The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Preppers LIVE: Author Karl A. D. Brown (Replay December 2020)

Episode Date: March 5, 2024

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We have to hit the reset button and create a true culture of preparedness, starting at a very young age and filtering all the way up. He had thought then about buying a generator, but then pushed the idea away. His rationale had been that it was too expensive, and he trusted the power company to restore power quickly if there was an outage. Now looking at the news coming out of the countries in the middle of their economic meltdowns, he began to realize that his family was not as prepared for an emergency as they should have been. A couple of words from the T.S. Eliot poem, The Love Song of J. Alfred, Prufrock, flashed through his thoughts. He

realized that he was, quote, like a patient etherized upon a table. He had been in a state of social ignorance and sleep. Alfie found himself then really looking at his life in a new way. He felt like he had been one of those animals that would get fawned over and fattened up on a farm, not out of love, but just so they could be easily led to the slaughterhouse. He then realized that maybe he had been too reliant on the government, the country's infrastructure, and the goodwill of his fellow man to take care of him and his family. If there really was a problem, he mused, the only people who could take care of his family was his family.

What is up, PBN family? Just a little excerpt there from The Prepper, Part 1, The Collapse by Carl A.D. Brown. I'm sure you're familiar with the title. We've had him on as a sponsor for at least a month now. And, man, I'm'm gonna tell you what what really took me aback on that story was reading those first formative chapters where uh the main character alfie starts to have those revelations that we all had at one point in our life. I mean everybody. Everybody who listens to PBN. And everybody who hosts here on PBN.

Has their set story. When it all started to come together. Before their eyes. When they were like whoa. It's time to step my game up. And take this prepping thing seriously. So tonight. We've got Carl A.D. Brown.

On the show with us. We're lucky enough to have the author of the book from the excerpt that you just heard. Great read. I highly recommend it. I mean, it really is. It's a book for the time right now and particularly for the holiday season because it's one of those books you can sit down with if you got some time off, and you'll blow right through it. I'm telling you, it's an easy read, and you'll blow right through it, and then you'll have to get yourself part two. So we got Dave Jones. We got Jordan Smith on the phone with us,

and I think we should just get the ball rolling. and I think we should just get the ball rolling. Carl, I'd love to hear from you, my man, about your kind of personal aha moment when it came to prepping. Welcome into the show. These are some of my favorite stories when I hear about the early things that sort of changed the machine's route, changed the course that was previously charted. You know what I mean?

And I'm sure Dave and Jordan have their own stories as well. And that little excerpt really kind of spurred this all to the front of what I'd like to talk about tonight, which is what was the entry-level objective when you got into prepping, Carl? level objective when you got into prepping, Carl? Well, you know, as you know, I am originally Jamaican, right? And during the late 70s, yeah, during the late 70s and early 80s in my country when I was a teenager, I lived through some of the things that you guys are probably seeing now to a certain degree, but they were a little bit more extreme where I'm from.

During that time, you know, a big push, you know, for socialism in my country. And I remember when I was a kid, you know, Fidel Castro would be on the television and everything was in black and white then, you know, and we had this guy and he was on TV speaking Spanish for, you know, 90 minutes or more. He gave these really long speeches and everybody was like, why are we watching this why are we seeing you know and it was just because they were trying the government at the time and the politicians at the time were trying to kind of bring this way of thinking into our country and you know I remember you know my aunt you know getting on the long lines and to buy food and you, we got stuff because she knew people and that was the way, you know, it started to work. And the violence, you know, I remember as a young boy in, you know, in my country, being on a bus,

you know, getting, going home from school, not a school bus, just a regular bus that anybody will take. And I remember we got into downtown Kingston and, you know, some people barricaded the street and they stopped the bus. They took a guy off the bus and they said, well, you know, he is, And they said, well, you know, he is, I guess he's a socialist or whatever it was. And they stabbed him, you know, and he managed to get back onto the bus. Right. And the bus and I were on the bus and this is stuff that we were witnessing. So, you know, we would always see, we would always see in America, you know, when I was there, we would always see you guys have all these, you know, elections and no one, no one got killed. You know, it was, it was like a, it was like this thing where it was like, wow, you know, so they have elections and people have different points of view and no one gets killed. You know, like no one gets hurt. You know, they actually go to the polls and it works. And, you know, coming here, I think that I just had that mindset.

Yeah, you know, I really, it's something that really did stick with me coming here, you know, and, you know, I got into prepping slowly, you know, it was just a thing where, okay, you know, what do I have? What do I need? You know, why would I need it? You know, and then I wrote the book. And because I was writing the book, it made me realize, you know, hey, I really need this. And if we had a real bad emergency, because we did where I live, we had some bad flooding. And, you know, our town was just pretty much swamped out. It was completely flooded out. And I watched people have to go to the local university where they were using it as a shelter. And people lost their homes. We suffered from that for years. Once it came, it took years for our, you know,

our county to recover from it. And it made me start thinking about, you know, what if I did get cut off in a snowstorm or if there was another flood or, you know, so I started just getting things together. You know, you get that generator, you know, then you start looking at your food supply, you know, you start wondering, okay, you know, what should I have? And then you start that, well, that's how I really started that journey. And writing the book helped me to, you know, further on in that journey. And I didn't really expect the book when I wrote it to have been such a universal thing I had people who I never thought would read something like that reading it and wanted to talk to me about it and uh you know I'm you know it was it was it was a real it was a real eye-opener because I never thought that it would appeal.

You know, I knew that preppers would see it and pick it up, and, you know, I would get feedback from the community, but I didn't expect so many people outside of the community to have any kind of interest or connection to it. You know, one person told me, you know, because it's so short, that first book, you know, they're like, one person told me it's a you know because it's so short that first book you know they're like yeah carl it's a real scary everybody should read you know it's a scary little thing and uh you know so yeah um and people have passed that book around i have friends who uh you know have you know they started started prepping and they've passed it around.

And the thing is, once the coronavirus thing broke and, you know, yeah, once that broke, I was lucky enough to, I was listening to your podcast and everything else before that. And once it broke and the way you guys handled it, the way you did, you know, you did a Corona cast and, you know, just listening to, you know, I can say Jay Fergie and Dave Jones talk about what they were doing and how they were planning. And this is like info that, you know, myself and my friends, we just pass the stuff around, you know.

Oh, that's so cool. You know, I've got an oxygen, you know, because Dave Jones said, hey, you know, like, what was it like in January? He was like, one of the things I think we should get and maybe have is an oxygenator, you know. So, yeah, you know, is an oxygenator you know so yeah you know i have one you know and it really it made me realize just what a public service you guys are doing i mean it's you guys i don't think you really understand the power of your platform and and just what it can do

to help people especially in a bad time, especially in a time like this, in an emergency. You know, it was a massive thing, you know, just listening to the daily caches, you know, like what was going on and how you guys were handling it and, you know, seeing, you know, like just listening to, you you know are you panicking or what's going on and being able to get intel from different parts of the country because you guys are in virginia i know that but then you know you have i think there's one host who's like in washington state or something like that oh yeah so it was nice to be able to hear things from different parts of the country and and you get a real good beat of what's going on.

Dave Jones mentioned something actually today about, you know, like a national emergency, because I was listening to the podcast today, you know, the Daily Cash Day, and I think that's a good idea. It's a powerful thing you guys have, and it's going to be interesting to see how it evolved from this point on because getting through this this crisis this crisis was a test and you guys passed i just want you guys to know that uh you know you know because between me and the people who you know uh here uh who were you know they would listen in from time to time you know, hear, who are, you know, they would listen in from time to time. You know, I could, you know, I would hear something valuable,

and I was able to pass it on or give them the link to a podcast that was important, what we deemed to have been important, you know, important information. So, yeah, I just have a really good public service outlet there, and it's going to be interesting to see how you go forward from here. Well, I appreciate that, Carl. That's a huge compliment, man. And I want to go back real quick to something you said that everyone in the whole United States needs to hear because it rocked me just now. states needs to hear because it it rocked me just now you said that when you were experiencing your crisis in jamaica you would watch the elections on television in the united states and you would marvel at the fact that we could disagree and not kill each other and hold elections and not kill

each other and i don't know if you understand how powerful that is, what you just said right there for the times. But, you know, we are where most people's heads are right now. Well, maybe not most people, but where a lot more people than I've ever seen before's heads that are right now is in the exact opposite. Right. It's like we need some action here in the streets or you know what i mean some kind of revolutionary upheaval during this election and man that's god that's a powerful point right a powerful point is hold on you know this this thing we do is special. And, you know, wow. I can't dissect it all right now and give answers and good wrap-ups and conclusions to it all. But I would like for everyone out there listening to sit down and just think about the power of that, right?

That a nation, and I'm sure it wasn't just Jamaica, and I'm sure it's not just Jamaica even to this day, but these nations that can be embroiled or are embroiled in violence, in radical violence, watch from afar. Watch the United States. So, you know, just be wary. You know, I know it seems like a crazy time where violence might be the answer, but it's hard to get back from that. So, yeah, thank you for that, that's a big one

no problem as I said it's something where no one really talks politics openly in my old country because I am American now, and I haven't been really following things like there

because I've been engaged in my life here wholeheartedly. But when I left, no one spoke about politics. It was something that ripped families apart. It was a violent time, And that is something that I hope that you guys will never see here. It's already happening. You know, you have a really good system. Well, yeah, you know, the thing is, you see it. I think that there are some people, they're playing with fire, right? It's kind of like the dragon that you let in and you just can't get it out once, once, once you let it in. And I think that,

you know, hopefully you, you know, as a country, we can really, we can really take the foot off the gas here and, and, you know, like what makes us American, right? It's because we can really take the foot off the gas here. And, you know, like what makes us American, right? It's because we can all, it's a huge melting pot, and we can all kind of live together and get along, and we can have different points of view. You know, it used to be where at the dinner table, right, you know, you would sit down and, you know, it used to be where at the dinner table, right, you know, you would sit down and, you know, one person could be, you know, a Democrat and the other person could be Republican. And, you know, you have a different way of seeing the world and different points of view.

You know, as a matter of fact, it was those differences that made us, you know, it was the ability to tolerate those differences that made us strong. Oh, for sure. You know, as I said, I came from a different cultural mindset where, you know, yeah, you didn't talk politics because you could get you killed. You know, there were people who would, you know, kick your door off in the middle of the night and terrorize your family, you know, at the point of a gun. So, yeah, you know, coming here and being able to be engaged in this wonderful ongoing experiment that we're running here is a huge privilege and something that we should not throw away. And this, it makes me very uncomfortable to watch all the violence now and people not being able to really speak their mind. Free speech is being trampled on, you know, with all the censorship that's going on. You know, they're all trying to control all the information that you, you hear

and you see. And, you know, it's very unsettling, you know, you, I'm a dystopian writer, and everything that is all pointing to a future that I would not, I don't want to see, you know, it's this Orwell Huxley-ian, you know, Randian future that I don't want to be part of, you know, so I'm hoping maybe your platform and other platforms like this can help pull us back from the brink. There's a lot of, I'm sure right now, especially with the election, there's a lot of very upset people out there right now, especially with the election, there's a lot of very upset people out there right now. And, you know, I think that, you know, with your help and with other platforms, we can help dial this back. Well, we have to escape.

I really, I really fear for the president. Yeah, I think we have to escape the desperation mindset. Yeah, I think we have to escape the desperation mindset. You know, law and order has to be placed back on its pedestal, particularly in terms of the riots and the clashes when you have protests. But there's also what has been built over, and I know this because I watched it, I watched the techniques at the low level in the prepping world back in 2010 you know there are there are it's very easy to make a person feel like this is the most desperate time and anything you can do to survive this desperate

time you have to do and when i look out across what's happening on both sides of the political spectrum here in America, that's what each side is on right now. This is the most desperate moment in human history. We have got to get rid of Biden. We have got to get rid of Trump. If we don't get rid of Biden and Trump, then it is all lost. You know, it doesn't matter really which side you're on. It's both, right? One side is saying the same thing that the other side is saying, just with a different enemy. But it is total desperation. You know, we have to act now or all is lost.

And, you know, throughout the history of the United States, that's never been the case. And to be quite honest with you, I don't think it's the case now. But that desperation is a pill. Here's the thing, right? Yeah. I ran an experiment the last couple of weeks, right, where I did not watch the news really or listen to it.

My wife is great. I don't know how she does it. She doesn't follow the news or anything. I mean, she's a really busy person, but she doesn't really, like, get involved in any of that stuff. And, you know, for the most part, you know, apart from just being stressed about her job, you know, she is pretty good, you know, in terms of stress levels and everything else. So for about, you know, two weeks, I said, I'm not going to be following any of this. And it was really kind of nice waking up in the morning. It's almost like I unplugged,

you know, like, you just unplug and then you realize that they're just yanking your chain one way or the other with all these stories that they put out. And I think that a lot of Americans just kind of probably need to break the chain, break the power structure. Just unplug. Yeah, it sounds like a good beginning of the year challenge. Look at what's around you in the community. Oh, man, it sounds like a good beginning of the year challenge. Look at what's around you in the community. Oh, man, it was wonderful. You know, I would still once in a while, okay, just go in and say, okay, you know, what's really kind of going on? But it was really nice not to be completely consumed by any of it.

You know, I spent more time, you know uh with my with my children with my projects around the house you know i have quails and everything else and uh they're laying eggs like crazy even in the winter time you know it was just nice to just kind of get out just do those projects around the house and read and connect with my kids and my family and you know my friends and everything else and and not but worry about you know these these people who just kind of want to yank her chain and you know they put they plant one flag over here and another flag over there and they say okay go go beat yourself silly right it's kind of like that whole thing and um what's the name of that book it was um all quiet on the western where uh the uh the old sergeants said yeah there's a scene i believe the old

sergeant said you know what we should do we should put all the kings and all these leaders all in a field and give them bats and just have them go at it and and winner take all and they just leave us alone. Okay. Right. And I think that because all they do is just wind people up, you know, they just wind and they get angry with each other. It just completely destroys their life. You know, people shouting at the television screens and it's like, I mean, it's not worth, it's not worth your time and your blood pressure and your health and everything else.

And, you know, creating enemies and your family, you know, like your family, it's not really worth it. You know, we'll survive whomever they'll put up there. They're all, you know, the way I see it, they're kind of like, they're all kind of like gangsters anyway. Right. And it's all kind of like the shell game that they're all running up there, you know, and it's like, you know, it's do any of them really stand for the truth? Do any of them really stand for, you know, the little people like myself? You know, I don't know. You know. It's one of those things. I just know when I wake up in the morning, I have to go to work just like everybody else. You get through your job, you get home, and you have to take care of your family.

And that's what matters. That's why prepping matters because then if something bad comes, at least you have a little bit more in reserve to preserve the health of your family and their well-being. And I think that's why what you guys are doing, it's really, really valuable and have those connections out there that you can show people, you know, what to do and how to do it. And to give them insights into that lifestyle of self-sufficiency is a wonderful thing.

So, you know, I just want to say once again, thanks for everything that you guys are doing. I'll say it again, you did pass the test you know covid was a was the test right uh you know um i really it makes me shiver to think uh you know of something really serious if if we were to really go through something really serious uh how it would all play out because this was bad and it was survivable okay it's not like it was an emp right it's not like it was an emp or or um you know like uh something like you know yellowstone erupting or or or something like you know or or the the uh the earthquake zone there uh you know, erupting. This was almost like a drive-run, right?

It was a drive-run. How are you on your preps? What do you do? How are your connections in the community? You know, do you have people that can back you? One of the mistakes Alfred made was he didn't really have people. He did it all by himself. And the one thing I really do all of this is that you really can't do it by yourself. You do need some like-minded people around you. You don't need a lot of them. You just

need some people who can help you with certain things. Like, you know, if you don't know how to build a chicken coop, for instance, you know, they can help you with that. Or, you know, how to do an area study or, you know, or, yeah. You just need that community out there of support. There's no doubt about it. Yeah, and you to develop those relationships now. Say it again, Dave Jones. That's a big one.

Yeah, and you need to develop those relationships right now. Yes, that's big. If you say that COVID was a practice run, now is when you need to say, oh, shoot, this is what I didn't do.

This is what I need to do. Hey, Carl, I got a question for you. Did you get the quails after you listened to me talk about quails? Yeah. You know, I went online and I did a thorough research, and I realized that I wanted quails instead of chickens. You know, it was because they were so quick. From egg to meat in like six to seven weeks, you know, that whole thing appealed to me.

So I went out and I got my chicks and I got eggs done, right? It was all learning on the fly, right? Because I didn't know how bad the food situation was going to get. And I got the whales in, and it's been a success. You know, during the wintertime, just like with you, you know, I thought about, you know, should I just put them in the freezer at that point because they had stopped laying. But as soon as I put them in the shed, because I have a shed, I moved them from the outside into a shed.

They started laying again. And I've got a fridge load of quail eggs. It's great. My family eats them. My wife actually made deviled quail eggs. Awesome. I couldn't believe that she did that with those tiny little things. And that was great. So they've been enjoying them.

I like to eat the quails. They like to eat the quail eggs. And from that, you learn animal husbandry and everything else i i you know it it gave me an insight into self-reliance that you know i've always you know put up food done all the things you know uh like that but in terms of trying to be in some ways self-sustaining i've never really tried that until now so uh yeah uh dave it was, it was because you guys mentioned it on the air. And now I have a friend who also preps. And, you know, he was like, you know, Carl, if I really want to do this, I know I can ask you to show me how to do great validation you know we hardly ever hear from anybody out

you know and you know the regulars you know volcano chance they do so much for the station. But to hear, hey, we've got a fan out there, and he actually wrote a book that in turn, we can promote and get more preppers. I mean, this book could appeal to anyone because it's about you know the hero has to overcome obstacles it's a classic story and it gets people thinking again yeah there's no doubt about that yeah I think

you know what I feel bad about Carl is that I feel bad that this is our first time talking you know, with our voices rather than our typing with, but that's kind of funny because of what we both do. Um, but yeah,

I think, uh, well, there's a bunch of stuff running through my head now, but I'm sure we'll talk offline after. Uh, yeah. I love,

well, I'll leave it at that. Jordan, you got anything for carl i know he's got to hit the road here at 30 minutes till no i'm listening i'm kind of like with dave i'm i'm impressed to hear you know i i know we have our regulars but to hear someone outside of our regulars is really exciting, actually. So it's interesting to see that you went from your home country to here at times, not that I'm trying to sound like a naysayer, but do you ever feel like you've left one predicament for another?

That's a good question. a document for another? That's a good question. I mean, you look at the state. You look at how everything's going, and it's like, okay, and now I'm not saying it's extreme, but in our own sense, it kind of is.

Well, what I left behind is you guys are nowhere near that. We're nowhere near that here, right? What I do see right now troubles me a little bit, okay, in terms of, you know, how safe is our electoral process? You know, it's a heck of a thing when your government realizes that they don't need your votes anymore, if that's the case, right? Different things, you know, in terms of, you know, the violence on the street. on the street. So, yeah, what I see now troubles me a little bit, but I think that we can bring it back.

We can bring the sanity back. And I think that, as I said, through platforms like yours, through the network here that you guys have and through other platforms, you guys can start saying, hey, you know what, we really need to dial this down and start making the

common man, the regular guy, the voice that's being heard here. Because no one wants the violence. No one wants any of this. It's kind of like Alfie. He didn't want any of it wants the violence. No one wants any of this. It's kind of like Alfie. He didn't want any of it in the book. No one wants Armageddon. Only the crazies want that. We all have families that we're looking after, we're protecting, and we just want our regular lives.

we're protecting and you know uh we just want our regular lives okay it might not seem like much to most other people but for me i i just want my regular life i want to get up in the morning go to work you know being able to join enjoy my family i i don't want anything i don't want any excitement or anything like that you know so yeah i do see you see some troubling parallels, you know, and, you know, I was talking with James about, you know, like the whole Ayn Rand dystopian concept, you know, where, you know, the producers got run out of town, right, and all that. And if you've ever read Atlas Shrugged, you know, which is another something I would recommend every prepper to read is Atlas Shrugged. You know, apart from Brave New World and 1984, Atlas Shrugged should be up there on the top. A lot of people misread Ayn Rand, I think. But, you know, you could see it

slipping. And I think that we need the same people to get it back. And I think that as long as you guys are out there, you know, trumpeting the truth, then I think that we have a good shot at bringing it back to what it was, you know, to reestablish that American way of doing things, you know, and not this, what we see happening now, where we just add each other's throats. So, you know, I can only hope for the best, right? I'm a prepper, right? I prepare for the worst and I hope for the best. James, I just want to say thank you so much for everything that you've done. Thanks, Dave. Thanks, Jay Fergie. Thanks, everybody.

Stephen Menking, thanks for what you guys are doing. It's a valuable thing. It made me able to function and, and, and really think about my family and to really take the prepping to a different level. It enabled me to do that. You know, being able to switch on that podcast during the day and, and just hear what was going on and, and, and knowing that, you know, the world is still out there was, was great in the middle of, in the, because when, when in, in the early parts of COVID,

I think that we were all a little nervous and all a little, you know, we didn't know what was coming. It was a great, and just having some touchstones as to how, you know, what to do in an emergency how to to you know in terms of your food and your water and and you think about your family and growing food and and and being self-sustaining and everything else and learning how to make contacts in the community because even James was talking about that in a couple of his podcasts too about going out and you know just kind of trying to see who's there and making contacts. It was all very valuable. So thank you.

And, you know, I'll be listening. Well, we thank you, sir. Have a good night and great work on the books, man. Thanks, James. And, you know, when I'm done with the other one, right, which is a Christian historical fiction, right, it's people discovering Christ in the future, right? You know, a rediscovery of Christ in the future, right? We could use it right now. I kind of wanted to take a little, yeah, I was trying so hard to get it done, but because of the you can have through, you know, living the Christian life and rediscovering, you know, as these guys did, they rediscovered Christ in the book, you know, when it was, you know, something that most people didn't know about in the future, right? Because all of that was suppressed and everything else, you know, I think it's a valuable thing. So once that's done, I think we'll have another chat, James. Or you can call me anytime.

Yeah, no doubt about it. I'm going to be calling you for sure. Thanks, sir. It was a blast, no doubt about it. Thank you, everybody. Thanks, everyone. You're very welcome. Bye. thank you everybody thanks everyone you're very welcome Carl A.D. Brown folks you're welcome

Carl A.D. Brown folks author of the book The Prepper part 1 The Collapse and part 2 I don't have the title in front of me I do apologize for that yeah guys I think I don't know if you guys hear what i hear in carl but it sounds to me like uh i'm gonna have to do some negotiating in the near future for a new a new host on pbn what do you think that guy's got the he's got a good message

and he's got a good uh he likes to talk i good, uh, he likes to talk. I could, I could see him definitely sinking his teeth into a podcast. I don't know if you're out there listening, Carl, but he'll probably be hearing from me on that. Yeah, that's a great idea. Bring him on Friday nights. Yeah. Something like that thing. And then, and then move him into one of the nights, Yeah, something like that. Open bunker thing and then move him into one of the nights, you know, that needs help. Yeah, well, I don't think we have any that need help, but we definitely need more voices. Oh, speaking of, two big things in terms of more voices on the network. Sam Culper is going to be bringing us reports on intelligence.

We've talked about that before. Sam seems to be the kind of guy that you've got to stay on a little bit. So I'm going to keep at him, and he's committed already, so I'm sure the fact that he's committed, he's going to go ahead with it. It just may be up to him. What was that oh sorry i thought i was needed oh no problem no problem uh it just might be that we need to stay on him i think that's a great idea yeah he'll be on um I also got a hold of Christian from the Ice Age Farmer over the weekend. And what he does is he takes his reports,

that are usually about 20, 25 minutes on the agricultural system, and he puts them in MP3 form. And he's given us full permission to take that MP3, cut it up however we want, and re-air it also. So, effectively, if we can get... Well, at the very least, at the very least, PBN will be able to bring you an economic report from Stephen Menking, an intelligence report from Sam Culper, and an agriculture report from Christian the Ice Age Farmer. At least one per month, probably way more than that.

I know I should be able to get four agriculture reports a week out of Christian, which will be just amazing going into 2021. Sam, I'm not sure because we haven't done anything with him yet. Stephen's usually good for about two economic updates a month uh so these i'm gonna look for more of these little snippets man i like i like these you know these little reports that we can put in and really give people something that is different than a podcast and and really kind of focuses in on a one certain area so i'm super excited about that that that's going to be a big change for pbn

and a huge added bonus for the listeners out there you know to be able to hear from these different voices and these kind of focused voices on what it is they're talking about but what do you guys think? Christian Ice Age Farmer, Sam Culper? I want to throw in real quick. This one I'm not yelling at y'all. I wanted to throw in a little bit of good news on my end that we did finally get the test results back.

Oh, yes. And my daughter is negative. So we are COVID-free within this household. I won't be able to return to work till Wednesday when her father and that family is actually out of their quarantine period for having COVID. So it has been interesting, but we're still taking extra precautions on their end. They're still going to be masked up and disinfecting the house just to ensure that there's no chance of the children picking it up after the quarantine. So it has been a roller coaster. Yeah, no doubt about it.

No doubt about it. One more little snippet of news that we have to announce, especially since we have you on, Jordan. You'll get a kick out of this. I don't know if you listened to the MOF podcast today or not. Did you? If you didn't. I didn't know if you listened to the MOF podcast today or not. Did you? If you didn't. I didn't get to listen to today, so I'm just going to listen

to it later. Make sure you listen to it because there's a very funny moment in there. First and foremost, let me just make the announcement so it all makes sense. Disaster Coffee has released its first off-label coffee called Dark Humor, and it is sort of the flagship coffee of the Matter of Facts podcast.

Okay, so we got on the horn with the guys from Matter of Facts podcasts. They decided that they wanted to have sort of a novelty product in their own Disaster Coffee. Proceeds still going where they go. Profits still going where they go. And it is essentially a pro bono thing for them, but they have a really cool product that they get to, you know, send to their listenership. And it's an awesome coffee first and foremost, right? It's our darkest blend that we have to offer.

It's a French roast, and they named it and everything. They called it Dark Humor, which I think is perfect for those guys. If you don't know the Matter of Facts podcast, you should check it out. It's a great couple guys. But anyhow, the story is we're sitting there, Jordan, and we're talking last night on this sort of release podcast where I'm playing James, the owner of Disaster Coffee, for a change instead of James that I see here at Prepper Broadcasting, which was an interesting role. And we're going sort of back and forth about who was responsible for the coffee idea was it james was it bobo and we came to this conclusion that it was none that it was actually jordan

it was actually jay fergie who was this who spawned this coffee idea and we would die him because we were like oh god i mean i even went as far as to say maybe we should change the name to Jay Ferg. But dark humor is pretty good, too. So, yeah, that was a conversation that you and Andrew had, if I remember. And then you called me the next day and were kind of like, look, man, could be something here. And that has all come to fruition. So now available at DisasterCoffee.com, you can get that dark humor. Yes, I was playing liaison and hit a point where I was like okay no more liaison y'all have to talk directly

no I think that's great I think that is so cool I totally forgot about it too it was so weird Phil asked the question he was like so whose idea was this and I remember Andrew was trying to say it was mine and I was trying to say it was his and we were both kind of like I don't think that's right at all and that's when we remembered it

was it was you you called me one morning and told me yeah get on the horn with andrew he wants tall coffee and uh so yeah i think this and just so you know those out there listening particularly those who are listening that are hosts of podcasts and friends of us. I think this MOF coffee is probably going to be the first coffee in a series of coffees that are going to be kind of built around our friends and podcasts. You know what I mean? That'll give... Oh, absolutely. Yeah.

I'm not going to get an order to buy a baby. I think we've got a lot of potential here to reach new audiences. You know, and the cool thing about it is when you do it with a podcast, the Disaster Coffee customer base then gets to learn about the podcast. Because if they start drinking the coffee, then they're like, okay, well, I might as well listen to Matter of Facts. drinking the coffee then they're like okay well i might as well listen to matter of facts and then the matter of facts listener base starts to get to know other flavors of disaster coffee and it's really i think it's going to be a cool trade-off but um yeah just big things happening

over here on this side of the fence um what else what's going on with dave jones he seems awfully quiet is he still with us he must not be uh yeah no yes no i'm here can you hear me i got you sound good all good man i have nothing but technical difficulties we're having a windstorm here so the internet seems to be fading in and out i don't know that's a good point yeah this uh when uh when melinda lee put in the chat room jay fergie did you get your results today you know exactly what i thought pregnant yeah i'm being able to do that so i'm you know there always has to be one other thing right that really would top off the year

for you wouldn't it Jayferg oh my god I think y'all would hear an episode of Dick Peer crying Jayferg cries for 30 minutes a family affair yeah that's it oh by the way I didn't get to talk Jay Ferg cries for 30 minutes. This is a family affair.

Yeah, that's it. Oh, by the way, I didn't get to talk to you in person about it. You handled Saturday Night Show like it was one of the best examples of the family affair model that I've heard to date. Yes. I was just going to say that you came and took it right out of my frontal lobe there. Man, it was, I mean, there were some times that I felt like I was going to get up out of my seat. And you handled it so good. Like I was like ready to go into the kid's room and be like, quiet down.

And you would be like, oh, and right when I was thinking that you would, you would grab them and do your thing. Yeah, I don't know how you do that. is a magic that is a magic trick yeah there you go yep that's it that that was that first one that measured it's like a measured kind of uh motherly thing you know that man that's hard to do you've got to be very i don't know if you understand how comfortable in front of the microphone you have to be to be able to do that you know because most of the time people are intently focused on what they're doing and if something comes to distract them from it it's like tremendous irritability you know what i mean it's like get away doing a podcast i'm gonna screw my train of thought up and uh you've got a gift for that but it's the same with phone conversations if anyone

calls me and you hear me yell at my kids and be like okay by the way i'm not ignoring you keep talking i can multitask and yeah yeah yeah that's what it reminds me of. It reminds me of mothers on the phone back when I was a little kid. That's what it reminds me of, a lot like that. You know, like moms talking on the phone, walking around, and hey, quiet, don't eat that, and go right back to the conversation. That's what it reminds me of. It's that rojo mother thing. Yeah, my favorite is when you look over

and you see a child sticking her foot in her other sister's face don't lick that yeah i love that it's as much of the dynamic as it is trying to command an army or a group of people i feel like my children are a little more organized than that i would love to make a little book just a little a little toilet book like a little bathroom book that was just a collection of the things that you say as a parent that you would never say if you weren't a parent you know what i mean like don't don't lick that. You know, you say things as a... Don't put that in your mouth. Right, exactly.

Spit it out. Spit it out. That was... You know, I find I tell my dogs that as much as my children, and I'm always, you know, the hook, trying to get in there and get whatever it is they expect. Like, one child ate a bug. You know, when it's your younger child, you're quick to get it out. When it's the second one, it's like, you've already swallowed it. I you're quick to get it out when it's the second one it's like you've already swallowed it i'm not gonna even try yeah there's

another one there's another one you've already swallowed it i'm not even gonna try when in the world would a normal person say something like that you know it's so great yeah that's parenting though it's one of those things I you know I appreciate the listeners who speak through the entire thing because I know there are a lot of people even even while listening to that or even on phone conversations let me let you go you sound busy I'm like no I got plenty of time you know I don't I don't see it as a impartment or an intrusion, but I'm accustomed to this one. So the fact that I haven't lost my regulars, and I'm sure I have lost a few listeners over it, I'm thankful for them. I'm wondering how many people stick by just to see how it turns out.

Oh, yeah. When's she going to throw a shoe? What's going on? Yeah. I want to hear what happens next. No sound effects are being thrown right now. Yeah. No sound effects are being shot across the room right now. No, I know. No, that's what makes PBN so unique, man. You know, it's podcast.

The only downside to podcasting, for the most part, is that typically it's one person. You know, and with our network, it's new people every night, you know, and they all have their thing. You know, even though we're all preppers and we all do prepping shows, when you listen to the shows from one week, it's not like you're listening to the same thing in any show. That's what's weird about it. You know, you would assume, all alright, it's a prepper network.

They're going to talk food and water and, you know, firearms and training every night of the week. Every night. Right. And our shows are so different every night. I'm a bit biased, but I think that's what separates our network from a lot of other networks.

It's because we each fit so differently and to a completely different scope. So my show may not work for one of your listeners or vice versa, but at least everybody gets a little bit of something from somebody. So we find something that fits that niche that necessarily an entire network doing the same thing wouldn't do. Well, there is no network doing what we do.

That's a guarantee. I mean, there's no... Right. You can say... Yeah, I mean... It's a live chat, shows every night of the week, okay? Yeah. And, you know, a website, members-only section.

I mean, we are a one-stop shop for prepper extraordinaire oh yeah it's only getting better too yeah i'm wondering how you're gonna top this in 2021 because i'm telling you 2020 was pretty damn impressive and then we've got independent challenge accepted okay because 2021 has to be a whole lot better than 2020 was for me and then we've got independent validation. Challenge accepted. Challenge accepted, okay? Because 2021 has to be a whole lot better than 2020 was for me. I'm just telling you right now, challenge accepted. Taking that one on. I don't know about you, but I'm getting a little tired.

I've been prepping my ass off for this test. Well, I tell you what I kind of do want to do. Now that I have the negative results, I have been knocking out as much orders as I've been trying. Yeah. I don't know if you guys saw the YouTube video, but you might be getting tapped for some Fergs. I don't know how that'll work.

I put a little YouTube video up on the website about it. If you do not listen, contact me directly. Message me, email me. You can message me through Etsy. I will talk to you and we will fit your needs. Please, please, please. The only thing I didn't do. Don't do the website thing.

Here's what. So I talked to Jarrah on Friday night. And he was saying, it's a shame I don't have a website. I said, I had a website for years that didn't do shit for me yeah he he does uh facebook and he said just message me on facebook it's jera welker woodworking and he does these flags and crosses and now he's doing coin holders for challenge coins. It's great. And he just – well, he's just a kid.

Everybody's just a kid in my book. I have found it in a website when you've got word of mouth and other – I've got Instagram, which I'm going to be revamping up my Dragonfly Creations page. I'm going to actually start doing stuff with it. I've got my Etsy, which I'm not a huge fan of Etsy. I'd rather you contact me directly because Etsy, after a while, just takes so much out of what you've sold, you barely get into it. Yeah. Yeah, no doubt about it. So in 2021, I was thinking that we maybe should start the year off

with a uh like a prepping primer that's one of the things i've been thinking about you know sort of a yeah some kind of 101 sort of thing in january you know just where we can rehash all of our because you know we're even if we like if you did a food storage show in january 2020 if you do a food storage show in january 2021 man it's gonna be a whole different show you know what i mean because of what's happened over the last year yeah this past year has been wow and and like carl said it was kind of a warning shot you know and isn't it interesting that he he's talking about us getting him going and he's writing the perfect book to bring new people in prep yeah It's like almost a self-fulfilling prophecy that this book, if listeners are listening and they don't know how to get someone into prepping,

get them this book for Christmas because it is compelling. It's one man's struggle. I mean, it's the perfect thing to introduce people to prepping yeah i'm telling you it was it was eerie reading that thing it was literally like i read that for those first few chapters and i was like god this could be my life this could be exactly the things that i went through when I first got into prepping. And that's most people's story. Yeah, and I think a lot of that is divinely inspired. That someone told Carl, write this book.

You know, I wish I could have talked to him more. Maybe we'll get another chance, bring him on again. Oh, we're going to hear from Carl more, don't worry. Yeah, he would be a great help. Yeah, yeah. Especially where he is in prepping. Who is Edwin? When he said he was into the quail, I immediately thought of you, Dave.

Immediately. Hey, who is Edwin? Does anybody remember who Edwin is? Open up the Skype chat. Oh, it's Wynne. Oh, I saw that. I was saying, who the hell is Edwin? Giving thumbs up in the chat.

Yeah, I mean, I think guys like Carl right now, man, they are incredibly important. When you hear a guy talking about what he was talking about in comparison with, you jamaica in the 70s 80s it's a real perspective enhancer man that's a real perspective enhancer for a time like this it you know it it's the real talk it's the real talk like i was 13 and i lived through this and number one you're not there yet which is so important for people to hear it is so important for people to hear that very it takes like a

weight off your chest to hear you someone say you're not there yet you're on the way but you're not you know that that takes a load off well i think things i wanted to say to him car you're putting a lot on the intrepid commander but he thinks that prepper broadcasting is the answers of this country oh i know that's that's pretty frightening right it's like one of our one of our what who said it in chat oh lucky lucky said there's no other network with absolutely no coordination. So if that's any sense of what goes on here at PBN, I hope they're not depending on us to save the nation, right? That's kind of nerve-wracking.

I do think we need to talk about this. What I brought up in the Daily Audio cache. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah that's a good point that is a good point it's a way to get you know people that are listeners or people that are you know something more than an io because io is very limited limiting and and it will reach a certain amount of people but not not as many as you want to get the word out to. No, no doubt about it. I'll get chin on this because, you know what?

When I ask him a question, bang, he's out there 100 miles ahead. Oh, I know. I know. He's a monster. It's great. Yeah, there's a couple ways that I think about doing it. I can tell you right off the bat that we already have another entity primed and ready to go if anything were to happen with PBN being shut down. To be quite honest, though, I think, and it probably won't stay this way forever, but I think we are, our presence is of a size that we, I don't think we pose the kind of threat.

I don't think we would get singled out in that way, but who knows? You know, I guess you never really know. It really only takes one bad apple to show up and listen to the right show and then go to the right people, you know, and raise enough hell. It kicked off Discord. Yeah, well, that's true, too. That happened almost immediately, right? That was like we had that thing up for a week. Yeah.

But to be honest, though, Discord is basically, I mean, Discord is basically a place where video gamers hang out you know yeah it was it was cool and if not for it we wouldn't be an element which i really like so you know but but i think it was all i think we were playing in an environment where we were doomed anyway you know yeah plus they were getting ready to sell, so I know they were trying to make that thing as presentable as possible. So the last thing they want

is probably a bunch of preppers out there talking craziness. We can't have it. Get them off. But hey, it is what it is. You know, a big part of 2021, and man, I got to get to work on that thing, but a big part of 2021 that man i gotta get to work on that thing but a big part a big part of 2021 that i want to do on a personal level is to start outfitting people like me um with the

knowledge that i've gained through 2020 on how to deal with what happens if you get in a situation where that happens what happens if you get booted off patreon what happens if you get booted off of social media what happens if your podcast gets shut down you know all that stuff um i'd really like to put a resource together for you know those those other content creators out there so you know they don't find themselves in the same situation as so many are right now we haven't been beaten back at all yet, which is good. But we're preppers, man. If you don't think we don't have fourth and fifth level of response for what happens if PBN gets disappeared, I can tell you what, man. I have not yet begun to fight.

That's all I'll say about that. Very cool. about that very cool but i i do like the idea of a a moment of impact sort of uh response because that i don't have prepared you know we will resurface but you know i don't know it would be a 24-hour thing but we do have a lot of ways to contact people too though so i don't know um but i do like your idea of something that would just sort of take over if something were to happen. I like that. Then we could test it, too, in the middle of the day. Maybe we should talk offline because I got a couple ideas from my previous employment that we may be able to leverage. And I might even be able to get you a sponsor. Oh, snap. Well, we'll definitely talk.

sponsor oh snap well we'll definitely talk no i like it i also like it because i can add it to this book that i'm working on which is what i was just talking about you know that this can be an added resource to those content creators who find themselves in hot water or uh you know whatever you want to call it but yeah yeah man i i got the dac tomorrow because i got tons of stuff to talk about now okay cool i always like it i always appreciate a day off you know you wanted to i heard the click the click yeah i'm starting to make notes you guys chat because i can only keep one train of thought in my mind yeah it's uh it's nice one of my biggest problems with pbn in early 2020 was too much me so i appreciate that every time you guys hop on and do a deck i appreciate it because i i want people to get on to pbn and go okay this is a collection of hosts not

that that james guy is pretty cool. Do you know what I mean? I'd rather it be Dave and Steven and the occasional other host doing a DAC and all that stuff. And that's going to happen with these new reports too, which I'm looking forward to. They'll get a taste of it all. You're really doing two shows every week. Yeah, we won't be doing that forever.

I know it's bad because my family knows it now my kids know monday dad you're doing a show tonight right that's what i know it's getting bad so it won't be that way forever but preppers live it had to evolve it had to take its place you know what i mean it's fun it's a really cool little show and it gives us the ability to bring people on um that we don't Oh, so we might as well talk about next Monday before we call it a night. So next Monday was inspired by the conversation I had last night with the MOF guys. And I said, you know, we got to get you guys on to Preppers Live, both of you, because they're just fun. You know what I mean? because they're just fun, you know what I mean? And that was sort of the idea. So next week, what is it, the 21st of the month, Monday, we will do a Preppers Live with the team from MOF,

from Matter of Facts Podcast, Phil and Bobo, and it will effectively be like a podcast-style Christmas party. So we'll, I don't know, I'll gather some topics. I'll gather some fun stuff to talk about. I will probably be doing what people do at Christmas parties, you know? So, and I encourage those guys too. And they don't need much encouragement. So you can warm yourself up a little bit with drink.

And we'll have ourselves a really off-the-rails Preppers Live next weekend. Preppers Live, the Christmas special or the Christmas party or whatever you want to call it. It'll be a good one. Me, Greg. You know what? A year ago, I took my youngest son to Williamsburg. I don't know why. I guess Carter must have been doing

something with his mom, but I took my youngest son to Williamsburg, and we rolled up into this, you know, one of those colonial restaurants, and the waitress recommended I have a hot buttered rum. Have you ever had a hot buttered rum before?

I mean, it is an amazing drink it is an amazing drink oh my god it I never had one till that day and I was just like god winter it was freezing too you know what I mean we were freezing outside and we got in and I think I had like a I had a cassoulet of white beans and I don't remember what he ate and man I was cold and that hot buttered rum arrived with the butter on top melted in the hot cider and rum and I was just like oh god I gotta drive home so this I can have one of these but if I were at home man it'd be nap time so don't know. I might do a little hot buttered rum next week. We'll see. Rum shot, peppermint bar, and hot cocoa. Oh, yeah, that's a good one.

Oh, well, the guys from MOF were talking about Bailey's and their new coffee. They were talking about dark humor and Bailey's. So that's something to consider, too. I don't know. It'll be fun though. We'll do some fun stuff. So put your heads together on that too. You know what I mean?

We'll not try to get too into the hot and heavy and maybe just have some fun for a change with prepping and prepping topics. Maybe we'll do like a lottery question. One thing I always like is the lottery idea. Well, it's always fun with newscasts. Oh, yeah. You know, you win the lottery, what does your prepping compound look like?

That's always a good one. That can get a little long-winded, though. But it'll be a good time. No doubt about it. It'll be. I'll see if we can get some other hosts in too. I don't know, man. I don't really have much else.

What were you saying? Maybe we can see about getting Samantha back on sometime. I'm good with it. She's preggers though. I don't know what she's feeling like lately. She may not want to do any of that stuff. I don't know what she's feeling like lately. She may not want to do any of that stuff. I don't know how she's dealing with it. She may be doing that

nesting thing. No, not yet. Nesting will be coming up, just not yet. Oh. She's still in the sick phase. No, not exactly. She's halfway through and nesting doesn't kick in until towards the end.

You know what we should probably do? Oh, man, I remember. She did the nesting thing, right? So I come home from work at lunchtime one day, and I'm over at the neighbor's house, and I'm talking with the neighbor in his driveway, and all of a sudden I see the carpet from the master bedroom come out the window and land on the on the ground outside and i said i gotta go

over the house no no all the carpet is ripped up from the hall down through the master bedroom and she had thrown it out the window and i said what are you doing it was unclean that's right she says i can't stand this anymore it's dirty i i can't breathe so next weekend i was laying hardwood floors carpet is gross and you know what that is the part of of nesting now she had it a little more extreme but um i know i folded refold it not washed fold it and put up then rewash refold it and re-put up and reorganize everything when nesting hit everything was open game everything i mean you wouldn't believe how many times the same clean clothes got rewashed because it was not clean enough. Wow.

That's a little excessive compulsive there. No, and I'm not like that. Normally, I'm that person who will pick a shirt up and do the sniff test. So, you know. Yeah, my wife was a warrior as a pregnant lady. Well, she's a warrior anyway, but yeah, it was all of it. The whole pregnancy thing with Michelle was just insane. I mean, everything that you hear about pregnancy and pregnant women was the opposite.

It was crazy. Wow. She never stopped working out. I think she got sick for like two days. I mean, I don't even remember her hardly ever being sick and and she just kept it moving man she just kept on grinding and i think because of that when she finally went into labor it was like i mean we we we went into into the hospital, and our first son was born, like, in an hour. It was crazy. Wow.

Yeah, it was crazy. I remember we went in there, and, like, less than an hour, I'm holding a kid in less than an hour. I look at the clock. It was 12, 12 a.m. I was like, how the hell did this happen? And I thought it was a fluke. Second boy comes, same thing. You know, right in there.

Boom, done. I'm like, this is so great. Can I tell you about my first, when Deanna was born, okay, I mean, it was so overwhelming to me because I was 50 years old. I thought I would never have kids. And there I'm having my first child, you know. And, yeah, I never felt so huge and so big and powerful and so insignificant at the same time. And I just started bawling. maria looks up at me and

says stop crying bitch yeah i love that i love that i love your wife i know yeah you know i i can say honestly but each each delivery in each pregnancy it it was something. I mean, each one of them was so different, but so at the same time, amazing. It's funny that she say that to you because my children's father was sitting there and I had what you call the labor sweats. I was having that seat that hit with my last child and he's over there shivering

because they had the room down as cold as possible. And he looked at me and asked me, so what's your pain? Because he's one of those who, when he's scared or uncomfortable, he gives humor. Humor is not something you give me when I'm in pain. So my children were all natural. So this last one, he goes, well, what's your pain on the scale, pain scale? And he pointed at the scale, and I flipped him off and told him to uh shut the f up and the nurse just cracked that laugh and then he sat back with his heated towel and just shivers so it's just but it's just interesting

to see you know uh you're you're you know you had that moment where your wife was like yeah you know you're james your wife is amazing i mean both y'all have amazing women i've walked a mile every day when i was pregnant with hadley i wish i'd been so active with my last one but god bless they are children are the reason we do what we do though that's true when i held that baby in my arms carter i was just an idiot no i mean i just there was no i didn't have any idea about what prepping was it's so crazy to think about it my first son comes out i had a home we had a home we owned a home that was about the only thing that i had going for me outside of obviously a career and i can make money but you know none of that sort of responsibility even existed. I mean, the idea of being prepared for anything was the only

thing in my head at the time was like, make sure you got salt for the snow. You know, that was where I was when I had my first son, because I came from the Northeast. That's all we dealt with. You got snow. Okay, make sure you can get to work. Got to make money. But beyond that, it was nothing. And then in September of that year, it all started to change. And now the rest is history. Moms become preppers before they realize it. Moms always become preppers before they realize it because it hits a point where you always make sure you have plenty of outfits, plenty of diapers, and plenty of snacks. Oh, yeah. Well, moms always owned EDC, right? I mean, moms owned EDC for a long time.

Right? I mean, that was their thing. And I still worry about that. Yeah, those pocketbooks that mothers carried were like, you know, they had all, I mean, my mom's pocketbook had everything it was crazy didn't even make any sense magic yeah that's what it was like out of there you didn't even know yeah it was basically every every dreamy dc you know and now guys make all kinds of money off of what they carry on youtube i laugh at it sometimes like kept this pouch, and I got all this stuff in it,

and I think about my mom. But, you know, there's a reason for it. I think that might be it for us, though. Well, I could go all night. Yeah, I could go all night and talk about pregnancy stories because when we came back to her room, okay, she wanted to hold Deanna and and see if she would take milk you know oh sure yeah and and i got in her bed and i fell asleep you you got in

the pregnant lady's bed and fell asleep you mean with her on the chair on the chair. Oh. Oh, no. I needed a nap. It took a lot out of me. That's hilarious. I don't think I slept the night Carter was born. No, I did. I know the work that I put in delivering a child. You best not get to take a nap after what I did. Right.

And that's the point that she made for the rest of my life now. Oh, yeah, sure. You stole my damn bed when I was pregnant, when I had the baby. Oh, man. It is a wild thing. It is a wild moment in time having kids.

You know, one thing that you always want to be careful about is drawing lines between certain types of people but i always have attested and i probably always will and i don't care who gets upset you can't see the world the way parents see the world if you're not a parent. You know what I mean? It's just a different thing. It's a different set of eyes. I absolutely agree with you. I have friends who get so upset at me who, you know, they're like,

I'm a dog mom or I'm a cat mom, and I'm not trying to take anything away from you, but you're not a parent until you've held a child in your arms that's yours. Even if you adopt it, that is your child. You're a parent. But that is what solidifies you as a parent. And it's not because I'm trying to give a jab towards people. No way. One of those things I've always had in an argument,

just because you have a dog does not make it your child Yes I know you love your dog like a child But if it came to it You ask me right now I will choose my children over my dog You'd eat your dog if it came down to it Yes I would Yes I would

You'd keep your kids in a box And leave them all day Right exactly Come and get you. Exactly. Yeah. You gotta, you gotta,

you've got to consider a life. You've got to consider a life that, you know, is going to outlast you with a dog. It's like, we got 10 good years, 12 good years, whatever.

And then my responsibility to this animal is gone. But it's like we got 10 good years, 12 good years, whatever. And then my responsibility to this animal is gone. But it's like you have to craft a future for this baby that's going to become an adult one day and want to have its own kids maybe. And all that, some of that rests on your shoulders. It's a whole different thing. But in the same way, and like you said, it's not about jabbing people who didn't have kids. In the same way, because we've had kids, we couldn't even understand how to live a life without the kids. You know what I mean? At our age. No, it's funny that you would say that because I was talking to a friend and I was talking to her and I was telling her, you know, I couldn't imagine going back to a life before children.

It would take months. Right. It's once I had my son, my entire world changed and there was no way of imagining my life without that child. So it's hit a point where even as a prepper, I have to do whatever I have to to make sure my child outlives me no matter what. Right. I mean, just imagine waking up on a Saturday, whenever the hell you wanted, and basically going like, what exactly am I going to do with my day today? I mean, that's just a life that you can't even fathom hardly as a parent, you know? And then there's some people who live that life exclusively.

It's a wild thing. Right. But, you know, once you have children, it changes your whole outlook on the entire world. Well, I think you start looking at the world. You know, before I had kids, I don't know how much world-looking I even did. You know, it was a pretty narrow view, my life was. You know, it was like, how can I get ahead at work? How can I be better?

You know, I, I, I, what am I going to do this weekend with my money? You know what I mean? It wasn't like, what's going on in the Middle East? What the hell? You know, I could care you know i could care less i could care less but what are they on tv that our children are watching you know we didn't care then no no way i care in front of my children you know i care what's being taught in schools right exactly all that stuff all that stuff who cares you know if you're a parent i mean if you're

not a parent right now you're probably like yeah this is great keep the kids stuff who cares you know if you're a parent i mean if you're not a parent right now you're probably like yeah this is great keep the kids out of school you know you're not even thinking about what effect it's going to have on future generations i mean some people are but you know but anyhow we're getting a little too far afield i think for a prepper's life on parenting parental psychology or whatever. But look, guys, definitely join us next week for the Preppers Live Christmas Party. I think we're going to have a ball. We will, like I said, this time next week,

we'll probably all need a break because I'm sure this electoral college shit is going to go haywire. So bring some drink and bring some celebratory attitude chat listeners bring some questions and some games and stuff make it fun you know we're gonna do our part you guys do your part and and we'll have a ball um obviously we can't do a digital gift exchange well maybe we can do a digital gift exchange let me think that. I think the listeners should pick a word that they know we're frequent for using and make a drinking game out of it.

Oh, there you go. That could be a good one. That could be a good one. All right, Jay Ferg. Well, thanks so much for joining us as usual on a Monday. I do appreciate it. It's all good. I'm just glad to be on here.

Oh, we're glad to have you back on saturdays it's so good it's so good having that family affair back i i love having it so uh i guess we hit the road thanks so much pbn family and we'll talk soon thank you for listening to the prepper broadcasting network where we promote self-reliance and independence. Tune in tomorrow for another great show and visit us at prepperbroadcasting.com.