The Prepper Broadcasting Network - R&R: Chicken Chunks White Cooked w/ Dave Jones, FutureDan , Ben Bankster, IC

Episode Date: April 21, 2025

The Rules, The Banter, and the Guys Together

This is the type of crap we need to talk about. They are going to cook up as you warm them though, you know what I mean? So they'll never be like, oh that's an egg, and now I'll cook it. Like they'll start to do, yeah. So it'll just be probably a consistency figuring out how much water. I can look at my, what I can look at when I get back and I'll send it to you guys is the powdered eggs that I have. Because I'm sure they got the directions on the back ratio. Those are precooked. Yeah they are precooked. Those are raw. Yeah that's a whole

another ball game. We'll have to figure it out. Do you want to do the introduction or you just gonna record it? No. No I'm not doing that. PB family, you are listening to the antics of the ration-a-ruin Stella Artois and Potsky, what's this called? Potska. Potska, as we sort of break down and unveil all the meals and rules and debate about how to rehydrate raw, freeze-dried eggs and all that good stuff. So we're just gonna kind of work through it all and you guys can pretend like you're sitting here in Dave's massage chair

living the life. Yeah I smell like chainsaw and sweat. We were just cutting some trees. We've been working outside all day, Maria and I. James came over and helped me pull down some trees that were shading the greenhouse. Yeah, can't have no shading on the greenhouse. You guys are lucky you don't have much shade at all around here. I cut the trees down. Yeah, I mean, years passed. Yeah, that's, I'm in the boat now with shade where the trees are massive. They gotta come down but you're not expansive. People are all up there like, how many thousands do you have to take that tree down?

I'm like, oh god. So I had one right out here. You could probably still see the stump and it was massive. And we laid that baby right down the driveway. Wow. Good work. That was scary. It was.

You held your breath. That's right next to the house. And they're in the bedroom watching it. Oh, god. They're like right where it could kill them. And they're watching it. And it goes, krrrrr the chainsaw stopped I think that was God saying pay attention oh so I said wait Alex I'm gonna go get the wedges to make sure it goes down the driveway so I went and got two wedges and I took the chainsaw starter back up and I said, now Alex you pound these

wedges in as I'm cutting. And Roger, the guy before Larry, he's pulling with the tractor with a rope. Oh he's pulling it. Yeah he's pulling it and his front tires are coming off. Oh man. Yeah so as Alex is feel about are there any qualms with like the eating and the fooding and you know the time of day or not time of day but day of the week I think we got that pretty well hammered out what we can and cannot eat. What do you eat? One set one week. I mean if you eat it all up at the beginning of the week, you're screwed. Right. Yeah, that is gonna be an interesting thing. Should we not talk about that and just

strategize that on our own and talk about it after? Yeah, or we could we could put little daily audio caches in there. Yeah, I was thinking about an R&R report at the end of the week that I'd like to do. That would be fun. I mean, if you guys are up for it, I know it's hard to get you together at the same time, but it would be fun. I'm definitely gonna drop one or two of my own.

Well, let's do that then. That'll be good. Yeah. Hopefully we get together once, at least for a capstone event or, you know, two of us get together or three of the four of us could get together in middle of May or something. We have always done that. We're going to make that happen. Absolutely. This is Cozinat. Cozinat is going around the room ladies and gentlemen.

We're enjoying the good food and beer before it's too late. And walnut and oh my god. That's like huge chunks of chocolate right in it. And really really good. This is not the way May is going to move. No. Marina is having mercy on our souls here. This is the opposite of May. It'll be chocolate pudding at best.

Well with stream yards, it's a whole new paradigm. Four of us can haul in together. True. That's a good point. Yeah. Well, Patriot Power Hour is Tuesday nights. Oh, that's good. What other night?

Saturdays, if we get together for an actual field event, that's a different broadcast. And then one more during the week. I think that'd be cool to do one whatever day works best for everybody, Friday nights or something like that. Friday nights will be tough because that's a that's a fasting day. That would be the right time to do it. Yeah that'd probably be good. Yeah. So then are we all sticking to the same that was kind of my question are we all sticking to the same days of fasting and days of not fasting? I think we should stick to the same product. Product definitely. For that week.

Yeah. But however your system works. Because you could be fasting on a Friday, you might not be fasting on a Friday. Ben, you might not eat the whole month. I don't know what you got up your sleeve. I know you've been training for this. A little bit. That's the question.

It's like do we get 6,000 calories a week and we can eat whenever we want or originally we were saying you get 2,000 calories on Monday, 2,000 on Wednesday, 2,000 on Friday, nothing on Tuesday and Thursday. Well I think we should just give the 6,000 calories. I like that. Do whatever you want. Yeah. Okay. And then we report back Friday how it went. Yeah. Oh, I got so hungry on I had to break into the next one. Yeah, I like that. Something like that. No cheating allowed. No. I think that would be fun because you could change the wheat stuff too. Like you said, you could go every other day. Yeah. Or you could take a big-ass break and really fast and then eat like a king the next three days, you know

Well, and you said cheating so I want to get this thing down About the other food. Okay, because this this is pretty self-explanatory. Yeah, the other Question because I could live on hard-boiled eggs really I mean. So I think that's the split between cash bound is what we were calling it. Yeah. Where there is no other food besides what you can hunt or gather legally. Versus Homestead, and that you guys are able to source from your own.

Cultivator. Someone who's making their own food. So I'm not going to have any other food except the 6,000 calories, except for a whole lot of fish, Yeah. Or I'm screwed pretty much. Yeah. I'm with you with that. Right. And we were thinking that James and Dave who are in reality cultivating right now.

Yeah. I can go out there and pull you a salad right now. You saw my stuff. I can. That's Maria. It'd be a lie. I say it's my stuff. It's actually her stuff.

She feeds it to me. I can see, I can see that. And I parked right next to the chicken coop. So here would be the question. Future Dan and I, we're doing the pretty strict, three days on, two days off, actually really four days off, because you're also fasting on the weekend

unless you can hunt. And we're going to be hunting hunting hopefully some turkey and go fishing but I find some mushrooms yeah supposedly some species that might be around it's more like little brains right Maria yeah the ones that look like so now the question is let's say James yeah you have 6,000 calories for that week of storable food are you gonna have another 3,000 of your cold demand or food so you still being a big calorie deficit kind of in the boat with Dave as far as we could be a track oh that's a good call or you can only do track no I ate two eggs I wouldn't be

hard a salad from the garden yeah I wouldn't be hard. A salad from the garden. Yeah, that wouldn't be bad. I killed a bear. So I've been watching them deer in my backyard contemplating. So bring it back to the point of ration or ruin. There's got to be a rationing going on. Well that's kind of what I'm kind of hung up on. You're not eating that your full amount. That right kind of what I'm hung up. We are simulating an event where Despite your best plans Things have gone badly enough that you are to the point where whatever your reserves are whether you're a cultivator or you are cash-bound You can't go on percent right it's like the old days with the sailing ships You know crew goes on rations because right we're running out of food yeah so for me part of this I'm

less focused on the nutrition how it tastes and how I feel after I eat it now I feel by not eating it of course I'm gonna do the DAC I'm gonna talk about this yeah but like other things I've done in my life, this is kind of one of those prove it to myself kind of events. I've never, and I'm a veteran, I was in the United States Army, but I never went without food. US Army is pretty good about-

They feed you. They feed you. Morale is important, you get fed. So worst off I've ever been is Ranger school with, under that pressure and you know, it's it's less food But but it's still some food this in May for prepper broadcasting network rational rooms We a lot less food a lot less food for a lot longer period of time Yeah

and what I'm looking for by Memorial Day is to have a Confidence that if I ever get thrust into this situation, just like the last Azure Highland where we did essentially simulated bug out from a suburban area, if ever put into that situation, it's not going to be good. I don't want to ever want to be there. But if I am ever there, I'll probably be with people who have never even thought about simulating it. In order to lead them through it, having done some kind of simulation of it beforehand will give me the moral courage at the time to make the best of matters. So that's kind of like what I was

thinking about is this is the fourth Azure Highland and rather than me just another physical challenge like it has been in the past, let's challenge ourselves in a new dimension. Let's have food deprivation. Now, again, this is not real world. So this is a simulation. So there are safety measures in place. And for example, myself, I'm taking protein supplement every day. I'm at the age where if I went full up starving myself, I'm going to lose muscle, I'm never going to get back. You and Ben have a shot at regaining that muscle mass.

Dave and I, that's just biology, right? So I'm supplementing with protein drinks every single day but the carbohydrates and coming off of the sugars that I normally eat oh yeah that first week you're gonna be mean it's not gonna be something easy your family's gonna be like you're sleeping in the shed for ration of real we're rationing in the bedroom also because coping with that is what I hope we learn how to do. You want another? Oops, you got a spoon in there. Since we're on it, you want to talk about energy drinks.

When I teach, I have one that has no calories. Okay. But I definitely need it. I really think that the crux of ration are ruined. I think we keep it personal as opposed to trying. There's a piece of my mind that wants to make it somewhat similar across the board and then kind of almost competitive and then I think the best way to handle it is the best way to handle it is to make it personal.

It has to be. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because our anatomy and our biology are not the same and our circumstances at home are not the same. Well, my personal struggle is I kind of want to suffer with you guys. Yeah. In our circumstances at home, we're not the same. My personal struggle is I kind of want to suffer with you guys.

You know what I mean? Like, don't eat the eggs. Yeah, because there's, I don't know, it's that sort of brotherhood of suffering together, you know what I mean? And I don't know, there's something about that that's appealing. You could earn your calories, so you eat the 6,000, but you got to go like burn 2,000 calories on a hike to or eat your eggs of 2,000 calories or something like that earn your calories for you guys I'm gonna be doing a little bit of exercise and stuff. Nothing too strenuous because only 6,000 calories

You know, how does your system handle this? Can, you know, your brain function? Can I teach while this is all going on? Oh, it'll be wild. Yeah. So cultivators and cash bound, the major difference is you're gonna do something with food stuffs that you're creating at home that we're not. Just during the time. Right. That are being grown or being raised. Like candy, strawberries that we put up last year. Because that would be way on the down. Just during the time. And right now... So that's an exchange that's instead of the pre-packaged 6,000 calories, you might do 5,000 pre-packaged and do another thousand from something out of your stocks right is that what you envisioned? Well that's what I thought yeah oh okay that sounds better that's not what I thought I

thought we were doing no I thought we were doing four days cultivated three days cash bound that's why it felt so... Too easy. Right, exactly. Kind of like what Dave was saying. Well that's what I thought it was. That's why I keep saying this is going to be a piece of cake. No, no, no. I think the part about you don't eat on Tuesday, Thursday, or Saturday and Sunday. Then I like that. Unless you fish, hunt, or forage. Well, if you can take it off the land. Like I said, I can go get a salad right now. A salad, yeah.

And throw a couple hard-boiled eggs in there. Man, I'm golden. Okay, let's put the perimeter of where you're allowed to do that, half mile in any direction from here but not here. then what can you forge? Well, it'd be a little tougher. Yeah, but what about the eggs? We're not allowed to have eggs I would say that that's how your 6 000 base ratio. Oh, so you got to subtract it I kind of like that. I think i'd go that route. Okay now that's harder Yeah, and now we got four weeks May 3rd all the way to you know

Starts on a Saturday Saturday Saturday for consecutive Saturdays in May will turn over we got Mountain house right before us at our feet. We have a brand XMRE blue line Then you brought what now? Ready on ready our And we are also product reviewing Dave's homemade eggs and what else is in the back? Oh my god Do I got this stuff and this is what I have to ask Marie about

I see some of its goulash some of its beans Sweet potato in there? That's why I don't know. Oh, this is going to be stellar. You know, when you're doing this yourself, you just open it and eat it. Right. We don't worry about the calorie count. What if you had to ration it in reality? Well, in reality, I wouldn't eat it all. I'd say, okay, this is your half. But I know that this is a dozen eggs.

So a dozen eggs is 980, no 960. Dave's got a handful of freeze dried eggs in his hand in a vac sealed bag. That's what he's talking about. A dozen eggs is how many calories? 960. 960. So this is about a thousand. You can't throw it on 12 eggs in a day and call it you ate that day. No, that would be rough. It'd be rough.

But we want to be smart about this. Cut it, use half. Yeah. And then. It would be fine to sit open for a half a day or two. Because what I'm thinking is, and I'll get Maria to do a rough calorie count on these, one of these every day that you eat, because that's half of your calories. Yeah. And then I don't know how much of this. I feel like I would do a half for breakfast, luscious yeah I feel like I would do a half for breakfast then I might do a quarter and a half of this for lunch a quarter egg and then a half of that for lunch and then the same thing for dinner if I was doing your stuff so we're uncovering basic problem right now yeah is if you're got a vacuum sealer and you're you're making stuff off your homestead right how to plan for the eventuality like what you got right there yeah no disrespect but

that that's not built for rationing right that's built for maybe we always got enough well no it's it's it's built for a family yeah you know this this is Reckless for the family for servings. Yeah, you know this definitely This yeah, yeah And by the way the other products were reviewing mountain house and Ben's Ready hour there. They're built the same way. It's a good point, but the XMRE isn't the form factor Yeah, it's it's pack up go you have it and you you have a self-contained But the XMRE isn't the form factor in the military. It's pack up go, you have it, and you have a self-contained parts and pieces that you don't need to ready.

Everything else, mountain house, ready hour, and the homemade. You gotta have water, you gotta have an oven. And it could be four servings, And how do you do four servings? Whereas that is a serving. Yeah, the mountain house is tough because you have to, the ready hour, you can add as much as you want to water. You know what I mean?

And to dry for. Whereas this stuff, you add the water directly to the pouch. So then you either gotta take, eat half and put the other half in a pan and heat it up later. But the mount house is half the size of the Ready Hour. So it's a little easier. It is interesting though. So we're trying to do as close as we can

to four weeks of four separate product reviews. And here's the challenge we got with Ratchet and Ruin right off the top. Depending on the product, depending on how you made it, depending on how you packaged it, depending on the inputs, you got a very different experience for ration. And we're going to live it in May. Don't lose too many variables. Well, I'll say that goulash, the stew over there, you can eat it straight out of the

bag, you don't have to cook it. You can. Really, the eggs, if you had to, I bet you could even though they're raw i mean but uh not the most tastiest but i don't know if you could eat the mountain house raw like that it'd be a little nastier it's like powdery so maybe that's an advantage in the home instead from the from the rationing standpoint though the good thing is if you screw it up royally you're just gonna wind up screwing yourself later. True. As long as you can set aside like this is the week you know like if this is the week and you got X amount of packages if you screw up the rationing at the end of the week your four-day fast might turn into a four and

a half slash five. Yeah. You know what I mean? Hey I mean this is what they learned the hard way at Jamestown exactly This is what our ancestors have done for that's thousands and thousands of years paying attention to what you actually can bring out of the fields At harvest and thinking about how we're gonna make it the letter I gotta show you guys the May Apple before we leave. I mean remind me I didn't realize there they grew here So if they grow here and they grow where that they grow where you're at you can eat them All right, and they're literally they they go to fruit in May and they're really easy to identify because they're huge Umbrella like plant that grows on the ground nice. They suck

It's one of those things you can't get wrong, You know what I mean? It grows like a little green Fruit like this that you peel One flower underneath of an umbrella that turns into a right and you probably walk by your whole life exactly That's the thing. Yeah, that's I'm not gonna say a main objective but a secondary objectives You know get back to fishing it's been a while So I want to improve on that and I'll have a real good motivation to catch some fish because I'm gonna be dying for fresh protein but also whether it's the

mushrooms or other type of foraging trying to get out there. The mushroom book came in at the right time. The mushroom book couldn't have came in at a better time. But I'm expecting zero calories honestly. Mushroom is part of what inspired Rationer Ruin. Oh that's great. Yeah yeah I was looking like we're gonna do another Azure Island. Yeah. How can it be different? Oh that's a great idea. And how can we involve skill sets that they're talking about on Prepper Broadcasting Network that I personally have never tried for. Okay then so if they if they need to uh oh nice meatballs so if the audience wants to play along that's

pretty much the rule base. Yeah I think at least at the basics it is that you only eat on Monday Wednesday and, and Friday. So no eating Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, or Sunday. But if you gather, hunt, fish, legally and lawfully, any of those days, you can eat. So most weekends, I'm going to be working for that, and maybe even on a Tuesday, Thursday. And I'm hoping to find a good fishing spot out of all this, at least.

So that's what you're doing if you're sticking with the main program. But I know there's other listeners, they're going to put their own twists, their own turns on this. And I would encourage it. We had a listener on Picture Powerhouse last week said he's going to institute no grocery stores. Firewolf Forge, I believe. Oh, Firewolf, yeah, I remember you guys talking. Yeah, no grocery fire for you that's good to you learn yeah I would say if that if you're listening and you and you think that this is crazy there's no way you can do a lot

at least try a week I think what you learn would learn in one week would be exponential for your base level preparedness. You would go oh my god I am screwed or I'm in an alright place. You know what I mean? I think even one week would teach people you know where they're at. I'm learning things just getting ready for this or like what I'm worried about is bringing it to another level so actually living through it will give me some help. I've already made a couple adjustments to my actual preps based off this I've been eyeballing the ground in the woods very yeah, right

Yeah about fishing fishing I know I got pretty yeah, you're the pro that Yeah, I'll definitely come with you guys tell me when What about turkey hunt people on the fence on that we catch some food I like it what about turkey hunting people on the fence on that we could try it I mean it's I've done it and I've done it unsuccessfully many times and I've walked up on turkeys and seen them disappear before my very eye so I know they're hard to kill that'd be frustrating when you're starving and you worse than when those ducks got away when we went. But that one time. That being said, I'm pretty sure, what is it?

May? See, I don't know. You got to the 17th. Yeah, but I'm thinking other seasons also. And you know what? East of the Blue Ridge is different also. But we're not going that far. Yeah, we're not going west of the Blue Ridge. But things like squirrel and rabbits have multiple seasons. Squirrels are not in season for us.

No. I didn't think they are for us either. Rabbits maybe. I don't know. We'll have to look. That's always my thing. I feel like if I go out to hunt deer, I go out to hunt turkey, and the rabbits or the squirrels are there, at least you can take a shot at something like that. Yeah, that's called October chase. Yeah I know I know. No there is definitely a February squirrel

seed that comes up in February I know because I always threaten to go and I never do because I'm like I'm not freezing to death for a squirrel. Sounds so great till it's actually the middle of February. So yeah I think fishing is going to be a big part of it fishing is gonna be good if you guys can get a good spot for sure Like I know I live five minutes from the James River and it's full of catfish and I don't want to be catfish for sure You know what? I mean? It's just a guarantee the catfish are plentiful in a way in the James River that I Have to bring tackle not to catch like tackle at home because it will catch catfish like the gold gold minn it will catch catfish like the

gold minnows just catch catfish like when I'm trying to catch smallmouth so I don't even use them right so that'll be a part of it for sure and you know I guess as far as you can I think you could do well for nuisance trapping maybe if you wanted to get into that probably allowed a nuisance trap I bet well I think there's a continuous I think Richmond has a continuous trapping season all and it's because it's a city you're talking about raccoons and possums yeah raccoons possums yeah squirrels that kind of stuff well I guess you can't get away with squirrels I'm wondering whether I can do this without getting into absolute pioneer mode until you show up with the with the Davy Crockett hat on I think I can

discipline myself my experience might be more like on a battleship that's running out of tune than Davy Crockett I I got you. We'll see. But I do want to fish on weekends and I will do the turkey hunt if you guys want. Okay. Dave, you want to turkey hunt with us? Sure. We just saw a turkey yesterday. I think that CF Phelps place right down the street I've read about being pretty good for turkey. I think CF Phelps is off of 17. I don't know how far that is from you guys, but I think it's called PH, no CF Phelps, I'm pretty sure. Okay, all of this is then within range for the national ruler.

Well, there you go. Okay, Maria has divided it in half. 100 mile radius. We've been divided and conquered. Yep. Oh, thank you. She knows what's what. I know you didn't let me to do, you know, to make my calories. You just say, you know, tria riche, I put tria riche.

I know what's inside, but I didn't calculate to do the calories. Yeah, we made these before this all happened, and this is what we have. Yeah. But it's going gonna be close. We'll make do. Guestimate, it'll be the last week that we do it anyway, so if we have a few hundred extra calories, it'll be okay.

So we are all eating the same product in the same week and talking about it. Yeah, I think that's the point. Yes, because they will eat a little bit additional from their homestead, but not like an extra 8,000 calories worth, hopefully. And not on the days that we're fasting. Right, you don't have a goat there,

you're gonna get a bunch of cheese for them or something, right? That would not be fair. So we're all fat. Well, I mean, it's already gonna not be fair because it's just some egg. That's alright. It's not really a competition. You know it is. It's not. So we want to have somewhat equal playing ground. One thing I think we all need to measure or talk about, especially on DACs is like our weight. So what's your weight to start then each week what's your weight? I'm actually giving some consideration to spend the money and it doesn't cost that much and do the blood testing. Yeah my neighbor keeps writing it. I might head into Quest and see how my measures change. Yeah I think I was thinking about it.

I have a quest close by. I was thinking about it. When you go to the blood test, what do you do? What do you ask them to take? They do the full men's battery. Yeah that's what it's called. Full men's battery. You give them the blood, you give them the urine, it takes 15 minutes in and out the door and it shows up online and it comes with a consultation with an actual MD, that call is like, they give you about 10 minutes. But they do read it to you. It's a one-way conversation. They read you what...

You're in an MD right here. Yeah. And the one-way conversations I imagine. Yeah. But you can ask questions at the end. And I think I might want to actually see the numbers on how my body performs under this kind of regime. Yeah, I'm scared to see the sodium levels at the end and the... Vitamin D. Oh my goodness.

Well, vitamin D should be good. You get out and get a lot of suns. You ain't getting it from any food. The quality, the nutritional quality, at least in the ready hour, not very high. Not much protein, lots of carbs and fillers and preservatives, but I mean it's calories. Yeah, I think that makes sense. I am on a Yeah, I think that makes sense. I am on a I'm on a like a creatine kick right now that I'm doing through prep or fit and health So I've definitely will be taking that because that that's like part of a series

I'm doing over there just to see how it works over, you know X amount of months or whatever So I'll definitely be doing that. Some of that's a part of my cash. My pre prep are supplements. I got a year worth of supplements. Yeah, that's the way to go. Yeah, I've got vitamin C, fish oils, that kind of stuff. But none of that's going to be like, oh my god, I'm so full now. I took my creatine gummies and my fish oils. What I'm doing for coffee is I'm doing only instant coffee. Only instant, okay.

Because I'm pretending that I can't have a coffee maker that works. I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll do only bunker beans. How about that? There you go. Only coffee that I roast myself and grind. That'll be fun. Hang on. You're adding like other things that are part of the simulation. Right. To this. Without calories. Not calorie additions. Well, I don't put anything in coffee. Me neither. Black only. in terms of cooking and all that we're not gonna simulate anything like no grids down, right? But now I'm using my stove to boil water no, I'm making a fire every day three times a day Or if that's the deal I'm gonna go buy some jet boils like crazy now just eat once a day that's what I would do in a real bad situation well that's a good point yeah cook once a day cook once a day yeah so I probably would eat once a day one big ass meal

right there I might do it as part of my strategy but I'm not sure yet I know a lot of people would do the one time and eat one meal a day I do that like now yeah but this could be totally different see I have trouble with that maybe um grab a box and read to the audience like what are the products? We're going to have to have Yeah, let's look at we'll start with the mountain house because they're kind of the creme de la creme That was an expensive box I'm gonna tell you right now I bet it was Five meals five meals for 99 bucks dang Five meals for 99 bucks. Dang! Five meals?

What's it say on it? It's not five meals, it's five days. Yeah five days. Five days of how many people? Well it's two, I think it's two servings per bag. Four pouches. So four, seven, ten, thirteen, fifteen total pouches. Now you love to send pictures from Costco, so I know you shop there too. That's from them. Oh, I never saw it. No, you gotta buy it online. Oh, okay. Look, mountain houses are irreplaceable in certain situations, I think.

Yeah. Hunting, fishing, camping, there's where it's at. So we got, for the mountain house, we got the beef lasagna. I bet you the beef lasagna. I bet you the beef lasagna is gonna be pretty good. Even the even the macaroni is made with semolina flour which is kind of cool. That's surprising right off the top. Beef rosemary extract salt. It'll have some flavor. And then we got chicken and dumplings, buttermilk biscuits, healthy dose of palm oil. Yeah, yeah.

Then we got the beef stroganoff. I think these beef ones will probably be the highlight. For breakfast, we got the granola with milk and blueberries. I bet it won't be as good as that granola we had after Azure High. Oh, that was so good. I remember it still. And scrambled eggs. So we're gonna be egging. Oh, I think the scrambled eggs might have, it looks like it has some meat in it. Pork sausage. Oh scrambled eggs with uncured bacon. Oh, we're gonna get a little bacon. All right. That's gonna be a treat. Something smoked. That's like premium camping food right there. Oh, it is dude. I I mean they're delicious. I usually get the

biscuit. What is it? Biscuits and gravy? He's awesome in the morning. Yeah that's good stuff. Let's take a look at these babies. My son's been dying to eat one of these so he's gonna steal one for sure. He's been talking to me. I want to eat her MRE We're not open to no MREs, dude. You're a night. I don't know what I did with my damn life. Let's be in my car. I Hope it's not up in the woods 12 in there. No Dave's building an entire cache of their weapons and knives So this is well, oh is it? Okay. See-through. Yeah I know. Hatch. I like them. So these are essentially civilian versions of military. Yeah. I think this company actually sells to the single magazine pouch.

It's perfect for the... yeah, look at that. Oh, that's a great idea. He's got the single magazine pouch with the buckle, plastic buckle, but instead of the magazine inside, it's the multi-tool type. Because they always come with the crappiest sheets. And the snap break Yeah, put them in the cargo pocket This right here

You can operate All right So the I don't think this gives us the full breakdown of the MRE unless everything outside of the main entree stays the same Is that right? Not a real military MRE no snack and stuff the crackers always there yeah yeah so this is elbow macaroni and tomato sauce we've got vegetarian taco pasta yeah I'm sure what that is that'll be in chicken chunks white cooked

that'll be in chicken chunks white cooked that's a little more austere than an ass already. chicken chunks white cooked. that's gonna be the episode name. hash brown potatoes with bacon, peppers and onions sound damn good. that's what I saw. I was like, that sound good though actually cash brown potatoes bacon peppers onion chicken chicken any other color any with beef sauce did you know that even making when you said it hurts when I walk oh yeah it hurt it hurts to walk yeah yeah you said that's a name of a show and the very next show he did he named he said that's a sermon yeah I'm gonna do that on reliance yeah that that was real that was some bullshit so without without going into too many army war stories yeah I did want to ask Dave as a veteran in the United States Army who was there when MREs first rolled out. I joined the Army after they were there, but

there were some of the first generation MREs still around, which were rough. Those were rough to you. I just want to ask you you in your units and your part of the army How is it viewed to get a case of this a box like this? And for one member of the unit to go picking through their own like try and choice pick the best one You did not do that. Okay In the sea rations, you turned it upside down You opened it upside down because you didn't see the name okay it was on the top and you just picked and that's

the way it was then you traded or not or not you got stuck with that tuna you got stuck with that that was Charlie the sorry tuna. Yeah. Look, if what you're getting at is somebody's got to take the chicken chunks white, I'll take the chicken chunks. Why? I don't mind. I think that vegetarian white cook lasagna. Not popular now. That seems to be like an oxymoron.

What is it? Vegetarian lasagna. Oh yeah. That's a wrong way. It doesn't just seem right. Vegans. Doing the opposite and just getting over to the crater MREs and grabbing anything you want. In my unit it was called rat effing and you are a rat effer and it was a real problem if you ever got God doing that. Yeah. Yeah. Because there were certain meals that were just so bad that if you let that effing go on, some poor soul who's last to the box is gonna be getting the worst of the worst. Yeah, now when the MREs came out, they were in a similar box, but we'd open them up and just toss them. You wouldn't look at the name, you just toss them.

Grab whatever you get is what you get. Just to settle the dispute. Right, exactly. It's interesting that you remember that because I would- Always a big thing with MREs. Yeah. And those first ones, like he said, they were wow. You were coming out of Dutch country Pennsylvania,

weren't you? You were eating good. Yeah, but the first MREs were like an experiment. You must have tasted that MRE and said, what the hell have I gotten myself into? Well, you went from sea rations, okay, and that's another thing. You'd open up a case of sea rations. Oh, you started with the sea rations, then went into the... Yeah, canned food.

Oh, okay. Vietnam-era canned food. Yep. Right. You'd have X number of can openers in every box and you always had your can opener, you know, in case you didn't get one of the can openers because there was only like six of them you'd have to share anyways. But I remember, where's the can opener? Oh, you don't need a can, you just open it. Oh, God. The darn bag was practically bulletproof. I mean, I said, what's this made of?

Cavalier. Can I put this on? All right. So then you need a knife to open that. And if you weren't careful, you'd slice your meal. Then you're out your meal. Mmm. Then you're out some calories. So product number two.

The SMRE. Which I suggest we wait until the end because it does kind of have the most desperateness or maybe the last of the three prepared foods. I'm kind of looking forward to Dave's food for week four. Yeah. I agree. But you know, the form factor of this, highly, highly convenient. Those come with heaters in them. Oh, do they have the heater? You don't need to go to your kitchen for that. It's literally ready to eat.

It'll be a different experience in my house. If you don't mind me asking, how much were they? Because this was $99 I'm like yeah 129 a case 129 129 a case 12 meals for a hundred twenty nine ten bucks a meal yes ish how many calories per meal about yes Did you guess that? Nearly 3,000 to a pouch. Oh wow, so that's a good deal. 10 bucks for 3,000 calories ready to eat all day. I think it only does the entree calories.

Right, that's what I figured. No, there's more to it than that. Yeah, no, I know that. 3,000, that's a lot. We'll be eating two of those a day each. Yeah, we'll be eating two of those a day each. Yeah, we were eating... On the days when we went out with the Rangers in OCS, we were eating everything. Even I would take the chocolate powder and put the coffee in the chocolate powder and

mix it up. We were eating everything. I mean, every calorie. Every, yeah. We put the sugar in there. Every calorie. I believe it. All right, that's it. All right, you get a ranger school story. I saw three cats, one of them dropped up, M&M in the dark, and had

his flashlight out, and everybody else was like, what are you doing with your flashlight out? He said, I'm looking for my M&M, I just dropped it. Did they jump on it? And he said if you help me find it I'll split it with you. Three of us found it. We with a Leatherman we chopped that into three pie piece thirds and had a bit of M&M. That's how hungry you get there. But that again is little three to five day things where you're doing constant infantry patrolling with heavy packs and the calorie expenditure is enormous. So you're under food deprivation but doesn't last long. What we're doing for ration and ruin, none of us are going to be doing physical exertion at that level, but it's a lot longer period of time with a lot less calories than we're used to.

Well the downtime is going to be the hardest time. Yeah. You know what I mean? The downtime. Yeah, that's going to be the toughest I think. I don't think I have that problem here. You don't have any downtime. Spending weekends at the Jones.

When I'm fasting that's the hardest part of fasting I feel like is boredom or lack of like a reward. Like I worked 10 hours today and I don't get to eat dinner now I gotta just think about it all day that's such ass. Why does it hard fast when it goes so slow? Exactly it goes so slow. And then first couple days ain't too bad. I think yeah it's gonna be interesting how I do the tactic but I'm gonna I think I'm only one meal a day on the days I eat more than likely 6,000 calories no two thousand like so even three days. I'm sorry to go back without getting too deep He said one of those has how many calories? I got you grab the case. Okay Her so you only eat you get to get one for the whole week you get to

You only eat, you get one for the whole week. You get two. Is that not the same? That's a whole different level. Not pretty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I just wanna make sure we did the math, right? Yeah, how to read code. Maybe not in Thrall and Radia,

but we gotta get the math. Made in the U.S.A. No tariffs on these XMREs. Made where? In the U.S.A. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We gotta go do the math, I think. Ooh, okay. Uh we

the four week food supply up the 25 year shelf life. What do we got? Where you store this thing? It looks like it gets a lot of sun. It, um, I think it got sun from the window, maybe. So we'll see if it's actually any good. So much for the cool dry place through the window at my house, maybe, or actually, I think that might be water. Damage. I don't know. So it looks like we got apple. Well here's the thing, not everything in there is contained.

I've made, you know, I pulled some things out. Yeah. So we got apple granola, we got white rice. I don't mind getting stuck with white rice and chicken chunks white cooked. I'll do the model diet if we have to do it. And then it looks like some kind of vegetarian macaroni

So that's what's in there, but I didn't include everything in there because that's that's a 14-day bucket So should I open it? Well, let's do that Faith cheese is a cheese made from tofu Probably Wow. Yeah yeah that's gotta be really bad cheese for extra bad for extra extra extra GMO all right so there's no one in here there's essentially two people's stuff here's your chocolate pudding powder so this came in a big bag and I chopped it into three bags so here's one person's okay

That's about 400 500 calories worth chocolate pudding So nothing else is chopped up like that, but I had to do it cuz I came in like a half pound bag Okay, I got you. Are you supposed to add your own milk to that water? Water pudding. Yeah pudding, baby You've not missed a whisk for seven minutes enjoy To be pretty damn chunky But hey you can use it however you want you can put it in your coffee make a little hot chocolate over the day

I might try that myself. I'm gonna thin it out and drink it might be better might be Cheese, it's cheesy broccoli rice soup. Yeah. That's awesome actually. Oh this is my favorite, this is my favorite survival food of all because it's so deceiving. Because you see, you see creamy chicken rice and you think, oh this is gonna be like rice and gravy and chicken bits. But it's actually creamy chicken flavored rice exactly so it's just rice flavored like chicken broth yep yeah that's that's a sneaky one oh nice there's a fire starter right there

what'd you say 500 500 calories you want about if you want to put that whole all that it's about two cups of water add about two to two and a half cups of water if you wanted to do it all at once. Yes, that in a shaker right. That makes it like pudding though like real thick. Yeah, I wouldn't do it like what you were talking about at Ranger school or or at OCS where you make some coffee instant coffee with a tablespoon of that. Oh wait we got the maple grove oats that looks good. That's oh I forgot actually that maple oats has so much it's either where we could split it or you know someone could have it. Eight servings at 230. That's another one of those issues that future damn is bringing up that wait. It's hard to break up eight servings of oatmeal Yeah servings at 230 calories per serving

Form factor Well, is it ready art I think it is We want to stay on bread travelers stew, Okay, so that's what we saw that weird one. Yeah, that's the one with the macaroni, Tony. Traveler stew, pasta, lentil, onion, celery, and a rich chicken flavored broth. Okay. Pancakes? You kidding? That's not the problem it's a huge pouch that's that might be another so this is servings at once honestly both the oatmeal and the pancakes don't have to be included and you'd still get 6,000 calories out of these other packets so why don't we just say screw the oatmeal and the pancakes

there and let's could there's not much variety though, but pretty minimal varieties the last All right, I Mean if that makes it easier, it doesn't make it easy cutting it up and putting it into Ziploc bags and then doing the calculations. Yeah, I want to give each product a fair review I guess that eating only their pancakes all week Well, we would split this into two or three pieces just paying the ass but it would be like handed out yeah no these are supply oh foods yeah food August and August and farms we almost did that because I have a few of those but I buy the big like the staples from August and they're good I get some bigger ones like that, but I don't know if they're individually any better. These are smaller.

I think we're good. Okay. I think if you remove those but keep these still about 6,000 calories. So we can count the pudding as breakfast. Yeah. So, chocolate 2000 calories by itself. 400 calories per service right there. That's a third of your week just in this. This is just like Mountain House. It's all at once. No, these are 20 minutes I think.

You gotta boil them? Yeah, see reduce heat. It's like cutting rice, you gotta cook it a little. Reduce heat to medium, cook it for 20 minutes. So five cups of water to this whole pack and then cook 20 minutes. Let's stand for two to three. This is hard, this is hard right here.

Yeah. We can sit here and split these up, but now you gotta give me those directions. I won't know what to do. I took pictures of them. I don't need them, I remember them. I did a big article where I reviewed all. Oh, you don't have to cut these up but now you got to give me those directions i won't know what to do i took pictures i don't need them i remember them i did a big article where i reviewed all oh you don't have to cut these up you get this whole you get this goes home i remember all of them are 20 minutes those are 20 minutes i'm sure yeah we ate it all this is the chip eat it when they eat it for the price and for the flavor ready hour is it if you're gonna buy pre I heard you say that yeah

it really is it I mean my opinion I never tried it before actually that's wrong there were some banana like a big pack of banana uh slices or whatever yeah I ate those up last weekend they were decent I think ready wise which is to me like the the fanciest of the survival meals. I think they have the best tasting pre-made stuff, but they're expensive. They're way more expensive than Ready Hour. Ready Hour's affordable and has, I think, the best. Yeah, I think I got Ready Wise from Costco.

Yeah, I see them there. They had their things and it was on final clearance, and I'm on final clearance. Red wise, for survival food, it's about the tastiest that I have. Coming off of like a valley food storage, that stuff's rough. Probably not something I should say on the air. It's my opinion, you know. It is what it is. Wasn't he a sponsor way back when G-Man had...

You might want to not pre-ordain the outcome of the reviews. Good point. True. This needs to be censored. But everybody has a problem. Well, I don't have a ton of experience eating MREs, to be honest, so that'll be all new. That's the only one I got experience at. And Mountain House I already love ready at this one time we competition

will be stiff for sure we got Lerps now this is way back when sea rations were around and Lerps were these they were the very first freeze-dried oh they were freeze-dried they were freeze-dried how did you guys deal with that? You got to boil water in the field? Yeah. And we only got them for a, you know, for a pair. You're getting Lerps, probably because they were left over from Vietnam. And we're like, what the hell's a Lerp? Long-range patrol meal. It sounds delicious. They make it sound like that on purpose. It was huge. It sounds like it was a big pouch. And you heated your water in your canteen cup and then you poured it in the pouch and stirred it around until it became edible. Right. That's kind of what I expect this to be. Just kind of stirring. I'm just gonna have to stir it. Updating myself with the army stories, but I only saw a T-Rat once in Germany.

And it was a... Is it a tin ration? It's a big tray for group meals. Yeah, a Swanson's meal. Okay. Yeah, it wasn't bad. No? It wasn't bad, I wouldn't want to eat it for long.

T-Rations, I don't know if, they came out and went away. Cause MREs arrived It was a short-lived thing. Yeah, and it was like How many guys do you have? Ten guys. Okay. Well this feeds 20 here. That's exactly what we're doing right now. Yeah They could not break down that tin. Yeah. It was a big microwave oven. The kitchen trailer wasn't a kitchen.

It was just a thing that boiled water. And you would run these trays through it and it would come out the other end. So they were steamed? No, boiling water. So the whole thing went through boiling water. Yep. And it heated up and then you cut that and like Salisbury steak. Yeah. Just like Swanson. Oh I was raised on that stuff. Yeah. Yeah definitely. But it was

very short-lived. I had a T-Rat pudding. Ooh yeah. Wow. Pudding for 12. Probably wasn't too far off from this. Seriously. There was no way to break it down. Yeah. And some people got shafted, some people got extra. Had to fight for your... The idea was, okay you had a mess crew. Okay. You know? Yeah. Oh we can take these guys out if we give them tea rations because anybody can boil water. And it was like a one size fit all type thing and it did not work. Oh man. Well that probably had a lot of leftovers in the 90s when I was getting them. That probably had a lot to do with why it went away too. And rodent problems.

Oh no. You know because what do you do? You got extras. I mean bury that. Yeah, that's about it, right? Remember the shelf stable bread? Oh yeah. That would come with the MRE. Yep. And it was vacuum sealed, about the size of your hand, four inches by three inches by three-quarter inch, but it was vacuum sealed so actually when you open it up is and and that was all for you got huge it made eating the entrees of MREs you know way better I bet now I'm getting bread you're dipping you didn't always get it

You're dipping bread, ripping chunks off, living large, the next night you got no bread, you feel like shit. We want to lay down some dates to actually do things in addition to starving ourselves on the week. That's a good idea. Well, you know what? We're going to be kind of flexible. We're going to shoot, right? We're going to shoot.

What's the update on shooting? We don't have an update on shooting. Well, the range goes to 300 meters. I have no idea what to do at a range like that just so everybody knows. Yeah. They can rent it. They can rent it. They got a thousand yard. Well, yeah, I know but you have to go to a class to be able to shoot

on the and it's only open on Wednesday. I think that yeah that range. Yeah, it's in the 600 yards. There was 600. Yeah. The 600 are also the same or we had to have a class and or only on the weekdays or something. But I would be down to go there on a Friday, you know, Friday or Saturday or Sunday to go shoot on three, 400 meter, but he wants to go to a thousand. I don't know if that's viable. You get to get a membership.

You gotta, yeah, you gotta do the membership or get the class or something. Or pay a guy off. Pay a guy off. Well, can't prepper broadcast the network, just rent the range? pay a guy off. Well can't broadcast the network just rent the range? I mean what yeah I guess what does it cost to rent the range? But they still ain't gonna let us shoot. Yeah they ain't gonna let us shoot without a gun. You can shoot up to 300 meters. What's the waiver for that cost? You gotta go to the class. I don't know. Yeah, I don't think they're gonna let you just shoot They're not gonna let you shoot a thousand meters Just because you show up and be like I think I could do it. Hey, you know, I mean Yeah, 300 meters and we're shooting that steel targets. I mean you'll know if you hit or not

I'd be all for that. He said done so much of that I mean, you'll know if you hit to like June or July, I forgot which one. So they probably feel should do it quick. No, definitely. If if you're going to be trained to shoot. Yeah. You know that distance and you only have X. And you know, it's there's a ratio. They probably feel like, right, insanely quick.

So we're looking at that fish hunt and forage in pairs and three at a time, whatever you feel like heading our way. I'd go downstate. I'd go downstate if you had someplace you wanted to go for one of the weekends. One, like four consecutive Saturdays do something productive for rash or ruin. At least to take my mind off of it. That's a good call. Keep us moving. Yeah. Well we could go turkey hunting. Turkey hunting would be good. We could do that right out back here. In the field? Yep. Right. Well I don't know if the old man, the old man probably won't let us, but we can do it out the back

of my house. I'll put the blind out so we can shoot that way. Yeah. Send him up into the vineyard. Go set it up. I'll be there. Then we go set up the blind and I'll get through the calls too. There's a fishing spot near here and then you got a guy that might go fishing with

one of those days but I'd like to go down we can go down to James River that would be fun that'd be a weekend and then hunting the weekend and then another fish weekend. I don't know how but my only concern if you guys come all the way down my way is you got to travel catfish two hours back I mean on ice would be a big deal. No no no you're cooking them with us on the back. I mean on ice would be a big deal. No, no, no. You're cooking them with us on the back. Oh, but I mean we could do that too. But that ain't going to help you much the Monday after. True. It is a feeding day. Saturday and Sunday are. You know what I'm saying. Storing any or getting given any extra. Right, yeah. I hadn't really thought about that. I thought about just eat what we get. Eat as much as you can. Pack a cooler with ice. Well, that's

true. I mean that's true. I mean, that's true. Yeah. You're bringing cooler ice. We could definitely. I got a great spot for it. I mean, the spot by where I live is really great for that. We'll be desperate by week two, week three. I want all the cabbage I can eat. There's a couple of islands there that we can hang out on. People make fires there all the time, so it wouldn't be anything out of the ordinary. If the warden lets me go. Yeah, that'll be a hike for Dave Jones. I mean I'd go. There's a lake around here to go fish maybe or we could definitely hunt around here. Shenandoah River is right there. Yeah I don't know other than

Smallmouth what they have. I have my disability. I have a permanent fishing license. permanent permanent tags to her yep I'm broken yeah so I'd say I'd say fishing maybe the closer to the end of the month, the better for the James River. It's closer. We get to June, the lower it'll be, the easier it'll be to traverse. We will be like walking in water. That's, that's kind of how we roll my big boots. I don't want to even use it. So I'll use like, uh, just an old pair of sneakers and bait. Okay.

I can do that too. I pick up some water. Duck hunting is a good call, man. I would love to. I've never gone duck hunting, but duck is one of my favorite foods in the world. That's an autumn event. Yeah, that's true. But I'll tell you, the hunting duck, when they're out, when you found them, is a blast.

I bet it is. I mean, I grew up doing it with the tent. Yeah, exactly. And the dog laughing at me. I bet it is. I mean I grew up doing it with the tent. Exactly. The dog laughing at me. Yeah. So the So the So the fishing trip I'd say keep that either

the second or last or the last. In the hunting we got to do either the first or second weekend because it ends on the 17th. Okay. No matter where you are it doesn't go beyond the 17th. Okay. There's yeah no matter where you are it doesn't go beyond the 17th. Well if we're doing it on private land that changes a lot. Yeah. Because Dave knows the area. I mean. Now I don't know you are gonna have to get here early and be patient. Yeah we'll have to be. Call them and call them and call them.

I'll I don't know either. I don't know. I got only a few lines dog. Canine is a thing Canine is Setting people off the table I'll never go there but everything else alive in this planet. Uh-huh So for me matter of dates okay so for me uh i feel like the communist i think dog and horse are probably out on the 14 day horizon many many insects are earlier than yeah that cat dog horse oh there's a point in time where you're gonna have to eat them i know i know a horse would be good guy a guy at the table he said no i can't eat too much like I was. You're not hungry enough? Pass it over here pal. I'm not a big fan of lizards and reptiles either I don't really like eating

them I think they're pretty gross. So they're day one for you? Oh I mean if I had to eat them I'll eat them. I'm talking about preference. Like without eating anything else are they day 10 food? Oh no way if I find it it could be day one. Okay. You know if we're like at that point. I'm at this place called. But eating a dog would be tough. I'd have to be real hungry. It's a huge restaurant in Kenya in the capital Nairobi. Yeah Nairobi. And there was this spit, huge spit in the center of the restaurant and all these different meats are on there and there's a white guy on it And you just said the guy would bring it around and he say this is zebra this is alligator Like phogatous. Yeah, I wrote is gazelle. Probably awesome gazelles, probably.

Crocodile. What's the Brazilian? Churrascaria. Yeah, sounds like that. Yeah, they're fun. We'll be dreaming about them. You'll be having some dreams about a Fogo de Chow about that third week.

You ever see Bear Grylls when he ate zebra? Uh-uh. He ate raw right off the calorie floor. I remember that. Went out there like, this is extremely dangerous. How did he get it? How did he get it? He was just dead out there. He walked by it and started chopping.

Oh, he ate a dead one. Yikes. Yikes. Yeah. Yeah, I would say that would be extremely dangerous. It was about, it was close to the same episode where he drank his own piss. Oh, I saw that one. I'm like, what? No, he did not hold back.

Hey! He would survive that way. I'm like, yeah, that helped. Oh, he drank his pee and threw up. He stored it in the skin of a snake. Sure. And then... ...the balance is lower.

Yeah, the Sahara. Oh my gosh. Yeah, but I watched those guys before I was a prepper and now that after everything I know now I'm like, yeah, I would. They'd have to pay me really well. I saw one where he's in Brazil, the Amazon rainforest, and he says he's going to climb this 150-foot tree just to look around. I'm like, dude, you fall down from there?

You don't have to worry about anything if you fall down. It's over. You're done. I'm like, I would never do that in a million years. You might have nothing else to do though. Go downhill. Water goes downhill. Follow the water to the next. Yeah. Do you understand? Oh yeah. You don't have to know where you are. Yeah, that's true. I feel like rainforest wouldn't be all that bad. There's got to be a ton of like. Grubs. Yeah. Plants, shit. I'd recognize some. Panther doesn't get your ass.

Lots of reptiles. Yeah, yeah. It might be food. Exactly. More of that are like snakes and spiders. Are you in need for white meat? Yeah. Fresh. Look, he looks a little porky. Yeah. Yeah. White stir and diet. Bankster chunks, white cooked. Okay. Media player. Well, I think we got it, huh? Yeah, what else? We got the food relatively divvied out. We got the rules divvied out.

If anybody wants to play along, I'd highly recommend it. Even if you only do it for a week, I think it would be a game changer. You'll learn a lot. Yeah, we'll get it. You'll definitely learn a lot. Anything else? Just from my experience in fasting, the kind of like emotional mental part is harder than the actual hunger and lack of energy. You get a little hungry and you definitely lose

some energy. But it's like way more mental. So I feel like if you power through it, it goes in waves. So like, I don't know, I'm hoping after week one, we'll kind of get used to just the malaise. We'll see. It's a long time though. That's, I think it's going to make it actually maybe the hardest Azur Highland exercise because it's a month. Yeah. I can do anything for 36 hours, 48 hours. It's definitely the hardest. 30 days, two days vines for that long. No, that's different, I guess. That was like hour 32, and after that we were done.

You know. It was rough though. Yeah, yeah. But if I had to do this at the same time, that'd be different. So this is, you know, do these all separately, then they all come together.

The fifth capstone in 2026, that's what we'll do. But anyway, it's gonna be a long slog marathon, not a sprint, but I don't know. I'm looking forward to it. I think everyone will learn a lot. This is the most realistic exercise. Like no matter what happens, if stuff hits the fan,

you're going to have food issues of one sort of or another. So even if you got like a year of this food, you still going to be trying this now. Do I save it for later? Yep. That's it. All right, folks.

Well, you'll clearly be updated from all or some of us at, at through most of the month of May, so buckle up and, uh, give it a shot. We'll talk to you guys soon.