The Prepper Broadcasting Network - The Rising Republic: Fort Knox and Martial Law

Episode Date: March 13, 2025

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Hello everybody, welcome to the Rising Republic. It's your boy, Zell Douglas Hogan. And Ryan Buford, glad to have you. It's been a crazy, crazy, we got so much going on in the backdrop. We got some Fort Knox audits that are coming up. President Trump promised whenever he took office, he'll be running page by page, line through line through our budget, getting rid of waste, getting rid of all the unnecessary spinning that's been going on in our country.

And lo and behold, it's happening out in the, in the, everybody seems to be freaking out, Ryan, what have you heard? Well, I mean, I can't remember if we talked about any of the stuff that had been uncovered through the Doge type stuff last time we were on air, but I mean, the social security stuff that's coming out, all the things from USAID, you know, and now into Fort Knox where we're waiting to see what is in Fort Knox, what physically exists.

And I think it's a valid question. What are we dealing with? And every president kind of has just assumed that everything is good to go. And now we're starting to ask real critical thought questions of where are we as a nation, down to the point of where's the physical cash? Where is the physical backing that we used to have

before we left the gold standard? But of course it hasn't been released yet. Like what is it there? And if whether or not that's going to be released to the public or not, hopefully, you know, we'll kind of get an idea. But the fact that we're chasing down mineral reserves and resources in Ukraine as a bargaining chip kind of makes me wonder a little bit. Yeah, and there's so much stuff that just pouring through

and you got to sift almost through everything because there's so much coming out right now. I don't know how many people is employed through Doge or working for Doge, but there's so much that's being covered right now by the media. And it's kind of, you have to sift through it line by line almost as Trump has said in the past. And it's difficult to find out what is really true

and what really isn't. But one thing we know for sure is that, that everybody's buzzing about it is that there's an audit coming. There's an audit coming to Fort Knox because Fort Knox is supposed to have like 50% of America's gold reserves tied up in there and we're talking 147.3 million ounces of gold like it's huge and this is supposed to be like 50% of this of our stash yeah that's a big number.

Yeah you know I'm kind of curious we should have a certain amount and I think there's it's gonna go one of two ways either and this is kind of my conspiracy thinking either it's gonna be less than what we're supposed to have or it's gonna be significantly more than what we're supposed to have if it's a lesson what we're supposed to have that's gonna have you know an impact with regard to panic you know banking institutions you know where are we doing with fiat currency, all this kind of stuff. If it's more than what we're supposed to have,

there's gonna be a big question around the world as to where we got it from and who we took it from or what, you know, what put us in a position to where we have that kind of resources, you know, those kind of resources. So I'm kind of curious to see where it's gonna go, like what we're actually going to get out of it, but it's kind of weird because if it's not right on the money where it should be and you don't have people painting you know clay bricks gold to make it look like we have

what we're supposed to have, you know it's gonna stir a pot that most people haven't really been paying attention to and And that is the cash in their pocket or the digital number in their bank account from their paychecks, you know? I don't know what's going on, but I recently, very recently saw a YouTube video and I can't remember the amount of gold that was being moved.

But in the newscast it said that X amount, millions of whatever of gold, probably ounces of bouillon was being transferred from the Bank of England to the United States. I'm like, did you hear that too? I'm like, what's going on here? Are they trying to replace it? You know, to make it look like we're really up to par

where we're supposed to be? Yeah, I mean, that's the only thing I can think of is it's like, you know, oh, if we're gonna be audited, then if we have reserves in one location Then we need to bring them back to Fort Knox and if they're not in Fort Knox, why the hell aren't they? You know what what's going on? So I'm that's kind of got me curious too. Like what is the validity of that? Is that an accurate report of what's going on with this money from Bank of England. But I don't know, I mean, it's funny

because we see this stuff, you know, there's these broad strokes, sweeping movements and things like that that are happening with this administration one after another after another. And it's happening so fast that the media can't even keep up with it. So I think it's gonna be tricky. I mean, it has been tricky to be able

to determine the truth, but we're generally pretty good at sussing out the details, and I think this is gonna be the type of thing where you're gonna be pulling from other resources to find out why is this money moving? Where did it go? Are we bringing it back? Is it just for show? I'm looking at the independent right now,

and the independent's saying, and this was as of February 15th, 2025, it says why are the US banks flying gold from London to New York? So this is as current as Trump's administration. Now we know that there are things going on, I'm not saying that Trump's innocent, I hope to God he's not involved in this,

but it'd be hard to imagine that somebody could get into Fort Knox without Trump finding out about it, you know what I'm saying? And replacing some of that gold that is supposed to be there that isn't just to make us look good. And this could be an ally kind of a thing. That hey, you take care of us right now, we'll take care of you right, you know.

That kind of a thing, quid pro quo kind of a thing. But it goes on to say, deep under London's three needle, thread needle, street lies an intricate network of tunnels holding the world's second largest depository of gold. The Bank of England's nine heavily fortified vault holds hundreds of tons of precious metal valued at more than $252 billion.

But now they're being slowly emptied over fears that President Trump is about to start a global trade war. Okay, it goes on to say, but much of the gold hasn't shipped to New York City where the commodity is. For the moment, worth substantially more than it is in the UK capital. The US Bank, JP Morgan, and the UK's HSBC

are two of the biggest things flying the precious metal across the Atlantic. To cover losses on short positions, reports the Wall Street Journal. The disruption to the gold market and the subsequent movement of bullion from London to Manhattan appears to be consequence of Trump's looming tariff threats against imports

from the European Union entering the US. So it sounds like it might not be just hitting, you know, going into Fort Knox, per se, but just kind of entering the United States economy. So I'm not sure how that plays out and how it would look. That sounds like you got banks moving money to cover losses. Exactly. It has nothing to do with Fort Knox, kind of entering the United States economy. So I'm not sure how that plays out and how it'll look like. You got banks moving money to cover losses. Exactly.

It has nothing to do with Fort Knox, but those banks, I mean, for the United States government to hold a certain amount of gold, I'm sure there are ways for banks to be able to use similar resources for storage because it's kind of like, and they probably rent the space basically to keep their gold in that location.

I mean, I wouldn't be a bit surprised at all if that's kind of what's happening. Right. But when that's, I mean, it's telling because if banks are moving gold, and that was what, two weeks ago, that this report's coming out, that people are realizing,

oh shoot, people are moving gold around, and now within seven days of that happening, all of a sudden we get called to investigate Fort Knox. That's kind of telling, you know, because if we're looking at potential trade wars or issues with, you know, solvency and nations collapsing as a result of gold that doesn't exist that's supposed to where are we? I mean, it's basic accounting. Where are we at this point? Well because of all this buzz that I mean the gold futures in New York have risen 11% just this year

Wow, and that's closing Thursday at $2,935 per Troy ounce so something else interesting with the rest of the market too, because the majority of it hasn't looked very good over the last couple months. Right, and so, and the whole point behind that is, when they're saying this is how much gold we have, you know, they're saying that there's, hey,

there's 147.3 million ounces of gold in the United States, but then all of a sudden people start believing, hey, there's not really that much gold there. They start suspecting that the gold prices, the value of gold will up, because if there's less gold, let's say it becomes more rare than we thought it was, that would make its value much higher. Right?

That's how that system works. Yeah, and if there is less gold, what happened to it? Where are the reserves? Why haven't they been kept up, that kind of stuff. And I could totally see the smoke and mirrors from the last two presidencies. Well, I guess the last presidency,

and I have really, the one before too, even when Trump was president, because there was so much bad media and all the other stuff happening that even if something like this was happening right underneath Trump's nose, it wouldn't surprise me. He didn't know half the stuff that was going on

under his nose this last time because of all the holdovers that he had. He's coming in much stronger than he did last time. Yeah, and it's almost, it's been kind of interesting to watch because it's almost like a hunter who gets skunked the first time they go to a spot and then they realize, oh, there's a pattern here. And I think what's happening is that pattern

has been recognized and it is being used to his advantage. And really, and frankly, to the American people for their advantage as well. It might not feel right, you know? I think we definitely need to peel that band-aid off. And there's, I'm hearing, you know, I'm in a pretty liberal area myself. So I hear a lot of people there complaining about it

and all these things, you know, everybody's worried and concerned, but I'm just kind of sitting back like, yeah, let's do this. Keep going, keep going. And I'm kind of like silently encouraging this and thinking to myself, this is gonna be amazing. And it's just getting better. I got, and my conservative friends are split on this

because the people that I talk to, half of them are like, they don't wanna know. They don't want this all to happen. Okay, because one, they're afraid. Exactly, they're afraid that it's gonna cause this problem in the economy, it's gonna freaking make Trump look bad, it's gonna to cause us this problem in the economy. It's going to freaking make Trump look bad. It's going to make people hate Elon Musk. This isn't coming out of their mouth.

It's just, I'm abliming that. Yeah, in general. I'm generalizing it. And then on the other side of the coin, which is my position, and which I've asked them in return is, but do you really want to be lied to? Even if it makes you feel good, you won't do your government till keep lying to you, just make you feel good when they're,

when the right hand is doing this, but their left hand is doing this. I don't want that. I want the transparency and I don't wanna be lied to. Yeah, I think that's, it's kind of like getting out of a bad relationship or trying to determine whether you wanna keep that relationship alive.

Like you, at some point point if you've crossed that line or your partner has crossed that line, you have to be able to come, what is the term, come to grips or come to task, what do you call it? Come to terms with the reality of transparency and how important it is and whether or not you're going to be able to trust after some sort of infraction. Right, and the trust is gonna be hard to earn back, but once, you know, then it takes more time.

And it may never happen with, because he's only got, he's only just started Trumpets. Oh yeah, I mean we've got- He's got four years. 60 days in. Yeah, so he's got little less than four years in, and then he's got four years. 60 days in. Yeah. So he's got a little less than four years in, and then he's gonna be done. And then who's the next president gonna be?

But that pain, that mistrust that was laid out here, and in the previous presidency, he's gonna roll over. It doesn't matter who the president is. They're gonna be the face of the person that's not trusted because they're the face of the government at that point. Yeah. You know, so if you got a bad Congress that's not passing bills or can't come in agreement

on a bill to send to the president for him to sign off on, the president is held accountable for that. So when presidents run, they run on all these promises. Trump, for example, when he says before his last presidency that he's gonna build a wall, big, beautiful wall, it's gonna be huge, you know, that kind of thing, and he made this promise and it started and he got a lot done, but it got slowed and it was even late coming because he just can't

build a wall like that without passing congressional, he could write a bill to get it going, but the money has to come from congressional approvals. They have to move the money around, the budget has to be approved first and sent through and so if it slowed or stopped, and it's hindered in any way, that would stop his promises from working out. And it's like that with any president. So any president gets elected in there,

they're running all these promises, but they can't always keep their promises. And American people, I feel in large part, are not able to understand the differences in what he can and can't do, because they're ignorant of how the constitution works. Oh yeah, 100%. And like what someone is capable of,

and I think there's a lot of the folks that are, the folks who are really concerned about some of Trump's actions making him look bad or making them lose faith in him as a person because he did or didn't do something. I think that's kind of short-sighted because a lot of the things that are happening right now are going to have a long term impact that are going to undo the long

term damage that occurred the previous administration. And I mean, I remember looking as we were going week by week with the Biden presidency right off the bat. And I was like, God, it's going to take a year for every week. This guy has been in office to undo what has been done, the damage and, and you know, what we're dealing with. And I'm seeing that unraveling in lightning speed at this point. And that's the only way to do it. You have to, you really have to unravel all this stuff and that's the only way to do it. You have to, you really have to unravel all this stuff and do it rapidly and even go a little

bit farther just so people can realize that hey look at the core of this nation there is a set of rules and this is what we, this is what we stand on and I don't think people realize the importance of that and how, how much of a monster the government has become in that it's like grown into everything. The department of education. I mean, that move last week or week before it was significant, you know, where they're talking about removal of the department of education completely. And somebody in my circle was like, oh my God, can you believe Trump is just allowing

rich people to get richer now? And I was, and we're like, what are you talking about? Because he's offering $10,000 vouchers or credits, tax breaks or whatever for people who send their kids to private schools. Like homeschools and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, wait a second, because if they can afford to do that, then that means that they're spending

tens of thousands of dollars per student per year on public education. It's failing. Yeah, exactly, and it's coming from the same budget. So what they're accusing Trump of wasting this money on per child or per household is going there anyway. Like this is, X amount of dollars are allotted to the education system.

So if they can break it up and send this much money per child to get that child educated, it's not like he's taking money, extra money out to make this happen, to make this work. He's taking what's already been allotted there and splitting it up or dividing it up amongst the kids. Yeah, well when you think about it, I mean that is one example.

Your taxes in most places have if you look at your annual tax bill there are usually components on there that have to do with like a school bond or levy or something like that a couple hundred bucks a year or whatever it might be so if we start getting out of the public school system you will see not only benefits of your child's education getting better by your choice of going to a private school, but you will start to see taxes drop as a result of these institutions not being built anymore

because they essentially are gonna be outdated and there's gonna be different forms of education. So, I mean, there's a financial aspect to it and the people that are living in these regions understand that. But I think for the most part, it's just, oh God, there's, it's just one more way for the rich to get richer, you know?

Because that's all that people see this guy as, is some billionaire, they're same as Musk, you know? What's he doing? Some NPC and they're same as Musk, you know? What's he doing? Some NPC in there auditing our gold and our programs and oh, what'd you find? A bunch of dead people in social security that are getting paid, they're 300 years old? Yeah, because that's what we're dealing with.

I mean, the edge, it's like every time he turns over a rock there's a billion bugs that come out squealing and. That's a good way to look at it. Cockroaches. Yeah, cockroaches. We're like, okay, what's under this rock? And Elon is not getting a paycheck for this leader either. He's not getting paid to do, like Trump isn't.

Trump doesn't collect paychecks from doing his job as president. Elon isn't either. These guys are patriots and they're doing this for America. And Elon, I don't believe he was even born here. He's an American citizen, but he wasn't even born here. But he loves America, right? So him and Trump are doing this thing

where they're trying to be transparent. And part of it, I get why, the time to do this, rip the bandaid off kind of a thing, isn't really in your first term as president. It's your second term. That's the time you want to rip the bandaid off kind of a thing, isn't really in your first term as president. It's your second term. That's the time you wanna rip the bandaid off. The first term is a buildup pretty much. You wanna privately kinda be going through things

and find out what's going on, and then get a real good grip of what's happening in your country. That's what your departments are doing, what your cabinets are. You want to know all these things in the first four years of your president. And hopefully if you win re-election,

you rip the bandaid off, right? Because you're not gonna get re-elected. There's not a third term for United States president. Okay, so I think there might be some loopholes. I've been hearing people talk and chatter, but I'm not sure what those loopholes are to be for a third term. But for the most part,

most presidents only get two terms, right? So if Trump's gonna make people mad, and he's gonna try to save America, what he feels in his mindset or his route to saving America is to do that now because there won't be another term for him, like this is it. This is the end of the road. Well, it's interesting that you say that too

because I don't know if you saw the video that Elon Musk put out of Tulsi Gabbard. I'm guessing it was Tulsi Gabbard on her Twitter account or whatever, Instagram, but she's basically questioning like the left and their viewpoint of Ukraine and things like this in elections specifically. And she gives a real brief rundown of Zelensky and what he did, you know, how his elections

wound up getting botched and basically shut down as a result of martial law. So he was because they knew he was going to lose the election six months ago or eight months ago, something like that. So they basically said, no, we're in an active war. So we're just not going to have an election and we we're gonna allow this president to remain in power And I think that's kind of that that old thing is in your in your previous thing That's like if you just if you have them if it takes an emergency to give you emergency powers And you're always gonna have an emergency because people who have that power are not gonna let it go

people who have that power are not gonna let it go. So if there's a loophole, I can see that happening because it's like, wait a second, all we have to do is get into a war, but I don't see that happening. If anything, I see the opposite because I'm seeing a lot of like, hey, we need to resolve this peacefully, we need to get out of these situations,

same thing in the first term. So I have a feeling that that is something that we're going to probably be looking into or it could be a reality because if our nation is thinking that, hey look, it's okay to extend a presidency because of something like this from a different nation, why not suspend our constitution to do the same thing? Yeah, and I remember that was a big fear when Obama was president, you know Yeah on his way out this thing kind of thing was going to happen to prevent Trump from taking office and and you know Like we were all worried about it again when Biden was president

I know the left worries about it when Trump is president It's it's a legit American fear this you know this martial law thing where we're going to suspend the Constitution because there's special powers that the president gets and they're called the wartime powers. I've talked about this with Sarah F. Hathaway on her show, the Change Your Series. These are the kinds of things that can stop an election from happening.

If we're in a war, we don't have to hold an election because you can't swap presidents in the middle of a war and expect things to go smoothly for our people overseas. You got a commander in chief who's got his people commanding the front line. So when a president goes in, most presidents do this. They hire and they fire. Because you don't want your people that's working for you

to have opposing views, right? You want people who have the same mindset and the same views that you share. And so when you go into presidency, you take those top military people that you had. And so it's the same, when you go into presidency, you take those people, those top military people that you had from the previous administration, you want to replace them with people that you want to rule your military.

Cause you don't want somebody to say, I need you to do this, tell me can we make this happen? And then you got a hold over from the Biden administration that's running, let's say the army for example, and he's like, no, I don't think we're gonna do it that way. I command, he's the president's the commander in chief. And that's why you want to say the Army for example, and he's like, no I don't think we're gonna do it that way. I command, you know, he's, the President's the Commander in Chief, and that's why you want to get rid of the old people

and not let them try to side swipe you so to speak, or undermine you. This has to be a smooth transition, and when we got something on the line, like we're talking about American treasure, the blood of our soldiers overseas, and we got people that are running things that aren't in alignment with you,

that could be a serious problem, especially in the middle when there's suddenly, it's time to swap presidents now, commanders in chief, and then you got swapping. You saw how bad the Biden withdrawal was. From Afghanistan. From Afghanistan, it was complete botchery. And it would be like that on a wide scale

if all of a sudden we had a president swapped in the middle of a war because now we got cabinet, we got cabinet members, we got joint chiefs of staff who were appointed by the president that now are not in alignment with your views and they're not gonna be doing what you're doing and it's gonna be widespread debauchery.

But Volodymyr Zelensky, he's an absolute tyrant. Don't get me wrong, he's an absolute tyrant and I'm not in alignment with him. Everything that he does, it's all propaganda machine for him. Having the cameras. You remember whenever Russia first started to invade, I believe it was this last time,

and he was in the trenches and he was fighting, he was making these videos and these TikToks and these YouTubes and all that. I mean, he was a sensation before he ever became, what are these, president? President of Ukraine. He was, remember he used to dance in feminine clothing and he used to do all this,

I think he either dressed like gay or he is gay, but that's how he dressed these sparkly type things that he did. He was a sensationalized president, so he took this position as president. He ran with that YouTube or that social media sensation, and that's the kind of generation he's reaching out to. And now he's conscripting his people

because he's got manpower issues. Did you see that video, the interview with him and Trump? Oh, I mean, I saw enough of it to realize what was happening in that room. It was crazy. And there was other things that came out today. I think it was shared on our PBN group in the background and I saw some stuff on Twitter as well,

how there was a previous deal with Europe or the United Kingdom, where basically there's already some sort of something with Vladimir Putin's mineral reserves and they've been promised to the United Kingdom or something like that. I don't have all the details, but essentially he showed up knowing

that there was no way he was gonna make a deal like that and he was just doing it as a photo op to get more money out of us. And I mean, that went about as well as you could expect from a guy who's like, no, you know, get your own. We will help you, we can help you, but not like this. If you wanna, you know, we're not just gonna sit there and send money over, you can get it from the other nations

who haven't been chipping in, doing their part. And he comes over dressed, I know the left is going crazy about the way he came over, they're like, I guess Trump, and he was questioned by somebody in his cabinet, somebody from Trump's cabinet rather, questioned Zelensky, why don't you ever wear a suit? And he made this, well, I'm at war, well so what? Every president that's in a wartime, he still wears a suit, they don't change their clothes because they're at war, you know. Well, so what? Every president that's in a wartime, he still wears a suit.

They don't change their clothes because they're at war. Right, and he just, there's this element of I don't care. You know, it's like you were saying. He came to the table not even willing to compromise. Right, and just to show some disrespect, just get in front of the cameras, you know, but he got shut down by both Vance and Saturday Night Live likes to throw out their garbage too.

And their stupid little videos are already making fun of Vance. You know how they are to throw out their garbage too and their stupid little videos They're already making fun of Vance. You know how they are I don't know how these low slow and this is completely off topic and deep down the weeds But these these these left-wing pundits and these shows how they continue to they're not making it. They're struggling and I don't know They continue to do it but back on track. Let's do this I want to take a quick break here get back because this Actually get kind of deep and get kind of sinister Where this could go? I want to talk a little bit about that. want to take a quick break here and get back because this Actually get kind of deep and get kind of sinister Where this could go I won't talk a little bit about that. Let's take a quick break here

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Again that's the Preppers Medical Handbook by William W. Fordy. Welcome back to the Riding Republic. Okay so 1943 when Franklin D. Roosevelt was president, it was the last time there was a last full audit over at Fort Knox. And when I say full audit, I don't even know how full it was. I think he took a couple people in with him and they just did like, it was a partial and it wasn't even, I don't know, maybe it was full, but I don't know.

It's hard for us to know because the government is so secretive about it and they don't allow cameras to go in, they don't. And that's why Elon came up with this idea about doing a live walkthrough. I was like, eh, I love the transparency idea, but remember I've been in security for over 25 years.

I don't think I want the world to know the layout of Fort Knox, right? You know what I'm saying? So maybe when they get there, they can cut on the cameras and show the gold. That's the kind of thing I would prefer. I don't want a live walk through per se. I'm not down with that.

Yeah, I mean, there's certain things that you need to keep safe and secure. But in audit, I mean, 80 plus years since the last time. That's ridiculous. There was a partial audit also in 1974. Partial audit, that was whenever they, there's a couple delegates that was picked out, congressional delegates were picked out.

Basically what that means is they grabbed some people that they thought would keep quiet and they pick out their own people. So that's what delegates are. They delegate certain persons to do this and some journalists. So you also, you just don't get, it's not a raffle where journalists,

it's a selection process. So they pick out their people and they go in, they did this and I'm not saying, it doesn't count as an audit in my mind because it was a selection process. So they pick out their people and they go in, they did this, and I'm not saying, you know, it doesn't count as an audit in my mind because it was a partial audit. They literally walked in and said, here it is, you have Fort Knox and here's some gold. That's not good enough for me.

So there's been, and there's been, since then, there's been no, they had no visitor policy at Fort Knox since 1974. So that's quite a bit of darkness. So yes, but let's say it could darker than that Let's say they get in there. Okay, Ryan and we find out that they in fact don't have 147.3 million ounces of gold. There's 70 ounces of gold 70 ounces 70 million ounces of gold, right? Way way less than half what they're saying or in none, right?

Because let's face it. There's a lot of gold out there. You go into any jewelry store, go into any thrift store, go into any Walmart, there's gold everywhere, right? I mean, where's all this gold coming from? That kind of makes just, I don't know how much gold the United States has, but I do know that during the Great Depression, there was a lot of stuff collected. The government was taking a lot

and they weren't giving out a lot. But again, we became pretty, the United States war machine pretty much woke up and that war brought us out of the Great Depression because jobs are created in war times. It's just the way the capitalism functions. People begin to wake up and jobs are created and they begin to, the government will fund people

and businesses to create this, this, and this, and jobs are created and people get wealthy and the middle class continues, you know, will grow. But if the gold is not there, and there's way less than they told us, we could be looking at an economic collapse and there's already been talks of digital currency, God they would love for a digital currency

to take effect because in digital currency and you got the reserve system working up and can you imagine a reserve centralized digital currency system where the government essentially is controlling, that's why I think Biden, well, I don't think I know, Biden made some legislation and he put, who was the IRS, which, okay, they don't make legislation, but this is a great part.

I'm glad it was the IRS or Congress. But he had the IRS come up with some ways to put some focus groups on digital currency because in his mind, he's like this can't be controlled. Bitcoin for example, you know, it's not, it's monitored yes by the United States but it's not regulated in the United States.

Exactly. So what happens when people start investing their money in this stuff that's not regulated by the United States and it makes the gold, well yeah, essentially the gold becomes less because people are using less gold. And they're putting all their value in this digital, in digital trades. And then the United States says, hey, you know,

we're going now this way with the digital ID, which is coming by the way, it's in the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals. And we just need the right president to sign the United States onto it. And it's gonna happen, it's gonna go down. We're gonna have a digital ID where everybody gets one and you can't buy, sell or trade without one of these digital IDs.

And if you buy, say, everything goes digital, which we're pretty much, I deal so little with cash anymore. Yeah, me too. And it's, I mean, I'm running into more and more situations where, you know, even the kiosks at the store, I mean, last week I went grocery shopping and they were like, oh, you know, only one of the eight machines there

would accept cash as payment. And they're all designed to, they've all been built that way, but they only have one of them eight machines there would accept cash as payment and they're all designed to, they've all been built that way, but they only have one of them that actually accepts cash, the rest of it's all card. You know, I remember back in early 2020, I think, I remember there was a huge change shortage and people were like, there was like no nickels or whatever.

Yeah, there was a huge coin shortage or people were not accepting coins anymore or something like that, but it's, I mean, there's definitely a reduction for sure in not only our frequent use of cash, but even accepting cash to be able to do stuff with it. You know? Well, when you go to the grocery,

do you go to the grocery store or do you buy online? I always go to the grocery store. And okay, do you pull out cash? Say it. Do you pull out cash to pay? No, no. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, neither do I. That'd be less to track though.

But here's the thing, when you pull out paper, a dollar bill, we'll call that cash, okay? That paper, it's just paper. What that's saying is this is a trade note equivalent to what the government says is worth, it's worth at Fort Knox, right? So all the, and our government has been printing trillions of dollars in cash paper

and that's supposed to be backed by gold. My personal opinion, we've never had the amount of gold in My personal opinion, we've never had the amount of gold in Fort Knox that, so basically the notes that we have is not backed. That's my personal opinion, and I don't think it ever has been. And what we have, the nickels are supposed to be worth

five cents of, you know, because it's supposed to be backed by precious metal, that's constitutional, precious metals. So a nickel is supposed to be worth five cents worth of precious metal. A dime is supposed to be worth 10 cents backed by precious metal. That's constitutional, precious metals. So a nickel is supposed to be worth five cents worth of precious metal. A dime is supposed to be worth 10 cents worth of precious metal. A quarter, same thing, 25 cents. A dollar, it's a note.

Now we start getting crazy because we're not dealing anymore in precious metals. We're dealing with something that's basically a promise by the US government saying, we have this, this is backed, right? But let's say I don't take any cash at all. Let's say I don't pull out any paper currency. Let's say I don't pull out any nickels, quarters,

diamonds, pennies, okay. I'm just pulling out my debit card. We've been dealing in digital currency for so long that we don't even realize that it's happening. I can't tell you how often I buy from Amazon. It's a digital transaction and we've been doing it forever. Yeah, and I mean that digital transaction is going from your pocket to probably

some manufacturer in China. I mean, to be honest, I mean that digital transaction is going from your pocket to probably some manufacturer in China. I mean to be honest I mean that's where the majority of the Amazon products come from. So it's it's and all we're doing is trading digital currency we're not actually trading gold so I mean and if that promise drops if if because if it's not backed on gold then it's a promise and that's it. So if we don't have the gold, then we're breaking promises left and right. And people don't realize that.

I mean, I can see where there'd be a worldwide issue if the US dollar is no longer seen as the standard, because that's kind of, that's how it's measured as of now. I think that was something that happened, oh, how long ago was that? Since the 70s or? And even recently Russia and China was working on what was that piece that they came up with

because they were trying to, and that was a big old threat. Well, this is gonna undermine the stability of the currency system because the United States is the standard. Whatever, we're supposed to have the most gold per se, right, so whatever they say that we have, like the United States is the standard for,

if the United States economic system collapses, it's gonna be a global catastrophe. What happens in this country? How bad can it be? You're more sure of a survivalist than I am. What happens when the banks collapse and they shut down because, let's face it, if we find out there's not as much gold as they're saying

and then this truth gets, they rip the bandaid off, so to speak, as you always eloquently say it, and we find out that we've been lied to all this time and it's not gonna take long for the economic system to collapse, the economic system to collapse. The economic system collapses. It's gonna get bad at that point because we don't have a system in place when it collapses.

It's going to be awful, dark days. Definitely. And I mean, at that point you're looking at, I mean, to me, the way I see it is kind of like what we walked out of during the hurricane in Prepper Camp where within a hundred mile radius you pretty much had no access to food, technology, power, fuel like that. And it'll, but it's going to last more than just a couple of days, you know, before they

can get power up or a couple of weeks, couple of months, whatever it might be. I mean, this, this is, you're talking long term at that point and from a survival standpoint I mean this is where you're having skills and materials some sort of something that you can barter with I mean I people people think that I'm a little bit weird maybe for stocking up on firewood this last summer I put 20 cords up and I go through about four cords a year so for me and I've never done this before, but even the farmers who plow the fields around me come up to me and they're like,

hey, what's going on with your wood? Can I buy some from here or where'd you get it from? And for me, it's a little bit of a hazard because it's a visual presence. I mean, you can tell when you got 20 cords on the ground, that's a lot of space that's being used up. But it's also something that I see as something I mean you can tell when you got 20 cords on the ground. It's that's a lot of space that's being used up, but it's also something that I see as

something that I can use to get things from people and your ability to do that because if other people burn wood and I got a cord that I can spare to get you through winter because guess what? Nobody's accepting this form of currency or you know you can't get fuel for your chainsaws or you know you can't even get up logging roads because the government shut everything down for access or on private land or you know federal lands or whatever it might be. It can get real hairy real quick and something as simple as just having staples on hand makes a huge difference. So I mean I can't emphasize enough

to make sure you keep your pantries topped off, your freezers topped off, your resources for heat and water topped off and ready. I mean, it's the same survival prepping type stuff that we do with all the time on all the other shows on PBN. But when you're talking long-term, at that point, you're making promises on paper that are backed by your own blood and I remember back in the day my dad was like he he told

me one time to my face he's like you know what you don't ever write a check that your body can't cash and I always took that to heart because that means that if I can't answer to this promise that I'm given to someone else that is coming out of my skin, whether it's through hard work or physically because I'm basically going to get chased and beat down or lose a limb or get a broken knee or whatever as a result of it. So there are some, there's a lot of possibility of darkness in that regard. That said, we learned a lot during the depression that we have lost, but there was a way for people to survive and through promise. And I've seen some of the

bookkeepers books from old general stores and stuff like that where people were paying for food or just general store type items with livestock. I've seen receipts for rings or jewelry for people who wanted to buy a wedding ring and the promise that they made because they didn't have cash was a cow and the baby calf next spring to the bank. So it's not so dark that we can't find an alternative, but the thing is, is there's gonna have to be an agreeable alternative to cash.

And it's gonna have to happen quickly. And people are gonna have to realize that there is intrinsic value in cores of firewood that's stacked up, or fuel that you might have set aside, or livestock that you might be raising, that kind of stuff. Because those things do hold value. Chickens right now are gonna be phenomenal. So it raising, that kind of stuff, because those things do hold value. Chickens right now are gonna be phenomenal.

So it's just that kind of stuff, that mentality, what happens when everything collapses in the long term? You have to be able to sustain long term, and you have to have something that continually can provide in some sort of a barter fashion, not just what you can throw in your closet or under your bed. Which is, and it's a repeated topic that we hear all the time like when we go to prepper camp

in saluted North Carolina, right? Every year in September we go there and we hear somebody talk about prepping. And one of the things that comes up about prepping is these trading and bartering things. Like you want things that are practical and multipurpose. Chickens, like we talked about the last time, the last episode, chickens are great

because you can eat the meat, the leg, the eggs, there's so many purposes, so many things you can do with just the eggs alone. And they reproduce and they create more food and more food. Same thing with goats and cattle. The hides are useful, they're good for meat, they produce milk and you can do all kinds of things with the milk, right?

Multipurpose items, bullets, same thing. You can shoot a bullet, right? You can take the bullet apart, you can use the contents of the bullet, the gunpowder part, portion of it, to make other flammable things to make, to start fires. These are things, alcohol, you can drink alcohol, you know, you can you can sterilize wounds with alcohol, you can start fires with alcohol. Multi-purpose things that are very useful in times of Great Depression, in times of survival. Because we're talking about, we're not talking about,

what we're talking about if there's a true economic collapse, it's gonna be much worse than what happened during the Great Depression. And people need to understand that we cannot rely on the government that's been lying to us to come through for us and to sustain us. If there's no system in place, which there will be, I've read the back of the book, because you know I'm a very religious person, I've read the back of the book

and I know it's going to come through, it's going to happen. The digital currency system is going to happen. And there's 4,400 words in the United States Constitution. And what do we know about martial law? All we know about martial law is that it says, the Congress shall have the power to provide for the calling forth of militia, to execute the laws of the Union, suppress instruction, and to repel invasion. That's the whole context. That's everything we know about the, about the, about, about, about martial law, right? So when this comes to us, there, because there's so little definition and so little historical record on martial law,

that gives the government a huge swath of a huge brush, you know, a blanket if you will, to do and interpret the Constitution to mean whatever it means. And here's something else more frightening, right? And you said, I think you did, you said in one of my martial law classes before, whenever martial law happens, you can't expect the courts to come in and help you, because once martial law goes out there, we're talking about military tribunals. So once military tribunals are in effect, the constitutional system that we know as courts will not be in effect, because when that happens, during true martial law, there is no court system set up in effect because the tribunal system, the military system is in effect.

So there's not going to be a Supreme Court there to back you up. There's not going to be, well, I'm going to have to plead Duncan versus whatever in this case. It's not going to happen that way. So basically whoever's there on the scene will be the judge, jury, and executioner for the military tribunal. And anybody that's ever, if you've never been in the military before

and you don't understand how difficult it is in military life, you will find out because the punishment is very, very steep whenever you do something wrong. And God forbid you're accused of being a rebel or an insurrectionist in such times. Yep, absolutely. You know, that's just it. I mean, we're getting to that point where it's like, people need to start considering what happens after the bomb drops, you know. Not the physical

bomb, but whatever the impact might be. You know, what's the next stage and where, how do you get out in front of it? Yeah, I just, it can be dark and dismal, but there also is, there's always light at the end because, and you know, from the biblical standpoint, if you want to quote passages within the Bible, there's all sorts of examples on the importance of putting up for the future, for the unknown, for the hazards, watching out for things, looking at signs, paying attention, and we can all do that. Yeah, the Bible says consider the ant.

So you're like, what's that, what's that even mean? Well, just all you gotta do is consider the ant. Look at the ants and how they, you know, they take care, they work. They're always working. They're always putting up for themselves. And so you see the big old lines of ants. What are they doing?

Well, they're going out, they're collecting, and they're going back to their storing. And they eat, and big old lines of ants, what are they doing? Where they're going out, they're collecting, and they're going back to their storing. And they eat, and they survive. And it's not like one winter kills them off, guess what? They're going to be back next year because they worked all summer long, they worked hard, they put it back, they saved up, and then they're good.

And that's where we need to be, not only as an individual, but as a nation as a whole. And if we've been sitting there relying on winter stores of gold for the last 80 years that nobody actually can confirm, we're gonna be going hungry financially in a hurry. Well, there's the big executive order that Biden,

or not Biden, Obama wrote back in 2012. This is executive order 13603 was written to maintain a technological superiority in its national defense equipment during, the scary part is in the verbiage of the Executive Order it says in peacetime and in times of national emergency. And so the word national emergency is written four times in that 10 page Executive Order

and it never wants to find actually what a national emergency is. That basically means similar to what martial law is, there's just a few words on it and there's no definition of what martial law is. Just call forth the militia to suppress, insurrection to repel invasions. So what is an emergency? Well an emergency could be anything that the United States government deems it to be and that's why this is so important this discussion about an economic collapse so important, because once you've gone a few days,

and that's all it's gonna take is a few days, where your money isn't worth anything to you, we take a quarter or a dollar or a hundred dollar, whatever to the store, if the store's even open, which you've seen what's what happened in Ferguson, you've seen what's what's happened in all these big cities during the riots. Yep. That small fry compared to what would happen,

the cities will burn first after just a couple days if their dollar's not amounting to a kilo of beans. People will kill. Good people will do very bad things for money. Inside of 24 hours you're gonna see people getting killed. For their family, for food, yes. Because after a day or two, as Americans, people, three days without food,

I mean without water is all a person can do. I don't know how many, I know human body could probably, it'll be very difficult to stay in 30, 40 days without food. You're dead after that. And so people, even good people will do very awful things to protect themselves, protect their family. And so, that's in those kinds of times. You can't rely on the government.

You can't rely on your neighbor. You can't rely on anybody. In fact, I would say don't trust anybody in those kinds of situations. You're gonna see some, first the cities are gonna burn, you know, it'll be the first thing that's gonna happen. I talk about this in Surviving Martial Law, my book too in the Patriot series. The cities are going to be the first things to go down because

they'd never prepare. They're usually you know socialistic in nature and they rely on their government to take care of them and once that system is gone and the conservative system of self-reliance is what matters, they're going to start burning and killing and doing whatever they have to do to survive and then they're going to start and killing and doing whatever they have to do to survive. And then they're gonna start, once they ran out of resources in the cities, they're gonna start spreading out to the rural areas, to those people like us

who know how to self sustain. And they're gonna be coming for your chickens, they're gonna be coming for the cattle. I've already heard from my wife's friends, oh I know what's gonna happen if things go south, we're coming to your house and I'm just shaking my head the whole time. Exactly, you can't take care of them. if things go south, we're coming to your house and I'm just shaking my head the whole time. No you're not.

Exactly, you can't take care of them. No, they are not part of my survival plan, unfortunately, which is, it's sad and I'm gonna have to turn people away and I'm probably gonna upset my wife about that, but the reality is they're not part of the equation. So they're on their own. They've known me long enough to be able to pick up what I've been throwing down

and they still haven't done it. There's nothing I can do about. I mean, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink, right? They're not going to be drinking from this pond. Tell you that. So, and I hate to do that, but I, there's going to be a point like, not only are people going to change, but they're gonna change in ways that you don't realize within your own circle sometimes. And if you think that you're gonna be, you know, your buddy buddy with some prepper, you're gonna go help, you know, harvest

at the end of harvest season and just get a free ride, that ain't happening. I mean, you might get a little bit, but it ain't you know It's just not going to happen. So if that is your plan good luck. That's why I'm so thankful You know, my wife is oh, she's she's big in horticulture, you know, she can she can grow she got green thumb She can grow anything even a live off of vegetable exactly. There's proteins and certain vegetables, you know I mean you can live pretty good and you know bringing in a squirrel or deer as a man here and there, you know To supplement your your vegetarian diet with some proteins, let's do it. I need to get into chickens,

I've been talking about chickens for some time, family bother me about chickens, we'll get chickens. It's just, I haven't been able to sort those details out yet and have the time to deal with it, but it's something on my list of to-dos. But something I wanna talk about real quick is some precursors that might come to something like a martial law. Sometimes the government, well all the time to deal with it, but it's something on my list of to-dos. But something I wanna talk about real quick is some precursors that might come to something like a martial law.

Sometimes the government, well all the time, the government will know what's coming down the pike way before we are, we will. We can see it coming, but we see things like almost, we can foreshadow things. Because we understand how just kind of looking at, with our sensors, we can call it the sixth sense, our spider sense, whatever you wanna call it.

I've been really good at determining and I wrote the tyrant series based off of things I saw was happening with our government and a lot of those things came to pass with the whole COVID-19 thing when in the manipulation of viruses and the killing off with the depopulation all that is it's all set it's all it's going to happen the population is going to happen because we can't sustain the way we are right now. But the government knows before we do. A matter of fact, when these things,

when you start seeing precursors, they know this is gonna happen. And so they start setting things like curfews, travel restrictions, they start rationing food, they start setting up checkpoints, they start censoring more, you start seeing excessive military presence, you start seeing rapid inflation because they're trying to pull money back and try to put for themselves or to enter

rationale later. So you see rapid inflation, unusual government purchases like what we saw a few years ago with the Obama administration, we had buying up all the ammunition, I think that was under Obama, increased regulation, those kinds of things. When you see those things happening in bulk like that, just know that something sinister is about to go down, it's about to happen. And the only way to survive things like that is to first of all be aware that it's coming

and to know how to survive when it does happen. Yeah, it's just like seeing a storm in the distance. Oh yeah, exactly, here it comes. Buckle up the hatches. Yep, exactly. And the thing is, you get through that enough yeah, exactly, here it comes. Buckle up the hatches. Yep, exactly. And the thing is, you get through that enough times, you get complacent sometimes. And you think, oh, I'm okay, it'll be all right.

I forgot to close the door this one time, or didn't close the chicken coop, or didn't do this one thing that I do to maintain and keeps the place secure and safe. And I think, as a nation, we have to be very careful that we don't get complacent. Right, and people do get complacent. You know, and they really don't know

what the left hand is doing. They're just kind of watching the right hand because it's full of pleasantries. Well, we're being taken care of, you know, but behind the curtain, or behind the back, so to speak, the left hand is doing something quite different. But they're unaware of it because they can't see it out of sight, out of mind, right?

It's like all of these executive orders that happen. I'm gonna go through some executive orders that, and you heard these in my Surviving Martial Law class, but there's a few executive orders that were written in the past, most of them by John F. Kennedy when he was president. And then Clinton wrote a big one, and then Obama, the one with the, I just shared with you with Obama,

Executive Order 13603 came out, which kind of took all these, all these executive orders I'm about to read to you are swallowed up whole by this one executive order that Obama wrote. And so for the listeners, Executive Order, this was written by John F. Kennedy in 1962, Executive Order 10997, that in times of emergency again

The emergency is never clarified in any executive order That the government could take power seize control of electric electric all electric power petroleum gas solid fuels and minerals executive order 10998 the government could take control of food resources farms fertilizers and facilities executive order 10995 the government take control of food resources, farms, fertilizers, and facilities. Executive order 10995, the government could take control of telecommunications management. Executive order 10999, the government takes control of transportation, the production

and distribution of materials. Executive order 11000, manpower management. You, anybody that don't know what manpower management is, it's basically workforces that the government can create workforces So use your imagination to decide what a workforce is because the executive order doesn't clarify that exactly Executive order 1 1 0 0 3 the government takes control of all air travel airports operating facilities executive order 11,004 housing and communication or or I'm sorry community facilities. Now Richard Nixon wrote one in 1969, federal departments and

agencies control all US citizens churches and businesses. That's a big one. Like these to my knowledge these executive orders haven't been overwritten. The great thing about executive orders is a president, any president can come in and undo an executive order because executive orders are not legislation. Right. They're not designed to be, they're unconstitutional really. Executive orders are basically for the president to say,

here's how my cabinet's gonna operate. So FEMA, the IRS, the Justice Department, these are not branch of the United States government, these are departments, these are agencies. And they answer to the president of the United States. So he writes an executive order and tells these departments, these are not branches of the United States government, these are departments, these are agencies, and they answer to the President of the United States. So he writes an executive order and tells these departments, these agencies,

this is how my administration's gonna run, and they fulfill it. But when Obama wrote this executive order 13603, called the National Defense Resources Act, basically it seizes all water, all human and animal food, all transportation, all energy, all construction materials animal food, all transportation, all energy, all construction materials, all health resources, all farming equipment, all fertilizers, all fuels, on and on and on.

Everything I just read to you is encapsulated within this one executive order, but no president since, not Biden, not Trump to my knowledge, has undone this. So if any president can, with an executive order, override another executive order, it's not as complicated as congressional legislation where you have to get everybody to agree, the House has to write a bill, approve it in the House, and then it goes to Senate for approval. They all have to agree and approve it, then it goes up to the executive office

and he signs off on it and makes it a bill. That's how legislation truly works with executive order. It doesn't work that way. He says, this is how I'm gonna do things. And he has all these departments and agencies that answer to him and only to the president, regulate the people this way. And it's a way to bypass legislation.

And when you think about what could happen during true martial law, because there's no legislation being created or executive orders written to override this, you have a very scary situation where one person can become not only the commander in chief but judge, jury, and executioner. Yeah.

And I mean, I will give Trump praise for having done as much as he has done even in his previous term and the first two months here, but you also there's a part of me that is also kind of like dude if this becomes too much of a drug where he can't handle it and other stuff starts happening we could very well see the Vladimir Putin, not Vladimir Putin, the Vladimir Zelensky, whatever his name is, activities happening, and all of a sudden, you know,

we're dealing with a monster that we cannot, like we can't escape from, because, and I think really what it's gonna boil down to is if we ever hear those key words what is it national a national what is it in the in that executive order? Emergency? National emergency yeah so if you ever hear their keywords you know or somebody to somebody from the presidential press office or Trump doing going on TV to say we're currently

in a national emergency or we have declared a state of national emergency I think that's basically the red flag warning to all of us just be ready because it's coming and people who don't know what that means they're gonna wake up to it far too late. You know, when someone shows up to their doorstep and takes their, you know, able-bodied sons and daughters to go work or physically removes them from the home because they're property of the government now and they have no say in it. I think that's gonna be a wake up call to a lot of people

when farmers are no longer able to use their own equipment because of whatever reason, you know, or, you know, it gets confiscated and sold off for the price of the metal. Yes, I don't want people thinking that it can't happen. So many people have these blinders on thinking that's just right wing conspiracy theory. Folks this has been happening on a smaller scale in Illinois and California and Washington state. The government there controls so much of your life.

I mean, it's regulated down to what you can and can't drink. You know, we see crazy, was it New, I wanna say Newsome a few years ago that wrote some crazy bill that you can only, he got rid of the certain size of sodas or something like that because I guess the calorie, maybe he should relay some of that information to Governor Pritzker over in Illinois

because he's so large that he, I don't want some guy that weighs 400 pounds telling me what my lifestyle should be like. You don't even exercise, you clearly don't care about your diet and you're gonna tell me what's good for my body, go away. Yeah, yeah and you know that whole concept of who's the governor, who's in charge of this town

or this state or this county or whatever. I mean it goes all the way up to the top and I think when people realize that it can turn on a dime because of a declaration of an emergency or a state of things. I think crisis would be the buzzword. Yeah. So it's, I think I would like to think

that people woke up enough from COVID to where they won't let this happen again, but I have a feeling it's going to happen again and people are gonna buy into it just like before, but it's gonna be under the guise of something else, something either patriotic or I don't know what, but it seems like we're heading down that path and it's not a good one.

Yeah, and one side will be jubilant. I don't wanna get one fuzzies about it. Yeah, one side will be jubilant and the other side will be highly upset. I mean, it's gonna happen that way. But we are at an hour, Ryan, and it flew by fast, such a great conversation. Absolutely, it's always a good conversation.

Thanks everybody for tuning in to the show, glad to have you. Feel free to send us emails, conversations. You can always reach out to me on Twitter if you want. What's your Twitter handle, Ryan? What is it? It's at dadprepper. You can email us both, or email either one of us,

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