The Prepper Broadcasting Network - Will the USA Get Nuked? w? Dave Jones the NBC GUY

Episode Date: June 23, 2025

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You're listening to P.B.N. Your path back to stability. the live. The audience. Yeah, live. I don't get to do live very much. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I don't do the Monday nights that much anymore. We got to get back to Monday nights. They're fun. But the the audience got a show at like 630 this morning, which is weird. I usually go on at nine. Now here I am on at nine by accident live with you. Yeah, it's gonna be good. It's gonna be a good day. So we are talking, well, we watched this thing happen with Iran over the weekend. A lot of speculation, a lot of thought, you know, what's coming next, what kind of capabilities are out there, you know, all that kind of stuff. And we said, we got to get together and do it. We were hoping to do it the night of, you know, and but here we are on Monday, right, right, right with the morning

coffee born to wrap in chat. What's up, buddy? Thanks for joining us. Yeah. So how you feeling Dave Jones with all this? Oh, well, you know, I did a daily audio cash last Thursday. I think that was last time I was on and I said, I was most likely to go down on Friday and I missed it by 24 hours because it was down on Saturday. That was, you were reading minds everywhere last week, by the way. You were, you were trapped into people.

You were on that spectrum for sure. You had it. You just figure out what's most likely, what's most common sense. In emergency management, we deal with probabilities all the time. You figure out what's the probability of a hurricane, you know, if a tornado flooding, all that kind of stuff. And the probability of Iran retaliating is, is huge. Now what it's going to be, you know, I, I've said this, you know, has our Intel agencies ever been wrong? They're good at it.

I mean, they've been wrong more times than they've been right. If you remember all the North Korea and when they developed their atomic weapons, Oh, North Korea does not have an atomic weapon. Boom. Well, it's not that big of an atomic weapon. And, oh, they'll never be able to launch anything from a missile. And they have two payloads in orbit right now.

So, you know, they launched from a submarine. Every time the Intel community came out and told us something, it turned out to be wrong. So if they're telling us right now that Iran didn't, you know, we're six weeks, they're always six weeks. Why is that? They've been six weeks out for three, four years at least. Yeah.

Could they be wrong with that? They're not doing anything, making any progress. Goofing off. Goofing off. So could they have a nuclear weapon right now? Yeah. I mean, it's possible. And, you know, this scenario of a cargo ship parked 200 miles off the coast and you know missiles They proved that they can do missiles really well That research and development went on during Barack Obama Hey, and and this was interesting too So my neighbor wanted to talk after the bombing. So I go over there.

And we're talking and they said, I don't think you should bomb another country. I said, well, it's kind of been that way since Clinton. Tomahawk diplomacy has been the way we did business. I mean, remember Libya? Oh yeah. We bombed the crap out of Libya, toppled the dictator, caused the Arab Spring, and that was all under Obama.

Obama bombed more countries than any other president since Roosevelt, since World War II. And then you know what, and what happened after that? He got a Nobel peace prize. Yeah, exactly. Remember? Yeah. That was the best. That was one of the greatest things.

I mean, he bombed more countries than Bush and the war on terror going on. So, so that's just the way it is. Yeah. Yeah. My man, the question I have is drones too. The peaceful man did. Yeah. He had a, a kill list called the disp matrix, disposition, make matrix,

disposition matrix. Oh, yeah. This position matrix. And it was a list of people around the world that he wanted killed with drones and missiles. That's left, that is definitely some strong left-wing too. It's not a kill list, it's a disposition matrix. That's about as 1984 as it gets. Exactly. Oh man. My one comes down, you know the big question now is what is it the big question yeah

No, you go ahead. The big question is what? Well, is it the retaliation in Iran, right Well, you know who's gonna side with them against us? Because yeah, that is the big question. The world seems to be divided. Of course, yesterday they were at the UN Security Council making their case that this shouldn't have happened and the United States should be condemned and we have the right to retaliate and you know all that kind of stuff. So I feel like they have the right. China seems to be on Iran's side of course. Yeah and they're definitely going do it. And the sleeper cell thing,

it's kinda like I said on Thursday. Uh oh, I keep going in and out. I hear you. You sound good on my end. Yeah, you sound good on my end. Okay. Okay. Well, yeah, just fine. Okay, we're on a little so they're gonna do it's gonna be big Okay, it's gonna be big because they want something that

dwarfs 9-eleven So it's gonna be that big 9-11. So it's going to be that big. They're not going to just come in and shoot up a mall and be done with it. It's going to be simultaneous attacks. Well, like I said, that nuke that's parked off the coast, your coastal city. And even if it's a small nuke and you could say, well, if they launch on Washington DC, which is definitely in range, they got bunkers and stuff, well, they've never been too keen to go after military targets. So it doesn't matter to them. They're wanting body count. They want to dwarf 9-11. So they're going for major metropolitan areas, large body counts and very flashy. Whatever it's going to be, it's going to be big.

Protracted, you think? Protracted war with Iran? Or do you think it's going to be something that goes pretty hot and then pretty done? Because they're getting smashed by Israel too at the same time. Well, yeah. And I'll tell you, I do not see us having boots on the ground. I do not see an invasion of Iran. I don't, I don't see that ever happening, but, um, they're going to do something back to us and then as Trump told them, them, I saw this interesting meme where Trump and Bibi Nitin, Yahoo! are talking. And he says, you know, I heard there's Trump is saying to Bibi,

I heard that there are no Walmarts in Iran. And Bibi says, yeah, they only have targets. I ran and BB says, yeah, they only have targets. It certainly looks that way right now, man. They're getting lit up for sure. Yeah. It's, uh, my son came downstairs after the bombing and said, jokingly, am I getting drafted or what, you know what I mean? And I don't know. I'd like, I'd, I'd kind of like your take on the, or what, you know what I mean? And I don't know, I'd like, I'd kind of like your take on the

or what, you know, just your intuition. Because the way I look at it is the way I look at the world right now in terms of American draft is like, for who? For who and for what would we need all these soldiers? You know, that's kind of where I'm at right now. Where are we going with them all? Well, 1% of the population of the United States is in the military. Uh, during World War II, it was 14 to 20%. We fielded a hundred divisions during World War II. And if you, you know, we've, we fought in two different theaters.

So we fought in Europe and we fought in the Pacific. And if China aligns with Iran and supports them, we could be doing the same thing because China could take this opportunity to take Taiwan. And then here we are again. Now, I got it wrong many times because when I got recalled to active duty, I said to myself, dang, they're calling up retirees. The draft is going to be next. I said to my old man, by fall, they're going to be drafting people. And it never did.

They never did. So what would it be? If it would be, you know. A world war. A world war. That's what it would be. So if this turns into World War III, see what we proved in this bombing mission is we have the ability to reach any place on the globe and conduct military operations without sending troops, without invading, without any massive D-Day type situation. making really protected targets on top of it, right? You know, this wasn't like an airport or something like that. This was, I'm sure it was well protected.

Yeah, and it would be interesting, you know, we'll learn this way after the fact. How many of our allies was in on this? How many of our allies knew that this operation was going down? They might have known something like, hey, he's going to bomb them sometime, which everybody suspected that because of the way they moved, but they didn't know when. And then when Trump did the subterfuge of, well, we'll wait a couple of weeks. Today, I think it was the day he said, well, wait a couple of weeks. It was that night. So yeah.

Yeah. That's so that's the more powers act has been talked about. Um, yeah, here's, here's the thing. It seems to only come up when there's a Republican president. Because when Obama was bombing everybody under the sun, no one talked about it. It was like, okay, he can bomb them. He can create... Yeah. We sent how many hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine, right?

Under Biden, nobody said anything. There was nobody going, war power, Zach. I don't know. Nobody said it. Yeah. My dog's playing the drums back there. So the question, you know, like I said, your question about the allies really is the one of the for the future, right? It really is how the future will be decided. If Russian China say, you know what, we've had enough with the West, and we're going to have ourselves

a real war and get these people off our back and start taking the territory that we want like Ukraine and Taiwan. Yeah, that's a very different future than if they just said, oh, we'll send them some weapons, maybe money or something. Well, I know North Korea has already sided with Iran, but, you know, hey, since we're talking nukes, should I divulge what we talked about in the back channel? I think it's a very interesting point to be made. So the hardest part of a nuclear weapon is the core itself, the nuclear, the fissionable material. So as weapons are decommissioned and deactivated, we save those cores to be refitted and put in different bombs. So whereas we have X number and Obama released this too, because I was at Air Force Global Strike Command when he told the world how many, how many missiles we had at the ready.

And, and Maria says to me, why does that upset you? I said, honey, I'm in the business and I didn't know that. You know, and now he just released it to the whole world. And where was it going with that? The cores and remaking the yeah, we saved those. Yeah, we we saved those because they can be refit refashioned. I mean, old weapons. And I mean, old weapons. And our oldest nuclear bomb was made in the 50s, and our newest one was made in the 90s. So yeah. And now Trump, in his first term, he said he was revitalizing our nuclear program. Now I don't know how far it went before Biden got in, but I'm sure Biden stopped it. Oh, definitely.

And yeah, if he didn't stop it, he messed it up with, you know, trans people. I don't know. Yeah. Two things the military is supposed to do is kill people and break things. That's it. That's their whole function. And when you think about that mission, trans does not come up. Trans is not the first thing. Hey, we need more trans people in our military. Yeah. Or diversity at all. You know what I mean? Nothing wrong with it. But it's just not a requirement. You know, it's just literally not a requirement. But if you want to come

in and break shit and blow people up, welcome. You know, it really has nothing to do with your background. Your. You're your, you know, when, when other, your sexual orientation, right? Right. When Clinton lifted the ban, well, he didn't lift the ban on gays. Okay. In the military. Okay. He, he just said, uh, don't ask.

Don't tell. Yeah. And, and everybody came to me and says, yeah, everybody came to me and said, are you, are you worried that there's gonna, I said, no, there's not any more or any less gay people going to come in then are already here because gay people don't, um, you know, go to a place that's primer primarily heterosexual males. I mean, it doesn't make any sense. So yeah, I think the same percentage of gay people is in a military that's always been not any higher. And you were talking about the draft earlier, and maybe this is part of Trump's

playing 4D chess. You know, the parade that happened a week ago. Yeah, big parade for sure. Gosh, that was a big recruiting tool. And I mean, it was massive, even even not for the army, you know, because if you want to get in, it doesn't matter what branch of service they all benefited from that. And maybe that's his way of boosting. How cool. Right? Yeah. And you boost recruitment before you go into military operations, so you, you know, don't have to draft. Well let's hope we're not going into military operations too much deeper and too much longer.

It would be nice to see sort of the end to the killing like Trump was talking about at the beginning of, well, at the end of the Biden term, really. It seems like Israel's going full bore. I mean, what is the stopping point for Israel, I wonder? What are they thinking? They're just going to take out every military in a certain proximity now. You know what I mean? Yeah.

It's interesting. I think, yeah, Israel has this history of, you know, beat him back, beat him back, beat him back and then stop. Yeah. And that's what they've been doing since their inception. what they've been doing since their inception. They invaded Lebanon. I mean, Israel was at war with one of their neighbors every so many years. I mean, if you Google the Arab-Israeli War, like 12 of them show up. The one we remember most is the 67 war, where Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, all attacked Israel at the same time, and Israel decimated them. Wow. decimated them. Israel took the whole Sinai from Egypt and then gave it all back.

And I should show you my hat. That is crazy. I don't have a hat here, but it's from the... It is one of those things you wonder... Multinectal force in a preserve. You wonder will it be this way forever? You know what I mean? And is that just what Israel will be until the inevitable, right? Which is it's nuked or overtaken or something like that. I mean, it's biblical, right? It's a wild, what a wild little piece of the world. That Middle East section, that little, that is a crazy little thing that's going on over there. Yeah. And they drag everybody in too. Yeah, yeah. They made peace with Egypt, you know, Jordan's a huge ally. Syria's got a new president. He seems to be wanting to play ball with the Middle East.

And you know, Iran could be a jewel, a gem in the Middle East. It used to be. It used to be. And they could be that again if they just get together and play nice with everybody. I mean, they have the resources, they have the people, they have the culture. I mean, their leadership is just selling the people out. Oh yeah. And when the Arab Spring happened and Obama didn't do anything and they had an uprising, there was a moment in time there

where if he showed support for the people, things may be different today. You know, they could have, they could have had a different government that didn't execute gay people and didn't cut people's hands off and stuff like that. That's really where the answers have to come from though. We know that the US can't really get it 100% right. You know what I mean? We can't show up, kill a bunch of people, put in the best new leader and leave and everything's fine. It has to come from the people.

It really does. I mean, it'd be ugly. We could help them, but... And it's just a different mindset over there. I don't think, you know. Yeah. The whole thing with Iraq, there's another example of our Intel community being spot on. Oh, he's developing weapons of mass destruction and we invade the country, you know, want regime change. And it was a mess. It was a mess. Yeah, want regime change. Yeah. And it was a mess. It was a mess. Yeah, it wasn't there again, asking the military to do something other than their mission. Yeah. Well, that's a good point, right?

That is a good point. Yeah. Why be in the, why be in the, uh, why add the, you know, the amendment of nation building to, you know, an operation that's basically the antithesis of building. Right? Yeah, we want to break, we don't want to build. We got other people who do that. But yeah, man, it's a different mentality, though, you know, I think, I think there's I don't know, because I've never been you would know better than me. But it's just from watching it of my whole life, really, I've been watching the Middle East my entire life.

It's one of those things where it seems like there are certain people who will rebel, like crazy Americans, and get people out of there that are no good. And then there are populations around the world that will literally sit like in Africa, you know what I mean? Just sit under tyranny for generation after generation after generation after generation. And I see a lot of that in the Middle East, you know, people who are, I'll just hang under the radar, you know, and my family will survive it and that kind of thing. What's up, that nub? How you doing? Jump into chat. Yeah. And it's the same under communism rule. I mean, most of the people in China don't like their government, but they just... Yeah. I mean, I think at the height of the Soviet Union, it was only like 15% were actual communists. And the other 85% were ruled by this, yeah, this small amount of people.

And I think that's also why they're trying to, they're trying to take this country in exactly the same way. The difference is, in Iraq and Afghanistan and all those other countries, they were never free. They had the opportunity to be free, but they had always had, you know, heavy government, dictators, that kind of stuff. That's a good point. We have been free since the beginning. So we know the difference.

I don't think we will stand for this much tyranny. But when it gets this big, no, we're not going to stand for it. Yeah, that's good. And what I mean by tyranny. That's something you never had, I guess. Right. Yep. Yeah.

That what do you mean by T or a trade act? You know, the Patriot act. Oh, okay. I mean, how long are we going to let that stand? Yeah, that's good. I mean, this was a thing that stand? Yeah, that's gotta go. I mean, this was a thing that was supposed to, that's gotta go. It was supposed to return from 9-11.

Now watch what happens with these sleeper cells. I can't point to a time, and maybe that's a good thing, I don't know, when the Patriot Act actually stopped something from happening. I wouldn't I'm not tethered in the way you are and I wasn't a part of it, you know, but I don't know. One thing's for sure. And I mentioned this on my show earlier today. We have definitely entered a time where all bullshit aside, we will find out what our enemies are capable of. We will find out what their alliances are,

we will find out what their capabilities are militarily, with sabotage in mind here in the United States, if there ever were to be Iranian sleeper cells that had a purpose, the time has come, right? So it will be an interesting summer to see what everybody's willing to do. Yeah, you know, whatever you do, it's going to come back tenfold. So that's the thing for Iran, for all of them. You know, you do something here, it comes back. It comes back like you can't even fathom. It'll be interesting to see. You want to talk some mitigating circumstances. How could you mitigate an attack?

Yeah, definitely. Always be armed, trained, ready to respond, fit. That's huge. Did I tell you I'm teaching a gym class this year? Oh, cool. 68 year old guy gonna teach you gym. You'll be in better shape than some of them kids, promise.

All right, go ahead. I'm gonna- I guarantee you that. I have a plan. I have a plan. I'm going to teach him some taekwondo. Oh, well, I was an army fitness instructor, a master fitness trainer. So I know ways to make them squeal like little girls. Yeah. Yeah.

You got to be able to run from danger. We go trimesters. So first trimester, I'm going to do calisthenics and aerobics. Okay. So I'm going to evaluate their fitness level, you know, maybe get them into teams so they can work out together as teams. And then at the end of that trimester, we're going to have a fitness derby where the teams. Oh, that'd be fun. Yeah. Yeah. They do as many pull-ups as

they can, you know, get one guy doing it, drop down next guy, you know, as many as you can. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. That would be really fun, man. Oh, that would be super fun. Yeah, and do it like you got two minutes and they pick the best guys, you know, and then sit-ups and push-ups and probably do a relay run. I like it. On an actual track where they actually have to pass a baton and all that kind of stuff.

So that's the first trimester. And then the second trimester, we're going to do all different kinds of sports. Yeah. Volleyball, basketball. Now they're in shape a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. They're going to learn the different positions and stuff like that.

Yeah, yeah, they're gonna learn the different positions and stuff like that. And then the third trimester, we're gonna do taekwondo. And I'm gonna partner with a local school. Oh, nice. A karate school to get everybody their first belt. So we're gonna practice for that. Oh, that're super cool. Yeah, then they're they're teachers going to come and evaluate the students and everybody that passes. And I'm going to open up the gym for them to if they have people that are going to take the

test, they can come to our gym on that day and take the test and get their belts. I like it. Maybe even, yeah, maybe even set up a tournament. That would be awesome. Because we have a gym now. Yeah, they can get pretty nasty though. I don't think that's my plan. Somebody knocking out somebody at a Taekwondo tournament at your school,

that probably wouldn't go over well with the parents. But it is cool though. Learning it is cool. Yeah, they're gonna have head gear on and they're gonna have all the safety gear. And you just get points. You know, two points for a kick, one point for a punch, no punch into the head. You know, it's not going to be MMA. It's going to be super safe. That's awesome man. It's critical, you know what I mean?

It's definitely one of those critical skills that you don't get taught. That's where we were on this. So maybe carry a fixed blade. You know up up your game a little if you carry one magazine, maybe carry two or three, you know Stuff like that little incremental things And maybe you don't normally carry a radio Okay to be able to talk to home or mesh-tastic.

Maybe this is the time to break that out, communications up and running before the attack and stuff like that. Yeah and probably a good thing also would be to know where to go to get information rapidly and have like news that's happening as it's happening you know because it's very easy for you to be driving around listening to a podcast and some serious stuff be happening just on the other side of town and you have no idea it's you know, until your phone buzzes or until something, somebody lets you know. So good to have that Intel, your own little personal Intel network.

I, you know, I'm kind of on the fence about the alerts companies. Sometimes those alert companies, I feel like I get the news from the news before I get the alerts. You know, so I don't know. Yeah, sometimes they're early. Sometimes they're not. I don't know. I also think they'll drive you crazy if you have them on your phone all day, every day. Yeah, I got that next door. And it was it was a lost cat., this, you know, it was all this stuff coming in. And I'm like, no, no, I'm, I'm off that.

That's not what I want to know. It's changed a lot. Hey, this is a, this is a prepper tip. If you have old phones, okay. You might want to put an old phone in your kid's backpack or in your car charged, ready to go because even an old phone can call 911 if it does not have to. Yeah. So if you want to prep or tip, if you want to step up your game, that's a way to distribute

the ability to call for help at no extra charge. Yeah, I like that. I like that. It's a great tip. Yeah, it's a time for that, you know, and probably another huge thing to think about the reality of being in an attack like that is, you know, how the hell are you going to get out of there as quickly as possible because most likely that's the situation you're going to be in. You know, if there are, if you run into a trained pack of Iranians that have AK-47s and have trained for just the task ahead and there's, you know, six of them, eight of them, whatever, do not engage. Yeah. You know what I mean?

No, I'm like, I'm going to pull the old block out and go to work. Get the hell out of there. You remember the the rules that when I was doing the movement class, the three rules, one of one of them is everybody wants your stuff. Rule number two, everybody has more firepower than you. That's right. And yeah. So that was a fun class, man. Thanks. Everything that you do has to be from the defense mode. Right. Okay. Everybody thinks the Rambo up until you get punched in the face. So everything has to be, look at it this way. In the military, we would look around in these

classes, you know, NBC classes, and you could tell the guys that weren't gonna make it. They just weren't fit, they didn't shoot well, they weren't very good at combat skills. And those guys were considered acceptable casualties. Look around your family or your group and say who in my group is an acceptable casualty. And if you take it from that standpoint, you won't do something stupid.

Yeah, I think I'm trying to you know confront an armed attacker. Yeah. Yeah. You got it. Everything has to be defensive in nature. Yep. I will only shoot if I'm getting shot at. Other than that, I'm going to run like I've never run before and get out of the area. Yep.

Dave, I think that's a great place to end it, man. Because that is the tip. Me too. That is the tip, for sure. That changed my life, right? When you mentioned that in the first class I ever saw, yeah, that definitely changed my life. Who are the acceptable casualties sitting in your group or in your family?

Right. That changed the perspective all the way. There's no more tough guy stuff after that. Well, I appreciate you, man. Thanks for joining me through all of this. The blood, the mud and the beer. Yep. Anytime I can help, let me know.

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I've been brought to. It's about seven o'clock in the morning, I think. Yeah. Nonstop. I'm surprised the warden hasn't come and got me already. Oh, you're in for it, dude. I know. You're in for it. You're gonna hear the taser go off soon. Ch-ch-ch-ch-ch. Ha ha ha ha. Always a pleasure, my man. I'll talk to you soon. Thanks.

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