The Press Box - 'Jam Session' — Steve Harvey's Work Etiquette, Katy Perry, and Harry Styles's Album (Ep. 306)

Episode Date: May 16, 2017

The Ringer's Juliet Litman and Amanda Dobbins discuss Steve Harvey's stern memo and work expectations (5:00), Katy Perry's press tour and feminist brand (15:00), Pippa Middleton’s wedding plans (26:00), Harry Styles's love life and inspiration for songs (30:00), and Goldie Hawn's quest to live forever (38:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the jam session. I'm Julietette Lippin. I'm Amanda Dobbins. Hello, Amanda. How are you? I'm great, Juliet. It's great to see you. It's lovely to see you too. Let's talk about some celebrities. Yeah, should we do the rundown? Yes, let's.

Okay. Celebrities to be discussed on this episode of jam session. I'm very business-like today. I like it. I'm feeling it's a good vibe. It's like these are the keywords. Yes. Katie Perry. Steve Harvey. Steve Harvey. Harry Styles.

Oh, yes. You're already like grinning like a child. It's true. It's so good. I think that you are to Harry Stiles as I am to Ben Higgins of The Bachelor. I was actually thinking about this earlier. We can do a flyby on that also. Okay. Pippa Middleton. Yes.

Am I forgetting anyone? I think those are the hot topic. Okay. Then we'll hit our segments at the end. It's very exciting. Of DTR. And one thing can't stop thinking about. I actually have a suggestion.

Yes. Let's save Harry for the DTR. Wonderful. Live suggestion. Okay. Okay. That's great. We'll come to Minnesota.

at the end. First, let's start, well, you know, let's mix it up and start with Steve Harvey. It's the biggest topic of the week in the celebrity world. Wow. Okay. I'm ready. He sent a note to his staff, or he did not do it. Someone from his staff sent a note to the rest of his staff about how to interact with him. Why don't you do a reading? Do you want to go line by line? How do you want to do it? I would like to go line by line. Okay. You know, we're doing this because this is a really important text. Sure. And I'm going to go ahead and just say before I read line my line that I agree with every single word of this memo. Okay.

I'm sure that that will come back. As your colleague, I can attest that you probably would like some of the things he's asking for. Exactly. In my home life as well. I'm sure that when I revisit this, that I'll be like, oh, shit, I shouldn't have endorsed this. But like right now, I am 100% standing with Steve Harvey. Okay. Okay.

Wherever I stand, I stand with Steve. That's the motto of Amanda Dobbins. Exactly. Okay, great. Good morning, everyone. Welcome back. Thank you. A polite way to open an email.

I think that's a nice thing, by the way. Just a brief segue into email etiquette. It's good to acknowledge that there's a person on the other side of the email reading your email. I think you've got to get like three emails deep and a thread before you can like kind of drop the like the hello or the high or whatever the salutation is. I think that's true. Email three is when it can begin. Just also the no salutation is a level of intimacy that I'm not really. using with most people that I email with. Totally. Totally agree. I don't like in all in all interpersonal

relationships, I don't like overfamiliarity. And to that extent, I always notice the first time someone uses my common nickname of Jules. Like literally I always notice. Like it's like I like, oh, my ears perk up. Like, oh, you think we're at that level. Interesting. I think what you're secretly saying is that you also stand with Deep Harvey. I don't know. Let's keep going to the letter. Okay. Line two. Very exciting. Learning a lot. I'd like you all to review and adhere to the following notes and rules for season five of my talk show. Okay. Have you ever seen the Steve Harvey show?

I think I've seen clips. Okay. I mean, you know, on the internet. Like, I'm working with you during the day. Sure. So my friend David Chocoby appeared on Family Feud. Oh, that I've seen. That's Steve Harvey hosts now.

So that's my number one exposure to Steve Harvey, other than the Steve Harvey show, which was like a sitcom that I used to occasionally watch. Right. Of course I saw the infamous announcing the wrong winner. It's interesting. He's really taking a turn. is probably persona from like kind of, you know, sitcom guy to like sort of buffoon who doesn't want to be bothered.

I mean, listen, here's where you have to say that Steve Harvey is a visionary because he announced the wrong winner before the Oscars. Steve Hardy is their first. That's real. And now, frankly, he's a visionary with these interpersonal rules. Line three. Line three. Number one, there will be no meetings in my dressing room.

No stopping by or popping in. all caps no one no one so my dad um hates a stop and chat and also hates a poppin and unannounced pop in so he's probably on board at that i kind of get that you need to have a sanctuary that's just for you a meeting's free place if you're steve harvey i'm sure you got tons of meetings i agree with this his dressing room is his space yes you know sometimes you have to get your shit done and if people are constantly bugging you then you can't do that for example i feel like do you ever read the diaries of how CEOs or famous people spend their times. And they're always like, you know, I do all my real work before I go to the office because then I'm having meetings all day.

That's a problem. Maybe you should get to do some of your real work during work hours. I don't know. Just like as a society, maybe we should do work during work hours. So you're, you also feel that Steve Harvey is a visionary in terms of work life balance. Yes, I do. Okay. Okay. Steve Harvey, can he have it all? Okay. Next. Do not come to my dressing room unless invited. Okay. I don't, I was with you. I was like, yeah, I'm on board. Okay. Okay. But like if Steve Harvey is your boss and like you need to like find out like if he approves the script or like if he like wants to change the tie that he's wearing and is really close to the time of the show like you might have to go to his dressing room. And like a number one thing with dealing with the busy boss is like don't expect them to fall up and everything. It's like comment upon you to. get the resolution you need. Yeah, that's true, but there are different methods of doing that. Email, text, posted note on the door. Posted note on the door. I don't know. I'm trying to be creative. What is it?

1997? I'm trying to work with Steve Harvey here. Listen, I'm like, posted note on the door. I don't know. It's, what came to mind. Do you want to please leave me some posting notes on the where I would be excited. I would save all of them, you know, letters from Juliet. Okay. Here's what I'm saying. That's true. Is that I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I do you understand that people in power need to be accessible. Sure. But it's kind of like, my office door is always open is a thing that people say a lot. But it's not actually because they need to be doing their work at work during work hours.

And if people are not going to respect other people's time, then you have to set hard rules. I believe. So this is about respect for you. Yeah. Okay. Let's go on to the next line. I'm sorry. I'm already laughing.

I just started reading. Okay. Okay, I just want to keep us moving. I'm sorry, I know you wanted to make this a short podcast, and now I'm spending 45 minutes. This is an important interrogation of work etiquette. Yeah, that's important as two women who work in an office, you know? Do not open my dressing room door. Okay, valid.

All caps. Valid. If you open my door, expect to be removed. Don't open my door is valid. That's just setting boundaries. Sure. And also, like, respect people's space. But you will be removed.

What is it? That's setting expectations. United Airlines. You'll be removed? It's better to know. At work, it's important to set expectations and consequences. And if you invade someone's space, you will then be asked to move someone's space. It's better than like, someone being like, oh, my God, you kicked me out of your office.

You will be asked to leave. It's not the same as you'll be removed. Okay. Well, you know what? I think he has a commanding tone throughout that I respect. Keep going. Oh, my God. I'm sorry.

Okay. No need to apologize. You're moved by the words. My security team will stop everyone from standing at my door who have the intent to see or speak to me. Question. Who's standing outside of Steve Harvey's door dying to talk to him? Well, I guess if you need approval on the tie or something,

you can see a line forming out of like, I need Steve, I need Steve, I need Steve. I think he's just not implementing an efficient system. He needs a gopher. I was going to say it does seem like there are some systems. systematic issues here with respect to how communicate with Steve Harvey and the directions that Steve Harvey is a giving or not giving. He needs a consigliary. He needs like a number two. I would agree with that. Someone to who is that if you have a good number two, you don't need to send this kind of note because your number two is already taking care of it. I just want to say

though, flip side, who have the intent to see or speak to me is just a beautiful turn of phrase. That's all. I just, I have respect for the craft of writing. You just, you love questions of authorial intent. So this is really important to you. Next line. I want all the ambushing to stop now. Ambushing. I want all the ambring throwing water balloons at him. Like what kind of ambushes happen on the set of Steve Harvey's talk show? Like, I don't know. Are there Nerf guns? Are there T-shirt guns? Like, what is he being ambush with? All the ambushing, all the ambushing to stop now. I'm a theory. Maybe he was like deposed, like you get served papers to be deposed and like, having it at work. I think it's honestly just 15, 22 year olds being like, what do you think about this, Steve?

What do you think about this? I have bad news for you, which is we're learning so much more about you than we are about Steve Harvey. I know, that's fine. This is the most naked you've ever been on this podcast. It's really okay. I feel like I put this out into the world every day and now we're just confirming it. Okay, keep going. I want all the ambushing to stop now.

That includes TV staff. Wow. Okay. So I guess the TV staff is the problem here. That's what we're learning. We're learning a little bit about Steve Harvey as well here. I don't know. I assume, you know, various personal assistants or products or whatever.

Okay. Okay. Or maybe TV staff is different than I'm not sure. Okay. He doesn't specify. Maybe it's like the Miss Universe staff versus TV staff. You must schedule an appointment. That's okay.

Yeah. I accept that. I'll look at a calendar invite. And he's being clear about the terms. Sure. Which I respect. Yeah. It's important to let people know how you want to be treated.

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Agree with that. I have been taken advantage of by my lenient policy in the past. This ends now. No more. What kind of leniency was he showing? Like, this is obviously not a friendly man. I think it's probably not evicting someone from his dressing room when they opened the door.

He should be the spokesman for United Airlines. That's what I've decided. They have the same views on hospitality and like personal speech. Julia. Which really don't exist. You're in the middle of a meeting and someone opens the door without knocking. I even knock on the door when your door is closed and I need you. That's true.

If someone just barges in, you'd be like, not right now. Who does that? And that's all it is. I just have questions about the global culture here because how do they get to a place where people thought they could just barge in on Steve Harvey? I mean, it's very strange. People are astonishing. That's true.

It's what every day I wake up and I learn that people are astonished. That's true. Okay. Let's keep going. Yes, please. Do not approach me while I'm in the makeup chair unless I ask to speak with you directly. Either knock or wait for it, use the doorbell. Do you think it's like a bell he hung outside or is it really a doorbell? I would love to get some eyes on this piece of machinery. Maybe the makeup room has a doorbell? Maybe. I don't know. Good question. The only thing that I could figure out was that maybe it's some sort of recording you know, like we work on a studio lot and there are various lights and things that are indicating that it's recording right now and you need to not come in. On air. Yes. And so maybe

there's some sort of may we enter via the doorbell. Is it a safe time? Yes. That's true. Okay. Okay. I don't think I want to work for Steve Harvey. Just I'm, it's, we're not done. Maybe not you. We're not done. We're not done. Okay. Here's, this is a very important one. I am seeking more free time for me throughout the day. Well, aren't we all? Harvey. Seriously, aren't we all? That's, you know what? So Steve Harvey is just the voice of labor, in your opinion.

Yeah. No, he's not at all. I want to be really clear that I support labor and Steve Harvey is not the voice of labor. He is the voice of being very clear about his needs. His word, yeah. We're not done because here's my favorite part. Okay. Do not wait in any hallway to speak to me.

I hate being ambushed. Please make an appointment. I promise you I will not entertain you in the hallway and do not attempt. to walk with me. I promise you I will not entertain you in the hallway is my new Twitter bio and life motto. Is it actually? You should change it. No, I mean, I could.

You should change it. I support that. I just want to know about what happened to him to make him so afraid of ambushes. Can I do the next line? Yes. If you're reading this, yes, I mean you. That is incredible management right there. It doesn't say it's too late.

No, but someone in our office did in fact make that. image, which we can share. Shout out to Andrew Godadarra. Okay, great. Yes, shout out to him indeed. Wow. Wow, wow, wow. Final line. Everyone do not take offense to the new way of doing business. It is for the good of my personal life and enjoyment.

Can I offer a theory? Yeah. What if Steve Harvey spent his entire weekend binge watching the various dramas of Aaron Sorkin in which there are a lot of ambushes? And the walk and talk. A lot of walk and talk and not a lot of knocking on doors. And maybe he just like, it was like,

a horror film for him where he just saw like a horrible workplace future. Just an idea. I think that that we could certainly talk about that. It's not impossible. They are all on Netflix. He's probably like, ooh, West Wing, cool. Related question. Actually more of a sports night guy, don't you think?

Well, yeah, because broadcasting. Sure. Do you think that it would be fun to actually work in an Aaron Sorkin work environment? Great question. On the one hand, no, because like I'm talked out. every day and I definitely talk less than Aaron Torkin characters. On the other hand, I love drama. I love interpersonal drama.

I also love gossip. And I just think there's a lot of both of those things in the Aaron Sorkan view of the world. I'd like to work on sports night more than I'd like to work in the West Wing or on Studio 60. Definitely wouldn't want to work at Studio 60. I don't want to work at any of these places because no one has a healthy work life balance. I think that the Steve Harvey letter is actually a fair response to the fact. And let me tell you something.

I have watched episodes of the West Wing, like each episode through season five at least five times. I can like perform scenes for you. I love the television show. I do not want to work there. None of them have lives at all. It's true. And they have sort of like, I don't really know that Josh and Nana ever have a healthy relationship, even when you finally get what's, you know, the happy ending.

Sure. Just so you know I haven't seen all the West Wing. That's okay. Well, I mean, it's fine. I know what happens. I know what happens. I know. I know all about it.

I watched part of it, and then for external reasons, had to stop. Also, like, sports nights really fucked up. Sports night's great, though. Listen. Come on, young Josh Charles. I was about to say it to head. Tell forever. I get it.

I get it. Will Gardner is among the hottest fake television characters of all time. It's true. I would say he's half-five. He's, like, up there with Ben Covington. Would you want to work at the Good Wife law firm? Is that a good work environment? I don't know. I would look great. Really good clothes there. Yeah, that's true.

In conclusion, wherever you stand, you stand with Steve Harvey. I promise you I will not entertain you in the hallway. I like that one because I don't like to go to lunch with people. I'm just like, let me do my thing. Me time. This is the thing. You are actually with me on this and you are just like, you want to be a nice person. And Steve Harvey and I have realized that being nice, waste too much time. And we just got to be ourselves. because it is for the good of our personal lives and enjoyment. So Steve Harvey has a fan is what you're saying. He's got one.

Yes. He's got Amanda Dobbins. This was extraordinary. Thank you for this. Actually, I'll be honest. I wasn't really in deep with Steve Harvey, like, with this whole situation, but now I am. So this has been really educational. That's great.

And now I know that he's got some valid points about management. It's true. Maybe we should bring him into the ringer to give a seminar on work-life balance and personal time. Do we have a doorbell on any of? the offices. No, but the door slams a lot enough you always know when someone's coming or going. That's true. So we got that at least. Okay, that was invigorating. Thanks, Steve Harvey. Thank you. For all of your time. Let's briefly talk now about Katie Perry, who is just out here throwing bombs, quote bombs, basically. Katie Perry would like you to buy her

new album, which is coming out of June. I really want to be a Katie Cat, but it's tough. It's been a tough week for the Katie Cats. I would like them to find a new name, number one, so that I can support you as a Katie fan. I like saying Katie Cat. It reminds me of Parker Posey and the Jones and the Pussy Cats movie. Okay. It's not the association that I would have gone with.

I do find the name to be slightly infantilizing, which I suppose is Katie Perry's MO when it comes to seeking fandom. Speaking of old movies, can I just share one anecdote? Go for it. I flipped on my TV last night. Yeah. and it was like on some HBO channel and I was greeted with a scene from men and black too with Will Smith and Rosario Dawson.

Sure. A film I haven't seen, but Will Smith was giving a very emotional like explanation of who he is and what he does. I miss Will Smith a lot. I just miss the times when he was an important actor and celebrity that mattered. And weirdly, he's left Scientology and receded, whereas when he was like in his Scientology Prime, he was also in his super stardom. Was men in black and men of black too? Men in black was, I think.

I know, but did that overlap with the Scientology years? I sort of assumed that he was kind of a big deal, and then Scientology got their claws on him. No, I think he was already a Scientologist. Interesting. I just, I don't know. We can go back to Katie Perry, but that was just a thought that I had last night, and I just like, I miss this guy.

I agree. Independence Day? Hancock, even? Oh, wow. Great movie. Sorry, back to Katie Barry. I just wanted to share that thought with you. I support that.

I don't know. He's got so much paid those. It's not too late. He's got to stop making like serious movies. Collateral beauty, whatever it was called. Yeah, I don't, I didn't see that one. I can't believe that was a movie. Very poor choice by him.

But he just needs to go back to being like the like heart of gold in a like slightly lighthearted big budget film. They just need to make slightly lighthearted big budget films, which they don't can't he get in a Marvel movie? Let's get some weed and dust on him. Who can he be? Okay. I don't know.

This is not a comic book podcast. Sorry. All right. Well, I don't know any comic book characters. Okay. The end of that conversation. All right. Goodbye.

Talk to Katie Perry. We love you. Yeah. Katie Perry would like you to buy her album. And so she's saying a lot of ridiculous things. She had given an incoherent statement, like, semi-related to Taylor Swift. Or, like, directly related without saying her name. Yes.

So I believe that, so this was a week or so ago. She was asked the question. There are rumors that Bad Blood, the Taylor Swift song, is about you. Does this album have a reaction to bad blood? Now, I'm not going to read the entire quote from Katie Perry. I would read the whole thing. Yes, I would like to. Okay, go ahead.

It's incoherent. Only way to present. Yeah, I was going to say, I'm reading the cut, New York Magazine's the cut wrote about it, and Allie Jones accurately called it a word salad. It's good, yeah, also reminds of those old word clouds that were, like, popular on the internet seven years ago. she said well that's not my question to answer if it is about me i think my new album is a very empowered record there's no one thing that's calling out any one person one thing to note is you can't mistake

kindness for weakness and don't come for me anyone anyone anyone anyone anyone and that's not to one person and don't quote me that it is because it's not it's not about that honestly when women come together and they decide to need to unite this world's going to be a better place period end of story. But let me say this. Everything has a reaction or a consequence, so don't forget about that. Okay, honey? We got to keep it real, honey. This record is not about anyone else. This record is about me being seen and heard so that I can see and hear everyone else. It's not even about me. It's about everything that I see out there that I digest. I think there's a healing in it for me and a vulnerability that people want to connect and be healed and feel vulnerable and feel empowered

and strong. God bless and here it is. Yeah. A frequent Amanda sign off is God bless. So she stole your line. Yeah, that's true. She did still my line, although she doesn't really mean it in the way that I usually meet it. A couple things. Yes, go ahead. Don't get into a fight with Katie Perry or Taylor Swift, but like Katie Perry, I just feel like she holds grudges in a different way. I would agree with that.

I guess they both, yeah. They both. Taylor Swift has done a better job at making money off of her grudges. And I think she's almost kind of, you don't know if the grudges. is a real, but you know that she's going to use them in order to actually make money. Katie Perry is pissed off, but has not gone through

enough therapy to convert this into action and financial gain. Also, it's just a really unfortunate reality that no one's talking about is this is her first outing without Dr. Luke and it's a disaster. The music is just not good. She doesn't have that kind of like pop confectionery vibe to her anymore.

She's kind of like outside of the farm system from which she came and it's not going well. Yeah, though I, you know, prison was real hit and miss in that way as well. But there was a couple, but Roar salvaged it all. Yeah, it's tough. As she tries to evolve from like bubble gum artist, which she was so good at. Like, she would just buy the best songs, but she had impeccable taste.

Teenage Dream is a top five pop song at all time. Absolutely. No question about it. And I think when she was just a pop star who was out here in a very, um, sexualized. Yeah, she was sexualized, but she was also just like, I'm going to do what it takes to be the most popular pop star. Yeah.

That's my goal. Offense some people, wear some crazy outfits, have my songs not mean much. Yeah. They're really, we just, everyone wants to bop along to them. They're like, they're so perfect that they can't be craven anymore, because they have actually achieved the goal of being really good and everyone likes them. And so Prism was like, I don't know, she was working through her divorce and some other stuff. And it was the back half of that is a real mess.

Also, I went to that tour. Woo, not. It's funny. I saw her at the Hollywood Bowl as part of like a, like a night of female artists or whatever. And it was right before the tour. She was like practicing her material. Very rough. Yeah.

She can't really sing live. You know, but even beyond the singing live, which she's not the best at, it was kind of, it was chaotic in a way that, obviously you want a big stadium tour to be big and distracting and you kind of have to fill that giant space and it's really not about the live singing but she didn't really feel it in any way that she's not a great dancer either one another thing about katy perry is that she like for the last 18 months has been a lot about girl power and like women uniting and like very very visibly was behind Hillary Clinton but i feel like she hasn't really unlocked her particular brand of

girl power like i don't really know what she stands for as like a woman's icon yeah it's a lot lip service it hasn't really been thought through a lot. Yeah. And like there's not even like a service level message, just kind of like a bunch of like a word salad tossed together. Absolutely. It's tough. I want to like her more than she's allowing me to. She's clearly going through a lot. Yeah. I was going to say this, that I think the music aspect of chain to the rhythm is actually very catchy. It's really grown on me. I haven't read this anywhere. This is pure speculation on my part, but it really seems to me like those lyrics were entirely rewritten after Hillary Clinton lost the election to try to... What was the original title supposed to be?

I mean, that was even worse. There's also this element. It was slaves to the rhythm, which is just not an appropriate thing to title your song. And obviously, change the rhythm is not that much better. But I think the rest of the lyrics are kind of liberal world word salad. Yeah. in that like I wasn't expecting this election to happen this way and now I'm coping with it. Yeah.

You know, it's like, you know, she's basically tweeting through it, but in a song, which is a shame because I actually kind of like the music if the words made any sense at all and weren't vaguely offensive. Sure. Do you think a slave for you, it's named that now, that song? No, I hope not. We're pretty serious. Yeah, not good.

Nope. It's tough. I want to be on Team Katie and she's just not giving me the material to work with. Yeah, and then the Bon Appetit video, I don't even know what was going on. Yes, that was weird. That's just kind of, I watched that once and I have moved on. She's doing a lot of, like, PR plays that just seem like pretty, like, Craven. Like, doing the tasty video.

Yeah, do you want to talk about that video? Sure. I mean, she makes, for her song Bonapeteet, she makes a cherry pie. Like, she narrates the making of a cherry pie in a tasty video with BuzzFeed. And she just, like, explains, like, with the different, like, things, mean, to her and like what this means in the song. And it's just like weird and like pointless. It's fake deep in a way that again that this song is not really delivering and her

politics aren't really delivering and it's a tough spot to be in. And like honestly, like we don't need that right now. We need people who actually know what they're talking about and who are going to do things that make a difference. Katie doesn't know who she wants to be and we don't know where to put her. Yeah. And the music isn't really good enough to. It's a bummer.

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Great. There's two British relationships we need to talk about. Okay. Let's start with Pippa very quickly. Okay, Pippa. Give us the update. Wedding this Saturday.

Wedding is coming. Yes. So this is exciting for her and we'll talk about it at length. Yeah, after the fact. Yeah. But here's what I want to talk to you about. There were rumors going around. There's a two-part ceremony.

There's a two-part wedding. There's the ceremony at the church where they actually kind of get married. And then there's the second part, the reception. And the reception is the part that Megan Markle is allowed to attend. But people were very upset because of parents. apparently PIPA has asked or suggested that everyone change outfits between the ceremony and the reception. And people are calling her a bride zola.

Pippa. Yes. I want to ask your thoughts about this. I don't know. I'm okay with that, I think. Well, so here's the thing is that if the wedding is in the morning and then, which most British weddings are, and then the receptions at night, then, like, wouldn't you do that anyway?

Yeah. Yeah. I think that's fine. I mean, if it's like a straight 11 a.m. to lunch situation, then I don't feel like. Yeah, then that's like asking a lot. Yeah. But if there's a break, I mean, yeah, you'd want to change. I would agree with that.

I think I just would naturally anyway. Leave Pippa alone. Like, she's just going to, like, you know, she's always going to be second fiddle. Some people just have fancy wedding. She's trying. I can't believe I'm defending someone's ridiculous wedding, but I think people are being too hard on it. Love your dreams, Pippa.

We support you. Yeah, I guess so. Next, I want to talk about Harry Stiles and his relationships to his past alleged exes. So he is doing press tour for his new album, which is good. I like it. I really like it. You just love Harry. I know.

It's a little surprising to me. I don't know why, but. Why? I don't know. You just really love him. He really is. He's a real charmer. That's like, he's so charming.

It's all you have to do. Yeah, he's got a great smile. Yeah. He's really grown into himself too. I was given some. notes in my personal life about how I talk about Harry Styles on a podcast, so I'm trying to rein it in right now. Why? Because it's like too effusive. Yes. The effusive is a generous word, but anyway. Whatever. I, um, when Ben and Higgins of The Bachelor first came into my life,

the only way that I could like describe the feeling of like talking about him on podcast was by using the heart eyes emoji. Like that's just like Ben equals heart eyes emoji. That's how you feel about Harry too. I feel like I'm just blushing constantly. Yeah, that's part of the hard eyes. Just like you just, you know, go googly-eyed over this stranger. I completely relate Amanda. It's fine. Also, Harry is very charming, very talented. How do you put his outfits, though, on this press tour? Love it. You do. So he's going for a weird, like, Mick Jagger meets Elton John meets 21st century. That's kind of the way I describe it. Yeah, it's great. It's just all working for you. Listen, he has such swagger. He can do whatever the fuck he wants. One thing that's really sweet

is I've watched him perform some of the times, like 10 different occasions. And he just seems like he's enjoying himself. Like he just seems happy. Yes. He's having a great time. He is. Okay. So a big part of his press tour is talking about like who the song you're about. So there's a song Carolina that he claims is about like a random girl. He met on tour who lives in North Carolina who found out from watching him perform the song on the Today Show. Her dad. Her dad, yes. Sorry. Watched him on the Today Show and called her and left a voicemail.

Right. So that's weird. And then there's one allegedly about Taylor Swift when they were in New York and photographed together. Yes. And then he was on a different chat show. where he was asked by Kendall, Kendall Jenner, who he also was, like, photographed with. And, like, in all occasions, he doesn't, like, deflect or spin it into something else. He just gets really awkward, and he'd be like, I'm mad at you. Or he's just like, what do I say? Like, he just, he, um, he doesn't respond, but he acknowledges that it's like an awkward thing to discuss. And at first, I was like, oh, God, this is so awkward.

But now that I've watched many interviews with him, I realized it's a bit. Like, that's what he does. He wants you to keep wondering about these relationships. I think it's a tactic. I would agree with you. He knows exactly what he's doing. And it's his way of avoiding a question that he doesn't want to answer. Right.

And we talked a lot about this, about how when you are a celebrity and you are doing press and you're trying to sell something, you have to know that certain questions are going to be asked. And you just have to be ready. You got to have, even if it's like a two-second, two-sentence memorized deflection, you just, you need to have something to give the people and to doing the brady. I'm not going to answer that. How dare you ask me? Blah, blah, blah is bullshit and that's not allowed.

This counts. This is a tactic. So you're just in favor. You're just like pro. I mean, here's the thing. Do you want him to be trashing Taylor Swift and Kendall and all of these people? I don't want to trash them. First of all.

First of all, you don't even believe that he has dated any of these people. Of course not. It's one of the reasons he keeps it alive. He's a euphemism, by the way. But also, another one that was revived. Like, I totally forgot about this. When he was 17, he was allegedly dating Caroline Flack. Yeah.

And, like, there were some rumors that Carolina was about her or something like that. It's not, he claims. Okay. But, like, I just, like, I just forgot. I just feel like this is, we're just, we're really getting the full pop star package with him. Like, this is all, this is all a schick. Yeah, I love it.

It's impossible to get the full pop star package right now. We were just talking about how Katie Perry's flubbed. failing at it. And men especially. Yeah. There's no one. What's Justin Timberlake doing right now? What is he doing right now? He's singing for the trolls movies. Like, I'm good, you know? I like to at the Oscars.

Okay. You're literally the only person and I vividly remember in the ring or slack. Like 800 people being like, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. And then Juliet, alone in her principles. This is like, I like this. That's fine. That's you? I do. Me? I don't like it. That's okay. Just give me a song and dance. man that's all I'm asking for. No. Did Harry act on Saturday Night Live or just saying?

I think you just say. I am so fucking excited for Dunkirk. I cannot wait. I don't care if he dies in the first 20 minutes. Yeah, he was literally about to say, Juliet, are you emotionally prepared for what's going to happen? I'm so excited. I just, I like that it's the summer of Harry. I like that he's going to be here.

Mm-hmm. I would like to go to his show The Greek. That sounds fun. We need to work on tickets for that. I was actually going to talk to you about. how we get to be in a room with Harry Styles. Oh, interesting. We can work on it, I think.

Because you and I, when I first moved to Los Angeles, shared a very emotional night in a room with Adele, which I think about all the time. It was one of the best concepts I've been to. I really think in our shared anglophilia that we should find a way to be in a room with Harry Styles. I know your old hat at this. I know you and Harry are friends.

I would have to hide behind you the whole time because I probably can't make direct eye contact with him, even though I'm a grown woman. He's charming. He's a charmer. I think it's going great for him. You know, it's interesting. I don't know that the album is going to be a huge sales success, which is kind of interesting.

I sort of don't think it matters. I think that he's so good. His tour sold out, so he's good. Exactly. And the performance aspect in that sense of just being a very on-brand charming pop-serie. He knows what his audience wants, and I can say that with authority. And I think that that is actually more important than like number one on the Billboard 200 next week. Yeah, sure.

So I'm feeling good. I'm feeling strong. The Harry stands. Yeah, I'm optimistic. All right. Great. It's great. Good.

I'm really glad to hear it. I like Harry too. I'm happy for him. He's cool. You don't listen. It's fine. No, I like him. I don't know.

I'm just more like fascinated by this, the peeling off the solo careers of all these dudes than like, like, you know, I just, I like a six foot four, very pretty classically handsome, former, former reality TV. contestants. So I'm just saying like I understand your feeling but it's just for me it's not Harry. Okay. That's fine. That's good because it's for me. Yeah. And that works out. Like I have like Chandler Parsons, you know. Yeah, that's true. You Harry Styles. Um, well, you know, he'll be around so it's great. You really look like uncomfortable. I'm just trying to be responsible and not use the effort to make lewd comments in public because people in my life to ask me to. And it's really hard. Okay. Just DM me and we can talk. DM her, Harry.

Or anyone else who wants to talk about Harry Styles. Last thing of the episode, one thing you just can't stop thinking about. Okay. This is a little bit older. I saw Snatched last week. How was it? I had basement level expectations and somehow it exceeded them. That's not.

That's because Goldie Hawn is a legend. So this is about Goldie Hawn. Yeah. She's great. So watching Snatched, which don't spend your money on it, is kind of what I would say. Wasn't planning to. reminded me of a piece in the New Yorker a few months ago. No, yeah, just last month.

By Tad Friend. And the piece was about like billionaires in Silicon Valley people trying to find a way to live forever. Kind of recent innovations and that quest and the personalities that go into it. But it has probably the single best magazine lead that I've read this year. Whoa. And I'm going to summarize it, but here we go. Start, this is the first sentence. On a velvety March evening in Mandiville Canyon, high above the rest of Los Angeles, Norman Lear's living room was jammed with powerful people eager to learn the secrets of longevity.

Okay, blah, blah, blah, blah. The next paragraph, when Liz Blackburn, who won a Nobel Prize for her works and genetics, took questions. Goldie Hawn, regal on a comfy sofa, purred, I have a question about the mitochondria. I've been told about a molecule, called, I literally don't know how to pronounce this, glutathione. Okay. Glutathione, please let me know. That helps the health of the cell. Honestly, Goldie Hawn reclined on a couch asking questions about the mitochondria

in an attempt to live forever. I can't believe that happened. Very death becomes her. I can't believe that's real life and that happened. And there was a reporter there and he wrote it and they fact checked it. That's incredible. It's pretty amazing. I keep thinking about it.

She's a queen. I love her. She's a queen. She's incredible. I would watch just a movie about this meeting, by the way. They should have made that. Sure. Sure.

She seems really fun. She seems amazing. This was delightful. There was like a very fun interview in the piece in GQ with her by Lauren Bands. She's great. Do better by Goldie. And also please let her know about the mitochondria. Shout out to Goldie.

Am I even saying that right? Mitochondria? Yeah. I don't know. I took biology a long time ago. You are. Great. Great job.

Thank you. For me. I'm really deep in The Handmaid's Tale. Oh, wow. Love it. Wow, okay. So I've been thinking about Alexis Bledale. Yes.

And today I came across an article about how Amber Tamblin has some like film festival movie right now. And her three best friends, Blake lively, America Ferreira, and Alexis Vodale came out to celebrate her premiere with her. And those four are like really best friends. They show up like 10 years strong, 12 years strong. All the time. I'm actually like tearing up talking about it. It makes me really happy. I don't know.

It's just so sweet. Like they're really friends. They're all successful. They're like fully support each other. It's just like, it's like a beautiful friendship. I just feel like that's so rare. And also it's very low key.

Like they don't like they Instagram like the way that like you Instagram about your friends, but not to be like look what I'm hanging out with today. Like it's very pure. Right. It's not squad goals. Yeah. It's not the Taylor Swift thing. Like they're just and they're just like, yeah,

we're all best friends. Like there's like nothing that interesting about it. Like I don't know. It just it makes me really happy. I think it's really sweet. It's very nice. I agree. I think it's very sweet of them.

Where are you on that movie? Which one, Amber Tamlins? No, since I was her to the traveling pants. Oh, it's so funny. Also last night when I was channel flipping. Number two, Pants 2 was on. And I don't know. I watched for a few minutes.

We'll watch. So I'm in. I mean, I like the singer Eric Hutchinson, and he had a song on the soundtrack for the first one. Okay, wow. So I just like bop along to those tunes. It's really had deep cuts over here. I don't know.

I like that version of Blake lively. Like, first, I like her in those movies. I like everyone involved. I don't know. Bradley Woodford. Cool. I just forgot. He plays America Ferrer's father.

I am pro those movies. I don't know why. And also, I don't know why everyone should want to, like, wear the same pants as their friends. But, you know, have your own clothes. But I don't know. I just like a good, I like a good friend group. Just I find it very heartwarming. I agree with that.

It's very nice. I also agree about having your own clothes. Yeah. Like, I have a lot of female friends. I've had, like, since childhood in many far-flung places. And it just makes me very happy to see that, like, accurately represented both by celebrities and movies. So, I don't know. Like, I just, that's nice.

It's a nice positive note to end on. I'm very emotional thinking about it. It's really nice. Good for them. Yeah, good for them. Thanks for listening. Thanks to Dollar Shave Club. And thank you to Steve Harvey.

Thank you, Steve Harvey. We'll be back in two weeks as per usual.