The Press Box - Ep. 242: 'Jam Session' With Juliet Litman and Amanda Dobbins

Episode Date: January 25, 2017

The Ringer's Juliet Litman and Amanda Dobbins discuss Martha Stewart's drone protocol (10:00), the passing of Mary Tyler Moore (19:00), Matthew Goode on 'The Crown' (24:00), Oscar snubs (27:00), A$AP Rocky and Kendall Jenner's relationship status (32:00), and Bradley Cooper's bachelor lifestyle (38:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The people have spoken and Jeff Ross has returned for Rose Battle 2. The four-night event features top comedians getting verbally violent until just one is left standing. Featuring a star-studded lineup of judges, including Snoop Dogg, Sarah Silverman, and Jason Sudecass. This is a battle you don't want to miss. The four-night event begins January 26 at 10-9 Central on Comedy Central. Don't miss the live finale on Sunday, January 29th at 10-9 Central to see who gets crowned the king or queen of cruelty. Welcome to Jam Session. I'm Julietette. I'm Amanda Dobbins.

are you, Amanda? I'm excited, Juliet, because the Matthew Good podcast is back. We are officially back in Matthew Good season. We're not going to talk with it just yet, but we shall. We're also going to breathe through the Oscar nominations and hit our two newly minted segments, DTR, and one thing I can't get over. Very exciting. It's a lot of structure. That's good. Yeah, totally. But first, a topic that's really important to many people, particularly you and our friend Katie Baker. And I'm quite intrigued too, that it did less of a personal attachment. Big Martha Stewart News this week. Here's an article from the Washington, sorry, from the Wall Street Journal from January 24th

called Why Martha Stewart Pilots Her Own Dron. It's part of My Tech Essentials. And the subheadline is Martha Stewart on high-tech gardening gear, the best juicer and the benefits and perils of piloting a drone. Martha is a real 21st century woman. You know, I think that that is why we still have Martha. She's in tune with the present. I'm gifted, gifted Twitter and Instagram user. It's true.

She's very funny. She's really funny. And she understands, like, how to do it. The frequency, kind of the, she's not too serious. Yeah. I mean, she still is like an old person with weird capitalization, so that's very funny. She keeps it casual, too. Yeah.

I'm not worried about her, like, doing any political snafus or anything like that. That's very true. She's just doing her own thing, which is gardening. and homemaking. And this is an article, it's basically a glorified list, which is one of the best kinds of articles of the sort of like essential items in her home.

And I think we're just going to go over it one by one because it's pretty ridiculous. So thanks in advance to the Wall Street Journal and writer Chris Cornelis for providing us with such great material to dive into this week. So number one, I keep a Rowenta Master Valley garment steamer. IS-6300 in my office.

Okay, so listen, I don't know this particular... This steamer? This particular steamer. Do you have a steamer? Yes, I do. I was about to say, like, she is right. She says that it's better than an iron and an ironing board, which is 100% true. You do not need an iron or an ironing board if you have a steamer.

Okay. Good to know, because I've never ironed anything in my life. Right, because that's the thing. You're literally never going to get out an ironing board. I actually remember my first apartment, like doing, did the ritual IKEA trip with my mother. And I was like, okay, well, so here's the ironing board. Red Hook? Yeah, of course.

Okay. No, actually. It was before Red Hook, because I'm old. Sure. So we went to Elizabeth, New Jersey. And I was like, okay, great. And now I need an ironing board. And my mother was like, I don't actually think you do.

You just need a steamer. And I was 22. And like, fuck you, mom. I'm my own person. And I need, you know, unwrinkled clothes. So I got an ironing board that I literally kept in my studio apartment for seven years and never used. And then I threw it out. So then you found the Martha Stewart Light.

And you're like steamer. Here I am. I'm a straight shower girl. Just turn on that shower. Get that steam going. I do that a lot. Very wasteful, not okay in California. Yeah, it's wasteful.

It also doesn't, like, the steamer is really amazing. You can watch the wrinkles, like, falling out. Like, I have literally, like, taken, vividly remember a date that I went on, like, five years ago and, like, taking a truly crumpled up white button-down shirt out of, like, the bottom of the hamper. Like, with the act where you could see the stains disgusting, and I, like, rehabilitated it with the steamer.

Do they have, like, scent infusions for steamers? Like, could you give? Oh, interesting. Because that would be a really good item. Like when I was in college, Fabrize was essential for Friday mornings. After going out, you need to like forbreed your clothes, basically. Yeah. Because you smelled so much of smoke.

I did frieze in one hand and steamer in the other on this particular garment. That's very smart. Yeah, well, you know. That's very smart, but they should build that in. I'm sure Martha would support that. Can I give like one more tip on the steamer, though, that Martha wouldn't tell you? I would not recommend steaming the garment while it is on your body. And I have some scars.

That sounds awful. I will show them to you. I'm not going to make the public because of their placement. But yeah, you know, keep it on the hangar when you're steaming. But otherwise it's great, much better than an iron. Good to know. Next item. This one is making me raise my eyebrow.

To start seedings for my garden, I use something called an urban cultivator, an indoor gardening device. There's nothing else quite like it. This machine is programmed to water, light, and irrigate, and keep the temperature constant. I've already started, Lupine, Delphineums, and Formosa lilies, and marijuana. Oh, wait, that's not what it says. That's just an addition. It just seems like this would be really good for growing marijuana. I totally agree.

If you can control the conditions of irrigation, water, and light, that's perfect, right? I mean, from the TV show Weeds, that's what I learned when they had the very elaborate grow rooms in the basements. I'm sure that this very tasteful cabinet is being put to that exact use somewhere, right? Throughout California and the world, probably. That said, in Martha's offense, I'm sure that Martha, I don't know whether she's growing. read because she just like has people who can get it for her and like why bother but um does she have a home in california i don't think so oh she should get one i guess i guess i don't actually i don't totally know the extent of her property holdings i think there's the one in catona and there's a

connecticut as well connecticut yeah hard to believe she hasn't made an appearance on nancy meyer's movie yet that's a great point i but like you almost have to wonder if there's some sort of beef that we don't know about yeah it's almost like too close yeah because like why i was since she and it's complicated. That movie, like, could have been about her as far as I know. Like, I just take out Merrill Street, put in Martha Stewart. I mean, you forget that there was, like, 10 years where Martha Stewart was... Fallon?

Yes. And locked up. Yeah, exactly. Sure. So, like, maybe it had something to do with that. But she's still at a Birkenbag. Yeah. Here's what I want to say about the Urban Cultivator.

Okay. I was literally Googling a much smaller version of this yesterday. For your own plant growing? Yes, for growing herbs indoors, like basil, et cetera. and it seemed great. It seems like it really works. What's the price on an urban cultivator? What were you looking at?

I think the one that I was looking at was like $50, and I've had room for three plants, so you would have a basil plant going, a parsley plant. Parsley is notoriously hard to grow anyway, so any help that I could have with that would be great. Italian or flat? I think flat. Oh, okay.

I mean, I don't really care. Sure. It's hard to grow. Well, I think this urban cultivator is a minimum $2,000, so that's a little pricey. Listen, it's Martha. I know. Who do you think has more expensive tastes?

Martha Stewart or Gwyneth Paltrow? Martha. No. Well, mm. I was looking at the shop section of goop.com. It's tough. For a few reasons. Yeah.

And there were like, there were some good deals. There were some tumbler glasses I was really into. I thought about getting them for $4 for $50. It was like, oh, a great deal. And then the next item was a two-person sauna for your backyard, and that was $30,000. So she's sort of, did you ever have those hammocker schlemmer catalogs growing up? She's filling that space a bit. Yeah.

She's like filling the, the bougie white lady version of that with the infrared sonnas and whatever. But there are some, you know, Martha Stewart sells things that she has like a betting line at Cameron, I believe. So I think that she goes high low. They both do. I'm trying to think of like in their home who has the more expensive things, like when they're buying for on their own time. I think Goop, but be my guess. Interesting. Because I feel like Martha is sort of more like cool country house vibe.

And like you can go really expensive for that stuff on like your wine cellar. But there are certain things like your just like the wooden spoons you use for cooking and stuff. It's just like not that expensive. I just feel like Goop is like, I don't know. It's like her stuff is newer and therefore more expensive and a tad more modern. I just feel like her taste is Heath's ceramics and which are not cheap at all. Yeah, I know. But you could imagine Martha.

being like, this is the flatware from the palace of the something. I don't even know. It's true. Well, next item. I have a fabulous wine opener. Make unknown. This is not helpful. I need a new wine opener, Martha. That was given to me by an old boyfriend. He was a very

picky person. He liked beautiful objects. And this was his favorite corkscrew. It's brass. It's Italian. It's large and beautiful. I know we don't work, Blue, but okay. It's brass? I'm not. Let's just you know what? I need it. It's large and beautiful.

Okay, thank you. Are we talking about her boyfriend or the corkscrew? Thank you, Juliet. Yep. Correct. I recommend seeking out this article solely for the picture of the corkscrew. There's one here, and they say make unknown. So obviously this is a photo from Martha's collection.

Yeah. Or like maybe taking on her iPhone even. It's pretty wild. That's kind of like, this is great. This is the type of thing that I want from more celebrities, which is like, it reminds me of the episode of Gomore Girls where there's the Dean box and Rory goes back to it has like all. the dean stuff.

Like, I like to think that Martha has boxes for, like, different phases of her life. Like, maybe she has a felony box. Maybe she has an ex-Italian boyfriend box. Who knows? And this is just came straight out of it. It's pretty amazing. The next item on here is a juicer, and you want to know what? I don't care about juices.

That's fine. And then she has a camera. I also don't care about that. This is where it gets good. Get a phone, Martha. Yeah. Okay. She actually, by the way, does need to get a phone with a better camera, just from the Twitter and

and Instagram pictures. Yes, her food pictures. Upgrade to that iPhone 7, Martha. I believe in you. Yes, I agree. Okay, here it gets good. I like flying drones to get aerial views of property. I'm doing a building project, and it's very nice to be able to see from above.

It's very handy for lining things up without a surveyor. I lost my last drone, a DJI Phantom 2 vision in a neighbor's property. It flew into a tree, so I need to get another one or at least replace some parts. I don't really know what to say about that. Well, I have a few thoughts. You're right. Go ahead. I would also be really into property and getting a good view of it from an election.

trotting device if I was under house arrest. And she was under house arrest. So, like, that doesn't surprise me at all. And I bet she did not have a drone during that time. And she probably was like, you know, it would be so great if I had a drone. So then she made her dreams come true. It's, like, pretty amazing. I'm happy for her.

It's also hilarious that she lost it in a neighbor's property. Like, the neighbor probably was pissed. Right. That's the thing. If she lost it in the neighbor's property, it means the neighbor did not return it. Right. Which, I mean... Also, like, who wants, like, a...

For all you know, a UFO hitting into your... It's true. There was a drone in my neighborhood a few weeks ago. It's not okay. It was just, like, hovering above. It's not okay. It was clearly, like, an amateur... Sure.

I mean, I guess I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, you don't know. In 2017. Yeah, you don't. Like, do we need to start, like, when you... In the drone era, do we need to start, like, assigning air rights to renters? Like, is that part of a lease?

I think so. Yeah, because drones... It's got to be concerned. I don't know what Martha's spying on me. Or having her drone just, like, break on top of my property. There should be some sort of I'm entering a place where you should be able to consent or not consent to drone like you do to be on television. Right, exactly. What kind of project do you think she's doing?

She's doing a property project. It's got to be the chicken coops. Oh. She loves running out of those coops. Good call. Yeah. Do you think you need a surveyor for that? Sure.

because you want to see how it fit, you know, because like the coop is one part of the large farm. Right. Okay. It's a 150-acre farm as we learn in the next item. Yeah. My regular residence is a 150-acre farm in Catona, New York, which you just referenced. When I don't have time to walk, I take my 2017 Polaris Ranger EV. It's the perfect little electric vehicle.

I love it because it's silent and quiet. I still ride my horses at least once a week so they're not jealous. Don't we all? I just also want to add from the corrections and amplification section. the Wall Street Journal. An earlier version of this article incorrectly stated that she owns Polaris Ranger XP-900 and featured a photo of that model, which has been replaced. So don't get your Polaris Ranger EVs confused.

I'm pretty sure she wanted credit for having an electric vehicle. Yeah. Oh, that's a good point. That's the main difference here. But I don't think she's like going, I don't think she's like commuting with it. So like, okay, cool. I mean, we're happy for you, Martha? That's great.

She's really, she's just really into property, which I guess, knew that about her, but this really, to use the word from the Wall Street Journal, amplifies that view of her. More on real estate and property. When I bought my house in Maine, oh, good. It came with a lost end Marco 85E espresso machine. I'm not a big coffee drinker, but when I tasted how delicious that coffee was, I started to think maybe I do like coffee.

Now neighbors come for it. Wait for it. The Clintons one stop by for a cappuccino. They loved it. Yes, Martha! Yes! I can't believe it took like the eighth entry. for her to name drop. I know, but like that's so much better, you know? It's so easy. She's just

throwing it in. It doesn't even matter to her, you know? It's just like the Clintons liked it. We were feeling so comfortable with Martha. We just were like, yeah, we could be like you. None of these items are that expensive except for the home cultivator, urban cultivator. But nah, we don't have the Clintons dropping in for a cappuccino. You don't know who doesn't want a drone over them. Like Martha's George's drone is the Clinton's. So she should think about that. Okay, the next one's really good. Yeah. I like to play Scrabble on my iPad. I don't play with friends. I play against the machine. Gene.

God bless. Although now my two grandchildren, four and five, play with me. They're very agile. They know how to move the letters around to look for double and triple letter scores. It's a good way to learn to read and spell. I love that she doesn't. She probably doesn't have friends, right? That's why she doesn't play against friends.

No, I think that she has friends, and she is just like, you're bad at this, and this is boring, and I don't want to play with you. Here's what I was going to ask you. Like, when you imagine Martha Stewart playing Scrabble with her grandchildren, is she, like, going over the tiles with them and being like, good job. Sammy, you figured out how to spell kangaroo or whatever, or is she just, like, mean. Like, I will beat you. Mean.

I will win. Totally. Totally mean. Also, she probably plays against the machine almost as a way so her grandkids can't play against her. She doesn't want to, like, dumb it down. So she's, like, doing big words and just, like, telling them what they mean. They're basically watching. She's literally just, like, life is cruel.

I'm going to be you and Scrabble, and the rest of the world will, too. Amazing. Okay. Next one. I'm pretty into this one. Oh, really? Okay, tell me why. One of the healthiest ways to find your plants is to make compost tea, a combination of compost and water that's heated to a certain temperature and brewed like a regular tea.

Okay. Yes, Amanda? So, just to be clear, she is spending time making homemade plant food. Okay. Continue. With compost. Okay. It doesn't smell.

That's important because I was going to say that sounds smelly. Yeah. I use the written house compost tea brewer. I had the 10 and 25. gallon systems, but they come in small sizes too, so you can use one even if you only have a porch full of plants. Good for you. And your new life of growing herbs inside, Amanda. I know. This is a good thing. I should do this. It's definitely a lot of work. Like this... I don't compost. Do you compost? Is that bad? I feel really bad admitting that at public.

I know, especially in California where it's... All of my in-laws compost. We do? Yeah. And like... Even the urban ones? I just think... Yes. My sister-in-law keeps it in her freezer. She's like a very... really good person. Urban composting, there's a very high barrier to getting it done. But yeah, Martha is shaming us. We should be composting like her. This is, like, I just really enjoyed this. Like, there's just, there's something

so as soothing as, like, going over it with you as it was reading it, as just, like, thinking about Martha's life on the farm. It's true. I think my favorite form of celebrity journalism is celebrities talking about either, like, what they have watched or read or consumed or what they've

bought. Yeah. And it's like in the T magazine, they'll do the double reviews where they have people love that feature. Vulture does a thing where they ask everyone what the last thing they bought on Amazon was, which is fantastic. I like that too. It's just revealing enough.

Like it feels intimate without being like you have to tell me about, you know, your childhood trauma. Sure. Also, like Martha Stores is perfect because it goes like kind of low, mostly high. And it's just like so on brand. It adds color to the like person you already think. thought she was, which is great. I don't need to really revise too many things that I thought about her, which is great.

And I don't know. I'm just happy she did this. The press that she's willing to do is interesting. Like, I feel like she makes very specific choices. She doesn't do a ton of press because she doesn't need to. But, like, when she does, I feel like you always, like, learn something about her. Yeah, that's true. I'm trying to think.

I mean, obviously she was promoting the Snoop show for a while. Yes. But before that, there was a very famous skincare article. She did this skincare diary in the New York Times. Yes. All I remember is that she was just like, I don't get clogged pores, so I don't have to worry about that, which is just like, honestly, twice a month, that quote pops into my mind and haunts me.

I do get clogged force. I think, FYI. Most people do. I know, but not Martha Stewart. It's probably because she's spending so much time steaming or like around steam. That's true. That didn't work for me, but I didn't. Don't put that home steamer on your face.

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Mary Tyler Moore and Rhoda were on Nick at Night, like all the time. And I used to watch them in the middle of the night, like, always. And then in college, I bought the DVDs so I could have them. And I don't know. It's just like, there's Mary and Rota are my friends and so comforting. It's just, I didn't know that about you. It's nice. I loved it.

You know, I confess that I'm not as much of an expert on that particular show. Sure. But I have, you know, I have the memory of the Bray forever and the last episode, which is like a very famous workplace episode of television. Yeah. I mean, it's like, it's such a foundational show in terms of workplace sitcoms. It also, like, you know, is so popular before women were, like, really, like, commonly working, which is, like, amazing. It was a lot about female friendship when that was, like, not really topic on television. Yeah.

And also I moved to California with the never going to the state of California. So I was like, Mary Tyler Moore can do it. She can move anywhere. So can I. It's so sad. One thing that always confuse me about Mary Tyler Moore is the name of her character is Mary Richards. Yeah, I guess that was their, like. That was the way they did it.

Like the Bob Newhart show was similar. Exactly, because she was famous on her and right, and so they figured you would watch the show that way. It blew my mind when I realized she was on the Dick Van Dyke show. Oh, yeah. She was Laura. But she was Laura. Yeah, that's what she was. became famous.

That was her breakout role. I know. I just love her. I'm so bummed about it. Yeah. It's really sad. Remember when Valerie Harper almost died? That was,

and then she was fine? No, I don't remember that. There was, like, all these rumors, then she was okay, and it's just not. Just a bummer. I'm gonna miss Mary Tyler Moore. I liked having her in our world.

Very too. It's sad. Yeah, it really is. And it's just great, great 20 minutes. Like, you know, episodes are short, maybe like 25 or whatever. When you just,

they're, seasons one through three on Hulu. Highly recommend. They're great. Also, one thing I loved about it was her apartment Was it just like a very... I vividly remember the apartment. It had a great window and also didn't really make sense.

Like TV homes, so it didn't make sense back then. The most confusing house ever, full house. Well, you know, because the inside and the outside are the exact, are totally different. Right. But the outside of the house is so iconic in the credit sequence and people... They actually show two different outside houses. Because there's the one where they actually live

and then they show what are called the Painted Ladies, which are on that square in San Francisco, but people think it's one and the other. whatever, apparently I know a lot about the full house house. Also, the two staircases, you know, to upstairs. That's true. I always wanted a house like that. That was a big trope on ABC.

The Family Matters had that too. They had two, oh, the kitchen one and the living room one, yeah. Yeah, it was just that doesn't make any sense, but I always wanted a house like that. Okay. Boy Meets World, too. Anyway, love you, Mary Tyler. I'm going to miss you. Yeah, RIP.

Patch an episode tonight. Yeah, have your topic for us. Really for you. Matthew Good on the Crown. I mean, so I received this news yesterday morning. Yes. Where were you? I was at home.

I was in my living room. Okay. And I, my husband was also home and he was like in the next room. And I just honestly did full on Oprah like, Matthew good on the crown! Like in my house. And I did not get the response I was looking for in my home. The other inhabitants were not as excited about it as I was. You might be, barring his mom, you might be the most excited person on the planet.

I'm excited, too, but not quite as excited as you. I mean, his session has historically been a Matthew Good podcast. It feels great to have him back in relevancy. I loved him on The Good Wife. This is great news. So can I spoil? Sure. Briefly.

I mean, you know, I'm spoiling history, so whatever. If you don't want the second season of the Crowns spoiled for you, stay off Wikipedia. And then, like, email me because we should be friends. But, I guess. He will be playing Lord Snowden, who is the person that Margaret eventually marries. So he will actually be a regular character. Also, they had sort of a glitzy but not too stable marriage, so there will be like lots of drama.

I think basically Matthew Good will be a handsome asshole for an entire season of the crowd. That's just great news. That's exactly what he should be doing all of the time. Yeah. That's just really great news. I'm very excited about it. He's just so handsome. And very charming.

And a great actor. I'm a bit rakeish. just, like, lovely. I do think he's a very good actor. Yeah. He was a good on the good wife. I didn't make it through that season. It's okay.

It wasn't the best season, but he was good on it just because he's a bright light wherever he is. It's nice that he's... I sort of want every British actor I like to be on the Crown at this point. I just...

This is the best it's ever going to get for me in the TV space. If you're committing to six seasons of a show... Yeah. And you are a British actor. Like, okay, so there's just going to be six seasons. There's been a lot of people

in the Queen's life. If you don't get a role in the show, it's a real referendum. him on you. It's like saying something. It's really, you've got to re-evaluate what you're doing to understand why you've been overlooked because there's plenty of roles out there. Yeah. I just, it's going to be great. One will season two of the Crown be coming? They say later this year, I think. Really? Wow. I mean, they're filming now. Oh, great. I think that the, you know, it came out of November last year, so I'm hoping that, um, I think they'll try to do the same thing.

Right. Okay. So we can watch it over Christmas. That's great news. Well, congratulations, Matthew good. You're back, baby. Can't wait. Yeah. It's going to be great. More congratulations this week. The Oscar nominations came out. How are you feeling? I like LaLand. I had a good time when I was watching it. And

I do think it's like an achievement in movie making because there's a lot of people moving parts. But like tied the most number of Oscar nominations ever, like I don't know. Yeah, people got to calm down a little. And I say this is also you know, it's hard, right? Because the backlash is also like starting.

Not starting. Like, the backlash has been in full swing for a while, and there are a lot of people who are like, this is bullshit. Lollah Lola probably shouldn't win the best picture Oscar. It's not the best movie that was made in 2016. And I can say that while also saying that I enjoyed it. Yeah. And that there were a lot of, like, as you said, accomplishments in the filmmaking.

Yeah. Like, tied for the most Oscar nominations ever is a lot. One thing that's like, I feel like it should have. have an asterisk because it has like his four best song nominations, right? Does it? I thought it was two. Oh, maybe it is. I was like, I thought it was like all in that category.

You're probably right. I'm looking. It's two original songs. Oh, right, two original songs. And then original score. And then I think those are all that. That kind of like, that's like juicing your stats. That's like playing during garbage time because you're a musical.

Of course, you're going to be nominated for those categories. Like, I don't know. I feel like it's not fair. But anyway, I really want Lynn Manuel. Miranda to get the Egot one day, and he's also nominated for Best Song, Oscar. He needs the Oscar. He's got the Emmy and the Grammy. Sorry, he's got the Grammy and the Tony right now. I want him to get the Oscar and he's just not going to this year, so that makes me mad. Well, here, devil's advocate, don't you think the two La LaLan songs cancel each other out?

Interesting. I just think they'll split the vote. I think City of Stars will just take it. I mean, probably? You're playing it on your keyboard. It's got a lot of appeal. That's true. I am playing it on my keyboard. Can I like at least explain that? Yes, you can. Which is I got a keyboard for Christmas because I used to play the piano when I was younger, like rediscovering whatever, blah, blah, blah. Essentially, I couldn't stop singing City of Stars, and it really annoyed my family. And so instead of stopping the singing of City of Stars, which is what a normal person would do,

I learned how to play it on the keyboard to torment my loved ones. That is a summary of my home life. There we go. Great. But I'm available for weddings and bar mitzvahs, just get in touch. Was it hard to find the directions or like the sheet meets? or the tutorial? No, actually.

No, it was, um... YouTube? No, they just put sheet music. Like, they're a bunch of amateur people just adapting and making sheet music. It's a really vibrant sheet music community on the internet. I bet. I bet. Have you learned any other songs lately?

I tried to learn... So, somehow I got in an argument. It started with an argument about silence, and then it turned into an argument about Scorsese and Goodfellas and Layla. So I was like, what I'm going to do. I don't know why I wanted to learn the second. and half of Layla. But I did.

And I got as far as, like, finding some sheet music. But it's really hard. It has, like, eight sharps and it has, like, eight flats. Oh, man. And also, it's definitely made, my hands were not big enough to play the Lela. It's the patriarchy, you know, keep me down. Sure. Sure.

As per usual. I'm also happy that Octavia Spencer got nominated for him figures. I really like, that's, like, probably my second favorite movie of the year. I am extremely excited about it. I was slightly disappointed that... Taraji? Well, Taraji, yes, in Best Actress, and also that there wasn't really a chance

that Janemone would get nominated, but I think that she should have. Sure. I thought everyone in that movie was great. Just a charming movie. Great stuff. Listen to Sean Fentasy's interview, Ted Melfy. Yeah, it was very nice.

Yes, it was great. I'm just sort of like ready for the Oscars to be over. I feel like there's been so much... Because of the Birth of a Nation controversy, there's been discussion of the 27 Austin 17 Oscars for so long. I'm just ready to move on for that. Yeah, it's like a six-month season at this point.

It's ridiculous. It's just like, I don't know, the Oscars, no offense, people, they just don't mean enough to warrant six months of discussion. Are you excited for the, you're not excited for the ceremony? With Jimmy Kimmel? I'm mildly excited.

I'm excited for Kimmel. I thought he did a great job at the Emmys, actually. Yeah, he did. I was more talking about caliber of the nominees and also any potential. I mean, how many Merrill speeches do you think we'll get? at least one right yeah yeah at least um i am think that it's gonna be very political yeah um which i'm kind of looking forward to because that's like just more interesting um even if you don't agree

necessarily which i probably will but um that just makes more interesting i guess i'm looking forward to the show i do think the kind of you just touched on this the quality of stars kind of low this year yeah i think you know a lot of people expected deadpool to get nominated because it was kind of the best of the successful movies this year, and it didn't. And I am personally quite at peace with that. But it does, there's not really like a lot of mainstream, not a lot of super famous people in the mix.

I mean, okay, hold on. Denzel Washington is nominated, so we're great in that category. You know, there are some actors and actresses. but not, I guess Hidden Figures is probably the most box office successful. Yeah, probably, right? Which is great. Yeah. Yeah, there's not a huge, huge, huge.

There's no George, Ben, Matt, Brad. Though they might be there for Manchester. And Plan B did Moonlight. So Brad Hill will be there for that. So yeah, it'll be fine. I'm actually looking forward to the Grammys, not that Bruno Mars is. performing. I can't wait. Of course. The Brno Mar stage show is like my favorite thing in entertainment, so I'm really looking forward to it. I'm also looking forward to Lady Gaga at the Super Bowl.

Are you? Yeah, she's a showwoman. I think you're the only person. I also really liked the new album, so like I'm looking forward to it. I didn't even mind the new album, but I just really, we're doing this again. I like it. I view her as Elton John as a woman, and I'm cool with it. I'm excited. It's the only thing about the Super Bowl I'm excited about. Go Falcons. I'm You're thrilled for the Super Bowl. I know you are. You just love the pageantry of football. I just see how this is not.

This is, and I'm not excited for Lady Gaga. It's just not my cup of tea. Next, DTR. Are they dating? Kendall Jenner and Aesap Rocky have been seen together in Paris or Paris Fashion Week. I feel like it's always Paris Fashion Week, by the way. It is. Why is it not Paris Fashion Week?

But apparently it's like officially now with women. Well, right now it's, no, it's men's right? For men, right? Yeah. Right. And they've been seen around town. They've been seen in L.A. quite a bit. I believe in this couple.

Okay. I believe that they're casual. They're not like, I bet they have not, even though we are DTRing them, they themselves have not DTR. Yeah, they have not DTR. But I think they have an on off thing. I'm going through an extensive timeline of the sightings. So we have one, two, three, four, five, five sightings together in public total since June. That's kind of a lot for a card.

for Kendall. That's true. She's definitely been seen with Harry Styles in that interval as well. Okay, that's completely fake. Okay. You really think so? 100% sure. I remember the first time they were seen together in Runyon Canyon.

Yeah, it was Runyon. Okay. That's where you go to be photographed. They're probably really good friends. Sure, that's true. They're like, you can't separate that from a Kardashian. Their whole existence is that go places to be photographed. That's true.

But she was like sub-18 at that point. It was 2013. So it was like three and a half years ago. Okay. I know because it was the same week that I met Harry, which I off discussed. That's a great photograph. Can we put it on the Twitter again? Every single time.

Listen. Does five dates over six months that we know of, to be fair, to be that we know of, make a relationship? A relationship, no, but a thing, yes. Okay. It's a thing. Okay. That's my take. I feel okay with that.

Here's what I have to say. He's New York based, she's L.A. based. So, you know, tricky schedules. So we have two things to say. One, in keeping with our 2017 resolution, to speak honestly, about celebrity. I do feel like the coverage of this has been pretty honest. Yeah. It's like, oh, maybe they are, maybe they aren't.

Like, there's something going on. So I would commend the world at large for keeping a cool head. and not putting pressure on them. I think we have a decent handle, which is like maybe, yeah, it's a thing. I think that also TMZ is the leader on this one. And while they do take stories from the Kardashians, I don't think they take many Kendall stories from the Kardashians. Oh, interesting.

I think they mostly do the three Kardashians sisters, Chloe, Courtney and Kim. Really Chloe and Kim. So I kind of have inclined to be like, yeah, the thing. Okay. Also, Azaff Rocky is one of the most handsome men alive at the moment. Yeah, it's really great. He's just so handsome. And I like his music.

I was going to say between Rocky and Harris-Diles Kendall has excellent taste. Yes, she does. She really does. Even if it's all fake. And Chandler Parsons. Don't forget Chandler. And Chandler Parsons, sure. Okay.

Last item of the day. One thing that you just can't stop thinking about. Would you like to go first? I'd love to. This one's a little obscure. Okay. At The Ringer, we have a Slack Channel devoted to celebrity gossip. It's our favorite channel

As we do, we're leaders in that space Yesterday, two ringer, maybe it was earlier this week, two ringer staff members Alyssa and Allison Davis Out of nowhere shared that Ariana Grande is their top celebrity. I was shocked by that. Is their top pop star? I can't believe that.

She is a, literally, I'm quoting Alyssa, a perfect pop star. Lots of putting her above Rihanna. They might not realize they were doing that, but they have. And I asked them to expand and explain And I also gave them plenty of opportunity to say, I mean this after Beyonce, Rihanna, et cetera. They didn't take that opportunity. I don't know. I think that they both are huge fans of Beyonce and Rihanna, and I shouldn't totally out them.

But they are fascinated with Ariana Grande. They think she is relatable. And obviously, Donut Gate was interesting. I like Ariana Grande. I really liked that first album of hers. I thought Donate Gay was hysterical. Mm-hmm. I liked her first album a lot, by the way.

I agree. It's very good, and she is clearly talented. You know, I like it when people do impressions. She's, you know, she'll have a great Las Vegas residency. Yeah, but to have her be the number one pop star? I know. I have been thinking a lot about that. I've been interrogating my own feelings about Ariana Grande.

Is like, is there something that I am missing? Right. I feel similarly. I actually think that she's talented, but I think she seems like a spoiled brat. I don't know. The being carried around thing. Oh, I forgot about the being carried around.

Yeah. That was very... That was just weird. And like, I don't know. I don't like people who aren't self-sufficient. Sure. Flip side of that, like, that's interesting. Maybe her feet hurt.

Right. No, I was going to say, like, at least that's a very weird, funny fact about someone that we have, which tends to make me like someone more. Like, the weirder and more ridiculous you are, the more you stay in my consciousness. Right. She's quite talented. Got to give her that. She's also incredibly, literally millions of Instagram followers.

She's incredibly popular. She has a top five song on the radio, like always. I cannot stand side to side. That song is always playing, though. I know. Literally always. It's the number one Uber radio song. I can't stand it.

I really like some of her other tunes, though. I mean, the one with The Weekend was great. She's got a lot of good songs. She's very good. I was just really surprised to hear that people in our midst thought she was the number one. Yeah, particularly because Alyssa and Allison are close to our age, and I think the demo for Ariana Grande is a little bit younger because they watched her on Nickelodeon on Sam and Cat. Remember the fight with Jeanette McCarty?

She's just had a lot. She's a rich text. There's a lot to go off of. It's true. So I think what I mean, the one thing I can't stop thinking about is that I have not been thinking enough about Ariana. That's kind of what I realized. I'm like, oh, there's a lot going on. And it's really been kind of eating at me.

So I'm going to spend some time. Maybe we'll do an Ariana episode later this year. That'd be great. We'll both really get to know her. Sounds great. We could do like an article, like 10 things you didn't know about Ariana Grande. That's great. Just do some deep research.

Mine's quite different. Okay. I have been thinking a lot about Bradley Cooper. Wow. as the lone white guy at the BET Love and Happiness Celebration at the White House that Dave Chappelle described in his opening monologue on Saturday Night Live back in November. And we just haven't heard a lot from Bradley Cooper these days. His GF is Preggs, presumably with his child, although who knows.

And his GF is Ronaldo's ex. I're going to shake. And I just kind of can't believe Bradley Cooper is going to be a dad. He kind of was in the Clooney zone for me of like forever. a bachelor, really genial, good actor, whatever. And I just can't believe he's going to be a dad. It's just a really weird thing. Bradley Cooper is going to have a child, and that's forever.

Yeah, that's really weird. Bradley Cooper, like, until three years ago was living at home with his mom. Yeah, I mean, they're... I'm not a huge Bradley Cooper fan. You're right. It's hard to imagine him, like, getting down on a kid's level and being like, hey, kid, how are you? You're mine.

You are my son or daughter, and I'm, I'm going to relate to you. Like, you can imagine George Clooney doing that far more easily than you can Bradley Cooper. Speaking of which, have we heard any more on whether... We haven't. Okay. George Clooney and... Amal are having babies.

We don't know. I still think yes. Okay. But the thing about Bradley Cooper and George Clooney's very apt, I feel like he's kind of in the middle of his peak. Like, if all of these, like, perennial bachelors, if, like, Clooney's the kind of one of the OGs, he's kind of like in his still, like, at his Clooney peak right now, of being a bachelor.

Like, he's still, like, in George Clooney, circa Ocean's 11 zone for me. Wow. Like, in terms of the arc of his bachelorness. I just can't believe he doesn't have a kid. I just can't believe it. And I don't know. Like, his life is just so confusing to me, Bradley Cooper's,

that I just, like, wonder what he does on a day-to-day basis more than other celebrities. He's not been, like, around. I know. I know. It's sort of like, did you fight David O. Russell? Like, what's going on, man? Has he been spotted at the other?

Australian Open? Or does he only do Wimbledon? I don't know. That's a great question. I don't know if he travels to the southern hemisphere. I have no evidence of that so far. Yeah. Also, like, you know, last year this time was an American sniper, right? Or is that two years ago? I think that was two years ago. Well, yeah, he's just sort of been quiet since then. Joy didn't really go the way that he was open for. Yeah. So Bradley Cooper, I'm thinking about you. And Ariana Grande, we're going to revisit you.

Sounds great. Thanks for listening, everyone. Thank you, Matthew Good. Thank you, Matthew Good. Have a great week.