The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Preppers LIVE: Uncle Joe's Army with Dave Jones

Episode Date: January 3, 2025

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you're listening to pbm you're paying back the stability Beautiful intro, huh, Dave Jones? Yeah, I really like that. Who's that guy with the headphones on? I don't know, but he's a cool cat. I'll have to introduce you to him sometime. Well, thanks. That was a cool speech, too, way oh okay fn in 1911 i think it was fn 1911 right yeah in their handgun yeah you were talking

shotguns or or about tall shotguns before we started this show on Uncle Joe. Yeah. Well, let me do this. Happy New Year, everyone out there in radio listening land. And New Year's over. Keep prepping. There you go. We're in it, and let's get in it, right? Yeah. Everybody made sure we knew we were in it right off the bat.

Yeah. What a new year. Gosh. in it right off the bat yeah what a new year gosh so um okay the reason i haven't been on lately is because i lost my phone i've misplaced it somewhere that has all the speaker setups and my music and everything on there and it's a phone that i haven't used it's like two phones back so that's how old this phone is that you're on right now no no this is my this is my current phone but the phone that i lost that's why i've been doing daily audio caches and no one's heard from me since i don't know when um so that's the reason behind that right but i've been getting these impressions these feelings

that i need to talk about firearms and uh shotguns in particular but i want to tell everybody my thoughts on if you can only get one firearm a 22 long rifle would be my go-to one if you can only get one firearm and yeah the 22 long rifle versatility you can hunt small game you can hunt just about anything ammo is inexpensive you can carry 50 rounds in a little box like that in your pocket. I mean, just about everybody has a 22 in their house. If you're foraging for ammunition, it's readily available. So that's my number one. My number two is a 12 gauge shotgun. And that's for just everything. All around defense, hunting, you know, you can hunt with rifles, slugs, big deer, whatever. 12-gauge shotgun is my number two. And then I don't know why I've been on this gun thing, but with the way things are going,

you want to talk about the events that are going on right now? Yeah. First, I want to say Firewolf Forge, Hunter SF reads Ravitary, says Happy New Year to everybody. Yay. In chat. Jay Fergie's in chat as well. Firewolf Forge asks, what's the survival one? The AR-7.

I want like four of those. Is he talking about like the breakdown? Yeah. Damn thing. It's the name of the company. Yep. It used to be Charter Arms. And now it's Henry. henry owns yeah they own the design for it it's uh it's a a semi-automatic shotgun that all breaks down

goes in the stock and the stock actually floats if you fall off your boat it will float It was first Yeah it was first Featured in 007 From Russia With Love Oh really Yeah he has that That gun That's like one of those

I feel like that gun Is one of those things that every prepper wants And I don't know almost anybody who has one they are sweet yep we had them in alaska they were part of our survival kit that we went to the field with um you know it just it just was in the occhio yeah that was the sled that we would pull with our yeah yeah, we would pull this sled. And then we got some snowmobiles and we hooked them on the back of the snowmobile and they pulled themselves. He said enough of this pooling business. Yeah.

But what about shotguns in particular? Well. I said to you that every night before bed I think about a shotgun because I keep one close by at nighttime. And there's a bunch of ways you can keep ammo on your shotgun. But a couple years ago I decided that a bandolier would be the way to go, a bandolier sling for the shotgun itself. And it just fits, just just works not too heavy you know yeah and you kind of perked up and started writing something down and i didn't know if you had more on that topic or not well i i wanted to say you know a pump action shotgun not that an automatic

is bad automatic's great but your pump action, you can, you can repair it and get parts for it and fix it better than an automatic. So less things to go wrong. And, and they're just doing so much with shotguns nowadays, tactical shotguns. I mean that Caltech, that that's an amazing you know if you got about

a little pup yeah yeah is sweet man caltech's got some cool guns i'll tell you oh yeah i i always wanted to get my hands on one of those sub 3000s yeah notice sub 3000. yeah it just looks like folds in half yeah it's like a 99 millimeter or 45 and folds right in half and just right in the backpack right in the backpack i think it takes glock magazines also yep that's really to be honest with you that depending on how this year shakes out that might be the kind of thing lots of us are carrying by the three to six month mark if things keep going the way they're going. Yeah. And I have a list of things that if you're into the current threat situation, you know, people like action items, things that they can actually do to kind of make a difference in the situation. And I'm going to make a prediction right now that I think that an armed American will thwart a terrorist attack this year.

It's a great prediction. Yeah. That's a great prediction. Yeah. That's a great prediction. Yeah, I see this nothing but going up. I mean, we've talked about this a bunch of times in the past. How many people are in these different cities? And why did the government fly them in? And I look back over the past year, which by the way, your compilation was amazing.

Wasn't Dane D's show incredible about counting up all the guys who came across the border and spreading them out to the command? I knew I had to put that one in. And it was funny that you and I were Thinking about it at the same time Yeah It's like we're on some and that's not the first time That's happened

It's like we had Some kind of a mind meld going on there And I said Hey it would be a great long show If you put these things together And you said And I didn't understand it at first but you were working on it right then and I'm like, yeah Well, I don't want to do I did want to do your Gotham get out long form I still got to do that. But yeah took me a long time just that right there

Yeah, I was I was probably 101 fever knocking that thing out. Oh I was willing myself through that. You know what I mean? I was like, oh I'll be feel way better if I get this done. Even if I don't feel better. I'll feel better. You know what I mean? Yeah, I got had all the shows I went and found them all and I was just like this year was just too good like This is gonna be such a great collection yeah and looking back on it you know it was a banner year oh it was man it was crazy the the 30 days of preps yeah those those you could put all together if it wasn't for the intro and the uh the outro yeah and then uh just the whole coverage of the flood and prepper camp and gosh that that was amazing right you know what i left out completely and i had the show see i did the whole thing as a video and i was gonna run the video live on all the platforms oh but the video was like eight hours

of video wow and when i went to start adding the video clip that i was gonna do like copy copy copy copy paste paste paste paste across the whole thing yeah i broke the whole clip champ program so when i broke it it was like you know you get the wheel and it's like processing processing and it said you can close or you can wait and i waited a while and then it didn't come back and then i closed it and i was like maybe it auto saved and it didn't auto save so then i had to start all over again yeah I had to start all over again. Yeah. You were getting video from everybody.

Yeah. That's right. But in the midst of that, here was the problem. I left out Tina. I left out Lisa, rather. I left out the SoCal Prepper. It was a big piece the so yeah it was a big what was a segment of the year when she came on and did some interviews about the space prepping then she even wound up doing a couple of her own show and i i kind of left her out completely on that but other than that i think

it was pretty good collection oh yeah it was it was amazing just Just all of it. I listened to pretty much all of it all over the weekend. Been working here, 15 puppies, all that kind of stuff. We're pretty dry on eggs now. Oh, nice.

I like that, man. Powdered egg. Everything egg, Dave Jones. Everything. It's working good. oh nice i like that man powdered egg yeah yeah everything egg dave jones everything well it's working good we get about 20 eggs a day and then um you know we can put a dozen in a tray and then they if you could run down and get me a pack i could show it here this is video she's gonna get me a pack so i can show you what what a dozen eggs look like and they're about five ounces when they're when they're all freeze dried and packaged i mean it's it's the way to go.

So we can freeze dry these. And long after we are not able to keep chickens anymore, we can say, yeah, I got eggs. Yeah, good eggs. Top quality, too. Yeah, that's great. I love that. You know, powdered eggs is something that I buy. Yeah, and these.

Long-term food storage. And it's expensive. Yeah, all she does is. Right there. I got to let one cough rip real quick. I'm going to go off camera, but show them off. Talk them up. Go ahead.

So there's each tray will hold a dozen eggs. And when a tray is done, this is what it looks like. So that's a dozen eggs and it's about five, six ounces. Easy to carry all the nutrition last 25 years. I told Maria she can make a big pot of stew and we can freeze dry it. make a big pot of stew and we can freeze dry it and Deanna can give it to her kids and say your grandmother made this stew for you yeah so you you guys are doing you could do one dozen eggs in the in what is it freeze dried and then yeah back sealed back sealed and freeze dried okay yeah we got the medium freeze dryer it was the one that had the

you know the most bang for the buck for the tray size and then a dozen eggs will fit in it all you got to do is like beat them up a little yeah break them and put them in there and they'll freeze dry like this and then you just scrape it out of the tray now something that they don't tell you is that freeze dryer gets incredibly hot so we only do um freeze drying when it's cold because we have it on the out porch which we normally call our walk-in refrigerator, but when the freeze dryer's going, it heats that whole out porch up. Yeah. Oh, I gotcha.

How about that? Emergency heat source. Yeah. Hey, I've been thinking about that, too. So, if I get a kerosene heater at the end of this season, get it on sale, which, by the way, PBN listeners, check out all the clearances.

January is huge because they got to sell their inventory between now and the end of January, or they have to inventory it and count it and report it back to the IRS. And it becomes 2025 inventory, yeah yeah so right now you can get all kinds of deals i mean spend those gift cards yeah what was that where was that going on that you were going to talk about kerosene heat. Yeah. So if I get a kerosene heater, at the end of this season, I will have six ways to heat the house. Very nice. And I was thinking about electricity. So I have two generators. One of them is multifuel. I have a solar generator.

I have three Jackeries. I have probably 600-watt solar panels. solar panels. So what I'm thinking about now is figuring out how many different ways I can produce electricity. And I have 2,000 watt inverters, which I know my tractor will hook one of them up. And I'm pretty sure David's go-kart, which produces 12 volts okay

i'm pretty sure i can hook it up to that so i have two different ways to make electricity off of diesel and gasoline so once the tractor's diesel and then i have the solar generator. So that's three ways. Yeah. Solar grabbing capacity. Yep. So that's three ways to make electricity. Yeah.

Okay. So I'm working on that now. Yeah. I love that. The tiered approach to preparedness is one of my favorite things i that's how i like to sleep at night is knowing that i got options you know this thing breaks we got options this thing doesn't work you know you you've probably been there with a generator you go out there and crank a generator this thing ain't turning on what's wrong you know we lost power twice over

this break oh yeah yeah yeah just uh random or was it weather related or what weather weather you know got warm a lot of rain and then the wind started blowing and trees fall down. That's it. The big boys come down. So what do you think? Is this just the beginning of Uncle Joe's army or you think this is a hiccup in the system? No, I think it's just the beginning. And there's some really strange things. Really strange things. First of all, both of them are military. That's strange in itself. I don't know if it's strange.

But it did scare the shit out of me when I read it. Yeah. The one guy's Special Forces. He ain't. Yeah. Okay, that's strange right there. Another thing, that whole Las Vegas thing is an anomaly unto itself. Why would you choose a Tesla Cybertruck, which you know is tracked from the time it comes off the assembly line until it blows up right yeah you can't even you can't even put gas in the thing or electric in the thing without them knowing exactly where

you're at you they know everything about that truck so why would you choose that as opposed to the cheapest ass toyota that you can rent. Yeah. That, that is a purpose. Not only that it's bulletproof. It's like, if you want to blow something up, you need something that's going to blow up. And then the guy die in there.

Did he get out? He was shot in the head before the explosion. And they know this, okay, from the autopsy. In the vehicle? In the vehicle. Now, there's got to be video of that, okay? I'm thinking, what is all this? There's a reason behind all of this.

This is too bizarre. The bomb, okay, was so amateuristic, I can't even tell you. Okay? I'm not a special forces guy, and I could have made a better bomb than that. Well, now that's interesting. Now that is an interesting point. Yeah. Why string together some junk and put junk into a $100,000 cyber truck?

That won't blow up. Right. I mean, if you wanted to go about limiting the amount of casualties you could possibly produce and have an evidence trail that's irrefutable. This is the way you would do it. Sounds like suicide. That's my day. When I read about that, rent the car, put the bomb in it, drive it up and put a big show on with a Tesla outside of Donald Trump's Vegas location. It sounds like one of those.

They need a name for those suicides. Those suicides need a name. Yeah, but this suicide, there's way more to it than just suicide. Yeah. If the guy wanted to go out. Suicide by cop. This was not. There is a statement. There is evidence all in that.

I mean you don't get a special forces. E8. Okay. To do something like this. I mean if that's who it is. it is they said the body was burnt beyond recognition and there is a point where they can't recover dna uh back when i was with the uh joint personal effects depot first of all all military people today their dna is on file okay used to be panorex dental records now they actually have your DNA can you rock this for like three four minutes sure okay give me a sec go ahead so

um everybody that's in the military to now today has their DNA on file. So when the plane went down in Nova Scotia or Newfoundland, something like that, they started to do panorexes for everybody in the military because they couldn't identify everybody that was on this plane that went down. they couldn't identify everybody that was on this plane that went down. So dental records was the choice back then. And now it's DNA and you can get DNA off of just about anything. But if you're in a fire that burns at high heat for a long period of time, it can destroy and you won't get enough DNA from it. I know this from a person that needed to be identified in the Iraqi war. He was in a Bradley fighting vehicle and it burnt for a long, long period of time at high heat. long period of time at high heat and they did not get positive identification because of that so there's just too many strange things with this las vegas

bomb it it's just too odd of an anomaly that it doesn't make any sense. That's one thing. And then the one in New Orleans, you know, if you want to kill a lot of people, apparently a pickup truck is the way to do it these days. Driving into a crowd of people. Who knew? It's better than an automatic weapon. But that guy also had weapons. There's reports of IEDs that were being placed. The one thing I know for sure,

you have to question what the FBI tells you as being the truth. Because these guys are coming out right? We're probably going to get banned on YouTube now. I mean, they come out and they say, oh, it's not a terrorist attack. Anybody that looks at his social media knows it's a terrorist attack. He's got an ISIS flag

on the back of the truck. I mean, give me a break. They'd be better off to say nothing. I don't understand why they don't opt to say nothing. Come out and say this is what happened. It happened here. The investigation is ongoing.

But to come out and say things like, oh, it's related it's not this it's not that i think when that when trump got shot and i'm sitting here with my wife an atf guy came on and said we know it's not a slingshot i swear on everything that i hold dear in life, this ATF nut comes on and says we're pretty sure it wasn't a slingshot. I mean, me and my wife were just dying. We were dying laughing and we're saying, like, who hires these people? Well, and even Christopher Wray, when he was questioned, he says something like we're not sure it was a gun, a rifle. And I'm like, what? What else makes that noise?

And kills people in the audience. Yeah, right, right. What else was it? A BB gun? Yeah. The guy died in front of his wife from a.17 caliber tungsten freaking pellet. Yeah. These are the people in charge of protecting us.

They can't tell the difference between a slingshot and a 5.56 round. Five out of a carbine. It's amazing. But, you know, like I said, it's an age of mediocrity we're pulling out of, Dave Jones. I do think we're pulling out of it at certain levels but we have become very accustomed to mediocre people in very high places and yeah and this is what we get this is what you get you know what i mean when you have people who are who don't belong in a job that they're in doing that job over time even smart people even

people who are paying attention get used to it you You get used to like, oh, okay. You don't know nothing. All right. You know? Yeah. You can't see the writing on the wall. But, yeah. So I think for the year I'm going to refer to these acts of terror and the people who perpetrate them as members of Uncle Joe's army

because of what we talked about earlier, the amount of people who've come here. Well, the car came here from across the border, right? The car that killed the people? Well, they know that it had traversed the border. Yeah. Because they have evidence. They scan your license plate, they take pictures, and they know that it came across the border. Yeah. Because they have evidence, you know, they scan your license plate, they take pictures, and they know that it came across the border. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

So that, you know. Eagle Pass. Yep. Is what I saw. Yeah, and it's just too many things that are just crazy, crazy bizarre and questionable. You know, if they have these IEDs, who planted those? What do you mean the IEDs? Are you talking I-85 now? No, no.

They had explosives planted throughout Bourbon Street. Oh. And New Orleans. And they found other people that were planting these bombs. And then they came out and said, we're looking for other suspects. And now they say, no, he was all by himself. And it's like, what changed? What changed?

Man. Yeah. This stuff is what I don't understand. I don't understand if it's purposeful. If the response is purposeful. Because it seems like even, and again, it could be mediocre people in high places, but it seems like you would have to care a little bit like we're gonna piss these people off if we keep telling them bullshit every time we're on tv you know if we tell people

every time we're on tv it was 15 guys maybe it was 15 guys there's 16 bombs nope it was one guy and he's dead we can't ask him any questions case closed yeah like people are gonna start saying well maybe i'll just take matters into my own hands next time i see a strange guy walking around with a bag full of bombs you know what i mean yeah yeah he'd tell if they want that or if they just suck so much that this is how they do business. Seems impossible to me, though, to be the latter. Well, if you look back, you know, defund the police, Black Lives Matter. You know, this was all designed to cripple police departments all across the country and every major city.

They can't get people to be police officers. And if they're the ones that are going to respond to whatever they have planned, okay, because the October 7th, the one in Israel, the police were the ones that responded, not the military. Right. So here's what I'm the terrorists learn. They develop tactics. They know our response. They know our rules of

engagement. They exploit them whenever they can. They'll house command and control ammunition in religious you know mosques and stuff like that knowing that we can't bomb them they'll do everything they can and the Mumbai attacks was a major shift in the way terrorist operations occur. And this was, they did recon and intelligence on multiple targets. And then they let these guys go in there like commandos and choose and decide. And they were armed. choose and decide and they were armed and if something happened

that they wanted to change targets, they had the they didn't have to call and get approval. They were totally autonomous and they fought until the last man. So those things right there, they know that we barricade and start negotiations they know that right but what we didn't know is that they're going to fight to the last guy right so that so that barricading and start negotiations. They have no need for negotiations.

Right. They came to die. Yeah. So those kind of attacks are what's going to be perpetrated next. And a lot larger scale. So what can you do? Carry extra ammo. You're already carrying extra ammo.

Also, a tactical knife. Not a knife that's on a multi-tool. Something that you can actually use in a combat situation. Because the knife might be the only thing you have To save your life I'll tell you one thing I learned about knives. You probably learned about it when you were 20 It took me a while to learn this And I don't have an example right? Oh, oh, I do have an example, but it's a touchy. It's a touchy example. I Don't know if I probably can't show it on YouTube.

I don't know if I can show it on air. I live in Richmond. You've got to understand my father-in-law is born and raised in Richmond, his father before him and his father before him. I don't have to show you. But the one thing I didn't realize about all my cool folding knives is um a knife without a a hilt yeah just all of a sudden started scaring me to death because i started thinking if it's if my hand gets sweaty yeah or it gets covered in blood right and almost all the folding knives that i

have my knife is going to go in and then it's going to cut my hand if i'm jabbing you know what i mean yeah if you if you stab something and hit a bone yeah up the knife cut the hand right right yeah so keep that in mind because that was something only up until a couple years ago. I have a lot of knives, but I didn't calculate if this really gets kinetic, these things are going to

probably hurt me more than somebody else. Or at least put me in a situation where now I got extra wounds just from my own knife. You know what I mean? Not only that, if these terror attacks escalate, which I think they're going to,

they're going to be body armored up. Oh, that's a good point. Yeah. They're, they're going to be, uh, so a tactical knife,

you know, whereas a gun is great. there's no substitution, okay? But, you know, you may want to carry a tactical fighting knife as part of your EDC. Yeah, and you know, for urban and suburban, this is something to consider too, and it's a problem that I haven't shored up yet. But I've been thinking about it a lot. There are times and there are trips when the shorter pistol 5.56 will come into the truck. You know what I mean? Yeah. six will come into the truck you know what i mean yeah and and it's not a long-term solution

because i worry about it getting lifted yeah because even if it's in a locked gun case somebody could still break your windows out take your locked gun case they'll open it you know or steal your whole vehicle for that yeah i mean i think that's probably less likely in my neck of the woods i don't know what car thefts are like and everywhere everybody else lives what i most worry about is someone going through the car taking the rifle case so what i've been thinking about is a system that would hold the gun in, in place in a way that, you know, you would need keys to get it loose or, you know, something along those, something severely secure. Yeah. Yeah.

We need to have magnetic locks that, you know, we, when, back when police cars carried shotguns, okay. Cause I don't see them anymore. I don't know what they use. When I was a state trooper in Alaska, I carried a 7.62 in my trunk. It was actually an H& k uh model 91. it was no it was a it was a semi-automatic 308 yeah h and k but you know in alaska you could dispatch a bear a moose you you needed to have something like that thunder with a semi-automatic 308 man yeah and then when we were talking about weapons and i i did 22 and then 12 gauge

and then i would do a nine millimeter before i do an ar and simply because 9mm is the most plentiful round in the world. Yeah. Your thought process on guns is almost exactly mine. The only thing I would change is 12 gauge first because it's cheaper. No, not really, is it? 22 is probably, and a shotgun is probably about the same yeah yeah hands down what gets me the 22 being first is you can carry a hundred rounds yeah that's a good point in your pocket that's a good one and those hundred rounds even even because they're they're small

if you get bang bang bang bang bang bang going off Yeah People are going to duck their heads In my neck of the woods I went 12 gauge first Before I got a 22 Because Home invasion was the thing You know what I mean I didn't really have much to do with a 22 rifle

When I bought my shotgun I wasn't even really hunting yet The shotgun was 100% two-legged foes yeah i could definitely see it yeah now if i look back i probably would say get that 22. well i mean you know there's a difference between Prepperdom and home defense. So, you know, if you're in prepperdom, 22 makes all kinds of sense. Oh, yeah. Especially if you're keeping animals.

Yeah, if you're hunting. If you're dealing with freaking predators. Good God almighty. And dispatching small animals or even teaching someone how to shoot well that's yeah that's critical 22 there's no substitute yeah and then and then nine millimeter and then an ar ar platform either in uh 5.56 or 7.62 and then whatever you do standardize it across the board so if if you're gonna have a nine millimeter and your wife's gonna have a nine millimeter have the same nine millimeter so you can share magazines oh yeah that's their mo if hers breaks you can cannibalize parts from yours to make hers work.

You know, standardize as much as you can, even down to the multi-tool. And I'll tell you this. So I carry this cheapy multi-tool all the time. Yeah. And it has a certain widget on it. And it has a certain widget on it. Now that multi-tool has broken, okay, because it was a cheapie. And I got the Gerber that I'm carrying right now, and it doesn't have the same widgets. And I'm like, oh.

I know. Yeah. Yeah. I'll tell you what. I bought a cheapie multi-tool, too too it was a two-pack yeah red from tractor supply yeah we're going on god we're probably going on eight seven eight years now and my son's doesn't work i bought it a two-pack specifically because there was a big one and there was a a big one and a little one.

My son was probably five or something like that at the time. I said, you're going to get the little one. I'm going to get the big one. We'll have the same one. He put his in his tackle box. Years and years and years went by. I've had to tighten some things on it.

The thing still works. It's in my car right now. It's amazing. It still works after all these years. I think that both of them were $15. I can't tell you. We have a procedure here. I tell them this. The rest of them. They're going to each have a belt and when they go outside the door this is what's gonna be on that belt and they're supposed to strap that on and

take it with them one of them is a firearm a nine millimeter uh a multi-tool, and a camp knife, a knife that they can, a fixed blade that they can do stuff with. And that is the minimum that you will carry in an SHTF situation inside the perimeter. I like it. Yeah. I like it. Maybe a two-way. Well, yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Everybody has radios. Oh, so that's outside of the belt. They already got it. Yeah. Because inside the perimeter, we're using family band. Yeah. And then anybody that goes outside, we use GMRS. that goes outside, we use GMRS. There you go. Okay. And the family band is, you know, less power and it just operates within the perimeter. And the GMRS, we have base stations and it can go up to, five, six miles. More than that, if you hit the repeater, and of course, we have ham to monitor. I have CB radios.

I have scanners. Yeah. And you're in a great spot. Yeah. You'll probably hear all kinds of stuff when you click them babies on it because you're up there. Yeah. I bet you get a lot of stuff up there. I'm in a valley. It's a little bit of a of a i gotta get out there in the world to hear anything but yeah it's good that's

good the i definitely want to i definitely want to solidify uh well there's a couple things i want to solidify this year and it all it's all going to help in these sort of situations um one of them is that sort of long distance emergency comms situation you know what i mean yeah that long distance no no cell service no whatever you know because we've the thing about these attacks is they're so lame. And that's what makes me think that they're even less than preliminary. You know what I mean? They're old tactics. Just old, tired things we've seen done 10 years now yeah you know like

car bomb and a guy ramming people and then getting out and well he shot with the police you know what i mean like there's no you don't when these attacks happen you never go like oh that i wouldn't have thought of that you know what i mean and i just have to think that like something doesn't line up with that with me dave because i listen to people i know for a fact that there's been muslim training facilities tactical training facilities in the united states for as long as i've been doing podcasts so it's 12 years now or something like that they can't be sitting up there all day going then you drive the car into the people and then you shoot with the police until you're dead yeah class is over you know what i mean like right the

drones have to get involved multi-men operations like. Like, when I see these things, I go, like, this may be something, but this is not the something that anybody with half a brain has been planning. Yeah. Because in five minutes, I could scrawl a better use of time and people and effort than ram your car in there with a flag on it and get killed. Yeah. So that's what makes me nervous about these attacks is I don't look at them and go like, oh, we're wearing them down. You know what I mean? Yeah.

I don't know. Doesn't blow me away, in other words. I mean, it's a terrible tragedy. Don't get me wrong. It's just from the standpoint of watching what terrorists are up to, it's like this can't be the – this is definitely not the B team even. No. And what makes me nervous and worry about cell service and that kind of stuff

is I think that the B team and the A team is going to come with lots of explosives, explosive air warfare with drones and i think they're going to be able to take out power and you know wi-fi and stuff like that to an area yeah because you know cell towers are just that cell towers and if you take those towers, let's say you have one team that just takes care of towers. Yeah. They identify like five different towers that are critical to communications within an area. Then you have another team. Man, maybe I shouldn't be saying this.

Another team that takes care of electricity in an area. If Al-Qaeda is getting paid, what is it, $100 million a month or something from the U.S. government, you're not going to divulge anything they haven't thought of. Yeah. But you have all these different teams, and they're assigned their missions to the overall support of whatever the combat operation is so they go and execute independently all on their own and then the the combat unit takes out their target i mean it's yeah yeah it makes sense this is what i mean when i watch these attacks happen i go this is not the real show you know what i mean right right this is not even the opening act like this is the guy

outside while you're in line for the show who bangs on the five gallon drums for a dollar tip yeah yeah so we see very poorly prepared for the guy with the five gallon bucket drum. I don't know what we would do against what you're talking about. Yeah. Especially when you consider the people that are going to respond to that are your local sheriffs, your local police department that they're woefully unprepared to go up against someone in body armor that has multiple weapon systems, highly trained, has hand grenades.

Yeah. They are just nothing more Than targets So let's go over Some more of the stuff So I have avoided large crowds But you can't always do that

So then you have to You have to what if yourself Oh yes So you go into let's say A movie theater and you say, what if the power goes off? There's the exit. What if, you know, identify multiple exits. Be aware of the people that are in there. That's going to be a problem.

That person in a wheelchair is going to trip everybody up if we try and get them out first. Do you know what I mean? Sure, yes. If that wheelchair gets stuck on the stairs leading out of the theater, no one else is going to get around it, and everybody's going to get hurt. Just stuff like that. What if? What if? What if? And then converse with the people you're there with also on that. Yeah. Right. Right. Family and stuff. If you're in the, if your family's there, you have to talk about

the what if. And you say if the power goes off there's the exit right there you head for the exit you know yeah yeah i mean it would i don't do this but nowadays it wouldn't be bad to probably go find those exits while you're in your car before you enter yeah that way you could say you know the this back of this this building is where the exits are so when you come out you're going to come out of one of these doors this is what you're going to see go left or go right to get to the main lot where the car is don't just assume the main lot is safe. So you got to do some, you know, some recon before you go run into the family vehicle. Yep. And if you just keep asking yourself, what if, what if, what if?

And, you know, do you have a little flashlight? I mean, other than your phone. Okay. Do you have a little flashlight? I have one that I carry in all my coat pockets. I have a little flashlight. Yeah, a little light or something like that. Yeah.

Yeah. Lights go out. It happens. There's no doubt about it. And if you have a flashlight, that means you're probably, I'd say you're probably about five seconds ahead of everyone else getting to the exit, which is huge. In order for you to pick this up, click it, flip the screen, find the flashlight,

turn the flashlight on. By the time you do that, if Dave Jones is here, here, and his family's already moving to the... They're going to be out safe long before you guys, so keep that in mind. Yeah.

I mean, you just have to take yourself through a scenario. At one time, I was a security guard and I was guarding $2 million in gold.

This was in a shopping mall and we had a power failure. And of course, I am the only one there with a flashlight inside a shopping mall. No windows, no nothing. Just the single emergency light, you know, to show you where the exit is and how to get out.

So, you know, show you where the exit is and how to get out so i you know i turned the flashlight on and i told it i told the guys put put the gold away and they they put it all away locked it up just in case someone's going to do a snatch and grab and run and yeah flashlight well that's a big one no doubt about it that's a big one. No doubt about it. That's a big one for sure. The dark is a whole different thing. And who knows, you know, darkness could be used against us too. Yeah. You know, night vision is a thing.

Night vision is a thing that people can afford and I'm sure terrorists can afford it. Yeah. Get that Iran money from Joe. Oh my gosh. They can afford some headsets. They'll be good to go in the dark. I've experienced this where you get with a group of people and you train with them over a period of time. You get to know every little thing about them to where you can communicate

without even talking. Okay. And if you think about that, five people, well-trained, well-organized, I mean, it's going to be an incredible force. It's a terrifying thing. On a place like a mall full of people who are not even paying attention to the person three steps ahead of them. That's the situation

that's the most terrifying situation that we haven't seen in this country. Maybe one day a book will come out about all the amazing heroes at work that found these groups and took care of them long before they ever made a move but there's just so many here now i know they're here they have to be here you know what i mean after what's happened over the last four years they have to be here yeah who wouldn't send them

here if we had an enemy like america and we really felt the way that we that iran feels about america and we found out oh by the way their back doors are just open yeah you know what our military would do yep we would be filing all kinds of people in that country. Yep. We'd be infiltrating just constantly. And they did too. The only thing, we're in the reactive

mode. Yeah. So we're going to have to react to whatever they've already established is the plan. But just know that any little chink in that chain can disrupt the whole thing. It doesn't have to be another 9-11. Right. Yeah.

The thing that keeps coming back to me, Dave, and it always comes back to me dave and it always it always comes back to this is what people think of the average american across the world right you know like i was watching one of my favorite movies is lincoln with daniel day lewis oh yeah i almost can't i almost can watch it like ad nauseam yeah everybody's in it so damn good and then you know context and everything that's going on it's so good um but i don't remember who's talking about it but one of them is one of the guys is in his cabinet is talking about the guys in his cabinet is talking about how the British think that the Americans are crazy and gruff and rude. And I started thinking like, what do people think Americans are now? And I think that we have to change that image back to more dangerous yes and scary yeah and sort of Wild West you

know everybody's carrying a gun and and you don't know what the hell an American's gonna do I think that the terrorists look over here and see lazy overweight weak easy targets weak yeah dumb yep you know no faith heathens yeah and i think that's sort of the you know what i mean that's sort of part of it the reason people are flowing in with nefarious uh ideas and things like that is because they don't perceive the average american as a threat and i really think that we have to get back to the average American being a threat because it also would help with domestic crime. Oh, yeah. The reason domestic crime is so out of control

because the average dude walking down the street, they know if I start punching a woman in the face, the average guy is going to go, let me get it on, friend, yo. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's going to rip your head off. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rip your head off.

You know what I mean? Dude. That was only 10, 15 years ago. That was how that went. Like, oh, you're just going to start punching on a girl. Some dude is going to show up and make you pay for that. Oh, absolutely. Some guy pulls over his Buick and hops out.

And you better hope he's driving alone. Well, I got to tell you, two times in my lifetime, I have chased down shoplifters and held them for the police. Exactly. I mean, I pull up, this guy comes bolting out of Kmart and I'm like, he just stole that. And I drove the car around. He went into the next parking lot. Okay. I parked the car.

Now, he's already run the length of Kmart's parking lot. So, he's tired. I know he's tired out. Yeah. So, when I park the car and start after him, I'm fresh. Yeah. Oh, that's smart, man. Yeah.

And I said, look, I can run two, three, four more miles. Yeah. Oh, that's smart, man. Yeah. And I said, look, I can run two, three, four more miles. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good feeling. That's why I run so much, PBN family, because I want to know in my head when it matters. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's a good feeling.

But, yeah, it all goes back. All this stuff goes back to that. And I think, you know, we could do more at the I don't know, at the police level or at the intelligence level or definitely could do more at the border. But I really do think a lot of it's going to come down to what what the average person is willing to do and willing to carry and willing to learn so that you the world at large can look at americans and say you know for all their faults they're ready if you come to do something crazy yeah they all carry guns and they all can shoot them and they don't like terrorists that's the other thing too the world has come become so comfortable with america being fundamentally tolerant yeah i also think the world thinks well the americans will just tolerate anything. You can go over there and do whatever the hell you want to do. You can cook fish on a

shopping cart over a fire and they'll be like, yeah, it's culture. You can eat the pets. You can eat these people's pets. It's okay. Yeah, they're very tolerant over there. Those have all created this atmosphere where guys get in their car and

go i'm just gonna go ram some people to death you know because i mean just imagine 1950s new orleans you ram some people with your car not to mention your skin's a little darker than everybody else it's like it was a different world back then they would stroll you up before the cops even got there the cops would be running to save the guy yeah they'd be like don't kill him yet you know what i mean yeah oh we got to change that i mean not we don't need to become animals but we what we've become is just there's no threat there anymore and you can tell you can tell when you see the enemies sort of creeping up in the periphery the wolves at the at the woods edge you know what i mean they're looking in at the flock going like oh these are all nice

and tender moist and tender little vittles here yeah so that's a big part of it all comes down to us you know and what we're willing to do what we're willing to teach the next generation to do we've got to get people away from this fear of things that go boom this idea of of banning firearms in a country like can you imagine that there's anybody in the world that's watching what just happened over the last few days and still going you know if we just got rid of guns in America and the nearest really have their way with us yeah yeah I'm sure Canada I bet if they put it up for a vote Canada would want to be the 51st state. Yeah. They're going to get it.

The UK is going to be... Well, you know what the UK is going to be? I'll say something crazy. The UK is going to go to war with the United States. Really? Oh, yeah.

Because the British are leaving. So what's going to happen is the Muslims are going to take over all facets of government and military. And then the United States is going to have to go to war with them because they have nuclear weapons. Wow. That's the only thing I can

see happening over there. I can't see the british having a a make london great again moment and you know what i mean i don't know it seems like these uh oh by the way an update from romania their president their president is not stepping down. The old guy. The old guy. And they have not held the elections. He suspended everything. Their parliament is trying to come up with something. But looks like he's on his way to being, you know.

Dictator. Yeah. For life. Yeah. That's sad for the Romanians, man, because they've had enough of that shit. Yeah. And don't give them a taste of democracy and then some guy comes along you don't like, so you say, oh, we'll just snatch that back. Yeah. I think that just as, you know, you say to yourself, how did Churchill and all these people

come together in World War II? It's that thing. Do great extraordinary times make extraordinary men who do extraordinary men seek extraordinary times. You know, which it's like the which came first, the chicken or the egg. And you have to say to yourself, you know, is Trump is the Trump effect worldwide because there's more conservatives winning their elections now than were. It's like this pendulum that swings, swings back and forth for the whole world. Definitely some of that. I think the threat profile has changed significantly. So in the early 2000s, it was like, we're fighting in the Middle East. Some amount of our military is fighting these guys in the Middle East.

And every time I see them, they got like, you know, half shirts on and they're driving in pickup trucks with machine guns mounted to them. Yeah. They ain't flinging anything even remotely close to my country. Right. You know what I mean? And I think that along with the immigration thing was just getting fired up. I think a lot of those nations had a very low threat profile and no need for some dude who's conservative to come in and get in the way of their big European party. Yep. With their naps and their long vacations and all that. And then all of a sudden threat profile changes.

And I think people go, okay, we better start taking stuff seriously again and get a military and, you know somebody who's gonna make some tough decisions because we gotta worry about something other than the baguettes now yeah i think that's i think a lot of it has to do with that you know yeah but i also think for for great men to exist they gotta do a little they gotta do a little front loading you know what i mean like you look at an elon musk like he he had to dedicate a lot of his time to becoming the person that he is in order to have the effect he's having let's just like donald trump you know yeah donald trump basically came to the job with 50 years experience at the highest level of deal making to become who you know who will likely

be the best deal making president in history yep you know you got to have that resume i think in times like these like it's almost like the cream rises to the top no matter what the truth is always there the cream rises to the top you know those things are just unstoppable rises to the top. Those things are just unstoppable. And with Churchill, it was a lot of the same thing. War hero, right? That kind of deal. A guy who was willing to speak out. Yeah.

I have a recommendation for anybody that Yellowstone 1883. Oh, my gosh. Is it good? Is it good? I'm loving it. I am loving it. Civil War is over. Reconstruction has begun.

I don't know how long Reconstruction took. That might be over. Yeah, but these, no, it's not over, but these people are headed west. Yeah. They were in the house. Whereabouts are they? They lived in Kentucky. They had a home, a farm, everything.

He fought in the Civil War. Okay. Was captured and spent his time in a northern Civil War camp. Yeah. Okay. And now they sold everything. He got the wagon and everything. Him and his wife and his two kids.

His girl is 17 and his boy is five. Cool adventure for a five-year-old as long as he doesn't get dysentery. You know what I mean? That's a cool adventure. And there's a lot of prepper stuff in there too. Oh, yeah. If you could pick it out. Don't drink the water.

You've got to boil it first. These people are getting sick because they're getting, you know, waterborne pathogens. I mean, it's really good. And then you say to yourself, would I do it that way? You know, because it's a whole nother world. It's great. It's a great. I've thought about that.

And you know what? Hey, it's probably good. Somebody's going to do it. I won't do it, it's probably going to somebody's going to do it. I won't do it because it's not going to be important enough to get done. And it would take a lot of money, but people would pay to do that. Yeah, people would pay to take two weeks. You know, they would pay the money. You get them. Maybe they have like their own buggy that they rent or buy a buggy and start at your property in Kentucky and walk or horse through some path that still exists. They pack their own supplies, their own thing, wear the clothes and do the whole reenactment sort of bit.

People would pay to do that. You know what I mean? Just to experience it. I'd do it it'd be fun there are actual cattle drives still going on that you can actually sign on and go do oh well there you go if you're really into this thing yeah yeah that'd be fun that'd be pretty cool yeah but but it would be cool to do it yourself. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like you show up at this property, they teach you a little bit, and then you buy your whatever gear you want to buy,

but it's all sort of like, you know, 1880s gear. Yeah. You know what I mean? And then you head out there and hit milestones along the way and see how long your food lasts, how long you can go. Yeah. Hey, did I tell you you this a shot is a shot yeah yeah with because a shot yeah a shot was 25 cents shot of whiskey and uh a bullet a 45

caliber bullet was worth 25 cents right yeah so a yeah, a cowboy would pull up. He wouldn't have any money. Yeah. I like that. But he'd tell the bartender, I'll take a shot. And he would trade a bullet for a shot of whiskey. And that's, that's why a shot is called a shot. That's a dangerous game. That, when I first learned that, I wondered how many cowboys were rolling with like two rounds of ammunition and just talking a big game because you know how it goes yeah you get it more having fun man you're gonna start putting them back and before you know it you're like dang revolvers only got two cartridges left I better call it a night yeah I started thinking about that I could see guys using up all their ammo

For a good time But I don't know man I think we did a pretty good job tonight What do you think Dave Yeah I think I covered all the notes that I have So you know Go back through your stuff Think about what you're carrying

EDC and say to yourself If I'm in this situation What would I need and you know there there's different things that you can do we used to call them rams random access measures and they're just things that changed up what you did and like here at the j Homestead, if we're without power for more than three days, I start carrying everywhere. Okay. You know, different things that you do to change things up. Yeah.

Yeah. I like that. Yeah. I like that. And another thing to consider on your drive to work and to school and that type of thing is where are the places that these things are likely going to happen even if you're not there? Right. You know what I mean? Because you could be near to a place that is a target, and it might just be a good idea to take a different route now to and from. Just from the sheer possibility.

If something like that happens, that route's going to be dead to you anyway. So at least know the alternate route. But there'll be plenty more of this stuff to come. I mean, these types of podcasts. And us giving you recommendations

and that kind of thing. Yeah, because I think this may be the first in a series. Yeah. Hopefully it doesn't become the COVID cast of the 2025 year. Hopefully we're not talking about terrorist attacks

every Monday night like we did with COVID numbers in 2020. Yeah. I appreciate it, Dave. It's an awesome night, man. Thanks for coming on. Always a pleasure. I'm glad you could do it on your couch tonight and just really be comfortable.

Yeah, I know you guys, you'll be probably a... I think it's soon time to feed the dogs. So... It's time to feed me, think but all right pbn family i appreciate it man it's good to be back i didn't do too bad tonight i thought i'd be hacking and coughing a little more so that's a good sign but stay tuned and look a lot of people are going to

be talking about this stuff i tell you to share this stuff with everybody because i want it to be popular and i want all the hosts to get the love for what they do yes but i also tell you to share with everybody because what dave and i just gave you is what everybody wants to know what the hell is going on what the hell am i supposed to do about it you know so share it around all right we will talk to you guys soon. Let me run an ad real quick for our wonderful sponsors. Let's see. Actually, no, I think we're going to run a disaster coffee ad.

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