The Press Box - A Very Goop-y Wedding | Jam Session (Ep. 545)

Episode Date: November 16, 2018

Gwyneth Paltrow got married to Brad Falchuk ... and posted all of the details on goop.com (1:15), Leonardo DiCaprio turned 44 and celebrated accordingly in Los Angeles (15:12), Busy Philipps called out Noah Centineo for ghosting one of her friends (20:47), and congratulations are in order for Idris Elba for winning People’s Sexiest Man of the Year (28:51). Hosts: Amanda Dobbins & Juliet Litman Check out Gwyneth Paltrow’s wedding here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We have so much to talk about. I'm Juliet Lippman. I'm Amanda Dobbins. I mean, where to start. We know where we're going to start. But before we do that, we're also going to talk about the brouhaha of Noah Centeno and Busy Phillips.

And really one of Busy Phillips's friends. Let's not put it all in busy. Yes. We're going to talk about Idris Elba being named Sexiest Man Alive. We're going to talk about Lena and DiCaprio, one of our favorite topics. And of course, We'd like to begin with a wedding.

And that would be Goop's wedding, which happened a while ago, but the picks just recently dropped. Yes, it happened a while ago. The pictures came out maybe a week or two ago, but after our last jam session recording. And if you think that we are going to miss an opportunity to talk about 48 photos of Gwyneth Paltrow's wedding, then you do not understand jam session. Here we are. Let's talk about it. Let's start with the dress, Amanda. There was actually a few outfits, but let's start with the dress that she wore for the ceremony.

It's a lace number with cap sleeves and like a floral lace dress. Yes, by Valentino. With a bodice in a long train. And it's a lovely dress. It's very nice for your first wedding if you're 28 years old. You really eased into the take, you know? You just kind of went up the ramp nice and slow. Go ahead.

Well, I really do like it. But it just reminds me of like of what people, I'm 32, that people were wearing like four or five years ago. I don't think this is age appropriate. I'm sorry. Well, I thought the style was an interesting choice. You make a good point that it is very 2011, for lack of a word. Yes, absolutely. Which will be a recurring theme in this wedding discussion as we also talk about her DJ.

But anyway, I want to defend her a little bit on the age appropriateness, like the first wedding mess of it all. This was a major point of discussion in our very spirited ring or slack discussion. And there were many people who felt that this was not appropriate for a second wedding. And I typically would agree, you know, and also me, like I kind of don't think, whatever, we're going to, it's not, it's not another episode of a man as complicated feelings towards weddings, okay? As a second. It is, it is another episode of Juliet being rude about people's ages and how they should dress, though. No, it's not. It's not because like as a second wedding thing and also, yeah, it is a bit young.

I get it. The thing I would say is that in this case, as best I understand it, Gwyneth Paltrow was not allowed to have a first wedding because Chris Martin was like, nah, I'm not going to do that. And they just kind of eloped to Santa Barbara and they didn't get to do any of this. And so if it's your first opportunity to have a wedding, then I can understand leaning into it a bit more. Right. Like she never got to do it. And so this is sort of like the time to go for it. And she went for it.

Like she really went for it. I still on the actual dress, it's not what I would wear. You know, I would have thought that she would have done a Carolyn Beset Kennedy. And that will look good on Gwyneth. But also you can't do a dress that is famously associated with another blonde, you know? Sure. You can't be a copycat. So in this sense, I don't know.

It was like a quote backyard wedding. The backyard is in the Hamptons, but it still was a backyard wedding. I'm not that mad at it. Yeah, I mean, it's a really nice dress. I just was surprised by the choice and felt it was like not, not befitting a wedding at this stage in life. But maybe I'm just too mean and prescriptive. I don't think you're mean. I wouldn't choose it either.

I will not choose a similar dress for my second wedding. How about that? I do think, Guineatho dress is young. If you think about some of her other, like, recent red carpet looks and even, at the engagement party that Ryan Murphy threw. I think she dressed similarly kind of like what you'd expect for an expensive bride look, but nothing like particularly fashion forward or surprising.

And it's also like she doesn't even have the excuse that like Kate Middleton does of like having to go conservative or having to wear cap sleeves. Like she really could do whatever she wanted and she could like get really creative but chose not to. Like I think it would have been interesting if she'd like teamed up with like someone like Christian Soriano, who I think is like a really cool, like, tailoring to a person's specific, like, circumstance in life. Right.

But she just went really, like, fastball down the middle, wedding dress. Well, I guess another question here is how much is her taste and how much is Valentino taste? Because if you will recall, the weekend of the Ryan Murphy engagement party, which for a moment we all thought was actually a surprise wedding, that surprise was kind of ruined by. by Valentino's partner on Instagram. And because he was like, congratulations on your wedding, like four hours before the party was supposed to happen.

And so everyone who follows gossip stuff is like, oh, apparently they are getting married tonight. And it turned out to just be an engagement party. But I was very clear that Valentino is sort of like involved in this process and involved in her life. And so I don't know when you're Gwyneth Paltrow and you go to Valentino and you're like, please make me a wedding dress. Do you have carte blanche? can you say I want this, this, and that?

I kind of don't think so. Probably not. Yeah, I kind of think you give a mood and then they present you with a sketch and you're like, oh, it's perfect. Yeah, because I think then you become like a brand ambassador for Valentino, basically. Right. I mean, I don't know. If Valentino drew me a dress, I don't think I would have the guts to be like,

what about this instead? And I'm me, you know, I say no to anything. So, like, I'm extremely difficult. So I think that that might be part of it. On the flip side for the actual late night reception with dancing in a barn, she switched into a romper with a cape that was white. And I fucking loved that. I thought that was like playful and flattering and still young without, but like,

but unique and different and more in line with what I would expect from Win the Palo. I actually loved the romper. I'm like, how can I get that in a different color? Yeah. I mean, here's the thing is that the quote, second outfit is almost always better than the wedding dress, unless you are literally Kate Middleton marrying into the royal family. Like, a wedding dress is not really appropriate or realistic for any sort of life occasion. You know, it all looks kind of frilly and ridiculous unless you're like, you know, in a princess play. So I agree with you.

I also think she looks great. Can we talk about the DJ now? Yes, it was girl talk. It was girl talk. Talk about four or five years ago. It was still too late. That's so true. So we need to, we will share the link to the slideshow and all of the wedding information,

but she does include like a quote source book with all the vendors, et cetera. And so that's how we know that the DJ was girl talk. And then we just have to talk about the wedding photography. We have to talk about the wedding photography. Juliet. Yes, Amanda, tell us who the photographer was. Lindsay Adairio, who is most known for being a war photographer. Pulitzer Prize winning war photographer, Lindsay Adairio, is the wedding photographer for Gwyneth Paltrow.

I honestly just had to sit down for 30 minutes after learning this fact. I cannot believe this. What a flex. It was definitely your number one, like, wait what? And thanks to Kaya once again for really engaging with you on this because she was kind of the only one. It's true. I just wanted to shade her. But Kaya was like, yes, this is truly odd.

No, it was true. Like everyone just kept going past it and I had to call again for re-engagement. And God bless Kaya, who was like, yeah, this is really crazy. I was literally like scrolling through Twitter that same day. And I saw a picture of like a really malnourished kid from Yemen. I was like, wait, Lindsay Adairio. Yes, because. And I had to go back several times to me.

sure it was the same person because I could not believe that. Yes, because I think her photographs from Yemen were in the New York Times magazine the same weekend that this was released. It's like, it's not even that Lindsay Adario shouldn't take wedding photographs. I mean, take whatever photographs you want. Like, you're very talented at it. It's just like the lull of Gwyneth Paltrow being like, hmm, I need a photographer. I'd like to have a female photographer. Who should I hire?

Wait, I got it. Lindsay Adario. Unbelievable. This is kind of like part of the case against Gwyneth Paltrow. And I used to be like super anti. Now I'm just sort of like, why waste the time being anti-Gwyneth Paltrow? But it's just sort of like that kind of bizarre flex that is like weirdly tone deaf and just strange that you're just like, how can you possibly be a lifestyle guru when your lifestyle includes having a war photographer shoot your wedding? Like it's just so weird.

I don't even know how you, how do you not think about how that's going to look? I mean, I guess you do. You don't care. Yeah. You do and you don't care. Oh, my dear friend, Lindsay, took the photographs that's, you know, it's so special. We just wanted, like, you know, you can hear the kind of rich people speak happening. But, man, unbelievable.

So, it's, okay. So that's my number one detail. The rest, I would say, honestly, it looks like a fun wedding. Like, yeah. Just really, if you are having a fancy-ass wedding in the Hamptons and you need some extra guests, Like, I'm available. Let me know. Let's talk about the friends she had there.

Okay. Yeah. So Steven Spielberg, obviously. Sure. Yeah. Like, kind of like, I think like her. Her godfather. Yeah, her godfather.

Shout out to that. I, by the way, I love Blythe, she just absolutely love her. Yeah. Nothing but praise for Blythe. She's basically not in the photographs except for one photo where she's kind of having a break out on the deck. Sure. Everyone needs a break during the wedding. And they just took a photo of her and her break because that was clearly the only,

only time she would consent, which I really enjoy. I enjoyed it as well. So thanks to bring up the deck photos. They also showed, I presume, a very, like, obviously jiving Cameron Diaz walking into the party where she's on one leg. Looks like she's having a ball. It's her from behind. But I'm pretty sure it's her, right? I think so.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's her. She's definitely there because she's in the getting ready photographs. She's kind of the only identified bridesmaid, for lack of a better term. I don't know if it was a formal bride. Rital Party. But yeah, she's like in the getting ready picks. It's her, Benjie Madden. There's one random picture, Robbolo, and Winith Baltrow. And to me, that really sucked out because that's the picture in which you can see the romper. Yes. I just honestly fucking love. I just love her romper. Great stuff. And then she had like a couple of other random celebrity friends, but it was just

like very pointed to me. It seems like Robert Downey Jr. gave a toast, if not the toast. Yes. R.D.J. was also there. And there's a picture of him like. like having fun on the grass. Yes. And all of the celebrity friends are unidentified. Most of these photos come with captions, except when there's like celebrities in them. It's true. Basically.

Can we also note the photograph of the place cards for the table? Like, what is that called? Sure. The assignment, the table assignment cards, do you know? Sure. Place cards? Well, no, it's like the, it's the table with your name. Right, where you find out your seat.

And you're at what table in your ad, so then you can go get your place card. Right. Right. So it says there's Mr. and Mrs. Benjamin Madden on one. Yes. Which is Cameron Diaz, for those of you who aren't keeping track. And then there's Miss Gwyneth Paltrow and Mr. Brad Fowlchuk. And I found that pointed.

In what way? I just think this is contributing to the remaking of Cameron Diaz, which I support, by the way, as like sort of like just like, Cameron Diaz's celebrity is over. Cameron Diaz is like a fun wedding guest who's done caring. It's kind of like the era we're in. And I support it. I just find it interesting. So you're saying the Mr. Mrs. Benji Madden is pointed. I thought you were talking about Gwenith.

Oh, yeah. Oh, no, I totally. It's the first thing I noticed. And I was like, wow, that's a choice. You know, whatever. Live your life, do what you want. Pick any name you want. It's fine.

But I agree with you that it was notable. I recently saw Cameron Diaz had an S.O. House. And she looks great, like really good. And she also got into a mini van, which I thought was really cool. Any other notes on the wedding? Should we talk about the cook? Oh, yeah.

Who came from Argentina? Oh, well, that was the rehearsal dinner. Yes, he came from Argentina. My bad. So the chef for the rehearsal dinner was Francis Malman. And then for the wedding was fucking Mario Carbone of Carbone fame. Again, if you are having a fancy wedding in the Hamptons with food from Carbone, I am available. I would love to attend.

Seems great. It's ridiculous, but also seems like a great time. They all look like they're having fun on the wedding dance floor. I love a wedding. As long as I'm not in it, please invite me. Would love to come. I am available. What?

It's true. It's everything I like. There are hors d'oeuvres? Yes. There is an open bar usually? Yeah. Yeah. And this one has Casamigos sponsored, I believe.

Right. No one's looking at their phones. Oh, yes. And it's really true. And there's like good pop music that you can dance to and no one judges you. Great stuff. I really love a home wedding. And also, if you do it.

If you do big, like when it's potter did, it's the most expensive kind of money you can have. Because, like, yes, you don't pay for the space, but literally everything else you do pay for. You do pay for a generator. You have to pay for the furniture. You have to pay for the food. You have to pay for, like, ice. The tent. Like, all this shit you don't think about.

And so it's such a flex because it's actually incredibly expensive. Not only is there a tent company on the vendors list, but there's a tent design and production company that is different from the tent company. I wish I didn't even know you had to do that. And then, of course, there's lighting and AV, which is a totally different situation. Yeah. Wedding lighting, it's a sneaky expense. You know, congratulations to them is what I would say.

Some amazing flexes. And also, I would have gone if I were invited. So, you know, what else can you say? Moving on to another party we wish we could have intended. Yes. Mr. Leonardo DiCaprio had a birthday. 44. The big 4-4, everyone knows.

you got to go all out for the big 4-4. And it was quite an affair. It was at a new private club in L.A. that started in New York, I believe. I think that's correct and just opened in L.A. Yeah, it's in Beverly Hills. Like, it had literally just opened when he had this birthday. And it's called Spring Place.

It's a private members club. It's in Beverly Hills. I think it's like on Wilshire. And the biggest surprise of this party was that Rita Oro was invited. That's true. Gwyneth Paltrow was there. Jennifer Aniston also there. A-Rod was there, no J-Lo, as best as the paparazzi can tell.

A-Rod, no J-Lo is kind of a bummer. I need both. I need at least her, and then if I'm getting him, I need her as well. Jonah Hill was there, star of the greatest Leonardo DiCaprio-related paparazzi incident of all time. And then, Rita. Yeah, you've isolated the key components, which is that Rita was there. What a come up for Rita Ora.

She went from being nearly excommunicated by Rihanna and Beyonce to attending Lina Hedcaprio's casual 44th birthday. Yeah, I'll be honest, it makes me a little worried about Leo stock if he's filling out the guest list. And I want to go back to this spring place situation for a second. Sure, yes, sure. If he's filling it out with Rita Ora, you know, I don't know. Does that mean that there were some other cancellations? It just doesn't really seem like a match in caliber, if you will. Also, as I understand that Springplace is like, is it like Soho House or is it a co-working

space? What's the deal? As far as I can tell, it is very similar to So House. I think all these private clubs are like pretty similar unless the super secretive ones have like other membership requirements or even activities or membership events I don't know about. But I was looking into Spring Place and it looks pretty similar. It's just like, it's just almost like a reboot to like be more exclusive, I guess. Okay.

Is it more exclusive? I mean, maybe. I don't know. There's not a lot of details out there about it. But like what TV show will incorporate it? Because that's how I think so has really got famous, what mainstream is because it was in Sex and the City. Oh, really? Oh, I guess that makes sense.

Yeah. That's the first time I had heard of it. And then, you know, it came over for England. But there's like so many of them now. Like Paul Allen before he passed away, was still opening one in Hollywood called the H Club, which was based on this one in London called the Hospital. Club. The most exclusive one is called like Five Hertford. Okay. And it's, it's based in London and, like, I'm all George Clooney go there. That's the one that's like the most secretive and the most exclusive. So I think Spring Place is not on the same level. It started in New York after all. The real ones are like based on like European aristocracy. I was just going to say they're all British because the British people are still completely obsessed with class and finding ways to keep people out of things. And being snubs. Yeah. Okay. I don't know whether having your birthday party at like the, You keep saying it's more exclusive.

I'm suspicious of it because it's new. And it's American and new. So I don't think that means it's exclusive. I think it just means it's a wannabe. It's possible they paid him to have it there. Well, I guess I don't know what to say about that. I wouldn't rule it out. If you were Leonardo DiCaprio,

would you use your birthday as an opportunity to make money? It doesn't really seem like his style, but maybe like later in life he doesn't really care. I'm not worried about his style. I'm wondering about your style. When you're as famous as Leonardo DiCaprio and you have been for as long as possible, are you turning your birthday into a branding opportunity? No, but I'm also not inviting me to Aura.

Okay, right. That's what I'm saying. I mean, listen, Leo is Leo. I know about the pussy posse. I know about the headphones. You know, we are where we are for a lot of reasons. But I still, I don't know. This doesn't seem like the coolest possible execution, I have to say.

I expect a little bit more debauchery, but maybe our guy's growing up. He's keeping it, keeping it cool. He is 44. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever, happy birthday to that guy. I hope he's still listening to MGMT. May forever he reign.

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But there's something brewing. Perhaps it's already over. Between Busy Phillips and Noah Centenayo. Would you like to set the scene? I would love to. So, on James Corden, I believe, a week ago, Busy Phillips and Noah Centineo were both guests. Busy was there promoting her new late-night show on another late-night show because the webs we weave are very tangled.

Anyway, because it's James Cornyn, you know, they're both sitting on the show. the couch together. And we actually, it was edited. So I'm going off a TMZ report here, but apparently what happened is that during the course of the show, Busy Phillips called out Noah Centeno for ghosting one of her writers. Apparently they were talking, they were chatting. It didn't specify what app, just a dating app, and then he ghosted. And so that's what happened. And apparently his team was so nervous about it that they asked James Corden and James Corden's team agreed to edit it down. So that is not available on the internet or on TV for you. That's just all according to TMZ.

TMZ I tend to trust. So I think we can treat it like gospel. I think, I mean, that's what we do here. I definitely agree that it's happening. So the questions are, who is the writer and what dating app? And also, I mean, the main point here is do we think that Noah Centeno is abusing his power? which the answer is probably. I'm going to go with no.

I should say, abusing his power is like a really bad turn of phrase in, you know, this economy. What I meant was, is Noah Centeno playing the field? Which the answer is like definitely yes, 100%. And he should. He's like 22, 23. He's the kind of attractiveness that I think will not improve with age. I think he's like kind of near his peak. Wow.

Wow. Yeah. I didn't know that take was coming. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the thing is that he's so closely tied to Peter Kovinski at this point. Like, everyone who's into him is into him as a high school heartthrob thing thing. So he could be a very handsome 35-year-old, but if he doesn't look like a lax player that's really hot that likes to you, even though that breaks like the social codes of high school, then no one will be into him.

I just think the least surprising thing I've heard in 2018 is that no one. Sonsano ghosted someone. Like, of course he did. He's a fuck boy. Let's break this down a bit. Let's break this down a bit. It's almost definitely Raya, right? Definitely Raya. I can't imagine anything else. Right. Which because I think for a woman who's a writer on Bizzy Phillips show, she would probably be on Raya. That's why I say it. Not because of him, I bet he's on all the apps and doesn't give a shit, but because of the woman, I bet it's Raya. She can't, like, be out on Bumble or whatever. Yes, he can. He can just not respond. Sure, but if he were on Bumble, we would know by now, right? Because someone would have been like, oh, Noah Centeno's on Bumble.

Yeah, probably. But Raya, much like Soho House, will kick you out if you take too many screenshots of people. So we might not know that. If you screenshot, it, like, shows you your own IP address so that, like, it scares you. It's a scared straight situation. Do we need to do, like, a quick 10 seconds on Raya? I thought that everyone knew, but then recently also in the ringer slack, I learned that a lot of people are not familiar with Raya. Sure. Go for it.

Right. Raya is a dating app that I first heard of in early 2016 because Trevor Noah was found to be on it, even though he had a serious girlfriend at the time, and he said he was on it for research. And it is like a, you have to be approved to join it. And it's like targeted towards like creatives and celebrities. It is the Soho House of Dating Apps. Yes. Also, you have to pay for it.

So it's not free, similar to Soho House. And there's a lot of, a lot of lame guys and hats and like, occasionally some professional athletes. Right. I went to have Kevin Durant on it. I had it for a while. The first time I ever opened it, Joe Jonas was the first person I saw.

Wow. And then I didn't want to pay for it, so I'm not on it anymore. Sorry. Right. But we're assuming that Noah Centeno and the writer are. Yes. For sure.

I can see where you're 23 and you're like, oh, look at all. And also like, the other thing about Raya that sucks is that you pick a song and to like go through someone's pictures, you have to listen to their song. And it's just like this is noisy and like can't be done idly. It's like an active.

It's like an active app. And I'm just like not about that. It's just like, come on. Can you pick silence as a song or do you have to pick a song? I mean, that would be hilarious. What? I haven't encountered dead air as anyone's personal soundtrack. That's exactly what I would do.

I wouldn't you. It's too much information all at once. Okay. But here's my other question about this story. Here's my other question. What is, what are we calling ghosting in terms of, of talking on riot. I think that this might be a little unfair

because you're just, are any of those conversations good enough or a permanent, like a permanent connection enough that you're then suddenly ghosting? Is ghosting just not replying? No.

Ghosting to me implies there's like an actual relationship or like a preexisting agreement that you just don't show up for. I agree. So I kind of think that this is a little unfair. I'm sure that Busy Phillips's writer was disappointed because she liked talking to Peter Kvinski.

I also think it's honestly like a really great late-night anecdote and they probably should have just kept it in. And I'm kind of impressed that his team had the ability to edit that out. I don't think there's anything surprising about this. So I'm like, why do they edit it out? Who cares? I'm like, maybe he needs a better more season team. I mean, maybe he's really bad on late-night shows and couldn't figure out a way to respond to it, which would not surprise. me, you know, that is...

I will say, Noah Centineo as himself is not really like giving me much. I'm not like, wow, I need more of that guy. He's no Timothy Shalame. Yeah, I don't know if that he's like on his feet in a way to spin that into the charming anecdote that you need to do. I'm sure he just like looks like a embarrassed dodo. He like probably looks like your cousin at Thanksgiving dinner when you start making fun of them, which is not what his career needs.

So I get it, but it seems fine. I don't think that this is a major offense. Me neither. Okay. Noah Sonsano, go forth. What's next for him? Does he have any, like, any, like, exciting projects in production? I, you know, here's my thing, is that, and I say this with a lot of respect for Peter Kavinsky

and to all the boys I've loved before and the experience that we all shared together, and are still sharing, by the way, one of my friends just watched the movie last weekend. She's got small kids. Cut her some slack. And then I immediately got all these text messages being like, oh, my God, Peter. Kavinsky, can you believe it? You know? So that's a special thing that we all had.

I'm going to say that's his peak. I don't really see it getting better than that for him. No. And I think that just the biggest mistake is to not like strike all the iron is hot. Like I hope that he like just signed up for a million things right away. Because otherwise, who know, you know, I just feel like you're right. Like that he's not going to get a lot more. Right.

Otherwise he's like the Devonsawa of the 2000. Oh, Devin. So you know what? Devin's pretty good on Twitter. So maybe that's what'll happen. Maybe Noah Centennial will learn how to respond to conversation on apps and be good as an adult. We'll see. Also, Devin Selma had a few hits.

I think that's like a high bar. He had Casper. He had now and then. He had little giants. He had my personal favorite slackers several years later. He like, that's four off the top of the head. Peter Griminski's only going to have one. Well, he was in the fosters.

People really like the fosters. We're two grownups. So, yeah, jinks. So, but I think he's had a couple. I think it's a Devon Sawa career. So look for him on Twitter in 20 years. It'll be excited. That's fair.

Finally, congratulations is in order. Yeah. To the one and only, Idriselba. Yes. Edriselba. This is great. And I was actually surprised. We had a really interesting conversation in the office the afternoon before this was announced, Sexiest Man Alive, which was basically everyone just making guesses and predictions.

And none of us got Idris because most of us were too cynical. Because we did not think that People magazine would be able to land anyone particularly interesting in this day and age. I think I voted for Jason Momoa, which is an iconic thing by me. Whatever, he's going to be an Aquaman, right? Because, you know, I think this is what's interesting about these things. And it was fun to talk about. There's a really good amount of piece in Slate from 2014 that's headlined how the sexiest man alive's sausage gets made and it talks about a lot of this. But the conversation we were having is that it's not

just that like People Magazine sits in a room and like looks at pictures of a bunch of people and it's like, wow, this is the sexiest man alive. They are, it's a marketing tool and you have to find someone who's willing to do it and who has projects line up and they decide it's the right move for them to be sexiest man alive. And it also is the right fit for people who's trying to sell magazines. And I thought it would be Jason Mamoa because, no one else would want it. And I was wrong. It's Idris.

Maybe he won't be James Bond, but he can be sexiest man alive. There were a lot of guesses for Bradley Cooper, but you pointed out that he at this point wouldn't do it. Yeah, because you do actually have to sit for a photo shoot. You have to agree. You're like, yes, I would like to be the sexiest man alive. And I don't really, that's not what Bradley Cooper is going for anymore because he's trying to be, you know, Mr. Fancy Pants Director.

Honestly, it's working. So. And also, he's not actually Jackson Main in real life. So, you know, I don't know whether. I think a lot of people would have loved for Jackson Main to be sexy as man alive. It would have been exciting. I haven't been to wear my Jackson Main shirt with pride for the rest of my life. So, you know, I get it.

But I'm excited for Idris Elba. It would be cool if he could be James Bond, but just doesn't seem likely. Yeah. The Broccoli family is not very good on issues of non-white people. So, I mean, let's like that. That's kind of where it is. I think he would be great. You know, I would prefer him as James Bond than his sexiest man alive.

But, you know, he's... Do you get paid to be sexiest man alive? I don't think so. I think that it's... No, it's just a press. It's a mutually beneficial. Like, we use your face and then you get a lot of press. Because if you think about People magazine's target audience, it's not New York and

in L.A. It is kind of... Sure. everywhere else. And so it's a lot of exposure that you wouldn't otherwise get. And it does, I mean, it's silly. And there is a lot of, there are a lot of interviews of people saying, people who have been sexiest man alive than talking about how embarrassing it was and teasing each other. There was a time when George Clooney, Brad Pitt, and then Matt Damon all got it. And when Matt, I think Matt Damon was the last and when he finally got it, Clooney and Pitt were making fun of him or something.

So I get that, but it is also, it conditions people to think of you in a certain way. Sure. And I think that is probably the quote payment. I don't know, though. You know, you could see in five years. It doesn't seem totally unlikely. I just don't think we've gotten there yet. Yeah, yeah.

He's going to be in cats, which I love musicals and I could not be less enthused for this. For Cats, The Musical? Do you like Cats the Musical? No, I hate it. It's horrible. It's one of the most traumatic theater-going experiences, or really just one of the most traumatic cultural experiences that I've had in my life. I was under the age of 10. And it was very young.

And I was very lucky. Well, you know, Juliet, I grew up in Atlanta, Georgia. So going to New York, it was like a very big trip. It was very exciting. I was lucky to do it. And we're going to go to a Broadway show. It's so exciting. And then there are people in Unitars and, like, catwhiskers.

up the aisles and they crawl on your seat and they're just cats, but they're humans and they're singing. It was so upsetting. It's awful. It just deserves better. That's all I want to say. Who else is in cats? Taylor Swift. Oh, man. He really does. Adris deserves better. I'm honestly going to go ahead and say that Taylor Swift deserves better at this point. It's been a rough few years for her. Ian McKellon's also in it. Judy Ditch is in this? I know. They've suckered a lot of people. Jennifer Hudson?

She's like probably like right for it. And James Gordon is right for it too. Everyone else, absolutely not. It just feels sorry for them. Oh my God. Tom Hooper is directing this. I forgot. Oh, no. It's going to be horrible.

Okay. You know what? So at least Idris Elba is the sexiest man alive. He has that to cling to. Shout out to him. Yeah. Thanks for listening. Congratulations to so many people.

Gwyneth Paltrow got married. Lina R de Caprio had a birthday. Noah Sincenio is worth talking about. And Iderselba, Sextus Van Alas. Amazing stuff. Thanks for listening and we'll be back after Thanksgiving.