The Prepper Broadcasting Network - The Rising Republic: Point of No Return
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All right, welcome everybody to the Rise of Republic.
It's L. Douglas Hogan and Ryan Buford.
How's it going, everybody?
Glad to have you on the show today.
Heck yeah.
What's been going on in your neck of the woods?
I'm hunkering down getting ready for winter.
I've been out the last couple of weekends trying to get chimney swept
and leaves blown up and yard cleaned up and get all the potatoes up out of the ground,
all that kind of stuff so that we can get ready for the coming snow and freezing
temperatures that we're expecting here in the next two weeks.
Yeah, I've been getting some wood in the house.
But, uh, because it's been, we've been, we're in this weird phase right now in southern
Illinois where it's like cold.
I mean, Illinois is like this anyway.
It's like, where there's a phrase here.
If you don't like the weather, just hang out three hours.
Yeah.
It's, uh, it's like that here.
So, um, yeah, I brought some wood in because we had some freezing temperatures like below 32
degrees and, and then, you know, two days later, it's 70 degrees again.
And I don't know, I've always been told that it's kind of, I mean, what the old wives' tales are that, you know, be careful going on when it goes up and down like that.
Or you going outside with your hair wet or something like that, that it's going to make you, you catch a chill or it'll make you sick.
I think it's an old wife's tail.
I don't think cold makes you sick.
I just think that the viruses seem to thrive a little bit better in the cooler temperatures.
But that's what it's been here.
You know, I brought some wood in and we burned through it.
And just in time for the, like the sun came back around again.
It's like seven degrees.
And it's like, yeah, I was like, okay.
So now, now I'm kind of prepping, I guess maybe tomorrow because we're supposed to get rains.
What days the rains coming in?
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, either Wednesday, Thursday, Friday or Tuesday, Wednesday,
we're getting three days of it for sure, like a 25% chance of it on the last day.
Yeah, and where I've been, I've been piling up leaves and getting grass clippings set of
so that I can kind of spend time this winter going through
and adding that to my chicken manure
and getting some serious compost barrels going.
So kind of getting that kind of stuff dialed in.
I remember our composting conversation we had on this show a few episodes back.
That's kind of neat that you're able to do that.
What kind of tools for our listeners?
Do you, I mean, do you have something that just shreds everything and mix it together?
How do you do this?
I do have a mixer.
It's a powered mixer that's like a cement mixer.
And you can use a cement mixer, but the one that I have is a little bit different.
I got it at a like a surplus type sale.
And it's a machine that's specifically used to make pelletized food for animals.
So kind of serves a dual purpose because if I ever need it for that purpose and I can
throw
you know
veggie scraps and meat
and you know
ground meat and you know
grains or whatever
rice that kind of stuff
and kind of make my own dog food pellets
if I decided to go that route
but it also works really well for compost
so I can kind of turn it in about 15 minutes
I have really
uniformly mixed compost
and then like once I
have the ratios that I need
and it's set in there mixing
I can dump it out into another pile
and then I just let it set
Now do you have the ratios like locked up in your head
or do you have a like a cue card
pin to your refrigerator somewhere
that you go off of?
Well actually I have a buddy at work
who is extremely well versed in compost
so I kind of piggyback off of him
and kind of pick his brain a little
bit on the ratios. But our soils got a lot of clay in it. So we have to constantly work with
other things like sand and in addition to the dirt that we're adding to the compost to try and make
it to where it's not just solid clay. Like right now it's raining four hours ago. I was in when I was
doing potatoes. You know, I was able to get there in the dirt. If I went out there right now, it would
just be a sloppy mess.
So it kind of, it's a bit challenging when it comes to working in the soil.
So with your compost, if you can add a little bit of sand or amend it with something else,
then it breaks up that clay.
And the clay itself is useful because it does retain moisture.
Well, that's interesting.
Let me tell you something that it's going on, kind of like a dynamic with, I had,
I think we've talked about this before in the past on a previous episode.
I just had a swimming pool put in.
They dug out lots of earth.
it's all like clay stuff.
Once that stuff gets wet,
I mean,
it's just,
it's not very graceful.
It's slippery.
It's slimy.
You know,
I mean,
it sticks.
And it's hard to grow.
They're very,
it's very selective about what kind of grass it will allow to,
to grow in it,
usually just weeds.
Yeah.
But if I wanted to break that down,
because right now,
the amount of stuff that they did,
they had to move earth around.
And in the process, they moved a lot of this earth around to a spot where I do a lot of walking.
And so I haven't put anything on it yet.
I haven't, you know, the grass seed for this.
It's a big area.
It's going to be a hefty price tag when I get all the straw together and the seed all purchased and get it all laid out.
But if I could get around that and just make it more earthy instead of more, get rid of the clay, what would you recommend?
Because I heard you just said adding sand.
Do you think, because I do have a little bit of sand laying around on my property,
if I sprinkle that out over the area, do you think that would help break it down a little bit?
Yeah, and yes, it would.
And you want to mix the sand in, like with some sort of a mixer, like a cement mixer or something like that,
and do it dry, obviously.
Can't really do it when you got three days of rain coming.
But if you have, once it's dried, you can take ratios however you want,
like a one, five-gallon bucket of clay soil.
and you know another half gallon or two gallons or whatever your ratio is that works best for
you then throw it together and stick it in your cement mixer or whatever you use and then just
once it's once it's kind of stirred up and mixed then you dump it out wherever you want it
but if you're going to overwinter it where it sets what you can do to to help to help
add biomass to that what you can do is um right now
a good time to get clover on the ground, especially with rain coming. So if you can get
clover seed, even an annual, like a one-year clover, then you can spread it on that pile that you
have, and the clover will fix nitrogen into that clay. And then when you actually go to
break it down, all the roots and the clover leaves and all that kind of stuff will help
as far as, like, improving the soil quality.
So if you overwinter it with clover, like a cover crop, essentially,
then that top six, eight, 12 inches will be nitrogen rich and ready to go for planting next year.
And, you know, you can next year, once you start digging into your soil,
or if you want to wait that long, you can add sand to that and then stick it right in your
planter boxes or wherever you want to stick it on your garden or even just spread it right over your grass.
I have a walkway right now from my deck to the chicken coop that's just,
it's just clay ground, right?
So if I was to spread salt over that.
Salt.
Not salt, not salt, I'm sorry.
You said sand.
Yeah, salt would do what?
It'll kill your path.
You won't have to worry about any weeds or anything.
Yeah.
No, but I want to make it more earthy instead of, you know,
get rid of the sludgy kind of a walkway that I have right now between those,
that area, those two areas.
I could just toss some sand out there and some clover seed, you said.
Oh, yeah, clover, because you walk out on top of the clover and it'll attract bees and stuff,
but the sand itself will help to allow water to drain away from it.
So it won't sit there and just turn into a mush puddle when you walk through it.
We have so much clover in our area, too, like so much clover.
I can literally walk out.
I got an eye for finding like four leaf.
I don't know how I do it
I just trained my brain to look for
patterns of three
and where there's a break in the pattern
of three, it's usually either
two, three leaf clovers that have kind
of twisted together and made it look like
a four or five or even a six leaf, you know?
But for the most part
it generally works out. I spot a four
leaf clover because the pattern is broken.
Nice. Yeah, it's something
everybody's like, how do you do that. I really don't know
how I do it, but as close as I can explain.
Yeah, I'm lucky. That's how I can do it.
The best way I can think, because it's a little bit of what I do.
I just walk out there, I look at the ground, and I'm looking at all these three-leaf clover
and I'm looking at that particular pattern.
I'm not looking for four-leafs.
I'm looking for patterns of three.
And where it breaks is where I might have a four-leaf clover.
Yeah, cool.
Yeah, that's awesome.
I mean, if you got a lot of clover, that's good.
I mean, anywhere you have clover is a good spot to plant stuff.
I mean, it'll choke out weeds and it'll fix nitrogen in the soil,
which is good for your vegetables and stuff like that.
you're planting in the ground.
It's also attracting a whole bunch of deer.
We've had, I'd be coming home to just seeing the floating eyeballs out in the,
out on the field just staring at me.
Yeah.
They'll be laying down.
It's edible to you.
I mean,
you can go out there and pick some of it, rinse it off, throw it on the salad or burritos or
whatever.
I mean, it's,
there's different species of clover, too, Inther.
Yeah, usually red and purple are pretty common.
Sometimes there's yellow or then there's annual or perennial.
so depending on what you're doing if you don't want to deal with the clover in the future then you can use a you do a cover crop with annual clover and then if you if you want it to permanently be there like a consistent ground cover then you run with the perennial do you have the i believe it's a clover um it's like a dark green and it looks like like it's real vainy it's got these like these kind of light green to neo green looking veins in the middle of the leaf is that clover as well
usually yeah i mean it's there are different varieties of of that but and i don't know what specific
kind that one is that you're talking about um does it kick out a purple or white flower not generally
generally they're just single stem um uh leaves of three you know they just come out of the ground
it's just a single stem and but they're they're in patches like lots of patches um so i i will
just like start walking towards a patch because i like to i love doing
a lot of the spring walking around the property.
Yeah.
And I like,
I always head towards the clover patches because it,
first of all,
there's,
I love to see the bees at work.
Yep.
The white,
what are the little white buds that come or not buds,
but little white flowers that come up in the,
in the patches.
Yes.
They come up in the thickets of the clover and the bees are attracted to those.
That's what we have predominantly in Southern Illinois.
Yeah.
And that clover,
Honey is good. If you've got your own bees or if you know how to attract bees, you can start
your own hive and have your own clover, honey, right on the, right on your back porch.
Yes, it's something we're lucky to. We want to definitely get into it. But we've learned through,
you know, going to Preper Camp that there's, you know, there's a lot, a lot to it. But it's also,
once you understand what you're doing, it's also a very simple thing to do. It's just getting,
getting the gear. And, but you need to have a mentor. I've learned. You just don't,
buy the stuff and then start you it's more than just reading books everybody that I've talked to
recommends having a mentor somebody that you can go and see and visit and somebody that come out
and look at you and kind of oversee what's going on to make sure that you at least until you
get your your legs your sea legs so to speak you're able to walk on your own yeah there's a lot
of beekeeper groups and county extension offices that will help you connect with those
mentors to
you know
it's a hell of a resource to
have and bee people are
they're kind of their own breed
so it kind of depends on how
involved you want to get but
it's
it's a lot of fun I think
that's my next year's project
is to get set up with a nice little beehive
and maybe attract
some in the early spring see what I can do
because they
come here naturally and fertilize all my
all my plants my raspberries
and all my fruit trees and everything like that.
So it would be nice to be able to also harvest honey
because I know that they're surviving here
and taking it somewhere else.
So.
As long as you can avoid the,
what are the,
I forget what they're called,
the killer hornets or whatever they are.
I've seen killer hornets go and attack a beehive.
Usually it's just one,
when one does it by itself,
it might kill a bee or two,
but the bees catch on eventually
and they attack it and smother it and kill it.
that way. Yeah. And those are, I mean, a lot of the times how you have your beehive and your
boxes set up, you know, and even yellow jackets are a pretty big threat. Yellow jackets and
lights are the worst. But, you know, there's, there's a lot that you can do to try and prevent
them. I mean, nature will find a way. But it's nice if you can kind of give those bees a little
bit of a leg up and try and keep them somewhat safe and secure in your bee boxes and stuff.
I was watching where a beehive kind of flew into the area of another beehive. Both
hives had its own queen. And that's not, it's like a gang, like a turf war when something like
that happens. So what, what happened, it was interesting was the bees from from one hive
flew to the other and found the queen in the other hive.
and killed that queen so that the other hive would join with them.
And, you know, it's just kind of a, it's astonishing to me.
It's very scientific and it's amazing how they work.
And I don't, I have that exact.
I mean, it's like a hive of bees is like it's like its own biological organic anomaly to me.
It's like a living, breathing thing of itself.
Yeah.
Like a hive body.
almost like it has a hive mine
it's like everybody has a role
and as long as everybody sticks to this role
this is how it's going to work
and there's such synchronicity to it
it just works
beautifully really
it's the way that it works in nature
but the week
the weak queen will go
and then you'll just create this super hive
with just one queen
yeah it's a trip
bees are a whole
I mean it's kind of interesting
the way that they work and don't work sometimes because they can be very weak at the same time.
I mean, as a hive, they're very strong and capable, and they can get a lot of work done.
But, you know, it doesn't take much to knock out an entire, you know, an entire culture, essentially,
whether it's a predator or, you know, whether they didn't, maybe someone took too much hunting
or they didn't put enough up, you know, it's kind of a, but they, I mean,
As small of the creatures as they are, they sure are important for everything that we have, like, at our disposal.
I mean, everything.
Our entire food chain would be catastrophically impacted without the involvement of bees.
Can you imagine what would happen with the beehive if the worker bees just said, you know what?
I'm done with this.
I'm good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, what would become of a hive?
Even one bee.
I mean, you got, I can't remember all the different bee types there are, but there's the queen, of course, and there's the worker bees, and is there like warrior bees or something like that?
Yep, you got your soldiers and your drones.
That's it.
Yep, drones, yep.
So each one has its own job, right?
They're all reliant upon the other one to do its, to perform its specific duty.
And if one fails to do its task, you know, just let's say one B fails to do its task, they'll kill it.
it's like because it's not it's not performing its design purpose it's just a parasite at that point
it's just a consumer and it's not performing its role so they'll see that and they'll they'll
execute it if you will exclude it from society um but all the way up to the queen i mean yes
they'll kill their own queens and be like nope we're getting ready for a new queen you're uh you're
done not performing her tasks anymore it's exactly right and that's why you know a lot of uh
beekeepers. That brings me to a thought. I'd like to jump in here for a second before we do that.
I get this last letter on to kind of toss at you. But whenever I was at Preper Camp, I've taken at least two
beekeeper classes. I'm sure you've attended those as well. Yeah. The larva, sometimes there's
a queen larva that will be there. And when another queen larvae appears, it's the job of the beekeeper
to make sure that that that that queen larva is removed and generally it could be put somewhere else
split you know immediately as soon as it's that's that's whatever it's got to be split and you can
create a second hive that way but you cannot have two queens no in a single hive um that's something
i think thought also was necessary uh because if if you don't kill it uh you got to do something else
with it but it cannot stay in that hive it will not function that way a hive cannot function
with two brains. It's got to have one
to make it a cohesive
functioning
hive body. Yep.
But that made me kind of think about this whole
have you been paying attention to
the whole New York City race and all that
New York City mayor race has been going on
with Zoran Mondami and
or was it? Yeah, a little bit.
I mean, I think I've
I have caught a lot of the tail end of this stuff
because I think that there was a little bit of
a push ahead of time to make sure that this didn't happen and it did and there were a couple
of key players who were like this is not a good idea if you guys don't get out there and vote or if we
don't you know try and make sure that this doesn't happen then we're going to be we're going
to be under the thumb of this particular guy and people like oh whatever they'll just pick
whoever they want you know that or people didn't show up and I think especially this last
election I think there was a lot of people that didn't show up
Or, who knows, maybe people did show up and, you know, there's a, some democratic ship that we're about to really start to see happen.
But, yeah, that's, the whole thing in New York's kind of messed up.
There was one comment that I saw online that, you know, hasn't even been, what, 25 years since the World Trade Center was destroyed.
were the twin towers were destroyed and here's new york city uh basically under the control of
a muslim leader yes it's like he that timeline ship is kind of he's a muslim socialist and
i remember clearly you know the united states was was chanting uh we we will not we will never forget
or never forget became the you know the motto and and it's like there was no republicans democrats it's just
Like we were unified Americans at that time.
But if you look at a lot, I as a police officer,
I pull over a lot of people.
But it's astounding to me how many people I pull over
was born after 2001.
And they're in their 20s now.
It's like, where is time gone?
And these are the people now that's, you know,
the entitled group that's electing our people.
And it's even worse when you go into the inner cities
and especially the inner socialist cities.
previously blue Democrat
cities. They just keep
falling further and further in
one direction. Instead of staying
moderate where everyone needs to be,
they just keep going in one direction.
But I can't remember
exactly what the stats were, but I have,
I'm showing as far as the election votes
go for Zora Mamdani,
he had 1,036,051
votes. So we carried 50.4
percent.
I was just barely.
Andrew Cuomo,
carried 41.6.
So the fight was really between those two.
But a lot of what I've heard, and again, I don't have the numbers in front of me,
but a lot of what I've heard was the vote, a lot like his pool of voters, where by and
large, the refugee, the illegal alien refugee types, those kind of individuals, the extreme
left liberals and left-wing Democrats and, and, uh,
the new york city new york city yeah it's it's the ones that uh that we really don't want voting in the
in the general election yeah which was the big plan you know a long time ago in letting you know
reopening the gates pretty much the floodgates just letting these illegal aliens just kind of pour
in so that these guys could uh could change electoral college votes in their are in their blue states
and and make it so that it you know the almost always blue states will never be a red
state yeah i mean if anything it shows that the bina administration's plan to flood the united states
and make socialist promises is working i mean it makes me wonder if it's too late you know because
here we are we are seeing now the impact of what happened two to four years ago and when a lot
of people like you and me were screaming from the rooftop saying hey this is a bad idea this is
what's going to happen even though that it is happening now people aren't going to realize the
significance of that for many years past i mean like like my friend usually says whenever we get
into conversations about socialism and communism that you know you can vote your way into socialism
but you got to shoot your way out oh yeah you do because once you lose a freedom it's not given back to
you hell no when's the last time you voted for a uh a small tax hike for a school
it got a break in taxes once the school was built oh yeah it doesn't it just they keep
going i mean once it's gone it's gone and like i said if you you can vote your way in but you
got to shoot your way out and that's and with new york good luck shoot your way out when you can't
even own a firearm new york is also reporting that uh
This mayoral general election saw us an 84% increase in voter turnout compared to 2021.
That's a huge, huge increase, 84%.
That's huge.
That's statistically significant, for sure.
Any dominated in black neighborhoods?
This is from a website called City and State, New York.
It says, while Mamdani struggled to win over black voters in the primary election,
with Cuomo surpassing the Young Democratic nominee by 16 points in predominantly black neighborhoods,
during the general election,
Mamdani won over the city's black voters.
The black vote swung dramatically,
said election expert Michael Lang.
It's the reason Mamdani not only got 50%,
but that he won at all.
So it goes on to say on Tuesday night,
the mayor elected won 63% of the vote
in districts with 40% or more black eligible voters
compared to Cuomo's 33%.
What do you suppose that's all about,
especially if they called it for the other side?
well you know what just just looking at at what i know about uh black voters in populated like these
a lot of these cities right here and what i've a lot of what i've been seeing in the past especially
in the general election i don't really understand what's going on here new york city has always been
the way that it is it's just getting worse but by and large black voters have have caught on to
democrat promises and i've i've watched all the videos of them showing up the city halls and saying you know
You keep giving our money away to these illegals.
You know, that was back when Biden was the president and the illegals are flooding in.
And people are getting sick of seeing the free iPhones or the free Android phones, wherever they're giving away.
The free phones to the illegal immigrants, seeing the free housing thing, you know, put up free house.
The free checks, the free Medicaid, you know, going out with all these illegal aliens.
And here they've been complaining the whole time.
If they want reparations, they've been not getting reparations, right?
So because they kept, they kept crying about legislation.
We need the legislation to do that.
Well, there was no legislation to giving out all these free things.
They found a way to rob for Peter to pay Paul to make that happen.
And what they did was, if you remember right, all the FEMA money that didn't go to Georgia, to North Carolina and all that stuff.
They took money from FEMA and they gave it.
And they called the invasion.
Yes, they called it a invasion or a crisis, a border crisis.
And they used that money to pay these illegal immigrants to give them housing.
because there was a housing crisis.
Yeah, and I think, you know, there is probably something to be said about the fact that this vote happened in the middle of a government shutdown that directly affected SNAP benefits through November like we had talked about a couple of weeks ago.
And I have a feeling that the sway of that, the inner city black vote might have hinged on promises that were made.
at that level like hey you know if and or the spin that that was put on snap benefit
uh disbursements and and the actual shutdown and how that all shut out don't i can't say for sure
but i well it could be that they were blaming trump because anytime something negative happens
and the you know oh sure um it the president of the united states is always going to be the face
of that that problem even though all the whole snap debacle the food stamp crack the government
shut down was not a President Trump issue at all. This was a fight between the House and the Senate
and the Democrat and Republicans in Congress. Yeah. The Republicans put forward a bill that Chuck Schumer
had voted for previously, and it was, it was saying. The Republicans kept calling a clean
resolution. The CR bill. It was a clean resolution. In other words, this is the exact same.
We're not, we didn't add anything to it. This is the exact same thing with nothing.
added to it, vote for this, and the Democrats 13 times voted against it.
At least that was the last time I read on it, was 13 times they'd voted against it.
So it doesn't matter because what you're going to be watching,
especially the new crew is coming on up in the, you know, the Zima generation,
because they get all their news from little twists and video clips and stuff like that on TikTok
and, you know, Facebook and Instagram and all these other places.
And it's just a snippet that is twisted by people like Harry Sisson, you know,
and CNN and all these goons on the left.
And they twist and completely lie about the context to spin it
and to make it what they want the narrative to be.
In this case, Orange Man Bad, right?
This is President Trump.
They kept saying, you know, the Republicans have the president's office.
They have the House.
They have the Senate.
So it's their fault that this is not passing.
Completely twisting the truth, right?
This is not about who's in power.
This is about you need 60 votes to get this resolution passed.
And the Republicans could not pull off 60 votes by themselves,
even though they have control of both the House and the Senate.
They did not have the 60 votes in the Senate they needed to get this CR bill passed.
They needed some Democrats to vote the other way.
But that doesn't matter when you get people like CNN and Harry Cuomo and, you know,
you get Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and all these other guys.
goons getting up there and saying, well, they're in control of everything.
If they, why ain't they pass?
Well, they're just lying to the American people's face.
By the way, sidebar, Nancy Pelosi has come out and state as she is finally going to retire.
Hallelujah.
Praise the Lord and pass the biscuits.
Yeah.
No kidding.
After what?
60 years.
Exactly.
Term limits, please.
But that's a whole other issue.
That's going to be an amendment to the Constitution.
So 60 years.
Yeah.
That's a long.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, what is happening in New York is, I think, I mean, it isn't indicative of everything, everywhere else in the country.
But I think for those of us who have seen the world before 2001 and knew what things were like and how things changed.
where the world went after that
I think it's hard
it's a bit of a hit
to those of us
who can read between the lines
and see what's happening
and have no control
and really I mean
we have no say
I'm not from New York
you're not from New York
we don't live there
but I feel bad
for the people of New York
because I have a feeling
especially not all of New York
but New York City specifically
because of the mayor
because I think that is a
a sign of things to come in other areas like Texas, Chicago, Chicago, Seattle, parts of California.
I mean, your trending blue line is going to become the type of thing where, you know, it's a slippery slope.
And I don't want to say that because of a specific religion or how that works, but there is a
enough of that there of an impact and the significance of that in new york city that kind of makes
it kind of makes a lot of lives lost um frivolously as a result of of everything and i it's
it's uh it's eye opening that new york would fall because i and that's what it had to my my opinion
that's what's happened new york has fallen oh yeah and we can talk i would like to let we do that on the next
the next show actually we can talk about how how Muslims plan because there's actually a plan
in place how America could be defeated how the West in particular could be defeated and it's all
about invasion and there's several organizations Islamic organizations who are set up to do it
peacefully and when I say peacefully I mean you know just invade quietly slowly before they take over
because yes there are peaceful Muslims but it's just a matter of time before there's enough peaceful
peaceful Muslims in place in a location where somebody steps up, okay, it's time for you to step
up your game now. You've been too passive. You've been letting the Fidel get away with things for
too long. You've been letting the Constitution run you when Allah is the only one who should be
running you, you know, that kind of a thing. And this is something that's been going on in other
countries. And you can see what's happening right now in the United Kingdom. They are almost gone
because they're actually, the voters are actually outnumbered now, if I remember reading correctly, by Muslims.
Yeah.
There's no, and that's the thing is it's like there's no bloodshed like a crusade, but there is definitely a migration of cultures that exists without bloodshed.
And that, I think that kind of that slow boil is if it ever comes to a head by the time it does, the people,
who essentially are being suppressed by it
are going to be so outnumbered
that they won't be able to fight back.
I don't recall the year you were born.
Was you alive during the Cold War?
Tail end.
Yeah, but okay, so the Cold War.
I think it was resolved by the time I was born.
From like 1947 to 1991, you were definitely alive, but yeah, it was.
Yeah.
Well, I guess 91, yeah, I was still alive.
Yeah, but basically it was just, you don't have to have, there don't have to be bloodshed to be at war.
China's been saying for a long time, they're going to, they're going to defeat us without ever firing a bullet.
Yeah, and I can see it.
I mean, if you have a, if you have a migration level where you outnumber people and, and wind up voting in your own kind on one side, and then you have a second prong where you, you.
have so much control over markets, food, products, raw materials that all you have to do is
stop, stop sending it, stop shipping it, or make it so expensive that it's impossible.
Then, I mean, you could cripple a nation with a simple two-pronged approach like that.
It would take time, a generation or two, but that's what we're looking at.
I mean, in the past 25 years, we're only, you know, we're, it's.
at least a quarter of the way from to not being the United States that our own
forefathers had fought and died for in the 40s, you know, and even before that.
Look at Dearborn, Michigan.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Were they playing sirens in the street?
Yeah.
Most of the recent sources are saying on Dearborn having roughly 110,000 people with about
54.5% identifying as, let me see, Muslim.
And I mean, I mean, I might sound like a, like I'm screaming from the rooftops here,
but, you know, people don't realize that the places where you have grown up and or are
living have the very real potential to become areas that require that your wife,
your daughter, your niece, your mother have to wear burqa.
to go outside or a Niquab or whatever headscarf you want to call it and people don't think
that can happen well guess what it can and there's a very real possible potential that that could
happen within the next 20 years we've never seen it more closely than it is now absolutely i mean
the thing is is like the younger generation of folks that were are voting in new york
they're going to be the ones that are bringing that you know introducing this they're just going to open the door and let it happen because they don't know any different and anybody that tries to tell them any different they're either not listening to or they are they're on the other side of the fence so you can't kind of phobic yeah you're a phob Islamophobic or something uh-huh it's like yeah I have I have a valid reason for being an Islamophote because I've seen what can happen you know and
you know there there's a lot of people fighting in the united kingdom right now who are you know
the the white cross is really starting to come up more so than ever than i've seen before
in social media and there's a reason for that you know what's the white cross
the crusade not white cross the red cross okay with the white background that's what i meant
there's a name for that cross and i can't remember what it's what it's called like the crusaders
yeah yeah but I mean and that was a bloody war for the holy land and you know here we are still fighting over the holy land quote unquote with Israel and all that kind of back and forth like where we're sending our money or shouldn't be sending and it's like you know I understand religious intent and you know political nuances but on the other hand we are a nation
And as a melting pod that we are, you know, if you can come here and be a normal person and
assimilate within our culture and still be able to have your own religious rights, that's great.
But if it turns into essentially a takeover.
Yeah, it's like not a hostile takeover.
And maybe it is a hostile takeover in business when they do that.
It will be at some point.
It's not going to say it won't be remaining a peaceful, you know, eventually, like I said earlier,
There's going to be so many, when you've reached a population, a tipping point,
and you lose, you'll lose control at that point.
Yeah.
And we already see it happening overseas in the United Kingdom.
Have they reached that point, you know?
I mean, at the point that they've reached now, it's just a matter of time, you know,
because there are, there are places in the UK where they've elected persons in Dearborn as well here in the United States
where they've elected people who are Muslim to be, to rule over them.
and it's not it's not it's just the start of woes the start of bad things to come because
you okay sure this guy promised a lot of free things but what about the guy after him you know
is he going to uh you know where's he going where's mom donnie going to leave it for the is he going
to do a good job to show the american people oh look muslims aren't all that bad you know sure
he's just as another democrat socialist just trying to give free things to the american people
but what he's doing is setting the stage for another one and then another one and then another one.
And over time, you just begin to lull your, ebb your rights away.
Kind of like we've been seeing, people are listening to this right now saying, well, you don't have to lose your rights.
Really?
Because how many of us truly have a Second Amendment right anymore?
You know what I'm saying?
We can't just strap a pistol on a hip, but walk around town.
At least in most states, you can't do that.
But according to...
Sure, you can do it in New York City.
Right.
Absolutely.
But you should be able to because what other amendment do you have where the government
says you need to carry a permit for that or you need to qualify and have a license or take
special training to have that right?
No other amendment.
And also no other amendment says shall not be infringed is attached to it.
The second amendment is a very, very sacred amendment to our Constitution.
and there's a reason why they said shall not be infringed when they attached on there.
They knew that these morons would be coming along behind them and try and, in time, try and take that away
because it's the one thing that keeps the power in the people's hands.
Yeah.
But let's take a quick break right now.
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So the governor of New York,
this is crazy to me.
The governor of New York just kind of sat quietly
while Mamdani was running his campaign.
She did not involve herself at all.
But Kathy Hochel, the governor of New York,
if I said New York,
I meant the governor of New York.
The governor of New York just sat quiet.
quietly and watched from her ivory tower as Zora Mamdami promised the New York City voters
that he would provide them with free child care, free busing, free city ran grocery stores,
that he's going to add 2% income tax to millionaires to make this happen,
that he's going to raise a corporate tax to 11.5% that he's going to make a citywide rent
like he's going to freeze citywide
the rents. I'm not sure what the
good word for that would be. But yeah,
citywide rent freezes.
And she said nothing.
Okay. So he's, his entire campaign
is running on these promises.
And to the millennial voter,
to the ZNZ voters, all these guys
I taught, you know, that was born
after 2020 or two, I'm sorry,
2000, uh,
who's probably had a lot of free stuff given to them
in their lifetime living in New York.
So, well, yeah, why not?
know, if they're going to tax the rich, I've seen the interviews.
They love the idea of taxing the rich because they just don't understand how the whole
capitalism thing works.
Okay.
So they just want to tax the rich, throw more income, more tax on the rich, increase the
corporate income tax.
It all sound good for them so they can have free busing, free child care, free city-run
grocery stores, on and on and on.
I mean, who wouldn't want, you know, to rent an apartment building for, I don't know,
in New York City, we'll say $1,000 a month, and it gets, and freeze.
Like, nana, nana, you can't raise my rent, you know.
Of course, that sounds great.
But the problem then becomes once Zoron won the election,
he then had to face the truth, right, that these tax dollars,
not only do they have to come from somewhere,
but everything that he said he was going to promise has to go first to the city council.
Yeah.
Which is a board of elected persons, elected officials,
who are each representing a district that they're elected from, right?
And they have to tell their constituents, hey, I voted for your income tax raise.
Or, hey, I voted that you be taxed.
Or, hey, we're going to have to do this and do this so we can make this free busing,
this free child care, rent.
They're not willing to do that.
Nobody is going to do that.
And so this is funny because Katham Hocel came out and said,
sorry, we can't do that.
we're already texting our rich half to death and if you text them anymore they're going to run out of our state
no it ain't going to happen so he's already breaking his first promises yeah and i mean there are
it's very new york city is a hub for several headquarters um but what's going to happen is you're
going to have major businesses that are like if this goes through we're out something's going to happen
if it gets pushed through or whatever, even a little bit,
you know, these businesses are going to be like,
nah, we can do business and make more money
by shifting our headquarters to Greensboro, Alabama or whatever,
Greensboro, North Carolina.
And so they'll set up shop there.
The rent side of things is also kind of interesting
because what will happen is that if you freeze rent,
If you just do a blanket rent freeze policy, then you will wind up having people who as over time, like it's fine now.
But over time, what will happen is because of the real estate shortfall in New York City and as inflation starts to go up, what will happen is someone who has a $1,000 apartment.
all of a sudden
whoever owns that structure
has even less money
to be able to keep the structure intact
so the structures themselves
are going to go into a state of disrepair
faster than ever before
and then they're just going to wind up
becoming like Section 8 housing
the 80s version of
oh what the hell is it
it was a section of New York that was just basically garbage
like Andrew Cuomo Bronx yeah
what were they the
anyways
borough you're going to
they're called boroughs yep the burrows
and you know you're going to have it's going to basically turn
New York these these great ideas are going to turn New York
into, you know, basically a shithole, even worse than it is now, because, yeah, you might
have a rent-controlled apartment, but in 10 years, that same apartment is not going to have any repairs
and it's not, it's just going to start falling apart.
The grocery store one is interesting to me because that's also happening in Seattle.
There was something that recently happened where they're trying to push some regulation where grocery store owners can no longer voluntarily close their doors.
And I think this happened as a result of the SNAP benefit fallout because they were concerned of, you know, riots and all kinds of stuff.
And basically the city of Seattle is saying, no, you can't close.
you are forced to keep your doors open regardless of of any sort of turbulence.
If you, you know, if you're in the city of Seattle, you have to keep your grocery store doors open.
That is going to be interesting.
And I think the socialist side of grocery stores in New York is going to have a similar impact.
Because if they're state-run grocery stores and, you know, you have state employees run,
you're pretty much eliminating any of the profit center of that and grocery stores are
pretty much just going to fall by the wayside too so in a nutshell you're going to have
what did i what do i say first the the uh the rental side of it then the grocery store side
and there was one other thing we got the free child care the free busing oh yeah
So, I mean, I can see how that be worked to get the votes he needed.
But making those promises, even if they do come true, is basically just going to position New York in a way that is unsustainable.
Oh, the high taxes on business.
That's the other one.
They have corporate taxes to 11.5 percent.
Yep.
That's huge.
It is huge, but here's what people aren't understanding.
it always let's look at the the stores first let's say that they don't replace them with state employees let's just say it's a network kind of an operation where where they're regulated by the city okay so the store owner still maintains control or ownership but is controlled through via regulations okay um so if they're forced to keep their door open for example that means they're going to have to staff it an additional eight perhaps 16 hours depending on what what their shop hours are
to keep that employee in there, okay?
Now, go ahead.
I was just saying, guess what happens to the price of the food?
That's what you're going to say.
The price always passes on to the consumer.
That's what people are not understanding.
It always passes on to the consumer.
And there's another promise that I forgot to mention.
He's promising to raise a New York City minimum wage to $30 an hour.
Holy shit.
Oh, God.
Some of this stuff he's saying will take,
will happen over time like as gradual like it's not supposed to happen instantaneously you know but
it doesn't matter because over the span of let's say even over 10 years when you raise the minimum
weight to 30 30 an hour and you're having to staff an additional 8 to 16 hours a store let's say
it's normally closed on the weekends you're looking at 24 at 48 hours additional staffing right
yeah um you're talking about that that that property owner no longer is making any money
Therefore, he has to go in.
He has to increase the cost of his milk from $3 a gallon to $15 a gallon.
Yeah.
So he could pay his employees and continue to pay the extremely high mortgage on his house.
And these rent freezes.
And the taxes are going to go up.
So he has to pay for that, pay for that.
The rent freezes.
Not all these rent rental places, these places where the rent is going to be, it's straight out owned.
All right.
some of them is being rented by people who is paying a mortgage.
So let's say I bought a building in New York City, all right, and I want to pay that.
Let's see my mortgage is through the bank is $1,000 a month, which is low in a city.
And I rent that out.
I want to make a profit off of that, right?
So I'm going to increase the rent.
It's not going to be $1,000 a month.
It's going to be higher than that so I can make a profit.
on it, right? Well, yeah, plus pay your taxes and repairs. Exactly. So, you know, it's just one of
those things that it's like nobody's really thinking this through. You're making all this promises
because especially for a moron like Mom Donnie who's never done anything in his life and he was
raised on Silver Spoon. He was not brought up in poverty like you let people to believe. He
has been rich his entire life and everything has been given to him. He doesn't understand how the
system works and he's telling people who doesn't know how the system works what he's going to do to make the
system work and they believe it. They eat it all up. It's called Kool-Aid. And you might remember
the Jones, the story of the guy's name that they gave the Kool-Aid to all the people in his
cult. They all drank the Kool-Aid and they all died because they thought that they were going
to jump on. Was it in a comment or they're all going to go to heaven or something like? I can't
remember. Yeah, they're being up to a spaceship or something like that. Something very bizarre,
you know, and that's kind of what's going on here. You get these guys out there with a lot. He reminds
me of a very young version of Brock Obama. Like a co-leader. Yeah.
Barack Obama was very charismatic individual. He had a fork-tooth, a fork-tong. I mean,
he was eloquent in his speech, horrible off the prompter. But he had a lot of Riz, as they
call it these days, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. People loved him, especially the Democrats, and he
wouldn't have won his election, if not for the moderate voters and the white voters.
you, you, 98% of all black voters went out to vote for Barack Obama, okay?
That's a huge freaking swing of voters voting for, for one person based on Curtis Kin.
If 98% of, of white people voted for the other person who was running, you know,
it wouldn't have been a win for Barack Obama.
So that just goes to show that America is not systemically racist, okay?
But let's pivot that now, because how many Muslims do you think went out and voted for Zorn Mamdani?
and as you continue to let the gates be open to our country and no walls, no borders,
and these guys continue to flood in here, they're all going to keep on voting for this guy.
And it will eventually reach a point of no return where these guys are in every elected office
and eventually the president of the United States office.
And then when they're in control of all the states and they're in control of the House,
the Senate, the executive branch, and they got all their positions of power in the governor's seats
how hard do you really think it'll be
to get a super majority vote
to change anything in the Constitution?
Exactly.
I knew you were going there.
I was like, I mean,
Second Amendment, what's that?
We don't want any guns in this country.
This country could get rid of the Second Amendment.
It just takes a super majority vote to do it.
And that's a scary thought.
I mean, that's the kind of, that is the type of thing
where if, if like you say,
it is done in a slow, methodical,
way where they just kind of walk in
and never fire a bullet, never
draw blood, then what will happen is
there will be no choice with those
America, I mean, that's their plan.
Yeah.
And the people who feel they have a choice
of however millions of gun owners
there are in the United States
are going to have to basically take up arms to
fight their way out.
Yes.
And, I mean, inside of 20 to 30 years, that course could very well happen.
You can see it now, though, can't you?
Where before you could.
Oh, yeah, night and day.
I would never have thought that on September 12th of 2001 that we would be where we are today.
And frankly, it's disgusting.
But here we are.
Here we are.
I mean, how in the world did that happen?
Yeah.
It's a question I asked myself on a pretty regular basis.
Like, how did we get here?
Yeah.
And I don't know because I felt, you know, the boomers raised me, right?
And currently it's believed that the Gen X is one of the strongest,
the last strong generation that's out there.
But I saw it in my kids, you know, the millennials.
and I didn't here's the thing I didn't do anything I didn't raise them any differently than I was raised
you know they got they got spankings when they did wrong I kept things from them when they didn't
deserve it I made them earn things nothing was given to them just like I was raised but it happened
in the schools yeah I believe that with all my heart it happened through social media
the kids were were plugged in to things I wasn't plugged into as a kid and they were being
gas lit in the creek through the curriculum and so uh those ideologies crept into them you
know somebody figured out somewhere along the way that we if we can't reach them if we can't get
their parents to raise them we want that we'll have the teachers do it we'll have social media
do it we'll have these tech giants do it and i think i think that's how we got to where we are
it started some some somebody evil somewhere came up with this plan
And brought this Trojan horse in and did it that way.
Yeah, right through the education system.
Yes.
Because you know that's not happening at home.
It's not happening at your house or mine.
And it's media, not just social media, but media in general,
education system.
And this whole concept of,
free socialism that everything is okay and we can we can get stuff for free and we deserve this
the entitlement component and I mean it's it's gonna take a lot of suffering I think like people
are gonna feel good again you know there's a little bit of that not always that little bit of
glitter that comes from getting something for free but once that fades it's gonna get
dark and it's going to get a little creepy immediately following that so and i think what it's
going to take is people to go through hard times to realize how significant the warning is that
we are giving right now and yeah and you know i don't i think there's still hope oh yeah you know if
you got people like zora mandani coming in and promising these things and then obviously you can't
keep the promises it makes it look bad that but muslim's going to learn this they're going to
to learn that they can't make promises that they can't keep and expect to get into office again.
I suspect that they're going to portray themselves as conservatives, you know, in the long
run, get into office that way, and then flip the script on society.
That's how I believe it's going to go down.
You can see all you want to get in and then vote wherever you want.
I mean, you can change midstream if you want.
It's no, I mean, you might get primaried, depending on what is happening.
But I think if you have a couple of years and you just cycle people through, get them voted in,
and then they just vote however they want, you know, even behind the scenes,
I don't go through and check on my representatives' votes and how they voted on things back and forth.
But I don't see a whole lot of people.
doing a lot of research on how these people are voting or what what they're actually where
their hearts are as public figures you know oh yeah and i do want to play this one that'll
sound like before we go um because there is this is a funny this is a funny clip coming from uh from
fox business but there was a new york city councilwoman who came on on the show and uh said
quote zora momdami is a scam and so she's you know how trump is a troll like he's
He's 100% troll.
He will say things just to gig somebody
and make an entire
fricking civilization of people upset.
And I think he gets a thrill out of doing it.
And that's what she's doing here.
So she comes on.
She's obviously a troll,
but just listen to this sound bite here.
It's about a three-minute video.
It's interesting.
We can talk about that for a minute
and then we can let our listeners go.
But listen to this.
Listen to this.
New York City Councilwoman Iena Vernikov
has invited Benjamin Netanyahu
to New York City on January the 1st.
That is the day of Zohan Mamdani's inauguration.
Well, the councilwoman is here, joining us in New York City,
and welcome to the show.
Thank you so much for having me.
Why'd you invite him?
So, you know, I think Zohan Mamdani, the radical 34-year-old Marxist
and his comrades are about to find out
that there's no money growing on trees for free buses,
and you can't arrest foreign diplomats.
So I invited Bibi, of course,
because the Jewish community in New York City
is having a lot of anxiety
about this guy becoming mayor.
They're scared for their safety.
They're scared for their children. And it would be a great
symbol of a bond between Israel and the
New York City's Jewish community
to come here and just be with the Jewish
people. It's a challenge.
You're challenging Mandani to arrest him.
The other reason that I did that is to expose him
for the fraud that he is, because Doherndam,
the Mamdani is a scam.
The mayor of New York City has no legal authority to arrest a sitting prime minister.
In fact, it is illegal.
The United States is not a signatory to the Rome Statute, which created ICC, which has a warrant out for his arrest.
It is essentially a kangaroo court.
And it's just he's going to become the laughing stop when the prime minister comes here and he can arrest him.
Have you invited? Well, I know you've invited him. Have you got a response from him yet?
Well, I don't kiss and tell, but I can assure you that very, very, very young.
soon we're going to see Prime Minister Netanyahu in New York City.
That would be a real challenge to the city, wouldn't it?
It would be great. That's what it is, basically. Let's look at some of this proposed policies
from Mandani. He says he wants social workers responding to 911 calls. There is a test pilot program
of that already in existence in New York, and it's falling to pieces. It's just not working.
He's not going to get this through, is he? Well, look, this thing is over before it even starts.
He's being exposed for the fraud that he is. Of course, you can't have social workers respond
to 911 calls.
It's like, you know, when they say,
you can't bring a knife to a gunfight.
This is like bringing a napkin to a gunfight.
So what is he going to do?
Social worker shows up, give a little Xanax to the criminal.
It's not going to work.
It's ridiculous.
What, back to Netanyahu for a second.
Where would he speak?
Would he address a special meeting of Jewish folks in New York
or the United Nations?
What do you propose?
Oh, we have a lot of plans for BB.
It's going to be great.
You are confident that he's coming, aren't you?
He's going to come.
He's going to come to New York City.
We're going to have baby here.
One more.
Mandani proposes universal childcare, $6 billion a year.
It's not going to happen, is it?
That's crazy.
Just like the rest of the proposals that he's making, it cannot happen.
What are we going to do?
We're going to take away, in order for that to happen, we need to tax the rich, the 1% corporations.
Well, what's going to happen is they're just going to flee New York City because, quite frankly, it's going to become a crime-ridden city, even more than it is now.
there's garbage everywhere. There's no incentive for corporations and rich people to stay here.
And then when they flee, the burden is going to shift to the middle class and the poor.
You're saying he's failed before he even starts.
Over before it even started.
Okay. Well, leave it there.
What do you think?
I mean, that's a really succinct way of saying what I had mentioned earlier.
Yeah. I mean, she is spot on. I think she's got to get head on her shoulders.
And if there's even one other person like her on the city council,
the mayor is going to play hell getting things pushed through,
which is going to be,
it's going to be eye-opening to the voters who voted him in.
But it's also, if it does prevent him from doing these things,
it will be a testament, one, to the people, like she said earlier,
the New Yorkers that are scared,
the people who live in New York City
who are fearful of
their commutes to work or whatever
and things getting worse
but it's also going to
solidify the power
of the Democratic Republic
and
I think
I think seeing it not happen
is far more important than saying
things devolve
Because if these things just kind of get pushed through, if we got New York all of a sudden got $6 billion worth of child care and socialists doing 911 call response on a much larger scale, you are going to see a de-evolution of things much faster, I mean, significantly faster than even I would have expected.
Yeah, and just so everybody knows, like when he's saying, you know, have a social worker go out and respond to,
911 calls. Basically, I don't know if he's planning on getting rid of police officers or just sitting, because that's not really clarified, or sitting a social worker there by themselves. Either way, I think what he's wanting to do is, if I just had to guess, I haven't read his proposal, is that when a police officer is dispatched, a caseworker is also dispatched. And the therapist goes in after the area is secured this, you know, I worked 25 years in maximum security mental health facility. We had caseworkers. We had therapists.
Basically, we would handle the situation, and our therapist would come in and try to de-escalate the situation a little bit more by talking to the person.
I don't know.
It's dangerous.
You definitely don't want to send a caseworker into, we're talking about mental health.
The mental health code is way different than the criminal code.
You don't want to sit a caseworker to a hot call hoping to de-escalate something, especially where there's at least one gun involved because there's always at least one gun at every encounter police officer reports to.
yeah um so uh that's that's a thing you know police officers get wrestled down to the ground
all the time their guns get taken and they either flee or kill the police officer with
their own weapon and you know these are the things that uh you just can't make broad promises
like this uh it's ludicrous it is and it'll be interesting to see over the course of the
next uh calendar year and check in
where's New York, you know, see, see what's happening.
You know, if you could just take a snapshot as of January 1, 2026,
the day he gets inaugurated and then see what happens January 1, 2027,
and just see how many businesses have left, what the crime rate has done,
how much he's actually gotten accomplished,
and, you know, if any of the things that we have talked about today actually came to pass.
Yeah, we'll have to revisit it later.
Sounds like something we can definitely go back a revisit later.
I can tell you right now, though, that he's already looking at a wall.
He's running to a wall throughout the bat with that governor of New York saying,
sorry, we can't fund these things that you promised.
So, yeah, let's talk about it again in a few months and see how things have progressed.
Nice.
All right.
Thanks, Doug.
Yes, got a good chat.
Always nice chat with you guys.
Ryan, you take care of yourself.
Everybody else listening to Out There, thank you for listening to the Rising Republic with L.
Douglas Sogan, Ryan Buford.
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