The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Surviving America 019: What is Fishing

Episode Date: January 14, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Society in every state is a blessing. The government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil. The future has already arrived. The trout do not rise in the cemetery. So you better do your fishing while you're still able. Sparse gray hackle. Sparse gray hackle is the author of that quote. The trout do not rise in the cemetery.
Starting point is 00:00:38 so you better do your fishing while you are still able. Man, that's a big one. That is a big one, folks. I'm back. Sorry. It's a little finicky, this plug in here. Let me see what's going on. We're going to do a show today.
Starting point is 00:00:59 You're going to see me today for sure. But we're going to do a show about fishing. I had like a heavy topic set for you. And I was thinking, you know, let's do, I don't know, there's just been a lot of heavy stuff going on. And I was thinking about a number of things, not the least of which, you know, being what's happening at the southern border and so on. But what I decided to do instead was discuss, you know, what is made up a massive chunk of my life. And I don't know. It's just one of these.
Starting point is 00:01:36 it's like a life hack almost. What fishing has been to me throughout my days is a lot like a life hack. And I learned it from my father who was also using it as a life hack. And I want to go into it all. And the reason I titled the show What Is Fishing is Because it's one of these, it's one of the rare activities, particularly in the outdoors. that is so varied, right? It's like it's hard to think of another thing. I don't know if there is another thing that is as varied in terms of like an outdoor sport or an outdoor activity.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Do you know what I mean? Like you might not know what I mean, so I have to elaborate on it. But if you go rock climbing, you're climbing rocks. Now you could be bouldering, right? Or you could be climbing, you know, real high. and, you know, that kind of thing. Morning, Jay Fur. You go hunting.
Starting point is 00:02:40 You're in a blind. You're in a tree stand or maybe you're stalking. But when you say the word hunting, what's up, Kumori Farm? Welcome in. When you say hunting, you get a pretty clear vision. I think most people get a pretty clear vision, right? Hunting. Birdwatching, camping, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:03:00 These kind of things. Hiking, right? when I say fishing this took me a really long time to figure out that's why I want to open the show with it when I say fishing in the microphone I had no idea and I should have known but I had no idea sort of the array of things that pop into people's mind in other words
Starting point is 00:03:25 you're sitting on the bank in a chair with a cooler fishing right garden girl how's it going sitting on the bank in a folding chair with a cooler fishing that's fishing right you're on a boat in the middle of the ocean deep sea fishing you're on a sheet of ice that you used an auger to drill into and drop a little you know you got your little mini ice fishing rod i'd never go on ice fishing i really would like to do that um but anyway you're fishing right you're in a bass boat cruising around a lake or a river, you know, fishing. You're on a dock, fishing.
Starting point is 00:04:07 When you say fishing, there are just all kinds of things that conjure up in the mind. You could be in the highest peaks, maybe not the highest peaks, but you can be in the Appalachian Mountains in water up to your big toe and waiters fishing. It's one of those weird things that when you say the word, it conjures up a thing. It's always a beautiful thing, hopefully. Nine times out of ten, it's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful memory, right? Fishing out, fishing with dad, fishing with the family, fishing with the kids, whatever it is. I think for the times, we really crack the code on fishing.
Starting point is 00:04:54 And when I say we, I mean my father and I. And we cracked the code on it because we took fishing and turned it into just a thing that it just checked all the boxes of the stresses of life for us. You know, I've done nearly every kind of fishing. I've never really done deep sea fish. Oh, no, that's not true. Well, not like deep sea fish. I've never really done like deep sea fishing. But I've fished in boats in the saltwater and, you know, trolled in the saltwater and, you know, all kinds of stuff.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Peer fishing. Oh, whatever. When I say fishing, what is fishing to me? What is fishing to me? Like when I want to go fishing, what do I want to do? One of the most important things to me when fishing is movement. I want to be moving. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:05:51 Stationary fishing to me is rough. how I learned to fish was with a pocketbook on it's like a bag with a flap that goes over your they call them messenger bags now or whatever but back in the day my dad didn't even know where he used to get these things actually got one of them from a store chain called fashion bug right you remember the old fashion bug stores but there was a certain kind of canvas bag with compartments and a flap and a buckle, right?
Starting point is 00:06:23 And that was the fishing bag. This bag is essential to go fishing. There is no substitute the way that I go fishing. There is no substitute to the bag. You can do a sling bag on the back. It's not really as good as the little mini messenger bag, though, because of the access. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:06:44 It's here. It's in there. Shelter 9, World War III Prep FM. What is up? Man, yeah, green canvas bag. Did you use one too? That's very surprising. I actually had one just like it.
Starting point is 00:06:59 But I think it was made by the mud brand. You know what I mean? But anyway, thanks for joining us. It starts with that. And the reason it starts with that is because we would spend the day in water. You know what I mean? We would spend the day in the water. It wasn't on the.
Starting point is 00:07:21 banks. It wasn't on a boat. Oh, very cool. Very cool. Grew up fishing under river bridges and pooling cod. That's some good eating. You must been in a cold place. Where were you? Where were you ? What bridges were you under? Because that sounds like it could be chilly. Cod are only in the cold water, right? I don't know everything there is to know about a lot of saltwater species and their behavior. But anyway, for us, fishing started with that bag. It started with wading in water. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:07:58 And the weighting aspect of fishing allowed us to, well, it allowed us to stay mobile. And it allowed us also to, well, there you go, Nova Scotia, very cool. It allowed us to get into the wild places. You know, what it really allowed us to do is to drive 10, 15 minutes from my home in Marcosoak, Pennsylvania, which was, you know, people everywhere, people on top of people, right outside of Philadelphia. And disappear often to little creeks, like the Brandywine River, like the Chester Creek, like Ridley Creek, allow us to disappear into these waters because you couldn't go down them in a boat. you really couldn't even go down them in a in a kayak really um but we could walk them and we could disappear into these stretches of woods and have an adventure that didn't it almost doesn't make sense even to this day and just off the road just off the beaten path of civilization man is so
Starting point is 00:09:08 there's so much wildlife you'll see so many things my dad saw the first he saw like the return of the bald eagles like i see bald eagles way more now at the james river but he saw the first of the bald eagles returning and it was we were all looking at him like he was crazy you know but it was about waiting it was about stalking fish almost like hunting um it is this is still what fishing is about for me uh it's about ultra light tackle and one of the things that dad always said i'd ask him about hunting i wasn't necessarily interested in hunting, but the two worlds always overlap. And I would ask, I'd be like, why don't we hunt, too? And he always told me he's too expensive. And, you know, we were, we weren't poor or anything,
Starting point is 00:09:57 but we were tight, you know, it was tight. We didn't really want for much as kids. We, you know what I'm saying? But we, it was tight. So he always would say it's too expensive. And what I found over the years is that you can fish for nothing. I never stopped fishing for pennies. All of my years, it's one of the things like in a lot of aspects of my life, I have upgraded things. You know what I mean? I am pretty, maybe not, maybe not actually. I am pretty cheap in terms of most things.
Starting point is 00:10:46 But in fishing, it's a dirt cheap exercise. Still, to this day, the most expensive thing I probably ever bought outside of a fly fishing rod because you have to spend money on a fly fishing rod was the pole, the bait casting pole I bought my son when he wanted to get into bait casting and all that kind of stuff last year. And we tried it out. and I mean it may happen. I don't know. We use open face reels.
Starting point is 00:11:11 We always have. They're much easier to deal with. They're much easier to deal with tangles in my opinion, you know. That could be because I used them my whole life. But it just, it was a quick in and out of that world and back to what dad's doing. You know what I mean? Because I'm catching fish and he's tangling line up and that whole thing. And I mean, I didn't, I didn't say you should use what I use.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I said, figure it out. It's going to take time. You know what I mean for you to figure this out? This is new. It's going to take some time to figure it out. I don't know what it is. I never really used them. You know, I've never used them.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I used something similar when I used to go cat fishing with my father-in-law on the James River in a boat. But, you know, always open face. And that rod and that reel was expensive. It was super expensive. And it's the least amount of fun we've ever had with fishing gear. now I go to 99% of my
Starting point is 00:12:10 fishing rods maybe 80 now actually because I have started buying Cast King products I do like some of their fishing reels and rods but anyhow a duly portion right large portion
Starting point is 00:12:28 Walmart Walmart Walmart Matter of fact one of my favorite rods I ever had was a $20 fishing rod, yellow rod from bass pro shops. It was one of the best I ever owned. Really? One of the best. And my dad, he is a guy who spends a little money on fishing, right? He'll buy the St. Croix rods, fly fishing rods, expensive ultralight spinning rods. It stuff's nice. It's nice. I never spend money on fishing. I never spend, when I say that, I spend
Starting point is 00:12:59 money on fishing every year, but I never spend big money on fishing. Never. I mean, it's, it's It's if I had to put a dollar figure, you know, I buy a certain kind of outdoor license every year. That's the biggest investment I make every year because here in Virginia, you can wrap up your hunting tags, your hunting license, your fishing license, sort of all in one. So I do that every year. But outside of the licensing, it depends on who needs a rod and reel. I know I spend less than $200, $250 a year. to fish all year, baits, you know, all of it. Maybe you might be able to say when I go to the outer banks that I spend,
Starting point is 00:13:44 yeah, when I go to the outer banks, I spend maybe more because that's a different adventure and sometimes they've got to refill things, right? Shelter 9 World War III Prep FM says LOL, $8.00 Rappala Polarized Glasses. My dad was always on the polarize. I don't even use sunglasses when I go fish. I'm telling you, it's, it's just stuff to mess it up. You know, for me, what fishing is is pool up to the river anytime, by the way. Another thing that we created in our fishing escapades, I don't know that we created it,
Starting point is 00:14:24 but we perfected it to some degree, was it was the wading, fishing load out. You know what I mean? It was the load out of things to wade and fill. with ultra light tackle and catch fish in next to no water. Very small creeks, very shallow creeks, very spooky fish. And we'll talk about the tackle a little bit too. But to me, if there are things that get in the way of me parking the car and being in the water, see, this is the worst part of fishing for me, this stretch of park the car, get into the water.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Get into fishing, right? This is why I don't boat. This is why I don't own a boat. Because when you have a boat, you take that stretch and you turn it into a nightmare. Do we got to get gas? We got to back it in. We got to go park. And now we got to drive too much time out of fishing for me, just too much time.
Starting point is 00:15:21 So what I always found is the quickest way to get into the water from the vehicle. Do you know what I mean? Grab the bag. I always keep the poles in the car. now that I drive a truck, I keep them in a PVC pipe, actually. Sort of like a survival cache. It's like a big survival cache for rods that break into another thing that's essential, right? You want a rod that breaks into two parts.
Starting point is 00:15:47 That way, if you are driving a sedan, it can go in the trunk, and you're always ready. You're perpetually prepared to fish at a moment's notice. Now, that's not as essential as it is as it once was for me. When I was in high school and just out of high school, it was a much bigger deal, you know, because weird things would happen. You know, I would get out of school early or maybe I didn't have work on a day. I thought I had work or maybe I had extra time. Maybe I had like two hours between school and work. And it was off to the creek, you know.
Starting point is 00:16:26 It was off to the creek. I used to have a job that started at noon, and for me, that's like, I'm up, you know, at 5 o'clock at the morning. I'd take the dog out to the Brandywine River, fishing the morning, come home, drop him off. He's dead tired now and head off to work. And, you know, that sort of go bag for fishing, that whole setup, all that stuff was essential. So when I start adding special hats and sunglasses and nets, never carried a net, nets, all that kind of stuff. Like, it's just slowing me down.
Starting point is 00:17:06 It's too many things, you know. It's about efficiency into the game. Garden Girl says, I think sometimes my dad would take me places and didn't even have fish just so we could hang out and talk. Yeah, well, you know, I didn't know it at the time, but this was. this was my dad and I's relationship for sure and what fishing with dad made me realize was there's a lot of fun there's a lot of fun in you know fighting against that weakness in the morning to wake up and it's not necessarily a bad thing for your kids to uh What is it? What did I feel? There were days I was very excited to go fishing with dad, and there were days that I just wanted to sleep in, but I didn't want to let him down. And so I just got up and went anyway, and we had a good time always. But I always felt through much of my life, I always felt like I suffered from nice guy syndrome. You know what I mean? And I used to look back on that and say,
Starting point is 00:18:29 that's what I was doing with dad too. You know, like I did it with so many people. That's what I was doing with dad. Dad wanted to go fishing. He wanted me to come. And that's what this man wanted. What I wanted was maybe to sleep in and hang out with somebody, do something different. But that sort of syndrome in my head was like, let's not disappoint him.
Starting point is 00:18:51 And he was never, it was never a problem. He would come into my room, be dark. He'd wake me up. You coming? yes or no and he'd leave either way if i said yes i'm coming then he'd leave i'd get up and we you know go downstairs and eat sometimes not eat we'd eat on the way there and then talk and roll out you know what i mean and even when i said no i'm not coming which was pretty rare um he would leave it was a big deal he'd never bring it up you know he'd come home and he'd tell me about what happened you go oh i caught
Starting point is 00:19:25 to did this did that but he never it was never like i don't think he ever once said you should have came you know what i mean it was never like that it was really weird um because it's like non-characteristic of how people work you know what i mean it's so that was such a weird thing but yeah the the hours spent driving with dad and the hours spent fishing with dad we would not have the relationship that we have if we didn't do that. It would be totally different, totally different relationship because we invested hours into hanging out every weekend. And the same thing happens when you take your kid. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:20:15 The same thing happens. When you're out fishing nowadays, it's even more than it was back then. you know, as valuable as it is or as it was to me because it kept me out of trouble, you know, it taught me waking up early and the value of that. It taught me all kinds of stuff, the value of patience and, you know, what a difference a skill set can make when you really hone it. You know, fishing is probably one of the things I'm best at, like out of everything. And I'm good at a lot of stuff, but it's probably the thing I'm best at.
Starting point is 00:20:50 and just the value of it taught me the nuance of what being really good at something is. You know what I mean? Like the nuance of it, like how you see things other people don't. When you're good at something, exceptional, right? When you're good at something like that, you see things people don't see, you feel things people don't feel, you hear things people don't hear because you've been just honing that skill forever. You know, six, probably about six, between six and eight years old is when I started consistently going fishing almost every weekend with that when it was nice out.
Starting point is 00:21:31 It was basically March to November, March to early November. And, you know, by the time I think I was 11, 12, I was fly fishing with dad. And that was a whole other can of worms. But it was the same mentality, though. Understand that. like the weighed fishing, the fly fishing vest that kept us mobile and gave us the ability to, you know, walk the creek, stalk the trout, catch the trout. It was, we were lucky because we had stocked trout streams that also held smallmouth bass.
Starting point is 00:22:03 So we always had, we always had a quarry. You know what I mean? We always had a prey that we were after. And it allowed us to tweak things and play with things in different baits. And, you know, what it presents to people now is the antithesis of this. The antithesis, my phone's not around me, but the antithesis of the phone in the digital world. It really is. It's the complete opposite.
Starting point is 00:22:33 And you feel it. You can feel it. You can feel that the world out there is a very different one compared to the world in the screens. after a day, a half day, whatever it is out there. It's just you're just firing off different parts of you. And it's invaluable. It's like a reset button. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:57 It's like a reboot. What's hard is getting people into fishing when you're sitting still in fishing. Because there's nothing more boring. See, what my dad did. in getting us into this wading fishing thing, where we were walking all the way down a creek and all the way back up to the car, right, in the water. Is he sunk me into a world where there was just a lot to see and a lot to do,
Starting point is 00:23:31 even when the fish weren't biting. Do you know what I mean? Like some days we would, and you could do this any time. I've done this with my own kids. It's fun to do. You'll get into a shallow, fast-running water type of, area and you can reach down and grab rocks and look under the rocks and you'll see everything that the fish are eating you know you'll see things like mayflies and caddus fly larvae those kinds of
Starting point is 00:24:02 things right emerging uh or or what are they called the various stages of these bugs that are that trout eat and small mouth eat you might get lucky and see a a crazy little segmented wormy creature with these pinchers on its mouth called the Helgrimite and the Helgrimite is it will bite you but the
Starting point is 00:24:27 Helgrimite is devastating on small mouth absolutely devastating but there's a world under there you know you might even run into some crayfish if it's you know summertime I've found snakes under rocks poisonous snakes under rocks in the water
Starting point is 00:24:45 Scared the hell out of me. Actually, just this past year. So it's a very different animal what we did. Plus, we were always moving. Now, the scenery is always changing. Now, the quarry's always changing. Now, the puzzle that stood before us was always changing. I want to talk to you about the puzzle because it's another one of these unique parts of fishing, the way that we fish.
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Starting point is 00:28:07 The hosts here at PBN, you know, it's just a great. One of the books, though, and this is essential reading for any fishermen, a central reading. And as you can see, this book is old. This book has been read. This book is, there's a lot going on, man. The inside covers falling off when it came out. It was $8.95. But this book, How to Find Fish and Make Them Strike by Joseph Bates Jr.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Yes, his name is DeBates. That's pretty funny. I should get some more of his books, man. I bet he's got great book. I never, never have seen it. Elementary fishing, reading the water. That's the one you want. Reading the water is the one you want.
Starting point is 00:28:49 That's what this book is. This book is about reading water. This is what sets, I'm trying to see if I could show you this. I don't want the camera to search for my head. This is what this book has. what I'm showing for the podcast audience is the various graphics in the book that show you where the fish are. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:29:15 Here's the other value. This is my life growing up right here. This top image. Oh, I lost it. This top image right here. All right. Let's just take this ratty cover off. You see what I mean?
Starting point is 00:29:29 This thing's ancient. This thing is guided. There's all the covers falling apart. Is that the one? Yeah, that's the one. This thing right here, this image has, this is my life growing up, man. Like, literally, this is my life. I go to a body of water and like I said, I look at it probably very differently than you unless you've been fishing like I fished your whole life.
Starting point is 00:29:55 That book will show you how to read a body of water. It'll tell you where the fish are at. Oh, I could send it to you, J. Ferg, if you need it. I didn't know you needed a copy. Yeah, I'll send it to you. But it's one of those things, man. You know, it's one of those things that, like, a book like that will make you look at a body of order differently and will instantly improve how you fish, how often you catch. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:24 What that did for me, because of the type of fishing that we did and because of the things that I learned, is it turned every fishing hole into a puzzle. And this made fishing incredible, you know, it really did. It made fishing incredible because you would look at an eddy in an eddy pool in the back of a running stream. And you would say to yourself, how do I approach this? How do I approach these fish? How do I cast, right? How do I present my lore so that it looks normal? Because again, we're fishing in these small creeks and other people fish them.
Starting point is 00:31:04 And what that means is now you're in a position where Now you're in a position I'm trying to find an example for you while talking Now you're in a position where you're fishing for fish That know when people are around They've seen baits, they know what the deal is And this is pretty good And if you do things that are too unnatural
Starting point is 00:31:28 They're not going to bite. It's that simple Man, this is a good book I'm trying to find a picture of one that looks something like This is pretty good But it's got the bank This is the one that we would face pretty often This is a pretty regular one that we would face If you could see
Starting point is 00:31:54 So the fish are lined up on the bank This fast moving water We are approaching for when you're approaching the fish from downstream Or right up Downstream which means the water is flowing, you know, and you're walking downstream the direction that the water is flowing. The fish are looking up at you.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Fish are always looking up street because the food's coming down. You know what I mean? So they see you. The other thing about fishing the way that we fish, right? The weighed fishing in the water is I didn't realize the level of respect that I gained for fish, and I would talk to people about it, and they would look at me like I'm crazy.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Like some of you who are listening and watching probably are looking at me right now. You're probably saying the fish are too stupid. They don't know you're there. You know what I mean? I've seen it with my own eyes. It's an irrefutable fact. It's irrefutable. You watch fish behave.
Starting point is 00:32:56 The way that we watch fish behave growing up, you understand the camouflage works fishing in fishing the same way that camouflage works in hunting. I've seen my father in bushes. We always dressed in green. Now, we did go out on Sunday, so we often had eagles clothes on. And we were just lucky that in that generation, it was a midnight green. You could throw on an eagle's hoodie, and you'd blend in pretty well. But we always were green. We always, we treated fishing like hunting. And it was because we had to have success, I think. You know, because like I said, these fish were finicky. They were in small streams.
Starting point is 00:33:37 They were easy to scare. And once they got scared, they weren't going to bite. So we learned how to approach a hole, right? How to approach it in a way that you're not immediately scaring the fish and then how to present the bait that way. And when you get into fly fishing in waters like that, it's 10 times harder. Because now you're flopping a big giant line on the water, right? And that's going to make waves and do all that kind of stuff. it might land on top of the fish because your bait's over to the right and you want to swing that bait in front of the fish you've got to be careful where the line lands right i scare the hell out of anything um if it weren't as hard i don't know that i would have been as into it but we did always have success too that that was the difference so there was that element of difficulty and then there was that element of like
Starting point is 00:34:30 like success under pressure and difficulty. And I don't know, man, that just, it was the recipe. It was the recipe. Physically demanding, right? So now it's not just fishing, but it's also this physically demanding thing that strengthened me as a young man and kept my father young as a guy who had kids late. You know, when I'm 10 years old with him, he's 46. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:35:00 He's approaching 50. Of course he was in phenomenal shape, right? Hey, what's up born to Brat? We, uh, except for like one day a year fundamentally. Except for about one day a year, we caught in release unless we caught something that was monumental, you know. There was some times we brought some fish home because they were just enormous. And I don't know. It was one of those things, you know?
Starting point is 00:35:31 But, yeah, 99% of the time we were catching and releasing fish all day. You know, we lived by the adage that, you know, you catch a big fish or you catch a fish in general. You put them back because they're going to make more fish. You know what I? You pull all the fish out. There's no more fun. And like I said, why this was such a big deal, the dad was because it was free. It was gas. It was gas money. It was scrappelin egg sandwich money and maybe lunch money.
Starting point is 00:36:05 So we could have these great adventures together. And it was for nothing. It was for very little. And that's what he had, you know what I mean, to give. It wasn't like he could go out on the weekends with me and spend $200 on something. You know what I mean? And it's the same for you, right? It's the same for you. You have to understand the value of that. Once you establish, and I can, we can talk about this, but I think it would be better to get you a list. Once you establish that fishing tackle, and like I said, you can get fishing tackle for dirt cheap, you know, and I'm not talking about like go thrift shopping and go finding it. No, I'm just talking about going to Walmart and knowing what to buy. You know, one of the most important things that you can have, and most people don't use it, most people don't have it because they think they're going to catch. the biggest fish of their lifetime, which is part of fishing.
Starting point is 00:37:00 I mean, I've been driven to the waters for years and years and years on the hopes of catching the biggest fish I've ever caught. But people assume that you need 20-pound test fishing line to go largemouth bass fishing. And I've gone fishing now in my latter years, take a lot of people fishing. When I was working, I did it a lot more than now because... because I don't run into as many people, you know what I mean, who want to go fishing. But almost everybody who finds out I'm fishing wants to go fishing. But I'm also taking my kids more now. Back in those days, I had babies.
Starting point is 00:37:39 You know what I mean? And they weren't quite, they were good for a few trips a year, particularly in the spring, when the bluegills were really biting and spawning. So now it's more time with them. But when I take guys fishing adults, they would bring their fishing tackle. They'd always have at least 10 pound test on 10, 12, 20, 18, whatever. Like an unbelievable line.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Like fishing line that looked like, I don't even have pools on these. You know, something like this hanging off the ride. That was an H.D.M.I cable for the podcast audience. No, but really, just line that's just tremendous. You can't even believe it. And again, it goes back to that respect for the fish. Fish have eyes.
Starting point is 00:38:23 They get eaten by each other. Like, it's brutal to be a fish. they see your big ass line they see your weird bait come by and it doesn't look exactly right and then they see your big line and they go okay especially if it's a big fish who's been around a long time he's seen it he's seen it all he's like i know what that is it's not food right low vis green four pound test line and you'll catch more fish than you've ever caught in your life it's really that simple you make this switch from your 20 pound test line to a 4 pound test tri-lein low-vis green green colored line what colors the
Starting point is 00:39:06 water you fish in it's green right low-vis green four-pound test line i guarantee you you're going to get hung up on the bottom and and you're going to struggle to break four-pound test if you get hung up on like a tree or something you're going to struggle to break that line i've caught all kinds of fish larger than four pounds on four pound test line. It just works and you'll catch more fish. You know what I mean? You'll catch more fish. I don't know that you'll catch the biggest fish.
Starting point is 00:39:39 I mean, I've caught six pound bass on four pound test line. It works. I've caught 15 pound catfish on four pound test line. You know what I mean? It'll work. Particularly if you know how to fight a fish, you know, if you hook a fish, If you set the hook on a big fish and just drag it in with all your might, then yeah, your four-pound test line will break. When you fish with lightweight tackle, you learn all kinds of things.
Starting point is 00:40:09 You know what I mean? One of the things that you learn is you've got to give line to these fish. You've got to tire a big fish out. It's a same. And you also learn that from fly fishing because fly fishing, it's always a lightweight tippet. And the tippet is like, the last part of your fishing line that you tie your fly to. So it's always, sorry, the camera thinks I want to close up.
Starting point is 00:40:34 It always thinks that, you know, you're always thinking rather than my tip it's going to break. I need to play this fish. I need to wear this fish out. And that's what it takes. It takes giving a little and taking and giving and taking. And you get to the point where the fish is tired and then you reel it in. But I tell you, you will have a way.
Starting point is 00:40:54 If you change just one thing, go to the four-pound test, low-vis green line. This is for freshwater fishing. If you're out there catching tuna, I don't know what the hell you need. You know what I mean? But if you're catching crappy and bass and sunfish and doing all that kind of stuff, use smaller line and make it green. Make it a green-colored line because it disappears in the water, and it's better. I fish side by side with people who could fish, couldn't fish, and so on.
Starting point is 00:41:21 and just they look at me and they get frustrated because I'm catching fish all the time. You know what I mean? We use the same bait, all that kind of stuff. I've tested it all together with other people. Yeah, it's just one of those things, man. It's one of those things that little tweaks like that make a world a difference. And we learn these things. We learn these things from great fishing writers.
Starting point is 00:41:45 My father would pour over fishing books constantly. You pass these things on. You know what I mean? these things are generational because they're cheap, because they work, because it's fun, because fishing is timeless. Fishing is timeless and it works for everybody. That's the crazy thing about it. You know, you tell certain people you're a hunter and, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:42:13 I couldn't do it. I couldn't. Anybody can hook a fish and take it off the hook and let it go. You know what I mean? It's not, there's no moral quandary there. If there is, you know, calm down. But there's not a lot of moral quand. country there, right? It's sort of like, it's just one of these pastimes. It's one of these pastimes that
Starting point is 00:42:31 we're forgetting, you know, just like hunting. There's less people buying fishing and hunting licenses and fishing and hunting than ever before because you can do it on your iPhone because you can do it in VR. What I'm telling you, it is the antithesis of that. It really is. It's a very different thing, man. It's a very different thing. Where do we want to go? Where do we want to go? Do we want to do a little... Do we want to do a little dog ears? I got on this topic because we were doing the Henry David Thoreau last week.
Starting point is 00:43:09 We talked Thoreau all week. And it pulled this... I was talking to my father about... I was talking to my father about it in general. You know, like fishing in general. All you need to be a fisherman is patience and a worm. Herbert Shriver. I'm telling you that this book...
Starting point is 00:43:34 I showed you guys this book. if you are a fisherman, you should own it. If you fish consistently, it's a book you should have. The Fisherman's Guide to Life, because it's one of these things you eat. My dad gave it to me because it was so good, right? Here's Sparse Greyhackle. Again, I opened this show with Sparse Gray Hackle. This one's one of my favorites.
Starting point is 00:43:56 If fishing interferes with your business, give up your business. Here's an old fisherman saying, which is, this was me and my dad for sure. The two best times to go fishing are when it's raining and when it's not. Yeah. Dad always used to say this, too, he's still here. I talk about him on these shows like he's gone, he's still here. A bad day fishing still beats a good day working. That was almost at the end of everyone, right?
Starting point is 00:44:27 At the end of every trip, there was something like that if we didn't catch well. Angling is somewhat like poetry. Fish come and go, but it is the memory of afternoons on the stream that endure. Donald Thomas. Yeah, like I said, it's just one of those things. You'll remember it forever. Your kids will remember it forever. It's just what it is.
Starting point is 00:44:59 No fish. This is a good one. Jeffrey Norman. Jeffrey Norman says, no fisherman ever fishes as much as he wants to. The ancient proverb, a good fisherman can secure many regenerative hours in winter polishing up the rods and reels. See, we tie flies this time of year as fly fisher.
Starting point is 00:45:23 not too much from me now this is from jimby carter no matter how you feel about them the quote the quote lines up one of the turning points of my life was when i got my first bait casting outfit it's the truth man let's see oliver wendell holmes you can catch your next fish with a piece of your last that's interesting that that can apply to multitudes of things so folks uh it's February almost We're days away from February. You know, springtime will be here. Crappy fishing will be here. Maybe trout fishing in your area will be here.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Maybe all of that sounds foreign to you. You know what I mean? Maybe it does. Maybe all that sounds foreign to you. I'm telling you right now, no matter what financial bracket you're in, you know, if you're looking for that thing, that thing to get your family together to do, that thing to get your teenager out of the house to do, you know, all that kind of kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Take up your old fishing rod or take up the fishing rod and build the importance of it into your life and into your family's life by putting the stuff around. Have the things around. Watch videos. Your kids wake up. They come down in the morning on the weekend. They see what you're watching. Every weekend my dad had fishing shows on.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Every weekend. Every Saturday morning, fishing shows. Build dance. falling off the dock being him, Jimmy Houston. Every morning we watched it in fishermen. Every Saturday we were watching. He would make breakfast. We'd sit there.
Starting point is 00:47:12 We'd watch fishing shows. We'd, oh, let's try that tomorrow because we would enjoy Saturday and fish Sunday. Come home, watch the Eagles. But it was very clear when you were in our house that dad was a fisherman. Piled books piled up, fishing books piled up on the coffee table next to his seat. It was very clear. a fisherman fishing hats on you know that whole thing what i think where parents struggle when they when they seek to do new things with their kids is the kids don't understand the value you know they look
Starting point is 00:47:48 at they like why is dad want to do this like what's important about look you see this table over here this is what's happening in my life because of warhammer of all things right they my kids know There's a perceived value in our household now. They're not at all interested in painting. They're not interested in it whatsoever. But there's a perceived value in it for dad. It's not like, what are you talking about, dad? I didn't even know you like that.
Starting point is 00:48:21 I think a lot of parents get in trouble when they spring this weird stuff on their kids, this new stuff, and the kids are used to their routine. And then all of a sudden they're like, we're going to go hike a mountain on Monday. You know what I mean? And they're like, why? For what? You know, we play yachtsy. What are you talking about? So if you're going to get into fishing, get back into fishing, you're going to, and you want to bring the family along for the journey, like, you have got to be the one to show them the passion. You've got to be the one that's in the fishing books and watching the fishing videos and maybe tying flies or painting your own bait. You know, one of the crazy things you can do with a little machine like that over there is you can 3D print your own fishing lords. That's fun. You know what I mean? All that stuff is an option and it, there has to be perceived value in it. You know, the other thing, you've got to catch. So you've got to find the places that where you can catch fish. There's a ton of, there's a ton of apps on phones now. I don't know because I find fishing holes the old
Starting point is 00:49:29 fashion way. I go look for fish. You know what I mean? I go look. for rivers on maps and go look at them. And I look and I stare in the water and I look upstream. I look downstream. I look at the vegetation. I can tell you if there's going to be fishing it or not. One big tell, you can look for the herons. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:49:49 If you look for what eats fish and they're sitting there eating fish or looking for fish and, you know, they're here. But yeah, you have to add that value. You may have to go out for a few times by yourself. Dad's going out. Where's dad? He's out fishing. Where's dad? He's out fishing. Guys got to come out fishing. Let's go fishing next. You know what I mean? And make it fun. Don't be crazy. Don't, you know, I'll go into parenting if we go down that too far. So what is fishing, man? It's different for all kinds of people. But it's one of the craziest outdoor adventures because of that. Because it is so different.
Starting point is 00:50:28 You know, everybody's fishing memories are very different. What I would, like you to do is to dig into the sort of fishing that I did growing up, which is a lot of movement, movement into the woods, maybe even wading in the waters, right? And wading in water is tough. You know, it's one of those things you've got to have balance. You'll fall in. And that's okay. And water's dangerous. So all that stuff you have to take into account. But you also teach your kids that. Your kids will learn, oh, water's dangerous. Oh, if I fall in the water, it sucks. Oh, I've got to have balance. I've got to have steady footing clambering over rocks in rushing water, right? I could go on and on, man.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Like the things that you learn doing that are unfathomable. And most importantly, it's not taking on a hobby that's going to break you, you know. And maybe what I'll do in all my spare time, what I need to do is put together a dirt cheap fishing loadout for weighed fishing in the spring because I mean it with all sincerity it's it's cheap it's it's one of the few things you can do cheap you can set it up cheap and you can have a great time for years decades generations that's what it is folks you know to me that's what fishing is to me it's a generational pursuit that my life and and who I am would be completely different without it, completely different.
Starting point is 00:52:02 We didn't even get into the stress management. You know what I mean? And how fishing just gives you that moment of solace and silence to just, oh, it's a rough week. But you know what? I'm going fishing. I'm going to go get out in the sun. I'm going to get in the water. I'm going to focus on something other than my problems.
Starting point is 00:52:22 You know, my father used to say that the water, because we're standing in the water waiting. You know, I used to say that the water washes your water. problems downstream. And he was a guy with some problems. You know what I mean? So it was, yeah, it's one of those things. I want to end the show by reading you something. It's from a book that I have not yet published.
Starting point is 00:52:47 It is exclusively a fishing book. It's called Fishing for the Answers, The Walton's Guide to Life. And the intro to this book I wrote, Before I knew I was going to write a fishing book. It's a little lengthy, but it's how we're going to end the show. Be sure to go down in the show description below. Okay, please. Check out our incredible sponsors.
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Starting point is 00:55:05 This is how the whole idea came to be. It's not, it's a story, okay? It's a little lengthy. It's a story. It is quite personal. But it's, you know, it's important. It's how it all came to be. And it's, well, let's just read it.
Starting point is 00:55:27 What is it that makes a boy? Imagine a little boy is only a full round head with thin wire for legs, a body and arms. Imagine that round face dotted with freckles like a band under each eye and over his nose. While little boys are born with certain inclinations, they're much more a collection of experiences that wrap around those spindly appendages. These experiences wrap the boy, like thread, and slowly build a child. into what he will someday become. Dark thread around his arms from catching balls, drawing cartoons and wrestling.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Turns of thread on each leg from running and climbing, like forming the body of a fly at a vice with thread and dubbing. Each rap is as important as the previous. Sometimes red wraps of thread wind around a young boy's mind from trauma and pain. Imagine a boy with a heart. heart wrapped in olive green, shaped like a bobber, thumping for the tight lines and smallmouth bass. This type of boy would enjoy seclusion, introspection, probably more than most.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Horror films and midday cooking shows would both hold value in the life of a boy like this. He would struggle to understand his position in the world and thus create a whole new set of worlds and rules. A boy like this would have a mother. who by all standards would be the pinnacle of what it means to be a mom. She would sit on the cusp of what a mother and a woman once was, what could be and what should be. She was tender when it required and tough. Most of all, she would hear him.
Starting point is 00:57:22 A mother and a son like this would converse, and not just in order to satisfy and silence the boy, but to know him. She would not send him a cross look like a glowering face while giving her true attention to the cell phone. Most important of all, a boy like this would have a mother who would push him along his own path, allowing him to be just what and who he wanted, the rest of the world be damned.
Starting point is 00:57:49 The mother like this would not be immune to tragedy, but even though the fires and subsequent dowsings of life, he would still see the framework of the woman that crafted him. The boy with the olive heart would also have a sister. A sister like this would have patience. For a boy like this would be very curious. And she would be an older sister, unless her privacy much more important than he could understand. The small fissures in their relationship would form, as one would expect, in teenage years.
Starting point is 00:58:26 However, they would share the same yoke, nearly twins born six years apart. Maybe they would share seats at the windows, watching thunderstorms. or nights on the dining room table playing board games. Siblings like these would work for their relationship. They would fill those small fissures with great memories and dreams and a growing family. They would smooth the foundation with new yet rare adventures. Siblings like these would die happy if for no other reason than the gift of a lifetime together. Of course, a boy like this, an olive-hearted boy would have a father.
Starting point is 00:59:04 His father would be a man made up of many, red threads. A father like this, in fact, would have so many red threads that he would wrap some of his own onto others. Thick thread that takes countless wraps to cover up. A father like this would be born in the 50s, born at a time that seems fictitious to those who live in the 21st century. This father would have had a father of his own naturally, who would dive into bottles for treasures and become a a violent sea monster himself spools of red thread and the boy with the olive heart would wake to the shaking of his shoulder his eyes would open up and a father like this would say you coming not in a voice that was demeaning no pressure the voice childlike a best friend who might stir you out of bed early for a day of fun that would be sunday morning with a father like this the type of a father and son who would find themselves in a beat-up car with a mouth full of bagel scrappling eggs they might laugh about sports and the last adventure they might pool up to a creek
Starting point is 01:00:18 that the rest of the world would drive by the type of creek that would babble behind a hardware store and under a busy road a creek like this would hold secrets these secrets would be speckled some buttery yellow with large dark spots and other silvery with technic color sheen. Secrets like these might wait, just downstream for a dry fly to sip. Nose turned up, people wouldn't believe that trout like these would come from small creeks that hide behind hardware stores and under large bridges. A story like this could be about the many details, or it could be wound up in one word,
Starting point is 01:01:01 adversity. A life like this, like mine and yours, is a lot like fishing. well that's a lie it's exactly like fishing fishing in small creeks for trout with a man trying desperately to wrap over his red thread and his boy with the olive art

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