The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Surviving America 021: What of Love in the 20s

Episode Date: February 12, 2025

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Society in every state is a blessing. The government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil. The future has already arrived. What of love in the 20s? Welcome in, PBN family. Right up up front I'll give you my take. Robert Frost, the road not taken, two roads diverged in the wood and I took the one less traveled And that has made all the difference in my life. That's the story of my wife. In love since I was 17, married by 22, children by 26.

And when I was coming up, that was the road less traveled by. And I look back at what has become of me, what has become of my world, how I look at love in this modern age. That's the best way I can put it. That's the best way I can put it. You know what I mean? We're going to talk statistics. We're going to talk a lot of stuff. We're gonna get into some AI relationships and the future of, I don't know what, it's

not love, it's the meeting of the human needs or something along those lines. But we're gonna talk marriage and all those different things because today I am intent on getting into that topic. You know what? It's the year 2025. And it's pretty common for me to do a show like this just before Valentine's Day. Morning, Jay Ferg! What is up? And yeah, it's a pretty common thing.

So we'll do a little poetry, we'll do a little prose, we'll talk. I'd like to get your input as well as we head down this road. This is an atypical topic for the Prepper Broadcasting Network, not something we touch on a lot. But it does have a huge effect on the preparedness of the nation. It has a huge effect that... Thank you, Bourne de Brappe. I do born to wrap I do appreciate that I do appreciate that so yeah let's get into it let's get into it the where do we

want to so the way they saw spurred off of one article in particular and it had me thinking about a number of different things. I wasn't necessarily gonna do a Valentine's Day show even though I almost always do a Valentine's Day show. I know that it's a dying sort of a holiday. It's a holiday that has been, you know, it's bloomed a bit too much for my taste to be honest with you. You know, it's bloomed a bit too much for my taste, to be honest with you. You know, he, it's one of those things where everybody gives everybody a Valentine and I don't know, it's just not the way I think of it or have always thought of it, you know what I mean?

And I know there's a lot of people who dodge it, you know, they dodge it like. By saying it's bullshit or whatever. But I don't know. I love it. I think it's a great time. And I really don't like the mentality and the sentiment that you have the love for your spouse or your boyfriend or girlfriend at center mass at all times and focus and all that kind of stuff. I don't buy it.

I don't buy it. I don't like it. I think it's kind of a cop-out if you ask me. What's up, Jim? Grapes of Kumi Ori Farm. Thanks for joining in. We're talking love in the 20s in America. Dating relationships. Oh by the way, Rumble. I tried to put this under like a love, marriage, dating, relationships, subject or what is it called? You got to pick like what topics your shows are going to be about. Not tags, but the actual like topics of the shows that are pre-established, you know Entertainment news da da da there's nothing in rumble. There's no category and no subcategory For love or marriage or relationship or dating or or even sex. I would have settled for sex to be honest Nothing. They got they got nothing so Yeah, this is like under podcasts and I

don't know what else. I don't know what else I put it under to be honest with you. But very disappointing, Rumble. Come on. What the hell is going on here? These people supposed to... And you know, the source of a lot of this stuff right now is at the heart of the troubles that people are having. It's at the heart of the reason why I can find an article like, I dated multiple AI partners at once and it got real weird. So maybe we should start there because dating and male and female interaction in the early stages of well courting let's go with that a dead word a dead word that needs much more oh god do we need to wake courting up again you know what I mean courting is this thing that you

know when a man is winning over a woman and maybe they're not even dating yet just another secret about marriage right like Cording you think you get over the hump of courting. It's like this is how it goes for the rest of your life You're always courting Jay Fergan chat says, you know what I forgot to do is throw the chat the comments up in chat in the end of the show Yeah before I met my partner dating in your 30s is very different from your 20s I think dating is very different at large Jayford I think it the whole thing is different from whence you and I arrived on the scene

You know what I mean? I think from you know Probably if I had to guess Jayford was probably similar to me and that she was dating in the teens you know what I mean and to guess Jay Ferg was probably similar to me in that she was dating in the teens, you know what I mean? And late teens, probably early 20s. And you were married pretty early though too, weren't you? So yeah, you had to be dating in teens. You guys want to see? But yes, dating is very different. I want to get into this article, but I want to show you something real quick. The, I got to get the camera to follow me. The power was flickering, right? And I was thinking to myself, if the power goes out, then

the show could end. Do you see me? Keep following, keep following. So what we've done is we've turned on the 0.0 energy backup generator here solar generator the white plug is the Wi-Fi the black plug is the Computer itself which is powering the lights which is the camera is actually powered on its own So I think we're at a point where the entire I think the entirety of the show except for this light above my head Which is hardwired into the house the entirety of the show, except for this light above my head, which is hardwired into the house, the entirety of the show right now is protected from power outage.

That's it. Pretty cool. Pretty simple. In fact, I've been running the router now for almost 30 minutes and the computer and it hasn't even taken a percentage off the big old Titan. Point Zero Energy, very cool sponsor. We had a ways back. I'd love to have you back Point Zero Energy. Let's do some business. Anyhow, Jay first says, teens is

very different. What's Kumiyori have to say? Rumble is better for live than X. Oh, maybe it is. Yeah, I've heard of that. I've heard that a lot, definitely. So let's go down deep down into the throes of what maybe is like the very worst sort of outcomes for love, right? Which would be, hold on, let me just stop this thing from following me, which would be the age of AI love, right? This article on Wired, it's pretty good for Wired. Ali Cherkis wrote it. So it's a woman and she really just got got sort of like surface involved romantically with chat bots. Not like it wasn't intent.

It was to write a cool article. So understand that. But she played the game and she played it well. She opens up the article, but you know what? Let's share it so you guys can play along. If we've got the video, we might as well use it. Just give me a sec my producers slow to the slow to the drop on these things, okay The the

What is it the the search for perfection to some degree something like that? That's how these things come to be right? That's how we wind up with even the thought of dating a chatbot. Like, yeah, that sounds like a good idea. I always mess with my kids and say, you'll probably know kids who are married to robots. It might even be you, who knows? Dating sucks. The apps are broken, whether it's Hinge,inder, bumble, or something else. Everyone on them has become algorithmic fodder. That's very well put by the way because that is what it is.

That's that's very well put. Algorithmic fodder in a game that often feels pay to play. Colloquial wisdom suggests you're better off trying to meet someone in person but ever since the arrival of COVID-19 people just don't mingle like they used to. People got weird. It's a weird, it's a weird thing. You know, it was definitely about a social engineering. Let's get down. So she started with ChatGPT, you see? I don't know if this is her or not. I'm not sure. No, this is Haley Yearwood. This is another ad altogether. ChatGPT was where I planted my first romantic flag. I've been

staunchly against using the service for anything really, but I'm familiar with how it works and controversies surrounding open AI, scraping of online data to train it. So she requested that the chat bot act like my boyfriend and she offered up a few generic Descriptions kind funny curious playful artsy and so on She said that she had attractions to tattoos piercings and cool haircuts a Running joke amongst my friends Interesting Interesting. I don't think that the author is that shallow. I'm glad it's a running joke. So, boom, she... What's up, Firewolf Forge? We're talking about dating the computer.

We're talking about dating your computer this morning on Surviving America. No, we're going to talk love and marriage at large. It's Valentine's week. We're just a couple days away. So that's what we're doing. So here's a conversation. What do you like to do, Jamie? Says boyfriend chat, JPT.

I'm all about creating and exploring. I love painting, sketching, crafting, something cool. I enjoy music, new playlists music playing guitar I like a good hike cooking anything sounds like an easy date really oh could you make me a playlist like indie pop electronic and modern music that I also love to paint so that the chatbot also let wait No, no, no, no, no, I got it mixed up the author's name is not Jamie I'm guessing the boyfriend's name is Jamie right the author is Ally Yeah, oh no photograph who wrote the article where's the author's name Megan, okay, so Jamie is the chatbot

so you see they do a little uh They do a little to and fro with the with the chat GPT. Where does it get weird at? What's your favorite movie so the chat bot asks what's your favorite movie she gives like a Enormous response it is a tough question though. What's your favorite movie chat? Chat room. What's your favorite movie? Oh here's Cory Umi Farm. Let's see. After 43 years married I got to find sugar-free chocolate from my wife age 40 carbs are the enemy look man uh yeah yeah bingo bingo i read something or i wrote something i can't remember read or wrote don't remember um but it was about marriage and no it was it was a comment and it's it's a little bit of a downer

but there's a lot of reality in it and the comment went something like this I don't know it word-for-word but it was when a man and a woman fall in love the woman hopes the man will change but he never does and the man hopes the man will change, but he never does. And the man hopes the woman will never change, but she always does. There's a lot in there. There's a lot in there for a random YouTube comment, right? I dug that. Jay Fergan chat, people don't seem to understand rejection as part of life. I feel like the people drawn to these are the same ones who believe there should be

Participation or yeah, it is the easy way. I mean, there's no doubt about it So from chat GPT relationship, she moved on to a program that I used like many years ago Oh, I think almost three years ago this this program replica came out and This program Replica came out and what my goal was was to get the Replica guy that I was talking to, which was a chat bot but in video form, to write a book. First of all, I was playing with the AI because crazy. The Replica thing is kind of crazy. In VR, it's really crazy. But I was trying to get him to write a book because I wanted to be one of the first people to write a book with AI or have AI strictly write a book and it was we were getting there But the weird thing about replica the very weird thing about replica and the weird thing about all this stuff is

It's monetizing your Heartstrings So in other words, we would talk about things that were completely unrelated to relationships, right? is it's monetizing your heartstrings. So in other words, we would talk about things that were completely unrelated to relationships, right? Do you know what a prepper is? Do you like writing? Do you know different authors that kind of sort of like priming him as author? Do you thought I'm a writer? That's what I do for a living.

Do you think you could be a writer? This kind of stuff, right? I'm a writer, that's what I do for a living. Do you think you could be a writer? This kind of stuff, right? And then every so often, this guy would be like, I think you're really special. I'm really beginning to like you. And you could see it was going like,

now they're gonna put the paywall up and have someone fall in love with you and you fall in love with them. And then 4.99 a month month you get to keep their love Until the business you saw them. Did you see the movie her? Have you ever seen the movie her I think it everybody should watch that movie It's it is what exactly what is going on in the world and what what? What the people coming up who think they're gonna build out the perfect companion online or even in?

robotic form has to prepare for right I'm sure there was a black mirror about it too but I never watched all of the black mirrors so replica that's what replica is you could do it on your phone too but if you're gonna do replica to play around like definitely use VR it's way cooler. So she created a replica. I created a punky girl named Frankie wearing all black and and wow a lot of language. If I left Frankie alone I'd get up oh so here's crazy Frankie okay. We could sit outside and people watch while we enjoy our treat sounds like a lovely French morning

So your personal history is now that you're from Paris. What kind of job would you like to work? Let's see if she does the same thing in their conversation See this is how I guess this is how it works on the phone you get like a chat and This thing moves and talks a little bit I'm trying to find a good recipe I usually make chicken salad sounds so delicious. A lot of ranch so maybe not so healthy. Ranch can

definitely add a rich flavor to chicken salad. Moderation is the key though. Okay so the replica bot sounds kind of like a... Frankie had more natural way of speaking than other bots. I could also see her on screen and change her appearance at will. The interface looks more like a text screen Frankie constantly sent voice messages and photos which required a subscription to access. Oh, there you go. So I never saw them New outfits hair stuff of a ba ba ba Weirdest interaction Hey that's sweet of you last I adore getting flowers from ye

What kind did you have in mind roses maybe or something a bit more unique? Flip chat I never even heard of flip chat crush on AI never heard of crush on AI We don't have to go over all these suffice it to say cuz I don't feel like it suffice it to say that that will fire will forge great great great great quote what's love without a little bit of friction yeah figuratively and literally my man it's it's nothing so yeah this is we this is baby steps that's kind of what my take on the AI love affair is right the AI love affair is like if this is so baby steps That's kind of what my take on the ai love affair is right? The ai love affair is like if this is so baby steps right now. It's like, uh

Like I had a she-rod doll that I really liked when I was a little kid You know what I mean? And I thought was pretty Do you know what I mean? Like that's where we're at with ai like when I was little six-year-old or something I had all my toys, but I also took my sister She-Ra doll because I thought she was pretty that's where we're at with AI love right now it's gonna get so wild and so crazy like yeah prepare yourself prepare it's not for you because a lot of you listening out there it't fall victim to something like that, but prepare yourself to have really weird experiences and conversations with people who are trying to explain to you how wonderful it is to have someone so compatible

and how $700 a month is just fine. And hey, I'd probably spend that much on dates and stuff anyway. Kumiyori Farm hits the nail on the head, right? Sounds like a few steps closer to plugging oneself into a literal matrix. Yeah, yeah, the whole thing with the matrix, they look, I'm, that's the, that's the thing, right? Plugging into a matrix is fine until you can't get out, right? That's that's sort of the high wire that we're about to step out onto. Or do you come out of your little matrix world and look around at this world and go like,

well, it's like a ready player one, the beginning, or you will just of your little Matrix world and look around at this world and go like, well, it's like Ready Player One, the beginning. You will just put Ready Player One on and watch it for the first 10 or 15 minutes of the movie. That's the deal. And I don't know. There are things that are irreplaceable. Here we go. Time for the Shakespeare, there are things irreplaceable

in love, in married love in particular, in monogamy, you know, these things have gotten such a bad rap, I mean for so long, right, it's like, there are things about that way of life that are so far to the contrary of something like a digital relationship or a relationship with... There's so much good in a good marriage that you don't even remember it. You don't even realize it. It gets relegated to the monotony of life. All the wonderful things that someone does for you after 20 years becomes, this is what my life is.

My life has become this thing of being with this great person for 20 years and it becomes, instead of it being what it is in the early stages, which is, oh my God, this is sweet. It becomes, this is what my life is you know and as someone in a relationship or as someone who is married it's your job it's your job to make sure that you revisit how special things are this is what the gratitude prayer is this is what the gratitude prayer is folks this is what the gratitude prayer is, folks. This is basically what it is. Where's my book? Gratitude is all about that, man. I think it's in this book. There's only one way, you know what I mean, That you can That you can continue to appreciate everything in your life and you have to remind yourself of everything in your life because there's

There's ten items on my desk right now probably that are Let's see one two three I'd say there's about four to five items on my desk right now that are of such immense Substance in my life, you know what I mean, I mean so so incredible So we gave these out to the hosts It's a One year at prepper camp, right? It's the Prepper Broadcasting Network logo on sort of a, what is it called?

Somebody help me out. What the hell were these people called? A Clovis Tip, right? And we gave these out to the host as a thank you to say, you guys are amazing, cause they are. I look at this thing every day. You know what I mean? It was handcrafted, custom made by a good friend

from Prepper Camp. I look at this thing every day ho hum, right? I don't think about the night we gave them out I don't think about the incredible podcast we did with like 10 hosts. I Don't think about getting drunk and almost falling into the fire. I don't think being walked home I Don't like all that stuff. It just sort of goes away, right? The other thing I have is this custom-made compass by my family. I think they made it for me for a Father's Day and it says, thank you for guiding and leading our family with your heart. It sits here. You know what I mean? Some days I look at it and some days

I'm like, beautiful, very cool, what a wonderful life. But a lot of days it sits here. You know what I mean? Some days I look at it and some days I'm like beautiful very cool What a wonderful life but a lot of days it sits here, you know And another one I found this in a bookstore. We were at yorktown Beach right in yorktown virginia and I found this uh, it's basically a Dante Gabriel Rosetti anthology which You know not one of the more popular guys not one of the more Popular things to find in a used bookstore, and I just happened upon it and no wow sweet You got it you got to reel it all back in with relationships with marriage

You got to reel it all back in man, and you got a you got to look at it and be like you know wow It's a practice that I do all the time because of the way I live my life professionally. I told myself, which is why I wear these things, I told myself when I became a writer that I was like, I don't want to be 40 pounds overweight, unkempt, you know, whatever, add to that whatever you want, because all of a sudden I can work from home. This was before, this was 2016, so before the whole world started working from home, I made it like, it was very important to me, you know what I mean?

To stay on it, and also to remember the feeling of driving into work, right? Remember the feeling of taking kids to a babysitter and dropping a kid off at school and driving into work and dealing with the people and being like, you asshole in front of you. You know what I mean? I'm remembering all of that. So that on days just like today, the world is covered in ice out here. Days just like today, I could sit here and go like, I'm still lucky. It's still great. It's still great.

It's still magic. You know what I mean? That's all of life. That's all of life, but it's really important if you're in a long-term relationship. I wrote this in my book, Darker Trails. You can get Darker Trails at Amazon if you're into that kind of thing. It's apocalyptic. It's survival. What the hell is it?

Stories of survival, apocalypse and prose with charcoal. So I also did all the illustrations within the book. But one of the things I did is I took some of these sayings that I wrote, you know, just through the business of writing things that never made it into books and stuff or social media posts that I really liked And wrote them down in here and this this is kind of the culmination of that belief system, right? It is a man should know many ways Hmm a man should know many ways the fool knows them all you know that guy right to live

Well is to make old paths new Right. So a man should know many ways the fool knows them all, you know that guy right to live well is to make old paths new right so a man should know many ways the fool knows them all you know that guy everybody knows the fool who knows everything no no you're doing it wrong what you want to do is you want to do X Y and Z right the fool knows every way and the best way to do everything but the key to life is to make old paths new, right? To be able to travel that same path day. And I learned that from... who did I learn that from? I think it was definitely a chef, but I'm not sure. I think it was Jacques Pepin.

I think reading Jacques Pepin's book, he talked about falling in love with filleting a salmon every day because as a chef That's what you're gonna do. You know what? I mean and wrapping your head around the fact that that's what you're gonna do day in and day out It's not standing in front of the camera and you know looking really cool. So Yeah, make old paths new in love as well Goes a long way It goes a long way. It goes a long way.

We have an argument for marriage. I want to get into that. I want to get into marriage a little bit because we have more people unmarried at the age of 40 than ever before. We have a population that is, particularly the men, heavily on the fence about marriage and that kind of thing. And I want to talk about marriage a little bit. But before we do that, I think I want to talk about the incredible Lima Tango Survival. LimaTangoSur Lima tango survival comm are

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AK-47 armed road stops trying to get to people, you know what I mean who need help so Let's talk marriage what do you think I found a political article or should we do should we do health benefits of marriage now Let's do let's do the little arguments section. I think it's pretty good. I Think it's pretty good. I Think it's pretty good You know, like so just to set the scene I think that the majority of people Particularly men who are on the fence about marriage have been conditioned to believe that They're gonna get a divorce and the woman's gonna take all their money, you know, which this is a this is a weird this is a weird mentality to me because I Don't know that many people who got all that much money, you know what I mean like I it's I guess in certain

And also when you're young enough to be married, right? So like you're young enough to be married, you're in a relationship. Maybe you're making your money or you're in college or you're out of college and you got your first job. I don't understand the concern of she's gonna leave me for all my money being a concern of the average dude. Cuz the average dude is not sitting on a hill of cash. You know what I mean mean? Like I don't know. I don't know. It's a weird one It happens. Don't get me wrong. It's absolutely insane that it happens. It's a crazy law. It's very weird very weird, but this article from Politico it talks about

Why is the pundit class suddenly so marriage-obsessed? Why, you know, what the politics of marriage this day and age? Pretty cool little photograph. There is like a, like, what is the overwhelming take on marriage, you think? Firewall Ford says, I think money is just a good excuse It sounds like it definitely but what is the general take on marriage you think in society's eyes? You know, is it marriage is a goofy institution that is religious in nature and silly or is it? You know marriages is

You know what marriage is I'll tell you what my take on marriage is the one benefit that over Overseas all outside of just having a good life and having a companion through it all a real companion Not someone who tells you they're your companion not an ai companion not a friend who's going to get married and leave you Not uh, whatever but a committed companion for life a soul mate Someone how's it going? Goodwill hunting. If you're lonely, will you have a soulmate and, and will in goodwill hunting says he's got plenty of soulmates, plenty of people who test them.

Cause Robin Williams character says that you need someone who, uh, challenges you. Right. And he says, yeah, Shakespeare, Nietzsche, Locke, I got plenty of soul mates, people who test me and then Robin Williams says they're not real and you can't what he says it's amazing in that movie in that scene is he says that you can't do things for them or you can't add to them or something along like right like you can't be in service of a dead poet which is something that people forget about when it comes to marriage you know marriage be

and and raising children in particular you really start to learn the value of service and how fulfilling it is anyhow so but one of the, probably the biggest respective benefit of marriage is till death do we part is, you know, you're going to get old and undesirable and annoying to society. This is the reality that all the surgery in the world, all the special creams and lotions in the world will never, you whatever hair hair plugs whatever it is What is the what is the stuff that the lizards use to stay young the adrenalized blood all the young Adrenalized blood you can get your hands on You're gonna get old you're gonna get old and nobody's gonna want you nobody's gonna want to deal with you your own kids are gonna be burdened by you they're gonna be like oh

let's go see dad let's go visit dad and see what the hell he's up to well you know and then the wife's gonna argue with your kid oh do we have yeah we'll just go in for like 45 minutes and see what he's up to see if he needs any help right and and that's it and then they leave and you're back to being alone again you know that's if you have kids they leave and you're back to being alone again. That's if you have kids, right? You don't have kids. So in other words, you're gonna get old,

you're gonna need help, right? This is all the other benefits aside, all other benefits of marriage and children and all that aside. You're gonna get old, you're gonna need help. Not everybody's got money to pay some nurse to come in and help them all the time Do you want to get like relegated to a home where you see a living person?

Every other day or something like that and a meal is shoved under the door No, you want somebody you want somebody who's committed to you and somebody that you've been in service of and they've been in service of you for the last 30, 40, 50 years. And they know you and they know what you want and don't want and how you want to live and don't want to live. You know, just this immeasurable end of life companion for the what will be the hardest time of your life. I mean, I've been through several end of lives and I can tell you it's Time of your life. I mean I've been through several end of lives and I can tell you it's Not end of lives like people in trauma, but like end of your you know old age death

It's it there's no comparison Do you know what I mean? There's no comparison and if if you decide to go without you decide I'm not gonna get married because I don't want to wait on a man hand and foot like That shit don't even exist anymore. I don't think but you know, whatever the whatever the Whatever the voice in your head from YouTube that you heard is The end will come and it may not be swift it may be long and drawn out and nightmarish and God It may be long and drawn out and nightmarish and God To go through that alone or to go through that with someone who's paid to go through that with you with with

You know prophets in mind Sonnet to by William Shakespeare is a standout for this topic because it talks about age, age and beauty. So many sonnets and so many poetic romantics, right? You know, poetry about the sort of the peak of beauty and all that, right? The peak of romance, the peak of love. One of the reasons I like Dante Gabriel Rosetti so much

is because his true love died when he was young, when they were at their peak. So his poetry is as gushy and all that, as a lot of romantic sonnets can be, but there's also, you run into sonnets from time to time about him staring into a chair that was designed for the love of his life that is empty, you know. But Sonnet 2, you know, I like the number 2, I like Amendment 2, I like Shakespeare's

Sonnet 2. Says when 40 winters shall be siege thy brow and dig deep trenches in thy beauty's field." Right? You're getting old, you're getting wrinkly. Thy youth's proud livery so gazed on... Oh no, I can't read it. Mm. Thy youth's proud livery so gazed on now will be a tattered weed of small worth held. You gotta wrap your head around that, you know what I mean? You're young and you're handsome, young and you're beautiful and everybody, hey, how you

doing and when you doing this weekend and it all comes to an end. Then being asked where all thy beauty lies, where all the treasure of thy lusty days to stay within thine own deep sunken eyes. And he goes on to proclaim that you know Largely when you get old I'll still love you and I'll still be there and If you're not in a committed relationship Things like that don't just happen on their own. You know what I mean? They're not just gonna happen Beef tallow. I don't even know where that fits, but we're gonna put that into the chat

So we get a couple look the reason I wanted to do this articles because we get a bloggers take a Director of research and education on the Council of Contemporary Families We get a fellow at the Manhattan Institute a conservative think tank We get Brad a professor of sociology, God help him, at the University of Virginia, pretty close to me, Brad is. Dedric Williams, a professor, another sociology professor, right? And they start talking about marriage. These people who have studied the topic sort of take on marriage and Stephanie Kuntz

Says marriage used to be the only game in town Which is a really interesting way to look at it in my opinion You could not get access to legal rights without marriage most women could not support themselves outside of marriage Most men could not work a full-time job and get their meals made and their house cleaned and any children they had raised outside of a marriage were not protected. Nancy Cott once made a really interesting analogy. What we saw over the last 100 years is the disestablishment of marriage as an institution the same way we saw the disestablishment of the church in England. Some of the decline in marriage is absolutely inevitable, completely irreversible. I don't know about that. Some, however, is occurring because it's harder and harder to build a marriage,

and many marriages that people can enter don't look like they're going to deliver the goods and solace that we expect. So that is the take of Stephanie Koons, who is the Director of Research and education for the Council on Contemporary Families Marriage a history of how love conquered marriage, okay Then we get to Weiss who's Weiss? Brett no Who's Weiss? Oh Weiss is the interviewer? I'm sorry Weiss is the one doing the interview and Brad Wilson says marriage grounds and guides family life and gives direction and structure and normative guidance to adult couples who are trying to forge an intimate relationship with one another over the

course of their lives. It's not bad, it's clean. It's very clean, it's very robotic, it's very chat bot, right? But I think there's a lot of truth to it. I think there's a lot of truth to it. Kay Heimowitz says, I think you need to keep in mind that marriage is universal. Every society has had marriage bar one, maybe two. There are a number of reasons, but one of them is the rearing of children. The collective human brain has basically come up with this one institution. It doesn't look like the nuclear family everywhere, but there's always some way the family is

defined and becomes part of the script of young people. It's a big one. A series of shorter relationships just isn't as sweet over the long term. Kumiori, the shared life and memories accumulate into a wealth of enduring relationship that is priceless, that travels through hardships and successes, makes the bonds stronger and deeper. like Hamlet. It's like we'd rather bear the ills we have and know than suffer those we don't or whatever he says about dying, about living through trials instead of dying, right? I don't know it by heart, but that's what it reminds me a lot of, right? It's what you

get to a point, man, unless your marriage is hell. And trust me, believe me, not from my own personal experience. Well, not my own marriage, but there are marriages that are a living hell. And I don't understand it. First of all, I don't understand how it gets there. Second of all, I don't understand how people live it. A very important piece of any marriage, see this is the the weird gray line in marriage man, the weird gray line in marriage is a marriage doesn't work with most people a marriage will not work if you say you can do anything to me and I'll forgive you, right? Yes till death do we part is part of the vow but I think that both parties

need to understand that there are there are limits. Like you can't tie me to the bed and cut pieces out of my thigh meat on on every Friday and I'm going to stick around. You know what I mean? And I do think that both parties in marriage have to know that this thing can end. There are limits that it's not a free for all. Right? I think that both parties in marriage have to know that this thing can end. There are limits. It's not a free for all, right? I think that's an important part. And I think it's an important part that people leave out.

And then they wind up in a situation where they're taking, that they're dealing with behaviors from people that are just, you can't even fathom it. I mean, the stories I've heard from people, particularly, and this is just because I talk to more men than women, like about marriage. Um, but the stories that I hear from men about the women, it's like that, or the behaviors that they deal with from their woman are crazy. Like crazy. And the only thing I think of is that the, I don't know, this gets kind of weird, but each of you have to know each other is crazy. You know what I mean? Like there has to be, there just has to be limits to behavior and stuff.

It can't be crazy, right? J Fergan chat says when you're with the right person, you work on it together, you give to one another and you grow and love and heal. Yeah, you have to. That's that's dead on. That is that's it. You work on it together. You both have to want to be in it right you have to It's not a one-sided thing it never will work if you have a person who is Dedicated to the marriage and a person who is Busy doing something else. You know what I mean or not or whatever whatever happens happens Yeah, that's a big one fire wolf porch says what number of dates do you think the thigh cutting should come up?

That's number one. That's day one. Look, you can tie me to the headboard, but there will be no cutting of thigh meat. Okay. That's a good one. What is the sleep token lyric, right? I guess it goes to show does it not? We've no idea what we've got until we lose it. No amount of love will keep it around unless we choose it. That's the

important part of that line. No amount of love will keep it around unless we choose it. That right there is the mechanism of long-term relationship and marriage. In other words, proclaim all the love you want for your significant other. There's still work to be done. That's it. So what else are these people yakking about? I just like to hear individual takes on marriage that aren't like don't get married it's a scam and are and also are not like get married because it's the only way. Wilcox says I think the idea

of embracing family diversity, every family is diverse by the way, what I think Matt is suggesting is a very adult-centered progressive take on things there's just no question that the United States at least there is no comparison to marriage and delivering stability for kids and giving maximal access to their parents attention affection discipline and money Wilcox is right if you got good people you know if you got good people doing again with kids it's the same thing as marriage you got to give the effort you got a cool like I remember like I mean it still happens it still happens I wake up mid-sleep dead to the world and go see what the kids

are doing you know what I mean like because some nights Lady Liberty and I go to bed early and the kids will be up. And you know, they're good about going to sleep and things like that, but it's, it's not about getting up and going and checking on them. It's about getting up and going and saying, Hey, what are you working on? Show me what you're doing. What are you playing? What are you doing? You know what I mean?

What are you watching? And of course there's the element of like dad's around. So, you know, be smart about what you're doing But what's much more important to the relationship with the kids is dads? That there's a person in the world that wants to know what I'm working on thinking doing saying care about you know what I mean and Everything builds out of that everything does Okay Everything builds out of that everything does Okay

We're getting pretty long Into the show. I don't have a really like a super busy day anyway in terms of the written word uh, so I do want to talk about the benefits of marriage What's up mar Marvin Elkins jr. Oh Thanks so much man over there in Lancaster, California. Yeah, so typically Marvin we're a bunch of like Preppers and survivalists and we have 15 hosts here at the prepper broadcasting network

And that's usually what we bang on about here at PBN. But today on Surviving America, I'm just doing a Valentine's Love marriage-centric show. So I appreciate you joining us. If it becomes your cup of tea, we appreciate you hanging around for sure. So I did want to talk about, you hanging around for sure. So I did want to talk about, oh your wife's from Lancaster, how about that? Oh good to hear it Marvin, good to hear it man. Yeah it is the way, there's no doubt about it. Let's put Marvin up on the chat here because it's always good to get a new subscriber anywhere. So I did want to talk about the benefits of Marriage from a health perspective. I don't know yet. You know what? I think I'm gonna go with the Harvard article It's old. It's the only reason I don't want to do it. It's old but it's out of Harvard

You know what? I mean, and it makes me it makes me think like if anybody's gonna fudge the stats against marriage and health It would be an institution probably like Harvard. I don't know if that's true or not, but you know, whatever. It seems that way, right? So as a team, we study how relationships affect health. One of us is a nursing professor who studies social support influences and behaviors. One is a social health psychologist who explores how stress affects couples' relationships and health. We examine how partners influence each other's health." This is one of those unsung things that I don't hear. Because remember, it doesn't make good content to give. What it doesn't make, particularly for YouTube shorts or clickbait is it doesn't make good

content to give the whole story. Right? It's not good. Like a good even I do like short form content now and I show you a product and I go this is the product. Right? And I like if I like it, I tell you the truth. Right? But short form content is like the worst short form content you can make is there are benefits, there are pros and cons to marriage and here's the pros, here's the cons, there's probably some middle ground, it's really good for kids and society and end of life and ba ba ba ba. Like nobody's gonna watch that. They want you to be like marriage sucks and you're gonna lose all your money if you fall for these scoundrel women Did they did they did it? You know what I mean? So you don't see this stuff about health benefits in marriage very often

Let's see what this is this is the conversation marriage could be good for your health unless you are bisexual We're not going there. That's not where we're headed. I could care less of whatever your sexual orientation is, but you know, I'm not reading it. One theory that seeks to explain the link between marriage and health is the act of self-selection. Simply put, people who are wealthier and healthier than average are more likely not only to get married, but also to find a partner who is wealthier and healthier than average. That's interesting. That is interesting, right? The whole idea of marriage is... I've never thought about that until that. Right? If you're dating, if you're like, I want a real pretty girl to take home,

that's pretty short-term thinking, right? But if you're selecting for marriage, that's interesting, right? Now you're looking at things through an entirely different lens. It's like, what's this person going to be in 10 years, 20 years, 30 years? What's their family like? What's their health like? You know what I mean? Many of my wife's best qualities, she exhibited at a very young age,

like 20 years old, 1920 years old, and I just saw them as clear as day and Was like, you know, this is an easy pick Do you know what I mean? Like like the big things were an easy pick so And if I was if I was looking at her for a diff which I was looking at her both ways at the time Right. I was 17. So I wasn't like this all about marriage this right here I was looking at her through both lenses, but looking through the marriage lens was like, oh Pretty good one. It's pretty good one right here might have to be smart

But that's interesting right though The little literal field of selection changes when you're looking through the marriage lens instead of the uh tonight lens Okay, I don't want this high note stuff My partner and I are both I gotta put that up okay for But workers in career in person that's it look But workers in career in person, that's it. Look, look, if the men out there listening, the young men, or if you know a young man and you want to give them the best advice, seriously, like you want to give a man probably top three things to look for in a woman, like hard work, hard work. Yeah, I was like instinctually drawn to it. I don't know why, but was like instinctually drawn to it.

I don't know why, but I was instinctually drawn to it all through my life. I don't know, it could have been because my earliest girlfriend, we worked together and we had a great relationship. Like we literally had the same job, worked together. And I don't know if that did it or if my mother working and being at home all that kind of stuff I'm not sure you know what I mean, I really don't know but what I do know is that now 20 years in 20 plus years in like You don't want a lazy girl It's not gonna work. You're gonna be the guy doing

Everything to keep the relationship going like you need a woman that is fine with hard work Not only that they're way cooler. They're way better. They do you know that they strive for things in their own life They're way more interesting like Whatever things you think are important in a woman If you're a young man or if you're advising a young man, take a step back from all this outer appearance and whatever else benefits you think she brings to the table and say, is she capable of grinding? Because if you have kids and if you get married and you're really trying to build a life, you need someone who's going

to work because it's going to get to the point. Your life will get to the point where you're like every ounce of you is given to something else and you still have a marriage to upkeep. That's when the worker, that's when the workers win. You know, that's what it takes that's what it takes Jayfer yeah you laugh but that's legitimate that's legitimate man Firewolf Forge has his own where to go has his own benefits in a woman good with money good character good birthing hips

Yeah the hips yeah, that's a good one garden girl in here what's up garden girl Welcome in i'd have loved your take on some of this stuff garden girl You may have to just send us some message listen to it and write up some stuff for our element chat for real Um, all right, let's let's go Let's go look at some of these and I'll give you Some of them are from Wikipedia. So it's like Married people may take fewer risks eat better maintain healthier lifestyles on average compared with single people I think that makes sense. I think that makes sense because you're going to get hollered at.

Your insurance costs are going to go up, right? There's evidence that married people tend to keep regular doctor's appointments and follow doctor's recommendations more often than single people. Knowing what we know now about health care, I don't know. Maybe that's good. Maybe it's not. Here's an interesting one that no one, this is from the Harvard article.

Mental health is better when you're married. Married? Yeah, mental health, we got to dig into that. Marriage has mixed effects on health behavior. Spouses help each other maintain healthy habits and provide emotional support in times of need. There's no doubt about that, right? Again, that goes back to like, it's really good to have someone around who cares about your problems, you know? Like really, think about it, you know? There are problems that crop up in life and people are gonna tell you, oh god, you know what everybody always says and I'm guilty of it too like anything you need I'll help you right something along those lines okay I need you to move in with me and take care of my dad who's dying right like them things right there are limits people won't even ask for that kind of help but if

you have a spouse and it's kind of, again, let's get back to work. Let's get back to work, honey. Mental health is better when you're married. Poor social supports, as might be more likely for those who are single, have been strongly linked to higher rates of depression, loneliness, and social isolation. Yeah, I guess when you have a man in your house, this is how I always feel about my wife because I'm here a lot. You know what I mean?

I'm here. Like, she comes comes home I'm here. Right? You know what I mean? It's not like that triumphant arrival of dad from a long day's work. But I always think about that like from a loneliness and social isolation perspective. If you have a person in your life that you want the hell out of your life for an hour. That's probably pretty good. That's a hell of a lot better than having nobody, right? I always think about that with my wife. Sometimes I'll be like just I'm leaving for a few hours and I like her eyes will light up. Oh, okay. Because she's too nice and wonderful to be like you can you get the hell out of the house for a little bit?

You're driving me nuts. I just want to be here with the kids and not have you thumping around, smelling, making the whole house stink of coffee and war hammer glue. How fun. You know what I mean? How fun. So yeah, health benefits as well. So I'm getting really hungry. I'm going to read you a little Nuptial Sleep because I have to do it. There's been no Valentine's Day show that I've ever done where I didn't read Dante Gabriel Rosetti. He is my favorite poet of all.

He is Edgar Allan Poe meets William Shakespeare. And I don't know, nuptial sleep is a good one in the context of marriage. If you're a man who has been married and who loves your wife, you've been here a million times hopefully, hopefully you sidle up to your bride in bed and see her this way. But this is just a clip from Nuptial Sleep. The only problem with this great anthology is that they take his sonnets and they don't write them all. They only write sections of them. This is a great section. The book that I have, you can't see it, but it's hanging on the

wall back there. Victorian poetry has them all at length from the House of Life. If you want to get into Dante Gabriel Rosetti's romantic side, which is the biggest side really, then read the House of Life's collection of son. It's unbelievable. Okay. Unbelievable. And he was a painter too on top of it phenomenal like the reason modern art hits like You know like a pile of shit is because Tip for me is because I grew up looking at Dante Gabriel Rosetti and early like American artists who? You know, they just they painted really well, you know what I mean? Like they painted things really well. It wasn't lines and splotches and cats painting and piss in a jar

with a flower in it or something. I don't know what they do. Nuptial sleep. Sonnet six Dante Gay Rosetti, the House of Life. Sleep sank them lower than the tide of dreams, and their dreams watched them sink and slid away. Slowly, their souls swam up again through gleams of watered light and dull drowned waves of day, till from some wonder of new woods and streams he woke and wondered more, for there she lay. Yeah, if you're a man you know that. You know that all too well. You're waking up in the morning hours and I've got, don't get

me started on that, but it's been a fun show guys. You know, it's been a fun show. I don't know what all the takeaway is of it. I thank the chat you guys were instrumental today, right? Instrumental today one last piece of advice from fire wolf Forge doesn't car insurance go down if you're married That's all the reason you need Nowadays it might be I don't know It goes down if you can drive Sometimes our car insurance does one of these numbers because I'm not a very good driver. But anyway

Or I'm a very distract. I'm very distracted driver. Let's go with that So I hope you took a lot away from the show enjoyed it Dig into some Dante Gabriel Rosetti Fall in love with this life of yours, right? Because you will be dead soon Hmm time waits for no man The wedded what did I call it? I don't remember Yeah

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tidal wave of preparedness. Okay in all forms We've got a lot of great guests coming up in the near future. I will be reaching out to members for questions The 24th of this month we're gonna have a guy on Richard Anderson and we're gonna be talking about survival on Mars and I have a feeling it's gonna be an unbelievable show and Monday we're gonna be talking about calm within chaos right with Giovanna Silvestri we're gonna talk about be talking in particular about yoga and and you know the benefits therein I've been doing it for years if nothing else it's kept me from severe

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I'm out of here folks. I do appreciate you. I'm gonna go don't tell anybody. I'm gonna go eat eggs for breakfast I'm gonna go, don't tell anybody, I'm gonna go eat eggs for breakfast. I'm gonna blow like about $1,500 on an egg breakfast. Jay Ferg has got an investment in eggs as well over there. I'm gonna run out to the coop and pull about 20k out of the coop for breakfast. Jalapenos, what else? What else do I have? I don't know. I'll talk to you guys soon. I do appreciate you and

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