The Prepper Broadcasting Network - WOMENS WEDNESDAY: Security & Defense w. Sam B and Jordan The Phoenix

Episode Date: May 6, 2026

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Well, hello, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. It's so great to have you on another a family affair show. And tonight, we will be talking defense and security. So we have, one of my favorite guests is Sam B. And she is actually part of backdoor survival. Sam, thank you so much for joining me tonight. I know this is something that has been on so many people's minds

and something we are seeing a lot more of. Thank you so much if you want to say hi. And for those who don't know who you are, just give a little bit about yourself. Hi. Well, Sam, I live in Backdoor Survival. I live in Western North Carolina. And as well, I've just been prepping for my entire life. And I've just been going to talk a little bit tonight about defense.

It's on a lot of people's minds with what's going on. There's a lot of uncertainty right now. So there's one of the big things that we've got to consider. at the moment is, you know, the legality to defending yourself. Right now, laws are in place and enforced. It varies a lot by state. For example, like in North Carolina,

I can stand my ground. There's castle doctrine laws you can defend your house. If someone comes on my property, drives me with a gun, the laws on my side, places like California, even if someone comes through your door, and you can't really retaliate

without kidding, you're legally obligated to back down. It can just, you have to check. It's good to know your law, so you know what you're getting into before you make decisions. Absolutely. Absolutely. Because like here, the law here is very different from the law in Tennessee or Arkansas. So in Mississippi, we have what we call an old gunslinger law, which is we have a right if we feel threatened to protect ourselves, our family, or even our own property, even if we're out in the middle of town. Now, people aren't going around and just shooting each other, but it's the whole purpose of being able to defend and protect yourself and your family.

what's yours? Yeah, yeah. I mean, a lot of people, their first defense, they go to is firearms. But even with firearms, I mean, you don't want to use those unless you have to. You need to really think about, like, threat detections, really, what you need to be thinking about if you have firearms. Alerting yourself to, what alerts can you set up to see threats before they actually get to you? And there's a lot of ways to do that. Part of it depends on your own situation.

Do you live on a property? Do you live in an apartment? So we can talk about some of those methods. Yeah, absolutely. I'm all for it. You know, for me, I live a little more out in the country, but I'm still close enough to a freeway. I have to be aware of the traffic flow and what's going past my house.

Yeah, yeah. You know, a lot of people use cameras. They're really affordable now. I know some people don't like the nest cameras. They're kind of expensive, but you can get a camera for $45 bucks on Amazon that'll let you yell at people even that approach your house. They'll send an alert to your cell phone and you can like yell at them remotely if you want to or call the police or things like that. You have to, you know, it takes a little practice. You have to have an app on your cell phone, that kind of thing.

Other things you can do would be like driveway alarms. Those are tricky because some of them don't work as well on long distances. You have to like really watch which ones you get. And if you're like on a mountain like I am, there's line of sight with the wireless ones matters. It just depends. You have to be careful what you get depending on your topography and how, Absolutely, because there's some if the cloud covers the sky, it will trigger the alarm. I've had one do that before, and I've had one where the wind blew it set it off.

I didn't understand how the wind blew when it was an IR reader. Yeah, yeah. There's also, like, noise alarms, like motion detectors that they'll just, like, start yelling. And when they're trips, you can get those on Amazon, too. you can set up basic things too like Selko actually when I took his course online this is an old trick of his there

there's the key chain alarms that women use like when they're jogging and stuff and if you pull the string it'll set off 140 decibel alarm you can set those up with like fishing line or whatever you've got you want something that's not

real visible of course and it'll just make a huge amount of noise But you could set those up at your door even if you have an apartment or something because seconds count. But those are completely legal no matter how you slice it because it's just a noise alarm. And they're really cheap. You get like $6.00 for $20. See, I may have to look at that. That's actually kind of smart because if it's in the middle of the night, what's going to wake you up is a loud noise.

And it's going to scare whoever's trying to walk up on you. So a big reason, sorry, I didn't want to cut you off. A big reason that we're talking about this subject is, you know, a lot of people are in a situation where they're having to bug in and stay in. A lot of people are all of a sudden hitting the stores and are wiping them out of ammunition and guns and magazines for ARs. I saw someone today on Facebook post that they were looking for 556 and 308 and a few other rounds. And it's, if you have to ask, then you've missed out because, but you're. You've got to look at the fact that some of these states are allowing petty crimes or small crimes to be ignored, petty theft. I mean, they're already having that issue in San Francisco.

So you've got to look at means of being able to protect yourself or be aware of what's going on around you. Yeah, there's a lot you can do to reinforce your door. Like I have an article I did on that. One of the simplest things you can do is you can take the screws out of like your door hard. and replace them with longer screws because the ones that a lot of hardware comes with are really short. And you can just go and spend two or three dollars on screws. And even if you rent, your landlord's probably not going to notice if you take the screws out and put better ones in. And that right there, a chain lock.

Those people say, oh, those chain locks, they look kind of, you know, wimpy, right? I've seen the misbusters where they're trying to bash doors in. And one of the last things that failed was the chain lock. Oh, wow. Yeah, it was actually really surprising because I remember having those in my dorm room in college. And I was like, oh, that's just kind of for show, you know, to make people feel better. But none are pretty effective. You can also get, there's just all kinds of door blockers and door bars that are available on Amazon.

And your windows are a main point of entry. window film. You can buy that on. That's another thing. You can just get online and the thicker the better. But people put it on their windows sometimes for hurricanes and stuff

because instead of your glass shattering and sending a bunch of shards everywhere, it will just, it will hold and it'll kind of fall out in one piece rather than like just shattering into shards. And it buys you some time. Like someone can't just like bust through the glasses fast.

Wow, that's awesome. See, I didn't even think about window film. It's different things. Now, you'll pay more the thicker you get, but the thicker, the more protection. And it's a good thing to have even if you, you know, if you live in a hurricane zone too. I wonder how it would hold up to our tornadoes. I'm in tornado. Yeah.

Windows are just a, it's a big point of concern for a lot of people. though. Right. No, I understand. Well, what would you say for someone who maybe has a hard time with their locks? A lot of these windows now where you can unlock them, lift them up, and then they open outward. I know if you're not careful, they don't exactly latch all the way. Is there something people can do for their windows or around their windows to set up a little more defense?

Well, you can actually get alarms for, like, if your window gets open when you don't want them to. you know, like, there are just, like, just noise alarms that will go off. For a real, like, you know, you think there's civil unrest and stuff, you can stretch chicken wire over a window, like, really tight. I never thought about that. I've definitely got plenty of chicken wire. Yeah, that'll stop them all of the top cocktails if it's done right. Huh?

Yeah. That's good to know. That's another one of those from cell go. Yeah. The tighter you stretch it, the better. But Windows, I mean, that's the main things for Windows, I would say. Right. Right.

So, you know, a lot of individuals, well, you, I mean, sorry, hold on, I'm fighting with my puppy. She's, he's trying to eat my cord. So I apologize, y'all. I lost my turn. I thought I was going to ask you something, Sam. I'm so sorry. Well, what is your opinion with everything that's going on as far as the fact that you see a lot of people are now having to shelter in place? Certain states like San Francisco and California is not, you know, not punishing certain crimes unless it's in effect.

And then they're still not charging people. I saw videos where people were stealing from a Walgreens wiping the shelves out and nobody could do anything about it. They got to walk out with their bags and their baskets full. you just got to take care of yourself, you know, if they're not going to enforce the law. I mean, I think that's more of a, you're going to see that more in cities and such, but there's also people are going to be at home and they're going to be bored and there's going to be kids out of school and stuff. And, you know, there might be some things happen, but I, it just depends on how long it goes on and just how unhappy people are. and your area too.

I mean, the city, I wouldn't want to be in a city, that's for sure. Yeah, that's, it's hard to say. As long as people are fed and can stay at home, you know, staying at home might not be so bad. There is a lot of food in this country. I know that there's bare shelves in places, but that's, they're working on the supply chain and getting things there. there's really we produce a lot of food it's not that it's not there it's just getting it there it sells out as fast as they get it there and they've actually lifted a lot of the restrictions on truckers where like the electronic logs system they used to not they could only be on the road or work so many hours and right there was some other rules had the electronic shutoffs too where you could only be on the road for eight hours and then you had to have an eight hours off or Yeah, and there was some other restrictions that made it pretty difficult on them. And I'm kind of glad they relaxed that, but at the same time, those guys can only work,

and ladies can only work so hard. I mean, staying on the road a long time, I mean, they can only do so much. And there is less infrastructure to support them because everything's shut down on their trip. So that's even more difficult on them. But you'll probably see some easing up at the grocery stores on some things. And some of that you see is people wanting a particular product or a particular brand. Like I've heard people say, I can't find my brand of this. Well, is there another brand of the same thing on the shelf?

Have you looked for that? Because I don't know what they have. I mean, it seems like sometimes I'm not saying that there's not like complete shortages. I know someone who said, well, I can only have this brand. I said, well, they don't have it. Well, then I'll go without. Like, if you really want that item, you'll learn to take what you can get. Yeah.

And there is a time, too, where there was a lot of stuff sold out at storage, but there was plenty of it online. And I know that it's hard for some people to order online. They're afraid of their patches getting sold. There's all that. but it's like it's still out there. It's just a little bit harder, and that's unfortunate, but we're not, we're not, I don't think people are going to starve quite yet. Right.

So what would you suggest for those individuals who do not have guns or enough guns in ammo to be able to defend themselves? You know, like you said, usually our go-to is firearms. I know I'm now with everything that's going on, I'm a full-time carrier, only because I have seen some people act really stupid over some really just stupid stuff that I don't want to risk getting hurt because of somebody else's ignorance. Well, you can turn a weapon, a lot of things into weapons, a baseball bat. Exactly.

I mean, you can also stick some nails in it if you really want. Make your own, Lucy. Yeah, yeah. Heck, even a frying panel work if you get it's all you got. I'm a big fan of just carrying a couple of knives on me for a backup. Now, those, I will say that knives, the laws will vary some places. You know, you can't legally carry this or that. Right.

The only time I've never heard anybody getting caught. Yeah, and in other, some states, it's, yeah, two or three-inch blade. and usually nobody gets caught for that unless they're getting caught for something else that's much worse. So, I mean, I have to say. But even like a tire iron, like if you're traveling in your vehicle, something, you know, they can't really say much about you having tools in your vehicle. So, you know, think about what's in the toolbox that could be used as a bludgeoner? There's weapons everywhere if you just look around.

Right. Volcano said in the chat room, according to modern combat and survival, the new N-knife is a parent knife, as they are so common that no one really questions it. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Just common things, I mean. Yeah, and she says, and they're easily replaced. You know, I used to doubt tactical pins a little bit. I thought, I was like, how could something break glass? How could something be that tough?

And I got this little car. It's like a USB drive. It'll charge your phone and you put it into the 12-volt in your car. But it's also got a glass breaker. And I did a review for that. And you can actually work. You can bust through your windshield. And that kind of leads me to believe that, well, maybe those tactical pins with the carbide tips would actually be pretty useful.

Again, you know, that's going to take some strength. But it's better than I expected. Right. Well, I've done a monkey ball fist where you use a ball bearing in it, stainless steel barring. Now, not saying it's legal in some areas, but being what it is, but my husband has made a hole in the wall, testing it out, not sure in how strong it was. So if that tells you anything, if it's enough to crack a hole in a hard wall, it's enough to crack a hole in someone's head. Yeah, I mean, a walk-and-stick, a cane. So there's some canes that are actually, they're pretty formidable looking.

There's one of the United Coltery Commando Survival Hammer. That thing is crazy-looking. And it's just a walking stick, but it's also like a hammer. Pepper spray works, but I have to say, like, with pepper spray, you've got to be careful. That can be turned on you. or if the wind blows. Right. When I was up in Alaska.

I feel like if most people get pepper sprayed, they need to not say that they need to be sprayed by it, but they need to understand what it feels like because there's usually some sort of flyback on it. You don't get exposed to it as well. Mm-hmm. And you might make somebody just angry. Right.

Sometimes that would happen with bears up in Alaska. People would carry bear spray, and they would just, wind up in raising the bear or pepper spraying themselves and then they've got a bear to deal with. Right. So Ozarks prepared to ask, what about a T-shirt that says, I'm infected? I don't think that'll work as well. You know, nowadays, I might be a little bit cautious about, you know, because I kind of thought

about, oh, you can put up coronavirus, you know, quarantine signs around your place. But I was sitting there thinking, like, if it gets bad, you know, maybe that would be all right. but at the same time, if you let people think that you're infected, if there's any, like, blowback towards people that are. I mean, in Kenya, somebody got, like, stoned to death because they were infected. So you have to wonder, you know, like, would somebody, we're not there yet here, but would people just, is it possible for people to reach a point where they're just angry at people that are infected and they retaliate?

Because look what happened with the cruise ships. Places wouldn't let them dock, which I can't stand. I blame them, actually. But, you know, people were starting to be like, you know, they wouldn't want them to dock in the United States, even though they were American citizens. It's like, wow, that's really making a statement. Well, you know, you didn't want it to spread. So Volcanus says in chat, I once saw a black belt master take out the black belt student using a standard cane with a big loop at the top of the candy cane shape. It was very impressive.

He was seated and barely moved And Volcanata is not prepared Get the caution tape Yeah Yeah And if things get really bad I mean you might People sleep in shifts and stuff

I mean that's what they do in most That's an old tactic You know Have somebody on guard That's what we did on booed We always had two up While everybody else slept And we took shifts

And you rotated out And you reported at the end of the shift, if any activity, if any at all, any changes? Yeah, yeah. And just working in teams and stuff and just, you know, kind of washing each other's back. If you have a really big enough property to have like multiple layers of fences and gates, you know, fences are, you know, people can get over fences. Barbed wire really helps. You can still get barbed wire and stretch it wherever you want.

We have a lot of Osage orange trees. So if you can get past those, then good luck to you because I know we've about tore our sides open trying to get past those trees before on our own property. Yeah. Yeah. And putting up just if you have a long driveway or something, putting trees and debris and just piling stuff up, anything to slow people down. there's also I mean if you have a long driveway or just lots of backroads

there's an old trick it's a tiger trap like what if a vehicle a vehicle has a certain weight so like a small utility vehicle might weigh 1,500 pounds or something whereas a big truck is thousands of pounds so if a spot in the road can take

the regular weight of the smaller vehicle then that's great, but if something bigger comes across, they'll drop in a pit. Or in a hole or something that'll damage their tire. And that's real, like, hardcore stuff. That's for, we're not there yet, you know. No, we're not mad at next yet. No, not quite. But people are going to get bored, and I don't, you know,

quarantining people in the United States is a lot different than quarantining and other places. People are better armed and they're not used to being told what to do as much. Right. And then you've got people who get bored and you get hoodlums and troublemakers who think they can take a bad situation and make it a great opportunity for themselves. Yeah. Yeah.

And this is a different thing. People are afraid of getting sick. And it's, I. But there's a little. a lot of people that still think it's a hoax. And I'm just like, how on earth can you think it's all a hoax? Because if it's a hoax, then these people are better than any Hollywood produced or ever dream the being. You can't get countries to work together on basic things.

How are you going to get this many countries to work on this? Right. Well, you know, I ran into the same situation where someone directly think that the Democrats created this. And I'm like, this is the one time in life. The Democrats aren't fighting with the Republicans. They're trying to figure out what to do so we can slow this down. So it's like, I just, I don't know. It does dumbfound me in the fact that you hear that we don't need masks,

but yet now they're producing masks for all of our medical staff and all these people. If you look, all across the world, all everybody uses masks. I just felt like America didn't want to admit that we had a mask shortage, not that the mask were ineffective. So I think masks do help. I think it minimizes how bad the exposure is going to be. I'm not going to say it's going to 100% prevent it. But there's nothing wrong with taking that extra precaution.

Yeah, there was an interesting bit on Chris Martin's channel, at Peak Prosperity. Yes, I watch it. He talked about, there was a doctor that explained, like, there was a big difference between, okay, well, maybe a mask won't get rid of everything. or protect you from everything or you might touch your face or you might but there's a big difference between and one reason the medical people are so at risk is if they get exposed they've got somebody that's probably infected coughing in their face or something so they're starting off with a huge virus load

whereas if you or i go touch a doorknob where the virus is on and still active and then we touch our face we've got a little bit of the virus and we have days for our immune system to kind of help of that. So we get sick, but we won't get as sick as starting out with a huge viral load. So it all helps, you know, minimizing how much of the virus load you start out with. Well, think about the fact, prime example for a little bit of, and I say self-defense, I mean, in health self-defense on this one, is I keep gloves in my car. I do wear a face mask when I go into public. I have had some positive reactions and quite

and I've had one very negative reaction which I probably found a little more too entertaining than I should have because you know people react differently but I wear gloves when I go to the gas pump. I make sure I take out my card I'm holding it and anything that's been in my hand with those gloves

will be disinfected too so I will not put a card that I've swiped in something that everybody else has done too because you know, most people don't clean their cards or their wallets. So you're asking for bacteria or viruses or germs just to sit there. So I had a gentleman watch me leave the store, and I got one glove off just so I could grab the door, then got my alcohol in a spray bottle and sprayed and disinfect it and clean stuff, and watched me as I did it.

And it was more of a puzzlement look than anything. But it's like if I practice that now and it gets any worse, well then, you know, I'm doing the right thing. Even if it doesn't get any worse, at least I can still prevent from getting sick. Gas pumps. People don't think about the fact of how nasty gas pumps are. Wear gloves. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, and they went back and forth in how long this thing was on surfaces. I've heard it be nine days and now it's four days, now it's five days. I have not heard a definitive date yet of how long it actually lives. I just err on the side of caution and just say like I'm just going to say 10 days and just go on the day more than what the extreme outlook is. Right. And that's how I would do it. Just to be saved. Yeah. Because I, it, you know, that's under like ideal circumstances. There's been some studies where like if the humidity is just right, if the temperature is just right, it'll live for like nine days on some surface. is and that's really like ideal conditions but it's like okay well i'm just going to go with that and just can think that it's got ideal conditions all the time just to be safe right it's better safe than sorry well you know when i said i wore the mask into the store i had a woman who worked at a

walmart out here who when i walked in i had two people stop me one before and one after asked me where I got my mask from. They want one just like it because mine is an RZ mask in which I could change out the filters on. So I'm not worried about it. I mean, I could still spray down or clean my mask, the outer cloth, and then let it air out and dry out, or however you want to disinfect. But I had one woman, you heard her say, oh, well, I don't know if I should say it in the same way she said it, but basically the essence was, hell no, and that I had the corona. And so she was positive I had the corona is what she said to a couple of, sorry, my puppy is getting a little too rambunctious, he just bit me,

to where she was saying it to some customers that were in the store watching me, that she yelled for the other lady, you got to come help her. She goes, I ain't touching her. So I have to laugh because she was convinced I had, I had the corona, and I don't. But I wasn't the only person in town with the mask on. I was probably the only person with the rain, slicker, gloves, and the face mask on. Yeah, I think seeing people in personal protective gear kind of,

it shocks people out of their little bubble. They have to kind of face some reality that they don't really want to accept. And you see a lot of that. That's why there's so much anger. People just can't accept this reality. And it's not good. I mean, it's tough. You know, you wake up every day and it's like, oh, no, what's next?

But it's better to kind of accept it than to just say there's nothing happening. Right. I don't understand putting your, you know, that was like, if you're not a part of the EOC for COVID-19 with Prepper Broadcasting Network, You need to reach out to us because there's a lot of information going on here. I'm not going to say who the individual was, but it's like a couple people who are in the EOC are dealing with the fact that they are still working and they're trying their best, but there's other individuals who have kept their head in the sand so long that they can't cope. They almost can't cope with what's going on around them, the fact that now they're not allowed,

certain states or certain towns are not even allowing you to leave your home. So it goes to show this, when we're saying to be ready, you've got to be ready for all the outcomes, because there's a good chance you're going to be fected in a way you weren't expecting. Yeah, and people are having to learn to get along a little bit, and families leave very, or they leave very separate lives, even though they're in the same house, and especially those that have like really big houses and such. And they're going to have to learn to kind of be around each other more than they, they're used to and that that can cause a lot of problems.

You're telling me, I have a husband who was so bored today because he hasn't been able to do anything for a couple weeks because of the rain. Like, how am I supposed to keep this man in the house if we have a quarantine when he gets bored so easy and the weather's bad? Hmm. So that's something I have to keep in mind too. So it's one of those that's like, huh, how do you, how do you keep those who, don't do well being stuck in places entertained.

You could quilt with him. Oh, yeah. They used to do that all the time. Like, they did. People used to think they'd sell and all that stuff with real. I think he might end up getting more hurt than actually cheating. You're talking about a grown man who is ADD. Yeah, I'm not putting a needle in his hand.

They're going to be fed around and sewer. Let's see. I mean, that's tough. You know, having something to do is important and staying busy, and a lot of people are facing that. And it's a hard one to approach to everybody's situations different. Right. Well, you know, it's kind of like Jen says here, when we were talking about how people are keeping their heads in the sand. They said, that's how every other person around here thinks.

No one thinks it's going to hit our tiny towns. And Ozark says, overall, we are very sheltered. They are used to reading about this in other countries. And they are both dead on. I mean, our town has several cases, and I live in a small county. But this is not something that's limited to a large population. This is going to be anybody and everybody and their brother. I actually wanted to make a comment real quick on the cases.

So our health department, our Mississippi Department of Health, has been monitoring it. and we were looking at the age range. And I heard where a lot of people said, oh, it's an only certain age range. Well, we have three children under 18, I think a couple are toddlers. Then 18 to 29, we have 24 cases. 30 to 39 is 13. 40 to 49 is 27. Then you have 18 cases, 50 to 59.

For me, there's no real set factor with age like we're hearing. I mean, I see the little ones aren't getting it unless they're immunodeficiency, but 18 to 29 is still getting it just as easily as the 60 to 69-year-olds. Yeah, there's definitely a lot. In Italy, there's a lot of young people getting it. And even if they get over it, there's sometimes like really massive lung damage, which is quite frightening. And, you know, people say, oh, there's all these underlying factors

that these people have pre-existing conditions and they're old and all that. Well, what do you think it's going in the U.S. is like? We have an older population. A lot of people are overweight. They have diabetes. They have heart problems. They have all these risk factors that they're saying, well, this country has a high death rate because of this. It's like, well, we have a lot of the same risk factors.

That's not real, you know. Right. Oh, absolutely. Sorry, I got distracted. Matt said give him a project. to fix something, plant something. Well, right when I was putting, I don't trust him in the garden. Volcanoes said you can still go outside in the backyard.

Give him to do yard work away from your garden. Yeah. Yeah. But no. Or he can play with the kids while you do that stuff. There you go. Yeah, I don't mind doing that. Yeah.

He's better with pretend play. Most men are. Even psychology shows men are better with pretend play than women. Yeah, and speaking of men, that's another thing that's disturbing about this virus and just horrifies me is that in Italy in places, like, men are dying in a much higher rate than women. And it's because of your ACE inhibitors. The ACE2 inhibitors is what's replicating it, and men replicate it twice as fast as a woman does. Yeah, there is some evidence about the ACE2, and there's, There's been some charts and stuff.

It's kind of debated because people try to pretend everybody's the same. But there's, yeah, there's something to that. And it's really frightening because there's, you know, yeah, that's just tough. I don't know. It's really bothered me a lot. I'm like, oh, my goodness. Like, so. So Matt says in chat, he goes, the immortality rate that is higher, not the infection rate.

viral pneumonia is serious no matter how old. My question for you, though, is being, are you and your husband both taking the extra precautions to protect yourselves as well as defend and protect what you have? You don't have to tell us what, I'm just saying. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We've been, we haven't been going anywhere for a long time. We went out one time for gas since January 31st, and we did it at 4 a.m. We haven't been anywhere. And we've, you know, just, we're kind of out in the country and we've got lots of stenses and stuff.

And lots of barking dogs. If everybody has a dog, like, that's really helpful. Sometimes people tell me they're like, I have, they'll show me their dog. They'll send a picture. They'll be this little dog. They're like, it's not really a prepper dog. It'll be like a Pomeranian or so. Like, it doesn't matter.

A dog will bark. A dog will make noise. Right. Yeah. You can have a chihuahua, and that chihuahua will save your life. I like to use the example of. of, you know, Pickles, the Chihuahua in Black Mountain, North Carolina, ran out and harassed a bear and saved an entire family

because this bear had, like, walked into their house, they're sliding that's door. And the little dog, like, died, but, you know, Chihuahua, saved the family. Dogs are amazing, and even the smallest one will make noise. Oh, yeah, I can get away with it, you know, if it was, if a big dog had this, attitude of a Chihuahua you'd have to have it put down or something. I think you're actually 100% on that one. I've had both of them and it's, yeah, their attitude is. But, yeah, dogs really are helpful.

But yeah, we've got some defenses in place and stuff, but we live, like, kind of far back. I mean, you have to really, like, you have to have, like, a four-wheel drive or something on top of it to get up here anyway. So it's really actually kind of hard to find. No, see, that works out for you, but unfortunately for me, I'm off the freeway. So people who know where that can look and see my house from the freeway. So I'm kind of a bit of a disadvantage. Yeah, and people sometimes are like, oh, everybody should try to hide where they're at or on the undisclosed location.

It's like, come on. People really want to find you. You can look up your address online or do a background check for a little to nothing. And your tax records are all out there. It's very hard to just, like, be completely anonymous. Right. Yeah. I mean, it's, you can't.

I guess if you have everything in a shell company and there's some things, but people can track you down if they really want to. It's pretty impossible to completely hide. No, I understand. So Ozark says in here, Chihuacuanian, Chihuahuas are as loud as flashbangs. Yeah, I would agree with that. Like, yeah, absolutely.

I've had a chihuahua skin me out of my skin before. So Volcano's, well, Jen said her daughter had had pneumonia when she was eight or nine several years ago. She was, it was absolutely terrible. And, Jen, you're right. And it takes months and months to get over that, especially when it affects your respiratory system. So Volcano said, my dad used to have two dogs while out in Africa, a German shepherd and a cocker spaniel. The German shepherds were heavier sleepers, so what happens is if someone came, the Cocker Spaniel would start up and that would get the shepherd going. That's actually awesome.

I never thought about the fact that a German shepherd could be a heavy slaper. Yeah, yeah. Our pherities are kind of lazy sometimes, but they kind of sleep with one eye open. They're pretty good dogs, though. So our mutt is actually the one that he has a bay that we call it the Brownhound Bay. He has a, he sounds like, he's part squirrel dog and half lab. So he's like confused. He like points at squirrels.

So he's like, he tries to treat like the squirrels like they're birds. And, oh, yeah, he's a mess. But he's a good dog. No, I understand. That's like our pit bull. She's a very good dog. she's not the heaviest sleeper. She hears a noise.

She's going to be up. And she's going to be watching before she barks. So she's... Yeah. She's the one who... I watch her body reactions before I start listening for a bark. Because if she's barking, she's taken off towards it. Yeah.

Yeah. My dog, Sadie, has decided, like, we take her camp at sometimes. And a couple of teenagers really liked her that came to this swimming hole. And she thinks she can just set on campers now and get a sandwich. which goes to set on. So, I'm like she's always going to take this now. She's going to get sandwiches. Right.

All right. I am going to real quick go on a commercial break. My puppy has climbed across my laptop about three or four times. I think he's ready to go to the restroom. So I am going to put on a long commercial and try to make it quick. Y'all bear with me for a moment. And we'll be right back. I do apologize and thank you.

So bear with me. We will have a quick commercial break and I will be right. All right. So I was able to pawn them off onto my kid real quick. I saw Matt in the chat room that we need to another puppy. Maybe when all this is over, we want to get a German Shepherd for our next dog because it would be a good addition. I think the baby doll sheep would be terrified though because they don't really require any hurting up. They just want to kind of hang out anyway.

Well, don't you have a couple of great Pyrenees? Yeah, yeah, we do. And they're good, hurt dogs. Well, they're more of a guard dog. They don't really, like, round them up. They just hang out with them. Right, I didn't really, like, round them up, sorry. Yeah.

Ruby's getting old, though. She's going to be 10 this month, and she's starting to slow down. So at some point, we'll need another dog. So we'll probably get a German Shepherd if we can. No, I understand. Sorry about that. So what would you do? We have, we've talked about firearms briefly.

We've talked about sound alarms. That's always a good one. I know Dave Jones had mentioned putting up caution tape and signs, which earlier, I think it was Volcano. Jen had said that right now until everybody's infected, you're going to end up with people being a little more apathetic. Mm-hmm. Trying to go back in the chat and look. I know we've talked about being able to have your own weapons. You can use anything that's readily available to you.

A lot of us women were taught walking out to your vehicle. Keep your keys in between your fingers. You can always take an eye out with that. Now, we're not saying to go intentionally harm someone, but we want you to be able to have the means to defend yourself, even if you don't have a firearm. There are a lot of things you can do to just protect yourself and your family. what would you suggest for children as far as a defense method?

I know with my children, my son carries a knife, which he's allowed to. He's very responsible with it. And my girls, we've talked about the kicking, scratch, and biting, you know, whatever means necessary. But is there something, especially what things are now, you know what, I'll be honest, I try not to even take the children out, if at all possible. Yeah. Yeah, all the things you mentioned are good things. You know, some people, you know,

give their kids a little instruction in some of the martial arts and things and getting out of hold and stuff like that. When I was little, my dad taught me a few things that, like, they taught him in Vietnam. He got me, like, we grabbed hold of Vietnam until we had to get out of stuff, things like that. Just being situationally aware, too. That's really important.

there's going to be people that are not so nice. I mean, I heard someone on Facebook, I don't know if this is true. But they explained this. They told this story that they were at a dollar general. And their little girl found a thing of Lysol. And she took it. And then this lady was like, what have you got their little girl? And she tried to take it physically from this little girl.

And the mother saw it. And it's just like, wow, you know. People have got to that point. Right. That even a child is going to get in the way for it. Yeah, and I think that, you know, it's probably time to keep a, even in smaller towns where you think people won't act that way, just keep a closer eye on them.

If you are at a store, I would try to just stay out of stores as possible. But, you know, people are going to be acting weird about certain products and stuff. And I just couldn't believe that, that somebody would just try to physically take a can of ice, from a little kid like that. It would be surprising, but I have seen worst instances where Black Friday, I've seen people take toys

straight out of people's hands, or children's hands as well. Wow. So, I mean, people really are insensitive and don't care if it, as long as it means, they can get it for themselves. Yeah. Yeah. Matt's in the chat. I saw that. I saw that. So he said a super-sulker

fuel of gas. Volcanus gas might destroy the super-soker. I'm not sure how robust the plastic is. Matt, of course, says, in time, it will, short-term. Volcanus's point. Yeah. Yeah.

It's a short-term weapon. Yeah, a gunful of mass. Volcano says, light the match afterwards. Through Mythbusters, prove you need a bit more than a match. Yeah. Yeah. And just like with Molotovs, you don't want bottles that are extremely thick because they're harder to, you know, they're harder to bust.

Right. Not that we know anything about this. This is just, you know, speculation. Yeah. Like, keep wine bottles like fetter or something. Right, right. But we're not there yet. And I hope we never get there.

I don't think we will. I hope not. I do think we will get to a point where people might start seeing. you're going to have a lot of people who are going to return back to a state of just pure ignorance. And when I say ignorance, folks, I don't mean stupid. The definition of ignorance is not to know. But I think you're going to see a lot of people maybe change their perspective and start doing stuff. Others, I don't believe they'll change at all.

The cities are going to be just terrible, though. Like, what's going on in New York and in Baltimore with the National Guard? I mean, that's, that, I don't think some people are going to respond too well that there being a military presence there, especially if they have to stay in their house. The cities that are already having an extremely high murder or violence rate, that's going to get weird real fast. People don't handle stressful situations well. Yeah, and they don't want to stay in their house. So, I mean, my sister is in Washington State, and she says that they're just going to have to lock it down more, and the governor's threatening to do it because people will not stay at home.

You have people in Seattle and places. They're still going to the park. They're having rollerblades time in the parks. They're having bonfires together. They're in line at hot dog stands. And it's just, even though they have an extremely high rate of coronavirus, Right. It's,

that I think they gave people a chance in this country to, like, stay at home. And they can't just lock everything down all at once. That would just cause massive panic. But they're doing it gradually. I mean, right now, I think the latest count was 70 million people are under lockdown, or maybe it was 86 million up to. Right. Because they lock down in New Jersey.

That's a big portion of the country. already. It really is. Yeah. Yeah, they're doing it gradually. And I think that I don't really think that it was necessarily something that anybody wanted. I mean, I don't think anybody wanted to do it,

but China had some real strict measures they took. And some of those wouldn't work here. You can't, it's America. You can't go welding people into their houses or doing things like that. But you can, it's huge. lockdown orders and things. I think some of the lockdown orders they're doing is what?

It's like a $250 fine or some sort of fine or penalty if you leave your house for non-essential trip movement. I'm not sure what the fines are. I know. I think we are going to get to a point where we see more than what we have been. Yeah. And in Italy, they, in Italy, even weeks ago, If you broke your quarantine and you went out and then you were found to have infected somebody, they would try, you get charged with murder.

Wow. Kind of like when someone has HIV and infect someone. Yeah. If you know you have COVID and you go out and you infect other people or you break your quarantine and infect people, yeah, they can charge you with murder in Italy. And that was weeks ago. My friend is, I met in like a prep. I actually met him in a prepper cat. room or a prepper group on Facebook because he was trying to, he lives with a parent, which is

pretty traditional until you get married over there. You live with your parents to take care of them and stuff. And he's 25 and he's like, here's my food supply. I went out and bought up my parents and he wanted to lock it down. And so I started talking to him and I've kind of watched it progress and check on him. He's still okay, but the situation is just awful. Right. I can only imagine. I actually have a friend out in Belgium, but I haven't heard from him, which makes me a bit concerned, being that he is battling cancer. So him getting this would not be very good for him. Because he had stage three. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's my age. You know, he's my age with stage three brain cancer.

And they didn't tell him they lived that first year and he's made it five years past. So it's like, oh, Lord, and then this happens. Yeah, and people might have to start. You know, Matt just mentioned I saw in chat about places with Central HVAC. What a scary thought that we've discussed is how this virus can travel through air, through vents and in these buildings. Because there's been cases where they've discussed, like, how do people get this in the same building? And if they didn't go on elevators with each other or something, which, of course, you could get it that way. It was traveling through the vent system.

Any places where the air system is so all these high-density buildings in New York all over, you know, it's a scary thought. It is. And we say this not to scare, y'all, to the listeners. We're saying this so you can be aware and start thinking of stuff because if you start taking the extra set. now you can add a little more security and a lot more defense to your plan i'm not saying so yeah come to your house but these are precautions not just for times like this but any day in time because car break-ins have gone up around here uh i haven't seen like actual home invasions increase yet but i'm not to say it won't who's to say it will in either direction but it doesn't hurt to have some

sort of plan to protect you and your family I have a chickens and a garden. People get desperate enough because they're out in the open. Who's to say that's not going to be tempting? I have an electric fence, but it always helps to have something else as a backup. Yeah, yeah, it definitely does. And this whole crisis has made us do some things like that we were intending to do at some point, like do more gardening and projects like that.

And so we started doing them. and there's a lot of, you know, sprouting something people can do in an apartment. Just you can grow a lot of sprouts in a jar or sprout tray and have something fresh to eat. I mean, you can do that in a dorm room. Absolutely. Yeah. Something for me is the rain has been constant, but today I took my time with tending to the chickens. If it's, even if it's raining tomorrow, it's not going to matter.

I've still got to go out there. I'm late on some of my seed. But if I can at least get something going, I can still have some fresh. lettuce and spinach for my family until the peak of the heat hits in which you'll kill off the plants. Yeah, yeah. There's just a lot to think about right now. Yeah, and find another means to being able to support and take care of your family really makes a big difference. For us, being able to grow our garden, being able to get eggs, I got 21 eggs out of my coop. Mind you, coop hadn't been probably checked since Monday, which that's still a good amount of eggs to have been.

been there since Monday. So, or Tuesday. So, you know, I'm able to clean, put up the eggs, and be able to have some sort of food for my family. So gardening is a great one. If you want fresh vegetables, you can still can. Barry picking. Just know what you're picking. I always pick black. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So just, just educate yourself before you jump into it. But there's no harm in finding ways to self-sustain for your family. Fishing is a big one. Turkey seasons right now. So it's just depends on where you live and what's going on. Yeah, yeah. And as time, if times get tougher, the fishing and hunting might be a little harder because more people

doing it. And also, if people are getting kind of, being a little bit weird, it might be kind of dangerous to do it yourself. So that's some other things to think about. Again, we're not there yet. But there are a lot of people already talking about, like, how they're going to hunt and fish and stuff like crazy when there's no game wardens around and all this. and if everybody rushes out and does that, over time, there will be less.

Right. Well, see, we have to deal with the fact of having private property. We have ponds that many people are aware of. We had to deal with trespassers before. There's no telling how that it is now. I mean, even if we have it posted land and we have a right to defend our property, we can shoot at them. But who's to say they won't try to shoot at us as soon as we try to enter our own property?

You know, so we have to deal with the fact that you have people who are, going to take advantage of somebody else's stuff and think they have a right to it even though they don't even own or ask permission to enter the land. Yeah, yeah. And it's, you know, you just got to figure out, you can do a lot just on very little property, too, if you just, you know, just plan your space out well and do container gardens and things like that and just uh you know just do what you can it's very for everybody uh every little bit helps uh a lot of people are baking their own bread now that's not actually that hard to do uh you can

you can make a lot of things at home oh well i'm gonna actually mention something if you if you don't mind oh sure go ahead so we had a freezer fiasco i went and i picked up a bunch of meat that i had ordered from the butcher this morning come find out it was a frozen 10 pound bag of beef so now i have to figure out uh recipes beforehand because now i have to thaw it out and pre-cook it well that being said our freezer for whatever reason someone must have got in it maybe a child i don't know it never closed properly so half of the meat in my freezer this morning when i went to put the meat up was thawed so i ended up having to spend my day to day cooking up almost all the meat or all the meat that had thawed and pre-cooking meals and then vacuum sealing it and freezing it again so I could

actually freeze it because for those who don't know if you thaw raw meat you cannot refreeze it so tonight yeah I made probably four four or five different dishes and froze it so keep in mind folks have a have a contingency plan because something like that could have been a fiasco and I would have lost a lot of money on all that meat that I had in there Yeah, yeah, I I ordered some of those little like five-inch aluminum pie pans Because I just We were talking about convenience food

Like if you want something You can just pop in the oven Because you're tired or you're sick or something You can make a lot of like Your own pot pies or fruit pies Or any kind of pie Shepherds pie And then just get the vacuum sealer out

And kind of lightly vacuum seal them So they don't freeze or burn And then you know you pop two of those in the oven, maybe four if you're really, really hungry for two people. And you got a quick meal. And you could just make a bunch of them and make like a whole bunch of different pies. Oh, I like that idea. See, folks, it's not just self-defense.

We always have to end up on food at some point. Yeah, yeah. You can get those really inexpensively. It was like $8 for 50 panned. And, you know, okay, yeah, it's aluminum and stuff. But you can just like crumpled up and toss it, you know, like you don't have to do dishes. It saves on that too. That helps.

I'm not above using paper plates or doing some convenience things like that. And we don't create a lot of garbage around here. But, you know, sometimes it's nice to not have to clean up a bunch, especially what if you do get sick? Like you got to take care of yourself at home or there's only a couple of people or you need some convenience stuff. Right. Oh, no, that's smart because I never thought about it like that. I mean, that was like I actually had to go out into town today, unfortunately, because I have cut sugar out on my diet, so I don't crave it.

I don't think about it. To me, it's an unnecessary spin, and that my husband is like, we have nothing sweet in the house. Mind you, my husband probably has one of the largest sweet tooth I've ever seen in an individual. So I had to go, and I made sure I stocked up on vanilla pudding mixes and... all sorts of little snacks and candies and I told them you have to make this last. Now, it will be gone in a week, if not a couple days. But at least I tried because I told him, I'm going back out again.

Yeah, sometimes people get caught up on just buying rice and beans and all this stuff. And it's like, yeah, that's great. But do you got any spices to go with that? Do you have any? Like, we like yellow rice. Like yellow rice for, you know, either Chinese dishes. or surf fries for a lot of things

well you just buy saffron and then you can have your own like yellow rice because that actually buying like yellow rice mix is kind of expensive it's like $2 and something for... The saffron rice cooks up about the same. Yeah yeah it's pricey

so I just bought a little bit of saffron I was like well we can turn some of this white rice we got in yellow and no it works it really does. So cookies. Sorry in the chat. There were some cookies. I didn't mean to go off there, but I do appreciate it because as you know and I know, life is going to throw us a bunch of curveballs, whether it be my freezer door being left open, whether it be coronavirus or whatever may happen,

we have to be able to jump at any notice and take that action and run with it. So if I hadn't caught it early enough, I probably could have accidentally let every. everything in that freezer have spoiled. I was fortunate enough to fix it. Like you said, you know, you're able to make do with what's available. You're not going to just go for one thing. You're going to make it convenient and easy for your lifestyle. So fit your preps to you. Fit your preps to your lifestyle. Sam, is there anything else you want to say before we close out for tonight's show? Yes, Ty. I hope everyone gets through this all right. I think it's social distancing as much as

possible. You know, just trying to stay calm with one another and your household is important. A lot of people are stressed. It's like people are going to say things. And it's going to, you know, there might be some kids moments, but everybody's got to kind to cut each other some slack. And, you know, we all get through this. Isn't the first time something terrible has happened or a pandemic.

A lot of our grandparents, great-grandparents, survived Spanish flu. And we're here today, you know. That's right. And remember, everybody handles stress very differently. Just because you and I may have a calm head on our shoulders doesn't mean everybody else does too. Yeah, yeah. You've got to take deep breaths and, you know, try to stay out of town as much as possible because people are pretty tense and people are getting worked up, you know, about a lot of really, I mean, even small things. I've been called more names in the last three weeks than I have in two or three years of writing and prep stuff.

it's just people are very honest so and I've actually found see you get a little more of the backlash but I've actually found more openness to be in a prepper that I've had people reaching out to me asking me tips and advice

as time has gone on so maybe this will you're going to get the good with the bad and the ugly with the beautiful so I mean just bear with it hang in there all of you keep your heads on your shoulders I promise you we are going to be able to get through this

probably better than anybody else who is because we have been prepping for a reason. Yep. All right, folks. Well, I hope you all have a great night. Thank you so much in the chat room. It was definitely lively and great to have Sam. Again, thank you so much. I appreciate having you on.

And to our listeners, next Saturday, make sure my dates are right, I believe next Saturday is our women preppers round table in which I will have the ladies from the chat room and Sam, if she's able to, come back on and we will be discussing prepping from a woman's point of view and how it affects us today. All right, folks, have a great night, take care, and we will see you next weekend. Thank you for listening to the Prepper Broadcasting Network, where we promote self-reliance and independence. Tune in tomorrow for another great show and visit us at Prepperbroadcasting.com.