The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Prepper Camp 2025_ The Year of the Newcomer! James, Jfurg, Sara Hathaway & The Canning Diva

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

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BN family, what is up? We're going to get right into it tonight because we've got the crew, man. We got everybody here taught a class this year at PreparCamp. We got massive amounts of PreparCamp knowledge. We got, Jay Ferg, did you put PreparCamp in the background, by the way? Did. Excellent. Excellent.

I saw that when I logged in. The first one in here. We are ready to rumble now. Yeah, that's phenomenal. Perfect. Yeah, so the year of the newcomer, I'd say about 50% of the people under the big tent Saturday night raised their hand when Rick Austin asked, who's new? Who's the first year? And I don't remember if you guys do tell me, but I don't ever remember a year where that many hands went up.

It usually is much less. So I thought we'd kick off the night talking to someone who's. who's been on the network before you might be surprised to see her back but diane the canning divas with us and uh you were you were a newcomer yourself this year what did you think and you you did it right too down there on retail row you were in the tent behind the tent in your tent behind the tent sort of the way that that we do it down there so you got the real the real experience you've also got our respect too because you know that's the way that's the way we do it that's the way we live at prevar camp on the lake what did you think

Oh my gosh, I loved it. Are you kidding me? It was, I didn't really know what to expect going in other than, you know, talking with all of you and getting, you know, I've known Jane and Rick for a while now. But as a newcomer and as a speaker and having a booth, it was, it was awesome. I wish I could have cloned myself, though, so I could have gone to some of the cool classes and walked around a bit. But, I mean, waking up every morning right there on the lake was amazing. I didn't even mind the rain. I didn't get wet. And the people that attended, I mean, they filled my heart, man. They were there to learn. They were serious. They were taking notes.

It was awesome. And you stepped up, right? You did the, I've never had the pleasure of being asked by Rick to do two classes or to step in and fill in for a class. But you got the tap on the shoulder for that this year, right? I did. I did, unfortunately, one of our speakers, I think she threw her back out, but what was nice about what she was teaching, I know, dovetails right into what I do, you know, every day and what I teach and write about. So it was actually, it was, it worked out really well, especially for the attendees who were already excited about that class.

So I, of course, gave it a little diva spin. But, no, they left there with a lot of really good information that they could put to youth right away. Right on. And Jay Ferg, you were, you had the mansion this year. Right? Yeah. I had a dual booth. Yeah.

I had two booths. And I was told that they had to be separate booth. So it actually worked out great, though. Yeah. I'd say so. I'd say so. It was the, it was the, it was the two different booths by day and it was, you know, party town by night. It was great to have that spot.

Yeah. We really couldn't have done. done it the way we did it without the double tent set up because circling up oh we could have done it i guess in the middle of the grass but you had the lights you know it was all yeah it was one of those after the first night of fire that was fine and the second night i'm like i didn't want to sit around a fire i just wanted to chill undercover and feel comfortable oh it was nice it was nice and we had brad come by from five times august that was cool it was a good night i think that was my favorite night of the event i almost put that shirt on tonight say what

I almost put that shirt on. My five years, I bought it that shirt, and I put it away through. Oh, I bought it and wore it. My whole family was like, what does that mean? Yeah, yeah. There's no rock and roll. Yeah.

Yeah. And that one I would go pick my son up, everybody would like glowered at it. I think it was just big words, and they were kind of like, oh, I know that guy. He's probably got something to snooty on his shirt. Yeah.

You know what I mean? But yeah. Sarah, you, you, you uh you returned sunday night with your class here on pbn which was excellent timing by the way yeah that was excellent timing i've always wanted to do that i have so many people that ask me like um what you know where can i see your class when you're not teaching it how can i show this to somebody else right so holidays come in and you know everything's so crazy out there i just seeing more and more stories of things that really could have been avoided.

So I wanted to make sure that that was available to everybody. Your class is one of those ones where, like, no matter how much fun it is, like, you know, how much fun we're having at PreparCamp, how much, you know, whatever's going down. Like, when the kidnapping and human trafficking class starts, it's like. Right. It's such a serious, oh, it is. Your advice is phenomenal. I always say, like, the devil's working against me every time.

Something always happens whenever I do that class. Oh, really? My cool video that I made wouldn't play at Preper Camp. I didn't go this year. I did go then in 2023. Yeah. I sat through it in 2023, and it was like, well, I told you. When you go to your class,

If you have kids, you're immediately like, should I go home? It's all right? I think I need to go home and check on everyone. No. So last night, my recorder, I was so excited about doing the class. I forgot to set my recorder. So I'm like, oh, I tell James, you know. And then you just hook me up, man.

So we're going to have tons of great shared content for that whole class. Yeah, I figured you would like that. Yeah. But, you know, for the record, I didn't sit there and clip all those by hand or anything. I was like, he's probably got a cool program. Yeah. Well, this program does it. This one we're in, does it.

Okay. Yeah, I'll show you how to do it next time you do a show. That's how I do. I forgot to do. Yeah, I forget to do my clip. Oh, yeah, you always have good ones too, J. Ferg. You should definitely get in there. And Saturday show was awesome.

You were all in the different stuff Saturday. That was a great Phoenix returns on. Saturday. And I felt like it hit very true, though, especially right after camp and then the listening. I'm ready for my little microphone device to come in before I switch completely over. Your little, what is it coming in? So from Mark 37, they sell a device that you can put into the charging port of your phone. And I got the one without the audio jack on it. I can do it like a microphone like this. So what it does, it actually impede your phone to be able to record data. while it's not in use so it can't listen in when you have it sitting in the room just on your table.

That's right. That's right. Yeah. Because literally I mentioned once the night before a Friday night about a GLP one commercial that came up talking about it. Yeah, that was a crazy story. And then I had three emails waiting for me by 5 a.m. from 1130 right after I went to bed. And then 2 a.m. and 3 a.m. 2.m. 2 more emails before 5. a.m. And then I get another email with this morning. Jeez, O'P. I'm telling you. Yeah. Well, no, they're not listening. Yeah. Well, I think

one of the best features of Preper Camp this year, especially after Helene, right? Because Helene was so traumatic. And like, you knew Jesus was present, because there were only two trees on that whole

property came down. That is a crazy that is crazy yeah and i was talking to stacey and she told me all about how she was like right she got the tap yeah she definitely got to yeah she said something told her to move so she picked up and moved and it was the best thing she did but um the it was such a spiritual experience this year uh our trusted commander was baptized which was that that was something man and thank you all for coming. Yeah, Fletcher blew my mind come running by me. I said, what?

And then Brock is just not an impulse buyer at all. And I'm like, Brock, you got to go down. I want to get chin this cross, you know. It's just like the one I have on my wall. So we both have Changing Earth Studios, you know. And he's just not an impulse buyer. And so for him, he comes home and he's like, well, I don't know. This just spoke to me that I needed to give this to James this year.

so crazy. I was like, all right, well, whatever, you know, whatever you do you, buddy. And then to find out that you were being baptized. Yeah. And that's just, man, it was just so spiritually thick. I was, it was such a blessed experience. It was a great year. It was really a good year. It really was, man. It was the bounce back year that we needed, you know? It was definitely that bounce back year. And I hope, uh, I hope that I didn't get a chance to talk to a lot of people in terms of like, you know i talked a lot of new people about what they thought about the event and they seemed to be having a ball right so i get yeah i guess that's it i guess mission accomplished right we did it we we'll have dug back ellen be i think ellen will be in town did anybody get to any classes

i step in on a few i said yeah i know i didn't sit on anyone straight through no i was just getting hammered at my booth um i literally like a line half the time like people wanting to talk to me and stuff that's phenomenal you know i work remotely and i'm an author so i'm in this room specifically yeah so much my life i think the same here i had so many people in my booth i didn't have time to go to a class even if i had wanted to i was almost i was actually late for one of my own classes oh i remember yeah i forgot about that rick loves that i forgot all about that you weren't the only one though i didn't hear i did hear him i did hear him screaming about the uh uh um Amanda, I think it's Amanda Cartwright, right? She's phenomenal. But I did hear him screaming

over the loudspeaker about, like, where's Amanda? You haven't seen Amanda? Oh, and the Google eyes. So Rick told me before I laughed. Oh, yeah. The Google eyes and the moustaches and the balloons, because I thought he was going to kill me for doing the balloons at Saturday night again. But, you know, I got bad news for Rick, man. The balloons are here to stay. They're fun. Are you kidding me? Right. There was so much of a problem until somebody in the back row kept wanting to keep hitting them, even in the middle of Rick speaking. And I was like, I'm going to walk over and stab it if they don't stop. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

She's got to be big boys and girls with the balloons. That's all. That wouldn't be me if I didn't get in a little bit of trouble. So I had stuck them to Nicole's back. I went up and gave her a massage, right? Oh, that's right. You told me about that. So then she comes over and she's like, you got more of them Google eyes, you know?

I'm like, yeah, of course. So she stuck him on the night vision of her partner on his night vision glasses. Oh, yeah. And he brought him down in class and didn't know they were there. Oh, man. Awesome. Right? And so the class was like, and they're just busting up laugh.

He's like, what? And his class is called like, own the night. or something bad ass like that you know what i mean yeah he came over to her booth and it's like by the way thank you he goes i didn't even realize turned sideways and then i turned forward and then the laughter lost it on facebook she posted it in the recap he's like i know where those Google eyes from. Yeah. How could you guess?

They're all over my booth, your booths. Yeah. Yeah. So the Google eyes are here to stay as well. That's a good one. I remember the year the balloon started. We all thought Frank from New, from NYU was like, we were all worried. We were like, what's this guy doing getting balloons away to all the little kids? But that's great people.

Yeah. No, he's a great guy. Definitely. He's, yeah, he's something. He's an awesome. I look forward to talking to him. all the time. I don't even think I've ever seen him remotely upset, mad, anything other than frank. No. And go in a mile a minute. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you can just suck up so much information.

The only thing I have to commend, though, is your boys there, because at the little attendance ceremony, they had filled a balloon for Jericho and Jericho was passing it back and forth. And the gentleman, I guess, once he'd over, didn't really. realize it was Jericho's and hit it out of Jericho's way that Fletcher, Christian, refilled another balloon to give to the baby because the guy kept hitting the balloons out of Jericho's hands. Oh, like mad, but don't take it from the baby. Quit messing with the two-year-old. Right?

He's quiet and he's entertained. Like, do you not have children? Your sons are amazing. I really enjoyed speaking with Fletcher and talking about his culinary career and kind of what he's working on. I told him to stay in touch. Oh, I hope he stays in touch because I want to know, you know, what he's doing in class. And, of course, if I can give any tidbits, I'd love that.

Yeah, as a mom, I certainly don't mind. He's the chef, you know. Yeah. The only class I didn't finish, though, I'll be honest, was my pastries course. And he says he doesn't have that yet. But I'm excited to, I told him I'm going to learn from him. because that's the one class I couldn't yeah I couldn't fit it into my schedule it's five days a week for 7 a.m. to noon it's like oh oh that's a lot of pastry he's in culinary arts school also no he's just training under an executive she's interning right oh and they kept me I'm guessing that all went well yeah it's a super small venue that he works at so he's just hands on training on you know all the fancy sammons and roasts and oh my gosh his pot roasts is like to die for is just incredible

so i got to send him some stuff i get to send him until my cousin became a chef he right under yeah under an executive chef and you think that christian's friends would like like lamb ball these lamb puffs that he makes i'm like i mean i don't know they're 14 that's okay he's don't tell their minds and their palates, you know? Right, right, right. He's like, I can practice on his friends. I'm like, go for it, man. You can practice on me all day.

Yeah, the key at that age is just don't, not avoid too much information. Just put it on the table. It don't see lamb balls. Just say here, try this. Yeah, that's it. They're not like physically lamb balls. They're like, oh, I know. But a 13-year-old won't.

What's the name for that? You actually, they'd probably eat more if you told them it was lamb. If you did tell me, okay, go right. Oh, yeah, we're going to grab that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's great. It's a great, it's a great, um, profession. I'm telling you, it's really fun. It's just one of those things that once you settle down, it becomes like, ooh, I don't know if I'm going to work every night and every weekend. Right. You know what I mean, once they get a family, but at his age, I was able, I mean, I took a passion, but I also did the culinary school and I was able to, like, get really into the science and math, which worked for me. And I'm not. an executive chef, but just having that culinary knowledge and the sanitation side of things, bacterial, all of it. I mean, you can go anywhere. That's why I keep telling my kids, you know, you take that degree, but, you know, it opens up more doors. It's not just that one road, you know.

Oh, yeah. I've been trying to get him back to do some classes. Texas College is nice. Yeah. Well, I think I learned. I say that because he was in. school in California, where he was told, you know, unless you see it this way, you're not well. Yeah. So that was kind of rough. It is undoubtedly, though, one of those professions where you can get paid to learn it or you can pay to learn it. And you're going to learn more getting paid than you are paid because I did it both ways. I paid to learn it, which was like kind of a review because I was already cooking a lot.

And then I was working in Philly getting paid and learn. Learning probably so much more. right yeah way yeah under the pressure you know all that and that's what he's working it's a small venue it's like Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday he works so he works four tens

and then oh I miss that oh I love that yeah yeah time off I absolutely loved that four tens was the best what's four tens oh gosh yeah yeah I know he's like oh I work today I'm like dude I work every day and then work again And then we're down to me, suck it up, man.

Yeah, that was good living for sure. No doubt about it. No, I enjoyed meeting them and, oh, my God. Like, all the, honestly, everybody was wonderful. Getting a chance to talk to, well, here's how the talking went amongst us. Our boost would get slow. We'd get like two minutes. And then, Dave, I've enjoyed getting to talk to him.

It was like in these freak little, you know, and then, no, Jordan, we got to talk in between. Jordan, you were a blessing, I got to tell you, for a newbie. I was going to say, it could have gone really bad that the first person you met out of the entire group with me. No. You were amazing and I'm so thankful for you. Not only did she help me get set up. It was fun getting to know her right off the way, right off the bat, excuse me. I'm like, I love this chick.

Personality totally meshes. And you were so helpful. So I really, it wasn't odd for me being a new person. If anything, you made me feel so welcomed that, I mean. Oh, yeah, we take care of each other. But also it was one of those. She found out really hard, well, not really hard, really quickly that there's no telling me no. I'm going to help whether she liked it.

There's not telling you know about anything. That's why we get along so well. No, I'm very, I'm very bored. Yeah, you're right. It wasn't, hey, can I help you? It was, she's grabbing it going, hey, I'm going to help me help you. Yeah, I did. I said, okay, we're going to do this together.

It was awesome. No, I love being your neighbor, you know. I thought, yeah, I appreciate everything. Did you guys buy anything cool? I don't know if I bought anything this year or not. Brock got us magazine holders for our, for our, for our, for our books. Oh, that's cool. And, um, Ragnar.

I finally found a harness from them, people with the armor. That's big enough for Ragnar. So that was a big win. Nice. Yeah. We bought some rubber duckies. I bought some freeze-dried food, like the travel one from our neighbors across the street at, why do I not remember?

It was Patrick. Patrick and Casey. Riverside. Riverside. Yeah. I know, I'm looking at it. I think it's Rivers Bend. Rivers Bend. Oh, maybe. Yeah, Patrick Harris.

Well, they were great. You know, you're right. We all pitched in. It was, I loved it. I'm happy I brought my internet, too, because once everyone filled in, there's so many people, you know, able to, you know, share that a little bit so everyone's stuff would work. You know, their pay. You did definitely get the diet, Dave. Jones though you get the diet version we all got the diet he had the whole crew to attend to yeah if the kids weren't there yeah that's a whole another layer yeah Dave uncensored at hangout time is the entire show yeah oh man yeah he's

got to go back next year I didn't I didn't get all that yeah yeah it's a different thing he's um dossled down quite a bit when his family's yeah he does the right thing they priority one and then when he's but when he's set loose man he's like yeah yeah you go

oh yeah there's all 20 some of 30 of those years there they are oh and they usually he usually ends up sharing a tent with him yeah yeah we bunk together several years

oh that's awesome driving to and from I'm thankful for his wife though because they was a few mornings. I was my booth. I'm blessed that I had so many people come by. I even had followers travel five hours because they knew where it was going to be there. Like, I'm thankful. But there was a few points where he could see. I don't know what he could see, but he could see me wearing down. Like my blood sugar is falling. Next thing, you know,

you know, I get a little plate of something. God bless him. And she's in. That's the trick at Prepper Camp is fighting time. Yeah. Yeah. And he, over to the bathroom. Yeah. That's why I'm not a breakfast person. And I always cook breakfast every morning at camp because I know if I don't. Yeah, we're not going to. Maybe we'll get to eat, but I won't eat at lunch.

Yeah. No, no, no. The operitas, though, from the little flattened plantain things with the meat on top. Oh, yeah. Oh. We didn't splurge once for that. the uh from the the the truck of the hill operitas yeah operita you know i didn't i can't eat most of oh yeah yeah yeah fair me i was doing i was dealing with allergic topical reaction just from the

carnival is that what that was from vinton the oil yeah it happens that's why i can't burn soy candles in the house but it's like you know it's not a big deal i look over and i was like Oh, did you get some sun? You're like, I wish that's what this was. Yeah. Yeah, right down her chest. Yeah. Oh, I did get it.

I worked at a jamba juice, and we had a soy boost that we put in, and my friend was allergic to soy like that. Oh, no. Oh, we had to fill it. We had to fill it. She's just breaking out. I'm like, you did not have to fill it. We can find somebody else because she's just breaking out from the soy.

Yeah, the coffee man would have a long and lonely morning, if not for Jordan at Preparation. that's what I say because I wake up and not long before or sometimes I mean not long after or sometimes even before Jordan's up she's up at like 4 a.m. Oh yeah she's up she's up not this girl getting yelled at by people for being loud all that no yeah yeah oh gosh it's the vendor area if you can't be loud in that area then you're really in the wrong place oh yeah definitely definitely but I appreciate it it's nice We're wondering getting a cabin next year and bring my mama with me.

Oh, Stacy said the cabin was sweet. She said it was pretty cool. Well, we're going to get one of the big A-frame ones. Oh. Leave the trailer. Yeah, good luck. That's what I was going to stay. You've got to get that right now.

Yeah, I've been on a wait for since 2019. Whoa. Oh, got you. Okay. Yeah. I've been on a weekend. a waiting list since 2019 for one of those A-frame cats.

I thought he's going to party there as well, like the deck area and everything, right? Be a good hangout. You might get visitors I don't even get a cabin without any running water so that way because I've got now, I already have two people that would love to come back with me and help

me operate the booth so I can actually go to some classes and then I have family now that wants to come and make it like a big thing. I think my whole martial arts school uh that i'm training now for craft they were like oh that's so cool that sounds so awesome so i might try and just swing a huge caravan the texas caravan out there can get as many martial arts people as a can that would be awesome my instructor he's all about it yeah your radio's all

linked up right we're going to uh do a big event here um with him so because he's very much into it so uh yeah hopefully that would be so much fun that would be cool that would be cool So it's funny, my mother, my mother's not a prepper at all. And she's like, I want to go, but I have to have an RV. I'm like, well, when you get one, then we'll talk, but I'm not going on my way to get an RV. Well, that's what I was thinking for Mama, you know, to get a cabin because I don't know, our trailer's already so packed. I don't know. Oh, my God.

I don't know how y'all do it. I've been in here. Yeah. But it's like, wow. It's a little size tent, I mean, is really. Yeah. And Brock let us use the back. bathroom this year finally well you know what there is more room in my dual booth than there was in

your camper yeah yeah it's just a area of sleep i mean we're not getting you know you get to sleep in a bed one of the good things about prepper camp though i think is the sort of the moment when we all break away and go our separate ways too though you know what i mean like if we were all in one in the same tent or in the same cabin we'd probably start to be like all right show Yeah, exactly. Thanks, too. That's right. That was me, my first night, because I had taken it all in, and I, we sat around the bonfire.

And I look over at Sarah, and I'm like, I look around, I'm like, I don't have anything more to say. I've talked all day. Oh, yeah. I look over, I lean over to Sarah. I go, so I'm not trying to be rude. But it's okay if I sneak away? Get out of here. Yeah. And I mean, right to bed. I mean, I was nodding off in the chair. And here's the thing is none of us take it personal because we all understand when we're ready to call it, you don't have to explain yourself to anyone. You don't have to announce it. We respect the fact that when you're ready to go to bed. It's so much work. Just meet everybody. You know, I'm just getting right. You know, I'm like, you kid. You don't have to do the pleasantries. Your family. When you're done, just deuce.

I'm glad I did because then I had the energy for Saturday night which was so much fun I got to talk to people talking about coming to Preper Camp in the chat over there yeah if I will find

make it that'd be cool because he decided to go to a different event this year right didn't he go to or was that I think he went last weekend or something to one right? Yeah it was like a week after

Observer's been doing a lot in Toronto oh the one of Tennessee. Yeah. Yeah, Firewolf will be there. He'll make it happen. Yeah. You know, it's funny, if someone came up and asked me to inquire on the Fiber Festival up in Indiana in March. What's that? Man, I bet that would be. And then it had fallen apart. So I don't know if they're trying to get it going again or what, but I was like, well, it'd be nice to be able to go up to Michigan and visit family. So maybe I would, you know, make it a dual trip, right? Mm-hmm.

I have, I always have that fear of like massive letdown. You know what I mean? Traveling super far. I already in my head, I know that they're not. Yeah, I have like this like I decide. I'm not going to. It's an automatic. You know, nothing.

Yeah. It's an automatic like Sarah's not going to be there. Jordan is not going to be there. Ryan. Now the demon won't be there. That's where we're going. I'll be there. Right.

That's a good point. I guess we could. Let me get my. TV series going and I will be everywhere. That's a good point. I didn't think about that. Because there's so many people want me to teach them out in North Carolina and stuff. I can't wait to be able to track me.

Hello. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Go around and teach everybody. You just get spoiled at Prepper Camp. Yeah. I'm already planning a trip to go see Diane. Yes, I know. I'm like, when you're coming. I've already, I've got to be in Florida. Don't drive. Just fly. He's going to buy me an airline

ticket so I can just fly down. Oh, there you go. Oh, look at that, you wuss. I'm flying with driving. He just doesn't want me on the road by myself that long, especially in certain parts of Florida. I did it. If I can do it, you can do it.

But, you know, it's like, you know, it does cut into the visiting time, though, right? Because then you're at least you get more time with you. That's legit. Yeah. I like to fly. It's a good time. It's always fun to look.

I'm always sick. I'm two country bumpkin for flying because I get around all them people. I'm always sick. That makes me anxious to be in an airport because I feel like it's a flying petri dish. But in my head, in my head, I'm just like, oh, my God, this is when the world's going to go to shit. Like in my airport. I have always had ear problems like going up and down. It can be good or it can be really bad.

And it's funny, I will sit there in an airport and be like, man, this is really the worst place for a zombie apocalypse to break out. I don't believe in the whole zombie thing, but I'm like, this would be a bad moment. And you know any kind of pandemic starting there. Oh, that's a good point. Yeah, all that goes out the window. As soon as I see the airplane, I'm eight years old. As soon as I see it like blew up, I'm like, oh. And then I want to get in the window seat and just be out the window, the whole thing.

I'll just watch those. Oh, I love it. We went to the air show. The air show was here in Tyler. We went on Saturday. Did the Blue Hornets or something? No, there was, I don't know. The Angels came in on some, you know Christian.

Christian knew everything in the air. That boy blew my mind with his. I knew the security. I'm like, oh, I do martial arts with you. What up? I had no idea, Christian was. that versed in not just the uh airplanes but also the history yes and the history is smart like yeah that boy is dangerously smart yeah well plus he's also like super unassuming on top of it

right you know what i mean he is you watch that kid though he yeah exactly tell me he really wants to uh go into engineering go to texas a and m and that would be great yeah right yeah right So, James, I wanted to real quick show something I got from camp this year. So I went ahead and got one of the. Declaration of Independence? I got a little one in the Constitution. Oh, beautiful. Because it's like in the house that way.

Do you know how many presidents have been saved in their pocket? Huh? Do you know how many presidents have been saved by having that book in their pocket? Oh, I can imagine. The big medic booth on the corner, they're there every year. year. I can not think of their names right now, but they're my favorite. I got a dental kit from them during the hurricane. That was, I'm turning this joke.

It's the Peterson guide to fortune mushrooms. They go with my other mushrooms, the filled guide to mushrooms of North America. Because it's like, I have a mushroom book, but at the same time, I need something that's going to give me even more detail because we have so many mushrooms here. And I'm just like, in my head, I think of what Ryan said, that joke. when those red caps popped up in my yard just eat it and i'm like no i can't uh i can't a lot of people in my booth would finish up and go okay do you know where the mushroom booth is and i was like uh no no make it i think something happened no he was there he was there but he didn't have a

booth oh i didn't see richard no not richard it was uh i interviewed him short hair short dark hair Richard does the wild edibles, but this guy does the wild mushroom. Yeah, Richard didn't make it. I can't think of the guy's name. He's been working with Akeem. But he was great. He knows his stuff. Hakeem has had a lot going on with where he lives.

He's got his own school, and I think he's done another TV show. He's been working on, he's been working with Akeem on that new project out there. I didn't know that. Okay. Oh, that'd be good. Yeah. I guess you want to be harassing in. I'm going to text Hakeem. Okay, Mr. Big Shot.

Where are you at? Mr. Hollywood. Right? Yeah. Actually, if I'm not careful here in a second, I'll just text me. He'd be like, yo, so. Yep, yeah. Ain't heard a PBN shout out on your TV show in a while. I think you could use one of them.

Hakeem is hilarious, though. Good guy. I hate that I know it wasn't 10 years because his is one of the best classes. And it tickled me the first year he called himself the Black McGuiver. And then you find out his skill set. It's like, all right. You are. And he's a martial artist.

He's good. Yeah. Yeah. His interview, I did an interview with him when he released his book. Oh, me too. A ninja book. Oh, I didn't do the ninja book. I did the psychological warfare because I was working with Swenson.

What was really awesome, what I really loved about Hakeem more than anything was the fact that when he was little, he wanted to be a ninja. And he just decided to keep going. He became a ninja. I know. I just thought that was a cool. I don't think I ever met anybody in my whole life that was like, because everybody wanted to be a damn ninja, they were a little boy, you know? And probably. I've been to some tournaments to look like ninja. I was like, we're talking about you on PBN. But there you go. But to see him go for it the whole way, you know what I mean? It was such a cool thing. He's not one of those weirdos. He's not one of those weirdos. He's legit. Yeah. No, in his classes, usually, like, all the kids, even the adults love his classes. So, Diane, hopefully in the future, we can get him to come back to camp. Christian, I don't know, like, a little bit of straight.

I want to meet him. Yeah. I remember him and Christian were going to war over his walking sticks one year because he wanted one so bad. He kept going over and grabbing him. Yeah. It was funny. But, you know, that's like we've got a new family member to the prepper camp. Over, sure.

100%. Yeah, 100%. E.J. E.J. I've been at multiple events with him, and you can't hope but love his personality. He's just a male version of me, essentially, but taller. Like E.J.

I loved your freedom pickle. Yeah, he's fun. Yeah. I was talking to him today, actually. He's a great guy. He's nonstop. That dude is the most nonstop person I've ever met, I think. I was talking to him.

He had, like, just parked. his car he was unloading the car he's like i'll call you in an hour he calls me he's already gone from his house getting i'm i'm getting my oil change right now i'll talk to while that's getting done and then midway through the call he's like okay i'm done i'm hopping back in the car that i'm going to hawai yeah he's finally getting a little vacation good for him oh i wonder what that's like i don't know he's rocking and rolling though 24 7 I don't know. Everyone's like, oh,

Preper Camp's a vacation. It is, but it's also a working trip for us. No, I know. I need a vacation after Prepper Camp. My goodness. It took me days to feel human and normal. I lost my voice.

Yep. Talking, you know? Yeah. And it's still not 100% right. I got to get a massage from sleeping on the ground in the tent because Oh, yes. See, that's why I want to solve a tent. So next year, I'll be a bigger one because I see a bigger one because I saw.

I slept down the ground. One I have, it's super easy to put up, and I think it was like 130 on Amazon. I'm going to get one like yours, and I'm going to still keep my other one and use that to store stuff because everything stayed dry. I was dry. Everything was dry. But, yeah, I had this awesome blowout mattress, and the mattress was bigger than the tent. So I didn't get. I would be off than the easy up.

I looked up at my easy up, realized I've had it since I started. marketing my books in 2014 and you can see it's kind of like starry because there's like speckled holes in it yeah like no wonder it's raining inside that won't that won't cut it at prepper camp man i had some nights i was really worried uh-huh so i said was a workhorse man i can't believe that little crappy you know what though anybody who's going to go camping or any events get the corkscrew anchors. Those have been a lifesaver. Everything else people are, guess what? They're staying put. Those things do. Rock bottom this year, they worked like magic. That tent next was and you know what's funny. And we were good. I got mine on clearance from Walmart like a year and a half ago.

I've got four boxes of them at seven dollars a piece. Of course you do. Yeah. Oh, people price for anything. We're selling the ponchos. That, oh, my gosh, that was the best. Christopher doing it. Yeah, I kind of feel like I should get him to make him come in just so you all can hear it. He had so much. Keep that at Prepper Camp so that we can allure people. We can lure people to come.

You know what I mean? And just make sure you guys have pre-a-meet here. You need them anyway every year. Every year, it's going to rain. You're reindeer dry with a poncho. That's it. Yeah, that would be a great little tradition. You're a cure to wetness.

Remember, ponchos are your cure to wetness. Yeah. That was hilarious. I just want somebody to tell you and a poncho that gives like a nice bill over the top for people. We do make ponchos with bills. I want a big one. You need like a hard plastic. Yeah.

Like one of those COVID masks, the plastic gas? Yeah, but goes out kind of like a duck bill. stay less now now next year i'm going to have some build ones yeah we should are like makeshift a baseball hat of some type with a yeah i will say for as wet as it was um during my class i could get down on the ground every time and show people like when you're on your back you know what it was weird the water didn't stay it didn't stay around it was and it tried out really pretty quick it sucked then the meat bees

weren't there, the little hornets. Oh, the yellow jackets? Yeah. You guys had a blow with them, I heard. Chris said he had a hell of a time with the old yellow jackets. He now's an epipen. Because he's now allergic to yellow jackets.

It was like a biblical plague during the whole. I'm not even kidding. Well, what it was is actually the whole region had a huge issue and warning for the yellow jackets because of the flooding. It displays all of their homes.

So this entire region was dealing with swarms of yellow jackets because every single one was flooded. As if anything couldn't be worse for those poor people. Right. On top of it all. Yeah. Yeah. On top of it all. Now you got you swarming yellow jackets everywhere.

Yeah. It was that was the last straw for me. Because like I've been attacked. I was sung like 36 times with one time. You know, no. Dave Jones enclosed can't. was a godsend because it kept her son from getting stung. He got stung once last year.

And the lemonade vendor? Oh, my God. She was surrounded. I would have packed up. Oh, yeah. They weren't there this year. I know. They didn't make it.

Yeah. They literally had they made that of lemonade. Oh, no. You could see it. And they were just swarmed. I'm not kidding it was like biblical it was really bad in the cups it was yeah it was you couldn't open a soda and like drink it to the inside I was like that's it that's it we're going home

I'm done my cups yeah that's why one of my cups always has a slide lid so I don't never have to worry about getting an insect into my drink that's a good idea that's why I drink black coffee all day and night Nothing's going in there. Without you, I would have never survived. And I actually bought some. I got that F5 coming.

I seen. I got a talk to you about that. I got a talk to. Well, you want to why how it happened? I mean, yeah, we drank it,

but I didn't realize just how amazing it was until I'm heading home Monday morning after I'm getting out of the hotel. I get everything situated. I got their coffee. Oh, yeah.

Well, that's not even fair. After having that amazing. Patriot coffee, I mean, the disaster coffee, that whole weekend. Yeah. I immediately reached out to James and I was like, dude, I know, I need to buy your coffee. We treat it like gold. It sits in our, it's for the special.

Yeah, yeah, I appreciate it. Oh, we're going to have some disaster copy. Yeah, we're going to like, what's the big one? What's the one that's like the supercharged one? Well, pandemic is pretty strong. Yeah, that's pretty strong. Civil unrest. Civil unrest is a whole other level. Civil unrest will give you a heart attack. Yeah, that was powerful. We're like, I like a dark humor.

Which one, J. Ferr? Dark humor was my favorite when I could drink it. Oh, yeah, dark. The French roast is phenomenal. Did you try the ladies tea, Jafir? Was that any good? It looked like it would really kick you back into any shape. You know what I mean? They had all kinds of good herbs in and stuff. Well, oh, no, I actually haven't. I didn't have it. I didn't have it. a tea bowl or it would have it just been loose tea in my entire drink. So I have it and I actually had planned on, I have it sitting on the counter

so in the morning I didn't have some. You'd have had a soup. Frick or your oregano. Yeah. Yeah, something like that. Who needs bugs and you can have lettuce. There you go. There you go. Yeah, that's

a good call. Tea balls. Oh, my babies started laying. The day I got Just yesterday The baby chicks I kept telling my mom

It's going to be December It's going to be December It's going to be December And I swear the Lord was like Just to prove me wrong And let her win a battle Boom there's an egg out there Oh that's the best feeling

Yes That is the best feeling And they were like barely laying ever I'm like you're going in the stew pot man That's it Yeah My flock just grew. I came back.

I had suspected one of my chickens was a roo, suspected it. I hadn't heard any crowing. Literally the day after I get back, I hear at 4 o'clock in the morning, the crow. And I'm just like, oh, yep, that's a rooster. Okay. All right. Good enough. But he only crows around 4 and 5 o'clock in the morning.

You don't hear him outside of that. So I can deal with that. Then we were blessed by being. given more chickens. So I now have two rues and 22 chickens, which is fine. I'm used to having two rues and 25 hens. So it's perfect. But I'm thrilled, but now I'm having to rebuild the coop to close it in for the winter and retrain them all to go in because my chickens are stupid. The chickens that were given to me know to go in at night. So I'm just like, I'll pull up this pretty corn. There's a chicken roosting right there in front of the camera. And I'm just like, that's not

where you're supposed to sleep. It's raining. Get inside. We built them the Taj Mahal chicken soup. It's beautiful inside a dog kennel. And then it has a whole wall and a whole wall of boxes. It's beautiful. The little slugs of ditches decide they're going to jump up on the top of the dog kennel

to sleep along the top rat, you know, Ed? And then fly out. So we put a roof on because we don't like there's dogs around here and there's hawks and stuff. Oh, yeah. And they still sleep on. top of it. They still go up on top of it. And then they're crapping on top of it. And then they're crapping on top. I had that for my containment coop for the small ones as we transition them to the rest of them. Finally, so we got everything out except for that pin. We knocked it over and

its side. And I said, baby, it's going to have to come out. I check the security camera. I watch as a chicken is trying to stay up on there and falls off because it's on its side. And I'm just like, yeah, they're like, it's a wondering I have as many. It's like that wide, you know, everybody's squeeze it. I'm like, we literally built you the Taj Mahal of all chicken coops. It's so beautiful, you know, but no, they got to.

Yeah. I figure I'll have at least three freeze to death this winter just because I'm going to have to put him in at night, but I burnt it down. I just, I locked mine in for not to, overnight. I made him stay in a few hours in the morning. Did that two nights in row. They never No problem. Now it was a habit.

You just have to train them. Yeah. I went as far as to put in the feed trough in their pin area and feeding them in their pen so then in the evening they only get their food in the evening from their from their coop. That could help. If they don't have anywhere to

forage, that could help. Yeah. Well, we've got a big out. light in there because they're they won't eat if it's dark they get up well that's why you do yeah yeah yeah if i can get them to start going in at dusk they'll all eat because they want food but it's like if i can train them to go into the coop then i can change that around yeah it didn't take long i think after the second attempt they were all doing it and i didn't have to lock them in anymore and i could keep it open they stayed in but i had the dogs too to keep them safe No, no. See, I'm going to have to close mine in because it's an open face.

And so I have to close it in just to keep the cold out because the winter is secure. It's already getting super cold in there late at night and early in the morning. Yeah, and that's it's going to be a best. You don't know Michigan cold. Yeah, thank you. Right. Negative 12. The three days in a row.

The negative 30 there, but it does get down into the negatives here. Yeah. Now you know why I'm in Florida, though. Yeah, well, I put a heat lamp in the coop. Yeah, every year. I do it every year. We don't. You don't have to.

Sometimes to make sure it stays light for enough like it's summertime. Oh, that's a good idea. There so that it, I run it so that it stays lighter and they'll keep their egg production up. Yeah, so that's, I actually let my intentionally leave a heat lamp and a light out specifically so they have a few months of rest before they start. laying like crazy again just so it's an ease on their body. I'm like, work it, chicken. It's like, I want eggs. Like, you only got one purpose in this world.

Just me. I have chickens. No, I'm with Jordan. I would give them non-stop. But, yeah, yeah, it's, they, there's a natural progression of them laying fewer eggs than laying a ton of them. I got one who's like, I call her Karen. She's always like, she's in charge of everything.

making sure everybody's in line. She's got her HOA all organized. Oh, there's always at least one of those for sure. She's like, she's trying to get on my shoulder. She's trying to jump on my back whenever I'm doing stuff. My mom's like, well, why don't you just pick her up and hold her, you know? And like, like, pet her. I'm like, I turn around to spray her ass with the hose.

Get the hell out of here, Karen. That's, that's like my head, my two headhins are my oldest ones. And they're both named Lucy. And that's because they look so identical. Whichever one's getting in the way. Damn it, Lucy, move. Right. Yeah.

I'm like, Karen, gosh, what are you doing? We don't name them anymore. They get killed too often. I don't name them. I just call them if they get in my way. They're just named Lucy. It's a name I can say instead of, I don't know. Chicken.

Yeah. Well, Texas, the red ants, man. They've been a big problem. Oh, fire ants, girl. Yeah, the fire. ants so so i lived in texas as a child and i've been swarmed by the fire ants as an as a young child there you literally have to like go to task against water hose them down yeah and so i did a paver blocks on the whole bottom on my chicken coop and that way that way i can tell where the ants are

they can't dig up next right next to their food or anything they have to travel across so i diatomace earth it because i've had chickens straight taken out by the fire ants you had chickens killed by fire ants yeah and even though that was wonderful yeah it was good but they just warned it and then they stung the hell out of it till what i found in the morning right so like i hated that and the little field mice too they'll go underneath because it's all sandy and they'll pop up right by the chicken feeder so that the chickens can't get them but they can get to all the food so that now we have to go across the concrete and the chickens are all like, yeah. They're like, come on.

Mama gave us a snack. Yeah. Have you ran into the issue with the velvet ants? Like, we have a lot of velvet ants here. And those are, they're actually for those of you who don't know what they are. They're also called cow killers. They are red, fuzzy, giant velvet ants, but they're not actually ants. They are wingless wasp.

And they, if you ever get stuck, tongue by them, it feels like a red, hot poker being jabbed into your skin and it's atrocious, but I've seen them before. There's another reason why. Christopher and I have had the pleasure of having in this region.

Oh, no. Asian needle ants. Asian needle ants. What in the where you guys live in? I know. I've already taken over 15 states. Texas, the entire south, several northern states. They're

invasive. But here's the thing about Asian needle ants. They don't make typical nest or homes like normal ants. They just rest on brush and wood. They don't actually create colonies. Like a colony? What do they look like? They don't. They're just

solo little monsters. They still mate and have groups, but they don't colonize in the same way as a traditional fire ant or piss ant or any of the other ant we used to. When we had our pool up, we'd get like, floating pads of ants on there. Oh, the fire ants. Fire ants will do that and notoriously they'll

float. But the Asian needle ant when you get stung, it'll feel like a hard. It looks just like regular man. They're skinnier. They're a little narrower. But they actually, when they sting, it's not a consistent sting. It'll ease up for an hour. And then out of nowhere, you'll feel that hard, intense sting again for hours afterwards. And it took us a while to finally figure out we were getting stung by Asian needle ants because I'd get stung once. It'd get trapped under my pant leg while butcher in an animal. And then hours later throughout the day, I'd continue to feel stinging. And so just, yeah. And these are an evasive species that came over with travel and everything else, but they do not nest like regular ants. So just be on the lookout because they are

covered across the states a lot more than you realize. Well, we're constantly at battle against the ants anyway. Right. Well, and you got brown. we've got brown widows that wasn't something that was native to america until a few years ago's they slowly migrated up this far north they're even further past us they're up and towards baltimore asian needle ants you know i know i had you look about i was like i saw i'm not making it up no you guys seen those hammerhead worms it's saying how bad it is yes you and you can't cut them in half because then they'll just multiply you actually have to like completely eradicate him. It's probably where I'd keep some myriatic acid on hand.

We didn't see those until about two years ago. We pulled it, lifted up the, like the kitty pool. And there's this crazy worm with, yeah, and they like burn you, right? Or something like that. Yeah. They have a toxic, they have a toxic excretion on them. Sorry, I'm fascinated by weird. China. Wow. All the gift from China. Ha, ha, the gist. They just keep buying help. Man, the weather's been crazy over there, though. They've been having, like, crazy locust swarms and, like, mass.

That's not weather? Yeah, massive flooding. Yeah, the hail, it literally has been kind of biblical. I was just going to say, that sounds biblical. Right. Yeah. And when the weather, like, the cloud patterns and stuff. Yes.

There was. There was. I'm not even, it was raining red. There was. It was raining red in a region. In Hong Kong. It was.

Communist rain. Red. I was like, now's your downpour. Soylent green is people. There you go. There you go. They'd be the ones to do it too over there.

But they're in population decline, so they say. So we'll see. Yeah, that's how they say. But they are actually because it. It has now gotten to a point where companies are now mandating that their staff members be married and have a child within two years. Married in a year, a child within two years, or they will be terminated from the law. The things we take advantage of in America. First your mandate is not have but one.

Yeah. Yeah. All the girls. They kill all married and have babies. Yeah. They didn't want girls because, God for me, girls are needed. For offspring. Yeah, that was a great.

Because culturally, your daughter goes and lives with her husband and their family takes care of his family. And in the Chinese culture, the son takes care of his family and his wife moves in to help take care of them. Because they all live in the same household. So people wanted boys, so they had someone to take care of them in their old age. They weren't worried about production. They were worried about who was going to take care of them financially. Yeah. Crazy talk.

So which a lot of our generation that's over there are now refusing to take care of the older generations because they said it is not their responsibility anymore. So now there's a financial decline on that end because the elderly don't have anyone to tend to them. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's inevitable. You stop making babies.

That's how it works, you know? Hey. Yeah. Well, we could see something like here. And I'm over here with baby fever, like maybe just one. more yeah jay ferg you've done your part for sure we appreciate it heard that like all weekend you were so funny girl i'm not kidding we've talked about it so we're giving it till january i'm going to be approaching 40 before too long so it's like if we're still in agreement that we want another one by

january that's when we'll start trying again because i'll be 37 in february and it's like if we aren't it's just a phase well when it's done it's done that's for sure right yeah it is I'm too old I'm like more kids I'll wait for my grandkids I'll do yeah that's what I'm saying yeah it is hard mine no rush on that though either mine just dropped that we just we just ended our single digit children you know what I mean well not officially till the 13th but on the 13th we're out of single digits and that's one of those like so my older three are all double double digits. And then I have a two-year-old. And I'm just like, oh, and then I'm like, oh, wait, this, it's, it really is a balance of trying to figure out how I want to navigate it. I get it. I get it. Because if we start in January, I may be very, very pregnant by Perper camp next year. Oh, by Pepper Camp. Yeah, you would. You must have been, though, right? No, I've never been pregnant at Preper Camp. Really? Never. Because we got pregnant in November and I had him in August.

that's right and you brought him yeah yeah he was a month old he was a month old for his first prepper camp so he's been there every year so excited because next year he's going to be talking and he's like he's i mean he is a little but now like more so he's going to be like i can't wait that's like my little cousin yeah he does talk but then he'll stop talking he's at that phase where he's like eh but then after we left camp the boy's been jibburning up a storm and now he'll stop again i'm like okay we need to just send christian over here for a time and let those two hang out because he'll have him like speak yeah they all talk don't worry they all start talking and then they never stop talking why are you talking stop talking do we know i mean are you

surprised well do we find out when the dates are for the next it's always the last It's always the last weekend. Standard. All right. Standard. All right. They already got people asking me. They were bummed.

They couldn't go. They want to go. Always the last week of. Orchard Lake Campground, they close. And so that is their last weekend of operation as PreperCamp. Gotcha. But they're closed. We can have access to it.

Right. They're closed to the public. So that's why it's always, always, always the last week in September. outfail wherever that fall. Pepper camp tickets go on sale Black Friday. Yeah. And get them, folks.

45 bucks or something. The sooner you buy your ticket, not only is it the cheapest, but you can get your campground spot earlier because you need your to be able to get the campground spot. Unless you're supposed. Yeah, you have to have proof

to be able to reserve. If you spend the money early, then you're stuck. And you have to come and you don't have to say you don't have to say in March like oh I'm thinking about it no buy the ticket and then you're going to be committed you know and then you'll see everybody at my martial art school well yeah I'm going to write that down because I've already gotten a lot of people asking I don't want anyone to miss out I want to try and get an a frame or some cabin of some type uh so the cabin doesn't have any water I and that's okay because there's the

pavilions. I'm, well, heck, I stayed in a tent, you know. Yeah, you can handle that. That's like stepping it up, right? But I would like to make it a vacation. So whether I come in a few days early and enjoy or I stay a few days later, I don't know how to work that out yet. We do both. Yeah. We say Sunday night over and that's like our dull chill, we can finally relax. There was one year. We usually reserve our campsite from like Wednesday to Monday or Thursday to Monday if we reserve a campsite, just so we have. have extra time. And some people stay in just a little bit longer. I want to do that too because the turn and burn was exhausting. So I'd rather just enjoy the beauty because that campground

orchard like it's gorgeous. Oh, yeah. There's a lot I didn't even get to fully see or do. So I figure if I stayed on the back end, that could be the decompressing time before making the 11 hour drive home, you know. We got a 15 drive. 15. hour drive home so we stay Sunday night sleep in a little bit on one day and then take yeah yeah we did great time on the way home we left at like eight there and we got home at like one so I mean it was really good we at the Alabama Slamma because usually when you're going through Alabama there's like an accident or something we always got slowed down right we didn't have the Alabama Slamma it was beautiful

Yeah, it was smooth saying. Driving to the butt crack at the south is rough. Yeah. That's what Alabama is. Yeah, that's what Alabama is called. Sorry, anyone who's from Alabama. We didn't say it was a dirty butt crack. Just a crack.

Yeah. Just a crack in the butt. That's fine. All right, guys, well, I haven't eaten dinner yet. So I'm going to take off. I just, like I said, just got done training, and I just wanted to, with my new training schedule, I can actually be available for you on Monday night. So I just wanted to be.

We're happy about that. Yeah, we got to get back to some Monday night podcast, and they're always fun. Yeah, I'm starving, Marvin. I've been working all day, so. I heard that. I'm going to know. Yeah. Thank you, joining us.

Sarah. We'll talk to you guys. We'll talk to you guys later. I'm not far behind. Yeah, we can wrap it up. Go ahead. Yeah, I didn't even mention I got Sarah's extra books sitting in my series down there, and I have them in order at 1.1.5. Oh, nice.

Nice. And then I've got my kitchen books in the kitchen, except for one. I grabbed one real quick, which, you know, I wonder who wrote that. Thank you. I'm excited for you to dive in and get some canning done. Yeah. I am. Getting a new canner is a big one, too.

Oh, yeah. That's the final. That's the final Rubicon for you, Diane. You have to voice a character on the Changing Earth audio drama. Oh, yeah. And then you really, that's really the point of no return for the TVN family. Let's all that. I don't even know what that is. Oh, we'll have to get you paired up with Sarah to explain it. Yeah. I'll send you a link to it. Yeah. Okay. I'm down. Let's do it. Basically, all of her books, she's transcribed into an audio drama, and we all voice the characters. Oh, funny.

Like, everybody you met at Prepper Camp is a character or several. We owe her lines. Do we? Yeah. Yeah. I know I do. I always do. I know I do, too.

Yeah, I got to get it. You guys, that's so cool. It is really fun. I'll send you a link to them because they're awesome. Like, if you're ever like, you need something to listen to in the background, you don't want to do podcast. You want to do something different. It's, and it'll be extra fun for you because you'll be like, oh, that's right. Well, you won't know Ryan.

I'll let you try to figure out who Ryan. I'll try and figure out. Yeah. How is he doing? He wasn't feeling too hot, was he? Jordan and I wanted to get a hammered. He just got hammered. That's all that was.

That's what I said. He thought he got sick. Well, that's what we all said, but I was like, well, you know, your immune system does dip when you drink. And so maybe he did. Well, and he flew in. And it can be a lot. It can be a lot.

It is a lot. It's definitely. It's awesome. Yeah, I think he got dehydrated I always cried because I didn't get to hug him. He's like, he's like, he's like, I'm sick. I'm like, it's worth the risk. Yeah, I mean, it's not like you're going to, you know, you're not frat.

That's okay. Jordan and I were standing there. We just hugged each other. Said goodbye, Ryan. Right. E.J. gave us a hug in place. You ran up. Yeah.

I enjoy it. You know, who else didn't get mentioned? E.J. was great. Um, pork chop. Yeah. I'm amazing. He sounds so great. Yeah.

Oh, I mean, yeah. That cast of characters over there is, well, that's just what they are. They're cast in character. It was port top, James, James, who taught the bookroom class. And then his sidekick Eric. Yeah. Eric, yeah. I like James, I think the best.

He's, he's fun, man. He's like plucked out of another era. You know what I mean? And I love. I love the fact that he looks like he looks like he could live five miles down the road, but he actually lives in Ohio or Iowa or something like that, you know. Ohio. He lives in Ohio.

Yeah. He lives in Ohio in a very almost urban area. No way, really? That's even better. That adds a whole other layer to that. I mean, I see him out in the wooded, you know, like you're saying out. Yeah. No?

He could be like, I live in those woods. You know, he was in the Marine Corps. So usually, yeah, but it's usually also very much a common appearance for anyone who is prior service, especially for men, especially for the Marine Corps, because it was so stringent upon your parents that I'm not surprised. Big, oh, beard, you know. Yeah, he was in the Marine Corps. Yeah. Yeah, but it's, it's more than that. It's the vibe, yeah, anybody can grow out of beard and build a log cabin and get a deer and.

like jet pine savage you know yeah a run moonshine in 1940 that's something i have to say is oh i bought plenty of the soap the beeswax um i know it was great so that and that's just it for anyone who's listening who hasn't made it to prepper camp there are tons of vendors the people we are talking about are just a few in the grand scheme of how many people are there the mammoth machine that, you know, I'm talking about the off-road mammoth trekking machine that was used in Alaska and down here. I mean, there are so many things that you are missing out on the classes. So, yes, you may not be up to speed for a butcher in or wild foraging, but there are other classes like cheese making, wine making, cannon, fiber, like, or simple self-defense, understanding the common rules and all that. that was a great class. You know, just lots of different things on so many levels and scopes that

it's literally something for everybody. I mean, I even still, my class was actually very well done all three days that I had two of the same girls in my class every three days that they have been text, emailing me pretty much on the daily. So I'm in constant communication with these two young girls who are enthusiastic about fiber and they're not much much younger than my youngest daughter who's 10 so it's it's kind of thrown and then I'm learning how to write my name and emojis I'm just like uh they're like no no it's got to be like this so emoji comms I didn't know that's her homesteading and survival there was a thing I'm glad you brought up that mammoth truck because I got the the stage I was on had it kind of parked off to

the side there over in the Bay Area. So I was like mesmerized. I'd never had time, unfortunately, to go up and see it. But from the, I mean, it was the coolest looking thing. And then, yeah, you're right. So you should see it up close. He actually, the outfit it one he has for when he goes into the Alaskan wilderness is actually completely lined with wool.

And so that, yeah. I'm a huge fiber person. So we'll talk about the benefits of it that. Christopher goes, can we have one? I'm like, yeah, we can have one. Nice. In my dreams. I would love that. Or a boondocking type camper or anything like that. It's the ultimate glampin.

Yeah, oh, definitely. It's got the pool away kitchen and all that kind of stuff. It's got the built-in shower. It's the ultimate glampin. Like at that point, it's like, yeah, babe, let's do it. Yeah. I want to like float it out in the middle of a body of water. and sleep in it. Just to see. Yeah. Oh, you can have floating.

You just seg way into perfect thing. The armor. I was so disappointed that I brought my entire rig to change out my plates. I have the still plates. So mine are heavy. And he has waterproof plates that are level threes. And they float. He actually has it.

What is it when he owns the copyright? What would it not? it not he owns the patent to it and it it literally is body armor that floats and they make it in all various sizes so i will have to get a whole new rig to be able to wear the plates but i it is worth it like honestly as much as i was willing to spin right there if i had had had a rig that fit it i would have i would have walked away with an entire rig set up i'm so bummed i couldn't go see that guy right he was right across from us well right across from sarah and james oh down further okay yes um and they have amazing set up amazing gear at ys t i believe is what they're called yeah what are they called ys p yanky yankee sierra tango is the initial they did pretty good they had a good stream of people there and then we had our one of our guys across fair day containers we which we all that was a brain one home, which I can't wait to see you climb into one.

I am going to actually. I'm going to try to record it from the inside. It is a great idea. I mean, it'll be 100%. Does it work or does it not work? You'll be able to see it just like that. But those guys were so knowledgeable. They were so kind.

And I was really disappointed. I mean, like people need to take a look at what they have. Oh, yeah. I did have armor shirts. Wow. Yeah, they did have armor shirts. And they even, for the YST, they made carrying rigs small enough for children. So that was when, if they had had actually one of the carriers there, I probably would have outfitted Jericho. Because unfortunately, we live in a society and a gerrit, you know, in a culture where everyone needs some sort of protection.

And my biggest fear, and I'm going to just tell you all right now, I'm not a strong swimmer. So I am terrified of getting caught. like i don't know how i passed the swim call for marine corps boot camp i should have been an iron duck i can't float i can tread water and so i'm terrified especially when they sent us into the water with our gear of just sinking and drowning because i've nearly drowned before as a child so it's one of those things that doesn't leave it's it is it is and i'm again i'm not a strong swimmer so my big thing was trying to make sure i have something especially with where we live water is bit of a thing it's there even in myrtle beach you're basically on an island now in the mountains

i have rivers around me i'd like to have some sort of alternate protection because having a flotation device with your gear separately is not going to work no but having gear that can float could make a huge difference oh definitely yeah that stuff man you you ain't swimming with steel plates on i know that much that would be one hell of a thing to take on bloop yeah Basically, basically. Yeah, I think for the fairly containers, guys, they just need somebody. What we probably need Rick to do to help them, and we can help them too, is to give the prepper campers a heads up. Because if you pull up in anything but a truck with a.

Yeah, because Willow, you can't take it with you. That was their problem. Yeah, I think that was their biggest problem. Yeah, but she didn't have room in her SUV, but she's already planning on ordering one. Yeah, but you save so much money if you get them at PrevarCamp. I mean, you save hundreds of dollars on shipping. Yeah, it's so much cheaper to do it on person than online. But at the same time, don't hold off on getting something that could make a huge difference.

Because they have the smaller ones that would work perfect if you're not looking at a bunch of gear. Oh, yeah. And the smaller ones are, they're huge. I mean, in terms of any other type of Faraday protection that you're going to have. So essentially they're like gang boxes for any of my construction workers who are familiar. I was construction. The small gang box is about what, two and a half, three feet wide, four feet maybe, three feet. And then you've got them all the way up to, I think they had a 10 foot.

They got her five feet total. Well, I think they did have a six foot. I think they had one bigger than that. Yeah. Oh, did they have one even bigger than six feet? Yeah. That's a big boy. Yeah, they had some big ones.

And then of course, you know, if you were. really want to get crazy they have 10 foot shipping containers 20 yeah 40 thing about it you know is putting your extra car parts putting it in there putting um an extra copy of your important documents uh even if it's on a jump drive you know what for us especially in this area when helene hit we've looked at god forbid if another storm like that hits or power goes out having a backup power source having backup like tablets and an access way of being able to watch films or having films all on data put in there too so then it's out of the weather and it's safe as well yeah well you guys could even throw the star link in there if you don't use it regularly you know

unfortunately i have to use it but if anyone knows a part-time remote job me i need to go part-time stuff there's just too much on a homestead with a toddler and a full-time job you're planning on getting pregnant again that's why i was right definitely part of it. I know. I'm a glutton of punishment, but I love my children. Yeah, of course. It's so fun.

Little ones are so much fun. I just don't. I just don't always like them. But that's okay. That's why you come down to me and take a nice little girl time break and just chill, then recharge, and then you're like, I can do this. I'm actually looking forward to going down there and getting some warm weather during the cold months. Absolutely. Absolutely. I even thought how fun would it be if we wanted to do, I don't care. I've got enough space, have everybody, you know, in the group come down and even do the podcast.

Yeah. Oh, a little, a little P.A. A little winter reunion. Yeah. Florida visit. Yeah, Florida visit, get through the crappy weather. Just throwing it out there. Midwinter. Yeah, we could make that happen, I think. I don't know if the pathway is dry. Yeah, they're like, I'm already hot. in Texas I don't need to go and Dave Jones might wing it and head down there for a weekend That would be cool Well listen you guys

I see Ryan I just Yeah Ryan might fly yeah Ryan might Because he's up really far north He does he has rough winners You know you know who I wish you could have met this year But who couldn't make it unfortunately

Doug Oh yeah yeah you would love Doug L Douglas Hogan He is amazing Yeah, you will love He's a great guy Aw Yeah, like I said

We're just scratching the surface Keep coming to Papagram, Diane And you'll be so locked in You'll never be able to escape I will never be able to leave No, I'm already working on getting her To get a signal So we can immerse her into the PBN chat

Oh, you want to scare to death too On top of it all, okay No, no we're going to absorb her like a mass paramecium or amoeba so she's going to become a part of the group Hey yeah Hey that's fine by me

That's fine by me All right ladies let's wrap it up I'm getting tired I'm me too It's been a long day Jafir you got your third or fourth wind in the middle of this thing I think you look more tired at the beginning

than you did at the end I had a A debilitating migraine For a good like four and a half five hours today So this is the first some where I'm finally not, I can feel my face. So I'm good.

Yeah, I get the migraines where I lose vision and I complete facial numbness or paralysis in my limb. So it's like finally have movement back. Yikes. That's horrible. Yeah. Right. But thank you guys.

Seriously. And I'm trying to have everything. Thank you. It said it was going to be plus some. Yeah. That's how we do it. All right, folks, on to PreparCamp, 2026. Like I said, you got a month-ish.

And then tickets will be on sale. Don't miss it. Don't miss out again and kick yourself in the ass. It's not worth it. All right. We'll talk to you guys tomorrow. Thanks so much, Gals, for hanging with me tonight. And we'll get together more often on Monday nights.

We need to do that again. It's a fun time. All right, folks. Adios. Go ahead. Go ahead. So, I'm sorry

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