The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Preppers LIVE with How Prepping Went Mainstream w/ Jason Nelson

Episode Date: January 23, 2024

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I am doing so great. Thanks for having me. And like you said, you know you're going to hit it off with somebody and you realize, oh, wait, we were supposed to be live. I hope I didn't panic you. It's all good. Live chats here. What's up, garden girl?

JB, how you guys doing? Thanks for joining us tonight, JB. Those oysters and them clams. We got a listener out there in the western part. The Pacific Northwest out there just always catching that great fish off the Puget or something like that. I don't know, but you're always doing good. Jealous, jealous. But yeah, man, thanks so much. This was very impromptu it happened very fast

you got a great um i don't know what danielle she did a great job yeah kudos to her she made this thing happen she's an awesome uh we got a great team that are working hard right yeah you know to get us out there and danielle i actually had the greatest intro call with her today or not intro but calling about this to see if it was video or if I could actually relax. And, uh, when I called her, I had no idea based on her emails. She's, she has such a, uh, a New York accent from back home. And it was just an awesome conversation and it just reminded. So just great people and they're all over the country and I just love them to death. And I'm glad we could get, you know, get connected and get together live tonight. Right on, man. So, you people, and they're all over the country, and I just love them to death, and I'm glad we could get connected and get together live tonight.

Right on, man. So one of the big things, and it's more personal because I really enjoy the topic. One of the big things I saw that you'd like to talk about, I want you to intro yourself first, but I did like the idea of talking about this prepping gone mainstream idea because uh i don't know man it's just something i hoped for for a very long time and it's something i saw happen and it's something we all here at pbn kind of you know watched take place um so it's always good to get another person's perspective on that but i think before we get into that i know a lot about you because i read the brief sent over to me and but the audience

they don't know quite enough yet so why don't you let them know who jason nelson is and what it is he's up to gosh so uh that's such a broad question did you know i was once a contestant on the price is right uh oh man i saw you i was sick home from school one day. I remember you. Yeah, no, I, yeah, younger than me, actually. Yeah, I think I'm not sure. Forty four. So, yeah, I'm one of those Americans who decided that at the age of 18 that Paris Island would be a fun place to spend summer camp. So I joined the Marine Corps at the tender age of 18. I took a break after eight years in the Corps to go to college. And then after college, I went back into, I went into the Army. I went into civil affairs and psychological operations, which falls under USASOC, so United States Army Special Operations Command. I really wanted to do that particular job. The Marine Corps

had a very limited field. So I went in and did that. And the Army and some of the best training, some of just the best people you're ever going to serve with. And the whole job is built around problem solving, you know, finding complex problems and creating simple, measurable solutions. And it was just it was amazing opportunity to go around the world to be deployed places, humanitarian missions, you know, obviously Afghanistan and things like that. But more importantly, the opportunity to interact with a lot of different cultures because, you know, people have problems in places and it always is. It isn't always about money. Often it's about teaching people self-reliance which is uh so you know all that sort of dovetailed into when i retired um you know i left uh let's see january so two years ago and then when i retired i wanted something to do uh that could i had run for

congress right when i retired uh more of to get to know my community you know after 20 years away it's it's it's a lot. And down here, I asked, hey, what are the biggest things people need to solve? And they said, well, we need to continue to build our agrarian sector, beef, chicken, things like that are huge down here in Texas, corn. But more importantly, we need jobs. And so I left sort of that race and got second place. I was pretty proud of that and I went off and said well what can I do what's a what's a problem I can solve that I can also apply to both and then of course we started our company Prepper All Naturals which was originally Prepper Organics

which was chicken and we were really proud of our product but it was we thought that's what all you could do was chicken and we just wanted to create solutions for the kind of junk that's out there, you know, that a lot of people consider prepper food. And little did we know that the reason people weren't doing beef was just because I guess it's hard. And so we went and created some simple solutions there and started our company, Prepper All Naturals. And that's been my last, you know, two years has been watching this company grow. And it's been amazing, you know, being able to watch our little company start to support, you know, over a dozen families with, you know, high paying jobs that, you know, take advantage of our agrarian sector, exactly what we wanted to do. But more importantly, to create sort of something we could give to everyday Americans out there that I don't think we had the opportunity, that I don't think they have the opportunity to get anywhere else. And so it was taking our mission, my main mission in life, and my partners who, you

know, come from the similar backgrounds, that what it was was to find simple, measurable solutions for complex problems. And you talk about prepping going mainstream. I don't think anything could make prepping go any more mainstream than what COVID did to the average American. Well, before we get rocking on that, what exactly is Prepper All Naturals? So Prepper All Naturals, what we were was, again, we were Prepper Organics. And our goal was to find a way for people to be able to get high-quality animal protein that you knew it from source to end product everywhere it came from. Now you talk. Our goals were simple, all- American company, meaning everything we do is

American. Our, our, our, whether it's our Mylar bags, which come from Florida or our, um, oxygen absorbers, which come from Wisconsin, you know, everything has to be come from America. The, the cattle, uh, when we moved to cattle and moved to beef, the big thing was, is that we wanted to provide people, um, you know, I is that we wanted to provide people um you know i wanted to be able to tell people that i went out and i walk with their cattle every week like i go out there and do it just so i can tell people look those are your cattle out there like on our website the pictures you see are our cows and so it was so we could say look we know what's not being injected into them we know it's being fit how they're being, look, we know what's not being injected into them. We know it's being fit, how they're being finished.

And we know when it goes to slaughter that it's being slaughtered in a – I mean, we just have the most wonderful processing company that – our plant. But it's a family-owned operation, and we've essentially taken them over in a positive way. And they hand slaughter our cattle in a humane way and hand carve it. And we were able to, you know, do things that other people don't do, like take ribeye, New York strip, your tenderloin and separate it out. So people who, you know, maybe don't want to live off of taco flavored beef porridge or whatever it is that people sell. If you wanted to have something that actually supplemented your home garden, not everybody can have a cow and not everybody's going to have the ability,

even in a barter economy, to have access to beef. And animal proteins are so important. And I think that so we just had a very simple mission to go out and create something that nobody else was doing and then provide people an alternative to what's out there. As a person who's eaten my fair share of freeze-dried food and MREs, I know what the difference is between just getting a caloric intake and actually enjoying what you're eating. Sure. So you're dealing in freeze-dried cuts of beef.

Correct. Not ground beef, not, you know, whatever kind of leftovers they have once they're done actually trimming beef and selling the expensive parts. You guys have it broke down by diced, and I guess it's all diced, right? Like large cuts, something like that? It's hand-carved, so it's not even,

I wouldn't use the word diced because people would get the, know it's i mean uh one to two i mean two inch pieces uh you know it's it's a good shot it's if you were to eat it you you know you're gonna have to you know have to cut it uh in both instances because that's it's real beef you know and we sous vide it which is uh we sous vide it to pasteurization and before we freeze dry it so it's actually um you know it's a bpa uh free dry it. So it's actually, you know, it's a BPA-free plastic. It's cooked in its own au jus. Actually just came from over there today. We had a cooking day.

It was amazing. The beef is just like, and it comes out, and we put it right in the freeze dryer. And I just don't think many people, based on what we were seeing, and again, I'm not going to knock on any company. It's just I don't know why people weren't providing this. And I had to do my research and find out, you know, people are buying like government surplus cows, you know, that kind of stuff. And I guess that's where a beef crumble comes from is a surplus cow. But you're thinking, I mean, why does it have to be that way? I mean, beef prices are going up, but we started two years ago to be able to start locking in cattle and buying cattle futures because we knew. And that was hard to do, by the way.

They don't say, oh, you're 100% combat disabled. Here's free money to go start a business. I mean, we had to do it the hard, hard way, like selling two cows in the first month and working so hard just to get to where we are now where we're processing, you know, 90 cattle, 90 head a month and we're moving into bison. And so this is just, it's taken a lot of work to do this. And it's been so amazing to see the response from people because it's true. People do want something different than what's out there. They want to be able to supplement what they know they can grow and things like that with real quality beef. And that's what we're most proud of probably is that we set out to do something and we actually did it.

Yeah, well, congratulations, man. An American-oriented business like that having success is about as good as it gets on a cold Monday in Virginia for me. I'll tell you that much. I love the story. But, you know, finding that you have this product, it seems like it has a lot of general, you know, use around. And it brings to bear the idea of just how much food is changing, you know. And we get a lot of, you know, we've been bitching and moaning over here at PBN about the appeal product created by Bill Gates.

And it's easy to complain about the things in the food industry that scare you and make you nervous about the future of food in the country. But it's like I said at the beginning of the show, man, there's just people like you out there who have we haven't discovered yet. And there's just people like you out there who we haven't discovered yet. And there's that whole other side of the food industry that's being put together to serve people the best quality stuff in ways that we haven't even thought of yet. I mean there's a lot of – outside of the prepping world, Jason, a lot of people who'd be interested in what you guys are doing. Well, you know, what's, and thank you, and what I think is interesting is that we weren't just looking at, funny enough, the prepping side of it.

I think when people use the word prepping, it's used too loosely to mean, you know, almost as an original thing to, you know, oh, you're a prepper. We're reading, homeschooling right now, we're reading Little House in the Big Woods, you know, the first book're a prepper. We're reading homeschooling right now. We're reading Little House in the Big Woods, you know, the first book in the Little House on the Prairie. And my kids, I'm telling them the whole part where they're storing up for winter, essentially. And I'm laughing because I'm realizing my kids aren't blinking their eyes at that. You know,

they're little kids, eight, six, four, and all that. But they're just going, oh, yeah, of course you have a ton of food in your house. That's what you're supposed to have, right? It's interesting. I think people, they go their that side of it but then there's this whole other side where i we were looking at you know prices just fluctuate but we pay farmers not to grow crops in this country you pay farmers not to and you think well you know why aren't we taking advantage when prices are low and doing finding unique ways to store that product so that when prices, you know, when the when the ability to grow it or produce that product or that crop is not as high and the prices start to rise, you can supplement it. And we send so much aid around the world and just being able to reduce the weight by 75 percent on everything you send. And, you know, it doesn't limit you to sending rice anymore.

Now, all of a sudden it's like, oh, wait a minute, this great booming bison industry. Why aren't we sending that instead? So we can actually, you know, help people in areas and get them healthy. You know, that kind of thing. It's weird, but it's a paradigm shift. And I think that we're seeing the world start to look at it a little bit differently because you have lab-grown meat. And I don't know about you, but I think beef is grown in a pasture, not a Petri dish. I can't even, I can't even imagine, man. You know, and, and that's why

people like you are so important because everybody's going to be running to one side or the other. You know what I mean? There's going to be the lab grown, it's cheap. The, the news tells me I should eat it and that's fine. Soylent green crowd. And then, you know, there's going to be the lab grown. It's cheap. The news tells me I should eat it, and that's fine. Soylent green crowd. And then there's going to be a whole other group of people that are like, I need options. I want all the options. I'm the type of guy, Jason, I want all the options.

You know what I mean? Like when I find a product like yours, I'm like, oh, let's just add it to the list, baby. What's another option to be eating beef when they're telling me to eat crickets yep i i you know the thing is is i think what a lot of people forget is is notice how many strings came attached to just and again i just used the most recent example but the covid um thing the lockdowns you know and the and the supply chain limitations you saw people who wanted to go out and if they wanted to enjoy the freedom to get what they wanted there was a string attached right you had to to comply with certain prerequisites um you can say whatever you

want to say on this yeah just so you know yeah yeah you can say the vaccine's killing everybody you're allowed to say that. It's no big deal. It's not killing everybody. No, no, I'm just using it as an example. Yeah, no. Yeah, no, it's OK. So, yeah, they you know, they locked us all down and said, yeah, you got to go take a jab if you want to go to the store.

Right. You know, it is all sorts of crap. And they were the point is, is that that should wake people up to the idea that if you are in a situation where the government is going to be your primary source of sustenance, there's going to be strings attached to it. Right. And we'd love to think that we have a benevolent, favorable government that's going to maintain our republic in the event of a massive crisis. But I think they tend to skew towards not. but I think they tend to skew towards not. My favorite, Jason, my favorite was when fat Chris Christie told everybody to get off the beach. You're killing people. Get off the damn beach.

And then the drone came out and caught him on the same beach with his family. The whole beach was cleared out, and he was just sitting there with his fat Kingy up there oh that was my that was one of my the top highlights of covid was chris christy clearing the beach so he could go chill down there with his family i loved it it was like i love all i love all people but i'm just saying if you look like chris christy you'd probably want the beach cleared if you were taking your shirt off. I'm just saying. But AOC going down to Florida, you know, all that stuff.

Oh, it doesn't count. I'm in Florida. Oh, what? Great. No, but honestly, it really was great. It was great for people to see what these guys would do when it really all came. When they locked you up in your house, this is what they'll do. when it really all came, when they locked you up in your house, this is what they'll do.

And it was important for them, for the veil to be lifted and go like, oh, I got to start thinking for myself here because this is not the fantasy I thought it was. Yeah. Well, you mean our government doesn't love us? They love taxing us, I think. I don't know. My kids still believe in Santa Claus, so we got that. There you go. I don't. You know, but it did wake people up. And I think what more importantly was it was a reassessment. So so I do like the topic because you brought it up. I didn't pick that topic, but I thought it was a great topic. You know, why is it becoming so mainstream? I'm like, gosh, of course it's becoming mainstream because all of a sudden people had to go without stuff, know and you had a lot of people that moved out people who had uh um uh some ability still you know people aren't as lazy as they i mean i know we give a lot of crap to people in urban areas because you don't have a car i live on a ranch what's wrong with you and it's like uh no you know everybody can't but they a lot of people have it in them you know to go out and and to be self-sufficient. I think that's so important. And what you're seeing is an interest in people saying, hey, there's so many factors I see causing this. But what I know is it isn't just about surviving, you know, the next two weeks.

It isn't about canned goods or what's in my freezer. It's about what's going to sustain me while I can help get on my feet and, you know, integrate into some other larger community. I mean, it's realistic to people now, the idea that an EMP could shut down the entire country and send us back to the Stone Age. I don't think that's a far-fetched thing anymore. And I think people see that. And that's just one example. Yeah, it's a show. Obama's told us.

Yeah, but, you know, you turn around and you have solar flare. It doesn't matter what it is. The point is that people realize how vulnerable they are. Right. You know, and they're just like, I don't like this. I don't like this feeling in this and being dependent on others. We're a great country with great people that I think know what it's like to be self-sufficient and how important that is and how much that means for the survival and success of your family. I think that's where the depression and suicide are coming from, Jason. I think they're living up to the expectations of comfort and convenience. And they know in their heart and in their soul that like, man, I could do more. I should be doing more like I'm capable of more. doing more like i'm capable of more and i imagine if you're not striving you know that the vicissitudes of life will definitely wear you down and and make you depressed if your whole life is i go to this job i hate and then i spend the rest of my night on my phone and i got kids i don't get to see or whatever bag of you know shit you're carrying around it has to be balanced out by you know really striving

for something and working hard for things i think that's what what i think that's really what's kept me engaged in the prepping world for so long you know i definitely got here out of fear but what's kept me here is like substance plateaus and plateau you know what i mean all these different you know i call it the river with many tributaries because that's what I think prepping really is. And it just keeps you going. It keeps you motivated, keeps you learning and striving, man. And, you know, you seem just like the type of guy who's mid-strive. We live in a vapid society, you know, we do. And I am not going to disagree with you that I think that depression went through the roof. A lot of it was people realizing just how isolated they really were. You know, they think they live in this comfortable world of the Internet. And then when that's all they had, they all of a sudden realized that they missed a sense of community. Right. But also, they don't have any substance in their life. And that's what the prepping world does have. I will tell you that it's because it isn't just about, I mean, sure you have your people with their bunkers full of stuff, right?

And they have the means to do that and congrats to them. And that's awesome. But for a lot of people, I think it's about being able, it's more than that. It's about applying a skill or learning a new skill. Or I meet people who just tell me, oh, you know what I learned to do was this. And it would just be the weirdest and most inane thing. And you think, Oh, wait a minute, that would be really useful if everything fell apart. And you just like, Oh, you're a blacksmith for fun.

That sounds really stressful. Oh wait, man, you're right. What are we going to have if we didn't? And you can actually make stuff. Wow. Okay. And, and I'm just using a stupid example. But, you know, I never thought if you'd asked me 10 years ago if I would be learning how to can, you know, I would have said you were insane. phenomenon where everybody was like we're making sourdough at home because we're bored that was like there was something in their in their dna from the pioneer days that was going off and they're like dude you gotta learn how to do something other than play xbox you gotta know how to do something it's almost like nobody played it's like nobody played oregon trail growing up and they didn't realize that if you don't have all that stuff you die of snake bite or dysentery right so uh just all these people i I was like, wait a minute.

I need to learn how to do stuff. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. And that is the best part of this community. It really is. And as I've met people, it isn't just on the, I don't even like to use the word prepping, but on those who in that direct community,

it's being going out and spending a lot of time with branchers and farmers. You know, you really get the difference between those who were doing it for a profit or because they fell into a family business and those who take great pride in it, you know, and, and, and the things they do to a lot of people have gone to sustainable, uh, uh, branching and things like that. So, uh, but it's But it's across the area, the people you meet and just knowing the different culture that they bring. It's different than the rest of the world. And more people are waking up to it, and I love it. The beef industry always kind of strikes me as that.

It always strikes me as kind of like a big brimmed hat wearing, very prideful sort of, you know, pride in the process, generational. You know, I don't know if this is even true or if it's just sort of a little caricature I developed in my own head. But it seems like a rare thing for a guy to be like, I want to grow up and start a cattle farm. You know what I mean? It just seems like one of those things where you have like generations of people doing it. And, you know, I don't know if that's true or not. You probably could speak to that. Well, I mean, it's both. So our our primary ranch, I say that because we're looking at a second generational family right now. But our primary ranch is, gosh, 120 years they've been in business. You know, it's and it only passes to one child.

You know, it's and it only passes to one child. And if they just they've done an amazing job and they take such pride in it. That's Bernard Beef. They have just, you know, Blair and her husband, they just do an amazing job down there. And you're like, oh, why did why is it so different than other places? And then when I go and meet other places, I say, oh, you don't care as much. I can tell. I can tell this isn't a source of pride and i've been to many states i go meet people you know people were getting our bison from it wasn't

because of the only people that have bison you know we flew out to ranches and went met and walked around i want to see what they're doing and why they do it do that why do they care and and it tells a lot and it tells a lot in the quality product you get from them as well yeah that's a really cool concept, man. You know, the beef concept makes sense, but I don't think even in my wildest dreams I would have thought I have freeze-dried bison on my shelf for when it all goes awry. Or maybe not, you know. I mean, the funny thing about being a prepper, you can probably speak to it too, is just you wind up using a bunch of the stuff that you think you're putting away for doomsday, and it starts getting integrated into your lifestyle. You know, like it just becomes sort of a part of your lifestyle.

I think what you do is obviously you use what you have, but then you get curious about it. You're like, oh, well, you know, I said this. This thing said it would be good for, I i mean we take 25 years on the bag and if you hold it you know if you store it properly meaning in a closet uh it's it's good for that long but people sit there and go oh i mean inflation is so bad i don't think that in three years uh anybody's going to have any survival food left but the point is is that you know it is good if you can find good products. And when you talk about it, even like how much of your preserves have you used if you can, you know, I know we use some of ours already because it's supposed to sit in there for like 10 years or five years. I can't. My wife tells me this stuff on the canning. But, you know, I love it.

Yeah. Kind of open it up now. Sorry. Terrible with the dehydrator. I mean, the dehydrator i mean the dehydrator that stands no chance like i have no no real surplus dehydrated anything because i just am i love eating that stuff well it's definitely again source right you know where it came from yeah that's the big deal yeah it was hard for us when we started this again it was so it was like three things that

we were trying to solve at once and one of the things was again quality right but it that takes it takes a lot to get to a point where you're doing something and you think uh no like i would serve this to my family right now that's that's the goal it's not the hope it's the goal and we said we're not really going to scale this up unless we can do this and when we found that we could do it, we were happy. But it's still, you know, you want to eat good food. You don't want to eat junk. And I think so many people, I don't know. McDonald's isn't going to exist in the apocalypse, folks.

Probably likely to cause it. I don't know if McDonald's is going to exist for much longer. It's so expensive now. I heard, uh, watching people online. I will admit I went and got a, I was traveling and I had no choice.

Went, bought a subway sandwich and it was $17 and 80 cents. Get out of here. No, I swear to you. And I couldn't believe it. What was it? Like a two footer or something like that?

Yeah. It's five foot long. Right? No, it was a, it was a single foot long sub. I couldn't believe it. And I just, I couldn't believe I ate there first of all,

because I don't think any of that's real food. But just the idea, it was like it was better than eating at McDonald's, right? They're going to kill themselves with prices like that. That's what, what choice do they have, right? You have hyperinflation going on right now. And I don't think people realize that. Again, when you want to talk about

what that's going to do to our supply chain, people will not be able to afford. This is insane, but we're going to go back to the point where you cannot afford to eat meat every day. And that's exactly what they want. You know, they they want you to the week, the less animal proteins you're eating, the less strength you have to fight back. Right. And they're going to. Oh, hey, man, they gave you an impossible burger and it gave you impossible boobs

if you're a guy, right? There you go. That's truth. And it's just, they found, oh, wait, you can lactate from eating too much soy? Yeah, no wonder that we've been telling you that. And they do the same thing

in lab-grown meat. I mean, first of all, I don't know who's trying that. Who's going to be the idiot that wants to see what happens after 10 years with that? But the point is, I mean, come on, you know, they don't want you getting the parts that they're not gonna let you

get the parts that make you stronger yeah my favorite is my favorite right now with the beef and the attack on beef and you know the let's move them to lab grown nonsense is that zuckerberg i don't know if you've heard about his cattle ranching exhibitionism but he has got a cattle farm of his own and what he wants to do or what he is doing is feeding his cows macadamia nuts exclusively and he's hoping that this is going to make them cows just the upper echelon of beef. And, you know, for King Lizard to be doing something like that, that is just hilarious to me. Like, don't eat beef. It's destroying the planet.

I'm going to have these ones over here that are fed macadamia nuts and truffles. Don't worry about that. Nothing to see here. First of all, I really was waiting for the punchline. I genuinely thought that was a joke it's only macadamia nuts and uh that's hilarious because first of all i want to imagine how much what like carbon footprint it is to fly macadamia nuts around the world to feed your private cow stock and he's like it'll be the best why like does he just have this big thing for macadamia nut cookies?

And he was like, you know what I'm going to do? I'm only going to have animals that eat macadamia nuts and then they'll taste like it. It's just the dumbest thing I've ever heard. That's the kind of stupid stuff that people do. I bet you idiots are going to buy it too. This is NBCNews.com. Zuckerberg said he needs a lot of acres

of macadamia trees because his cows each eat 5,000 to 10,000 pounds of feed annually. This is the guy. This is the guy who's going to ban you because, you know, you're selling beef. I've got a lot to even say the reasons why. That's insane. That is genuinely insane. And, you know, I want to laugh at that, but I also just think, like think like wait i want to feed some cows some macadamia nuts and see what it tastes

like oh i'm sure it's delicious yeah i bet you it is i'm sure it is i'm not yelling at him for doing something that's going to make it no no it's just the hypocrisy is so phenomenal you can't it can't stay inside of you you know it's like al go Like Al Gore uses more power consumption than like an entire small town. Exactly. They fly jets everywhere. Like I have to use Skype to talk to somebody because I'm not worthy of using the plane, but they just take the little private plane somewhere. Yeah, that's right. I don't know, man.

You know, everybody says these are all conspiracy theories, and I'm like, no, it's just a conspiracy. There's a difference. Oh, there you go. Yeah. I mean, it makes perfect sense, doesn't it? Now, if that does it, they don't. Yeah, go ahead. No, I just say they don't want you to have anything. They don't. You know, they did. But here's the crazy part to me about all of this. They've they've never hidden their agenda ever once they literally tell you you will eat bugs you will own nothing and be happy you know we're gonna have no borders and everybody

and they're and everyone's just staring at them going well i mean except for us right they don't mean us they need everybody else yeah uh but they go do it and then everyone's like what happened uh Oh, yeah. I like watching the governors do that right now. That's my favorite thing in the mayors. I like watching them go, oh, no, it really happened. There's illegal aliens everywhere. What happened in my sanctuary city? That's my favorite right now these days.

I love those guys. How dare you? How dare you accuse them of not loving their brothers? That is just messed up. No, they're open arms, man. That's what sanctuary means. No, but you're talking about instability. So why is it so popular now?

These are signs, you know, that broken windows theory, right? So it's the whole signs of people see that society is falling apart. You don't have to be crazy to see the spending, the deficit, the wars that are starting everywhere. You know, the essentially the breakdown of our borders. I mean, that's, you know, in civil affairs, we actually have terms for this on the country's stability and the breakdown of its national borders is one of the indicators that society is collapsing it's a major indicator and that's what we have in this country it's insane and people just like they look around shocked and they're like what what happened

they're going dude this is what you voted for this is what's happening and you guys are acting like it just snuck up and bit you and in reality know, these policies have been in effect for years. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's interesting. People are waking up to it though, and they're prepping at least. So yeah, I think some are, I think some are. I have had through 2020, I'll tell you the truth, Jason, I had several conversations because my OPSEC in, in person is better than my OPSEC on the Internet, obviously. But I have had conversations with run-of-the-mill guys there to fix heaters and fix roofs and things like that that were kind of chilling. They were kind of chilling. You know, they were like, well, you know, I would talk to them, you know like a somebody who's hired you for service you

know how you family that kind of stuff yeah you live and then i would ease into the question of you know it's crazy what's going on around there huh i mean it's like and i'd like to get their perspective and i had two got two different guys on two different occasions just say well i mean i got guns i'll just go take whatever i need if it gets that bad you know what i mean and i was just like oh okay yeah that's a that's a plan i guess that's i've actually heard that answer more times from people than i have i mean seriously i go that so what what are you doing you know they say oh the world's great well i got a firearm and a bunch of ammo and I'm thinking, oh, so your your your plan is to be a thief. Oh, OK, cool. Your plan is to get shot by somebody and they take your gun.

Hey, man, you want to I would not want to come to my house. I just put it that way. But I mean, overlapping fields of fire. But still, it is the idea that somebody there are a lot of people that truly think like that. And it's a really not. Oh, I'm going to learn how to hunt and skin and clean my my game so that I can eat it safely. They're going to literally sit here. Well, I'll just go. Guys, what happens when all that food is gone? You know, it's not that the grocery stores are going to be empty very quickly. There's only two weeks of food in any distribution center. So what are you going to do with that? You're going to go fight the military with your little handgun there? You know what I mean?

You're going to sneak up on an Army base and go steal some MREs? No, man. You're going to go get in line with everybody else, or you're going to get shot trying to steal somebody something. Yeah. Yeah, that's more like it. So here's my question, though, now all these years later, because when i was coming up before 2020 and talking about prepping and stuff there was always this contingent of guys and they may have been the same guys but there was always a contingent of guys that were like always very angry that i was

a prepper you know what i mean and they would they would say things like we so scared of we so paranoid about you know what I mean? All that kind of stuff. And I always, I always looked at them and said, these guys know that they should be doing what I'm doing, but they're too prideful or too busy or think they're too busy to get it done. And now after listening to that response, it makes me think this is yet and this is smoke screen 2.0 where like they realize things are actually a mess and they can't lie to themselves about that anymore so their new

line of thinking is i'll lie to myself and say i'm gonna just use my guns to survive you know what i mean yeah it's i don't know you're gonna use your gun to become the victim of your own uh demise i just and i and by the way you should have firearms and you should be able to defend your home and maybe that should be a wake-up call to a lot of people to do that but well it has yeah that's gun ownership is crazy in the country right now man people are buying them they're deaf i don't know how to use them or not but they're buying yeah i i mean i think that there's uh this miss um again you talk about pride let's just say to anybody who's out there who's who's scared to take that first step what you don't it's real easy it's maslow's hierarchy of needs right you need uh

oxygen water food you know shelter shelter, uh, sanitation, there's things that you need to survive. And it's not hard to slowly start checking that off the list. And you, you shouldn't take it as a matter of, Oh, you were right. And I was wrong. And that hurts my feelings. So now I'm going to double down. It just, I don't care if I was right the whole time. I don't want, I already know I'm right. That's why my goal, life's goals are built around this, you know, is because I want to help as many Americans be as ready as they need to be.

And that's, and I already know I'm right. So maybe you guys should stop being worried about that. We're not going to laugh at you. We're going to sit here and say, oh, okay, cool. You know, when your buddy, you have friends out there

who probably made fun of you if they came to you all of a sudden and said, hey, how does this reverse osmosis thingy work? Or which one should I buy? Are you going to make fun of them or are you going to get excited about it? Oh, man. I got a story for you on this topic.

When in 2020, Business Insider and the New York Times interviewed me about several things pertaining to preparedness for, you know, the general public. And both of them wanted me to give a message to those who were unprepared. And they phrased the question like, do you feel vindicated because you were right about all this stuff? And I gave them the worst answers ever because I didn't even want them to put it. You know what I mean? I didn't even want none of us in the network, all the preppers that we knew,

none of us were like, ha ha, told you so. Glad you're punching each other over toilet paper. Like it never even crossed our minds. We were like, dude, we're on our grind. Like we are not worried about that. But it was crazy because both organizations were like that.

They both had that question in the list of questions for me, which was like, you know, say something mean about the people who are unprepared. And I'm like, what do you mean, like you, like the one emailing? I mean, the one talking to me right now. What do you have in your house? Yeah, you got like four cans of food and some SpaghettiOs, and you're just like, I'm prepared. No, I don't think that any of us are sitting here. Again, feeling vindicated would mean that we doubted what we were saying all along and here we are everyone was saying three years ago the world is going to get more unstable

under the biden regime administration that they were going to turn around and make things more unstable because we saw the same thing you know uh seven years ago under obama right and that's not a it doesn't have to be an us versus them thing it's just a foreign policy uh and it sucks so you know i don't i don't i'm not wagging my finger over my nose or whatever and saying neener neener right now i'm just like oh glad you guys finally see it how can i help you that's it that's that's that and that is so across the board with preppers man that's a wild thing that's one of the wildest thingsppers, man. That's a wild thing. That's one of the wildest things.

It's so rare that you run into one of these guys. I don't know if it's like the Christian element in there. I don't know if you're Christian, Jason, but there's some kind of a, it extends beyond that, because I wasn't really always a dyed-in-the-wool Christian when I was prepping either, but there's something in there that's very Christ-like, I'll tell you that much, which is like, okay, you've come seeking this knowledge and this salvation. Dude, come on under the tent. You know what I mean?

It's very rare. They're like, get out of here. It's teach a man to fish, right? So Christ, that's what he commanded. Teach a man to fish, not, you know, because if you give him a fish, you've held him for one day, but you teach them to fish and you've fed them for a lifetime. And that's so I do see that. I mean, I'm I'm a Christian, but it isn't what I mean. I would say, which obviously that drives everything in my life.

But you get my point. It's not it isn't that I feel, well, I guess I should give up some knowledge. It's that we're excited that people want to because like you just pointed out the more people that we help repair are the less people that think they're going to grab a firearm and come to my house and steal from me right or even or even just put their family in the worst possible position you know nobody goes out and gets killed trying to break into somebody's house to feed his family and now he's got a family that has no dad no man in the family and they're trying to survive now and they're already out of food like what yep there's no worse situation no nobody

wants to see and i think that's across the whole uh culture here and i call it the prepper culture but the the entire thing is this idea again if of self-reliance and and self-sustainability and if if you can provide people with them and now here's the going to be the shock the real shock is going to be when nobody has anything you know like the the common things that they're so used to and if you don't know how to make soap or if you don't know where you can trade for it i think that's going to be the largest shock for even most preppers uh if you will but but again, if you have the basics down, and again, part of why we did the company was so,

hey, you can have sirloin steak or you can have tenderloin, but in the end, there's not going to be that many options and you're not always going to have that ability to just reach for another amenity. And I think that'll be a shock. But I think outside of that, you're seeing more and more people who understand the basic necessities they need to survive and they understand how to get them and how to begin to prepare their families to do with less.

I don't know if I think it'd just be a shock for a lot of kids when they turn on their phone and it doesn't work, you know, or they turn on the faucet and water doesn't come out. I mean, really imagine that shock. That's a big one, man. The water don't come out of the faucet. Or, you know what is most likely to happen, I think, with the faucets is, just like everything else in our society right now, do we trust it? You know, if several localities start getting cyber hacked and, you know, it happened in Florida. They almost released, uh, speaking of soap, uh, what, what's the chemical caustic. I can't think of what it's called, but it's the same lie. They released lie into the water anyway, but they, they turned the site. So it was in

Florida. Hackers got into the system. They raised the amount of lie that was going to go into the water to a level that would have been dangerous. person on staff caught it and i started thinking to myself you know i know that what's going on right now with cyber attacks has to be absolutely uncanny because of what's happening in the middle east and russia and china um and and it only takes i think like how many attacks where water gets poisoned and people drink poisoned water does it take before people go, OK, I'm not using the tap water anymore? Oh, and first of all, that's probably the first time the government ever stopped itself from lying to us. I just want to point that out. It's how many before we won't ship our foodstuffs across rails or delays because we have to lower speeds by 20 or 30 miles an hour in order to prepare for whatever.

A lot of cheap things that people can do to disrupt. And we're not even meaning it could be intentional or unintentional. We see what weather disruptions do, right? But I just don't think people realize how precarious our food supply system is, our supply chain system in general. And I don't think it was like somebody saying, oh, you shouldn't kill cows. You should get your beef from the store like I do. Z thing. This woman goes out and says, hey, I think it's horrible that you guys kill cows. And I go to the store and get my beef. Why can't you do that as well? Where are these people's parents at, Jason? How come the parents never swoop down and go, dude, delete that right now. It's so stupid. You know what I mean? I think there's a lot of drugs. I'm hoping there's an excuse. I'm genuinely hoping that. But, you know, hey, what can I say? We have Congress members that think that, you know, islands can are that islands can flip over if you move equipment around.

So there's just, you know, there's a lot of people out there that aren't that that it's where people don't know where their food comes from. And I feel a sense of moral responsibility to sit here and be a, you know, one of those people that can act as a safeguard. I think that's again, we all have to find a role in life, you know, and find a way that we can contribute. And I'm a capitalist and I think that you should contribute in a way that benefits yourself to the maximum of your own potential. list. And I think that you should contribute in a way that benefits yourself to the maximum of your own potential. But at the same time, we have a responsibility, just as I felt a moral obligation to serve because I could. And I still feel the same way to do everything I can to help people prepare because a lot of people don't have the means, the ability, the knowledge or even the foreknowledge of what events might lead to that, that would allow them to prepare their families in the first place. Yeah, beef is such a great thing too because it's one of those, you know,

you can get away with a lot of protein production in small places. Cattle just ain't one of those things, you know. I know a lot of people, they do rabbits, they do goats, they do chickens. I do chickens in a suburb, very small area. And, you know, there's some things you can pull off as a prep or beef ain't one of them, you know, in a small area. But even and even if you don't were to spread it out and say, I mean, again, you got to realize just what animal husbandry is and how many cows you have to have in order to be able to slaughter one per year you know and as you go through those numbers you start to think oh my goodness like we can't it requires a pretty a large area it requires uh even and if you're doing grass fed and you're just you know bartering with your neighbor again who has that kind of property in a suburban area or in an urban area and they don't it's gonna it's man i am not looking forward to when the lights first out because it's gonna look like locusts coming across uh you know the plains at first no for sure yeah definitely

if they make it that far if they make it that far it's like the walking dead i don't know it's like it's a lot of ground to cover to get out of the city and traipse across the country with no water and no food i again man i have no concept of what people think. You know, most people think they can walk 100 miles in a day. I was watching this. How far do you think you could walk in a day if you had to? People are like, oh, 100 miles. I'm like, what?

100 miles? A hundred? That's astounding. I've done back-to-back forced truck marches. What are you carrying? Nothing? You're just in a pair of sneakers just running across America like Forrest Gump, you know, like going to a cow. Most people probably top out about five miles running and then the next day they can't move.

You know what I mean? Forget about the next day. You think about how many times you got to stop. We take so many things for granted, just the idea of sanitation, you know. And again, so it's, I mean, we could go down this massive rabbit hole, but that is the point. Like there is no stopping on the idea of sanitation you know and again so it's it's i mean we could go down this massive rabbit hole but that is the point like there is no stopping on the side of the road there's nothing there every time you stop you gotta worry you know i mean so where are you migrating to anyway and and there's just so many questions they have for people who have no plan

you know it's are you just hoping are you hoping that the government is the same government that you know uh can't i can't do, quite literally can't do anything, and you think they're going to feed you, that you're a priority? Poof. Right? I'm trying to be honest here. Like, do you really think, like, they'll do enough to pacify some urban areas to keep, you know, large revolutions from taking place. But, man, no, they're're gonna go back to their bases and take care of what they need to they'll call it national defense they'll call it whatever but

when it starts to fall apart there you're you're not a priority oh yeah you're on your own man we don't just say it to scare you and sell books no but literally i just think that's what i think that's what people think oh so you started a company because you could take you know so you could take advantage of of you know it's's a quite like, well, really, is that your thought process? Like, is that how people do you realize what we had to do to start this company and how much work it took? the right things and keep this the utter calamity from happening we still need solutions for these big problems you know the free trade industry is growing say it's going to be at 40 uh 44 billion dollars um coming up here in in the next two years it's it's just growing exponentially insane and the reason why is because it's solution right fuel cost you want to lower your carbon footprint there you go i take away 75% of the fuel cost. Yeah, right.

I mean, that's huge just to get meat to real meat to people. I mean, yeah, we don't have a problem. We don't have a problem with killing off. And I don't I would never freeze dry a horse. But you know what I mean? We have wild areas out here where people could we got bison herds. I talked to bison ranchers. If they could, they could grow these herds massive. You talk about solving some world food supply problems.

Can you imagine? Now, here's a question. I have two things real quick. The first one I got is kind of funny, and the second one is very serious because I don't know. Okay, first one. You said utter calamity. I do a lot of writing for a living, so sometimes word combinations stick in my head. I don't know if you want to coin that, put that on the website, but that seems like it fits to me. Utter calamity. I have so many beef puns, it's horrible.

Oh, okay. I got you. So here's the other question, though, and this is a legitimate question. I don't know how much research will cost to figure it out but you're talking about cutting the fuel cost of shipping beef 75 that is probably worth taking up the flagpole and seeing what kind of carbon offset that really equals out to i mean ken have you figured out how to offset all these farts i mean i say it i say in jest, but I also say it in truth. Like, what would they be able to say if you said my product ships and completely offsets the methane carbon footprint because of the fact that the beef is freeze-dried?

You know, cuts the fuel cost. So there's one that's very interesting. But the only problem I have with that is giving them the validity of their argument that we have a methane problem. But overall, yeah, you've got to ask yourself. And again, my real answer is I don't think they want people to have access to it. They don't. Of course they don't. Right. So what you do is you go around people. And eventually you reach a point where you get to control the marketplace, whether it's in the other way around, which means you control your supply chain and you're able to lower costs even further and develop a way to get it to even more people, which again, as you know, just slowly, slowly lowers all that. And eventually it becomes something that people don't think of as being an alternative.

You know, it used to be some things were preserved because they had to be right. Cause we didn't have refrigeration or whatever, but a lot of things people just accept as normal. Now, um, it's the result of somebody saying, Hey, was this, this process is too expensive, but, um, if we make it normal enough, uh, it will be something like reconstituting, you know, I mean, my gosh, uh, milk and other things like that. It's just, Hey, we can do this at a scale at which it isn't now the problem is you got the lack of quality product to start with in a lot of places you know when they do free i don't know what this i guess that was a thought in my head was that uh you know hey it's i've only ever had crappy excuse my language but crappy beef

you know whenever it's been freeze-dried before or whenever it's come from an mre you gotta be starving to death to enjoy it right and i i guess i just never thought that it's supposed to taste good it's actually supposed to be a quality probably wasn't until we started doing it ourself that we we realized there's actually you know there's a goal there to make it taste like a quality product so now that i know that i just think why aren't we doing this with more stuff? Why can't we help feed the world but in a way that benefits everybody? And the resources are there. We're just not doing it.

I love it. I think the shipping idea behind it is tremendous. I mean that is the way that we have lowered costs in so many different industries is by focusing in on the shipping. And if you can get literally the highest quality beef. I mean, how many people have even ever eaten the highest quality beef? It's not like it's a given. Yeah, I mean, prime cattle from Texas, in my opinion, is about as great as the beef gets, right? And so when you're talking about, you know, it about as great as the beef gets. Right. And, and so when you're talking about, you know, it's graded cattle for that reason. And it's, and again, we're talking about

a single knock facility. So these are all hand slaughtered, hand carved. I don't think anybody, I don't think anybody's ever died. I don't, I know no one does it, but I think the idea of it, it just escapes people until you really kind of like break down the process and think about how you get your beef right now. I mean, I know where most ground beef that's inside of a store comes from. And I think if most people knew where their ground beef in a store comes from, they would never get ground beef again. I'm serious. I mean, I know what's in it and I know what people use. You're 100 percent right.

I mean, and the beef you're getting from a lot of these prep companies are, are, we're from, you know, places. It's, it's the stew meat, the worst part of the cow. I understand.

I don't think anybody ever thought like, Hey, let's freeze dry filet and tender one. You know what I mean? Let's freeze dry a ribeye. Let's, let's get the tri tip and the sirloin and the picanha and the, and the brisket and,

and make, you know, original steak. And people are like, what? You're freeze drying brisket. I'm like, no, it's just, man, of steak. And people are like, what? You're freeze-drying brisket? I'm like, no, man, of course. What do you want to eat?

I don't want to eat crap in the apocalypse. You want to eat like shin-shaved beef minced? If I take my gun and rob somebody's house, they better have quality food there is all I'm saying. Before I come in here, do you guys got, what's on the menu why did i come why did i bother buying a gun if you guys weren't gonna have tenderloin darn it no i mean but you know it's such a horrible thought again i've never you know you're saying it it just puts that in a whole new perspective every single person i was at a gun show registering

people to vote on saturday and i'm just, I never really thought about the idea that half the people here are just thinking, well, all I got is me and trusty Betsy here. We're good. Yeah, that's a scary thought. So where do we go again, Jason, to get our hands on some of that awesome beef? Oh, go to prepperbeef.com. So we made it easy, prepperbeef.com. And you can go over to the website.

We have, there's great deals on there. I think there's a coupon code on there now. you can go over to the website. We have, uh, there's great deals on there. I think there's a, um, a coupon code on there now. I think it's on the website, so I don't want to just say that, but that sounds horrible that I don't know that, but they change it.

And so, yeah, but it's, yeah, prepper beef.com is where it's at. And we're real, real, real proud of it.

And if anybody's got, they can follow along. We don't send out, uh, spammy emails or anything like that, but, we are, uh, adding new products new products like i said bison is just coming out this month and uh and we like to take in recipes we are trying to find a recipe winner right now to send out uh everybody who gets our products will get that recipe so uh we do some fun stuff

to try and incorporate the rest of the community but But we're proud of, you know, what we do. But more importantly, proud that we prepping is no longer considered a dirty word anymore. You know, it's this is a thing where people now understand us and we're proud to be able to be on the paradigm shift on that one, you know. Hallelujah, man. I've been waiting for that for a long time for people to finally say you know this just makes sense we should be doing it what do you mean i should have food to eat tomorrow yeah yeah right exactly right this concept of me not eating out at a restaurant every night of the week is foreign i thought the fridge was for corona i got this real this real great somebody asked me the other day uh on an interview they said, so how much food should people have? And I just looked at what I said. How long do you want to live?

Oh, my God. That's so good. That should that should be a T-shirt. I might steal that. How much food should I have? How long do you want to live? How long do you want to live for? Geez. That seems just like that's dark. I said, no, that's honesty. No, it's 100 honesty man it's crazy people don't think that way now you got a smart audience i'm sure they're doing it but they can't get themselves they're prepping ahead for and oh yeah man our audience the only reason prep is not just another four-letter word. One of the chat room folks. Appreciate that streak.

That's funny. That's a shirt too. But anyway, yeah, yeah, our audience is phenomenal. I mean, our audience is – I never even deserved to be a part of this group when I first started this, and they enveloped me lovingly in their arms and were like, it's okay, little failure. We'll get you into shape. Well, I got to tell you, I know this act like it was a short notice.

It wasn't that short a notice. I'm excited to be on here. And then when I told, you know, we just get to relax and talk about it, I was like, oh, finally. I don't have to sit here and look all like a mannequin as I talk about, you know, the details of, of, of, uh, freeze drying. Like this is, this is my, these are my, these are my people as well. And I get it. I mean, 99% of the audience,

uh, either has a freeze dryer or aspires to, you know what I mean? That's that. Oh yeah. So they get it. You say freeze dried beef there. They know exactly what, what it is and why they want it. I mean, it's, it's awesome. But, yeah, man, when you guys do the bison, come back on. Let us know. Oh, absolutely. I don't know how far out you are, but I'd love to have you guys on. No, I go up to back up to South Dakota next week to close it out.

We had to buy bison futures, but that train starts, and we got to get the bison down here and slaughtered. But, yeah, I'm excited about that either way. hey you know we can come back on anytime i i just i love having conversations about this because anytime you can share any information with anybody you never know what little nugget you might put out there and somebody will go i never thought about you know how you know figuring out gallons of water i need for sanitation in my house as well and that kind of stuff. You never know. It's a game changer. Every one of these conversations.

Well, I appreciate your time, Jason. This was an awesome conversation and sounds like you're doing great work, man. Check out PrepperBeef.com, guys, and see if you want to put some filet on the menu for Doomsday or, you know, next week. Depending on how you use your food storage it's worth a try we'll see you guys tomorrow tuesday the rising republic will be on l douglas hogan primed you know the deal all right man i'll talk to you soon thank you brother thank you for listening to the prepper broadcasting network where we promote self-reliance and independence.

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