The Prepper Broadcasting Network - TGA-2024 Stay Behind Operations: what/how?
Episode Date: March 21, 2024...
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Welcome to the Gun Metal Armory. Here's your host, Dane D.
Well, hello there everybody. This is Dane from the sometimes absent Gun Metal Armory.
How's everybody doing out there? I hope everybody's doing A-OK.
It's been a little while. It's been a little while. We've been getting the homestead
ready for the spring. We've had a lot to do, a lot of things to fix, a lot of things to
put back together, a lot of just a lot to do. If you have a place that you live and you have work
that you have to do on it constantly, if you own your home, you know almost exactly what I'm referring to.
That being said, I didn't want you guys to think I had gone away completely.
So I decided to touch base with you guys
and maybe talk a little bit about stay-behind operations.
Okay?
I will also be attempting to make it onto Sarah's show this weekend on Sunday
for her, the Changing Earth series. We're going to talk about team formations and team movement.
So it's going to be good. You know, it can be fun. You know, I plan to be there. I plan to
make it there. So hopefully it works out exactly the way it's supposed to. But yeah, we do have a storm that is expected to be in our area on Sunday. So hopefully it doesn't affect anything as far as the internet and all that stuff go.
If it does, though, we'll see if we can work around it.
So just to let you guys know, I'll probably be on there.
There is a likelihood that me and the wife will do a podcast this weekend as well.
We'll see.
Yeah, so that's that.
I don't know if you all have been kind of paying attention to the news lately and
what's going on in the world, but, uh, yeah, it's, it's still a crap show just in case
you're wondering, you're like, oh, has it gotten better date?
No, no, it's gotten much, much worse.
But you know, it depends on your definition of worse.
I guess some people out there might think
it's better. I, on the other hand, do not, but that's just me. Anyways, um, the last couple of
times I've come on and talked to you guys, we've talked about how many, um, how many enemy
combatants could potentially be in the United States at this point. Um, I don't know if you
guys have ever seen Joe Rogan.
I'm not like a huge Joe Rogan fan or anything.
I've seen a few clips of his show, but he had a, I forget who he had on there.
It was somebody who was a famous, you know, someone who operated, I don't know,
SEAL or Greenberry or something like that.
Someone who understands the way that, you know, combat and warfare is fought.
And this guy told Joe Rogan that all it would take to bring America to its knees
or any town in America to its knees would be 10 highly trained guys.
10 guys. That's all it takes to bring any, or a city, right?
That's what he said.
To bring any city to its knees.
10 highly trained guys, okay?
And you don't even have to be that highly trained.
That's the scary part, okay?
If you know what it takes to shut down a city.
10 is really all you need.
That's the scariest freaking thing to think about.
The problem is I don't think anybody that's in charge is taking it seriously enough.
I really don't.
taking it seriously enough. I really don't because how, how do you not know or not realize what's going on out there right now? You know, anyways, I'm not going to get into it because
yeah, I'll go down a rabbit hole and you know, there's no point right now. I want to get into
the, um, the reason I'm doing this show. So I titled the show
Stay Behind Operations What Slash How. Okay, so what is a stay behind operation? How are they
conducted? What exactly is the point of it? You know, so on and so forth, right? It's good to
know all these things. It's good to kind of have an idea of what we're looking at
okay when it comes to stay behind operations one of the biggest things that you might run into
is history on stay behind operations from world war ii i don't know if you guys know anything
about this stuff but there were plans uh by plans by Great Britain and pretty much every other country for stay-behind operations.
Germany also had stay-behind operations plans.
They had specific soldiers they were going to use
i believe they called them werewolves you know a german word for werewolf you know who
um anyways that was their thing uh great britain had the civil guard that they were going to uh
leave behind to kick butt and wreak havoc on the Germans
when they finally invaded Great Britain, which never happened.
But, you know, that was their plan.
They had the Civil Guard, and those guys were highly trained,
you know, really knew what they were doing.
There was also, even back in history, there was other options like this.
And then there was various campaigns that military leaders would undertake.
I'm sure everyone out there has heard of the scorched earth tactics, right?
Everybody knows what scorched earth is, right?
Salt the earth, meaning don't make it usable again okay now there is uh something to be said
for you know making it to where um various different places are still usable or not usable
okay that is kind of a discussion for another, whether you're going to make a place completely unusable or not.
But it does behoove us to understand what stay-behind operations are and how those work.
If for no other reason than to understand just the doctrine itself.
Okay, so what is a stay-behind operation?
I mean, I kind of gave you a basic description of it,
but in a basic format,
the military format of it, right?
Stay-behind operations can,
they can be used as a part of a defensive operation
or a retrograde operation okay
they say that in these operations the commander leaves a unit in their position to conduct a
specified mission while the remainder of the force withdraws uh you guys remember dunkirk
you know uh there was stay behind there were there was a specific
group of people set or soldiers set to stay behind and cover the withdrawal okay um
you they'll they'll you know it depends on what they're set there to do um But stay behind is very risky. According to military doctrine, it's a very risky operation.
Resupply and casualty evacuation are difficult and sometimes impossible. Okay. So you, you have
to know, you know, some people, oh, it's a suicide mission, you know, well, maybe, maybe it is,
you know, just something to keep in mind there you know it can be very very
difficult um and then conducting stay behind operation places a premium on infantry leadership
and initiative they say ultimately it terminates when the unit conducts a link up with attacking
friendly forces or re-enters friendly lines so what does that mean that means that the stay
behind operation uh ultimately is kind of relieved or uh rescued if you will when the enemy pushes
or the uh friendly forces push far enough up to link up with the stay behind force okay
to link up with the stay behind force. Okay. Very, very crazy stuff guys. So look at Dunkirk and what happened there during the, uh, that world war two period of time. Okay. Um, there's
many, many different kind of, um, examples of how all this stuff worked. There were multiple examples of stay-behind operations
that happened during the Cold War.
You know, we get out of Germany,
or we get out of what?
Yeah, we get out of Germany, technically.
Of course, there's East and West Germany.
So, you know, spy versus spy kicks on,
and you got the whole thing going on after that, right?
versus spy kicks on and you got the whole thing going on after that right cold war kgb tru freaking you know cia all that crazy spy stuff that those dudes do and all this crazy innovation
and you know got some interesting stuff that happens okay there are, according to military doctrine, there are generally going to be two types
of stay behind operations. One is going to be deliberate and one is going to be unplanned.
Personally, I don't want to be part of the unplanned one. Like, oh, we left Dane behind.
Crap. You know, well now he's on the stay behind operation. Good luck, Dane, right? That's not really where I want to be, okay?
That's not really my choice there.
Okay, so an unplanned stay-behind operation would be one where a unit finds itself cut off from other friendly elements, okay?
Now, the timing of that can be indefinite.
There's no set time frame, and there's no set time frame that they may be cut off.
In that kind of operation, the unit has no specific planning or targets.
And most of the time they're going to have to rely on the assets that they have with them.
Again, resupply, capture the evac, all that stuff, it becomes exponentially more difficult
when you're doing that kind of a stay-behind operation, or you're kind of,
I don't want to say forced into it, but basically that's exactly what it is. You're kind of forced
into it because of the environment that you're in.
Okay.
So there's the other part where the other type, which I told you guys about, and that is the deliberate stay behind operation.
Now that is more like the one I was telling you about earlier.
That's more like the civil guard or the, you know, German werewolves and things like that.
Okay.
That's a whole different can of worms there.
Whole different can of worms,
whole different,
um,
type of warfare.
If you will,
well,
similar types of warfare,
but different can of worms.
Okay.
So, uh,-behind operations.
Military doctrine says that those are one in which a unit plans to operate in an enemy-controlled area
as a separate yet cohesive element for a certain amount of time or until a specified event occurs.
A good example of that, if you want to read about it, might be the French Marquis.
French Resistance during World War II.
Those guys were set up to operate for a specific time and they were to continue to operate until specific
specific events occurred so what was the specific event allied forces liberate france right so
specific events occurring okay a deliberate stay-behind operation requires extensive planning. They
need squads, sections, and platoons. They would generally conduct that type of operation
as a part of a larger unit. Now, that's not to say that a partisan force, like the French Maquis, right, French resistance, couldn't
do that.
That's not to say that the Norwegian resistance couldn't do that during those time frames.
And I'd be willing to bet that during the Cold War, and, you know, even now, I'd be
willing to bet that there are stay behind operations that
go but go on constantly okay even here in the u.s if they get to the point where they're deporting
people that are dangerous and things like that you don't think that there's going to be people left
that are still very very dangerous there will be guarantee it and then when all the crap pops off
people are gonna start pointing fingers it's gonna be uh interesting i guess maybe might be
the right word but all right so next thing planning right you've got what troop-led procedures
so troop-led procedures apply to stay behind operations. They say the planners need to pay strict attention to task organization, reconnaissance, and sustainment.
What tasks are your guys going to be organized to accomplish?
All right.
Whoops, sorry.
Turning, moving something here.
Task organization.
Okay, the next thing will be sustainment.
Sustainment is extremely important, okay?
And, of course, reconnaissance, recon, understanding the environment you're in,
understanding what's around you, understanding what the threats are understanding what the threats are what the advantages are what your resources are
so on and so forth and then like i was saying before sustainment okay during world war ii
there was a a norwegian uh special forces i don't know whatever you want to call them team that was uh
operating in norway right norwegian and while the germ uh germany had occupied uh norway and
the uh they had gone over and blew up a whole bunch of the heavy water plant that was making the heavy water that Hitler's guys needed to make the atomic bomb.
They had hit that heavy water plant in, I think it was Skalsberg or something.
I can't remember the name of the place.
In Norway there.
They were making the heavy water and it was a heavy water plant.
in Norway there, okay, they were making the heavy water, it was a heavy water plant,
and these guys retreated, the Norwegian team retreated into the Norwegian wilderness, which was mountainous and very wood, very woodsy, you know, foresty, right, but it was snowing at
that time, it's very, very cold, wintertime, okay? Now, let's think about that
for a second. You got those guys that just did that operation, and they need to be thinking about
task organization, reconnaissance, and sustainment. One of the problems they had was sustainment.
They did pretty decent recon. They knew what was was around them they knew where they were going they knew what equipment they needed to get there they had skis and they had
the uh cold weather gear they needed for the most part okay task organization they knew what each
man needed to do and could do but their problem came in when they couldn't get any kind of resupply because of the weather.
And they didn't have any options for sustainment.
However, after a certain period of time with no food, or very minimal food,
I think they were melting snow in their little stove oven thingamajigger they had
there in the cabin that they found. And I think they were using pine needles or something to
get some kind of nourishment. Eventually, one of them shot, I believe it was a reindeer,
and they were able to eat. Okay. But keep in mind those three things are absolutely paramount.
Okay?
Next thing, task organization.
We're going to dive into it.
Each one.
Okay?
Task organization.
A stay-behind unit includes only soldiers and equipment needed for the mission.
It provides its own logistics, support, and security.
It must be able to hide easily and move through
restrictive terrain it must be able to hide easily and move through restrictive terrain
that to me says you need a small group right next thing recon recon is the most important
in stay behind operations Reporting tasks and information requirements can include
suitable sites for patrol bases, hide positions, observe observation posts,
caches, water sources, dismounted and mounted avenues of approach,
kill zones, engagement areas, and covered and concealed approach routes.
This unit may be required to collect intelligence on enemy
forces around them exactly what i was just explaining to you guys from world war ii right
understanding the threats around you understanding who moves in and out of where um some additional
information there right knowing your avenues of approach knowing your egress and ingress, right?
All these things matter.
Next thing I talk about is logistics, right?
Because the stay-behind unit will not be in physical contact with a supporting unit,
supplies, rations, ammo, radio batteries, water, and medical supplies all have to be cached.
Or if you want to go the other way, cached.
They've got to be cached or if you want to go the other way cashed they got to be cashed okay provisions
for casualty and epw evacuation depend on company and battalion plans right all of that stuff
matters guys you need to understand and have a plan in place for all of it. And finally, retirement.
Retirement is a form of retrograde in which a force is not in contact with the enemy, moves away from the enemy, and so on.
Retiring units organize to fight but do so only in self-defense.
Retirements are usually not as risky as delays or withdrawals.
Retiring units normally road march away from the enemy.
Infantry platoons participate in retirements as a part of their company and higher headquarters.
Okay?
So, stay behind operations, guys.
This is important stuff if you can try to acquire uh various different uh information on
how militaries around the world operate acquire as much information as you can learn that information
really commit it to heart and really start to understand what uh what a good guy might be up against
and what a bad guy might be able to understand to do to that good guy all right i hope all this
stuff made sense to you guys it's just kind of something that's been uh kind of on my on my mind
lately so if you guys have any questions feel free to to hit me up, ask me, gunmetalarmory at gmail.com.
And next week or the next time I talk to you guys, I think we're going to talk about, what was it?
Less than lethal ammunition.
L-T-L, less than lethal. We're going to talk about less than lethal ammunition. L-T-L. Less than lethal.
We're going to talk about
less than lethal ammunition
and what
or if
that stuff is even useful
for anything.
Okay?
So, I hope each and every one of you
have a wonderful rest of your day.
Take care.
God bless.
And again, if you need me,
you're more than welcome to email me.
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