The Press Box - Ep. 264: 'Jam Session' With Juliet Litman and Amanda Dobbins

Episode Date: February 22, 2017

The Ringer's Juliet Litman and Amanda Dobbins discuss Harrison Ford's flying skills (5:00), Malia Obama's sabbatical (10:00), the Clooney twins (18:00), Kirsten Dunst's Soho apartment (23:00), Miles Teller's birthday party (32:00), and Eileen Fisher's morning routine (37:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Podsurvey.com slash J-A-M for Juliet and Amanda. Thank you very much for your help. Welcome to Jam Session. I'm Juliet Lippman. I'm Amanda Dobbins. The Oscars are not here yet. They're on Sunday. So that means we have a clear docket to discuss much more fun things than award season stuff. It's personal interest week.

Yeah, it's personal interest week. We're going to be talking about the confirmation of the Clooney Twins, which we suspected on this podcast because we knew how to read the tea leaves. I'm very excited. We're talking about Kirsten Dunst's new home. I'm like number one passion at home that she's selling. Yes. Presumably there is a new one. And Malia Obama's Gapier, what she's doing with her time.

Making the best choices. Totally. Of course, I'll also talk about the things we can't stop thinking about. And we'll DTR. But first, biggest news of the day. and last week, Harrison Ford is a very poor pilot, apparently. My man. It's not the time.

No more flying. Who's your favorite Harrison Ford? Oh, Working Girl. Okay. Working Girl Harrison Ford is iconic. It's a great movie. It's really funny to go back and watch now. Alec Baldwin's haircut, it's hilarious.

I mean, I will start singing Let the River Run right now if we keep going on this. That would be a good role for Ryan Reynolds. I think he should remake Working Girl and he should be the lead. He should be Harrison Ford. Yeah. Who would you cast in... Melody Griffith's role? Not Dakota.

Do not bring Dakota into this space. No, it wouldn't be here. This is an anti-Dakota space. Who would I make the Working Girl role? Hmm, that's a great question. I don't know. Who's like a on the verge kind of actress that's, like, worthy of it? But also, young.

Oh, I got it. Brie Larson. Yeah. She's like a little too... She's a little too punchy, Well, to type A for my interest. Okay. Who else?

That's so hard. Do you think it needs to be someone who's just like Melanie Griffith? No, I think it would actually be interesting to watch it from a different perspective. Sure. Like, what about, I mean, this is a bad suggestion. I don't stand by it. What about like Allison Williams? No.

Absolutely not. You have to want to root for the person, which is true. Allison Williams has embraced unlikable roles, but I don't actually. want to watch or anything. We'll come back to this. It's just, it's a, it's a tough one. You know who would be good? Gina Rodriguez.

Oh, I like that. Yeah. That's a good idea. Likeable, right age. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. I like that.

Okay, back to Harrison Ford. Okay. So he is a pilot. Last year he had a crash and he was fine, but he was injured. And now he's back to flying and he, like, missed the runway when he was landing in Santa Monica. Not only did he miss the runway. He just, he went on the wrong runway, which turned out to be a, not a runway, but what do they call it a taxiway? Yes.

Which means that his like tiny little yellow plane, like straight out of English patient comes incredibly close to a commercial American Airlines jetliner that's waiting to take off. And then he's like on the cobbing like, oh, was I supposed to go? Was that plane supposed to be there? Harrison Ford. Get it together. This is not even Harrison Ford's first plane incident in the past five years. Yeah. No, this is bad.

Listen, you know. What does it take to get your pilot's license revoked? I mean, this. The reports today because the video footage of Harrison Ford's, like, tiny little toy plane, which honestly looks like a little kid is landing a toy plane on a Lego set. surprised he didn't want to get a bigger one. Well, I mean, I think, I'm sure he has several different aircraft. You're right.

He says he's driving, piloting a helicopter. Right. Which, I mean, okay. He doesn't even know what he's in. Right. So there are a couple different things here, including Harrison Ford's general alertness, which, you know, I'm not saying anything other than I have seen the David Blaine special featuring Harrison Ford.

And like, and I know what Harrison Ford, what I think Harrison Ford likes to do on his downtime. and, you know, maybe we shouldn't be doing that in piloting planes at the same time. Sure. Do you want to give any clarification what you think he's doing on his downtime? I mean, listen, it's my favorite clip because David Blaine is in Harrison Ford's kitchen. He pulls a card out of an orange. Oh, God. And Harrison Ford looks astonished, but also, like, he has been enjoying the natural bounty that this earth has to offer.

I see. If you will. Sure. That's a great way putting it. I'm just, that's an observation. I have no confirmation. I just want to say I would not invite a magician into my home. I wouldn't want, like, tricks being done in my home.

Like, I would just like for my home to be my sanctuary where there's not David Blaine, like, pulling cards out of random places or who knows what else. It just doesn't appeal to me. Would you go? Do you seek out magic castle? I enjoyed it. I've never been. Oh, it's fun. Like, I want to go.

It's fun. I once was wearing a leather jacket, a lot of zippers on it, and they made me take it off because. it was in effect like the magnets of the various tricks that the magicians do. Oh, yeah, that's kind of disappointing. Yeah, kind of. And then it was cold, but it's okay. Anyway, back to Harrison Ford. Listen, so I have no, that's just a video that I saw once and enjoyed.

I have no idea what was going on with Harrison Ford when he was at the wheel of this plane? What would you say? Yeah, I guess. At the steering mechanism. At the joystick? Sure. of this plane. The transcript in the video does not

make it seem like he's in full control of the situation. No. Which is not great. He needs to stop flying planes. But also, like, what else do you think he does all day? I don't understand Harrison Ford's life. I can't imagine what it's like to be both Indiana Jones and Han Solo. Well, he

definitely has magicians come to house. Definitely. Hanged out with Colissa Flokar his way. Exactly. He's in Blade Runner. He's in the new Blade Runner with Ryan. Right. Gosling that's out this fall. So he's, I mean...

He's busy. He's sort of busy. He's definitely, like, taken a check because he's got nothing better to do. He's terrorizing journalists a lot, which is fun. Yeah, I mean, I would be so angry if I was on the American Airlines plane, Harrison Ford, just almost hit us. They said that the American Airlines plane took off a few minutes later without incident, because...

Without another incident. Yeah, it's not good. I don't know why being a pilot's appealing to... to people. Like, I don't really get, want, like, if I'm, like, really rich and can do anything, why I want to, like, put myself in harm's way. It's not something I would do. Are there any women who were, like, I would love to be a pilot.

I'm rich. I think it's particularly now. I do think that Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt took joint. That's kind of cool. Pilot lessons together. Classic Jolie move. In a different time. What a power move.

I'm also. Did you happen to see the film 20th Century Women? No, I would like to. It's nice. I don't think it's spoiling. anything to tell you that at some point the Endette Benning character doesn't take an interest in flying. Interesting.

And Amelia Earhart. Yes. And she's actually wearing the Amelia Earhart goggles. That's funny. Yeah. I mean, I guess it's a man thing. It's a major plot point in the crown, not to, you know, oversell the crowd or anything. That he really wants to be a pilot.

Right. It's his most important thing. Right. But it's like how he can experience, like, freedom and control, which are two things that men seem to be interested in, in my experience. Certainly. Or via watching art. Certainly the ones in England involved in the monarchy.

That's for sure. That's for sure. Harrison Ford, please stay out of the skyways. I don't like it. I think... This is a wrap on his pilot's career. Yeah, the variety article that I read today suggested that he would soon no longer be flying planes that they would invest the investigation.

Good. Probably will not work out in his favor. I don't know. Again, not a pilot or an aviation official, just a project. person who watched a YouTube video and was like, what the fuck, Harrison Ford? I can't believe how small his plane was. Sounds like a euphemism, but I really mean it. It's true, though.

I mean, there might be, like, the perspectives of this particular air control video might be messing with us a little. It looks like a toy plane that, like, David Blaine did some magic on and, like, it grew, but, like, he not, like, big enough or something like that. Like, I don't know. It was really a surprise. And yellow. Let's at least get red.

I like the yellow. It's like the plane in the English patient anyway. Okay. So no one should be taking after the plane of the English patient. So great point. Let's move on to our former first daughter, Malia Obama. I just, I'm so, I'm not even proud. I can't take ownership.

I have nothing but respect and admiration for how Malia is living her life. Page six is very carefully chronicling what she's doing in her gap year, which is right now. because she didn't want to start college while her father or still the president. Makes sense. Sure. First of all, Amanda, what would you do if you had a gap year? Like now or when I was 18? When you were 18.

I mean, I have so many answers for now. Do I, if I were 18, I probably would have been like, I need to go to a different country and, like, learn language and, you know, be immersed in a culture. and then I was bad at being away from home, so I would have been like, I probably would have spent my gap year crying in a different country. Interesting.

I've probably done something similar. I probably would have gone to Paris, knowing myself. Yeah. I would do that now, too. Sounds great. It would definitely be one of my stops. I mean, we could do a different podcast and what Amanda's gap year in 2017 would look like.

Sure. And a big sale to fund it. Malia Obama has been doing a lot of things. This is what we know so far. So she went on a secret trip to Bolivia. where she was like hiking or whatever and the people on the trip didn't know who she was like the guides were told

there was like someone really famous on the trip but they thought it was like some blonde girl classic Bolivians or something and she just like did two months of like trekking and like service and I think Bolivia and Peru but Barack Obama even made the state call to the president of Bolivia to approve it

because we do not have a diplomatic relationship with Bolivia right now. Sorry it was then as well and not Bolivia. It was then as well in Peru. Okay. And of course we don't have a diplomatically, she was then as well. So that was one stop. Then she was next scene in January at Sundance at the film festival, including at a Dakota Access Pipeline protest, which is incredible. She's already civic engagement, whether you agree the cause or not. It's great to have your voice mean something. Good job, Malia. And then she's back in New York. She's interning for the Weinstein

Company. And where has she been in New York? Well, she has been, listen, I don't want to say, partying because every single page 6 report is very clear to note that when Malia is spotted at the club, she is not drinking. She's just drinking red ball. Disgusting. Which, God bless. I originally was sitting at a table. It was like the morning.

It was a work event. And there was a red bull in my vicinity and I could smell it and I was nauseated. Did you ever do the phase of like the Red Bull and tequila? No. I did not either. Disgusting. I, in college freshman year, we had orange Gatorade with vodka. which is one of the most disgusting things in the world.

I'm embarrassed to have done that. That's... Like, my stomach actually responded. I'm sure I drank something like that. Oh, you know. We also had Orange Gatorian and Bucardi O. Oh, my God. Disgusting.

So many disgusting things that I was 19. Oh. I know. But Melia's not doing that. She's just having Red Bull. So she was at the Girls Party. Yeah. Some firsthand reports from the Girls Party in New York.

Let's see. Not for mine. She seemed to be having a great time, and she was a pretty time. and she was apparently wearing like a Betsy Johnson-ish, like 90s Betsy Johnson outfit and looked fantastic. She has very long legs and she wears short dresses often and just looks great in them with like boots. Like not, she dresses very well. Yes. She was apparently at a fashion week after party with Jenna Lyons.

Really? Yeah. She was, I don't know, some other bar in Soho that I've never heard of. Interesting. Soho bar. Let's tease that out a little. That must be a hotel bar, right? Don't you think?

I guess it's called the Black Lodge. I'm going to Google it. Yeah. And then she was apparently in the VIP section of Up and Down Friday. Oh, interesting. Or up and down is up and down and Friday is when she was there. Listen, it's been one year and I know nothing about the clubs. Everyone knows up and down because that's where Rihanna was,

the night of the elevator incident at the Met Ball. And that's where Jay-Z was reportedly wanting to go. And that's when Rihanna and Jay Z had a fight. Yeah. Then Black Lodge is across is like, is very firmly in the East Village. It's not really Soho. I mean, it's like technically so. What's giving me the coordinates?

East of Lafayette. It's on Elizabeth and Prince. Oh, God. Where Sweet and Vicious used to be? Yes, so, oh, fine. No, it's like Nolita technically. Yeah. There was a terrible bar right there.

Oh, I wonder if it's the one. Okay. Now we know. Now I know. Now we know where she is. This is pretty fancy area from Leo Obama. Everything she's doing is very fancy. I don't know why that I'm kind of bummed that she's fancy.

I just like, I would never, I'm still not this cool, right? I'm not. I'm like having to Google what the name of the club is. At 18, how could you have possibly known to make all of these good choices? It reminds me of the royal family of like Beatrice and Eugenie and like, I don't know. I just feel like she's very royal in the kind of a way that I don't like. Yeah, but they go to like fucking Soho House. I'm very judgy.

Like, I like Malia and I love the Obamas. But I'm just like, this is interesting. It's just sort of like not what I would have guessed. But I mean, I guess it makes sense. The Bush daughters are the same thing. They just, there's less social media to know about it. Yeah, that's true. I think this is great.

I wish that I had had a friend like Malia at 18 who teach me how to be this cool because I definitely was not. It's cool. She's hanging out with Jen Alliance. Yeah, I mean, it's very cool for her. It's a little try hard for me. Genet Lions. Genetian is really deep in, like, the Lena Dunham world.

So Malia was an intern on girls. Yes. And then General Lyons did, like, custom bridesmaids outfits for Audrey Galman's wedding, which I read about in Vogue. Not commenting. Which Lena Dunham wore. Okay. And now she's hanging out.

I just feel like Jenna Lyons is circling the kind of Taylor Swift, Lena Dunham world of, like, cool girls. I mean, I think it's all intertwined. There's, like, a certain very specific New York creative, quote, cool girls. Sure. little scene that's much more insular than, you know, it gets a lot of press exposure for the amount of people that are in it or how much it matters to anyone outside of it. Well, it matters to me.

I mean, we're talking about it. But so she's clearly affiliated with that world and it's hanging out with them. Yeah, it's pretty wild. She's going to be cool. Do you think college would kind of come down for her? She's like, oh, now I'm here, stuck at Harvard in Cambridge? I mean, yes. It's definitely not going to be as like hip, although, I don't know.

I guess she'll like hanging out with her peers, perhaps. It seems like she's with a lot of adults right now. That's very true. Which I can kind of relate to. When I was a kid, I used to like to hang out with adults. But so here's an interesting thing, and you maybe, being a child of New York, I don't know whether you experienced this at college, but like the city kids always, first year in college, right?

Yeah. The city kids, all the kids from New York City definitely like hang out together. Sure. And I're like, listen, we have been much cooler than you for a long time and we grew up faster. I definitely drank more in high school than I did in college. college. Right. So do you think that she will, having spent this time in New York, like, have a city kid mentality, or will she be like, yes, I'd love to go to the ice cream social with you? With like our, what are they called the people who live in the dorm, the dorm advisors? Yeah, RAs. Like Noel Crane from Felicity? Yes, exactly.

I don't know. That's so tough. The thing about, I don't know, Harvard has so many rarefied children, though, you know, that I'm sure she'll find the kind of like other people who didn't have normal lives. with the city kids to answer your question. They're kind of like... Also, she'll probably be the other kids who took a gap year. I don't know, but at the top of my head, I bet Harvard has more freshmen who've taken a gap year than any other school. Probably. It's like a rich person thing to do. Yeah. So, I don't know.

Just an idea. I think she's doing great. I do too. And also, it just seems like she is really social and, like, well-adjusted. Shout out to Barack and Michelle for raising two seemingly great daughters. Yes, good people raising good. children. And like wear cool hip clothes that are still appropriate.

Like nothing slutty. It's true. Sometimes like I look at like the daughters of like the real housewives and like I'm just like how do they dress like this? Because their mothers are housewives. I wouldn't let them out of the house like that. Real housewives. I don't mean to denigrate actual housewives. I'm scared of teenagers. It's true. I'm scared of teenagers but I'm not

scared of Malia. So I think I can't say something. Like teenagers freak me out because I just feel like they like live in a different world. I think Malia just really clearly has a very strong sense of what she wants to do and what she's interested in. Yeah. Which I did not have at 18.

Me neither. I don't really... Barely had it at 28. Yeah, I was going to say. Yeah, there we go. Great job, Malia. I hope you're enjoying New York. It's a hell of a town.

It really is. As they say. Yeah. Okay. What's next? The Clooney's? The Clooney twins. The Clooney twins.

It's confirmed. George and them all are having twins. How do you feel about that? I feel great about it. But I can't believe George Clinton is going to be a dad after all this time. Last night I was catching up on the three-hour Paley Center tribute to NBC on its 90th anniversary. Yeah, could you expand on that little? I saw that second.

I didn't follow up. I'd like to follow up IRL. Well, thanks for asking. I'd approve nothing. NBC had a three-hour special, which was a tribute to itself. And it was just like a highlight reel of its various shows. I only watched about 20 minutes before falling asleep, but I planned to watch it. watch the whole thing.

And it was like talking about how great friends was and how great Seinfeld was. I fell asleep during the Frazier portion. And I really just wanted to watch it because I knew there would be like a substantial ER segment. Oh, yeah. So I got to watch to get to that. I don't know why NBCU is celebrating itself and no one else took note. But three hours is really long for a special, like really long.

It's very true. I can't believe they did that. Three hours is long for anything. I know. Movies out of the question. So, yeah. Anyway, they kept showing George during the, like, kind of like the intro and outro bumpers, because as Doug Ross, and I just can't believe Doug Ross has kids.

He's been in my life for so long, George. And it's exciting, but just wild. He was like The Bachelor for so long. Yeah, I mean, the number of interviews that he gave about not wanting to be married or have children, listen. People change. People changed late in life, it would seem. Yeah, and he found them all.

Changed his mind. Congrats to them. Babies are great. If they want them, they seem ready to provide a happy home. You know. I wonder who their famous friends will be. Like, obviously the Damans and the Athlex are friends, you know, the kids? Yes.

That's one of the reasons Matt Damon cited moving to L.A., so that his kids will be close to Aplex? Right. Who will George Clooney's twins be friends live? Well, I think it depends on where they live. I was reading an article today because George Clooney is receiving some sort of award in France. Great. Like a Cesar award. I don't know.

their version of the Oscars. Okay. Whatever. It's award season, y'all. Right. So he had to give an interview in order to receive the quid pro quo and was asked about the twins. And he was pointing out that they, you know, for the first couple years, they will be able to live. This is so ridiculous.

Between America, England, and Italy. But, you know, at some point they'll have to decide where to settle and put the children in school. Like, listening to George Clooney talk about. his children's school choices. I don't know. It's not, it doesn't add up in my head still. He doesn't. It's just two separate parts of my brain and never the twain shall meet, you know? Totally.

It seems like he's not really read. Also, like there's a level of privacy needed for children like that. I feel like that he's not ready for. They do a good job, though. I mean, they have their estates and their level of like. That's true. Like, Como, you can't get close. Yeah.

They should not be American kids. They'd be cooler if they were European. Agree. They should definitely live in Europe or London or something like that. I agree. You know who's like really on the scene these days? Kaya Gerber, daughter of Cindy Crawford. Very true.

She's around. She's beautiful and she looks a lot like her mom. The whole family. The son also looks a ton like Sydney. Yeah. Strong jeans. Yeah, it was her birthday recently. So there were a lot of like pictures from on Instagram of their family celebration.

And it's crazy. It's just like three Cindy Crawfords and then like Randy. And then a guy who makes tequila basically. It's crazy. Kaya Gerber is definitely going to be like the cool. older girl in the Clooney twins of life, like Aunt Kaya, because Randy and George are so tight. Yes, that's true. Because of Casamigos.

Sure. House of friends. Yes, nowhere. I've seen the picture. The most shocking celebrity endorsement thing I've ever seen is when, like, I randomly saw a Casamigos delivery truck, like, in Brooklyn, and their faces are on the side of the truck. It's very surprising.

They're kind of, like, low-key about it otherwise. Exactly. Casamigos is a great Instagram follow. Highly recommend it. Highly, highly highly recommend it. I think I thought that was like a kind of a joke in the tequila world, but now I think people actually like it and drink it. I have seen it allowed in Los Angeles, which I always just figured was like a starfucker

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Yeah. Okay. So this is combining a number, like basically all my favorite interests. Are you ready? Yes, please. Break it down for us. I mean, as you know, I am a passionate observer of celebrity real estate. Yes.

Which in general. I like to know what's going on. I am a Kirsten Nets fan. She's great. She's great. You know why? Okay. Quick side note.

Please. Mona Lisa Smile, one of the worst movies ever made. is on Netflix. But I was like, I literally haven't seen this since it came out. And I'm curious. I mean, it's got Julia Stiles. Maggie Gillenhall, Kierston Dunst, Jennifer Goodwin. What a freaking cast?

That they just poured down the drain. And Julia Roberts. And Julia Roberts and Dominic West. Incredible. I had 20 minutes the other day, so I was watching it. And it was worse than I remembered. However, Kierston Dunst, once again, just playing the total bitch. And it's just, I really appreciate someone who can be that good at being that mean.

I know. She's always willing to take on the job, too. She doesn't shy away from it. I respect it. So Kirsten Dunst, another of my passions. And then I just have to say, the reason I want to talk about this real estate listing, and I will share the link to the... It's from a website I've never heard of before.

Did you know this website? No, I have another. Mansionglobal.com. I'll share the link so that everyone can look at the photograph. Right. You know, obviously, real estate photographs are staged when people are selling, et cetera. So you can't figure, you know, you can't read too closely. But this is one of the nicest kitchens I've ever seen.

It's really good. It's like a Nancy Myers-level kitchen in a celebrity home that is Kirsten Nunts. It's like, you know, I discovered this on Friday and really just had to take a moment for myself. It has incredible light fixtures. Right. Well, here's what I was going to say. I should give credit to my husband who went through every single one of these photos

because I stood over him and made him but he was like, Edison bulbs are not, you know, they're a little played out at at this point. Sure. But you have to assume that Kiki did these renovations like five years ago. Yeah, absolutely. So she was ahead of it.

So she's ahead of the curve. Chris Ryan was really astonished to see that she was able to find a microwave that fit just under the ledge of the window. It is really impressive. It's really everything is coming together here. It's like a deep sea blue-green covered colored cabinets that are beautiful. Yeah. Really into it.

The handles on the-cairang, obviously. Viking range, obviously. I would love to cook in this kitchen. A powder blue tea kettle. And it's inviting as well as, you know, clearly a great cooking space. Yeah. It's a really nice home. It also has hardwood floors and exposed brick.

It's like really big, really big windows. It's really nice. It's only two bedrooms and $3 million. I think it will. She bought it for three and now it's five. Oh, you're right. Sorry. She bought it for three.

Two badges for $3 million. That's fucking crazy. She does have river views, however. In 2007. That's just so expensive. Yeah. Well, that's right before the crash, too. She probably regretted it.

Well, she's, listen, she waited it out, and here we are. It's really nice. And you and I are just given free advertising for her kitchen on a podcast. She has really nice built-in shelves as well. And she does, like, the cool designer thing of, like, mostly books and then a few trinkets here and there. And the books are not color-coordinated. Yeah, thank God. I don't like that.

I don't either. I prefer to do by size and, like, genre and feeling. Honestly, even I would, these chairs look comfortable. The couch looks comfortable. You never see that. Like, you would actually want to sit on those. It's not the fucking Peggy from Whatsoll. Can we talk about that for a second, by the way?

Sure. Sure. There was an article on the all by a woman named Anna Hazel. Okay. I hope I'm saying her last name correctly. And it was about a particular couch that West Elm sells called the Peggy Couch and how crappy the couch is and how she discovered a whole community of people on the internet

who like really hate the peggy couch and like when they would post a picture on on Instagram the comments go crazy. It was like this cult phenomenon that she exposed and wrote about. West Elm is pulling the peggy couch and offering a refund to anyone who bought a couch since 2014

which is incredible. That's awesome. Journalism works. That's awesome. In this one specific instance only but journalism works. Also thank you to West Elm that's really considered of your customers. It was such bad press. They had to do it, and it's very smart of them. That's really funny.

Yeah, so I really enjoyed that. That's great. Part of the reason, the couch falls apart, but also it's not that comfortable. And this is what I'm saying. The mid-century fancy couches that you see in a lot of these types of photographs, you don't actually want to sit on that. I want to sit on Kirsten Dunst's couch. That's what I have.

I want to lie down on it. It looks really like a great place to take a nap because it's like right in the sun. It looks delightful. She's got a great apartment. I hope she has a nice life. Also, the bedroom is really big. Yeah. I don't know if you noticed that.

This is great. I think that we should, you know, put our funds together and the funds of everyone listening to this podcast and all your friends. Maybe Malia Obama wants to go on it with us. From looking at this page, I was also directed to Meg Ryan Soho Lof that she was selling. Oh. And how's that going? It's interesting because it looks like a California Pacific Palisades staged home that she just put into a New York like penthouse, which is hard to do.

It has a lot of wood. Wait, can you turn a computer on so I can see it? Wood painted black, yeah. Oh, yeah, we did look at this. It's nice, though, but it just looks like California. I think that's kind of a strange choice. It's California with like maybe too much black. Too much black and too much reliance on clocks,

which is like a real pottery barn thing. Yeah. That just has kind of exploded. Totally. Totally. But I was surprised at Meg Ryan that this was her style. I don't know. It kind of reminds me of it.

the movie with Kevin Klein that she's in. I was like, oh, yeah, that's what that character would have had. No big deal. I think that was called, like, French Kiss. Okay, it's time for our weekly segments. Amanda, it's time to DTR. Yes. Okay, so Anthony Bourdain has a new girlfriend.

Oh, my God. Yes. This is, you know the Oscars are coming because no one wants to debut a new relationship before the red carpet. Because then they'll, like, get asked about it. So it's a real lull for a celebrity dating. You cannot be seen with a new person, like, in between the lobes in the Oscars. That's very true, because then it just opens up a whole can of worms.

Very bad. Yes. So this one, this segment goes out to a jam session friend, Chris Ryan, who came into my office yesterday and was like, the greatest thing that's ever happened to me in the gossip sphere is that Anthony Bourdain is dating a new woman, an Italian actress named Asia Argento. And the reason that this was so exciting is because essentially Anthony Bordane, was previously married to another Italian woman who then developed like a serious interest in MMA and like went to the deep end. Not to the deep end.

I shouldn't say that. Follow your dreams. Follow your dreams wherever they lead you, including MMA. But I think that their marriage could not like... Could sustain it? Their marriage was not built around her MMA interests and pursuits. And I think that there did, you know, there was some tension.

Sure. So the marriage ended and then he just went and like, like re-opt with the next version, which is, I mean, I understand why men do this, but, we all have type. We all have a type. I guess that's the generous way of putting it. Sure. It's that Anthony Bourdain knows himself.

Sure. And knows what he wants. I sometimes look at my closet and I'm like, literally everything I have here is exactly the same. It's navy or it's black or it's gray. So that's Anthony Bordane's approach to women. Yeah, that's true. I'm an extremely specific person.

I only like five things. The heart wants with the heart wants. It's very true. I guess shout out to him for making it happen again so quickly. He's a pretty great, a pretty great celebrity because he's like an OG in his field, you know? He's like one of the first celebrity chefs. So he's trailblazer. There's no guidebook for any of the Newport Day.

He's just living his best life. I kind of admire that. Yeah, I guess so. Apparently also, this came to late because an Italian magazine ran photos of the pair passionately kissing after shopping at a local market, which is just like... He also loves food, so it makes sense. And open markets. Why would we not passionately kiss there? It's fine. That's like straight at. Again, straight out of a movie.

A passionate kiss and an open-air market. Was it in France? No, it's in Italy. Oh, it was in Italy. My bad. Of course. Even better. That's where that should happen. It makes perfect sense. I'm happy for them. I am too. Love is possible. Good for you, Anthony Warden. He's got a lot of passionate fans. He does, including Chris Ryart. Shout out to Chris as well. I've said shout out so many times I hate myself. Let's move on. Something I just can't stop thinking about is Miles Teller's birthday. Oh, God. Yes.

Happy birthday. Miles Teller's birthday was this weekend, or this past weekend, and he turned 30. Milestone birthday. Welcome to your 30s, Miles. May you be more comfortable with yourself in your 30s and you were in your 20s. Although I think Miles Teller is quite comfortable. Do you think he ever looks in the mirror and is like, I don't like what I see? No. Never once, right? Never once. So he had a birthday party with the cast of Gossip Girl, Amel Hirsch, his Nina Dobrev of Vampire Diaries. I'm raising my hand because I have a follow-up question. Sure.

Which cast members of Gossip Girl? Jessica Shore. Okay. Also in the Cool Girl New York World of Jenna Lyons. Sure. Chase Crawford. Okay. And Nate Archibald, those are only two that I know of.

And then Nina Dobrev, who's also in the CW. So she basically was in Gossip Girls. Blake wasn't there. No, Blake. She's definitely above Miles Teller. Come on. I mean, I know. but wouldn't it be incredible if, like, gladly, we're suddenly at the Miles Teller birthday party?

It would be incredible. Also at the party were Zoe Kravitz, Michael B. Jordan, Teller's parents, and grandparents, and the party was at the home of, like, an absolute Vaca CEO named Jonas Tallinn. In like an absolute sponsor of the party way or that they're friends. Very unclear. Yeah. I'm sure it's unclear in real life, too. Yes, exactly.

It's very blurry. One thing I'd like to say. Yes. I love that Miles. I'm sorry. I love that Michael B. Jordan was there. Well, he was there in spirit. I think he sent a video.

He couldn't make it. Oh, okay. Because he had that All-Star weekend, I think. Okay. That was part of why. All right. Or maybe he didn't want to be that. He wrapped at All-Star weekend.

Thanks for bringing this up, Michael B. Jordan. So I love Michael B. Jordan. I'm available to date him or marry him at any time. I just love him. However, he was at All-Star weekend and introducing the All-Stars, the NBA and TNT orchestrated this, like, rap thing that involved David Diggs. and that's all it matters. Him and Michael B. Jordan.

There are two other rappers, too. The roots were involved, whatever. And Michael B. Jordan was like the final rapper in this presentation. I was like, he is just not a rapper. Like, cool, that's your interest. But, like, dude, you're an actor. Stick to being Apollo Creed. That's going great for you.

Or Vince Howard. I don't know. I don't need Michael B. Jordan to be a crossover artist, is what I'm saying here. Yeah. I mean, you know how I feel about live performances of any kind. It was really quite weird. I actually was like, I needed some warning about Michael B. Jordan's rap career. As I'm a stakeholder in his life because I love him and I just need to know that this is coming and I need to be more prepared to assess how I feel about it and hopefully support him.

It was very weird. Yeah. It's a kind of thing that I could see Miles Teller be like, yeah, dude, try it out. Just become a rapper. See how it goes. Yeah. It's not good. Do you think he wrapped in the video that he sent to Miles Teller?

Here's like my number. Can I tell you like honestly, my adrenaline just spiked it. I'm really upset right now just thinking about this. But the number one thing that I just don't like is when people rewrite the words of songs to perform, like to make it about the person whose birthday it is or the person who's getting married. And when there's like basically a group of bridesmaid's,

like singing like for the longest time with words. Here's a story. Yeah, no, no, no, no. Oh, my God. I was having a physical reaction. right now to that. I once participated in such a song. Sometimes there's like someone who wants to do it and you can't.

I mean, you could, but I don't want to be that much of a bitch all of the time. Just sometimes. Just sometimes, you know. Yeah, do you think he did that? No. I hope not. Okay. I hope it was just nice.

I feel like Michael B. Jordan has the upper hand in that friendship. I'm definitely. I mean, I think that like he chose to send a video message rather than be there besides the fact that it was All-Star weekend. Right. It was nice that he sent it. Miles Teller's staying power in the press is impressive, considering he hasn't done much lately.

Well, I think he's, you know, he is courting the attention. He was recently tweeting at someone who got an article wrong. I can't remember whether it was page 6 or other. But, yeah, and, you know, he's Instagramming. I think he wants the attention. What else does he have going on? It's true. I really wanted the best for him.

I just wanted him to make it work. Hopefully he will one day. Maybe. Probably not, though. He also was tweeting at Stub Hub because he used Stub Hub and didn't work out. Yeah, that was tough. Pretty, pretty great. Okay, it's your turn.

All right, this is really niche. Okay. But I just so, are you familiar with the designer Eileen Fisher? Yes, of course. For those of you who are not, Eileen Fisher is a very successful designer who makes, like, extremely expensive kind of flowy pants and caftans that women of a certain age and a certain income bracket really enjoy. Yeah.

Do you think that that's a fair way of putting it? Very drapey close. Yeah, totally. Also, as seen on the season 5 finale of girls. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Lena, go shopping. Yes.

Hannah, excuse me. Right. Sorry. Sure. Anyway, Eileen Fisher was the subject of a Janet Malcolm profile in the New Yorker a few years ago, which remains like my favorite kind of non-investigative work of journalism in history. I mean, like, Watergate was important, but then, you know, like, there's one, there's one category where we're saving the world, and then there's the frivolous shit. And this is, quite frankly, the best frivolous piece of writing that has ever been done. in my opinion, because it is wild.

It's famous among white women like us. Yes, it really is because it's talking a lot about how Eileen Fisher has organized her company, which involves like a bull, like a bell that they ring to have their like sharing circle and how decisions are hard. And also Janet Malcolm, who is writing it, is clearly like very aggravated with Eileen Fisher throughout much of the profile and is like making fun of her cat who like gets locked out. I don't really know. It's really weird, and I think about it all the time.

Anyway, Ilead Fisher did another interview with the cut. Amazing. With Dana Evans of the cut. And it's how she spends her day. And I just want to read this paragraph. Okay, please do. I love reading aloud. What she does in the morning.

She wakes up around 630 or 7, three alarms, very relatable. And she does some stretching. After stretching, I have my lemon juice and water and my coffee. I have two out of three. Then I sit in what I call my purpose chair and I journal. I organize myself with what I think matters for the day and ramble around. Sounds great. Sounds like a Nancy Myers movie.

On this particular day, I started with a 9 o'clock phone call from my new personal financial consultant. I recently hired him to help me understand my money holistically around my foundation and things of that nature. Oh, my God. Understanding my money holistically, what does that mean? I literally have not stopped thinking about it. What are the things of that nature? What other, what things? I don't know.

I don't know either. But I am so fascinated at how weird that is. And I can't stop thinking about it. It's also just like how much money do you have that you aren't able to take in a holistic picture on your own? It's so beyond out of touch that it's like you can't even. It's like a work of art at this point. It's also very Nancy Myers. Yeah, totally.

I just really, come, she gives great quotes. Wow. Shout out to Eileen Fisher. Seriously. The only other thing that I thought was very interesting in this, at the end, she's like, I think I chose to make such comfortable clothes because I'm such an uncomfortable person. Oh, I like that.

And I was like, oh, wow, a moment of self-knowledge. That's pretty interesting. I like that. I just want to say that Eileen Fisher was estimated to be worth $210 million in 2015. Yeah. That's the company. So her personal net worth is probably the 20 range. So it's important to think of it holistically.

Totally. I like to think of the entire celebrity landscape, holistically. We hit a lot of beats this week. I'm proud of us. I told you. Personal interests. Thanks again to hit water. Thank you for simple safe.

Yeah, thank you. Thanks for going on this journey with us. We'll never land a plane on top of American Airlines. Have a great weekend. Enjoy the Oscars. And we will be back in two weeks.