The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Preppers LIVE - with DAVE JONES THE NBC GUY

Episode Date: June 4, 2024

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You're listening to PBN. You're playing back the stability here. Welcome to Preppers Live, PBN family. No introductions needed. If you heard my PBN Daily News, you got the heads up. But we're with Dave Jones, the NBC guy. And before we hit record, we were talking the first female president of Mexico being Jewish. And how that's going to play out, that ought to be an interesting tale. Is she a government plant from the U.S.? What do you think?

Israel? from the U.S.? What do you think? Israel. I don't know. I don't know. Much goes on in Mexico that the cartels don't know about or don't prove of. Yeah, that's the scariest part.

Yeah, I'm going into this with a little trepidation. That's the scary part. Imagine the way things are in the world right now if we have a corrupt Jewish woman working hand in hand with the cartel, cutting people's heads off. Oh God, that's not going to help matters in the campuses of higher learning here in the United States. Yeah, or the Mexico border or the security of the United States, anything. That's what I'm wondering. Yeah.

Where is she going to stand on that border? Scheinbaum is her name. Yeah. Well, it's either going to be very, very good for the United States or very, very bad. Yeah. very bad. Yeah. In her concession speech,

she said, I want to stress that my recognition of Scheinbaum's victory comes with a firm demand for results and solutions to the country's serious problems. So what are those serious problems, I wonder? Well, the cartels would be, I would think, would be the number one serious problem. I mean, Mexico is almost the narco state.

Yeah. That's it. Listen to what Julio Garcia said. We're reading from the AP. Julio said he's a Mexico City office worker. He said he voted for the opposition because of crime. Quote, they robbed me twice at gunpoint. You have to change direction, change leadership, the 34-year-old said,

continuing the same way we're going to become Venezuela. Ah, interesting. This is an interesting point of view. 34-year-old in Mexico. Yeah. Well, same thing here. Man, if we don't change direction, what the heck is the United States going to do? Man.

Yeah, it's so weird. I know you're experiencing this too, Dave, but I spent the whole evening with my neighbors, more than one, and I was walking home from my oldest neighbor on the block's house because he had a stewardia tree blooming, and I don't know if you've ever seen one of them,

but they're beautiful. And he's a big plantia tree blooming. And I don't know if you've ever seen one of them, but they're beautiful. And he's a big plant guy, big tree guy, so we were talking trees and stuff. You know, the things you do after 35 that you're embarrassed to say out loud. Hang out with other men and talk about trees. But anyway, I was walking home and I was like, this is so different than what i look at every day you know like the stuff that's happening on the ground level of america right now is so different than what they're doing at the highest level

it's like two different worlds yeah like you look up at capitol hill and you're like oh you guys are just going to destroy everything and then down here on main street it's like you know people are having babies and doing you know all the things planning lives you know it's crazy it's i'm sure you feel the same way because you're in school now And you see real people doing real life things And then you come home and you're like What the hell is this man doing in the White House? Well I'm in a Christian school

Which is Pretty much 100% With Trump And Biden is an old doddering fool So We fit perfectly together Because I make fun of him on a daily basis almost. Oh, do you? Yeah.

The kids love it. Oh, I bet they do. We ended school on Friday. Friday we had the seniors graduation and it was official last day. Yeah. So you'll get to hear a lot more of me on PBN. Oh, that's sweet. That's good to hear, man. You're sending those people out into the world. We need them. Yeah, we graduated 10, 10, really good, solid. One guy's going into the Navy. And, you know, so that's that's our contribution.

And, you know, so that's that's our contribution. Let's hope. Yeah. Let's hope that the rest of the country contributes. Hey, I want to say something to everybody out there. The PBN family, thank you for the prayers. This morning at four o'clock in the morning, Maria's prayers were answered and her mother passed away quietly, peacefully, in her sleep without pain. And I appreciate the PBN family. And I got I got texts and I got emails from people saying we're praying for Maria's mom. Appreciate it.

It's a good group, man. It's an amazing group of people here at PBN. How's Maria doing? She's doing good. I mean, her mom has been sick for quite a while. And we made the decision a while ago that we weren't going to go to Romania this time. And it is definitely the best decision. I don't know if I mentioned this before, but I have married into the Jerry Springer family in Romania. And no disrespect to anybody on Jerry Springer.

OK, yeah, it's it's crazy. No disrespect to anybody on Jerry Springer. Okay. Yeah. It's crazy. Better to keep your distance, huh? Yes. We went for her dad's funeral, which was like a year and a half ago. And that was quite the experience. And this was going to be even worse. So we, we decided and we told her before she got really sick and into a coma that we

weren't coming and she was okay with it. Well, she passed away peacefully in your sleep is about as good as it gets, man. At the end of days, I tell you that much. I've seen a lot of suffering in old age and uh man it can be bad you know so that's a that's a blessing yes and she has blessing shucked off these mortal coils and she's in a better place and and we're happy for her yeah that that's good, man. That's a good thing. There are many ways to get through that door.

Yeah. You know, going it peacefully is God. I don't deserve it, but I sure hope it happens to me. Surrounded by their loved ones, you know. Yeah. I understand. surrounded by their loved ones you know and yeah i understand yeah it does most of my days are behind me i have less in front of me than i do behind me so hey looking at averages i'm almost halfway so yeah i think i no no i'm more than halfway. What am I talking about? I'm not 35 anymore. Yeah, I'm over half through the race.

The average, huh? I used to say 50 is middle age because that's halfway between 100. Yeah. Well, the average for men is 74. Yeah. So I go off the average and just say, you know, if I get above average, then right on. I mean, my dad's going to live above average for sure. And my mom probably not.

So we'll see. You know, I ain't worried about it. One day at a time, you know what I mean? My days are too good to be worried about what's coming in a year, two years, three years. Yeah. too good to be worried about what's coming in a year two years three years yeah well what did you want to talk about death tonight yeah we should what do you want to talk about well you know what else is there to talk about but death you know it's an important topic. It is. Well, yeah, dealing. We had a whole class in the State Trooper Academy dealing with death. And we had a pathologist that flew in from Seattle and he had all these slides and pictures and different ways these people died and how an autopsy brought out how they died. A lot of them committed suicide.

And it was basically, you know, you had to know this kind of stuff. And, of course, the state troopers were the ones that did death notifications. You know, if someone died in lower 48. What a tough gig. Yeah. You would go to that person's the next to Ken. And, and my partner and I went to a house one time and it was an elderly lady answered the door. And we said, ma'am, we have a message for you. And, and she says, oh my gosh, for you and and she says oh my gosh i've never had a singing telegram can you sing it to me and we looked at each other like well okay and we took off our hats and we went your sister rose is dead no you did not

oh wow yeah i mean it's it that's a tough gig first of all that's a job nobody wants wow you know rolling up at the first thing in the morning to tell parents their kids was texting and driving and wrapped around a telephone pole oh i think an important thing to understand especially if you haven't been involved with death a lot, is that they're not... They're varying degrees of death and how it affects you. You know?

It's like there are people who die in your life and you're like, oh, man. And then there are people who die in your life and you crumple into a little ball and cry you know what i mean and then there are people who die in your life and you're like well on with the next one you know what i mean is life like that for you i mean you don't fall down and get depressed over every person you ever knew who died right no and at my age most of them are dead already yeah yeah it's a weird thing and i'll tell you something else here's a here's a here's the real

dark one and this doesn't pertain to shtf death it could though it very well could but it's it's it's the darkest of all deaths and and it is the many deaths of addiction. The many deaths of addiction for anybody who is raising kids or maybe has someone going down the wrong path or something along those lines. path or something along those lines. There are, you watch people who are addicted, particularly to the drugs, hard drugs, opiates and alcohol, stuff like that. They die, like, many times in your life. Because you have to deal with the death of the person before the addiction. That's death number one.

You know, you deal with that, and you're like, well, that person's gone the way that I always knew them because now the addiction is number one. Yeah. You know? And then you watch the addiction eat away at them, and they start to lose, you know, depending on what it is, it's like they lose, you know, maybe their sense of humor or whatever it is. Parts of them that you used to love die.

Yeah. at least through my experience, a lot of times when people die that have been addicted to drugs and survived for a long time, the worst of all things happens. They die, and you're like, well, I'd been expecting it for so long. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because you get fatigued by this incoming, like the incoming real death, like the incoming fact that this person's not going to be on the planet anymore

but you're also so tangled up in the fact that like if I could get away with it I'd probably kill them so they wouldn't be living this life that they're living because it's so bad so at the bottom oh man

and you pity them for and you knew what they were and it's it's not that way anymore yeah it's gone it's the many deaths that lead to this feelingless death almost you know yeah and and if you know there's a lot of bullshit out there nowadays about drugs being not so bad and drugs can do really good things for our society and all this kind of shit and man all i can tell you is you better be careful you better be damned careful out there yeah the legalization of marijuana, which everyone knows that's the gateway drug to everything else. And what exactly does marijuana do to a society?

I mean, it's a malignant. Yeah. One thing it certainly does is it makes it smell like shit everywhere. That's one thing it does. I can tell you that from experience. Well, you probably experience it down there in Richmond a lot more than I ever would up here on the mountain. Oh, yeah. You know what's funny, though?

You experience it most on the road where you're not even supposed to be smoking. That's the funny part. Dang. That's the funny part. Dang. But yeah, to your point, the first time my cousin Ryan ever smoked marijuana was with me and my friend John. And I don't know, 13 maybe, 13 years later,

something like that, she died, finally died, from a heroin overdose. And I mean, her life was bananas, Dave Jones. Yeah. I mean, I've got a story you wouldn't believe for every year from the time she got addicted to heroin on. You know what I mean? It was just the most terrible of horrible things you could imagine. Over and over and over and over.

And the people, I mean, in the family would just be like, I can't believe she's still alive. In prison, out prison, having babies. Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah, it's brutal, man. It's brutal. It is not for the faint of heart. It's brutal. It is not for the faint of heart. Well, and the reason I started thinking about this as a subject for tonight is Larry is listening to One Second After, and that's the first book.

Yeah. And so many people die in that story just from, you know, everything that happens from an emp blast right okay the initial the initial fallout basically you can you can argue all day long about you know this and that and that portion of it but we know there will be massive damage oh yeah guaranteed Massive demo. Oh, yeah. Guaranteed. Guaranteed. Well, I'm not even sold on the – see, this is what I started thinking about after the last solar storm. Yeah. I started thinking, who's to say that people don't die from a massive EMP? You know what I mean? Like, we know the carrington event was big and we know that

was a thing but who's to we don't know even if like the the impact is at a certain part part of the planet we're electrical creatures too you know what i mean oh yeah how do we not know that the sheer because the the amount of force or the amount of power it's going to have to have to hit this planet and shut all the power out is going to be a lot because that was no joke that solar storm we just had so something that big i was thinking about that while everybody was looking at the auroras i was like man if it's big enough to shut all power down i imagine it's just going to kill some people outright like you know well thereil, old, compromised immunity.

I don't know. Some kind of power surge is going to happen. It'll probably stop somebody's heart that's not, you know, healthy. Everybody that has pacemakers and those automatic injections of insulin. Okay, they're all those automatic things. Vent mean the leaders all that icu ventilators yeah more and more we were becoming bionic where you have something attached to you that's a medical necessity and it's electronic you know whether you're using using an inhaler, one of those aspirators, or sleep apnea machines. I think a sleep apnea machine is probably a bad move.

I don't know it for a fact. Anything that props your body up seems like you're weakening your body. You know what I mean? Yeah. All those things that prop people up, it seems to me that it's like this is going to make your body think, oh, I don't have to worry about breathing at night because this machine does it. Almost like the ventilator in COVID, you know? Yeah, exactly.

That's exactly what it is. It keeps you breathing. Right. I was denied long-term care insurance because I've been diagnosed with sleep apnea. Wait, you were denied it? Denied. Cannot get coverage. And I'm like, is sleep apnea killing that many people

that's bananas that seems like a reason why you would get approved for long-term care coverage like dude i need i might need some care i got problems yeah no they I guess they figure I'm not going to pay premiums enough, but I don't I don't hear people dying of sleep apnea. You know, that is so crazy, dude. Yeah. That is bananas. I worked for two years in the joint personal effects depot. in the Joint Personal Effects Depot. Another tough gig. Another tough gig. But when you were saying about the death notifications,

so there were death notification officers, and then there were casualty assistance officers. Okay, now the death notification guy, they just go in, make the notification, and leave. Okay? The casualty assistance officer comes in and helps the family with everything. With, you know, the insurance, everything that deals with, you know, till they're in the grave, till they're buried, you know, the personal effects, everything like that. And then there was us, and we worked at Joint Personal Effects Depot, where we processed all the personal effects that came back.

And the crazy thing about this, each person in that chain thought the other person had the worst job yeah wow it was crazy yeah we we all thought it was quite an honor you know to be able to provide this service to, um, someone that had sacrificed everything. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. When my dad was in the air force during Vietnam, he, um, he was, he didn't go to Vietnam. Thank God. But I don't know if I'd be here But He did the Military funeral What is it the honor guard I don't know what it's called Is that what it is the honor guard

Yeah he did that for everybody That would come back You know Shooting the rifles off and all that business Yeah I'm sure that was wild Because business was booming. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But put it in perspective, though, we lost more people last year to drug overdoses. Well, there you go. And we did the whole Vietnam War, the 10 years of the whole Vietnam War. And we lost one year. Yeah.

And we've done that, I think, at least for two or three years. Oh, absolutely. We've been in the 90Ks for like two or three years just with drug overdoses. for like two or three years just with drug overdoses. Yeah, I mean, so many people are touched by that version of death because there's like, you know, I always look at death as versions and, I don't know, hierarchies and stuff. You know what I mean? Because it's like that.

Yeah. I don't know why it's like that to me, but it always feels that way. it's like that yeah i don't know why it's like that to me but it always feels that way you know it's like you can't tell me that like losing your second uncle you barely saw is the same thing as losing your kid you know what i mean so there's definitely like a hierarchy and uh it's important for people to know that when those times come. I don't know, though. You know what it seems like? And it sucks, but it seems like the people who hold it together during it all are the ones who are the most important in the group.

You know what I mean? No matter what the situation is, no matter how close the person is to you, it always seems like somebody will rise to the occasion and hold it together. Even the last days and the planning of the last days or whatever it is. And that person, man, is invaluable because a lot of people don't hold it together. You know, what's happening in families, a lot of people collapse. They just can't function. Exactly. I mean, they can't function. Exactly. I mean, they don't eat.

They don't sleep. They don't. They. Yeah, they. And you have to recognize this as a thing. You know, in your prepper group, because we get to Mad Max and there's going to be so many people dead the ones that are left alive

there won't be enough of us to bury them yeah definitely you created that metric in my mind with pandemics and now I apply it to almost everything I apply the metric of

if the people around you aren't dropping dead then it's probably not necessarily the time to panic and and i used to think that way just for pandemics and i've been thinking about that a lot with the uh h5n1 yeah and and then i started thinking about it in other ways too i started I started thinking about, like, what are some of the metrics you would need to know? Like, this is not regular crime. This is not civil unrest on a scale that we're used to. This is the end of the world as we know it. And I think, to your point, one of those those metrics is oh uh bill down the street got shot

on his way into work yesterday and and sandy got raped and and robbed on her way to the you know what i mean and all of a sudden you're like oh this shit is happening on the block like this yeah it's bad so i i like that adage it's not you know one for one it's not exactly the same thing as what you said but the but the theory is good once the chaos starts touching people who are close to you not people in news articles you don't know that's a really good metric for being like oh okay time for plan b yeah i remember when we talked about this in COVID. Yeah, it was great advice, I thought. I told you, well, the death rate isn't there.

And, you know, and then we realized what was going on. And we realized pretty early on. I think it's because we pay attention to these things we're not the ones that are blinded by the next shiny thing yeah exactly yeah exactly yeah i'm watching russell brand i'm watching a ton of different people have these aha moments and become like insanely famous and popular. And I'm looking around at us and I'm like, dude, we were talking about this stuff four years ago. Where you been?

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's crazy. But it's an honor. It really is. Not only is it an honor, think about what we did for our families and the people who are close to us because there's still people there's still people scared of covid yeah you

know what i mean think about how much anxiety we left behind because we did the work early figured it out realized fauci was a crook realized this thing came from a lab, realized it wasn't going to kill everybody and all that kind of stuff. I mean, just so much spawned off of that. I would like to search the archives for when I said Fauci is dead to me. Do you remember that? Hell yeah. I said he's dead. Well, I got to sit down one of these weekends and do what you told me to do, which is put together the COVID journal.

Oh, my gosh. You know, just grab all the Corona casts, all the old preppers lives and everything all the way back. Because we used to do a COVID show every single Monday. Every Monday. Yeah. Every Monday we did a. First, it was a Corona cast because it was coronavirus. Then it became a COVID cast, and then it got crazy and became Chaos cast because it was all out in the open and we knew it.

And that was a wild time, man. That was so crazy. But, yeah, we had impact. There was some serious impact had, I think, for the people around us and the listeners, of course, and all that. Yeah. I'll never forget the day I sent. Oh, go ahead. Well, I advise people, if you have to get a vaccine, get the Johnson and Johnson. It was the only one that was made like all the other vaccines. No MRNA. that was made like all the other vaccines. No mRNA.

Yep, the other ones were with the spike protein, and it was creating a challenge for your body to produce something. Now, what we're seeing is, you know, sudden death. Oh, yeah, we're going to look back on it and be like, wow, I can't believe that happened i mean i but we when a crazy moment and i don't even know if my kids will remember it or will appreciate it maybe they will when they're older but we sent our kids to school with no mask on yeah once once uh yunkin came into office he changed the rule immediately yeah and they came back from

christmas break i think it was and rolled up into school with no mask on and they were they were two of three kids in the whole school i'll never forget that man it was such a crazy thing and for weeks dave jones for weeks and then then you know maybe after about two to three weeks you started to see the masks come off yeah start oh it's like five kids and it was like nine kids and you know what i mean yeah and now the only people that wear them are the parents figure that one out yeah and it's just crazy when they when i saw the videos of these kids running black meets with masks oh and collapsing and i'm like what is going through these people's minds you know it's full sunshine. It's bright, hot, sunny day.

Right. This virus is not going to survive. You know, and you're running. Yeah. With a paper bag over your mouth. Yes. You might as well just put the chloroform on the mask. Good luck out there.

Yeah. you might as well just put the chloroform on the mask good luck out there yeah dave why are they still wearing masks man what's going on i don't they probably don't do it in your neck of the woods but they wear them still no every once in a while you'll see some people we saw two leaving costco's parking lot they're in their car. In the vehicle. In the vehicle. It makes you want to jump in front of the car and get yourself run over. You can't comprehend it. Yeah. What are you doing in the car with the mask?

It doesn't work when you're in front of someone. Yeah. So what's the point of wearing it in the car? Oh, man, it's's crazy But you know what To bring it all back It's a fear of death You know what I mean That's the power

Of death The power of death will make you put Two masks on and a cloth mask Over top of it Yeah I remember Fauci with that one Remember that Yep Death will make you put two masks on and a cloth mask over top of it. Yeah, I remember Fauci with that one. Remember that? Remember that?

Yep. That's what it'll do. Fear of death will make you put 16 shots of an experimental vaccine with mRNA coursing through it into your body. Yeah. And people think, well, at least I'm doing something. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. For sure. If you want to do something that's effective, don't go downtown. Yeah. But that's what happens when you're not a prep or two.

True. Or when you're not doing anything to actually make a difference in your own life. Then you feel like, well, I got to wear six masks because that's the only way I know how to make a difference in your own life, then you feel like, well, I got to wear six masks. Cause that's the only way I know how to make a difference. You know what I mean? If you're stacking, if you're stacking food and water and antibiotics, and you're like, no, we're going to be all right. Cause I'm working, doing these things. Then you don't say I got to wear 17 masks and get 30 shots to make a

difference. You say, we've made a difference. We'll stay right in this house if it gets bad, you know? Yeah. And that's what a lot of people did. I think that's a lot of the reason that people are still protesting. I think a lot of this protest stuff comes down to that, Dave. It comes down to people who are looking for anything to do other than the hard work they have to do to start their life. Yeah. I think a lot of it is that. I start every day

with a list of to-dos. And some days I hit the hardest stuff, the deep writing stuff right off the bat with the coffee and just go in and focus. And then some days I hit the emails first, the easy stuff. I put music on. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I just feel that same vibe from these kids that are telling us that they love, you know, Palestinians so much. I just feel like they're looking out onto the world and saying, damn, now I have to make a life now.

Like I'm out of school, I'm out of college, now I have to do the hard stuff and make an actual life. What better it would be if I could sit in this park with my friends and smoke pot and hang out in tents and scream at night and fight the police? You know? Way better than paying back these damn loans. Yeah. I called it, what did I call it? I made a meme picture of it that I'm almost scared to put up because it's a little mean. But I started calling it distractivism.

Yeah, distractivism. Distractivism. I'm an activist to distract myself away from the fact that it's time to do life and I'm not ready. Yeah. I don't know. That was a tangent to far, far past death, I guess. Oh, no, definitely. Something that a lot of people don't know is that a military unit is considered effective if they have 60% strength.

They are considered combat effective at 60%. So, you know, what's that other 40%? Acceptable casualties. Yeah. Injured or dead. Yeah, exactly. Or sick, I guess. Yeah, incapacitated out of the fight. For whatever reason.

Yeah, that's wild. That's wild. But Yeah, that's wild. That's wild. But that's that mindset that you taught in your classes. Yeah. About acceptable casualties. That is an important part on the concept

of death and SHTF is the whole security, self-defense, stay and fight retreat that whole sort of mentality you know yeah the moment you take heels in you're gonna be probably coming pretty close with to you know face to face with death well yeah either yours or someone that you love right right because they're not just gonna to shoot at you. They're going to shoot at everything. Right. You have to be able to assess a situation quickly. And here's the thing. You know, you talk about the hierarchy of preparedness. You know, at the bottom is people that don't have anything. The next level up is people that may have a gun. The next level up, people that may have a gun and may have some training. The next level up, people that may have a gun, may have some training and may have good,

you know, weaponry and ammo and stuff like that. So by the time you get to the top of the pinnacle of this pyramid, those are the people with laser sights, night vision, body armor, and they've done all the training. So you have to assess what situation are you in? So you have to assess what situation are you in. If you see a bunch of lasers coming at your position at night, you got to go. Yeah. Yeah. And good luck with that, even.

I hope you see them from far away. That's all I could say. Or, you know, infrared emitters. If you got your night vision on and you see a bunch of infrared emitters, get the hell out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that is the truth, though. I mean, and I don't know everybody who listens to PBN, but you see people and you know that there are people i don't know what the percentage is you know but there's a percent of people out there who are just it doesn't matter

probably how many people you have you know what i mean if you're if you're somewhere in the middle of that hierarchy yes with your training and your weapons there's like a group of six to eight guys who can make men's meat out of you. And way more equipped. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Capability that you just can't even wrap your head around. And then you have like on top of that, then you have sort of like the overwhelming force from financially well-off people. You know what I mean?

Like just people who are like, I got all the food, all the money, all the weapon, whatever. And we're just going to throw people at the whatever we want. We're going to throw a bunch of people at it. So now it's 50 people rolling into the neighborhood you know what i mean instead of six well-trained guys and that's a whole nother nightmare and going back to the uh one second after the big battle was at the end and it was it was these people that that's all they did. They went from community to community and killed and stole what they needed to get to the next community. And that was the big battle.

You know, not for any spoilers or anything but right and i i see that as being a pretty logical um progression yeah people will come together out of necessity because you remember in the in the book they um I think they captured someone and they said, why did you join this group? Well, I was hungry. There you go. Yeah. Dave, let's take a quick commercial break. Go ahead.

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The, uh... I really like this concept, Dave Jones, and I think there's something important to talk about in terms of... What? Hang on one second. Buddy, I'm doing a live show, man. Good, give me five. We'll talk later, okay? No, go. We'll talk later.

The thing about those groups that's interesting is, and they show up in a lot of fiction and a lot of movies and stuff like that. The thing that always interests me about them is how do you fight attrition with a big group? You know what I mean? How do you fight attrition and how do you deal with the, what's it called? The mutiny and all that kind of stuff. Yeah.

Because I think that that's a huge responsibility. And you would know better than most if you have 25 guys, 50 guys. Yeah. And you don't have any resupply in terms of food and water, and you've got to sustain that, that's a lot. I mean, I used to cater, so I look at everything through that lens. But you've been around military-age men who were hungry, I'm sure, and you know what fun that could be.

Yeah. Well, you'd have to rule it with an iron fist. For sure. Whoever was on top had to be on top and stay on top. Yeah. Well, that's where the attrition comes in because people who disobey they're going to be killed so now you're losing body so you'd have to recruit you know what i mean you'd have to

have some sort of recruiting apparatus as you went through these communities and say you know like i won't kill your wife and your kids if you come with me yeah or something along those lines you know that's also hit and miss you know in sarah's fiction uh they're creating fighters yeah that's true that's true that's a good way to look at it yeah they're training them and creating them in in real life if you don't come across the guy and it's a very small percentage you know know, I always tell, you know, I'm can hold a group or train a group you know your bullet catchers will outnumber your proficient guys right and yeah yeah you know, that would be an awesome story, Dave, is an EMP from the point of view of a military operation abroad, a U.S. military operation abroad, maybe even a whole the base in K? It starts with K. Koresh or, I don't know, I can't think of it. But there's a military base in Iraq. And it would be, that would be a crazy story. You know, the EMP hits, everything's out, the men in the base understand that they're there for the long haul. Yeah, there's no rescue. Yeah. So they had basically two choices. It's like

we have to become the warlords ourselves. We have the equipment, or at least some of it. Yep. Or we wait for the Taliban and ISIS and all of them to figure out what's going on and power up and come kill us all. Ooh, that'd be a

fun one. It would be for the Apache of the Bronx, you know? Yeah, that would be a good story. That'd be fun. That'd be a fun one for sure. It would probably be worth having a plan slash resource, if you don't already, for getting through the deaths of the people you love, you know? Not everybody's lost people yet that mean the world to them. And people take it differently, you know?

People take it differently and you got to have some kind of a plan for it when it happens, if it starts to happen. Yeah. You know, the other thing that happens too is people disappear in the face of all that. It could be somebody that you count on tremendously. In regular life, this happens. Yeah. And it could be someone you count on tremendously for security in your survival community or whatever. An essential person. And, you know, sometimes when people fall ill and they're getting close to death, some people just have to go away.

Like, they don't want to be a part of it. They don't want to be near it. They can't deal with it. Oh, yeah. And then what? Yeah, they become combat ineffective well yeah that yeah that's one way to look at it for sure yeah yeah you gotta have a game plan and that's not even talking about what to do once once people once death crosses over from you know the souls out of the body, and now you've got to deal with the body.

Yeah. I know at Fortitude Ranch we have, I hate to say this, but we have plans for incineration. Well, you've got to have them, though. I mean, it's good that you have those plans. That's the sign of an operation that's thought things through. Yeah. You know? Not living on Disney pixie dust operation that's thought things through. Yeah. You know, not not living on like Disney pixie dust. Nobody's going to die. So why worry about that?

You know, well, it answers a bunch of different problems, because if you have a place where you bury someone, then people go there to mourn. If you burn a person to ashes, wherever those ashes go, you know, it's less of a obstacle or impediment to the larger group. Well, I also think it's important because they're mobile and you're at Fortitude Ranch. Yeah. You might be from Manhattan, and you go to Fortitude Ranch, New York for three years, and in three years' time, someone you love dies there,

but then things are coming back to normal, and you're going to head back to Manhattan. You don't want to drive all the way out to a cemetery in Fortitude Ranch, New York, and the casket. I mean, what the hell are those mountains called? I can't think of it. And then, you know, that's where your loved one lays to rest. At least with ashes, you can put them in an urn and carry them with you with you yeah and it's also more sanitary i mean you you start burying dead bodies animals could come dig them up

if you don't do it right you know that's a lot of work and there's no embalming you know there's no preservation they're gonna rot yeah that's a lot of work, especially if you start, you know, people start dying a lot. Like how many men do you have to commit to six feet holes in the ground? Yeah. You know, it's no joke. Wow, this has been an extremely dark episode. What did you think would come out of death, you know? dark episode what did you think would come out of death you know you know i mean every book has a beginning and an end yeah it is the story of life oh it is and everybody deals with that ending

differently that's right yeah i wrote a poem in darker trails and making the metaphor of life like the closing of, like a book. And the best question I could come up with in that poem was who turns the pages? You know, that's a question worth asking yourself. In your own story, in your own book of life who's turning the pages you know because we have a bunch of different a bunch of different

beliefs and a bunch of different motivations and a bunch of different vices you know and maybe maybe the answer to that question dave j, is that different things and different people are turning the pages of your life at different times. That could be true. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Your kids that you're taking care of. Oh, yeah. And once they grow up and leave the nest.

Oof. Yeah. I'm not ready. You talk about the many deaths Oof. Yeah. I'm not ready. You talk about the many deaths. Yes. Ooh. You know, childhood is nothing but deaths. If you look at it the way I look at it, you know?

Yeah. Well, I started thinking about it last summer. I was in the Outer Banks, and I i was on a bike and i was biking by this house that we stayed at um two years before oh you know you know and i'm looking at it i'm thinking like man jake was this age and carter was this age and i started thinking like not literally but metaphorically if i could go dig through that driveway and find a piece of one of them from back then. Yeah. You know what I mean?

And then I started thinking, those faces of six-year-old Carter and two-year-old Jacob, they're forbidden on the planet now. You know what I mean? They're gone. It's over. And then you start breaking it down to like every day. Like every day is, you know, it's over. Like today, everything we did, everything that was said, the memories and moments of today, gone.

Yep. And you can't remember it all. No. Because it's crazy. This is crazy. It's crazy. We had graduation, and one of the things we did was have each one of the families do a picture collage of the senior that was graduating. I'm crying. Yeah, it was fantastic. Oh, yeah, I'm crying. Yeah, it was fantastic. Oh, yeah. To see these little tykes and the one one of the students had been at Legacy from kindergarten all the way to graduation. And that was unbelievable. Yeah.

Oh, man, that's crazy. It's so crazy. Kids are make, I don't know, you know, you did it a long time without kids. You know, you have a lot to tell me because I just don't understand it. I don't understand what life would be like without them do you know what i mean oh yeah yeah well motivations and the get up every day and do this stuff and look forward to what and you know the growth i mean you know that the like the change and growth that comes from kids is it's immeasurable. There's no other force like it.

Even like a nagging wife can't push you the way that your children can push you and they don't even have to nag you. Oh, exactly. It's a whole nother dimension. It's a universe that is totally opposite if you don't have kids. I mean, it will bring things. Oh, I say this all the time because I had Deanna when I was 50. And now she's two years away from graduation. I don't know if I'll be able to hold it together.

I don't blame you. I wouldn't be able to. I won't be able to. Yeah. Yeah. I won't be able to. I went through fifth grade graduation, for God's sakes, and was crying like a baby. Because I know it.

You know, I know the inevitable is coming. Yeah. It's inevitable. And you want it. You know what I mean? It's exactly what you want. You don't want them to stay. You can't be like, dude, just hang out with me until you're 50. Let's just do all the fun things.

I got one of those right now. There you go. You see the downside of that, right? It wears off, right? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's the thing about individuality that people need to understand you know we're so big on grouping people up you know women have these problems men have these problems straight people have these problems gay people white people black people what is what always helped me with that and i

would say it on my show a lot when i was just doing i am liberty is like a man with kids and a man without kids aren't even the same thing you know what i mean like they're not even the same no and i'm sure it's the same with women it's got it i mean it's probably even worse with women a woman with kids compared to a woman who never had kids. They might as well be two different species. I agree. And there's no way you can, even if you're like, have a real close relationship with a niece or nephew, there's no way you can mimic wake up every day and there's a thing in the house that needs you.

Right. And it has a future and you're responsible for it up until a certain point i mean you just it changes everything yeah so when you when you see people getting wrapped up on their identity politics we're not even the same thing when we're the same thing we're not even the same thing when we're the same thing. Yeah. You know what I mean? I know. It's just the reality of it. And then a person that has, you know, one kid or one sex of a kid.

Oh, yeah. Well, that's a great point, too. You can even, yeah, you can even break it down further from that, right? My brother-in-law had twins. Ooh. Yeah, imagine that boot camp. from that. Right. My brother-in-law had twins. Ooh. Yeah. Imagine that boot camp. First kids.

Wow. First kids ever twins. Find out what's causing that and stop it. Well, they're having another one and it's a, it's a just one boy. Oh, okay. So something happened to put an end to it. That's funny. But yeah. Oh, okay. So something happened to put an end to it. That's funny. But, yeah.

Yeah, you're right. There are categories within categories within categories, you know. God, we got to get back to that, Dave Jones. We got to get back to individuals and individual freedom, man. This group think, this gang, this gangs of New York mentality that we have in this country right now is so dumb and boring

you know it doesn't even inspire greatness out of these people who are so passionate about being whatever it is they're passionate about being you know whatever issue it is just boring it was something I've been thinking about lately Whatever issue it is. Just boring. It was something I've been thinking about lately, and it's Prepper related, is shotgun shells.

Okay. I don't know why, but I have a terrible craving for a double-barreled shotgun. And I don't need it. Just want it. Just want a double-barreled shotgun. And I don't need it. Just want it. Just want a double-barreled. Any particulars? Sawed-off? Pistol grip?

Just a double-barreled shotgun. Okay. So I've been going to Walmart and getting regular, the cheapest shot you can find. And you can get like 100 rounds of like clay shot to shoot clays for $70, $78. So that's less than a dollar a round. Right. dollar around right and there are ways that you can put a slug in this by cutting the top off and putting a lead slug you get a slug mold uh a lee slug mold for 40 bucks and you can get lead just about anywhere wheel weights um you know you can use a shot that you even take out of the the other show

and just melt it down yeah and then you can make these slug rounds which i'm telling you no one i mean even if they have body armor it would be like getting hit with a car okay they're they are gonna think twice if they get hit with a slug and they are gonna run away yelling for mommy so why the double barrel slug over something that holds like you know five or something along those lines. Oh, I was just thinking of a cheap way to make better shotgun shells. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah. So the double barrel doesn't have anything to do with the execution. It's just a cool thing you want.

Yeah. You could put shot shells back in. You just have to have a crimper, a thing that crimps, or you put a cardboard cap. That's the way it used to be when I was growing up. There was a cardboard cap in the end of shotgun shells to hold the shot in there. Oh, I didn't know that. I've only ever seen the plastic crimp. in there so i've only ever seen the plastic crimp yeah yeah troopers they run around uh i don't know 40 50 bucks so yeah the shotgun is the most underrated weapon in the tactical and prepping world today you know it really is you hardly hear anybody talk about shotguns you never see them used in tactical video games. Nobody's ever whipping out a shotgun and being like, let's test this baby out and see.

You know what I mean? Let's put a sight on it. They're so underrated. They're monstrous. Yes, they are. In close quarters, there's no substitution. Yeah. I mean, round for round and ounce for ounce, a shotgun, a pump shotgun, will put more lead in the air faster than a submachine gun. Yeah, that's awesome.

That's awesome. And, I mean, most shotguns, you're not even going to have to worry about, like, AR-15 jams or semi-automatic handgun jams. Right. You know what I mean? So they're awesome. I mean, they're definitely on my tier list, like top. Probably the second gun I would buy if I started all over again would be a 12-gauge. Yeah, it has such versatility.

Those slugs you can hunt deer with i mean uh you you can hunt bird with them you can i mean start fires with them right right there there are signaling uh things with shotgun shells you know that even if you just had a primer inside a shotgun shell you you have a trip wire and it makes a bang yeah yeah i've seen those they're they're cool little pin hits the primer yeah yeah yeah it's an amazing weapon and then you get you know how many different types of shot on top of it all you can store. Yeah. Yep. You know?

Great weapon. Awesome. Highly underrated. Been given over to the, you know, the Picatinny rail and all the little doodahs and goo-gahs and goo-gahs that you can stick on one of those. And lights and sights. The amount of training you need with a shotgun. Yeah, that's a great point. Compared to an AR.

If you give someone that has never fired a weapon before a shotgun, they can be effective. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great point. That's a really great point when you talk about prepping and prepping with people. And some people you might be prepping with have no clue about guns. dead i said man you guys you you know because i was with special forces navy seal all that kind of i was surrounded by those guys i said i want shotguns and hand grenades aerial weapons that's what i want yeah for real yeah devastating power yeah what, Dave? Have we done it? I think we've done it, but for whatever it's worth, it's on my mind. That's what I'm doing right now. That's my prepper tip. Go get some shotgun shells

and convert them into something that you can really use. Yeah. And maybe play around with what else you can stuff inside them babies you know they got everything you i mean they got shotgun shells with everything in them it's not like you could to your point you could scavenge your way into a load whatever it is right yeah i mean you could you could essentially make a scrap metal load yeah well and rock salt you know that they used to have rock salt and that was considered like non-lethal because it was little grains of salt and they would penetrate the skin far enough and they would burn like crazy yeah we grew up playing on the train tracks. My parents always used to tell me,

on top of don't play on the damn train tracks, they would tell me that if they see you, they're going to shoot you with rock salt. Never stopped us. We never saw anybody with a rock salt gun either, but I remember the stories. Yeah. Well, all right, PBN family, rock salt gun either, but I remember the stories. Yeah.

Well, alright, PBN family, we came in here with intentions of talking death. We talked some death, we talked some COVID, we talked some life, some kids, some shotguns. I don't know, that's a damn good prep or show if you ask me. I'll say.

Well, Dave Jones, it was a pleasure, my man. Always a pleasure to have you on for an hour and see what's going on in your mind. Pretty scary, huh? No scarier than what's between my eyes, dude. I promise you that. All right, PBN family, till next time, folks. We'll see. It's been Preppers Live.

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