say Yankee. I got you, girl. I almost did say Yankee because I know you got quite a few yank i love you all my northern brethren i'm just going to give you i love y'all too yank's a very common term for us here in the south but it's just one of those things where you want to circulate and move the air to cool off. And that's, that's a big one is being able to have

that. So I am trying to find a way to set up, um, even for like the beach days when we take little man since he's so little and have a pop-up and I want to set up a little solar panel. And cause I mean, I have a little one that is portable and connect it in a way. So then it just circulates because usually sitting there, the, the air circulating is going to be more relief than sitting there and it being stagnant. Yeah. Well, we actually got for our camping set recently. And for my wife and my daughter, it's more the white noise. But my wife got a, like, you know, about an eight or nine inch square.

Yeah, a little battery powered box fan with a light on it. And when we set up our big family tent, that goes up in the gear loft. So it is combination nightlight, fan. And I did all the power calculations to figure out that on power level 3 of 4, it will run about 9 hours on a charge. So I got two cheap little fans from Amazon. I got them when they were both like one was six bucks one was eight bucks and they're normally like 21 a piece or if not more and I took them with me to prepper camp this last year this year and the orange one had tripod legs with the camera I mean

with the flashlight and they were both USB chargers because I got one for the dog but he ended up not needing it because he never left his tent up on the hill. But that one that had the little legs and the tripod, they worked great for what they were. All I had to do was charge them or stick them on the solar panel and let them charge up and they'd last a good bit that even Ryan's son, Colin, got use out of one of the fans when he was taking a nap in my little pop-up shelter on the back of our booth. So, I mean, those little fans can be handy, especially if you have a way to charge them outside of, I mean, outside of electricity, if that's the issue. That's definitely a modern-day solution, though. But I got something for you.

It is. Because when you talked to me about this, don't ask why, but my brain went went this direction i'm sure you've heard of ozempic haven't you yes okay ozempic for anybody that's not aware is like a prescription i guess an injection that a lot of people are getting suppose it was originally it was originally primarily used on diabetics. It's supposed to be used on diabetics. But a lot of let's just say that a lot of people have latched on to this as the miracle weight loss drug because it suppresses your appetite and it keeps your blood sugar in check. And it helps people lose weight who have not been able to. been able to. Comma, however, when, oh yeah, about eight months ago now, my wife and I, like neither one of us was totally happy with our weight. I have been fighting hypoglycemia for about 10 years now, which means I am heading towards being type two diabetic, but I don't

do anything about it. My wife just generally, like she had her foot torn off in a car accident when she was 18 years old. And as a result, every extra pound she carries is hell on an already bad ankle. So for our own reasons, the two of us both said it's time to clean up our eating. It's time to get exercise. We got to do this. And the net result of eight months of work is that my wife has lost almost 40 pounds. I've lost almost 30. My blood sugar is freaking amazing. My wife is walking around without pain for the first time since she was in her 20s. It's been great all along the way. But the reason I bring up this in the context of Ozempic is a lot of my wife knows a lot of women who went and got ozempic because they wanted to lose weight

and lo and behold the minute they got off ozempic their weight shot right back up to what it was before because they didn't do the thing my wife and i did which was change our lifestyle change our eating habits change our exercise regime and every last one of them went right back up to the weight they were before if not even higher so the to me this is one of those I wouldn't I would categorize being overweight as a modern-day problem it's something that doesn't happen in developing countries it doesn't happen in poor nations because if you're poor you don't eat enough to get overweight I mean it's just kind of way it works i will never i will never forget for the rest of my life 21 year old

me who didn't really know the way the world worked yet but i figured it out real fast but i had a local iraqi comment to me while i was in iraq that america must be the richest nation on earth because our poor people are so fat straight out of his mouth well most people most foreigners think that when you hear that the u.s is lined with gold that they actually expect it because of yeah no i'm but that's that's the thing of it most foreigners like most foreigners understand from their perspective that if people have if your poor people have access to clean water and plenty of food you are a rich freaking nation because in their nation if you're poor you are skipping meals and drinking bad water that's just the way it works so i see this as a first world

problem that people have tried to create a first world solution to, but the old school solution is still the one that works. Well, you take the USDA food pyramid, flip it entirely on its head because we as human beings were never designed to eat as much carbohydrates and crap as we do, eat more meat, more fat, more protein, cut all the preservatives and all the crap out of our diet that's been put in there for the last 40 or 50 years. And then stop eating when you're full and go walk around more. Simple prescription and it works. It's funny that you say that because it's accurate. I mean, when I went high fat, high protein, Chris and I almost eat little to no carbs except for rice and beans.

Rice is one of those things. We can eat plain white rice. I mean, I'll still be hungry later, but it's not as harsh. I hate to say it, but we don't do any refined sugars. I can't buy most of the processed foods anyways, because I have a soy allergy. And so my soy allergy has gotten to the point I'm almost to anaphylaxis stage. And it's like, well, who needs that much soy in the house anyways? So we don't, none of our food products have soy in it. We don't buy pre-processed because it's typically safer for me just to make it ourselves. Like you said, we don't hardly do any carbs at all. I mean, I have tortillas in there for if I get a hankering for a PB&J, I make a roll. And I'm eating more peanut butter than

anything, but I get it. So real quick though, I wanted to backtrack to the Ozempic. So there's actually a lot of issues to that, that a lot of people aren't aware of. I know someone who's a diabetic who takes it or took it and had to come off of it, as well as someone else who was taking it for weight gain. And the primary issue with Ozempic is it causes severe stomach issues. Now, what they're not disclosing is long-term use of ozempic causes permanent stomach and intestinal issues. So you're using a first world solution, but you're causing a long-term damage, which this first, you know, the old school solution of watching what you eat, exercising and being proactive is the safest. Honestly, yes, it's going to hurt at first, but muscle breaking down tends to hurt.

You being overweight is going to be hard on your joints. But until you get moving and remove that weight, your joints are taking twice of a beating. I mean, I get it completely. And since you brought up the muscle loss, like that was my wife and I kind of sideways, I guess, related to Zympic for weight loss. But like my wife and I know somebody that went and related to ozempic for weight loss but like my wife and I know somebody that went and got gastric bypass several months ago and she before you know when I knew her previously yeah she struggled with her weight she was a little bit of a heftier girl she could definitely have stood to lose a few pounds and eventually she got gastric bypass she's lost a lot of weight it's you know she's probably closer to an ideal weight now but i've mentioned

to my wife two things that kind of scare me one is that she looks older and i don't know like i don't know a i don't know a better way to say this and there's no polite way to tell a woman you can lose weight too fast well it's i don't even think it's the weight loss i think it's malnourishment uh that that is possible becauseishment. That is possible because when you go from having an average-sized stomach to a stomach that's this big, you know, it's about the size of a quarter. Well, that and people aren't looking at what's going to be more nutritionally value. They're going to be looking at what tastes good. So if this is all they get to eat for a meal, most likely they're going to eat that in a cheeseburger. It's going to be that much of a cheeseburger. They're not looking at,

and a lot of people make the mistake with salads. Instead of getting romaine or a dark leaf, which is going to have more nutrition in it, they get iceberg. Iceberg has zero nutritional value. It's essentially just water. So you're right. They are essentially starving themselves because it comes down to, well, you know, you, you still need to portion, but when you have a stomach that small, how, how are you getting enough of what you need in the day to be able to keep your body going? Yeah, I agree with you. It probably is a lot of malnourishment because people don't essentially change the way they eat.

They think a gastric bypass is, oh, I'm fixed. But a lot of those people also don't realize that you can re-stretch your stomach out or you can blow out your stomach. Very common. Some of them do it. Well, they'll eat so quickly, so fast that they blow the stomach out

and they end up being more damaged in the long run because they tore it or over time they keep expanding how much they eat and they stretch it back out and then their stomach's back to the size it was post I mean pre-surgery and they're not they're not helping themselves and they're still eating junk yeah and I guess from my perspective and like this, this is, this has also been a lot of the driver behind the way my wife and I approached. And it's, I can't even say like the way we approach weight loss, her primary motivation was weight loss. Mine was honestly blood sugar control. Like I've lost weight because I'm eating better and

exercising more, but that wasn't my goal. My goal was to stop having migraines because my blood sugar was crashing. My goal was to not have to, like, if I don't eat at 11 o'clock on the dot, if I have to skip that, if I have to push that meal back to 12 o'clock, because I mean, I work and sometimes there's a meeting schedule from 11 to 12 and I have no choice. I have to, it's my job. And if I would not eat until 12, by 12 o'clock, my blood sugar was so out of whack I was gonna have a migraine for the rest of the day but that's the level have you noticed that you now don't feel like you have to eat as much either there was a day several weeks ago because I'm off every other Friday and like on a Friday I run around I do errands I do housework like I'm trying to get stuff done so that I don't spend my whole weekend on stuff. I don't want to just relax with the family. And about four o'clock in the

afternoon, like right about the time my wife and daughter were going to get home from school, I realized, I'm like, wow, I'm like really hungry. Why am I so hungry? I hadn't eaten breakfast or lunch. I got started working on tasks. I was running around doing a bunch of stuff like I wasn't really hungry in the morning and I just kind of pushed myself past that point where I normally would have stopped and be like oh I should probably eat lunch but my point is even though it's not great to skip

breakfast and lunch but stick with me on this hypoglycemics cannot skip meals your blood sugar will tank and you will like your symptoms will vary anywhere from, I feel like hell till I pass out. And I have passed out before from my blood sugar getting out of whack. Like it's a thing. So the fact that it was four o'clock in the afternoon and I wasn't like, yeah, I wasn't like licking the carpet passed out on the floor. I mean, I didn't feel

great. I had to go eat. And 15 minutes after eight, I felt fine. I wasn't hungry anymore. See, I hit that today is since getting pregnant and having my son, I've eaten way more sugar than I had in, you know, four or five years. And so I felt it today. I had a banana for breakfast. I always try to have a banana. And that was it. And by the time we ate supper, which I had texted you, we were home. Um, when you said to let you know, I was eating then, but I had to scarf down my food to get my sugar back up. But I've noticed when I eat the way I did before and I intermittent fast. So what it, what, what that means for me is I'll only have

one large meal, but I'll have little, you know, I can have a couple little snacks, high protein, high fat. And that's usually what I do throughout the day. I usually don't get as hungry. And then that one large meal in the evening is what I absolutely loved. So, yeah, but before we get before we get off the subject like that was that was my biggest that was my biggest worry about like Ozempic or any zero prescription weight loss remedies or, you know, my wife and I never discussed gastric bypass because we we know people very personally that have had gastric bypasses that have have have had lifelong consequences as a result of them. So like those were always off the table. that have have have had lifelong consequences as a result of them so like those were always off the table but for my wife and i like my my biggest worry like call what it is i'm a fairly large guy i'm like 5 11 right now i'm like 227 to 227 pounds down from 262 by the way so like hooray hooray for all that yeah you remember uh two years ago at Prepper Camp when you sniped that sideways picture of me and I looked like I was in my third trimester?

I was at 262. Really? I was 262 pounds. I was the heaviest I have ever been. And even eight months ago when we started this weight loss journey, I was still hovering around like 255. Like, I struggled with my weight. You look great, though. Like, the pictures of you and your wife that y'all have posted,

I can see a vast difference. Y'all look great. And the funny thing of it is like, I don't look that different except around my midsection. Like that's where all my weight was. My wife has lost weight like everywhere. Her face looks thinner. She just, it came off everywhere all at the same time.

Well, men typically carry theirs more in the midsection than women. Women typically will distribute their weight everywhere. And that's what's hard. Boobs, butt, and thighs. Yeah. And then I still have some baby face, baby fat going on in my face and the rest of me. So I'm just like. Yeah. But the thing that worried me about a lot of these weight loss remedies, these modern weight loss remedies, from my perspective, being a pretty large phys, you know, physically strong man is I've seen so many people lose so much muscle mass and that scares the hell out of me because like there are serious long-term

health effects of losing a large percentage of muscle mass. like i'm a man who i do front-end work on my truck i do my own brakes i can run a chainsaw i can haul stuff like there's so many tasks i do on a intermittent basis that require a lot of strength and i've never been in i've never been in a position where like I'm not strong enough to do something needs to be done I can muscle up and get it done unless I bust one of my joints which I can't help that that much that's just the joys of getting turning 40 but like when I see all these people that are on these weight loss drugs and I see the loss of muscle mass that worried me because it I again I'm a preparedness person I'm a prepper

I always think about in an emergency situation I might need more strength more physical activity more whatever in order to be able to like you know accomplish whatever has to be done and it worries me that I would do something to my body now in the first world times that would stop me from being able to take care of my family down the road. Well, and I get that because I'm to a point where I'm like, I need to stay on top of my vitamins because I can feel my joints aching and everything from inactivity. Okay, yeah, if we can. And we're back running after a very short intermission and the addition of a little baby. Yeah, so if you can hear him nursing, I'm sorry. It's a thing.

But yeah, I mean, like I was saying, just to kind of get us back on track, that's been my biggest worry about a lot of these weight loss remedies or programs or drugs or surgeries is that I see obvious signs of malnourishment and that worries the hell out of me I see loss of muscle mass which scares the hell out of me and the other thing I started noticing was that like you know I I think about the way our bodies are designed like our we're designed with a design we're designed with a certain like level of metabolism we're designed to be able to eat so much in a sitting. And I think to myself, if we go back in time to the time we were hunter-gatherers, we were designed to be able to eat as much as we needed to get by for a couple of days in an emergency situation because you had to chase your food down.

So the idea that I'm going to surgically modify my body in such a way that I have to have food regularly, like every four to six hours, or I can't survive, that worries the hell out of me. It's just, it's like a whole, it might sound like crunchy hippie health stuff, but you know, call it what it is. Your body's, your body's part of your preparedness. If you're not taking care of it, it ain't going to take care of you. If you take the work, the time and the work it needs to get your body to that hunter-gatherer stage, in a sense, then you set down the work for it. So I found when I changed my eating that I didn't have to eat as much and I didn't have to eat as frequently. My body could go longer on what I was eating. High fat, high protein, as long as I

was one of those that kept beef jerky. Now, not your name brand beef jerky because they use sugar, but I'd make my own beef jerky and I could snack on that and I'd be good for a while. But you're right. If you look at portioning of foods from the 30s to the 50s to now, our portions are gargantuous. I mean, we are a society that just overindulges to the point. We're almost like the stories about the Roman Empire in which they'd have parties in which they would gorge themselves, go throw up just so they could keep gorging themselves. I mean, unfortunately, we're not far from that. I mean, that's what society reminds me of today, except we have an excess of body weight versus throwing up and continuing to eat. But you're right. The fear of not being able to have your body where it needs to be, because a lot of these medications

people are taking, they don't realize the lasting effects that it has to the body. So certain medications you can take, but if you take them for an extended amount of time, it changes some of the chemical components of your body in which it becomes codependent, and you can't come off of them, and you can't just cold turkey off of others. Look at Adipex. A lot of people like to take Adipex, but Adipex will wire you up and make you very jittery like a stimulant. But they don't talk about the long-term issues it has because of some of the ingredients in it. Look at Omeprazole. A lot of people take it to reduce their stomach acids, right? Well, what they don't know is it's actually completely

stopping those acid producers completely. And over time, taking a medication that does that actually causes long-term health issues because if you're stopping your body from doing something it's supposed to do, then you're going to have issues. It can cause stomach cancer. It can cause other issues that people just don't consider digestive issues. And then there becomes a codependency of having to have it because then when you stop doing it, your body's not sure what to do.

So if your body's giving you acid reflux, then you're most likely eating something you shouldn't be. I mean, leaky gut is a serious condition that people don't consider. And leaky gut is caused from eating potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, bell peppers, you know, anything in the nightshade family is usually typically what causes leaky gut. Remember that conversation about turn the USDA food pyramid upside down? Uh-huh. What's at the bottom of the USDA food pyramid? Oh, it's carbohydrates. Oh, you mean.

What's directly above that? Most of the stuff you just mentioned yeah the the fruits that are the vegetables what's the root vegetables root vegetables are going to have starches and carbs in them and people don't they're like oh it's a vegetable so it's safe no when it comes down to it diabetics can't have um a lot of carb or starchy food. So bananas, potatoes, all of those are actually out. And people don't think about the fact when you break it down. So hence the breads, right? We don't need breads to live on. Breads are nice to have occasionally. I'm not a bread eater. Neither is Chris. We actually got where we eat 12 grain bread and it's actually the only bread both of us can tolerate because we can't taste the sugar in it and it actually doesn't mold as quick

because there's not as much sugar in it for mold to feed on and break down as quickly but that's the issue is our original way of living we didn't eat so many breads previously so the the carbs that we were eating out of root vegetables weren't as hard on us because we were controlling it. But now it's everybody likes pasta. Everybody likes bread. We don't eat a lot of pasta either. We just rice is our biggest carb that we eat in this house. Well, and to kind of tie this whole conversation together with a bow, I'm going to say something that is going to piss somebody out there, piss off somebody out there. And to a certain degree, I don't care.

Consider this tough love from the overly opinionated a-hole per my honorary title. But, like, I'm going to posit that most of our modern-day problems that don't have modern-day solutions, it's because the solution is the oldest one we ever had because it's the one that works almost 100% of the time and it's discipline. And that's a bitter pill for a lot of people to swallow. It's the reason that people spend out of control. People want to get butt hurt over everything. Yeah.

Well, but it's the reason why people spend money out of control and wind up in debt. It's the reason that people are drowning in credit card debt. It's the reason why people are money out of control and wind up in debt. It's the reason that people are drowning in credit card debt. It's the reason why people are, you know, drowning and being overweight. It's the reason why people are having so much trouble is because they have such a difficulty taking command of their lives and making rational decisions that have good long-term effects so that you can put your life on the course you want it to be. Now, I'm not saying that if a person is like type one diabetic insulin, you know, insulin dependent, that the problem is you're a fat ass and you eat like crap and, you know, it's your fault that

you're diabetic. I'm not saying that. But what I am saying is that if there are things you can do that are productive, that puts you on the path you want to be on, then we need to take command of ourselves and do that. I'm not saying that the person who like got laid off, it's their fault that they don't have any money and they're living hand to mouth and this and the other. But what I'm saying is that if you have a temporary loss of income, this would be a really good time to not go out and blow money at the bar and doing dumb stuff. Right. And that's that's how it is for us. It's managing. It's just realizing what you can and can't do. And it's not that you can't. It's just understanding what's important and what's not important. Yeah, absolutely. It is. It is truly a conversation about like, again, kind of what we started this conversation off with.

The three types of people, the people who recognize threats and realize they can do something about it. This is a whole conversation about realizing that there are things you can do to impact your situation. And when we start talking about, you know, your health, there are absolutely things you can do to improve your health. You can get your body weight under control. You can get, oh, my goodness, he's so adorable. The audio listeners have no idea what I'm talking about, but goodness gracious, he's precious. But there, there are absolutely things you can do to get your weight under control, your blood sugar, your blood pressure. There are absolutely things you can do to improve your muscle, your muscle mass and your muscle tone. There are absolutely things you can do to manage

seasonal allergies that don't involve big pharma. There are absolutely things you can do to improve your situation in life, but most of them are not fun. They don't involve sugar. They don't involve sitting down watching Netflix for eight hours a day. They don't involve sitting around being lazy. They don't involve sacrifice. They don't involve hard work. And that's the reason why most people don't embrace them. That's the reason things like Ozempic and belly bands and gastric bypass are so popular because it was sold to people as you don't have to work for it. It'll just make you whatever you want to be without any work. And see, I think like there's to show modern day solutions aren't always the best, even though we have the opportunity for modern day solutions for our

modern problems. They they're going to cause more problems in the long run. It just because they're quick and easy doesn't mean it's the right way. And it doesn't mean it's the best way either. I mean, I think that's the problem is modern problems wants instant gratification like everything else. And like you said, the best way to do it is the hard work, is the discipline, is the people who get the weight loss surgery or and then they lose all that weight too fast, or they start working out so hard versus just 30 minutes a day. You don't even have to work out for an hour or two, but they work out and then lose all that fat so fast. They have excessive skin hanging off that they have to have surgery to get that. And people who take the time to lose the weight slowly, the skin actually retracts with

them. So yes, they'll still have a little bit of excess skin, but it's not in the same amount as those who lose it so quick. It's just hanging off of them. Yeah. I mean, like I said, to me, this always comes back to the discussion about like, you know, it's not even about, it's not even about, I prioritize the old school solution over the modern one. It's that I want the best solution. I want the one with the fewest number of potential side effects. I want the one with the fewest number of question marks. And when it comes to the fewest number of question marks, nine times out of ten, the old school solution is going to be my priority.

Only because it's a solution that very often has existed for hundreds or thousands of years. If it wasn't a good solution, we would know about it by now. So that's why I always go back to this idea that like you said- If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Yeah. Now, show me a modern day solution that has none of those question marks involved and I might be a little more amenable to it.

Like the thing you said earlier about how aspirin in modern form is derived from a very old remedy. I'm not totally opposed to people taking OTC aspirin. Oh, I'm not either, but I like people to understand, and I like to know I have other options other than OTC because I'm not going to say I haven't taken OTC meds. I do. I mean, I'm a licensed pharmacy tech, but I like knowing the herbal equivalent. So then there's one less thing I have to worry about because if things do get tough, guess what? I know plenty of places I can grow the herbs,

I can obtain the herbs, and I can at least then make medicine for my family. I've also worked in a compounded pharmacy. So I understand what it takes to make certain things, certain cream, certain ointment. So I have, I don't want to say on my own, but I have the qualifications to be able to understand both natural and prescription because then i at least know what it takes to make to to make both by themselves no so i mean do we have anything else to chuck in here before i bugger off to dinner and you he's he's now chewing on the teether um no i mean i think i think we really covered a big part of it is understanding that there i think you know

a leaving part in it is to consider we know what we prep for right we we all have something we prep for but we we also have a way we live. Now, if we can keep in mind our everyday living, it's kind of like goes back to our independence and self-reliance is knowing what a secondary option is when we don't have those first world solutions. So how will you handle heat and cooling? How will you handle illness this winter? How will you handle, How will you handle illness this winter? How will you handle, like for us, canon, you know, preserving, being able to put away food and amines. Like these are all skill sets that the old timers just knew it as a way of living, but it is definitely a way that we can prep. So, I mean, being able to hone in on those skills, I think will make a big difference for us and knowing that not every modern problem has to have a modern solution. I mean, you know, being able to do for yourself is

really a start of stepping away from the societal norms that draws us all in. I mean, we're all connected to our phones. We're all connected to our computers. This is how we speak and talk to each other. But when it comes down to it, when we don't have this going on, how do we self-entertain? Do we sit around the fire or a candle as a family and read and chat? I mean, think about it. It's just something to consider is look at less modern ways for everything you do and then try implementing a few of those occasionally. Because when it comes down to it, you know, this little guy is not going to be a tablet addict if we can help it. It's making sure he understands, go outside and play with sticks and stones like we did, you know, just, just keep in mind, if we keep giving modern solutions to modern problems, we're only creating more

problems. Yeah. And I will, I will divert ever so slightly away from the whole idea of like modern solutions and modern problems, and I'll just say that the solution to the problem you're facing is almost always a difficult solution. Yes. And that's something that our – Nothing worth having is easy. Yeah, and that's something that our culture really kind of eschews is this idea of like, well, I want life to feel good. I want life to be fun. I don't like discomfort, and that's fine. You cannot like discomfort.

I don't like being uncomfortable. My worst hell, my worst nightmare is having to go through the apocalypse with no cigars and no coffee. And I know that sounds like the goofiest first world problem to have, but there is a why i have like freaking a five gallon bucket full of coffee beans in the garage you have that other people have xanax it works yeah i mean i don't know that coffee and cigars is less habit forming than xanax but you know it keeps you from committing homicide i crochet i spin yarn if i get stressed i i put myself to work in craft. Yeah, but I guess I just want to kind of leave the listeners with that is that, you know, sometimes the solution to your problem, it's not going to be an easy one. It's not going to be a modern one. It's not going to be a magic pill or a magic bean or a magic wand. It's going to involve hard freaking work and discomfort and sacrifice. And if you are a preparedness minded person, then the idea of sacrificing for today to have tomorrow should be baked into your consciousness already. But if

you're not preparedness minded, just understand that like this idea that there's going to be a period of time where I'm going to have to be uncomfortable, that just might have to be part of the solution. But I think we are made better and stronger by dealing with that temporary discomfort and the temporary hardship over the long run absolutely no on the head sorry he's he's biting the snot out of my throat oh good boy that's that's my that's my little man. He's Steven. Well, we'll go ahead and wrap this one up. This is going to go out to the patrons on the Matter of Facts podcast as your penance for us using my interface.

And I will pack this audio up for you to send out to your listeners on your podcast. Jordan, I wish you luck. I want to see you back on the horse. Yes. It has, I totally understand because I know more of your backstory than you're probably going to tell your listeners. I totally understand why you had to go on hiatus, but I want to see you back at it.

I'm ready to be back at it. And I've said it before on episodes I've done partially, but this is it. Like this is the ground running or you get to put a boot in my ass to tell me elsewise. You do have quite a few older brothers who are going to stick a boot up your butt and force you to do this. We'll bully you into it. That's fine. All right.

Well, Jordan, it's your show, so sign us out. You know what? You were kind enough to help me out. I don't even have like a. Not here. It's on my, on my speaker. It's on my speaker. So I appreciate everybody.

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