The Prepper Broadcasting Network - The GGO Bugout OMNIBUS

Episode Date: January 17, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good day, PBN family. It's James Walt, the intrepid commander of the Prepper Broadcasting Network. What you're about to hear is unlike anything you've ever heard before. It is a one-of-a-kind collection of podcasts and, a little more, all wrapped up into one big omnibus on the topic of the bug out. Now, what's going to make this content stand out so much is that, As you listen to the shows, you will also be simultaneously dipped into the world of a bugout exercise, one that we conducted a few years ago called Gotham Get Out.
Starting point is 00:00:44 So as the show goes on, you'll be introduced to Gotham Get Out and the rules set and the experiences of myself, the Ben the Breaker of the Banksters, and Future Dan and Dave Jones, the NBC guy as the Well, really is the judge jury and executioner of the whole Gotham get-out exercise. You're going to hear incredible shows today, folks. You're going to hear from Colin and Ryan Buford on how to build a bugout vehicle from scratch. You're going to hear from Dave Jones, the NBC guy, from prepping up with the Joneses on traveling to a supply point. You're going to hear from me on micro-bugouts for family security.
Starting point is 00:01:30 in a collapse, which is actually a piece of member content that I pulled out of the archive for all to enjoy today. You're going to hear from Dane D. And many others, throughout the show, you're going to be taken from informational podcast and informational entertainment podcast and dipped back into the world of Gotham Get Out. As you follow myself, the Bankster Breaker and Future Do You, Dan on our journey overnight to essentially bug out to the woods and find caches along the way and so on and so forth. So enjoy this bugout omnibus, starting with Dave Jones, the NBC guy
Starting point is 00:02:13 explaining the rules of Gotham Get Out. Urban Survival Simulation. This is Gotham Get Out. Hey, welcome back to Gotham Get Out. This is the NBC Guy. the observer controller. Yes, I will be judging these people on their prepper and survival skills. Okay. I have, we have the boxes packed. They are in the car.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Now, everybody has at least two ways to make fire, okay? whether they recognize them or not, that is the question. At least two ways. Most of them will have three ways to make fire. And so this is going to be done in three phases. The first phase is at the thrift shop. Their purchases for $25, whatever they need, whatever they can get for $25. and I'm going to evaluate them on that.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Then the next phase is after they picked up the boxes and after they spent the night in the woods, okay? I am going to come to their location, and I'm going to evaluate their campsite. I'm chuckling because I'm pretty sure. it's going to be wow. So what they have, each one has some kind of a bag to carry things in. Each one has some way to boil water.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Each one has a light life straw. Each one has a life straw. Okay, so they can get water. But if they can get snow and boil it, you know, There you go. Maria put some food and snacks in there. I was not thinking food and snacks. I wanted them to catch field mice and eat them.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I mean, if they were that hungry. Then the third phase, because there's three phases to this, they come back to the Jones homestead, and I put them on a team task. this team task will challenge them in their leadership capabilities, their abilities to assign tasks properly, and to get things done together. So there's three phases to this.
Starting point is 00:05:26 And you're going to hear it all right here on PBN. So all I can say is, I'm going to go tomorrow to the location. I'm going to evaluate them on their purchases at the thrift store. We have three thrift stores identified. Okay, we're going to go to each one. They're going to have a time limit in each one. We're going to draw straws to see who goes in first.
Starting point is 00:05:58 And then that's what they're going to have for the rest of the night. plus whatever's in the cash boxes. Now, the cash boxes truly have some junk in them. And they're going to have to determine whether this is junk or whether I should take it with me. So there you go, PBN family. Now, this is Gotham Get Out. We are the Prepper Broadcasting Network.
Starting point is 00:06:33 What is up, PBN members? Time for a podcast. Time for a, it's not a cubicle escape. It's not a bushcraft for Preppers podcast. It's just time for a podcast. Reason being, it's been a while since I've talked Bugout with you. Now, a new section that I need to add to the members outpost. And if you're unfamiliar, if you haven't heard of you talking about the members outpost,
Starting point is 00:07:00 It's a new location on the navigation bar at prepperbroadcasting.com that takes you to basically the index of the member's side of things, the index. Right. So rather than just having to scroll through 30 pages of content and find the prepper fit and health that you want to watch, it's indexed. All the prepper fit and health in one place, all the bushcraft of preppers in one place, all the blacksmithing videos in one place, you know, so on and so forth. And now that I press record on this, I realize that I have an eight-hour-long bugout examination, training, whatever you want to call it. It's massive.
Starting point is 00:07:49 It's a massive eight podcast. Each podcast is an hour-long exploration of the bugout from start to finish. because I feel like most people don't give the bug out it's due in terms of what it takes to really pull something like that off. I feel like the vast majority of preppers and prepper websites and YouTubers give they don't give enough to the bug out, right?
Starting point is 00:08:18 They say things like it's time to bug out. That's when you should bug out. You should bug out when this happens. You should have this in your bug out bag. Your bug out bag should be this kind of bag. And, you know, all those concepts have their place in a real bugout plan. But the matter, the fact of the matter is PBM family, the bugout is, and it should be looked at in no other way.
Starting point is 00:08:45 But for most people, the bug out is going to be one of the greatest undertakings, period. financially, physically, planning, mentally. I mean, it is the most underestimated aspect of prepping period, the bugout. If you look at it at face value, if you take it at face value, right, and you say to yourself, what do you mean? I'm going to throw my bag on. I'm going to go from point A to point B. And when I get there, I'm going to survive there with all my survival skills and the things
Starting point is 00:09:19 that I have in my backpack. You are You are scratching the surface You are living a sort of A philosophical bug out existence Right You haven't thought it through
Starting point is 00:09:36 In short And that's very dangerous The moment you leave your home Everything gets dangerous Right If you decide to leave your home behind So much has had to go wrong Because your home is your number one
Starting point is 00:09:51 Survival Shelter Right? It's your survival headquarters. It's your home base. So I just want to talk to you guys about the bugout and about some really big points, problems, whatever, that all have to do with bugging out. Because it's been a while, you know, it's been a while since I talked bug out. And listen, we're in an economic collapse. You know, this is what we're living through right now. Civil unrest is coming. It's, you know, in the inner cities, it's been going on. shortages are coming and worse than the shortages i think are going to be the sheer amounts of people
Starting point is 00:10:28 who just don't have the money to get the things they need you know we'll see we'll see robberies and burglaries and and and scams and all that kind of stuff just continue to skyrocket continue to take a more solid place in our society that's what's coming pbn family that that that That's what you're going to live through. Like it or not. So the bug out might sound very alluring, right? It might sound like, well, if things get bad enough, we'll just bug out. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:59 We'll go. What's the first thing you should think about? What's the first thing you should do? See, the prepping world puts a magnification upon the bugout bag. And then the contents of the bug out bag, right? So it's all about the bag and it's all about what goes in the bag. And you're going to live out of that. bag, right? That's going to be the deal. That bag, you should be able to live out of that bag.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Well, have you ever lived out of a bag? First and foremost, have you ever lived out of a bag? Have you ever lived out of a backpack for any period of time? Three days. Three days. Pack a bag, go into the woods, three days, live out of it. Just a backpack. You're going to learn a lot. You're going to learn a lot. You're going to come home and the first thing you're going to say is, I ain't living out of a bag. That's a bad plan, first of all. So I think we all can agree on the fact that we're, you know, and if you don't believe me, just give it a try. It takes a certain kind of person. It takes a very special kind of person to want to live out of a backpack, period. And of course, you also have to live out of a backpack that you can carry everywhere you go.
Starting point is 00:12:17 You know, so you liken it to almost like an Appalachian Trail style existence, except remember they go to build shelters. Oh yeah. You might not know that about the Appalachian Trail hikers, but they go to shelters that are pre-built along the way, a lot of them. Now they're prepared to sleep out in the woods, if need be, but those shelters make a difference, and some Appalachian Trail hikers even go to hotels on the weekends. Now, PBN family, packing a bug out back.
Starting point is 00:12:45 So can we at least start with the fact that you need a predetermined position first, right? No matter what else happens, No matter what you think about the bug out, you got to at least know where you're going. That has to be step number one. No matter what bag 511 makes, no matter what bag verdicts makes, or whatever company you like, Maxpedition, no matter how nice the bag looks, no matter how much it looks like the perfect bugout bag. If you're really, if you're really going to have a bug out plan,
Starting point is 00:13:26 you must understand that the first step is where are my, where am I going? Where are we going? To pack a bag before you know where you're going is as foolish as packing a bag for a, well, it's more foolish, but it's, it would be like packing a bag for a vacation you hadn't booked yet. Right? In other words, Honey, in June, let's go on vacation. Okay. Pack your bags.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Pack them now, because we're going on vacation in June. I'm going to make something happen. Okay, great. Sounds good. Where are we going? What should I pack? I have no clue, but pack your bags now because we're going. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Are we going to the coast? Should I pack a swimsuit? Are we going to the mountains? Should I pack some hiking boots? What should I do here? I don't know, honey. Pack your bags. Pack your bags because we're going on vacation in June. That's the same concept, right? Pack a bug out bag. What do you mean pack a bug out bag? Where are we going? What do I need? What's the mission? To pack a bug out bag before you know where you're going, you already have your foot in your mouth. Right? You already have your foot in your mouth. You're already walking three steps backwards. Because how do you know what to pack? How do you know what you need in that bag? How do you know?
Starting point is 00:14:53 The answer is you don't know and you can't know. So most people, conditioned by the internet and internet preppers, start off on the wrong foot already. Because they buy an expensive bag and they fill it with gear. And they have no idea where they're taking that bag, where they're going to go and what they're going to face when they get there. So there's no way you can be efficient with the gear that you're carrying. There's no way you can be efficient with the things that you have in your backpack
Starting point is 00:15:19 because you don't know where you're going to begin with. And that's the scenario that many preppers find themselves in. So when it comes to bug out, you know, right off the bat, these are the things that you have to consider. Right off the bat, these are the issues that people run into. They pack a bug out, bag up, and hang it on a fence, I mean on a hook, rather in the room, in the house, whatever, in the closet. And in their fantasy world, they're going to bug out, man. You know what I mean? In their head, we're going to grab that bag and we're going to head for the woods.
Starting point is 00:15:55 And if you haven't lived in the woods, if you haven't lived in the woods with your family, if you haven't spent at least a week in the woods with your family, then you don't know anything about bugging out to the woods. You have no idea what challenges you're going to face. I'll just tell you right off the bat. If you think that you're going to climb into a tent with four people, two people and a dog, three people, whatever, in August and sleep good at night,
Starting point is 00:16:26 it's not happening. You know, to camp in the middle of summer, particularly in the South, is awful. I mean, it really is. It just is awful. Kind of sucks. So we find ourselves in this situation where we're thinking we're going to show up
Starting point is 00:16:44 and it's going to be a beautiful night. Same could be said about winter, right? If you're taking a regular old tent out into the woods to survive and it's January. you're in for a rude awakening, you know? So you got to have a place to go. If you don't have a place to go, forget about the bugout altogether.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Or exist in a short-term bug-out mentality. Right? In other words, we've got to get away ASAP. And really a short-term bug-out mentality becomes an evacuation. That's why I always say, just start with an evacuation plan. Start with a hotel or a family member's house. you know, 50 or so miles away, 30 miles away, whatever, from where you live, and hammer that down first.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Before you worry about, I'm going to build, erect, purchase, whatever, an alternate location for my family where we're going to go. We're just getting started. We're not going to cover everything, but this is kind of sort of, this could be like an intro to that big, big bugout podcast breakdown that you could listen to. I'll make sure I get that in the index, the members outpost up at prepperbroadcasting.com. Now, the other, the interesting thing about said location, right, let's say you hammer down a location, doesn't matter what it is, right?
Starting point is 00:18:14 You can pre-position, I'll tell you what, if you really wanted to be minimalist, you could pre-position a thick-walled canvas tent, a nice big one, you know, cost a lot of money, a couple grand probably, with a wood stove, a table. attachment, right? So the ability to run a wood stove out of it. And you could have some seriously austere living going on there, right? If you had cots and maybe tarps or a tarp large enough to lay across the floor, you could have a pretty austere but doable living environment that at least would be somewhat climate controlled, assuming you have what it takes to keep that stove fed. And I would highly recommend that if that's your plan and you're pre-positioning this canvas
Starting point is 00:19:04 tent or traveling this canvas tent, then where you plan to set it up, there should already be some wood split, right? Don't get to a location after a disaster and say, oh, now I have to go about the business of splitting wood for the next day and a half. Maybe cutting down trees, breaking trees down into pieces of wood to be split. Not a good plan. So, No matter what the location is, no matter what location you've established, you could be of the most beautiful little cabin on the side of a cliff somewhere, which is nice. I mean, I'm not here to grade your choice of bugout location.
Starting point is 00:19:49 It doesn't matter to me, what you decide upon or what you can afford or what you just, you know, figure out. You need prepositioned resources at that location, or else all you're doing is running to, a roof. That's what you're doing. You're running to a roof. You're leaving one roof and lots of resources behind to run to another roof and just a roof, right? Do you have running water? If you don't have running water, then you have to have water there. You can't carry water on a bug out. You know, you can't carry substantial water, I mean. Yeah, you can carry some water. But in about two days,
Starting point is 00:20:28 anything that you've carried is likely going to be gone unless you have a truck and you could carry a 55-gallon rain barrel in that truck along with. with whatever else you need to carry for your bug out. So you got to carry, you can only carry so much. You need pre-positioned food. You need pre-positioned water. Probably pre-position medical. Probably pre-positioned firearms and arsenal, right?
Starting point is 00:20:53 Ammunition. You can't, if you have a family of four with two small kids, who's carrying all your guns? Who's carrying all your ammunition? You know, who's carrying the 12-gauge block? of the blocks of 12-gauge ammunition and who's carrying the, all the 5-5-6, who's carrying it? It's a lot of weight. So if you're going to go to a bugout location, you've got to have prepositioned stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Right? Got to have it. It's another one of those kind of unavoidables. See, the pitfalls that you make in the bug out really can set you up for just disaster if you're not careful. They really can. They can set you up for complete and total disaster. You can find yourself in a situation where you left one bad situation, and the only thing you got is in another bad situation. You know, you do not want to be the guy who strolls into a bugout location
Starting point is 00:22:07 and has to immediately start hunting and fishing and trapping for dinner tomorrow. That's not the position you want to be in. So the prepositioning of food and caches and that type of stuff vital. Or at least the filling of that bugout location and the protection of it, right? Now, I think the final thing I want to talk about on this little podcast of ours today is what you do when you happen upon that bugout location. We've lived through some pretty hairy stuff. Right now, we're living through a very hairy time. Things are different.
Starting point is 00:22:53 people are different people are changing you see everyone's changing doesn't matter if they're becoming a prep or not everyone is changing their outlook on the world is changing they look at things differently they see things much differently they're saying to themselves the world is changing and i have to change to survive it if you truly find yourself in a position where you are leaving your survival headquarters you know this property this home of of yours that you've invested all your time, money, and effort into for your life. Things have gotten pretty bad where you're at, you know? And to combat that, you're going to go to a different location.
Starting point is 00:23:41 And that location should have resources at it, so we'll assume that it does. And even though you might think that that location is remote and in an incredibly remote area, you have to be aware that there might be a chance that people already know about it. There might be a chance that people are already at that location. And if people are already at that location, you want to know that before you open the front door. You want to know that probably before you pull your vehicle on the property, right? So you've got to case your own bugout location when you arrive. You have to case the bug out location.
Starting point is 00:24:25 You have to do recon on your own property long before you arrive. so that your family is safe. You get that, right? In other words, you've got to be able to say, all right, we're going to park the car a couple miles away from the bugout location, and then what we're going to do is we're going to make our way up there,
Starting point is 00:24:52 maybe at about 3, 4 o'clock in the morning. We're going to set up some 100 yards or so off of the bugout location, and we're going to put, you know, whatever you got. optics, rifle scope, binoculars, infrared, whatever you got. You're going to put on that bugout location and you guys are going to watch it. And you're going to watch it for a while. You're going to watch it as the day goes on. You're going to watch it till lunchtime.
Starting point is 00:25:17 You're going to watch it and watch it and see what the hell's going on. People there? Is there movement there? Are people going in and out? Is there a dead person there? Is there someone inside? Is there traffic? Maybe nothing is happening.
Starting point is 00:25:31 maybe nobody's there and nothing is changing at all. In which case, wonderful. But you better make sure. You better not drive right up to the front door, hop out of your car with your bag on, kick open that front door and say, baby, we made it. Because there could be somebody casing it already.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Or there could be somebody inside of it already. And I think that's about all I want to cover on this episode about the bug out. If you like it, if you enjoyed it, I can do more. But I truly have done much more. And I think I will figure out a way to collect all this podcast and the other bugout podcasts under one indexable category. And you guys can feel free to listen to it at your leisure.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Because it's a ton of information. Like I said, it's about eight hour long podcasts. So, yeah, I hope you enjoyed this. I wanted to just talk to talk to the members for a little bit, you know, about an issue that, a prepping issue that is in my head right now. And that's what this is, this bug out situation. So I thank you for your time. I thank you for you support guys. You have no idea.
Starting point is 00:26:56 You have no idea, first off, what kind of an amazing life I'm able to lead because of you. You know, I'm not in a private jet. I'm not, right? I'm not living that kind of life. and that's not what I mean when I say living the kind of life that I live. I mean, I'm a writer and a podcaster and nothing else. You know what I mean? It's not something I do in my spare time.
Starting point is 00:27:25 It's not something I do on the way. It's not my side hustle. You guys have given me the ability to be a podcaster and a writer. And that's what I do. And it's magic. And the reason I say it, thank you all the time. time for it is because I also have to remind myself, hey, don't take this shit for granted, man. Do not take this for granted, you know? You've been doing this for years now, and there's a lot of
Starting point is 00:27:50 people in this world that want to be doing what you're doing. Do not take it for granted. And make sure you thank those members for their support because you guys make it possible. Okay. I want to thank you for funding the Prepper Broadcasting Network, too, which is what your membership does in large part. You know, in large part, it takes a lot of money to. It takes a lot of money run this thing now that we've reached a level that we're at and uh it not necessarily a lot of money but way more money than i could afford and you guys make it possible for us to have this this archive that is massive and exists forever and and this archive that is tailored to the struggles of the american people in this time you've created something very special that everybody gets to
Starting point is 00:28:38 take advantage of through your members You know, as people get more and more scared, they're going to find the prepper broadcasting network. They're going to get incredible answers and solutions, and they're going to build their own sort of survival game plan. And that's impressive, you know. So, thank you, so. We'll talk soon. This is Gotham Get Out. This is Gotham Get Out. This is Banksyrater here with Intrepid Commander and Future Dan.
Starting point is 00:29:18 We are in the thrift shop. We've completed our $25 allocation of purchases for gear for tonight. How'd you do, Thanksgiving? I did pretty much exactly what I was looking for. I got two long-sleeved shirts. A third was a hoodie. And then I got kind of a wool hat. So four pieces of clothing and one kind of like shoulder bag or like messenger, satchel.
Starting point is 00:29:43 I don't know. But something that I can carry some things in. So I came in right at like $23.80 or something. So just in budget. Did you, standing here now, we're complete. You got what you got and you're not getting more. Yeah. Do you sense any vulnerabilities?
Starting point is 00:30:01 Any gaps in your outerware? Given the conditions we're going to face snow. If it was going to rain, snow, or be very, very windy, I would be a little concerned that I don't have a windbreaker, you know, waterproof because my jack. buckets are kind of, you know, they would get soaked and freezing quick if it was rained. So, but I'll have that. And so I think I'm going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Right, right. So I came in $4 and four minutes under budget. But then I watched the Intrepid Commander go and find the candles and the cookware, which I could have afforded with my leftover cash. So he and I got backpacks. We got the two shoulder strapped backpacks. And I'm happy with the outer. wear that I got in the extra layer and I did find a hat, which is critical. So I got load carriage.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I got insulation, head and upper body. I'm feeling good about it. How about you, James? Yeah, I was mostly worried about outer layer, you know, some kind of decent inner layer. Hat, we're getting gloves, so that's a done deal. And we're getting an underlayer too. So I'm feeling good. Yeah, I wanted to make sure we could heat something up. I'm hoping I can scavenge some of that bitter black bean on the way out of somebody's dumpster. So the
Starting point is 00:31:22 paradigm for tonight for tonight is scavenge, up cycle. We're racing each other and we're going to try to vanish. We're going to try to stay out of view. And last night in the area of this exercise, mid-Atlantic
Starting point is 00:31:40 area, we got about a inch and a half, two inches of snow. So watch your tracks tonight. Watch your tracks. Jones is ringing me. Mortiful. Welcome back to the Changing Earth podcast with author Sarah F. Hathaway and co-host
Starting point is 00:32:05 Chen Gibson. Blending survival, fiction, and fact to bring you entertaining education that will help you dream, survive, and thrive. And now here's your host, Sarah F. Hathaway and Chen Gibson. Hello, and welcome. back to the Changing Earth podcast. This is episode number 276. And I'd like to say, hey, Chin, what's up?
Starting point is 00:32:31 But Chin went AWOL. He got sucked into a Christmas party. So joining us today is my husband, Brock Hathaway. Hey, Brock, what's up? Hey, Brock, what's up? It's going. It's going pretty good. It's been a long weekend.
Starting point is 00:32:49 We had a good Thanksgiving event. And then pretty relaxed after that. Then pretty relaxed after that. Yeah, some interesting times. So it's good to take the days off to just be able to chill a little bit, I think. A little croquet in the backyard. A little hockey sack. Getting everybody, killing gopers.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Killing gophers. Always killing gophers. Oh, they're destroying our yard. And then the German Shepherd loves to eat them up on top of that. So, yeah, it's been good times. But it's been cold here. Today was a nice day. Today was a nice.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Yeah, okay. Today was nice, but it's been cold. And, like, we moved to Texas to be warm, I would think. But. Well, that's what we thought. At least we got firewood this year. Yeah, at least we got firewood. I'm going to go ahead and kick our mics to both sides.
Starting point is 00:33:48 So that way everybody can hear us out of two ears. Two ears are better. All right. Live stuff. Live stuff. Switching gears, having fun. Virgis, the book. I'm working, Brock's having to listen to my book all the time because I'm doing edits.
Starting point is 00:34:08 So that's fun, huh? Always. Oh, yeah. Same routine. We've done this for a few books now. Quite a few. This is number 10 that I'm writing now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:18 But it's fun, doing the back and forth and helping you with the edits. Oh, I always appreciate the feedback. There's just different brains work different ways. Brock's brain is very, very analytical. So I'm like, oh, they did this cool stuff from Brock's like. Yeah, no, they didn't. You can't do that. They can't do it that way.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I know it's fiction, but it ain't that fictional. So today, oh, I also want to invite you over to changing earth series.com, changing earthseries.com. I did some changes over there. I now have a chat system, which is going on, which is new and interesting. Chatty. Chatty. Yes. So you can contact me anytime, which could be a little scary.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Well, I'm live on the website. Gotcha. Kind of anything. Anytime could be kind of an inconvenience. Yeah, yeah. Definitely. Like, I'm not getting up in the middle of the night to answer it. But head on over, change your series.com, become a subscriber.
Starting point is 00:35:20 It really helps. I put a lot of time and energy and do. How do I spend most Sundays? Getting ready for the podcast. Yeah, right. Exactly. Laundry and podcast are Sundays. That's right.
Starting point is 00:35:36 So, yeah, changeurroseries.com. Become a member. It's like three bucks. We've got great membership stuff over there. The live chat going now, the audio dramas, all the book information. And I'm having a sale. Oh, sales. Sale, yes.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I didn't even know about the sale. I know, you didn't know about the sale. So I'm giving 30% off of everything on my website, which is books. Yeah. Well, don't we still got water bottles? We do have water bottles. They would have to special request water bottles because they listen to this show to know that we have water bottles. Oh, there we go.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Let's see who's listening. Yeah, those are only for when we're live in person. But good thinking on that one. Yeah, we do have the water bottles. But all the books, all that on sale, 30% off. Use the code Earth in all capitals. 2022. No spaces, just Earth, 2022.
Starting point is 00:36:33 And if you go over there, I literally put it like right there on the sale page for you. So it's tough to get it wrong. I try to help you out there, you know. Lead the horse to water, right? All right. So we're talking bug out clothes to stay warm because I'm always cold. Oh, yes. And I need to stay warm. He spends a lot of time heating my hands up in the winter time. Not by choice most of the time. Oh, but it's so good, so good. So we did a lot of skiing back
Starting point is 00:37:05 in the day. We used to be up in the snow quite a bit. And haven't been from Michigan, we learned how to, I learned how to layer in Kansas, where you grow up. Yeah, pretty cold. Yeah, you always got to have a few layers on so that way if it warms up you can strip down and if it gets colder well hopefully you brought enough right yeah that's that's really the name of the game i always carried around a backpack in michigan of like so i could have extra clothes or take off clothes like not that way but you know because of that if you wanted to change in weather in michigan just wait an hour that's what we always teased about. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:46 But we did a lot of skiing, and it taught us how to layer out. But I went even deeper on my research. I was like, what if you were on an Arctic expedition? Because. Oh, yeah, because you can't get sweating. Right? Exactly. You can't get sweating.
Starting point is 00:38:02 You have to be able to move still because you're like hiking, stuff like that. I mean, they're taking pictures. What I guess, you know, that requires hand dexterity, not as much as fine. firing a rifle, but still, you've got to be able to move. You can't be like the Christmas story with the kids. I can't put my arms down. Mom, mom, I can't put my arms down. Definitely, you're going to have to be functional.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Right, and carrying the go bag with all that stuff that you're carrying. You know all the waste. Those are going to be all sweat spots. Oh, yeah. Where it's pulling on you and stuff like that. So there was a few different. Ways to look at it, but I thought that would be a good place to start. So Poseidon Expeditions.com had a pretty cool article on like how to get ready for that Arctic vacation.
Starting point is 00:38:53 And so that's where I grab some of my information for. It's probably going to be moist in the wintertime. Generally, yeah, snow is pretty moist most time. Yeah, I mean, it's going to be snow or like rain could be worse. Yep. Because now you're down with the ice if you've got the cold temperatures, the cold, freezing rain. Yeah, Michigan, if you went out with the wet hair, it would literally freeze.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Oh, yeah. Right? And what's the old saying? Cotton kills? Cotton kills. Yeah. Take it out of my mouth. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Don't wear cotton in when you're trying to stay warm. If you're going to sweat, it just pulls it off of, just wicks the heat away from your body. So it literally, remember, cotton kills, which I think my thermals are like all cotton. Probably. Yeah. So I'm definitely, they're all, you know, nasty anyway. We need an upgrade anyway.
Starting point is 00:39:48 All right. So, of course, I'm going to start at my feet because if my feet are warm, my body's feeling better than if my, you know, if my feet are cold, I'm done. Like if we're out skiing and my feet are getting cold, it is over time. Nothing's warming the body up at that point. Yeah. The numb, the toes are all numb, like your first. and your ski boots and stuff, it's the worst. So they have those electric socks now.
Starting point is 00:40:16 No, they do. And Dad had those electric ski boots that you can plug in. So I don't know. I haven't worn anything electric to warm me. I've only used like the thermal packs. Yeah, the little pop packs that you can keep in your pocket, keep your hands warm. They have like socks that those slip into and stuff now. I don't know if I could walk around.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Maybe somebody from the Midwest. I don't know. My feet get pretty hot. Anyways, like I'm not into like the big woolly, woolly socks. Yeah, yeah. But I like the woolly socks. Yeah, I know. You still got little ice cubes inside there.
Starting point is 00:40:53 I do. I do. It's true. So a thin sock is preferable underneath your big sock. It helps to wick the moisture away. And when I was thinking like the tight socks, I'm always thinking like a Holly blend or some kind of synthetic. Well, on this article, they have a form of wool, but it's a special one.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Oh, oh, I got to find it in my notes now. I know. I'm lost. But it's thinner than traditional wool, and it's more comfortable. Marino wool. Marino wool. Marino wool, yes. And so they can make even the thin socks out of that wool.
Starting point is 00:41:39 that will naturally pull away your sweat and vaporize it. Oh, vaporizing. Vaporizing. Like little lasers coming out of it. And also it works against the bacteria that causes odor. So that's a good thing. Yeah, I mean, neither of us really have stinky feet. Yeah, but I've known some stinky feeders.
Starting point is 00:42:05 And that stuff's bad. That might be an interesting sock to try Because I said I don't like the big thick wool ones. They get my feet too hot. And then you're uncomfortable when they're too hot too. Right. And yeah. Slimy.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Yeah. And when you're wearing like a winter boot, they're not designed to breathe like a summer shoe. Correct. Because you're trying to keep all that moisture out. Yeah. So once they get hot in there, it's, I wish I had that problem. That'd be great. I wish I had that problem.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I don't. So now they've come a long way. So I wear an arch support around my foot like all the time. Yeah. And but now they have the arch support with ankle and heel support in the sock. In the sock. In the sock. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:56 So I mean you're pretty much set right there. Two is one. One is none. Three is better. Three is better. Yep. Three pairs because you never know. If one's down.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Well, then socks is something that you need to really think about having a few extra. It's not like we can put a lot extra in the go bag. Right. But to be able to get a dry pair of socks, throw that on in a situation that you need to, you're going to be very happy. Oh, and make sure your go bag is waterproof because I thought mine was and it wasn't. And so if you have your socks in the go bag without being protected, now you just have wet socks to put on on top. of wet socks. So that's bad.
Starting point is 00:43:40 That's bad. That was Preper Camp 2020. Did your bag leak? You had your go bag with you. I did. Mine did not. I don't think it did. He has one of like the military ones.
Starting point is 00:43:53 It's pretty sick. And I don't think yours did. I didn't have any problems with. Just my clothes. Figures. So the thin sock. I'm a lover of the thin sock. The marina wool.
Starting point is 00:44:07 I saw a pair of them for like $21 a pair. So, I mean, you're going to be paying for it. Ski socks are just as good. They're like the poly blends. They're really good. And then thick wool socks. So I always knew like the thick socks should be like the wool, the, you know, some kind of a natural fiber.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Alpaca. It's really great. Again, you're going to pay for it. You're going to pay for it. Yeah. Yeah. things they go like 30 bucks a pair of socks i'm like they're proud of them socks i'm like dude i can buy like eight but they are pretty soft and they're pretty comfortable it's true and so you don't
Starting point is 00:44:49 need a lot of pairs then either people are like i don't ever wash my wool socks oh that's gross yeah that's kind of how i felt i was like uh everything needs to be washed okay i don't know about that um oh cozia makes marino wool. That's 80% merino wool. So that's pretty good with like a poly blend. Three pair for only 1399. I found them on Amazon. Cozia.
Starting point is 00:45:19 C-O-Z-I-A. So that was a good find. Three pair for 1399. That's awesome. Boots-wise, I found a pair of boots. I really liked you. Oh, I'm sure you did. I'm like, hmm.
Starting point is 00:45:35 It's not that cold in. Texas that often though to To warrant Those boots Yeah You know My hikers were Because we're not out on as much property
Starting point is 00:45:44 My hikers aren't even getting beaten so I don't think that's a good thing But So anyway I really really liked The Adidas They're called
Starting point is 00:45:56 Terrix free hiker boots They will fit in an urban Or a hiking environment They don't have a lot of laces And stuff Because you know how when you're out in the snow the laces they get all packed with snow and everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:10 So this is all like shielded, like the shielded front type of. Yeah. And I didn't know of like leather. Yeah. Awesome. Like your fallback. But leather also needs to be cared for a lot when it gets moist.
Starting point is 00:46:24 And if your feet are in that wet, cold thing all the time, when are they getting dried out? Aired out. Right. So that brought me to my next point because Ellen, in Australia brought me ugs and brought brock hugs too but they're not the best fit but we won't tell her that don't tell her that and uh and um i love the ugs so i'm like okay if i was going to bug out in the winter i'd probably want myugs but i can't wear them to bug out in are they worth carrying
Starting point is 00:46:58 i was a definite comfort but i don't know about carrying i think so okay you're at you're like chilling at the fire. Yeah. You need something else to put your feet into. While your boots and your socks are drying out. Right. I'm buying a little bit of what you're selling. If we could like tow around that huge thing that Steve made, we could, we could keep them dry all the time.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Oh, yeah. But that thing was heavy. And you needed a fan. And you needed a fan. Fair enough. And power. He ran it off power too. Oh, the fan.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Okay. So see, Ugs are more necessity. You need something for your feet while you're just chilling. Something. And technically, if you were in a real big survival situation and you'd been out for a while, if you're trapping and hunting, you can make your own. You can make your own.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Fugs. Fair enough. With that fur on the inside to help keep them feet on. Those comb pouts that I did would have worked perfect. Yeah. You could have had nice little slippers. Yep. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Okay. So while we're making ugs now, while we're out there. That's because we weren't allowed to take them out of the house. All righty. With the boots, make sure you try them on with all of your socks on because you're probably going to have a bigger foot with all those socks on.
Starting point is 00:48:28 I would think so when you're layering up. Right? And when you start hiking, your feet will start expanding. So always going to. to buy a little half a size too big anyway and you might want to think about a full size too big if you're wearing all those socks inside there just make sure it fits um when you're in the store walk around they have the up and down little rock things you can walk on now yeah some places
Starting point is 00:48:53 yeah yeah like a rio but most places you're buying yeah hiking boots and whatnot they got some if you're buying online good luck i even knew the shoe size of my boot and still didn't match i'm not a big fan of buying shoes online. That's one of those things you got to put on your feet and walk around. You do. And then if you order them, then you have to return them and it's all this crazy and pain in the butt ski. Yeah, I don't disagree.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Okay, base layer. So I've always worn like really, really tight thermals. But I've learned that's a no-no. Really? Yeah. You should actually have a little bit of space even between your body. and the thermal to provide that heat layer. So like the wickable sports shirts?
Starting point is 00:49:44 Right. Spandex, stuff like that. Yeah, you don't want them even like that super tight. I'm going to buy a size bigger now because I always thought like, oh, it would be super tight. That's where everybody can see your muscles. Well, no, if you get them too loose, then when you try to put other clothes on, it gets all bunchy.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Yeah, yeah, fair enough. And not comfortable, so you can't go so loose that you're having issues dressing. But it should have like, it shouldn't be super tight against your skin. You should be able to have that little bit of air layer so that your heat can accumulate in there. It also allows for that wicking process to happen. Gotcha. Yeah. And arresting and interesting.
Starting point is 00:50:26 I know. So the marino wool came up again, thinner, softer than most walls. Wicks the water, prevents odor, bacteria. you don't need loomie or whatever. Oh, I'm bringing up the loomie. Oh, not the loom. Oh, yeah. The loomie.
Starting point is 00:50:45 I found a pair of really nice looking thermals at iguana sport.com. 100 bucks. 100 bucks. For merinole thermals. Yeah. I have the butt flap? No butt flap. No.
Starting point is 00:51:03 No, not a one piece. You know, One piece is, they don't work for women especially. Like it's, yeah. I would believe that. Right. So, but that was a point. Some of them they sell with like the feet already connected in them. So like socks as part of your lower thermals.
Starting point is 00:51:24 No. Yeah. No, because you can't change out your socks. Exactly. And if they were attached to your leg, your pants, and you somehow got wet. Yeah. Right now.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Now, that's no good. Yeah, two pieces have to go together as one. So don't do that. And then also they have some like body suits, the full body suits. I just see problems there. That's your lower layer. And like if you got to go to the bathroom, you know, that's not happening.
Starting point is 00:51:53 True. But I could see the bonus to the one piece. You don't have to worry about like your jacket riding up or something and that little small of your back. or even some snow getting in your pant line. That's the second layer. You can wear your bibs. It's the second layer and provide that extra layer. But we're not there yet.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Okay. Yeah, we're staying here. So 100 bucks, iguana sports. Not tight, you know, not super loose. High neck or low neck, totally your choice. Brock would be low neck for sure. Yeah. Can't do the stuff up around them.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Yeah, we think he was strangled in a past life. So I would probably go for the higher neck, though. But I don't know, because you can't, like, remove that again. Like, I can put on one of those, the neck. Sure, you can put a scar for a neck. Yeah, but you can't. Face masks that you can't take it off. And you're stuck in it.
Starting point is 00:52:56 So I'm kind of going back and forth. I usually did wear a turtleneck in the snow, though, when I was on the snow. And that again, if it's a cotton one and it gets wet from snow getting up in there or whatever, you're in the same boat again. So no cotton. Cotton kills. In the cold, cotton kills. More affordable options, you're looking at like your polyester blends with nylon or radon. Make sure, radon?
Starting point is 00:53:25 Rayon. Rayon. I'm stuck on those lasers. And make sure that it's not a cotton blend. are your mid layer. So this includes your body armor because you'd want to put your body armor on over your thermals, but all that bulky stuff.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Right. So this would be you should have, you know, your armor should fit really snugly and it's probably going to make you sweat more around that. So the wicking even becomes even more important and hopefully the back of your material for your vest. also wicks ours does and we didn't spend a whole lot on our armor so it's really easy to find that that option as well they suggest looking for clothes with zippers buttons and adjustable straps that way when it's too warm you can open it up and allow air in you know to be able to get well and i
Starting point is 00:54:24 see a lot of a lot of jackets nowadays too have the little zipper vents you know underneath the arm along the side so you can evince vent a little bit of that out without opening the jacket right once you get too hot you vent those pits man put some loomy on there oh I'm not sponsored by loomy by the way
Starting point is 00:54:46 I'm just stuck on it all right they have some funny commercials so this can be one or two layers or three or four depending on how cold you are of course the more layers you put on the more you're going to limit your ability. Also, you know, having armor around you and stuff should help,
Starting point is 00:55:09 but metal plate, that's going to be cold. Yeah, after a while, I'm thinking, although your body heat also warming it up too, so. Right, radiate off of it. I would definitely, I mean, if you're in that situation, though, in any kind of unknown situation, like a survival situation, I would definitely have the armor on if you have it. That'd just be dumb not to.
Starting point is 00:55:29 So one or two layers of vest is always a good option Because it provides you that core Protection, but not your arms Doesn't limit out your arms, right Choose clothing that helps the water to continue vaporizing So you don't want to put something on over your nice wicking clothes That stops that process and now you're just a sweatball So continue with the fleece
Starting point is 00:55:59 or the wool, natural fibers, no cotton. We're going to say that many times today. Probably. Zip up coats with high neck, so that's where you could get the neck line in, you know, is that secondary layer of bringing it up. Not too short, so your torso is exposed. That's always a problem. Pants, waterproof is best.
Starting point is 00:56:23 So I wouldn't even think, like, we used to wear the thermals with sweatpants, then our coverings over it, but your sweatpants could get toasted sometimes. Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, even just skiing by the end of the day, you know, up around the waist vans a little bit, wet and moist down around where the boots been riding. Yep. So I could see that. Luckily, we knew we were just on the slopes for the afternoon.
Starting point is 00:56:49 But in that kind of situation, so I'm thinking like our new tack pants or something like that, you know, even though they're kind of bad. baggy. It should be a little bit tighter. So, yeah, very interesting thinking about it that way. And I was like, duh, why'd we wear sweatpants under there? That was like the worst thing we could do. Bibbs, again.
Starting point is 00:57:13 So if you have that back problem where it's opening up, bibs, you know. But again, rough for ladies, trying to pee with bibs on. Never, never a fun experience. I peed on my strap again. Uh-huh. On the front, whatever. Yeah. Okay, the outer layer, this comes in direct contact with the element.
Starting point is 00:57:34 So it needs to be waterproof, but it also needs to be windproof. So there's a lot of things that are one or the other and not both. Yeah, I was going to say, you were just talking earlier about how you need all your stuff to still be breathable to wick it away. But you throw a windbreaker type jacket. Not the outer layer. But not on the upper. That's where it shuts down, right? You shut down the convection right there.
Starting point is 00:57:58 to boom. That seals the baked potato in. Yeah, because you can air out so you're not getting like that, you know, much. So it should be waterproof and windproof or you're going to be wet. And cold. We have the rain suits, you know, just from Walmart or whatever we bought for one of our survival trips. So that, you know, is a fallback. Ski clothes do work great, though.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Yeah. hood hood is a good idea because you lose 20% of your heat out your head so a hood's a good idea however hoods can be very dangerous in self-defense scenarios and can be used against you so you need to
Starting point is 00:58:41 be aware of that right off the bat that it provides a handle handles are bad especially ones that go around your neck pockets places the hang gear put stuff you know it should be really utilitarian so that you you can easily stow stuff that you're using just on your clothes.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Your back, your go bag is so full of stuff to have to stop and like go deep in that bag. Pain in the butt. Yeah. Unless you're at a camp. Yeah. The only time you want to be getting that deep in your bag is when you're camped. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:16 So having those spots to store stuff, a mini bag, that kind of thing is essential. I have that little shoulder bag for the day. pack that goes with my go bag. If all you have is your go bag and you need to just like go scouting around and you're going to be wild foraging while you're scouting around you don't have to carry the go bag the whole time.
Starting point is 00:59:37 You need an alternate bag, right? Exactly. Yeah. That'd be a good one to create something that like hooks right to your go bag. Bottom of the pants should prevent snow from entering your boot area. So a lot of times they have elastics like our ski pants, you
Starting point is 00:59:53 know, or your boots are tall so your pants can tuck in and you can tuck one layer in make sure your outer layer is right yeah fair enough stuff getting inside the boot yeah I seen the Arctic dude he had his pants tucked in with his boots they're each there on rock's not a fan of the luck so colors I was thinking about colors um you want to blend in so if you're in an urban environment you don't want to go out in full camo. Like your hunting outfit is the only thing you have that would be for the element. It's probably not what you want to be walking around in in an urban setting.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Right. In a survival situation. You know, have another option. And it's easier to make things into camo than it is to make camo into a solid color. So if you bought it green or something of that nature, it's a lot easier to turn that color into camo. Tans, browns, black, greens. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Right. The black nighttime. But if it's like a white situation, you could be pretty obvious if you're the only black, you know, full black walking around. Very true. Your whole groups. And because a lot of our ski clothes are black. Um, natural colors.
Starting point is 01:01:15 It'd be cool if you can find like blue jeans, you know, not blue jeans, but look like blue jeans for the outer shell. Because then it would be so less. obvious that like I am dressed I am fully prepared for this experience maybe you should mug me and take all of my clothing right right right so the denim pattern yeah the denim pattern that'd be epic I wouldn't do bright colors either just for obvious reasons yeah of course dependent on your situation right unless you're like unless you're lost or your skin yeah you want to get found yes Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Right. On Arctic Expeditions, you wear red, stuff like that. If you are in an emergency situation, you might want to keep something red and shiny. Yeah. And bright that you can pull out if it is a rescue situation. Yeah. Something that would really break that color away from the snow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Your black ain't going to do it either. No. So, yeah. Good point. Hands. So you need to have backup gloves as well. This is another thing that I would be like backup, backup. backup, you know, two is one, one is done, three is better.
Starting point is 01:02:26 You can never have too many gloves. Yeah, that's my opinion. So a tight pair that fits close to the hand, so you can actually use them, but not have to take your glove off all the way. And then on outer shell glove, you can put over the top of that. Mittens will reduce finger dexterity,
Starting point is 01:02:46 so, you know, I'm not the hugest fan of mittens. Not me neither. I mean, I guess if you had them for like at, camp scenario, but still, and they do have the ones that, like, the top peels back, but you're going to have gloves on underneath that. One thing that definitely wouldn't be on the Arctic adventure to our list is those heat gloves that they make where, you know, you can wear gloves and then you can deal with the barbecue and stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Oh, where you can pick up, like, the hot rocks and the, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. Because then you could have your hands and your thin gloves in those still worn. able to work with the fire but a lot of times the materials that those synthetic Gorgortex and stuff very flammable and you don't want that mountain to your hands no
Starting point is 01:03:34 especially not in a survival situation so yeah all right as for the hood you should have a hood but you also need a warm hat hoods limit your visibility and there may not be practical at all in a hostile environment because you can't see peripherally
Starting point is 01:03:52 True. So now you've got a handle that's on the back. Absolutely. Maybe like. Beanie's always good to have because that's nice and tight to the head. Keep your head warm. Yep. And then like if you're in a safe environment, you pull the hood up over the beanie.
Starting point is 01:04:10 I mean, that's double awesome. And as my dad would always say, you need to have a good tuk to wear around. The tuk, for sure. Wool or fleece, both of those, same way. They have the hats too that have the little knitted brims. And then still cover your ears. You can do the optional ear up and down. Those are pretty cool as well.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Stick with the wool on that iguana sport. There was a good beanie there. I only came in white, though. I wouldn't wear white in my head. That's just too. Or the balacal clava. Bala clava. That's the facial wrap thing.
Starting point is 01:04:50 You know. Yeah. You wrap that thing. on your head, stay warm. Yeah, I'm not a huge fan, but it is there. Scarf, again, I'm not a huge fan because of handles. So I'm always going to think self-defense-wise, and you've literally tied something around your neck.
Starting point is 01:05:10 So I'm not the hugest fan of the scarf. I do like the ski masks, the ones that are fleece and have the weird nose and stuff. Yeah, the really tight ones. Mm-hmm. and I do like those neck covering so I even have a sweatshirt that like the neck thing is hooked to the sweatshirt that way when I'm out hiking, walking or whatnot
Starting point is 01:05:30 if it's too cold you can literally pull that thing up over your ears or your face and everything so they're super cheap nowadays they sell the the ones you can buy for like five bucks for five or something 25 bucks for five of them and they're the masks that we always use to work out in they're the skull mass.
Starting point is 01:05:51 You can wear them as a bandana on your head as a neck thing. Or as a face covering, yep. Mm-hmm. They're not like overwhelmingly thick, but still provide that warmth. Anything is going to work at that point. So. That's why you always just got to wear a beard. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Keeps your face nice on one. No comment. For the mass, they can be really intimidating when you're approaching other groups. Oh, yeah, yeah. Especially those ones that we've been getting, the skulls and the fangs and all that. Oh, hey, we're just coming. Yeah, no, right. Pull that stuff down.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Show your face. Show your eyes, right? For eyes, snowboarding ski goggles. Really good to have. If you're in a snow situation, it should be a lot of UV protection. Oh, yeah, because that glare. coming off the snow is bad on the eyes. Yep.
Starting point is 01:06:55 And if you're under the eyes everywhere. So back. But now you don't necessarily need to have your ski goggles and whatnot all the time. If you're just in a cold environment, right? So probably want to have sunglasses or something that's not quite as bulky. I don't think about that because our glasses tint. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:14 So. But you could still wear the ski goggles with the glasses underneath. So, yeah, you should definitely have. have the really good sunglasses as well. The ski goggles, though, also provide protection from chemical sprays. It's true. Nobody's going to pepper spray you in the face. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:36 So they do have the, like, where it can collect around the edges on that foamy stuff. But some of them don't. But you're not taking a direct shot to the eyes. Well, hopefully not, right? So, yeah, but they can provide you protection from chemical sprays. So two is one, right? You want to be able to easily shed and add layers of clothing is the key to staying warm in the cold. And that's what we've been doing here in Texas in November.
Starting point is 01:08:09 So I'm not very thrilled about that one. All righty. Well, we're going to do some change in earth news next. We're just ripping through today on this lovely Sunday. You're going to stick around with me for Changing Earth News or you're going to make us dinner? It's completely up to you. If you need help getting through the news, I can stay. Okay.
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Starting point is 01:08:55 Yeah. Yeah, I need a sound man for sure. or sound person person sound person way to be PC yeah I'm trying I've tried I was raised old school At a girl what do you do it right sun today is calm a couple of small plasma eruptions hasn't been anything too big of note although but ben's been putting out a lot of content lately so shoot today was about the first day we saw the sun in the last three four days down there so right yeah cold it's been. First storm came in a little bit warm
Starting point is 01:09:32 and then the cold front hit and it's been cold so yeah it was nice to get out and enjoy it a little. We got some cronal holes coming across the sun. They're going to cause some low-scale geomagnetic storms. I've been reading that up in Alberta.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Their grid is already struggling with just the small scale storms that we've been having. Really? Yeah. Pink Aurora. I think the shielding's going a little bit faster than what they had predicted. So interesting stuff. All that hairspray in the 80s.
Starting point is 01:10:08 It was all that airspray. Turn it. If we would have known. Big bangs. You know? Yeah. Big bangs, they're going to screw up the big bang. It did.
Starting point is 01:10:20 All right. So I'm doing a little catch-up from the 17th to the 19th because some interesting things went down in that time period. and I didn't have a lot of it on my news that week. So Saudi Arabia is just getting hit with storm after storm after storm. One child actually died in the last rain event in that week. And it was interesting. This week they got so much hail there. It was like a wall of hail.
Starting point is 01:10:51 They were showing you the side. And I am not lying it was like five foot tall. So you could see the dirt. So there was some dirt. Right. But then it was like three feet of hail piled up. That had just accumulated from the storm, huh? In the desert.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Crazy. Yeah. In the desert. Yeah. I'm sure they're probably not really set up to deal with a lot of flooding situations there. It's like Texas and the snow. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 01:11:16 Shut the city down. Yeah. And that sand, it just moves with. Oh, yeah. Well, sand and water is not a good combination. We know that. We live in the sand now as well. Other things of note,
Starting point is 01:11:30 Germany was hit by a strong tornado that did 6.7 mile long swath of damage. 50 homes damage pretty severely. I wonder how often tornadoes happen in... Germany. Germany. Or even like in Europe area in general. I've got a lot of worldwide listeners now,
Starting point is 01:11:52 so maybe one of my German listeners can let us know how often you guys see tornadoes over there. Something I would expect in Texas is not something I would think of for Germany. For Germany. Right. Scotland saw a lot of flooding that week and wildfires in Argentina are still burning. So that was interesting. We had asteroid 22 WJ1 impact the earth over Niagara Falls.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Really? Yeah. What day was that? That was on like the, of course you'd ask me that. I think it was like the, I think it was the 19th actually that we're into the 19th. Yeah. But I was like Niagara Falls, are you serious? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:37 So it was 1.6 to 3.9 feet bag, so obviously not very large, but it was seen by a lot of people. Sonic boom, that kind of thing. Record snowfall in the Great Lakes area. Three people died in that storm. And then heavy snowfall in Pakistan. Again, like. Again, not something that you really think of. They've got the mountain ranges.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Right. So why not? I'm sure they get plenty of snow up. Right. And a lot of great water for downtown. Okay, so on the 20th flooding in Saudi Arabia continues, a wildfire broke out in Southern California, some valley.
Starting point is 01:13:21 I've checked on the information to figure out about the wildfire and they hadn't updated the website which is really weird. I've never seen that happen before. Usually they are pretty on their updates. Right. It's got to be because of Thanksgiving and the holiday break. So couldn't update the wildfire information.
Starting point is 01:13:42 But there is another one burning in Washington as well, really unusual for November wildfires. Especially up in Washington. I mean, that's a pretty wet state. They're getting rain. Yeah. A lot of rain. November 21st, Sakharajima volcano exploded with activity.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Indonesia saw more massive flooding down there. They just never get a break down there. Never stop. It doesn't. It doesn't. It's volcano, earthquake, flooding, tsunami, volcano, earthquake. So Saudi Arabia, Mecca. So Jakarta is where Mecca is.
Starting point is 01:14:19 I know you've got. Yeah? Yeah. Okay. And Mecca is flooded, flooded with water. So I found that kind of interesting. I'm not going to draw any conclusions. I was going to say, I'm sure there's probably some proverb that goes with us.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Right, I'm just going to be quiet. So time has taught me to keep my mouth shut sometimes. Oh, really? Yeah. There was a 5.4 earthquake on the 21st in Jakarta, not Jakarta for Mecca. um jeta sorry my bad both with jays jacarta indonesia 260 people died in that event that was the the big earthquake and it was only a 5.4 um it was only 10 kilometers deep so new south wales this is ellen oh still water raining biggest rainfall in 118 years their dams are full the water is
Starting point is 01:15:21 everywhere so i've been checking in on her and uh british columbia is also on fire near vancouver so the west just kind of right the north is not doing too well right the northwest and usually they're over fire season that's why i really wish the maps would have been up today anyhow uh 22nd there was a 7.0 earthquake that triggered tsunami warnings at the solomon islands that one was a deeper quake luckily not as many uh much damage or death from that. Well, you got me there. I'm not sure where the Solomon Islands are.
Starting point is 01:15:55 The Solomon Islands are down south over by the Caribbean. Okay. Area. And then Italy, there was severe weather in some of the coastal communities that caused flooding, sandbagging activity, things like that. And then there was a 6.2 magnitude earthquake off the coast of Baja, which is Southern California, right, where Mexico, California meet. That one was pretty big, but no damage.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Nothing like that. 23rd of November, 6.1 in Turkey. That one damaged about 8,000 homes. That was, yeah, that was a biggie to hit there. There's been mixed reports about how many people were died, so how many people died so officially they didn't put that out. But I saw numbers that were about 50 people dead and about 50 people injured in that event.
Starting point is 01:16:47 So it's kind of Argentinian wildfires continue to grow. So Venice saw major flooding on the 23rd. So their canal system, it just could not handle the amount of rain that inundated that area. I mean, you'd think they'd be pretty well set out for flooding, though. Yeah. I mean, Venice is like the water. Yeah. Don't put that expensive stuff on the lower floor.
Starting point is 01:17:12 Yeah. Once you start getting that water accumulating, though, it starts rising quick. It does. Yeah, and everything's full, so it can't drain out anymore. Yeah. And then Texas saw flooding down by the Mexico border on the 23rd from a storm down there. So here's your sign. Just flood the whole area out.
Starting point is 01:17:34 November 21st, Jetta, Mecca floods again. Massive flooding continues. And then Miami Beach was hit with more flooding on the 24th as well. So it has not been a good year for Miami Beach at all. 25th of November That's when that massive hailstorm fell in Saudi Arabia Houston was hit by a tornado Couldn't have been very big because I didn't hear very much about it
Starting point is 01:17:59 And I'm in Texas I didn't hear anything Chemcheca The Chavillic Volcano Wic Chivalik Volcano wakes up So it's a new volcano Kempcheca is Never eat slimy worms It is Eastern Russia.
Starting point is 01:18:19 So the Kempheka Peninsula is this little peninsula that comes off of Eastern Russia like in Siberia. And it's tons of volcanoes because it's the ring of fire. And now when you say wakes up, it's just showing some activity. It's bubbling, churning. It looked kind of like a cauldron. So it wasn't like overflowing, but it's active and it's churning and showing its colors.
Starting point is 01:18:45 There was flubbing Flubbing in the Caribbean With massive mudslides So flooding there and there's more flooding Expect they have another storm coming through This week So it's not looking good there Israel experienced major flooding
Starting point is 01:19:05 26 millimeters in two hours I don't know the millimeters to inches conversion And then a tornado hit New Orleans Metro area area on the 26th. So both those are yesterday. Today, there's the Caribbean warning for flooding. There was flash flooding in Tobago, Trinidad, which is just north of South America by Venezuela. And I was very surprised because Venezuela's been on my list, Venezuela, Colombia are all at the top of South America.
Starting point is 01:19:36 And they've just been getting hammered. So it was nice to see them off the list. They could really use a reprieve. All right, earthquake rundown. In the last 24 hours, hours, there's been 41 earthquakes that were 4.0 or bigger. In the last 48 hours, there was 84 earthquakes that were 4.0 or bigger. Last week, 302, and in the last six, in the last two weeks, 610. This is the largest uptick in earthquake activity that I've seen since September, and the sun was much more active in September. We do have a large amount of coronal hole activity. We haven't seen a lot of large eruptions off the sun, so it's interesting to just see like that huge increase in earthquake activity
Starting point is 01:20:24 without really could be residual from stuff that we got kind of hammered with previously. Things are just on the moon, on the move. Very interesting, though. Biggest of today was a 5.6 in the Easter Islands region, so that's out in the ocean. We have 26 volcanoes actively erupting, 25 volcanoes showing minor activity and 34 volcanoes showing unrest.
Starting point is 01:20:52 Most of the volcano activity is all in the ring of fire and then the west coast of Africa is also lighting up right now. So it's been all those earthquakes and stuff just making everything go. More volcanoes were added this week because the number of erupting stayed the same, the number of unrest stayed the same, but the ones showing minor activity went up by two.
Starting point is 01:21:17 And then as I mentioned, we don't have any of the wildfire numbers because I saw Kentucky was number one again. I was like, wait a minute. Kentucky was number one last week, and that was odd, and the numbers are all exactly the same. So I know they haven't done an update, so I'll bring in that update, update next time. All righty, and that's the change in earth news.
Starting point is 01:21:42 I'm having to start to dig further and further. It seems like a lot of the channels that had a lot of the worldwide news in a consecutive sequence that you could just watch three or four of them to get all the information. They're starting to slip away. I don't know why that is. It's almost like they don't want people to share what's going on globally. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:22:08 Possible. Right. Tim Foll hat. You want me to put your Tim Paul hat on? I'm good with time. Jump in the boat with me. Come on, babe. All righty guys.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Well, that's our Sunday update. And hopefully if you ever have to bug out in the cold, you're going to stay a lot warmer now. Key is layers. I mean, when it comes down to it, try to avoid that cotton. Get some, you know, start with something. And you can always upgrade later. So just get something so you can layer out those layers appropriately. and then you can always update later.
Starting point is 01:22:44 Another big point that I always like to bring in is with the layering, that space in between, you can always stuff it with, you know, newspaper or grasses. I was going to say, you know, that's an old street trick when you're out in the cold and you ain't got a lot of heavy stuff. Well, you start shoveling trash and newspaper and paper products and grass.
Starting point is 01:23:07 And as long as they're dry, that's going to give you that layer that's going to help keep you warm. That insulation layer that bounces the heat. Yeah. So be resourceful. When all else fails, you don't got to go out and spend a ton of money on gear. That's not what this is about at all.
Starting point is 01:23:24 The point is, you know, keep thinking outside the box. Keep figuring out how you can solve your problem, how you can adapt and overcome. And, you know, do the best you can with what you got without getting frostbite on your feet and stuff like that. That's the key. because you're not going to want to do with that in a post-collapse situation and get water and take care of your kids and try and keep everybody calm
Starting point is 01:23:49 yeah no thank you no that's why even when we moved to Texas we have all of our winter gear stored and I mean they keep talking about the next ice age if that's the case so forget it I can't live with that my sunshine all righty guys
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Starting point is 01:25:41 This is Dave Jones, the NBC guy. I know you are not used to this, right? You are not used to this. We are packing the bags. Packing the bags. These are the caches that everybody's going to get along the way. Maria decided to help me do this. And I'm going to be pausing this from time to time so that she can interject.
Starting point is 01:26:12 some of what she's doing because wow, wow. Each one is going to have three boxes. So there's going to be, they have to go through the boxes because Future Dan put a lot of junk in some of the boxes. And you have to go through.
Starting point is 01:26:37 And screws. And painting rolls. And a painter rolls. to roller. Anyway, Marie is going above and beyond what I was going to do. So
Starting point is 01:26:51 they are actually, each one is going to have a tarp. Each one is going to have some kind of a blanket. Each one is going to have some way of boiling water and making a fire. Okay?
Starting point is 01:27:08 Now, I did put a life straw in each one of the guy's boxes. So they'll be able to get water and maybe boil water. So I'm going to put fire making capabilities in there. I have a secret test
Starting point is 01:27:27 for them. I put a bullet in one of their three boxes. And at the end, this is PBN, mom. I'm making a, I'm making a recording. If they listen, they find out.
Starting point is 01:27:45 They swore that they would not listen to anyone. Who is going to get a milky way? He's the skinniest. Give it to James. Oh my gosh. Maria says these are five-year-old boys going out to play Army. Yeah, exactly. Maybe, maybe that's true.
Starting point is 01:28:09 I'm not sure. But I'll tell you this. It's going to be 22 degrees and anywhere from three to eight inches of snow on the ground. Okay, I'll put a whiskey. Okay. This was Maria's idea. To each put them a little flask so that they could have like, what is it, an ounce or two ounces? A shot or two of whiskey.
Starting point is 01:28:37 You don't want to drink whiskey in cold weather, but one, shot or two shot you know it warms you up but after that you lose your thermal it doesn't hold the heat yeah and there's
Starting point is 01:28:55 game playing in the background there we are it's it's like Christmas in reverse okay so we're we're putting these boxes together three boxes nine boxes total
Starting point is 01:29:10 some things are positively useless, some things you could make into something else. So that's the way it is. Oh. What can't you do with the screws and, well, no screws, it's shrooms. Yeah. And a painting roll. A roller.
Starting point is 01:29:32 A synthetic. It wouldn't even be a good fire starter. Maybe you can hunt mouses. Now, that's where Maria comes in. and she's been putting little snacks in the boxes. And I was not going to put any food whatsoever in the boxes. Oh, yeah. Bread fresh never.
Starting point is 01:29:58 This is getting fun. This project is getting fun. So here's the hidden secret thing that I put in each one of the guy's boxes is a bullet. Now, they will not have any fun. firearms on them, and this bullet probably won't be chambered to anything that they even own, but it is a bullet. And at the end, I'm going to say, who has their bullet? Because a bullet, they all have a multi-tool on them.
Starting point is 01:30:31 They can pull the projectile out, and with the gunpowder and primer, they could start a fire in the worst conditions. okay so that is what I want to see if someone said hey I'm going to keep that bullet just in case I need to start a fire that way I'm also going to put them some of my fire nuggets in there which if you've listened to the PBN are cotton balls cotton that comes out of pill bottles and soaked in paraffin wrapped up in tinfoil it's kind of like minn sterno and if they use that they'll be able to definitely start a fire and probably boil some water before it goes completely kaput so this is this is the first daily audio cache
Starting point is 01:31:28 I'm sure I'm going to be recording more because I'm going over there tomorrow to place the boxes they are going to travel I think Future Dan said a total of eight or nine kilometers to pick up each one of the boxes and then stay in a park and the standard is if you get stopped by the police
Starting point is 01:31:56 you automatically fail you should give them a pink backpack oh yeah pink backpack oh I am putting little bags in there that they can carry with them. They're nuts. I know.
Starting point is 01:32:14 Well, did I explain the first part is they're going into a thrift store and they're each going to be armed with $25. There's going to be a time limit. They have to go into that store, get everything they need. It's two ounces. Okay, two ounces. So they each get two shots. That's perfect.
Starting point is 01:32:34 Perfect. Okay, PBN family. Oh, my. Gosh, I'm telling you, this is going to be the exercise to end all exercises. You have heard them before doing stuff, but they have never done it in 22-degree weather with, what, four to eight inches of snow? At least they'll have snow to melt. I can't help but smile.
Starting point is 01:33:09 I'm sorry. Okay, PBM family, take care and stay tuned. Hello, everyone out there in Internet Radio Land and welcome to Pre with the Joneses, where each week we tackle the toughest questions in the Prepper Arena. I'm your host, Dave Jones, the NBC Guy, Nuclear, Biological, Chemical, and I want to be your personal weapon of mass instruction. I promise my listeners two things. each week. First, that they'll learn something new, and secondly, that they'll be entertained in the process.
Starting point is 01:33:57 So here we go with show number 11. 11 shows under my belt. Holy cow, you'd think by now I'd actually know what I'm doing. But apparently I don't because I have, with me, Dane from Gun Metal Armory. He's got a Thursday night show here on Prepper Broadcasting Network. And we're doing this show here together. Dan, are you there? I am here. Can you hear me? Yeah, here you're just fine.
Starting point is 01:34:28 Hey, can you tell my audience? And boy, do I got an audience? Look at that chat room. I think you're bringing, yeah, you're bringing in some guests here. Hey, tell us a little bit about yourself and about your show. Okay, well, I've actually been gunsmithing now. for a couple of years, but I recently graduated from gunsmithing school in Prescott, Arizona, at Yavapai College.
Starting point is 01:35:01 You know, I did the gunsmithing school, and then I did the advanced training, and then I did some CNC training, which was really cool. When I was younger, I did martial arts for a really long time, Muay kickboxing, some different Kali knife fighting stuff. I'm a big fan of the carambit, as people that have listened to my show have heard. You know, things like that. I'm basically just a normal guy. You know, I'm part of the security team at my church.
Starting point is 01:35:31 And, you know, other than that, I'm a pretty normal guy. I've got a wife and a son, and that's about it. Well, that's cool. And the stuff you cover on your show? Yeah, the stuff I cover on my show, usually it involves gear. It involves gunsmithing. It involves tactical stuff. It could be movement.
Starting point is 01:35:52 It could be gear items. It could be a vehicle. It could be all kinds of different stuff. And gunsmithing. Yeah. Well, of course, gunsmithing stuff. Hey, we're working on a project right now to get Dane. Now, this is a little tease, okay?
Starting point is 01:36:08 So it's still in the planning stages, very basic. But to get Dane to do an AR-15 build class. Okay, over the internet, it'll be a very limited, small class. You sign up for the class, you get the toolkit that you'll need for the build class, and then you sign in to the class, you'll get to see Dane do it, you know, step by step, and you'll have a chat room to be able to ask questions, something like that. Did I get that right, Dane? Yeah, you got that right.
Starting point is 01:36:49 Yep, we're in the planning stages at the moment. But once it's all said and done, you know, we'll get the information out there. Yeah, and he'll announce it on his show. And, of course, I'll plug it. And then, you know, we'll have it all over prep or broadcasting. So stay tuned for that. I'm sure that's going to be a sellout. Hey, we got to cover a couple things that I always do each week before we get into the meat of the stew here,
Starting point is 01:37:16 the potatoes, meat and potatoes. So I always do news. And some things that happened this week, oh, well, you know, the big news, right? The government shut down. Do you feel any different, Dane? Yeah, man, I feel like my cheese isn't going to arrive in the mail like it usually does. Yeah, I've seen absolutely no impact in my life.
Starting point is 01:37:43 And the longer the government shuts down, the more money, we'll save, I'm sure. Yeah. But that was the big news. Hey, did you know that I talked about last week when Hawaii sent out that missile warning by mistake that two days later, Japan did the same thing? Oh. Yes.
Starting point is 01:38:08 It's like everybody has their finger on this button for this message to be sent out, and everybody's like on edge. I don't know what caused that, but the one in Hawaii, they're still looking at their procedures and all that kind of crap. Sounds like they need to. The flu is in big swing all across the United States.
Starting point is 01:38:30 It's so bad in California that they're not even letting you into the hospitals. If you have the flu, they're setting up tents outside to keep flu people out of the hospitals and infecting the rest of the hospital. So the flu is running rampant through the United States. The death rate is not as big as normal years, but we're only
Starting point is 01:38:51 halfway through the season right now. Let's see, money is no good in Venezuela anymore. So that's interesting. And yeah, this came up this past week in the news. Dave, did you know that Sweden dust off a Cold War brochure pamphlet? And they updated it and sent 3.7 million of these out to their residents on how to prepare for war. Really? Yeah. That is really interesting. I know.
Starting point is 01:39:31 The country that remained neutral all during World War II is now telling their people, get ready. You know, Russia is coming. It's about to get real, huh? I guess. I mean, do you do stuff. Is Sweden the ones that like everybody there is militia, everyone there is trained? Yes. Just like Israel?
Starting point is 01:39:53 Yes. And that's part of the reason Nazi Germany did not go in there. They knew that they'd be fighting the whole population, so they didn't even try. And they're telling their people get ready. Interesting. Yeah. Wow. Hey, now I always do a little funny story or a joke.
Starting point is 01:40:19 You know, I was an Army instructor for over three years, and before we taught a class, we always told a joke or something, get everybody relaxed. So I have all these jokes stuck up in my head, and they're divided up into categories. So this is dentist jokes. Okay, dentist jokes. So this lady goes into the dentist's office.
Starting point is 01:40:43 And she's in the chair. And the dentist is doing the exam. He says, well, ma'am, you have a cavity, and we're going to have to drill. She says, oh, oh, my gosh, I hate that. That's the worst in the world. That is the worst. I just hate that. I'd rather have a baby than do that.
Starting point is 01:41:03 He says, well, let me know now I have to adjust the chair. Okay, okay, this lady goes to the dentist's office. And she starts taking off all her clothes. and the dentist says, Lady, lady, I'm a dentist. She says, yeah, I know. She keeps taking off her clothes. He says, lady, lady, oh my God, I am a dentist.
Starting point is 01:41:25 She says, yeah, I know. And she keeps stripping. Finally, he says, lady, I am a dentist. She gets completely naked and gets up in the chair. He says, oh, my God, I'm a dentist lady. She says, yeah, I know. I want these two pulled and this one filled. Hey, this is great.
Starting point is 01:41:50 I might have you on every week. I've got a live soundtrack here. I just have never heard that one. That was really good, man. Oh, man, that was good. Yeah, a little naughty, but you know, you can fill in your own blanks there. Yeah. Zibeth there, she says it's a little bit naughty.
Starting point is 01:42:14 So I have to apologize up front. I think I am getting the flu, but my wife swung into action and she has me heavily medicated. So I'm either going to fall asleep during the show or right now I got the jitters. So I think I have too much medication. I don't know what's going on. And we're going to take a quick commercial break here in just a couple minutes because what we have to cover tonight is so much that we will not get. get through it all. Dane and I already know we're not going to get through it all. So the rest of the show will be filled in on Thursday night on Dane's show. And what time is that Dane?
Starting point is 01:43:00 That is 7 o'clock Pacific and 9 o'clock Eastern, I believe. Okay. So if you want to hear the second half of what we're going to give tonight, you've got to tune in Thursday night. And this is basically what we're going to do is travel to like a supply point and then travel back. And it's all the considerations that you need to do to make that move safely, securely, and effective. Okay. And we'll set up a little scenario to where you're traveling to.
Starting point is 01:43:34 It's not going to be Walmart. Okay. But there is in my vicinity here what is located on the top of the, graphical map a radio tower. And because last week we did scavenging, and boy, I'll tell you, you got to Google that show, you got to play that show because we picked that abandoned house clean. We even took the copper pipes out of this house, okay? There was nothing left in that house.
Starting point is 01:44:07 But we're going to travel to this radio tower and back. You know, radio tower may have batteries in it. It might have a backup generator. might have some fuel, and we're going to go there with a group of people and then come back. So we're going to cover all this on the remainder of this show and Dane's show on Thursday night. Right now we're going to take a quick commercial break, and when we come right back, we're going to jump right into it. Oh. It shouldn't be all about outdoor survival.
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Starting point is 01:46:13 Excellent. I love it when it. plan comes together. Okay, Hannibal. So, yeah. So here, I forgot to mention that our good friend, Alan Riggs, is in the chat room right now. He's the G-Mag charger guy in the chat room. He offers a 15% discount right now on your entire order at greenevated.com.
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Starting point is 01:47:12 Thanks, Alan. Okay, let's get started on the meet. So you are inside your personal green zone, and you have your group, and you're assembled, and you want to go to this radio tower, and you want to check it out, and bring back, you want to scavenge it, and bring back all the crap that you could possibly need. Now, you have been in your green zone for months. You know, your group is developed, and you're ready to go on in a, excursion. Now, this shouldn't be the first time you've set foot outside your area. So you guys
Starting point is 01:47:48 pretty much know the drill on how you move and what you move. So this is a specific mission that you're going to go on. So you want to cover all the aspects of the mission and brief everybody up on their positions, on their duties, what each person's going to do at their location, what each person is going to do on their way back and everybody needs to know everybody else's job. And like I said in the movement class, the smallest group you should ever move with is two people. Because if one person gets hurt, at least the other person can help them. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:34 If you're doing this solo, wow, you're really out there. I mean, your butt is in the wind. Yeah. So let's talk about some of the things that you want to do in prepping up for your trip. Okay, you want to do a thorough map recon. So you're looking at all the terrain, all the features like water, okay? And you'd want to set up checkpoints. Okay, now checkpoints are the places that you live.
Starting point is 01:49:08 you will cross on your trip to and your trip back and a checkpoint is something that you call in back to your green zone okay to let them know that you've made it this far and they can plot you on the map okay so you want you want several copies of this map okay you're not going to take just one copy with you and you're not going to leave just one copy back at the headquarters you're going to have several copies. So they'll be able to follow your progression all along the way. If something would happen and they lose radio contact or whatever, at least they know where you reported in last. So that's the important of a checkpoint. And a rally point are places that you're going to stop. I mean, you'll stop along the way. People get their bearings. They'll, you know, pick asthmus,
Starting point is 01:50:05 shoot a better asthma, things like that. But, These are actually planned stops. Okay, and it might be at a source of water. Okay, so this is a difference between rally points and checkpoints. And, of course, you want a rally point close to your destination, but not right on your destination. Close enough that you could observe this radio tower and make sure there's no one there, right?
Starting point is 01:50:36 Right. and then plan out how you're going to go into the radio tower and take the stuff that you need. And you'd want to do security for that all along the way. Makes sense. Yeah. You might even want to do what they call a sand table. And a sand table is like a model.
Starting point is 01:50:58 Okay, so you set up a model, this is inside your green zone. This is all part of your preparation. you set up a model of what the radio tower looks like if someone has been there they have good intelligence about it but if they haven't you would set it up the way it looks on the map elevation and everything and then tell each person what they're going to do when they get to the radio tower
Starting point is 01:51:23 you know work it out that way visually you want to start putting together a package list. So this is all the things that you need to pack and take with you. And when I talked about my movement class, I talked about, you know, if you have a drone, a drone, how about that? Oh, yeah. This would be a great way to look ahead and get information before you step into something.
Starting point is 01:51:59 Mm-hmm. rally points campsites camp you got to put together at one of your rally points if it's far enough away that you know you're going to spend the night you'd want to put that in there any kind of danger areas that you would cross and when you're looking at the terrain think about the people that you're going to take with you because you want to choose your team wisely, Grazapa. Very wise. Very wise.
Starting point is 01:52:35 Because you don't want to take someone that you're going to end up having to carry back. I have a question. Sure. Okay. You assemble a team to take with you on this movement,
Starting point is 01:52:49 this project, to go scavenge at this radio tower. Should you, being that you're going to check in with your H.Q or your green zone the entire way, should you put a backup team in place to come after you guys if you don't report in or just one or two people? Is that dumb or is that smart? Because you're the military guy here.
Starting point is 01:53:11 No, that is definitely smart. You need some kind of a quick reaction force. Okay? Yeah. You would designate before you leave, these guys will come if we need help. And those guys will be, you know, they'll be stripped. down, they'll be able to move quick and light, and they'll be able to come and help if you need help. And, you know, like a rescue team or a quick response team, that also leads me into running
Starting point is 01:53:42 passwords. You want to set up with your perimeter a running password that if they hear this password and someone running to the perimeter, you don't light them up, okay? Okay. Okay. so that you can get back through the perimeter really quick without getting shot. And it's for emergencies. So, you know, that means something really went wrong.
Starting point is 01:54:10 We had to run back to our green zone for help. And that's what the running password is. Yeah, so we're formulating our group. That's an excellent question, Dane. Something I wouldn't have covered. It's not in my notes. But yeah, you would want to have a quick response. team, two or three guys, just enough to help you out of a jam.
Starting point is 01:54:34 Maybe leave them with a vehicle so they can get to you even faster. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, I haven't talked much about vehicles because, you know, I'm all about EMP and vehicles aren't running, but you could have a vehicle. You know, you could have a mini bike or, you know, a four-wheeler or, or in my case, my diesel tractor. sure that you could get there quicker and pull something out of there quick and back yeah what about practice movements and stuff like that excellent yes you want to practice everything that you're doing your formation your spacing your jobs you want to practice all that inside your green zone
Starting point is 01:55:24 okay it's kind of like a rehearsal and you rehearse everybody's position before you get outside your perimeter. Work out any kinks or any bugs. And you know, once you get all your supplies, the shit that you're going to take with you, and you get it on your gear, jump up and down. See if it rattles. See if it shakes. Get that duct tape. Yep, battle rattle. Take it and tape it down. And if it's loose and it's flopping, it's going to get caught on every branch, every twig, you know, on the way there. So you want to tape all this down. You want to be able to jump up and down as silently as possible.
Starting point is 01:56:09 Yes. That makes sense. Yeah. Are you going to talk to us about the team that you're forming? Well, first I'm actually going to start off with talking about fitness. You know, fitness is important for that team. It's super important, especially in a griddown situation. It's got to be maintained and it's got to be worked on as often as possible.
Starting point is 01:56:34 I mean, you don't have to look like the tournament or anything, but you should be able to walk around town or your HQ or your green zone without huffing and puffing. And if you can't do that, you really shouldn't be on the scavenging team, the scavenging team or if you're a Star Trek fan, might be called the away team. Amen. Amen to that. You don't want to be part of this problem. You want to be part of a solution.
Starting point is 01:56:57 Yeah, exactly. And if anyone in the group has, you know, or in your group, not the team, but in your group, if anyone has physical limitations and, you know, motor skills like running or jumping or walking, numbness, nerve damage, anything like that, then they probably shouldn't be on this type of team. It doesn't mean they're useless. It just means that they shouldn't be on this type of team. You know, you need women and men that are in relatively good shape. And I say women and men because there are some women.
Starting point is 01:57:24 out there that can easily hold their own with men. Oh, absolutely. There's plenty of women can kick my ass. Same here, man. So, you know, you need people who can see, hear, communicate, although speech is not completely necessary, but the rest is. If possible, above most other attributes, you need team members who can think clearly when the crap is hitting the fan. You need people who understand that kind of.
Starting point is 01:57:54 stuff. So what I would do is I would look for the, you know, the previous mentioned attributes that I just talked about, but I would look to specifically bring, and let me know if you agree with this, I would look to specifically bring a medic, a navigator or a point man type person. Yes. What about a hunter slash tracker type person? Absolutely. Okay. And at least two trained soldiers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:25 Okay. I mean, it depends on the size of your group, you know, and maybe these specific skills lie with one person. You know, like you have a medic and a point man, although that would be kind of bad. You also want to rotate those jobs because, like I said, point man, it's the toughest. Yes. They're breaking the trail. They're the first, they're in maximum sensory input.
Starting point is 01:58:54 Okay. So they're constantly looking. They're constantly scanning. So their focus is always, always ahead and out. And you want to break that up because it's physically and mentally exhausting. How often would you break them up? Well, it depends upon the terrain and the people that you have. I mean, you put your strongest and best up there first.
Starting point is 01:59:23 you know and then whenever they get too tired or you see that they're tired you know it's not a time to be Rambo if you're tired say hey man rotate me out you know yeah I mean it's the safety of the whole group and if you're not at your 100% then then the group isn't at 100%. So rotate them out. Absolutely I agree although your opinion on this being a military man is absolutely imperative. So I was thinking about next going into what every team member should bring with them. Is that sound good? Yes.
Starting point is 02:00:05 Okay. And there's some things that everybody should have as a rule of thumb, like ammunition. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And then there's some things that are specific like the medical handle, you know, the more advanced first aid. Everybody should have some kind of first aid, you know, cut kit on them. Yeah, like an IFAC. Yeah, exactly. And then the medic would have the bigger things, maybe IV bag, if you have that kind of capabilities, you know, and your medic's in EMT or
Starting point is 02:00:40 something like that. Yeah, like a stomp bag or a squad kit. Absolutely. So go ahead. Yeah. Okay. Well, I mean, like you were saying, it would be the basics, but everyone on the team should bring the absolute basics along with defensive measures in case you come under attack. This includes a way to make fire like a bicklider or a ferro rod with a mag bar on it, a shelter of some sort, like a poncho, jungle hammock with a tarp. You should bring a metal canteen with a steel cup, you know, for purifying water over the fire, kunkie, simple tea and bullion cubes, things like that. you should bring some high-calorie energy bars or MREs, enough for the trip there and back. Maybe a few extra MREs in case you get stuck longer than you anticipated. Maybe a fixed blade, like a Mora companion,
Starting point is 02:01:32 probably a sidearm with at least three mags, and failing that, a main battle rifle with at least five, 20 to 30 round mags, of course, including the one in your gun. and your rifles and your pistols should be the same throughout the entire team if you can pull that off ammunition compatibility and mad compatibility
Starting point is 02:01:57 you agree with that absolutely you want to be able to interchange I taught the movement class for this one group and not any one of them had the same weapon I know and I showed them the obvious this fallacy in what they were thinking. Some guys had 300 black.
Starting point is 02:02:21 Some guys had 7.62. One guy, you know, a couple guys had 5.56. And at least they had the same animal. I don't think their magazines were the same. So they'd have to actually break it out of the magazine to put it in their magazine to continue to fire. Exactly. So, yeah, I mean, you know, your team should run the same
Starting point is 02:02:45 guns, but failing that, you should at least run the same mags. Like if you have an AR-15 and a Tivore, you know, you can still run the same mags. But failing that, all of that, you should at least be running the same calibers. Do you agree with that? Absolutely. At the minimum, the same calibers. And the Jones plan here at the Jones household, 9mm and 7.62. What? By 51? By 39? 308s. 308. Oh, okay. All right. It's the standard for the U.S. Army and, you know, a lot of armies around the world. Nine millimeters standard worldwide.
Starting point is 02:03:27 You could rob a NATO guy and get nine millimeter. Yep. Yep. That's a great caliber to have, especially for a grid-down situation. Yep. Any NATO caliber. Oh, yeah. And then the, I had the AR platform for, you know, parts.
Starting point is 02:03:45 It's just 7.62 because I like to reach out and touch someone. And the 9mm, I have the M9, you know, the Arbreda. Libreta, yeah. And I have two of those, one for me, one for my wife, interchangeable parts, interchangeable magazines. Two is one, one is none. Exactly. Yep, yep. So as far as clothing goes, my thoughts were.
Starting point is 02:04:13 to wear something like BDUs or maybe cargo pants. And maybe if you can do this, a simple like Mali battle belt, like the HSGI, what do they call that thing, the sure grip battle belt. Some people like to go with like the big Mali vest. But if you want to move quietly and quickly, you just go with a battle belt and put your magpatches around that and maybe a bigger backpack. But we'll talk about the whole backpack thing in a little bit here. And of course, you know, something like an IFAC on there.
Starting point is 02:04:43 You agree with that? Absolutely. Dang, you've done this before. No. This is great. You have thought this out. And camo up. I have this in bold.
Starting point is 02:04:55 Am I think? Camel up. You want chemo everywhere, face, hands, where you're going to be wearing gloves, you know, because everything wants to stick you out in the woods. So you want to wear gloves
Starting point is 02:05:09 and you want to be cameled up as you, as you can be. I tell people it's like turkey hunting. You want to be like that. So that if you drop down in the bush or in the grass, they might be able to say, huh, something there, but I can't tell what it is.
Starting point is 02:05:29 Yeah, I can't make it out. Yeah. Makes sense. And that actually brings me to the next thing that we were going to talk about, the backpack. Yes. You should try to bring a large pack. if you can. Otherwise, you won't be able to bring back all that much. If not that,
Starting point is 02:05:47 then maybe bring up like a roll-up duffel bag, maybe some dump pouches on the back of your belt, or even a couple large cinch bags. I'm sure everyone's seen those cinch bags these days. But each team members should carry no more than 20 to 25 pounds of gear, including everything that they have. And keep in mind that some of that's going to strip away while you're eating and drinking and, you know, certain things that you don't, you end up using along the way. So, you know, but, but would you, would you say 20, 25 pounds? Does that sound about right? Oh, yeah. Now, the practice inside your green zone, you put all your shit on and you walk around and you see if it rattles and you see where it falls. You know, if you can't get to your weapon,
Starting point is 02:06:36 that's a bad place for it. And you can't possibly carry enough. water. So you have to have some kind of water filtration or a way to get water on your way. So you start with a full canteen or two, you know, depending, and then you've got to get it along the way. And Dutchman came into the chat room. I'm keeping an eye on it trying to answer questions as we go. So you want to carry some parachute cord. So if nothing else, you can tie whatever it is on your back to carry it back. Oh, that's a good plan. Yeah, and, you know, like you said, the duffel bag and all that.
Starting point is 02:07:18 So because what you're scavenging, you want to be able to bring back. Or stage, if it's too big to carry back all at one time, stage it somewhere, bury it, you know, mark it on the map, go back with what you got and plan another trip. I agree, 100%. the next thing I actually was looking at is what each individual team member should carry. But the first thing I wanted to mention was if you can't get under the 20 to 25 pound limit, then strip away your handgun. You need your rifle.
Starting point is 02:07:58 You don't technically need your handgun. Would you agree with that? Well, yeah, because that's going to free up not any of your handgun, the extra ammo that you would take if your handguns a different caliber than your primary weapon. So, you know, you freed up a lot of weight
Starting point is 02:08:17 by doing that. Yep. Okay, so the things that I put and after I read the different things each team member should go with, I want your opinion on it. Sure. So the first thing, one team member needs to bring
Starting point is 02:08:33 a set of bolt cutters, a small pry bar and a good leatherman tool with built-in wire cutters. That's the first guy. Absolutely. Absolutely. See, because you're going to assume there's a fence around this thing with a lock, and you're going to assume the door is also locked. And if you get there, all you have is a rock, you're not going to be able to do much.
Starting point is 02:09:02 And you're going to say, shit, now we have to go back. The next one team members should probably bring some extra water in a camel backpack, like one of those 100-ounce camel backpacks, and some extra water purification tablets or water filtration gear. Absolutely. But everybody should have their filter straw. I mean, everybody. Hey, and since we're talking, well, keep going, keep going.
Starting point is 02:09:29 Okay. You've been great, Dane. I don't have to do much. I'm going to have you on my show more often. I also went with one or two team members should carry a bit of extra ammo for the team's rifles, at least two extra mags per person, and some camo netting for the staging you talked about. So if they have to cover up that item or the stuff that you bring, they can cover it up with camo netting. Yes.
Starting point is 02:09:55 I mean, if it's not going to put you over your weight limit, but let's talk about that extra ammo. It's something that the military does all the time, you know, because that ammo is here. heavy and I'm talking about your bigger weapons, your 7.62, the ones that are going to be placed out for security on your left and right flank, that guy can't carry all the ammo he may need. Okay? So you want to spread that out amongst your group. Yeah. Oh yeah, that's a good point. That's a very good point. Spread out that extra ammo among your group. That's a good point. Yeah. Okay, so the other one, I got two more. The Point Man and the medic. The Point Man, I said, should be as light as possible and have maps and at least two compasses on him. Do you agree with that? Listen, if everybody don't have a compass, there's something wrong. You have to have to have. If you got cut off for your group, right?
Starting point is 02:10:55 Bobbed him to know where he's going again. God forbid. You move out, it's dark, they left someone. He's cut off. Does he go for him? or does he go back? Bob lost again. I would say go back because it's easier finding your home base than it is to find the rest of the guys somewhere in the woods. So. Okay. And the last one I had was the medic. The medic should carry the squad kit and a couple extra tourniquets
Starting point is 02:11:24 on top of the other gear that he's going to be carrying anyway. Oh my God, yes. And a tourniquet, these new rubber tourniquets, they, everybody should have one of them. Swatis. Exactly. If something would happen, you'd want to be able to put a tourniquet on yourself before, you know, the medic even showed up. You've got to be able to render first aid to yourself quickly.
Starting point is 02:11:55 It's the number one thing that kept our military. why we had so many casualties and not so many deaths in this last war. The military went so far as to try and build tourniquets into the uniforms themselves so that you could just pull it. Yeah, just pull it tight. I mean, it was experimental. I don't think it ever went forward. But think about that.
Starting point is 02:12:25 If you had a turniquet on your legs, on each leg, and on your arms, and if you got hit, you just yanked that sucker as hard as you could, and you'd stop the bleeding. Yeah, I remember reading about an electronic system they were working with, too, that was going to monitor blood pressure and automatically kick in a tourniquet like a blood pressure cuff if the blood pressure dropped too low and turnic it off wherever it was bleeding. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:50 Isn't that interesting? That was in that combat suit. Yeah, that was in the suit, yeah. Yeah, yeah. This was, they were, they were going to actually incorporate it into like the BDUs, you know, right at your femoral and right at your, what is it, carotid. Brachial? Carotid. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:10 Oh, brachio, I think is your neck. That's your bicep, right? Oh, yeah. Brecule, yeah. Yeah. I was thinking of subclavian. Never on. Oh, yeah, yeah, subclavian.
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Starting point is 02:15:20 Well, you know, some of the stuff, some of the stuff we've already covered in tactical movement, but it doesn't hurt to review, like these formations that you are talking about. Right. You know, in my tactical movement class, I cover two formations, basically because they're the simplest, and they're the ones most use, which is the file formation, which is a simple line, and the V formation, which is an upside-down V, and you just move. move through a wedge, you know, wedge face. And each one, you have to spread out, you know,
Starting point is 02:15:59 five to ten meters, depending on the terrain. If it's thick terrain, you close it up. If it's wide open, you spread it out. And basically, so that's everybody don't get shot with one bullet. You know, it's, it's funny you mentioned the wedge formation because that's the one that I picked, you know, for our movement too, is the wedge formation and possibly, you know, either the line or the column formation and maybe even falling back to the diamond depending on, you know, what's going on. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:30 Now, the diamond formation is like two Vs put together, and it's for maximum security. Right. It is very difficult to pull off well. Because you think about those guys in the bottom part of the V,
Starting point is 02:16:46 they're looking backwards and moving forwards. Oh, yeah. So it's hard. I mean, it's maximum security. If you think there's people moving around you, you would want to form the diamond. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Now, when we're considering how we're going to move and in what formation, do we or do we not need to consider the METTC principles? Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:17:14 You're the military man. What does METC stand for? Mission time. Oh man, you're really taxing my memory here now. Mission time. What do we got? We got mission, time, terrain, right? Enemy.
Starting point is 02:17:34 Enemy. Enemy. Troops available and civilian considerations, right? Yes. So all those things have to be considered, right? Yeah, absolutely. And this is part of your planning process. So in your planning process, you will consider
Starting point is 02:17:52 all of this stuff. I mean, you look at the terrain, you look at the type of mission that you're going to do, which is, you know, scavenge, supply run. And you look at all these considerations for your planning purpose. Hey, and you were talking about a tracker. Yeah. And that is very, very important. Someone that has hunted or no signs, okay, you can, you can't move through a wooded area and not leave some kind of sign. Very true. So as your group goes through, you are going to break leaves, leave footprints. God forbid you'd leave any trash, but you might drop something by accident.
Starting point is 02:18:41 And this all tells someone else that's coming behind you that there's people up ahead. And if you get a really good tracker, they'll tell you how many people. Oh yeah, easily Yeah, they can look at the size of the wedge And tell you about how many people made this And if you have that kind of guy He's not going to let you get in trouble And how much weight they're carrying all that stuff
Starting point is 02:19:07 Exactly He can tell you if you run across signs of people traveling You know, you may not be the first person To know about this radio station tower and someone may have already been there ahead of you or may still be there using it for shelter. So that person is very important, someone that has hunted and can look for signs.
Starting point is 02:19:35 So I have a thing here. Now, I've been taught that the wedge formation is best used when you're going into something unknown, but that you should keep your team members no less than 10 meters apart. Is that true or have you been taught differently? Well, no. No, that's the one that you use most for movement.
Starting point is 02:19:56 And the distance between your team meters will depend upon terrain, you know, and fall in and stuff like that. So you spread out if it's more open and you contract if it's more, you know, brush. If you can't see the guy. And God forbid, don't. unless you're very, very good. Don't do this at night. Oh, that makes sense.
Starting point is 02:20:23 Now, no matter what formation you choose, you should probably stay within sight or at least hearing distance of each other because some of your men may not be trained soldiers and you don't want the whole blue-on-blue thing, right? No, definitely not. And you don't want to get out of sight of each other. Okay, so that's why I say, unless you're very, very good,
Starting point is 02:20:46 don't do this at night. Would you go with one lead element or multiple lead elements? No. You know, I mean, there's sometimes, you know, you've seen some formations where there's two lead elements, you know. Right. Would you go with just one? The wedge is one, right? Right.
Starting point is 02:21:03 And that's when you have a lot of people. Okay, assuming, so that first lead element would naturally go across any booby traps or come in contact first. and the second lead element would come around and bail them out. So that's the reason behind that. I'm assuming no one in listening has so many people in their group that they could form something like this. That's a good point. And actually, we just got a really good question in the chat room.
Starting point is 02:21:36 You see that from My Gray there? How do you overnight in a position? Same formation? You're the military guy. Tell us. That's great. and I was going to cover this. I just didn't know when we get to it.
Starting point is 02:21:47 So as you're moving along your path, your trail, and, you know, Murphy's Law, it took you twice as long to get to that point as you had planned. What you want to do is what they call a button hook. Okay, so you want to turn left or turn right, depending on the train, move about 100 meters, and then go back along the path,
Starting point is 02:22:13 that you came from. So you do a button hook. And what this does, if anybody is following you, they're following your trail, they will follow right past you, okay, and you will get some warning.
Starting point is 02:22:32 And you'll be able to haul ass or light them up or, you know, get out of there. And then when you stop, when you do that button hook thing and you stop, you set up security, security 360 degrees.
Starting point is 02:22:47 Okay, you make a little bubble. And then, you know, you might have, you can't have everybody stay up all night. So you have 50% security or maybe two, you know, depending upon your group, how big your group is, maybe just two guys. 25% security. Yeah. Two guys stay up and they look and listen for anybody following. because it would be a natural thing that if you come across someone
Starting point is 02:23:16 has broke fresh trail, you follow where they're going, what they're doing. Now, with the two guys that are going to be awake and listening, how far away from the camp would those two guys be sitting, waiting and listening,
Starting point is 02:23:29 from where you guys are bedded down? Well, so they're not really away from the camp. They are part of the perimeter. So as you make that circle, You put the guys that's closest to your trail. Those are the guys that are going to stay up and listen first. And you might rotate other guys into that position. So you're about, you know, 100 yards away from your trail.
Starting point is 02:23:59 And 100 yards might seem like a lot in the woods, but you'll be able to hear if anybody's following you. And if they're using flashlights or something like that, you'll be able to see them. Way to go. Good light discipline. Exactly. Maybe we should talk about that. You only have flashlights with you as an absolute emergency. Okay. Hopefully you're doing this move. First of all, it's going to be daylight.
Starting point is 02:24:29 Secondly, if you get caught out after dark and you have to spend the night, if you don't have a moon, you don't have hope. That's true. Just sit down and wait till time. dawn. You know, another thing that I've been told is to when you're moving in a post-apocalyptic
Starting point is 02:24:51 world, not that a lot of people have done this, but you have to treat your surroundings like you're moving behind enemy lines because in that world you kind of are no matter where you're at unless you're in your green zones. Would you agree? It's part of my assumptions. It's part of my four basic, two of my four basic
Starting point is 02:25:07 assumptions are, first of all, that everybody has more firepower than you. Secondly, everybody wants whatever you have. So those two assumptions right there will let you know, hey, I, A, should never be seen, or B, if I am seen, get out, get away as fast as possible. That makes sense. Hey, and night vision. Absolutely. If you have night vision, you would definitely want to give those guys the guys that are staying up the night vision yep Pauline dutton mentioned that and and you rotate those guys and the reason you have two is in case one guy should accidentally fall asleep so rotate guys out no more than two hours on a shift
Starting point is 02:26:01 at least everybody can get four hours a shut-eye and and you would be amazed at how much four what you do for you, especially when you're high on a drone. Oh, yeah. I know emergency room physicians that only do four hours a night. Yeah. You know, so it makes a lot of sense. Now, there's something that we talked about before. I don't know how much time we have left, what, maybe five minutes, a few minutes? Yeah, a little bit.
Starting point is 02:26:31 Yeah, about five minutes. Okay, so one thing that we need to talk about, too, is how you travel each length. leg of the journey is probably going to depend on the size of the group. You know, a larger element may require a few vehicles, you know? And the vehicles bring advantages with them, but they also bring disadvantages. Would you agree with that? Yes. Vehicles of third world countries, countries are at war, vehicles automatically draw fire.
Starting point is 02:27:05 Yes, they do. So if it's the fastest and only thing, that's moving, people are going to shoot at it. So you don't want everybody in the vehicle. You would want some people, if you only got one vehicle, you'd want some people trailing the vehicle, okay? And maybe you're taking the vehicle because whatever it is you want to bring back needs to fit in the vehicle.
Starting point is 02:27:27 True that. So, yeah. So, you know, they come with their own set of problems and solutions. Yeah, I mean, you can carry a lot more stuff, you know, but you're louder. Right. Absolutely. Especially my diesel tractor. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:27:45 And I mean, you've got more survival gear in a larger group that can keep you more secure versus vehicular maintenance and gasoline considerations and so on and so forth. Yes. Okay. So those are things that we would definitely have to keep in mind as far as a vehicular transport would probably go. Would you agree with that? Absolutely. And we got the three-minute warning from GM.
Starting point is 02:28:09 man. Okay. So what do you want to end with here? What do you think? Well, we did not get exactly to our spot, but we got pretty much through our first night. Yeah, the first night. And remember that if you have to spend the night, you want to get up before dawn, get everything packed, and as soon as there's enough light that you can see to move, move. Move. I agree 100% Yeah So two minute warning from G man You know what
Starting point is 02:28:47 This has been great And this hour has flown by Dane It sure has man This has been so fun Yeah you've got to do more of this Now everybody that's listening You got to tune in Thursday night
Starting point is 02:29:01 At what time? 7 o'clock Pacific or 9 o'clock Eastern Okay So you can pick up We're going to pick up right where we left off and I have it in my notes right here, so we're not going to miss a thing. You will not miss a thing. And I'm sure that we'll probably come up with things that we miss during this hour.
Starting point is 02:29:22 So you definitely want to tune in next week. There, G-Man put it in the chat room. Hey, and don't forget to check out greenovative.com. My good buddy, Alan Riggs, invented this device that recharges rechargeable batteries from salt water. And he's given you a 15% discount. The discount is called Jones 15. Okay. It's a must have future shows I got coming up some great shows. Dang, I didn't even talk about those. I scored an interview with a three-time bestselling author, Tim McWelch, and you're going to hear that next weekend. We're going to have RSDL Rebecca Fish. He's the vice president for sales
Starting point is 02:30:09 and marketing for emergent biotechnology. She's going to be on. And I have a future show with disaster preparedness expert, Eve Gonzalez. She has been to every disaster on the planet for the past 10 years, okay? And she will tell you what you need to know. coming up I got the North American sales rep from BioLite. This is an actual camp stove that generates electricity. It's pretty amazing.
Starting point is 02:30:46 And he's got a special deal for everybody, too. Okay, thanks, everybody. Tune in Thursday night for Part 2. We'll see you, Dane. Thanks for coming on. You're welcome. Today's broadcast has come to you through the courtesy of the Prepper Broadcast. Network. See our hosts, show schedules, archive programs, and more at Prepper Broadcasting.com. Thanks for listening.
Starting point is 02:31:50 Survival simulation. This is Gotham. PBN family. Gotham Get Up. Intrepid commander hidden in a little marsh off the back of the shopping center. You know, spending this little bit of time in the dark of night in the suburbs has largely, largely, largely. It made me aware of something I already knew, and that was the fact that nobody's paying attention to shit anymore. I thought the cash was under Overwatch because we had been here earlier. But the truth of the matter was, it was just some dude in his truck staring at his phone. Would you be surprised to find that out? No.
Starting point is 02:32:53 So what I want to do now is I want to go through what's in this cash. I've been collecting stuff lots. I got a whole onion. I'll eat that thing. Truth of the matter is, PBN family, as beautiful as this cash is, I ain't even remotely hungry. I got some delicious sliced... What do these call? Toastatus?
Starting point is 02:33:24 No. God, I used to make these in the restaurant industry all the time. Toasted sliced bread, basically. You know, crostata. I got a Milky Way. Are you kidding me? A Milky Way? And then I got an enormous bag.
Starting point is 02:33:42 Oh my God, there's so much stuff in these caches. Holy shit, I had no clue. There was so much stuff in them. What am I going to do with all this stuff? Is this what I think it is? There's no way. There is absolutely no way. There is no way.
Starting point is 02:34:03 Okay. I didn't think so. Dave's got a giant coffee can in here. He's messing with me. It's not coffee. It's other things. There's all kinds of shit in here. Oh my God.
Starting point is 02:34:20 Window and door replacement hardware. All right. This gigantic bag is beautiful And the good news is I'm at a donation site So anything I don't need I can take right over to the donation box And do away with it I found some cool stuff on the way though
Starting point is 02:34:41 I'm almost remiss to part with it I found a license plate I found some good wood Goof Heavy Duty Remover Is this flammable? I don't know I don't know if this stuff's flammable or not Let's see, highly flammable? Yes or no?
Starting point is 02:35:02 Caution. Fire. I'll just say. I can't really see too good. I'm not something I want to do. I just blew up my light discipline too right there. Oh, no way. No way.
Starting point is 02:35:22 They packed a life straw in here. Does this thing work? Oh, God, that's almost too easy. That must have been from Maria. What we got? Oh, we got a lot of cordial doing this bag of as well. This is sort of like window replacement stuff. Got a glass.
Starting point is 02:35:45 bottle in here, paper brush. A multi-tool holder. I did not expect these to be so packed. Tether. What is this? I have to make a pile here of things that I definitely don't need. Things I'll take further inspection on. This pillow is so, I mean, this bag is so nice, it looks exactly like a pillow. And warmers, really? They can't be real. What's this? Little wire. I'm going to keep this little wire just for me, even. I guess you can never have enough tape, right? We've got tape, we got, what is this thing?
Starting point is 02:36:49 Oh, it's a bike brake system. Dave really did it good, man. He really did it good. He did a great job. Wow. Aqua spec temp guard, metal trim, letter etching. No, that's metal. All right, listen, PBM family.
Starting point is 02:37:19 This thing is so full of stuff, it's unreal. The truth of the matter is, there are some things in here that I really want, really bad, and there are some things in here that I'm not interested in having. This is an ace bandage? So what I'm going to do, well, let me talk to you a little bit about what I'm keeping, because that probably is of value, right? I'm looking for cordage.
Starting point is 02:37:47 What I have in mind here is pretty straightforward. Anything to make fire. Anything to make shelter easier. Okay? That's really where my head is right now. If I can make shelter with it, if I can make fire with it, I'm happy. Truth of the matter is, in all that we've been doing, in all that we've been doing thus far, it's been beautiful out.
Starting point is 02:38:17 The walking, the hiking and all that is hardly warm me out. Not even close, actually. We've got a brillo pad here. And I have to imagine that the reason we have a brillo pad is because somebody's going to get a 9-volt battery. This is actually a steel wall, so I don't know. I've never done that before. Pine...
Starting point is 02:38:48 Oh, God. Dave Jones, you are something. Pinewood, D. Derby wheels and axles. Now are these wood or are these plastic though? That I don't know. It contains four racing wheels and axles. I imagine pine wood, they look plastic actually. It's a cool container though. I'm in the dark so it's really hard for me to see what I'm doing here. Trying to stay out of everybody's view, you know. It's too nice this little back, this bag. I don't know if I have room to fit it in my backpack, though. All right, I've got to go through
Starting point is 02:39:53 these things, okay? I will see you guys soon. Cash one has been found. I have not yet been found. That's a gift, and I'm going to be moving on soon to Cash 2. All right, Gotham Get Out, baby. I hope you're having fun. See it. Self-reliance is an independent of the Pepper Broadcasting Network. We have to hit the reset button and create a true culture of preparedness, starting at a very young age and filtering all the way up. Hello everyone and welcome to the Next Generation Show, where we delve deeper into the little things in life. Here we explore the lost art of fatherhood, parenthood, and fundamental preparedness
Starting point is 02:41:35 for the world today. I'm your host, Ryan Buford, along with my co-host, young Master Colin, and today we're broadcasting from the heart of the Pacific Northwest. We thank you for joining us, and there's not a moment to lose, so let's dig right in. First off, for those of you who are out there listening to the podcast, we thank you for the support. Come on over if you get a chance and join us during a live chat by going to Prepperbroadcasting.com during any of the live shows. Our show is live every Tuesday night from 6 p.m. to 7 p.m. Pacific time. So I guess check that with your own time zone and see where you land.
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Starting point is 02:44:27 And we hope that we're bringing you some good content here on the Prepper Broadcasting Network. So today, we're going to be talking about building a bugout vehicle from scratch. And I think, you know, a lot of people, I think when I wrote the show description for today's show, I pretty much said that, hey, you know, bug out vehicles are sexy. I mean, they just are. The whole idea of having your own separate vehicle that can go anywhere, do anything, start every time, you know, and always be there and never fail, right? And I think anybody who's even sat behind a car, either where you were driving by or where you were,
Starting point is 02:45:11 I mean, you kind of know what it means to be that guy. And what do I mean by this? That guy. When you're driving down the road and you look out and you see the guy with his hood up, head in, and passengers are frustrated and uncomfortable either in the car or out of the car. You know, and you kind of drive by and say, yeah, it sucks to be that guy. Well, I think all of us, the majority of us as adults have a that. guy story and I've had several of them probably the most recent one was when I was heading
Starting point is 02:45:49 I was heading to Missoula Montana for a 4th of July weekend and in order to get to Missoula Montana it required that I go over two different passes a 4th of July pass which is kind of ironic and lookout pass which is on the border of the Idaho Montana line and and we were going up, we were in my car, which is a four-door passenger sedan, and we had the air conditioning on, middle of summer, beautiful day, couldn't ask for more, going uphill, and there was a line of, there was construction that they were doing on the road, and they had narrowed the lanes down to one lane, both directions, up and down this pass. and then all of a sudden I start seeing a light flicker like a check engine light and my radiator light comes on and it goes from orange to red
Starting point is 02:46:51 and then next thing I know I'm starting to to pull over because I have no options at this point I shut off the air conditioner I'm trying to baby it as much as I can just so I don't blow it up and open the hood and it's just steaming out the hood and I'm like, oh great, now what? So here we are.
Starting point is 02:47:18 And at this particular holiday, I think Colin was out camping. And so it was just me and my spouse at the time, and we had taken our dogs. Well, I had a gallon of water in the back. So I went ahead and put the water into the reservoir, hoping that it would help to try because I was losing coolant out of somewhere, and I knew that at least if I got water in there would help. So I go and I'm like, okay, I turn the car back on, and it seemed the light goes off, and I'm like, okay, I think we might have made it,
Starting point is 02:47:54 go up a little bit farther, and it happens again. And I just happen to catch a pull out. And when the light goes on and I was like, nope, I can't make it any farther. and there's just a line of cars behind me and a line of cars in front of me, and this is my only opportunity to pull over. So I pulled over and come to find out this particular vehicle had issues with the coolant reservoir tank blowing up, basically, and under high pressure, it formed a crack and blew out all the coolant.
Starting point is 02:48:26 Here we are in the middle of summer. On top of a mountain pass, I don't know if I mentioned this, but I was actually going up to pass. And the vehicle began overheating, so I was pretty much stranded. There was nothing I could do because one of the things that I had read about it is if this vehicle starts to overheat, you have to pull over immediately, or it'll blow up basically internally. It'll pretty much destroy itself. So I pull over, and, you know, here we are, me and my spouse and our dogs at the side of the road.
Starting point is 02:49:03 And we had some preps on hand, you know, because we were planning to go on a vacation. You know, we had a little bit of food and we had, you know, all the clothes that we needed, you know, a couple of dog beds. And eventually, I had, I mean, there was nothing I could do that. I had no tools that could fix it. So we had to call for a tow truck. And here we are on the side of the road on a holiday weekend waiting for a tow that was going to be at least two to three hours out. and mind you there was one lane of traffic in either direction that he was going to have to fight through
Starting point is 02:49:37 plus try and find me on the side of the road so it started I mean and then we're in the middle of the summer so it's hot out and I started to realize that we're quickly running out of water and shade and part of the reason we ran out of water was because I dumped the gallon of water that I had as a spare into my cooling tank my my coolant reservoir so my backup water had been depleted and i'm on the mountain top with no source
Starting point is 02:50:07 for water nearby and um no way to to get my car anywhere so i'm pretty much just stranded there until the tow truck showed up to save us right so eventually tow truck comes up save us um an hour or two later uh you know the dogs are just dying in the heat and uh you know about two thousand dollars later i realized that I just paid for an education that I obviously didn't get right in the first place because I left myself stranded and my family stranded in a situation that we should have never been in in the first place. And a big part of that was because I was unable to take care of the problem myself. So this is my that guy story, and I'm sure most of you other have one.
Starting point is 02:50:54 In my situation, my car was actually too new. It was too compact. Everything was so tight inside the motor that I couldn't hardly even reach anything, even if I had the tools to work on it. It was too low to the ground, so I could hardly even see what was going on. But hey, it looked nice from the street, right? You know, it's a little bit of eye candy. But the epic fail, or I guess that it kind of was, you know, an epic fail, as Colin might say.
Starting point is 02:51:23 And I think it's fair to say that on more than one occasion, I've been stranded as a result of a motor vehicle failure. And some of you might be wondering, you know, what does this have to do with prepping? Is this an auto show or is this prepping? You know, what are we actually on about? Well, I thought we were talking about bug out vehicles. Well, actually, all of these three things are tied in together.
Starting point is 02:51:46 And on today's show, Kohn and I are going to be revealing a new long-term project that we're going to be taking on, which is to build a bulletproof bugout vehicle, you know, metaphorically speaking. that can be as versatile and hardy as possible, and that we can fix and take care of and understand inside and out, in addition to all the reasons for doing so, so that we don't have to be that guy next time around. But first, before we get into the firing up the engines on this show,
Starting point is 02:52:19 Colin, would you like to share your fun fact of the week? Yo, yo, yo, fellow listeners. I am the co-host of the Next Generation Show. Colin Buford, speaking with my father and the host of the show, Ryan. Today we're going to be going through reasons we chose to go with our soon-to-be bug-out vehicle. But before we get too far into that, I'd like to quickly cover the CraftyColon Fun Fact of the Week. For those of you who aren't aware of the Craft & Cool and Fun Fact of the Week, it's a segment on our show that gives you a fun tidbit of information of something that's usually related to the show topic.
Starting point is 02:52:58 some of you might have already known and some of you might have had no clue so without any further ado let's get right into it today's craft call and fun fact of the week is the man who invented cruise control was blind
Starting point is 02:53:12 his name was Ralph Titor yeah his name was Ralph Titor and he became blind at the age of five in an accident and didn't specify what accident but it wouldn't surprise me if it was a car accident wow that's crazy never knew that.
Starting point is 02:53:31 So there you have it. What can I say? That's why I'm here. Yeah. Another essential trivia fact that you guys will be able to handle. Okay. So here we go. On with the show.
Starting point is 02:53:44 Building a bug out vehicle from scratch. So the first thing that we, obviously, the vehicle that I described earlier in the show is the same daily driver that I've been using for years. But I've since changed locations and I now live out in the country. And that vehicle no longer suits me because I live on a dirt road and I've had some challenges as a result of having a small sedan in a country setting. It's fairly obvious, but it's definitely something that I wasn't able to really change at the time. Part of me also wanted to make sure that I had a backup vehicle. And we can get into some of the alternatives of having a backup vehicle and, you know, we'll get into that a little bit later in the show.
Starting point is 02:54:29 but essentially we wanted to get into the basics of starting us from scratch so the first thing we want to identify is what do we need what are the actual limitations that we're up against and what do we need what are the challenges that we're facing so you want to approach a bugout vehicle in the same way that you might approach you know a natural disaster preparedness you want to find out what's going to be impacting your area or your region or what's supposed to be specifically you're working on or with. So, um, we needed a solution for a couple of different things. One of them is, there have been occasions where I've gotten stuck in snowdrifts in the wintertime simply because I didn't have enough ground clearance.
Starting point is 02:55:16 Uh, my car is a four-wheel drive, but it still didn't hack it. Uh, you know, when you get, you know, one or two or eight feet of snowdrifts, there's only so much you can do.
Starting point is 02:55:26 Um, but there were more than one occasions this win. where another truck was able to get through because it had a higher level of ground clearance, whereas even with that other vehicle getting through and paving the way, it's still left too much for me to try and shove out of the way. So it wasn't happening. Another thing that we face here are the potential for wildfires.
Starting point is 02:55:47 And so we want to make sure that we have a vehicle that can access and or navigate terrain in a wildfire, which might be just exposed fields. or empty fields or, you know, maybe a yard or a ditch bank or something like that so that we can get around. So ground clearance, something that can get around and hauled during wildfire season to be able to get either our gear or our supplies or our family or whatever out all at once so that we're not trying to race around and, you know, pick and choose what we can take. We know what we need. We can pack it right in the back and go.
Starting point is 02:56:24 So another thing that I like to keep in mind is the potential for getting around other traffic in a disaster. I've seen this firsthand when I was stuck on a freeway and you know, you'd have bumper to bumper traffic. And you look behind you in your rear view mirror and here's all these four-wheel drive pickup trucks that some folks are talking about in the chat room that are just pretty much going off the side of the road and buy. bombing around until they get to the nearest off ramp. Might be two or three miles ahead, but, you know, they can handle that kind of terrain, whereas a low-centered vehicle or a vehicle with a low center of gravity and a low ground clearance isn't going to make it. It just won't work.
Starting point is 02:57:12 Another thing that I needed to maintain or keep in mind was being able to go the distance to round up family if we have to. Now with a sedan, I'm only limited to whatever I can do in one. tank. So there's some considerations there that I want that we'll point out later. And just in general of a good workhorse, something that can haul equipment, haul gear, haul us, haul the dogs, haul, you know, a trailer if we have to, pretty much be able to be the workhorse for the family. And in doing so, essentially we broke down the key factors looking at this specific need set and the purpose of potentially having a bugout vehicle.
Starting point is 02:57:56 So to summarize all of these, you know, these and, you know, the basics of what we're going to be covering tonight is one, ground clearance, two, fuel economy or capacity, three, fuel alternatives, four, fully mechanical options. We'll get into that. Five, parts availability and maintenance. six, reliability, and seven, economy or price. So, essentially, the solution that we came up with happened to fall into my lap. And what happened was I was looking around because I was looking around for a different vehicle.
Starting point is 02:58:37 I had an idea of what I was wanted, and I had not a whole lot of money to work with, you know, a couple thousand dollars tops. So what we wound up picking out was a truck because we wanted to be able to cover the ground clearance and the potential for a four-wheel drive options, plus be able to navigate. We wanted something that was fully mechanical, and I wanted something that was a little bit later, but not too late. I didn't want something that was way in the 60s or 70s or 80s
Starting point is 02:59:10 that had really horrible fuel economy, but something a little bit newer, but not, you know, kind of teetering on the edge of electronics. So what I found was a 1993 GMC Sierra extended cab pickup with a full bed and a 6.5 diesel motor. So what does that mean? Well, we're going to get into that a little bit and what that means and some of the advantages and disadvantage of that particular vehicle. but from the moment I saw it,
Starting point is 02:59:46 I knew that it had the majority of the needs that I was looking for covered because it would have enough versatility to be able to cover some of the things that I need to be able to handle for a potential bugout scenario. So I've got a little bit of space inside the cab. I've got a full-sized bed for what I need around the house. I've got four-wheel drive. I've got some clearance. And it's a diesel, which has some very unique fuel alternatives that we'll get into in a minute.
Starting point is 03:00:18 And it's fully mechanical. It means, and what I mean by that is there's, there are no electronics on the vehicle other than an LCD screen inside that indicates, you know, what time it is and, you know, the ventilation controls and that's it. everything else is run by solenoids and springs there's not even any real vacuum systems on this particular model so it i caught it kind of right right in the sweet spot and this is a vehicle that we're going to be going with so over the next you know a couple weeks or months or however long it takes we're going to be giving little snippets and updates as we develop this into a more resourceful form of um a bug out view vehicle, but I wanted to back up and get into some of the main points and why I, you know, why I chose this vehicle specifically and why these things are important to me and why you should consider some of these things maybe in your own scenario, your own bugout scenario, your own bugout location, or even just your own get home scenario or your own get home situation. So, which to me, me is for me getting out is just as important as getting in and opposite you know getting home is
Starting point is 03:01:40 just as important as getting out so first number that I went with was ground clearance um number first thing I just wanted to say don't even ask if I'm going to be lifting the truck it ain't happening and this is something that uh was a logic fallacy that my dad exposed when I was a little bit younger and basically when you lift a truck all you're doing is raising the center of gravity of the truck you're not actually lifting the truck or giving it more ground clearance you're able to lift the body up a little bit but that's only doing so much your actual ground clearance is from the bottom of the tire to the upper end of the axle and that's it i guess the lower end of the axle so what really is important when it comes to ground clearance is going to be the wheeled
Starting point is 03:02:31 diameter. Now, if you're in a low clearance early 2000 sedan with 15-inch tires, you're only going to have so much room to physically get under the vehicle. And that's one of the main points that I wanted to make sure that I had covered with ground clearance was my ability to crawl underneath the vehicle without having it jacked up. There's another, there's a series of reasons for this. Part of it is identifying problems, you know, accessing parts and components, finding out what kind of towing, you know, problems you might have, or if you need to get under it to do anything. You have, at least you have access. So being big enough or tall enough, at least, a crawl under was important to me. Another thing about ground clearance is when you have enough ground clearance, you can create your own parking spot.
Starting point is 03:03:31 Now, I know how cruel and unusual that might be, but if you're in an urban environment, in some instances, you might need to jump a curb to be able to access something or get around something or move between vehicles. Sometimes a sidewalk might turn into the road that you have access to. So for me, having ground clearance was critical for that reason. And bypassing traffic, like I mentioned,
Starting point is 03:03:58 today was, you know, it's something that I observed in a bumper to bumper traffic issue where those with ground clearance were able to get by. Those with ground clearance were able to bypass hundreds of cars and save countless critical moments to get out of traffic. So especially when it comes to, you know, if you're doing a hurricane evacuation or, you know, a wildfire evacuation or whatever, it might be a flood. You know, Jay Fergie just had a great show on Saturday about, you know, wild disasters and things like that. And, you know, the ability to have enough ground clearance to get out of, you know, just a water, a pool of waters. It's critical.
Starting point is 03:04:44 So that was important to me. The second one that I have beyond ground clearance is fuel economy or capacity. So this particular truck has a 34-gallon. tank and on the upper end it's rated at 19 miles per gallon as a diesel motor so if you do the math a 34 gallon tank at the best fuel economy possible is running at 650 miles per tank now most passenger vehicles are you have a minimum of 300 gallons or sorry 300 miles per tank but to me it was important to be able to have more than that because there's a good chance that if I need to go somewhere that I can take on, you know, the added mileage without having to jump into a, or having to drop out of fuel or not being able to refuel, that kind of thing.
Starting point is 03:05:42 So the fuel range is actually about 15 minutes or sorry, 15, 16 miles per gallon to 19. So it's around 550 to 650 miles per tank. So it's generally, you know, it's generally decent in that regard. One of the benefits of a diesel is, and you know, you can do this with a gas motor too, but there's a little better mileage with diesel. And with that, you, especially a pickup truck, you can add a slip tank. Now, for those of you who don't know, a slip tank is a tank that goes in the bed of the truck, and you can put generally dyed diesel in it.
Starting point is 03:06:21 Now, dyed diesel is not legal for use on the roads, but it is something that you can use for, like, refueling. fueling generators or heavy equipment or farm equipment, stuff like that. So to me, that's important to be to have the option to be able to add a slip tank. Now, how much fuel goes in a slip tank? You can, I think the ones that I was looking at that don't take up a ton of space at about 95 gallons. So when you go with, let's see, so 95, I don't remember,
Starting point is 03:06:57 which portion of the math that I did here. But at 95 gallons, yeah, so that must be just for that tank. It'll add 1,800 miles at the top fuel economy on that vehicle. So I have 650 miles in the tank. Plus, if I have to, in an emergency, dip into that slip tank, then I have the potential to travel in over 1,800 miles. So to me, that's a significant benefit of having a vehicle that is versatile when it comes to fuel storage and those kind of options. This particular one's also a manual transmission, and that's a big plus just because it adds to fuel economy and a side benefit. When it comes to manual transmissions, this is something that my grandma told me.
Starting point is 03:07:43 In the early 2000s, she was driving a Saturn with a manual transmission, and I had just gotten out of Driver's Ed, and I asked her, why in the world do you have this manual transmissions? mission room when you could just drive an automatic well she at the time lived in new jersey and she said because all those young punks over there have no idea how to drive a stick so her reasoning is actually even more logical today than it was back in the early 2000s as it turns out there's only about 18% of americans who actually know how to drive a five-speed manual transmission So right there, the added security benefit of having a manual transmission eliminates four-fifths of any potential criminals who don't know how to drive a five-speed manual transmission. So there's definitely a benefit to taking special consideration into the type of transmission that you have in your vehicle.
Starting point is 03:08:48 plus it's it's pretty basic when it comes to the the fuel part of it now what i like about the fuel is it's different than the majority of vehicles on the road now there's a lot of diesel trucks out there but when it comes to diesel there are more alternative options so instead of since most people are driving gasoline vehicles when gas runs out diesel will likely run out. You know, there will be a little bit more time, I think, for diesel to run out because there won't be as many people at the pumps for diesel fuel. They'll be there for gasoline.
Starting point is 03:09:31 So I have an option. I have a feeling that there would be more of an option for diesel fuel than otherwise. So why diesel? There's, I could do probably an entire show on diesel. engines and why I would feel they would be more important and more versatile, but I'm going to have to keep it brief. So one of the reasons I fell back on a diesel motor was because you have the option to change out your fuels.
Starting point is 03:10:06 And what do I mean by that? Yeah, Pappy in chat. I appreciate the comment here. He says during the hurricane shortage, he never had a problem finding diesel fuel. And honestly, I think that's about as truthful as it gets. But there's an added benefit to diesel fuel that a lot of people don't realize. So diesel engines, when they were made and generated, and I don't have the facts, we could do a whole show on it if you want, like I mentioned.
Starting point is 03:10:34 But the guy who invented the diesel motor designed it to be able to run on any kind of fuel that you could throw at it, just about, any kind of oils that you could, you could, you could throw it at so peanut oil uh you know fossil fuels household oil and this this is kind of where it started to really click in my brain so if a diesel engine runs on almost anything what are the possibilities for alternative sources of fuel with gasoline if you have a gas car your fuel source is gasoline and that's it so um some of the things that you can get are different forms of diesel. Now, there is the dyed diesel, which is a red diesel that's generally used for farm equipment and stuff like that. It's generally cheaper and it's illegal for you to use it in your own
Starting point is 03:11:29 vehicle because it's cheaper and there's a different tax rating on it. So when you get to this idea of of dyed diesel, it's something that you could put in a slip tank and it's legal to have in a slip tank and in a severe situation you could potentially use that for an emergency scenario to get you by so die diesel is it's illegal but
Starting point is 03:11:58 if we're talking total grid down scenario it is an option that you can rely on what about other kind of oils well come as it turns out household oil like if you have an oil furnace in your house
Starting point is 03:12:11 is the same stuff as, well, it's not the same as diesel, but essentially it's the same composition that you could use in your diesel motor. So for those folks over in the northeast of the country, you guys generally use household oil to heat your homes. And if there was a potential, for example, like of a scenario where you completely ran out of fuel, you could potentially tap into your own household oil system,
Starting point is 03:12:44 and drain it to be able to give yourself, to top yourself off to be able to get by. And you'd have to check on this for this specific form of material, but, you know, essentially it'll work. It might cause some damage to your vehicle, so you don't want to do it in an, you know, extreme scenario, but for the most part, again, diesels were designed to be able to run just about anything.
Starting point is 03:13:06 Obviously, regular petroleum diesel is kind of the same thing, but one of the benefits of this is if you're stuck in traffic, and people start abandoning their vehicles in a long-term scenario, you can actually source fuel from diesel trucks. And they're going to have hundreds of gallons of fuel with them at a time. So, you know, if someone in a diesel truck who is just, you know, a long-haul trucker who's trying to get home, they're going to ditch that truck and leave it for the trucking company to deal with.
Starting point is 03:13:40 So in an extreme scenario, you can, could actually tap that as a source. Now, the last, you know, the last form of diesel, and we're going to get into this, is biodiesel. Now, I am doing some continued research on biodiesel, but at this moment, I am planning to do a biodiesel conversion on this truck, and for very specific reasons, some of them are cost benefit, some of them are emissions and just general performance and also the potential to source fuel locally. And I'll get into that a little bit later and we'll actually have some videos of some of these
Starting point is 03:14:27 changes that I'll be making to the vehicle for those folks on Patreon. So essentially in this, we've covered some of the basics when it comes to fuel and diesel. Basically, when you put fuel and air together, you get power out of a diesel. It's really that simple. You don't need all the other garbage. You don't need all the emission stuff. You don't need spark. You don't need vacuum.
Starting point is 03:14:49 You put fuel in it and you add air, run the system, and it's good to go. So what this means to me is fewer failure points, all in all. So let's see. We are going down the list, probably not as fast. I would like. So let's go to a quick break, and when we come back, we'll try to wrap up a little bit more of these. I'm going to make sure I get through this today, so hopefully, if you guys don't mind, we might do a slightly longer show. And when we're done with that, we'll do the Pite-Sized Prepper Project of the Week. So hold on everybody, and we will be right back.
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Starting point is 03:16:23 Hey, y'all. Jordan here. You're a host of a family affair. Catch us every Saturday evening at 9 p.m. Eastern as we discuss prepping on every level. And remember, everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody got low play.
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Starting point is 03:17:27 We've got rotating hosts on Friday nights, which is always a good time. We've got having some fun with that on the open bunker for Fridays. And, you know, if you're out there and you're interested, give us a shout and we'll see what we can do to give you some air time and you know we can kind of talk prepping on Fridays during the open mic time plus you can also catch Jay Fergie with a family affair on Saturday nights oh sorry folks hold on a second gotta get calling back there we go um let's see where was I oh Jay Fergie on Saturday nights with family affair and
Starting point is 03:18:06 Sunday we've got Reliance and Medical Mondays on Monday obviously where we dig through the archives to bring you some of the best medical tips for preppers we've got great tips or great shows every night this week so be sure to stay tuned and check them out and before we went to break we were talking about some of the things that we are trying to incorporate in into a bugout vehicle and
Starting point is 03:18:34 the specific reasons for why we chose these things for our region and some of the long-term reasons for choosing these particular whatever features or whatever for this vehicle. Basically, what we decided at this point is that we're going with an early 90s model diesel pickup with a four-wheel drive and an extended cab and a full bed. So before we went to break, we were talking about some of the ways you can source fuel for diesel trucks and some of the reasons for that and the potential for that. And one of the big things about diesel fuel is you have fewer failure points. One of the things that I really wanted to emphasize in this vehicle was fewer failure points. You know, obviously I shared a story about, you know, my coolant tank that had the overflow tank that blew out.
Starting point is 03:19:34 because it was a pressurized system, I pretty much lost all my fluid and got stranded on the side of the road. And to me, every time you have something or some component on a vehicle or anything, really any piece of machinery, another thing that you add adds a layer of complexity. So when you start peeling back those layers of complexity, you get down to the root of what you need. It's just a vehicle that will get you from point A to point B safely with you. and your family and all your gear, right? That's all a bugout vehicle needs to be, or a get-home vehicle,
Starting point is 03:20:08 or your daily driver, for that matter. So when you start peeling off the backup cameras, and you peel off the, oh, gosh, what else, you know, your XM radio, and you peel off your satellite imagery, and you peel off your sat phones, and you peel off your power windows, and you peel off your heated leather seats,
Starting point is 03:20:30 and you peel off your automated drive, systems your autopilot systems um you know all that kind of stuff you start peeling all that thing all those things back your vacuum lines your emissions controls all that kind of stuff and what you have is a machine that actually works and it works to dependably whenever you need it you have fewer and fewer failure points um i don't know why but i i have a really hard time with vacuum vacuum to me just really sucks um if you get the pun But it just, it always has. It's never been something that, that I've enjoyed.
Starting point is 03:21:12 I've always had a hard time with it. And it seems like every time I lose some sort of component, it's related to vacuum. And no one knows where to find the vacuum leak. You've got to go through and test it out. So it's really hard to be able to do anything with that. Sometimes electronics fail, solenoids and things like that have a potential to fail. You know, obviously electronics, especially. really nice electronics add to the draw on your system.
Starting point is 03:21:38 So you kind of have issues when it comes to that. And when you start stripping away all those complexities, what you have is something that is fully mechanical, and it's easier to comprehend without, you know, extra computers. You know, if there's a major EMP scenario or something like that, they say that on occasion, all you have to do to fix the vehicle is turn a back on. So, you know, it might not be the vehicles are stalled in traffic for a long period of time. You can just, you just, it's going to stop and then you turn it back on. But what happens if
Starting point is 03:22:14 other electronics fail? Like the computer that actually reads the vehicle codes. You know, what if you have an issue where, you know, you've got to check engine light and you take it to a, you know, a place to get it fixed and they bring out the scanning device and it does nothing? Well, how do you know what's going on? You know, are you skilled enough to be able to tear that thing apart? And identify what the actual problem is no most cases most people won't be able to you get a code and even that's a challenge to be able to identify so um you know that's when you go with a fully mechanical system it's just plain easier to diagnose you've just you've got if a then b logic and that's it so when it so we've covered let's see ground clearance fuel economy fuel alternatives and having a
Starting point is 03:23:01 fully mechanical system. The next on the list was parts availability and maintenance. So this particular model of car, or truck, I guess, I should say, was pretty common. Parts are really accessible, especially body parts. In fact, I think the truck that I have has a different tailgate than the stock one, and I think it might have a newer bed. So it's that era of truck from 1990. to 1998, I think, is pretty much the same.
Starting point is 03:23:35 So I won't have problems getting body components or things like that. Some of the other stuff might be a little bit more of a challenge, more specialized, but that's kind of where we're going to get into some of the parts availability stuff going on, you know, like if it's regionally available. I've had other vehicles where regional availability of parts was a critical thing. You know, you want to make sure that you have parts that actually match whatever vehicles are being driven in your area. So, for example, I lived in an area in northern Idaho where almost everybody drove a Subaru because of the snow and how well they performed. And if you are with, you know, if you're driving in an area where everyone else is driving a Subaru and you roll up in a Mercedes, you might have a little bit of a problem.
Starting point is 03:24:29 sourcing parts if the dealership is an hour and a half away. If you get stranded, your options are limited. Whereas if you are in an area where you have one type of vehicle that's very common and you just look around, look it around the cars
Starting point is 03:24:45 that are driving around you, Dodge Durangoes are actually pretty common. That 1998 to 2001 or two is pretty much the same. I know actually it's probably closer to 2004 or five so I mean those ones the a lot of them are interchangeable so the the body style and the type of vehicle that you choose you want to try and make sure that you have some that are at least interchangeable because you want to be able to source parts a brand new Tesla probably not going to be able to source parts very often very easily for at least another 10 20 years if that and if so I mean are you even going to be you know are you going to be one or are you going to be one or are you going to be one or you're going to be one or you're going to be one to drive it anyways.
Starting point is 03:25:29 So parts availability and maintenance is a big deal. The other portion of that is not only the ability to get parts, but maintenance. What are you doing to be able to maintain your own vehicle? And this is where, you know, it's time to break out the Haynes manual or the Chilton's manual. Do you have one? If not, get one. These are manuals that you can get and you can keep in your trunk and they give you a full schematic breakdown on how to do everything from change your air filter to do a full engine
Starting point is 03:26:06 overhaul, change out your brakes, you know, change out body components, do whatever you have to do, windows, you know, gears, anything related to that vehicle, it's an instruction manual for that. And it's not an owner's manual. It's an instruction manual. So it's a pretty big difference in something that you'll really want to keep in mind as a reference for your vehicle, especially if you have an older model one because you can save hundreds, if not thousands of dollars by being able to maintain them yourself, which is the number one flaw
Starting point is 03:26:37 when it comes to me being stranded on the side of the road with a vehicle that I can't fix. So next on the level of importance is reliability. So this particular vehicle, I already know, has been time tested. These engines, these diesel motors, have been known to surpass 400,000 miles if properly cared for. Currently, this one is running at about 180,000 miles, which sounds high, but not when you're talking about a diesel motor. So it's right about midway, and if you think about it at roughly 10,000 miles a year on average, I have 200,000 miles to work with, and that breaks down to about 20 years, potentially, to be able to run this vehicle. And, you know, potentially during that time frame, I could learn more about the vehicle, Colin can learn more about the vehicle.
Starting point is 03:27:35 We can both take care of it and maintain it properly and, you know, have more of an available opportunity to get out there and do more. So being reliable and being time tested is something that should definitely go into your choice in what you choose or your options and what you choose to start your bug out vehicle journey. And then lastly is the economy or the price of the vehicle. So on this particular vehicle, I paid cash. So I have no car payment. as a result of switching my insurance from my sedan, which is about 10 years newer to this car that was about 10 years older in a pickup truck, it dropped by about 20 bucks a month.
Starting point is 03:28:26 So cost savings for insurance alone is 240 bucks a year. My fuel availability increased. What do I mean by that? Well, I mentioned before about the diesel options, but I have a biodiesel source where I can get fuel for $2 to $2.50 per gallon, whereas everyone else in the vicinity is paying upwards of $3 and $350 in our region. So right there, I have fuel savings of about $30 a week on average, times 52 weeks a year, is an annual savings of about $15,000.
Starting point is 03:29:06 $1,160 per year. So when you combine the $240 a year from insurance savings, plus the $1,500 a year on fuel savings, it puts me in a cash positive position of $1,800 per year just by switching to this vehicle as my daily driver and using it and building it up as I go. Now, if I can keep repairs in line, that should cover most of the purchases and any of the adaptations that we're going to make to it. And on top of that, if I chose to add a personal car payment, like a $200 a month, you know, potential plan that I put specifically as a quote unquote car payment,
Starting point is 03:29:51 then I can add that to, you know, my vehicle maintenance goals or my vehicle improvement goals. All said and done between the insurance, the fuel savings, and the payment to myself as a vehicle, I have the potential to rat hole $4,200 a year if I stick with that particular format that I could invest either in new work, new parts, or even potentially saving up to pay cash for a new vehicle in five to 10 years. So it's something that you really should consider. And you know, that $4,200 a year, just as a point of reference, that's less, excuse me, that's more than what I paid for the vehicle.
Starting point is 03:30:35 So within one year's time, or even really, you know, the $1,800 a year, in two years I would have the vehicle paid for just in the savings alone from insurance and fuel. So something to keep in mind there on what you do when you spend money on a new vehicle. You don't need to go out and buy, you know, these multi-million dollar ramped up vehicles that are already, you know, designed with bulletproof armor and bulletproof windows and, you know, backup. satellite GPS systems and all this kind of stuff i mean you can add those toys later on everything's available aftermarket right so uh this ladies and gentlemen is where we're going to start so this is kind of the the the blueprint this is what we're working with and it's something that we're going to be going uh we're going to be taking you along the journey with us so um a couple of pros and cons really quick so some of the cons obviously we got to watch out with uh some of the cons uh some
Starting point is 03:31:35 some basic issues with switching to biodiesel. Pappy in chat room he's mentioning, you know, blooming an eight-gallon tank, 8,000 tank, 8,000 gallon tank from diesel algae, which is something that grows on occasion with biodiesel. So you've got to make sure you treat it. There's going to be some issues with winter cloud point.
Starting point is 03:32:01 We'll get into that when we get in deep with the diesel format. So we might do it. We're probably just going to have to do a separate show on biodiesel and the diesel options and what we're looking at. But in being a diesel motor, we lose every opportunity of stealth during travel. It's loud. You're going to hear it a block away. You're going to hear it a night every time it fires up early morning. The neighbors are going to hear it.
Starting point is 03:32:25 So it's just something that you have to keep in mind with this particular thing. So we lose all stealth with this vehicle. but I'm willing to sacrifice that. It is big and bulky, so it's going to be hard to navigate in metropolitan areas. I'm not taking it to Seattle, so don't ask. If anybody needs a ride,
Starting point is 03:32:44 it ain't happening. I'm not helping you move. Just, you know, just saying. It's unattractive, because for what it's worth, I mean,
Starting point is 03:32:52 it's an old beat-up truck, mid-90s, Chevy. It's going to have a Chevy paint job for mid-90s, and that's probably the way it's going to stay for several years. So it's not attractive. and as a bug out vehicle I generally don't need it to be attractive
Starting point is 03:33:06 that's not what I want if anything I want less attention not more and the last con that I have right off the top is the unknown the ghosts that I have yet to discover underneath the motor so wait wait wait wait wait
Starting point is 03:33:22 are you saying our truck is haunted oh yeah every used vehicle is haunted so it's just something that you have to deal with I mean you're going to have issues with vehicle. So, especially if you don't know the previous owner or, you know, they could be feeding you a line just to get it off their lot. So we've already run into some challenges and I'll get into some of that down the road as we get as we kind of explain some of the changes that we are making
Starting point is 03:33:47 and the improvements that we're making along the way. Some of the pros. You know, we mentioned some of the pros already, the manual transmission, as mentioned before, about less than 18% of Americans can drive a stick and there's less than 5% of vehicles on the road with a manual transmission on them, new vehicles, excuse me. So it kind of reduces the potential for theft. And just in having this, Colin, you're going to learn how to drive a stick. So it's going to be an added skill that you'll have. And you will be within that top 20% of people who actually know how to drive a stick.
Starting point is 03:34:25 So that'll be good for you. I can haul more equipment, more fuel, more animals, more gear. Another pro is I can, as a result of that, I can go longer distances, and I can have more potential to be there for family members and things like that. And starting out from scratch, the main pro is we have the ability to adapt or modify and work on this thing as we go. You know, it's something that it's really not, it's not, it's not, a new vehicle, so I'm not afraid to
Starting point is 03:34:58 punch holes or dig into stuff, you know, change things out, explore and, you know, experiment on some of this kind of stuff. So it'll be interesting, and hopefully you guys will get something out of this. So overall plan for this vehicle over the course of the year. Number one, well, into a particular order,
Starting point is 03:35:16 we're planning to do a biodiesel conversion, which is already underway. We're going to be adding some light bars for in different areas of the truck for various lighting tasks and we'll get into that. We'll probably be adding some components like Nerf, not Nerf bars, but like maybe a bull bar or a brush guard or general, a bumper guard and a winch system on the front, possibly
Starting point is 03:35:41 even the back. And we'll explain why we're doing that down the road. We're going to be doing some interior engine maintenance and repair, which is stuff that we've already started, and we're going to be doing some more videos on, you know, some of the things that we are doing, which should come out real quick because we've got to get it road ready right off the bat. We're going to be doing a CB radio install, some interior modifications, and truck bed modifications that we might even be bringing in Dane over the gunmetal armory to see
Starting point is 03:36:12 what he can come up with. Some potential wheel, excuse me, wheel options and replacement in that regard. And we're going to be, we'll probably even do a whole episode on how. to drive a stick and why. So Colin is probably going to be instrumental in making that one happen. So I think that's probably enough of an introduction for what we're doing now. Ooh, yeah, amateur radio. Maybe we should get an amateur radio built into that too.
Starting point is 03:36:43 So, yeah, lots of options here. And in fact, if you guys have some suggestions on what we should build into this vehicle, send us a note, send us an email, send us a message on social media or something. we won't hold anything back we'll make this the prepper broadcasting vehicle that uh that you all can be proud of so it should be a good time and we want you to get involved in and you know take take what you can from what we're doing in this project to either learn yourself or uh you know teach others so we hope that's what this is is a learning experience and a teaching opportunity so with that as far as a learning experience and a teaching opportunity uh for the pint size
Starting point is 03:37:24 Preper Project of the week, we decided it would be instrumental and fitting to do something very basic. Change a tire. So you don't want to be that guy, especially if you're stranded on the road just because you have a flat tire and you've never changed one before. And even a kid can do it. So Colin, why don't you go ahead and explain the basics of this? And we'll try and get some photos up before next week's show for the folks of you out there who follow us on Instagram. All right. So I'll go through this and correct me if I'm wrong or missing anything out.
Starting point is 03:38:03 You know, leaving anything out. So basically, how to change your tire on your automobile. So whether or not it'd be because you have a flat tire or the tire is just damaged in some sort of other way. Maybe there's something wrong with the wheel. You know how to change your tire. So some things you'd want to keep handy in your car. would be the owner's manual of the vehicle you are changing the tire on, a jack, a wrench, a spare tire, a rain poncho,
Starting point is 03:38:39 just in case the weather isn't the greatest, a wheel wedge, a flashlight in case you're working in the dark, with working batteries. And to support the wheel jack, you could keep handy a piece of wood, or a metal rod of some kind, just to sort of support, just to help out the wheeljack. And then you can also bring gloves if you don't want to get your hands or your, for whatever reason you might need gloves. So the actual how-to would be to start by simply pulling over to a safe spot, preferably near if your tire is flat.
Starting point is 03:39:20 And then you're going to want to turn on your hazards. And this is according to bridge stone tires. website if I remember correctly and then once you have pulled over and your hazards are on apply your emergency brakes and secure your wheel wedges and make sure that your car is in a fixed spot or position and it's not going to be going to anywhere then you're going to want to remove your hubcaps or your wheel cover loosen the lug nuts and place the jack under the vehicle then you raise the jack and unscrew the lug nuts completely the rest of the way
Starting point is 03:40:04 you remove the flat or damaged tire and then replace it by putting the spare tire on the lug bolts you know like that are on the vehicle then you loosely fasten the tire with the lug nuts by hand lower the jack then tighten the lug nuts the rest of the way then you replace your hubcaps and pretty much do everything else in reverse. You put all the equipment back to their original homes. And then check the air pressure before you get back on the road. And then finally, you want to take your damage tire to a technician. Yeah, pretty basic.
Starting point is 03:40:47 I mean, this is an essential skill. And, I mean, I'm sure most of us out there have experienced a flat tire. In most cases, you know, you can use something like fix a flat and Sometimes it's a good idea to put some of that in your car. Just keep in mind that the guy who has to change your tire next is probably going to give you a sour face or charge you a little bit extra if they have to fix it. But essentially, you want to make sure that you've got air also in your spare tire
Starting point is 03:41:15 and that it actually is in good shape. If the tread isn't very good or if it's got cracking or if it's flat, it's not going to do you much better than the flat tire you already have. And one of the things about the fix-a-flat is that you can, can't count on that to be the ultimate solution. They're great and it works in a pinch, but I've actually been in situations in my own vehicles where the tire went flat and it actually blew out the side of the side walls.
Starting point is 03:41:44 And I had to use a saws-all to cut the tire from the wheel so that I could just get the wheel off the vehicle and put the spare tire on. So, you know, it just, you got to. to keep in mind that there are other factors that come into play when you get a flat tire and you want to try and cover as much of that as you can. So it's not always just to fix a flat solution. You've got to be able to think outside the box and have tools and gear on hand to be able to fix stuff. So some of the skills learned through this project are some basics of roadside self-sufficiency. And this is critical to learn at a young age for obvious reasons.
Starting point is 03:42:24 the basic the importance of basic car knowledge like knowing your own vehicle and where the spare tire is for example where the what do you call it the jack is and where your
Starting point is 03:42:37 what do you call it the wrench the lug wrench is and all that kind of stuff make sure you have the right tools for your vehicle and then also another skill that is developed in this project is the importance of exposing backups to backup.
Starting point is 03:42:58 You know, every car has an emergency kit, and you need to learn how to use it. You need to learn how it works, and you can, I mean, you can use this as a starting point. I mean, if nothing else, to teach someone about survival by just showing them their own self-reliance kit that's built into their vehicle. You know, and hey, for those of you, out there. We hope that you like these prepper projects. We plan to keep them coming. We've just released a pint-sized prepper project book with 30 projects that we did last year. This is volume one so far and another one we're going to be planning for maybe early 2020. So if you'd like to
Starting point is 03:43:41 check it out, just go to Amazon, type in my name, you can type in Collins name or you can type in pint-sized prepper project and it'll come right up. The cost is about six bucks, which is less than an action figure and I'm definitely I'm convinced that it'll keep your little ones entertained for more than a $6 movie. So, you know, it's also linked right there on our show page. So if you're interested, go check it out. We really appreciate your
Starting point is 03:44:07 support. And if you guys would like to support us directly on the Next Generation Show, go buy that book, share it with friends, buy it for friends, do what you got to do, and we appreciate it. So that's our selfless plug for the week. And I think with that, let's get into the final takeaway for this for this particular episode it really doesn't matter what you drive it's how you think about what you drive it's it's what is really riding on your
Starting point is 03:44:39 tires you know just like that old Michelin ad um i think it was from the 80s or the early 90s and all it was was a baby in a tire and that's really the only image you need to be able to to understand how important it is for you to be able to stay on the road and moving when you really need to. But it goes beyond tires. It goes into how much you understand your own vehicle, how much you can work on your own vehicle, what you can do, what you can't do, knowing your limitations, knowing your options. The best option for being prepared while driving is not to get stranded in the first place, right? So we are taking on this major task of building an ideal bugout vehicle to share with you, and we're going to be sharing the
Starting point is 03:45:28 process and our findings and our failures along the way. But we're also going to be sharing our thinking along the way and why we chose to do certain things as we go. But we'd like to use this as an opportunity to prompt you, the listener. From where you stand, take a moment to reevaluate your own situation and what problems you need to be able to solve in your own vehicle. And when it comes to kids, are your kids coming of age? How much do they know?
Starting point is 03:46:02 How much do they need to know? Do they have some basic skills? Do they have the ability to make their own repairs? Do they have a basic knowledge of systems and care requirements, like changing oil or keeping fuel in it or changing air filters, that kind of stuff? it's never too soon or never too early to teach these things I mean as it stands Colin is in his early teens and we're going to be going through this
Starting point is 03:46:30 and he's going to get just as dirty if not dirtier than I am I can guarantee that so hey now I have a piece at all yeah you're going to be learning to hard and fast for sure so for those of you out there wherever you are in life it can and likely will dictate your transportation needs. We are at a point where we need to learn and understand some of these systems as Colin approaches driving age. And it's critical here, so we're starting with
Starting point is 03:47:01 the basics in an effort to build skills and create this monster along the way of some kind or another. So it's important to remember if you do this on your own that your kids are going to learn from you. So if you're not satisfied with your own abilities or your own setup, take a critical look and see where you can make changes. Try to get out from under a car payment if you can so you can use your financial means to see what kind of other options you have available. Just remember, it's not what you drive.
Starting point is 03:47:42 It's what you carry and how much you make sure that you get. get from point A to point B on your own accord. If you drive a Tersail or an outback or a Miata and that suits you, run with it. But if you need to make changes and you're not sure where to start, just stay tuned and we'll kind of reveal what we came up with and our logic behind our process during the weeks and months to come. So we'll update you with the progress and hopefully we'll inspire some ideas for you along the way.
Starting point is 03:48:15 Lastly, in case you missed it, we did our annual recap year in the books where we recap some of our best moments of the last year. And we announced our new book, The Pint Size Preper Project of the Week, which is now available on Amazon. And remember, if you missed out on any of our shows, you can always check out our previous episodes on the show page or on your favorite streaming service. And while you're there, be sure to leave us a five-star review. It helps to boost our presence and allow us to share this message with others. Next week, we're going to be, we're debating on whether or not we should do this, but I think we're going to be doing a second planting episode so that we can go through some of the plant varieties that can be planted this time of year so that you have the potential for a second and or late fall,
Starting point is 03:49:06 excuse me, late fall harvest to keep the crops rolling in as the months roll down. Oh, Volcano, yes. Volcano in chat asks if we are going to release the book on Patreon, and the answer is yes. I'm not sure how that works, but I've sent it off to James. So hopefully the Patreon listeners out there, if you signed up for Patreon, if you haven't received that yet, let me know.
Starting point is 03:49:35 But one way or another, we'll make sure that you get this volume of the Pinet Says Pepper Project of the week, and every consecutive volume that we come out with free as part of your Patreon membership. So we're still kind of determining what tier that's going to be on, I think. But again, if you're already a member and you haven't received it yet, just check to see what tier you're on and which one that's available on and we'll go from there. It should be an email if you have any questions.
Starting point is 03:50:01 Or stay tuned because if you don't want to shell out the cash to buy it right now, I'm going to do a promotion on that book so that if you want to get it for free, we'll probably issue like a one or two week promotion so that the folks who are out here can get what they want in that book and see it for free and get it for free as part of that promotion. So stay tuned. We'll try and have that on next week's show. And Volcano, I'll check into that, see what's up with your one-year schedule on that portion of it. So I think that's it for today, everyone.
Starting point is 03:50:37 Thanks for joining us on the Next Generation show. Sorry for the extended version, but hopefully we can, hopefully we were able to provide some decent information other than just me talking about my truck hopefully it'll be a little bit more useful now that you've got a little bit of a baseline but don't forget to tune into us next week where we explore another aspect
Starting point is 03:51:00 of the little things in life that make all the difference in the world this is your host Ryan Buford and your co-host did I lose him maybe I lost it Colin! I lost you I was muted. You were muted. The button.
Starting point is 03:51:17 That's all right. Reminding you guys to stay informed, get involved, and be prepared. Have a great night, everybody. Make it a great week. Thank you for listening to the Prepper Broadcasting Network, where we promote self-reliance and independence. Tune in tomorrow for another great show and visit us at Prepperbroadcasting.com. Gotham Get Out, Ben the Breaker of Banksters here at cash site number one.
Starting point is 03:52:49 About five and a half miles in. Got a few more to go. Got another cash site to hit before I get to the final site. The good news is, well, there's good and bad news. Number bad news first, there ain't nothing to warm me up in here. There's nothing to eat. Good news, it's all very lightweight so I could take everything that's here. I have some cordage or actually more like twine.
Starting point is 03:53:14 It's not like, it's not 550 cord. It's like twine or thicker than string. I think twine is the right name. I don't know. We've got a couple light sticks. We've got two big plastic bags, which if it was raining, these would be invaluable. That's it.
Starting point is 03:53:32 That's it. Looks like future Dan came by. And I'm not sure. I think his package is gone. He would have probably got here before me. just based on the route but we'll see James is still here though so with that
Starting point is 03:53:48 said travel's been decent I'll tell you this guys here's my little tip from the last hour I've been walking in areas that are well lit and areas that are totally dark obviously I'm trying to stay towards the dark to say gray man
Starting point is 03:54:03 but you get a little depressed a little scared a little like the fear of the dark as Iron Maiden song goes like I'll know exactly where I am, but as soon as I hit pure darkness, I'm like, shit, do I really know where I am? And I do, but can you imagine bugging out and not really knowing where you're going? My point is, if you're bugging out, hopefully you'll have a compass. But try to plan your bug out. If there's a few places you go that you know, you know, school, work, your in-laws house,
Starting point is 03:54:36 whatever, 30, 40, 50 miles away, know a route, no a couple routes. Even, you know, you know, travel those routes by car multiple times just so you can kind of understand it so when you won't have that panic mode we're like oh shit where really am i is dark is cold oh my god where am i where am i no don't let that happen to you so anyway there's a little prepper tip nothing special i'm on my way to cash site number two see you guys on the other end okay good morning or good evening team gunmetal i am so happy to be here tonight guys I think you guys are too. Tonight we're going to do our prepper product pick of the week.
Starting point is 03:55:20 We're also going to do a giveaway and possibly another giveaway, if I can remember to. I'd also like to remind you guys that if you have any gunsmithing, any weaponry, any knives, or any other related questions, any at all, feel free to email me at gunmetalarmory at gmail.com. Okay. If you're interested in sponsoring the show, too, feel free to email me at the same address, gunmetal armory at gmail.com. Okay, so first thing I want to do is I want to talk to you guys about the prepper product pick of the week, which is going to be the Rattler Straps Flint Laces. I know you guys have probably read that I'm going to be giving these away tonight, and I am. Um, the prepper product pick of the week, the rattler flint, uh, the rattler straps flint laces, um, for my listeners that are paying attention. They'll know that these are fire starter laces, okay? Um, the flint laces come in black or brown. They come in a couple of different lengths. Uh, the length that I prefer is 108 inches. Um, but you may need a different length for your boots. You know, some people, they need a different length. So, you know, depending on the size of the shoes or boots. Um, you know, you know, depending on the size of the shoes or boots. Um, you know, or, you know, it could be a million different types of footwear. So it's really up to you what size you get.
Starting point is 03:56:46 The really great thing about these laces, aside from the great way to make fire everywhere you go, is that each end of each lace has a flint on it. Now, when I first saw these things online, I thought that maybe one or two of the aglets or the ends of the laces, were ferro rods. That's not the case. There is not just one or two of these things. There are four of them. There are four different ferro rods on these laces. That blew me away. I don't, that really blew me away. But this system provides you with four separate flints to strike from. Each pair of laces also includes two striker plates or blades for each, one for each boot. Okay. They're held in at the bottom of the laces on your shoe, you know, where the straight across part is at the bottom of the laces, that part right there.
Starting point is 03:57:49 You don't necessarily have to thread them in at the bottom of the shoelaces, but that's where the Rattler straps R.D department recommends that you do it. And that's not to mention what you can do with the striker plater blade afterwards. words. It's actually, it's an extremely, an extremely sharp serrated blade. It's very sharp. It's almost a razor blade. I'm pretty sure it's a serrated razor blade, but I couldn't say for sure. You could possibly use that blade for a lot of other stuff, but being that it is a little bit thin, you have to take good care of it. You don't, you want to snap it in half or anything like that. Don't use it for anything too crazy. But you could use it for other survival chores along with making a fire, things like that. So if you're interested in picking yourself up a pair, you can go to www. www.ratlerstraps.com. That's R-A-T-T-L-E-R-E-R-A-P-S dot com. Rattler Straps.
Starting point is 03:58:54 Okay? So as I said tonight, previously, my giveaway and my Prepper Product Pick of the Week is for these rattler straps flint laces, okay? We have a quick, we have a quick question in the chat room here. They're curious if these will pass through a metal detector. Now, I don't believe that they will. First of all, because ferro rod has some traces of metal in it, but also because the piece that's used to secure the ferro rod to the lace is actually metal as well. And of course, someone mentioned in the chat room, the striker plate is going to be the part that sets off the metal detector as well, because that's actually a small razor blade.
Starting point is 03:59:38 So I think you might be okay with the laces themselves, but you definitely do not want to go through with that striker on your shoes. I've seen guys go through airports with the micro-handcuff key on their laces from Shomer Tech, the bootlaced handcuff key. I've seen people go through with those on their laces before, but I have never seen anyone go through with these. It's a good question, and it's something that we can definitely ask about, okay?
Starting point is 04:00:10 All right. So tonight, the giveaway, all right? The ones I'm giving away are going to be the black ones, 108 inches long. I've actually been messing around with these things for a couple of days now, and I've got to say, these little guys, they're pretty cool, man. They're really, really nice. nice. Really well-built laces. It's not like they're, you know, cheap laces. They're actually good laces. They're strong. And again, you know, it's metal and it's ferro rod. You know, you can't really go wrong. If you consider what you're getting from what you're paying, the retail, I believe, on these is less than $20. So you really, I mean, you can't go wrong. And don't forget, these don't just have to be laces, guys. These could be used.
Starting point is 04:00:58 as a cord wrap for knife handles, they could be lanyards, they could be anything else cord-related, really. They're straight up awesome, guys. I love them. I really do. Each lace, you know, like I said, it comes with the flint at the end. It's got the striker plate included, and, you know, that's what you use to create the sparks. But you don't have to use the striker plate. You could use your own pocket knife. You could easily use your own pocket knife. But I'd rather use that striker plate myself because I don't like to dole my knives or use my knives for anything but cutting. So, okay, tonight, is everyone ready?
Starting point is 04:01:38 We are going to do the question, all right? And this question, James, if you're paying attention, someone might decide to call in. But the question is going to be a pretty simple one. And hopefully someone out there knows the answer, all right? it's going to be centered around ammunition so put your thinking caps on okay first there's a few rules in place family members of mine can't win and hosts of current hosts not old school hosts but people that are currently hosting a prepper product uh prepper broadcasting network hosts are not eligible either we have to be fair okay guys oh and if if you won before you can't win twice
Starting point is 04:02:24 in a row, okay? You cannot win twice in a row. All right. So here we go. With regards to ammunition, when you hear 762 by 39 or 556 by 45, what exactly do those two numbers mean? What does the first number, 762 mean and what is the second number 39 mean what are those things okay so if you guys want to answer in the chat room feel free to answer at any point oh my gosh we have someone that's uh I'm gonna call it I'm gonna say it that nub you got it length and diameter yep you are correct you got it yep that's the one okay so the 7662 is the bullet
Starting point is 04:03:32 diameter and the 39 is the case length you are correct okay all right so that nub go ahead and email me at gunmetal armory at gmail.com and give me your address and I'll get them sent out to you all right
Starting point is 04:03:51 congratulations guys all right okay so let's see urban survival simulation
Starting point is 04:04:05 this is gotham get out all right this is future Dan 747 Eastern checking in
Starting point is 04:04:26 everything is above expectations at this point I'm not cold because I'm moving fast hit my first cache before Cochran so that's good and I found cans of beans and soup which is even better now I've moved off of the first cash didn't want to get spotted brought my first cash box didn't even look at it just picked it up carried it I am in a
Starting point is 04:04:59 behind an office building that's got a good light above me behind a couple dumpsters So I got light and there's furniture back here. I mean, I'm telling you, it's above expectations. So I'm sitting on a part of a drawer out of some office furniture. It's getting thrown away here. I'm looking at my first cache. I do have some interesting things. Enchovies put in there by Maria.
Starting point is 04:05:28 But luckily for me, I don't have to eat the anchovies. Because I'm going to eat a can of the beans I just found. The antivis will definitely get used later though. What else I got in here? I got something special. It's in a custom kit, like a mesh black kit. It's got like some kind of container in it. I think I got a gas stove.
Starting point is 04:05:52 I got a stove kit. Like I got a new stove kit. Yeah, things are above expectation. Holy crap. Very good. We're going to eat that soup and be all right. If we could figure out a way to start a fire. There's also pink wild salmon.
Starting point is 04:06:08 Did get a bullet. And that bullet, got to get that open for the gunpowder to start a fire, I think. Looks like I got a tire pump, basketball pump or something. There is a battery here. I know you can make fires with that. I'm just going to have to stop and think about it. Because I am a little bit exhausted without the food yet. But right after this broadcast, I'm going to just open that can of beans and eat it.
Starting point is 04:06:34 I got two of them. And there's something else here. I got a little container. What's that contained? I think it's a container vodka. I think I got a little vial of vodka in there. Yep. The more I talk, the more everything is above expectations.
Starting point is 04:06:51 I wonder if that's grain alcohol that can start fire, too. What else? Oh, wait. I got a slim gym. That's getting eaten. right now. Also, along the way, I came across
Starting point is 04:07:06 right immediately, right immediately after getting dropped off by Dave, came across a car antenna. Perfectly intact leaning up against a guardrail. Took that. I'd count that as a weapon against an unarmed person or maybe an
Starting point is 04:07:23 animal, but definitely whipped something with it. I picked up two racquetball size of stones and I carried those keep my eye out for food that I don't have to eat now because I got we got food um and then again above expectations heading along my route I find a a tub of paints like some art kit that flew off of a car or something I don't know so I got I took the black paint I think when I hit the woodline I'm on a camouflage with it put it on my face get out of the get out of the urban environment everywhere
Starting point is 04:07:58 here it's got you know lights out you know parking lot lights and whatnot but once we get the woodland i want to get that on my face uh so a little camouflage a little bit of weaponry got a couple racquetball size stones haven't built anything better than that for a weapon but i got you know i'm armed i got something and what else i find there's paint brushes i haven't figured out what I could do with those but I kept them and got some wire
Starting point is 04:08:29 a little bit of wire but I'm not even at my second cash so what's going to be hard coming up is making choices also I'm sitting behind a couple I'm trying to eat this beef stick right now oh my God I'm eating in 24 hours it's good
Starting point is 04:08:46 I'm looking inside this dumpster right next to me he's got foam mats It's the kind of like link together foam mats. So I think I'm going to eat and sleep on those tonight. Checking in at my next cache. I'll actually grab my stuff, get off that cache. I think I'm going to head to that finish line. Try to beat these millennials.
Starting point is 04:09:11 Oh, whoops. Anyways, okay, guys, that is the giveaway. All right. And I'm probably going to do a giveaway for the book, too, at the end of the show. So that question, I would hope almost anyone could answer. Okay. I'm going to do the book question. It's going to be about as simple as it could be.
Starting point is 04:09:32 And you just got to be fast is what it's going to come down to. All right. Okay. So with, oh, sorry, I'm about to read the question again. All right. Let's move on to the show, guys. Okay. Here we go.
Starting point is 04:09:48 Let's see. The bugout bag. the bugout bag here we go the bugout bag has been around for a long time guys we all know this many many iterations of this thing exist okay there's the bugout bag the bob whatever you want to call it as we all know and then there's the good or the get out of dodge bag um and of course there is the inch bag or i'm never coming home um in addition to these there are many many more acronyms in use for the various bags and packages out there. Many folks say that the Bob actually harkens back to the bailout bag that military pilots carried on them for survival
Starting point is 04:10:35 in the event that they had to eject from their aircraft. Of course, their kits would probably differ somewhat from a civilian kit, but the reasoning tracks. And now, I haven't actually had a chance to ask any, you know, know, current military pilots or any old school military pilots, if this is correct. But it does seem to make sense. And, you know, for a long time, even Bush pilots in Alaska had this type of stuff available to them. In fact, just the other day, we were talking about take down lever action rifles in the back of Alaskan Bush pilot planes.
Starting point is 04:11:15 So it's something to look out there. So if you look at their kits and you look at what a civilian might need, you would, things are going to differ a little bit. You know, a military guy might need an encrypted radio, whereas a civilian probably wouldn't need an encrypted radio. A military guy might need infrared glow sticks or infrared signaling equipment, whereas, you know, civilian probably wouldn't need infrared signaling equipment. I mean, maybe you do, but I don't. So it's definitely something to look at the history of. Optimizing and streamlining, your bugout bag is probably going to be a lot different than any other item as well. You have to consider the items you have. You've got to consider the ones that you need. You've got to consider the weight of
Starting point is 04:12:15 each item, what items you can combine, what your needs are, things like that. For example, in a lot of bugout bags, you see a large camp or survival knife. You'll see a small neck knife, a small folding knife, a multi-tool, a shovel, a hatchet, maybe even a saw, and a machete. So, I mean, like, you've seen the pictures on Pinterest where you can see the bugout bag all laid out, and you see almost all of these items in there. Why? You know, doesn't that seem a bit overkill to you? I mean, at the most, you need the large knife and maybe a small multi-tool and possibly the hatchet or a tomahawk. Now, I get it. You. I know you're thinking why you need the shovel, why you need the machete, the saw, the neck knife, and all that stuff.
Starting point is 04:13:17 But if you have the right survival knife, the right hatchet and a good leatherman multi-tool that already has a saw and all that other stuff in it, chances are you can handle most anything that comes. Okay. Most of the stuff that's going to come your way, you should be able to handle without a problem. Not to mention all the items that can be improvised to perform the tasks that these tools, would have performed anyway. On top of that, you consider the savings in the weight department, okay? It'll make a huge difference. Okay, I just looked at the chat room there, and Jay Fergie was mentioning that they have several knives,
Starting point is 04:13:56 but she's a knife girl, so that makes sense. You know, a lot of preppers are knife people, and that's why I talk about knives a lot, and I like to recommend good companies that you can get a knife. a good knife, a good hatchet, a good, you know, any kind of a good edged weapon. Edged weapons are definitely my first love. You know, I had a subscription to guns and ammo from the time I was eight years old, and I remember looking at the knives all the time. The other magazine I had a subscription to when I was eight years old,
Starting point is 04:14:33 Soldier of Fortune. I know some of you guys out there probably remember Soldier of Fortune. No, not Playboy. The chat room, they said I had a subscription to Playboy. No, I did not. Okay, so like we were saying, you know, we're talking about optimizing and streamlining your bugout bag. Another thing to consider when you're looking at your bugout bag is like we were saying, wait. One of the things that creates the most weight in your bag is going to be ammunition and fire.
Starting point is 04:15:10 That's my big boy right there. This is the gunmetal armory. So optimization of ammo and firearms, but more so than anything else, is the ammunition. Depending on what kind of guns and ammo you're carrying, how many mags, different caliber cleaning kits, and so on, you can likely leave a few items back at HQ. instead of cleaning kit for each caliber, carry a couple boar snakes, carry a handkerchief, some oil, and some solvent
Starting point is 04:15:47 in like a small hotel shampoo-sized bottle. It shouldn't weigh much of anything. Keep in mind, a bug-out bag is more of a 72-hour kit. So you're not going to need a crap load of gun oil. You're not going to need a whole bunch of solvents. You're not trying to make this gun sparkling clean with your cleaning kit, okay? You just want it to be clean enough to continue working.
Starting point is 04:16:12 Of course, if you're running an AK-47, you might not need to clean it much at all. I've told you guys about this before, but for the new listeners, I remember talking to a buddy of mine that was over in Afghanistan, and he said he remembered seeing the Afghani soldiers cleaning their AK-47s, and they would take their bootlaces off, tie their bootlaces, into knots, dip them in motor oil, and pull it through the barrel. And that was clean enough for them. Now, I wouldn't recommend that for an AR-15 or, you know, most of the other rifles that Preppers might be carrying. I guess if that's okay for them, then that's okay for them. But anyways, yeah, just carry those couple of things. Instead of a big cleaning kit for each caliber, a couple of boar snakes, a handkerchief or two, some oil, some solvent and a small hand-a-smobile, small hotel shampoo size box. Shouldn't weigh much of anything, and it should cover the cleaning needs of any firearm as long as you bring the appropriate boar snakes, okay? Also, many preppers fail to consider this stuff, okay?
Starting point is 04:17:21 You've got to look at how much ammo you're carrying. Again, it is just a 72-hour kit. How many threats do you think you're going to run into in 72 hours? No, this is not the Walking Dead. You're not going to run into that many threats, but you may run into some, okay? But you don't need an entire load out like a soldier would. It's only 72 hours, okay? So keep that in mind when packing.
Starting point is 04:17:52 You know, maybe three or four mags, maybe a couple hundred rounds of ammo for the rifle, and maybe, I don't know, 50 or 100 for the pistol. You don't need a whole lot. But one thing you do need to look at, and this is something that a lot of people don't think about, is the outfit that you're wearing when you have your bugout bag on. Okay? You've got to look at your outfit and what you can carry in those pockets, guys. The pockets that you have on your clothing or BDUs or ACUs, you got to keep in mind how to spread out that weight throughout your outfit. what type of clothing would make that easier.
Starting point is 04:18:39 Of course, you're going to have your own version of the famous bugout bag, but you don't want to get stuck carrying all that weight on your back. Normally, I try not to suggest military equipment or military clothing, especially military clothing, like ACUs or BDUs, because frankly, it paints a big-ass target on your back, okay? if if a bad person is out there in a post-apocalyptic world and they see somebody walking around in multicam, they're probably going to do something bad. I mean, that's the bottom line. Military clothing does not attract anything good, especially when that person is by themselves, all right?
Starting point is 04:19:23 This is speaking in a post-apocalyptic world. Currently, it's not a bad thing at all. It's fine. But I digress. there there is no doubt though you know even if it does paint a big target on your back you know there's no doubt that the ACUs and BDUs actually it offers advantages over the average pair of jeans and the amount of pockets it has available to store gear in are more than most other pants out there um you I don't know if you know this or
Starting point is 04:20:01 but the ACUs or BDUs, they've got thigh pockets, they've got front slash pockets, they've got two rear position pockets, and two calf pockets. If you decide to wear ACU pants, be sure that you keep the heavy crap out of your lower calf pockets because that's going to suck. If you try to run with heavy stuff in your calf pockets, it's not going to be good. You're not going to like it at all. Also, don't put anything too valuable, like your map or your compass, in a pocket without a button or Velcro. Put the spare med kit in a cargo pocket, maybe some spare magazines. But, again, be aware of how heavy this stuff can be. If you're deploying with something like a battle belt or a rigors belt and you have any kind of a drop-leg platform,
Starting point is 04:20:58 on there. For you, those of you that don't know, a drop leg platform, it's like a holster with a longer belt loop that hangs down to where your thigh is, okay? And it usually has one or two straps that go around the leg. They have holsters, they have plates, they have, they even have bulletproof ones. They have all different types. So keep in mind, if you are wearing a battle belt that has any kind of drop leg platform or any kind of riggers belt with a drop leg platform, you have to consider the thigh straps, okay? The thigh straps, if they interfere with the cargo pocket, you may not want to carry that med kit in that cargo pocket
Starting point is 04:21:43 because it may interfere with that strap, and you may not be able to get it out when you need it. The same general idea applies to a jacket or the BDU jacket if you decide to go that route. you got to always use the pockets to help you distribute weight, but remember to be cognizant of your load-bearing equipment. Because some people, especially with the battle belts, they even have shoulder straps and suspenders on them
Starting point is 04:22:11 that help to distribute the load. But if you're wearing a BDU top and you've got all those pockets, those straps can go right over top of those pockets and push into your chest, and you're not going to like that. So keep that stuff in mind. Make sure you allow access to your BDU pockets or to your pants pockets. Either way. All right.
Starting point is 04:22:36 As far as clothing goes to, what type you're going to wear is going to be a personal choice for you and your family, something you need to make among your family. Because like I already said, military clothing makes you a huge target for miles around. Whereas normal everyday gray man gear clothing, that actually, that's, that's not so bad. That helps you blend in a whole lot better. On the other hand, the utility of BDAUs again, it's quite clear. So, you know, it's a personal choice, but a happy medium might be something like real tree camo, you know, something like that with various clothing built for hunters.
Starting point is 04:23:15 The designs are usually bound to have a lot of pocket space, plenty of options when it comes to color, environment. You know, heck, some of them even have scent lock, you know, that system that helps keep your human scent in when you're hunting animals. You know, I don't think it works completely, but it can help. Why not, right? Especially if the enemy is using tracking dogs or, you know, you're trying to get a deer for your family. That could be a very good thing, right? So those are a big idea to look at and keep in mind.
Starting point is 04:23:50 Keep that in your toolbox, okay, guys. there are just some of the many ways to streamline your gear. Always be on the lookout for those different things that you can do and any items that you can eliminate. I usually like to run through my gear and process out stuff that's not needed every couple months. Now, some people don't. Some people just pack their freaking bug out bag and put it right over against the door and that's it. They don't think about it ever again. But that's not me. I like to look through it all the time because maybe I got something new. Maybe I got something better. You've got to make sure that everything in there is as good as it can be. But I'll talk to you more about that in a few minutes here. You know, your results. Another way to cut weight in your bug out bag. Another way to streamline it is by cutting weight by removing your sleeping bag and your tent. Now, I
Starting point is 04:24:52 know what you're thinking. You're crazy. How am I going to sleep? I'm going to die of hypothermia. Not necessarily. You can replace them with a jungle hammock and an emergency bivvy or space blanket like the SOL one I mentioned on previous shows. The OD Green Escape Bivvy. It actually pairs really well with a jungle hammock. you've got to be sure when you're using a jungle hammock or any type of hammock sleeping out in the wild you've got to be sure to cover underneath and around you there you can get extremely cold out there if you don't cover around you in fact some companies like in the chat room they just mentioned hennessee hammock some companies out there actually make hammock quilt for underneath the hammock they make ones that go under it. They make ones that go under you.
Starting point is 04:25:48 They even make little bags that you can get into that's similar to a sleeping bag, but it's built for a hammock. So that's something to look at and keep in mind. And that's another good thing. They just mentioned in the chat room, keep insulated underwear. If you're going to sleep
Starting point is 04:26:04 like that, you know, and use the emergency bivvy or the space blanket, you want to be sure to wear some heavy clothing because you're going to have the hammock, you're going to have the bivie bag, or the space blanket wrapped around you, but you're all going to need some heavy clothing to wear as well. You can also bring, what was the other thing that I was trying to think of it?
Starting point is 04:26:25 Ah, yes, it's a microfiber mummy sleeping bag liner, okay? You know, the sleeping bag liners that you can put inside of a sleeping bag so you don't have to get the smell of your friend on you or whatever, you know, those are really, really good to keep with you when you're using a hammock for camping because they're, They can aid in keeping you warm. They can really help keep you warm. And again, they keep the weight to a minimum. All right.
Starting point is 04:26:54 So the jungle hammock that I really like is the – it's actually made by a company called SnugPack, S-N-U-G-P-A-K, Snug-Pack. It's pretty easy to find on Amazon. You just type in Snug-Pack Jungle Hammack, and I believe it's something like $46 or $47, something like, something like, like that. The Alps microfiber mummy sleeping bag liner is also available at Amazon for 2497. And then finally, the OD Green Escape Bibi is also available at Amazon for like $35 or $36, something like that. Okay. Those three things carried in your bug out bag should in most environments, not all,
Starting point is 04:27:40 but in a lot of environments should be able to prevent you from needing a real big heavy tent and a huge heavy sleeping bag. That's one of those things you want to make sure if you don't need it, you're not carrying it because believe you, me, that stuff gets heavy, okay? All right, James, I think I'm going to go ahead and take a break here and we'll be right back, guys. Okay, it looks like we are back. on the gunmetal armory. Okay, guys, next up, we are going to talk about products that you may not have heard of before that you can put in your bugout bag, okay? Some of this stuff I've spoken with you guys about before, all right?
Starting point is 04:28:27 Things like the fire cord from live fire gear, mora knives, you know, various different types of fire starting items, different ammo types. Hey, Rattler straps, fire... Laces, you know, which we just gave away some for you guys that are getting here late. Numerous Shomartek items for Escape and Evasion and many, many more products, guys. We've talked about a lot of them. But here are some of the items and different companies that I have not talked a lot about. There are a couple of different companies out there that I buy a lot of stuff from.
Starting point is 04:29:08 one of them is DPX NICE, Delta Papa X-ray, DPX Nives, which actually I think stands for dangerous products extreme or something in that vein. NSR Tactical Holsters, they're a local company here in Arizona up in Chino Valley. They literally make some of the nicest Kidex holsters. I've seen in my life. I've made lots of Kidex myself. You know, when I've made knives, I've made my own holsters. I've worked with Kidex for a long time, guys.
Starting point is 04:29:49 And these guys are literally some of the best out there. That's just, you know, I'm not being paid by them. I have only met one guy from their company, but that's the truth. They're some of the best out there. Another good company that I've actually mentioned before is Seer Pick. S-E-R-E-P-I-C-K, Sear-P-E-N-E products. Those guys make some really cool escape and evasion gear. Let's see, Sparrow lockpicking gear.
Starting point is 04:30:21 Sparrow makes some of the nicer lock-picking tools on the market right now. One thing that I would suggest getting from them is the door lock beginners kit. It comes with, I believe, four or five lock. and the first lock has one pin in the tumbler to unlock it. The second one has two pins and then three pins, four pins, and five pins. So you get used to picking locks progressively. It's a really good system, guys, and it actually, if I remember correctly, it comes with some lock picks and an instruction manual.
Starting point is 04:31:00 So you might consider checking something like that out if you want to add the skill of lock picking to your prepper toolbox. You know, it may not be the worst thing. You can't always bash through things with a sludgehammer and a halogen tool. Maybe you can. Okay, you can. But maybe you don't want them to know that you were there.
Starting point is 04:31:25 Maybe that's why you would want to use the lock picking skills. Okay. Next up, double tap ammo. Double tap ammo and double tap door breaching gear. Two separate companies, but both make really, really high-end stuff. Double Tap ammo was one of the first ammunition companies I had ever seen to put multiple projectiles in one round, or in one round. Multiple projectiles in one round. It's a very, very interesting concept what these guys can do.
Starting point is 04:32:01 Double-tap door breaching gear, these guys actually make. hammers, halogen tools, different types of sludge hammers that are actually expandable. They have a collar on the end of the handle that you can unscrew, and the handle will actually double in size. So you can get a lot more momentum when you're hitting a door or a car or whatever you're going to hit with a sludge hammer. I don't know. But they're expandable, and they can actually be minimized so they can fit in your pack. So double-tap door breaching gear, another good one to look at. Armour Light and Tawatech watches.
Starting point is 04:32:43 Those are two different companies that I wear watches from, and they both have Tritium inside their watches. I like Tritium. It's actually a radioactive isotope that is used for night sites, for compasses, for watches, and for even exit signs. have tritium in them these days. Definitely a good thing to have, you know, a watch with tritium in it because usually if you get the right stuff, it will actually glow for anywhere from 10 to 20 years, okay? Like, for example, if you don't know what tritium is, if you have a handgun or a rifle and you've ever looked at the sights in the dark, even after it's been dark in the room for an hour or two hours, the sights are still glowing. chances are they're night sites, okay? Or you can look at the side of the sites,
Starting point is 04:33:38 and if it says H3 or Hotel 3, H3 on the side, it's Swiss tritium. It's made in Switzerland. Something to consider there, okay? All right. Another good company, North American Rescue and North American Arms, or NAA. North American Rescue make some of the nicest rescue equipment
Starting point is 04:34:00 on the planet. it. I love their stuff. If I remember correctly, they're also the ones that provide the world with the cats tourniquet. And no, I'm not talking about a main coon. I'm talking about cats. Okay? North American Arms, on the other hand, is something that you actually might need North American Rescue Cat Turnicate for. No, I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 04:34:23 North American Arms makes stuff like the pug microrevolver, the Sidewinder Minutes. revolver. I actually have a pug mini revolver in 22 Magnum and I have a let's see. Oh, I have a sidewinder in 22 Magnum as well. They're really great to have and really great to carry on you
Starting point is 04:34:45 because they're so tiny. Okay? Let's see. The next company, Chiapa Firearms. Chioppa Firearms actually took up the patent from Springfield Armory and started
Starting point is 04:35:01 making the M6 survival rifle. Some of you old timers out there may actually have an M6 survival rifle. They were made by Springfield Armory a long time ago, and they fold up. They're mostly made a metal, and inside the stock, the old ones mostly made a metal. And inside the stock, they can store a couple of shotgun shells and some 22 shells. because the M6 survival rifle is actually an over-under barrel system. The barrel on top, I believe, is a 22LR barrel, and the barrel on the bottom is either a 4-10 shotgun barrel or a 12-gauge barrel.
Starting point is 04:35:47 But if I remember correctly, Chiapa has started making some other different versions of it. I think they have a 2-23 over 12-gauge version at the moment which would be a really interesting one to get my hands on. I'd love to get my hands on one of those. They also make a small survival rifle
Starting point is 04:36:10 called the Badger 22 or the Little Badger 22. That one also folds up and I think it comes in 22 LR and 22 Magnum and it's only a single shot, but it's super lightweight. Like, you don't even know you have it on you, okay?
Starting point is 04:36:31 Another good company for knives. Pole Force, knives. They come out of Germany. P-O-H-L, pole force. They make some really good stuff, really heavy-duty folders, okay? Lion Steel of Italy and Fox Knives of Italy. Both of them make some really nice knives. X-Gos, Woon Seal, and Celox are really good blood stoppers.
Starting point is 04:37:00 Rats, R-A-T-S, and cats, C-A-T-S. Terniquets are really good. And soft T, if you can afford them as well, SWAT-T, both, all very, very good tourniquets. Chinook Medical also makes really, really good medical, what do they call them, modules. They have these modules. that they make with medical equipment in them for like a dental emergency or a blood emergency
Starting point is 04:37:29 or I don't know they just have a ton of different modules that you can buy and if you're in the medical field you'll have access to even more of their stuff anyways I could go on and on and on all night about these different companies but you know to probably stop okay so you can also you can check into these companies because each one definitely has unique specialized gear to offer the prepper and the survivalist. One of the hardest things to get, you know, one of the hardest things when getting into prepping is to separate the good quality gear from the crap. You know, that's the bottom line, separating the good quality gear from the absolute
Starting point is 04:38:14 crap and the quality advice from the malarkey, okay? it's extremely difficult to know if you're getting a good deal on good gear or if you're getting a good deal on gear that's going to fail you in a few months or even a few days down the road. Now, one of the things that they're talking about in the chat room right now is, oh, you remember I was just talking about the North American Arms pug. You know, Jay Fergie was just saying that she's going to be buying herself a pug for her birthday, which is good.
Starting point is 04:38:45 That's a very, very nice one. Make sure that when you get that pug, you either get the 22 Magnum version or you get the version with the 22 Magnum cylinder and the 22 LR cylinder. They do make both models. They also make one with a folding grip that you can buy or you can buy the folding grip separately from North AmericanArms.com. Okay? That's a take look out there. Let's see here. Uh, that nub in the chat room also mentioned that they want an MSK1 knife.
Starting point is 04:39:24 I don't know what an MSK1 knife is, but I would definitely be wanting to see it. Uh, oh, there's a link in the chat room from Kickstarter. I'll have to take a look at that when I get a chance. All right. Let's see here. So we were just talking about getting quality gear and gear that is good and gear that is good, and gear that is crap, okay? So I know a lot of you guys out there probably struggle with finances.
Starting point is 04:39:53 Almost everybody does, man. It seems like nobody ever has enough money, okay? But what do you think is smarter when you're planning to save your own life or the lives of your family? Do you think it's smarter to spend $10, 10 times, for 10 cheap Chinese knockoff knives? Or would it be smarter to spend $100 one time and get a good solid knife that you know you can depend on? It is a rocket science, guys.
Starting point is 04:40:27 It's just what it really comes down to is it's a lot of reading, it's a lot of researching gear and smart buying. When I was younger, I didn't know the difference. And I bought gear of all types and all price points. you know, some of the gear was awesome and some was not, okay? But, you know, and some was just so-so. But I've gone through a lot of it. I've already made the mistakes for you, okay? And I've already found a bunch of kick-ass gear that you're going to want.
Starting point is 04:41:04 That's why I tell you about this stuff all the time is because I don't want you making the same mistakes that I did, okay? don't think though that just because something is inexpensive that it's crappy okay the the one thing that you need to look at especially the best example i can give you that just because a knife or any item isn't expensive doesn't mean it's not good quality is the mora knife m o r a mora they're made in sweden these are some of the nicest knives on the planet and some of the best priced knives on the planet. Okay? You can get a basic Mora companion for like 15 bucks. I mean, you really honestly can't beat that. It's a good knife. It's got a scandy grind or a zero grind on it. Easy to resharpen. Love those things. Cannot say enough good things about those guys. And no, they don't pay me. Okay. Anyways, we're talking about gear and what's smarter to do to spend, you know, a decent amount of money initially and be upset that you spend a whole bunch of money.
Starting point is 04:42:12 but you've got good gear or to buy a whole bunch of crap, a whole bunch of times over, and spend the same amount of money anyway. Okay? You know, you guys have to keep in mind that I'm not just a gun and ammo guy. I have a lot of other interests and a lot of other collections that I keep hidden in the gunmetal armory. So I strive to get the best possible gear that I can afford.
Starting point is 04:42:35 Like another good example is DAS masks. I know there's a lot of Milsurp gas masks out there, okay? But gas masks are extremely important to get good ones, okay? Have to get good gas masks, all right? Most of my gas masks run anywhere from $300 to $500 each, okay? That's not to say you just have to, but mine do. because I figure if the day comes where I'm going to need one of those gas masks, I'd rather not trust my life to a $20 milsurp gas mask.
Starting point is 04:43:19 You dig what I'm saying? Okay. The next thing we're going to talk about is some frugal bugout bag ideas. But I want to look in the chat room for one second here. Okay, they're talking about survival knives, a couple of different companies. Are you asking if I... knit? No, I don't knit.
Starting point is 04:43:43 And another person asked if I, if I have a cannon. No, I do not have a canon yet. But maybe someday soon. You never know. It could happen. All right, let's see here. We were going to talk about frugal bugout bag ideas.
Starting point is 04:44:02 You know, we've all heard of the Vaseline-soaked cotton ball. But another thing you can do, you can actually soak the little cotton makeup remover pads. Those are great, man. I like to use the cotton balls too, but the pads are able to be cut up into sections for smaller fires or for multiple fires if you want to. So you can look at using the makeup remover pads too. That's definitely a good option there.
Starting point is 04:44:31 Okay. you can also, instead of buying those fire stick fire starter aids, you can actually just take, let's see, maybe four or six of the Strike Anywhere matches, and you can glue or you can tape together the handles on them or the wood parts on them, and you can dip the tips, the fire side of them, if you will, into wax to help with the waterproofing, carry a few of those to help you start a fire when you're having trouble. starting one. Okay. Now, I'm sure a lot of you guys have seen those cotton balls and hot wax that are poured into a cardboard egg carton to make fire starters, but I find the shape afterwards to be a bit hard to pack. So I actually like to use tuna cans or the bottoms of aluminum cans. Now, they're not going to be as easy to get out, but that's what I like to use. You know, you can cut the aluminum can to about an inch tall and put the hot wax and cotton or hot wax with what's a laundry lint, like pocket lint. You can put pocket lint and wax poured into the aluminum can.
Starting point is 04:45:50 Let's see here. Keep in mind, you don't always have to buy the cotton balls either. This is actually a tip from my wife. she said that if you want cotton that you you know you don't have to buy cotton balls you can actually look in your medicine bottles or in your vitamin bottles because most of the time
Starting point is 04:46:11 well not all the time but a lot of the time there's cotton packing inside of those medicine bottles it's quite common in certain over-the-counter medications and in a lot of vitamin bottles okay and as a fast little side note another thing to keep your eye out for inside of medicine bottles is those little desiccant gels okay the little waterproofing or not waterproofing but moisture absorption gel packets those things are great man if you keep one of those in your backpack or keep a few of those in your pack with your gear keep it close to your knives keep it close to your ammunition heck save them all and put them into your gun safe or your gunmetal armory and you know keep the moisture away from your guns and your ammo and you know keep the moisture away from your guns and your ammo and
Starting point is 04:46:57 and stuff like that, okay? A lot of people use them in their safe, and you can't do. There's no reason you can't, okay? You can also use Descan, like I said, in your backpack to keep moisture away from your spare ammo, from your knives, as well as other areas that you prefer to keep dry, okay?
Starting point is 04:47:13 Let's see here. Some more of the frugal bugout bag ideas, you can use paper clips to make fish hooks and rod guides. By the way, rod guides are for keeping the fishing line on the fishing pool. I'm sure you guys know this. Okay, fish hooks can also be made from soda pop tops. I'm sure you guys seen that.
Starting point is 04:47:32 It costs nothing but time, and there's multiple tutorials online. Another item you can carry in your bug out bag that weighs almost nothing that will provide some comfort of those restaurant-sized single-serving salt and pepper packets for seasoning any food that you may catch or kill in the wild, okay? as well as those little single-serving red pepper packets from pizza places, those are awesome to have, especially if you just killed some animal that you don't know what it is or you know what it is, but you don't know how it's going to taste.
Starting point is 04:48:07 Little salt and pepper or maybe some red peppers, you're going to feel a lot better about it. Trust me. There's another thing that I've always wanted to try, but I've never tried. You see it on cooking shows sometimes, and you can find it on Amazon. It's called miracle fruit. They say it's like an acid trip for your tongue.
Starting point is 04:48:28 They say that when you try something sweet, it tastes sour. We try something sour, it tastes sweet. I've always thought that maybe that miracle fruit, it comes in powders and it comes in pills and things like that. I've always thought that if you were to take that miracle fruit with you in your bugout bag, it might be easier to suck some of the things. things that you might not want to eat if it didn't taste like something terrible, if it tasted sweet or if it tasted savory.
Starting point is 04:48:58 You know, it might be something worth looking into, but it's just my own personal thing there. Let's see here. You can also get a get and carry a handful of those Purell ones from Chick-fil-A or from KFC if you want a way to sanitize your hands on the go. but be sure that you understand exactly what pure kills and what it doesn't kill. And another good one is coffee filters are good for beginning to or helping strain bad water. Okay. All right, let's take a look at the chat room here real quick. Yeah, yeah, they're talking about the guys at Titan Survivor Chord.
Starting point is 04:49:43 Yeah, I actually have some of that Titan Survivor cord. That stuff is really nice. Don't get me wrong. The fire, the fire cord stuff, Fire cord, Life Fire 550 cord is really good stuff too. But the Titan cord is really nice stuff. Just got some of it. Really, really cool, guys.
Starting point is 04:50:00 You can definitely bet that that stuff is cool. Don't hesitate to pick some up, definitely. Another recommendation from the chat room is to get some shock cord. Shock cord is really, really good stuff, guys. Highlander says it has a million different uses. Definitely good stuff. All right. Let's see here.
Starting point is 04:50:23 You can also, oh, yeah, I talk about the Pure Old Wipes. That's a good thing to pick up if you get the chance. All right. Another great fire starter item to keep a few in your pack is those terrific relighting birthday candles. You should be easy to get to your local dollar store. You can find them cheap. You can get enough of those for your family. It's a good thing to have.
Starting point is 04:50:45 You can also carry a couple of those spark. that you get on the 4th of July. Those things are awesome, man. They make great fire starters. You can use them to ignite thermite, too, if you happen to have thermite laying around. I don't know who does, but I don't. But if you have the right laying around that needs lighting,
Starting point is 04:51:07 you can use a sparkler, or you can scrape the powder chemicals off, off the little piece of metal that they come on as a sparkler, and keep the powder. If you want to use that powder similar to how you would, use powder magnesium for making a fire. Let's see. Crayons can be used for fire starters.
Starting point is 04:51:26 Highlander in the chat room said you can use a Fresnel lens. Great thing. Those work good. You can use alcohol swabs from your med kit to make a fire. Nine-volt bat and steel wool, as we all know. All kinds of stuff like that is really, really good stuff for making fire and things of that nature. Okay, guys. All right, well, we are coming down to the end here.
Starting point is 04:51:52 So what I want to do is I want to give away that book, okay? So I'm going to go back up and look up what the book is. All right, let's see here. The name of the book is called the Preppers Survival Retreat. Okay, or Preper's Survival Retreats. It's written by a gentleman name. named Charlie Hogwood. Okay.
Starting point is 04:52:21 If you go to Amazon, you can actually read his bio. I mean, this guy, this guy's got skills, man. I mean, he's got certification after certification, and he's got a heck of a lot of skills. So definitely want to check out his bio if you get a chance. So the description is, the big question for a lot of preppers
Starting point is 04:52:44 is simply, where do we go? There are a variety of options available, so how do you know what's best for you and your family? In this book, you'll learn how to break down the task of strategic location into a manageable plan of action, including picking a geographical location, area reconnaissance and intel gathering, home and land buying basics, off-grid options, let's see, home fortifications, and, building a retreat for you, for your group, and for your community. This looks like an interesting book, guys. This is definitely one that I would not have a problem getting myself. But, you know, I'm a host here, so I can't get one of these unless I buy it. All right.
Starting point is 04:53:35 Okay. Time for the giveaway, because we only have a couple minutes left. So I'm going to do another question, and it is going to be based on ammunition again. And hopefully this one is simple enough for everyone, okay? I want to look over here at the chat room, see who we got in the chat room here. All right, we've got a good bunch of people here chatting, so this should be just fine. All right. Let's see.
Starting point is 04:54:04 The question is, what does the ACP in 45 ACP mean? If anyone knows, it's still free to answer or you can call it in too. That's fine with me. If no one gets the answer in the next couple of minutes or the next minute or so, then... Yep, somebody got it. Automatic Colt Pistol. You are correct. Elks won that one.
Starting point is 04:54:42 Automatic Colt Pistol. You are correct. Elks has won the book. All right. We need to let G-Man know. that Elks won the book, and I believe the other person needs to email me and let me know that their address so I can send them the Flint Laces. Okay?
Starting point is 04:55:04 All right, guys. I appreciate you guys joining me tonight. We're ready to go here. Don't forget to check out reality check tomorrow night. Michael Klein is a cool cat, man. I've been listening to him for a while now. I really like him. All right?
Starting point is 04:55:19 Check him out, okay? I want to leave you guys with a Chinese proverb. It goes, I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand. Okay? Something to ponder. Don't forget, if you have any gunsmithing questions,
Starting point is 04:55:35 you want me to answer on air, email me at my usual address. Good night, team gun metal, and join us next week as we find ourselves deeper inside the gun metal armory. Urban survival simulation. This is Gothel Get out
Starting point is 04:55:59 All right This is future day and 912 p.m. Eastern 200 meters from the finish line I just attempted to upload but I don't think it worked So I'm doing it again
Starting point is 04:56:18 I've upcycled some Basically gym matting That's going to be great to sleep on out here A curtain rod Took it apart Pretty much in the shape of a billy club So I upgraded my weaponry When you take that Billy Club and loop it through two handles of a beach bag I found,
Starting point is 04:56:39 I have improved and expanded load carriage. Inside of that new container, I've added a used comforter, which is going to be pretty good to sleep with tonight. Yes, I plan to get sleep. And honestly, I don't think I need a fire. I think I could do it right now. I got small diameter PVC piping that if I could find a way to get the dart together I might be able to make a blow dart plastic sheeting so I can wrap myself up in the plastic sheeting and the comforter and lay on these pads
Starting point is 04:57:12 and get some rack and got everything that I've mentioned previously a couple racquetball size throwing stones I haven't seen any game that would be worth throwing it at. And of course, from my first cache, I got essentially everything I needed to make a fire. But in my second cache, I found a couple lighters and batteries. So it's really no excuse to not have a fire at this point. I'm going to move to the finish line, send in my time, move into the area where we're going to spend the night for the team portion and see if I can get fire ready for my current.
Starting point is 04:57:53 contestants and competitors but soon to be teammates. Future Dan out. Urban survival simulation. This is Gotham. All right, we finished. We are our team. We are here. Gotham Get Out, Phase 2.
Starting point is 04:58:24 Congratulations, gentlemen. We did it. Phase 2, team event. Yeah, okay. So James, how'd it go? It went really well. I was never really cold, to be honest with you. I had to slow down a little bit because I was getting sweaty.
Starting point is 04:58:38 But I was just as warm as you could be, man. Well, our hands have been a little bit cold while we were waiting to get teamed up here at the end. Oh, well, you were waiting on me. That's my fault. Well, temperatures are dropping, too. So this isn't over. It's going to be surviving the night. But the good news is I think we found everything it takes to make fire in multiple ways.
Starting point is 04:59:01 Oh, man. Yeah, the Jones has definitely hooked it up. They hooked it up. How was your trip, Baxter Breaker? I wasn't terribly cold except a couple times. I got in like a couple wind alleys. And it was just, it wasn't horrible, but it was, you know, 15 mile an hour. And it's, you know, 28 degrees.
Starting point is 04:59:18 So wind chills a little nippy. Made me remember back at like Purdue when I had to walk to class in that type of weather. When I would stop to broadcast or stop to do look at the caches or whatever, that's when I started to be like, oh, it's cold. Like I would, I would drink my water. and be like, oh, it's cold. I honestly didn't drink much water for that reason. I need to hydrate. How much water did you drink?
Starting point is 04:59:39 Not a whole bottle or anything. Whatever. Let me take my back off of my gosh. I probably drank. I actually need to drink a lot probably because I did not drink much. I probably only drank 48 ounces, maybe, less than 48 ounces. That's all I drunk. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 04:59:52 That's freezing. I left it on the outside. You drank a third of a 12-ounce bottle, that's it. Wow. So you drank four ounces. That was it. I drank four of those. Dang.
Starting point is 05:00:04 You and I... So we got plenty. And I still feel dehydrated, but it's cold. I didn't want to get too cold. But I actually, a couple of times I had to slow down, especially going up a couple hills. I did a couple shortcuts, and I was kind of going up a hill quickly. Then I realized, oh, shit, like, I can feel the sweat dripping down my back. I got to stop.
Starting point is 05:00:22 Yeah, that was the deal. So, James, for the audience, can you describe, in general terms? This is Opseki. Your word. Love it. but generally like where we're at tonight and what we're going to try to accomplish yeah so we're we're largely in a relatively sort of a thin layer of snow covered park that is half hardwood half evergreen and we're going to go off into these woods now and we've been
Starting point is 05:00:52 pretty well equipped so this is you know you were worried about the lighting yeah it was but there's a lot of ambient light in the summer it's not bad right here yeah I'm worried about it in there. You can still see your hands. You can see your objects. I'll say this. I mentioned this in one of my daily audio caches. We got some glow sticks too.
Starting point is 05:01:10 Exactly. We got a lot of those. My bankster breaker. One of my, you know, tonight when I was going through Sol, an individual portion, about how actually, if it was a grid down bug out, it'd be pitch blackout. Yeah. Lighting would be a different matter. And then security would be obviously for real.
Starting point is 05:01:29 and now you've got a significant challenge. How do you get, how do you navigate with light? And I swear to God, you just like, and not give you away your position. And just not stepping in a hole and breaking your leg, too. Yep. Oh, yeah, that's the, definitely. So I stayed mostly to sidewalks and move fast.
Starting point is 05:01:47 Yeah. One guy was walking his dog and said something to me. And I was like, I kept on cruising right by. Because I almost got hit by a car and a guy pulled over and said, Hey, you got to look left and right. I almost hit you. No way. I was like, oh, I'm done.
Starting point is 05:02:06 And that was before I knew I was already, I laughed. But again, this isn't not, first time you saw any of this terrain was today. Oh, yeah, I've never even been. How many wrong turns did you think you made? Oh, nothing zero. Okay, well, that's good. Oh, no, that was good. The only trouble I had, I was sitting down drinking, planning.
Starting point is 05:02:26 I went from each cash then planned my next move, accordingly to the next cash. You know what I mean? And as I was looking over the map, I was like, I don't remember where this place was. Because in my head I was like, Outback, Outback, Outback. And then I realized if I search an Outback. It may not be there.
Starting point is 05:02:42 Yeah. So it was good, you know. So a little bit of admin move to ensure we were safe, right? We're using text messaging. We got our phones. We're obviously doing broadcast on the phones. We're now at our. cars but we're not warming up in our cars we're we're using them to charge our phones and
Starting point is 05:03:04 replenish water and that's just for safety off in the distance we got a large brand name hotel and passed out a mall in the distance we have multiple lights you can see rows of townhouses this is serious suburbia you possibly can hear the traffic behind us this park is you know on the edge of suburbia tucked in between two eight-lane highways, and it's got a little low ground in there, and I think we found everything it takes to make a fire. Oh, yeah. So, Ben, maybe share with James. We talked to Dave about this a minute ago, the strategy on the fire tonight.
Starting point is 05:03:47 Well, I know we're going to try to, first off, have started the most difficult way first. We're not just going to use our easiest tools. You're not just going to go lighters and candles? No. Well, I found half-used lighters, so we got that. That counts. Oh, you found them. Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 05:04:04 Oh, I thought you got those in a cash. No. At the, yeah, we came across donation stations, right? It had stuff out in front of them, and lo and behold. But, yeah, we got all kinds of things that the Joneses put into cashes. They're going to be more challenging to make fire. So we're going to start there. I don't know how to phrase it.
Starting point is 05:04:28 I'm glad we got the cashes we got. But after the first cash and then subsequently the second cash, I wound up dumping stuff that I had found. So that's a good thing to talk about. We talked about that before. Did you? I got to a certain point where I hit my load capacity. I was traveling up a road and there was a tub on the, ground and I hadn't reached any cash as I had food yet so you know now I'm at hour 25 which in the big
Starting point is 05:05:02 scheme of things is nothing but at 25 hours out eating you feel it and I came up on this plastic tub about 12 inches by 12 inches you know and it was loaded with all these little bottles yeah and it was dark and I walked up and although my eyes saw that they were painting supplies my subconscious was just hoping there was something to eat. Like little bottles of soda was kind of how I was thinking they were. That's funny. Yeah. I happened to some really cool stuff.
Starting point is 05:05:35 I had a hose at one point. I didn't know what I was going to do with it, but I had it. I found that at that Lowe's area. And then I, somebody smashed a guard rail on one of the main roads that I was on. And, you know, the separators are all wood. Okay. That wood was all smashed and it was dense, wood, dry. And I threw that in my book bag.
Starting point is 05:05:58 You brought that? No, I threw it out because after I got... You had to make choices. Yeah, after I got that... Nice. The big bed roll thing, I was like, I'm not letting this bed roll. This thing is too valuable. We're going into the woods.
Starting point is 05:06:10 There'll be wood there. I did get a little bit of wood, though. I did get some scrap wood. Not too much. I hope to get more. I have what counts as Tinder and I have what counts as kindling. Oh, okay. But the wood itself in those woods got snowed on last night.
Starting point is 05:06:26 So this fire is not a foregone conclusion. Keeping it going is going to be the challenge. Because we don't have anything to split wood with. We don't have anything to make real fuel. You know what I mean for a fire? So that's going to be the challenge. It's going to be deadwood. We go and collect.
Starting point is 05:06:43 Yeah, there is a fallen one right here too. But you can see it, actually, sideways. But, you know, breaking it down. We're going to have to use the method of. sliding a log into it, prop the log up like maybe on a rock. Yes. Get our small fire going and prop some kind of, hopefully maybe a split log onto it. I think that'll be our best bet because we can't split wood.
Starting point is 05:07:06 Now, we obviously don't want to attract attention in a real scenario or in this simulation tonight. There's no posted signs that say we can't do what we're doing here. There's no signs that say you can't be in the park at night, but we don't want to press our lock. So we're going to be in some depression. Very concealed. The chances of anybody coming in here are little to none. No, not as cold as it is tonight. But I think the takeaway for me, and maybe then you can comment on this idea, is you start off and you're looking for anything that makes possible sense to scavenge.
Starting point is 05:07:42 And then you hit your load capacity. And now you've got to make choices. And now once you know you're at full capacity, you move out. And then you're seeing other stuff available in your environment. And you've got to do a rapid assessment. You got to say, all right, what condition is in? Can I make use of it in any way? And now I got to a point where it was like,
Starting point is 05:08:05 I don't want to take off of my shoulders and unload how I'm moving because it's working to swap something. But I did a few times when it was valuable enough. But there was other stuff that. There's stuff I could have right now that we probably could have upcycled and demonstrated something with that. With more carrying capacity, maybe a shopping cart. If I really wanted to play the homeless thing up, I came across a lot of cool stuff. So did that happen for you? Well, actually, my first daily audio cache while I was going through, I said I was looking for a bunch of stuff and I didn't find much of nothing.
Starting point is 05:08:45 And I decided I was just going to try to high tail it out of there instead of really. scavenged for stuff because I figured the caches would have better stuff anyway I got some dry cardboard and that's the only thing I really hung on to I found like some like metal pole that I had for a little while and I threw it out so you did find stuff like you left behind only really the metal pole and like more like cardboard I kept some of it but yeah I didn't I realized a lot of it would be junk and it'd probably be a waste but also you guys totally outdid me with regard to to your scavenging. So I was not very creative, but it also helped me move.
Starting point is 05:09:24 So, but maybe I should have gave it a little bit more. But I was looking, especially, you know, before it got really dark out and I hit some dark areas of the road, then I couldn't see anything on the ground. But even, but, you know, the first hour, it was bright. I didn't really see much. And most of it that I did, I did put back. Yeah. So the takeaway is if you have to move out of an urban area and do a bug out and
Starting point is 05:09:49 that manner. The load carriage that you've got is key, but I don't think you can necessarily plan to be able to move and not have to make choices on what you might find along the way. Oh, definitely. Yeah. Did you guys find at, uh, I was passing a big well outfitted building. I'll just go with that at one point. And making moves of my body and with my mind and, and, and, and I was thinking about how much gaming in these scenarios affects your mindset. Yeah. You know? Like I don't know.
Starting point is 05:10:28 I was making choices with food and with water early on that were exactly the things I would do in certain survival video games. And it wasn't like, what would I do in the game? It was like, you know, let's go easy on the water. It's early type of stuff, you know what I mean? And then sort of like the evasion of certain areas or they're cutting down to certain, I don't know. It just felt like I had training. in this stuff that I don't have.
Starting point is 05:10:51 And I was sitting there thinking like, man, a lot of this stuff does come from that. Like the mindset aspect of it. You know, of like I'm in an herbal, you know, getting into that sort of mindset, I think, was easy to do because of the gaming. So at this point, in the individual competition, let's do a few,
Starting point is 05:11:12 let's each try to come up with two things that, if we had to do it again, we want to sustain that kind of, success and two things that we wanted to do a little bit better. And to stimulate the thought, I kind of already have these mine in mind. So if you don't mind, I'll go first. Yeah. So I'd like to sustain the luck I had finding great stuff.
Starting point is 05:11:38 But then again, I did have my eyes scanning the whole time. I meant to be doing that. But I did find stuff including insulation that is perfectly great to sleep on. and a comforter to sleep with that I had no expectations. So my first, my cash was, first cash was, you know, beyond expectations because it was, it was, I had a Milky Way in mine. Oh, man. So I'd say, you know, you know, luck is the result of, you know, working hard at it too, right?
Starting point is 05:12:10 And, and that happened for me. So I'd like to sustain that if this ever happens again and I have to actually do this. and the other thing I'd like to sustain is just keep my wits about me to try to upcycle a few things before I got here and it wasn't necessarily easy it was hard before I had any food once I had a little bit of bite to eat off my first cache
Starting point is 05:12:33 I could apply more mental power but I felt the mental drain for improvements I don't know where the black paint I found went or the paint brushes and somewhere the original car antenna that I picked up was lost.
Starting point is 05:12:52 I don't know. It was lost. And because of the nature of the routes, we had three starting points, but we had two common caches. It turns out that in my second, or my first broadcast, beyond expectations, I was behind the dumpster and the light. It turns out that Ben had reached the same cash area,
Starting point is 05:13:16 shortly after me. Ah. And then he came strolling through, and I screwed up. Because he wasn't going to know I was there. Luckily, I'd finish my broadcast. He wasn't going to know I was there. Yeah.
Starting point is 05:13:30 But I saw him coming around the corner, and then I ducked behind the dumpster and left my bag on the ground. Yeah, I saw the bag. And he saw my bag. So I guess there's a compromise there. But another sustain is I had the time to look. I think I found your tracks coming in.
Starting point is 05:13:46 The first track, too. Yeah, if you were back there and there were tracks, it probably were mine. Just cruising right around by the McDonald's. Well, I went, so when I crossed the street, I went into that gully behind all those shrubs. Yes. But I did walk up out of there at one point. Did you walk past the drive-thru? I did not walk past the drive.
Starting point is 05:14:05 All right, then I didn't find your tracks. That's where I saw the tracks. See, I got freaked because once I passed the McDonald's, there was a dude and a pickup truck right off that little cut area. Like, you know how you have the park. lot and then there was a little cut and he was sitting there car running yeah and i was like what the there you know what i mean i didn't know i was paranoid with the caches i was definitely paranoid so i'd say my sustained is at least trying to look for people's tracks i don't think i found james in this case all right who's up two to sustains and two improves uh i like i definitely
Starting point is 05:14:37 think that the uh i definitely think that the um the caches could come later i'd like for them to come later. I felt that a lot of my drive dissipated. Oh, and also probably if we didn't communicate what we got, I think that would be better also. I didn't tell you anything. That was good. When you showed me four cans, I was like... Actually, that didn't come from my cash. Oh, that didn't. I found cans of soup. Oh. Yeah, and I also got a
Starting point is 05:15:10 whole cooking stove set in one of my caches, so we're having soup tonight. Oh, sweet. Okay. I thought those all came out of it. So, I found those. My primary concerns were food, heat, shelter tonight. You know what I mean? And everything I was thinking had a lot to do with that. In fact, if we were to do the crafting thing harder or better,
Starting point is 05:15:32 I think the conditions being a little less cold would make me want to do some stuff, right? Because 95% of my head is like, we got to beat the cold tonight. We got to beat the cold tonight. Everything you think about is we got to be, and now you got food, now I got a Milky Way. All right, I don't even care. We just got to worry about the cold tonight. So if it were, you know, a springtime or something like that, then it would be like. Did you make a weapon?
Starting point is 05:15:57 No, I was going to. I found a license plate on a bridge. And I was like, all right, I'm keeping this. And then I don't know if you guys saw it. Did you guys try to find my first cache because I did leave it relatively close by? Because I left a lot of stuff in that. So in full disclosure to the audience, we put cashes at two points, but there was also donation centers.
Starting point is 05:16:17 Yeah. And this is Saturday night. I did get a shirt from a donation center. And there was a lot of extra stuff. Won't even fit in the donation bins anymore. Oh, yeah. And that's where I got a billy club. I got a comforter.
Starting point is 05:16:31 I got another bag to carry stuff with. I jokingly walked past those books. And I found four cans, two cans of soup and two cans of beans. I had no idea that they were found. Because I got an onion from Maria, so I thought they packed them. I know the onion came. Well, maybe the onion came from Jones. I don't know.
Starting point is 05:16:49 You never know. But, yeah, what did I say? Two things I would improve and two things, what? That you would continue to do based on your performance. Oh, the clothing was perfect. Okay. Yeah, the clothing was absolutely perfect. The jacket was great.
Starting point is 05:17:05 He walked out with the best jacket. The whole setup was good as far as warmth. What else worked out really well? Well, we can come back to you. I don't, yeah. I don't know. I didn't have too many. Give it some thought, and here you go.
Starting point is 05:17:20 Banks to breaker, two sustains and two improves. Sustain. Not only did I not get lost, but every short could I took was the right decision, and every short could I did not take. Probably was the right decision not to take it. There's at least two that I'm thinking of where I'm almost positive if I took them. After I kind of thought about it more and saw where they would lead to, yeah, I probably would have had to circle back.
Starting point is 05:17:45 So, navigation, number one. Navigation, number one. Number two, hmm. I was very fast. I felt like I was fast, even though you beat me future Dan, and you totally out scavenged to me. So maybe not. I felt like my stealth was pretty good, and I was pretty fast.
Starting point is 05:18:06 And my scavenging and upcycling. I mean, upcycling and I pretty much got nothing. But the race portion of it, you'd say sustain the pace. Sustain the pace. Sustain the pace. You know what would be fun for the next go-round would be to do neutral ground totally. Oh, yeah. Because I feel like I probably had a very different time than you guys had.
Starting point is 05:18:30 You did. You did. I would have got lost. And I had a lot of fun. But we did start you at an extra donation center. Did you get anything out of that? All I took was that little shirt right there and just went on. Because I wanted to get some mileage behind me.
Starting point is 05:18:46 That place was actually really easy to navigate, though, because there was some house, townhomes back there, and I just stayed all in there off the main road most of it, until I got to the first intergalactic base. And then I decided to go out to the road because I didn't want to play around with them. But, yeah, I had a good time. Any other improves or sustains, gentlemen?
Starting point is 05:19:09 My improve would be maybe a little more creative. Kind of, well, there's two reasons, I think, maybe the scavenged. I felt a little too pressured maybe. I think you were saying it, James, that you're worried of the security part. So you, like, got the cache and got out of there ASAP. Yeah, I did. That's kind of what I did, too. Both caches, I had an issue. Okay. And in a way, like, that's a good thing.
Starting point is 05:19:30 On the other hand, that was, like, prime area to look for other stuff, too. And I totally just was like, I got to get the hell out of here. Because, really, where those caches were, were the only well-lit areas that I went through. The second cache was so bright, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, your first, my second, I think. That thing was lit up. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 05:19:51 And I had the same scenario. There was a truck parked over in a weird spot in the lot, and I was all paranoid, and I'm looking over there, and I was like, oh, boy, I don't know. There might be somebody in there. Eh, that's Dave. See you in the morning. He's going to bed. All right.
Starting point is 05:20:05 Good night, Dave Jones. Thank you for all your help. We'll be doing podcast tonight, if anybody's up. We'll probably do another couple of these. I got about 50% battery. But we're in the team phase event. And if we expand this event, this servathalon to survive with multiple dimensions, you got to scavenge, you got to up cycle, it's a race, and you got to vanish.
Starting point is 05:20:38 Gray man or just completely hide. Four dimensions, they balance each other. but if we if we can upscale this event then the team teams could form oh yeah and there could be multiple teams and so this portion tonight is really a prototype of what this event could become yeah exactly yeah hunting too not hunting but maybe team hunting you know like if we're all going to settle in a certain area at the end maybe you know you get points for finding a team So this is almost like a prepper new kind of adventure racing, geocaching. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 05:21:17 But there's other dimensions to it, right? So tonight's extra dimension is we're going to survive the night out here. Temperatures going down to 22. We got... We got some stuff. 1049 p.m. Eastern. And we're going to sign off of this broadcast. But after we get...
Starting point is 05:21:34 Make some attempts at a fire at least. We'll be back on. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. This is Gothel. Get out. Well, PBM family, the sun is up. And so were all of us. We're all alive.
Starting point is 05:22:05 Ben was kind enough to watch the fire, so we even got a little shudai out of the deal, Dan and I. Thank you for that, Ben. How was your evening? Actually, it went by pretty quick from about 3 a.m. until about 6.40. which it is now, that was fast. The, you know, the rest of the day, not as fast. But once we got a fire going and kind of chilled out, you know, pun intended.
Starting point is 05:22:34 We had a good time. We, you know, we were joking around and having a good time, too. So, yeah, I'm starting to get a little tired. I started to fall asleep at the last second here, but yeah, I didn't actually fall asleep, I think. So there we go. We made it. How about you, Dan, I feel now the sun's back.
Starting point is 05:22:50 To warm us. I'm feeling like we need to get this fire going again. You want to rock this fire one last time? Seriously cold outside. It is. It is a different atmosphere outside of our shelter than it is inside. Yeah. It's a whole other ball game.
Starting point is 05:23:07 But yeah, 22 degrees. Might have bottomed out of 21. Who knows? Damn. I mean, I'll say this. It's a little harder to stay warm around a fire than you think. Yeah. Definitely.
Starting point is 05:23:20 You can not have done this out of fire. No, without a fire, we'd have tapped it. We'd never made it, I don't think. But, uh, sun's coming up. Breakfast is on everybody's mind. Hot cup of coffee. Yeah. Could take me to another dimension right now.
Starting point is 05:23:38 Some orange juice, gets a vitamin C, get that immune system back. Yeah. Sacrifice some immune today. Oh, we definitely sacrifice some immune system today. I don't have much your report, guys, to be on. honest with you the uh the makeshift camp and everything you'll get a picture of that in the in the sometime at some point get a look at that it's nothing magic you got just take it with a grain of salt it was set up after uh what six hour hike and or four five hour hike something like that
Starting point is 05:24:15 and then uh low freezing the low freezing pitch dark no light i think we fared pretty well. I think so, too. Yeah. It sure as hell looked great to me at about four in the morning. Right. Looking at it now, maybe not as awesome. But actually pretty damn good job, I think.
Starting point is 05:24:37 All right, folks. You may get a wrap-up from everybody on the ride home or something along those lines. I guess maybe Ben and Dan should do an official mission out. over and out sort of situation because this was their baby. I was just along for the ride. All right, I'm going to go enjoy the day. We will see you guys on the flip. What is today? Sunday.
Starting point is 05:25:08 Yeah, 18th. Well, if nothing else, you'll have Sarah Hathaway later in the chamber. I don't think I have a reliance, but I'll check. All right. Adios, folks. I hope you enjoyed the omnibus, folks. I could tell you all these years, man, I sure as hell. Enjoyed making it.
Starting point is 05:25:28 And that Gotham Get Out was, it was an amazing time. I learned more about prepping that night than probably, I don't know, any class I ever took, any podcast I ever listened to, I'll tell you that. So that's the importance of doing the things. Go ahead and enjoy the rest of your wonderful Saturday. Okay. Consider joining the supporter side for ad-free people. podcast, early releases, and all the benefits of PBN family membership.
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