The Press Box - The Official Podcast of Celebrity Summer Vacations | Jam Session (Ep. 504)

Episode Date: July 25, 2018

The Ringer’s Juliet Litman and Amanda Dobbins talk about their love for ‘Mamma Mia: Here We Go Again’ (1:34) and Karlie Kloss’s engagement to Joshua Kushner (22:39). Then Andrew Gruttadaro joins to talk about Leonardo DiCaprio’s hobby of the summer: beach volleyball (34:04). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We're going to talk about Leonardo DiCaprio's beach volleyball habit. We're going to talk about an update on the yacht scene, some important updates, including Carly Klaus and Josh Kushner getting engaged. Which was a ripple effect of possibly the most important yacht trail. Act yacht of 2018. We'll break that down. But before that, a different Mediterranean destination. We're going to Croatia, not Greece. And we're talking about Mamma Mia.

Here we go again. Mama Mia. Here I go again. My, my. How can I resist you? Mama Mia. Does it show again? My, my.

Just. We both saw this movie, not together, which is actually probably better for podcast purposes. Yes. I have a lot that I want to discuss. So I went this weekend with my mother. My mother was in town and it was like three and we needed air conditioning. And I just got to say, Mamma Mia 2, fantastic parent movie. Oh, yeah.

I saw Mommy a One with my mom, my grandma. I can't remember where I saw it. I saw at the Kips Bay Theater in New York. I have certainly rewatched it on Netflix since, which is a fantastic. It's an interesting choice by me. I didn't know that I was partaking in a global trend. But at a certain point, I don't know if you knew this, Manda. Mama Mia came out before Avatar, which is important for the following information.

At a certain point, in the history of the United Kingdom, one of our favorite nations. Yes. Mama Mia was the highest grossing film of all time. I only know that because you shared it with me. It's an insane fact. It made a lot of money. A lot. It was a really big hit, which you understand why.

It is Merrill Streep, Pierce Brosnan, Stellan Scarsgard, Colin Firth. Yes. Amanda Seifred. Do you consider Amanda Seifre to be a famous movie star? I think she's famous in the movie musical scene. And also, I love Big Love, but no, I don't consider her famous movie star. Do you? I think she's actually been in a surprising number of successful movies. She has. Including Mamma Mia and Les Mis. Yes. I love, love her parts in LeMay's. I listen to them on Spotify often.

I just want to say, Mommy and One had a budget of 52 million and worldwide made $609 million. Incredible. That's an insane return. Like, that is just absolutely wild. I can't believe it. So here's why I like this movie and both movies. And I was looking for this quote and I couldn't find it, but I swear to you that Meryl Streep gave an interview where she talked about the decision to star in Mamma Mia One. And she was like, yes, I too would like to go to a Greek island for the summer and go on vacation. So that's why I did it.

And honestly, you can tell that that the whole movie is a bunch of people wanted to go to a Greek island and have some fun and then get paid for it, which is a great movie aesthetic. It's a great life aesthetic. It's really all I want to do at any point. Please send me to Greece and pay me for it. It really fits my personal view of musicals because I love, love, love musicals, stage and screen. Yes, you do. And after I watch them, I just am overcome with envy.

I'm just like, God, that seems like such a fun thing to be a part of. Yes. And that's how I felt at the end of Mommy is too, which is a slow build, I would say. But at the end, there's some great ensemble numbers. The super trooper number is really fantastic. And I was just bouncing in my seat. having a great time on a random Tuesday. So as you know, I don't share your enthusiasm for musicals on a broad basis.

You know, I like them. If you have a great musical, I'm on board with you. But in general, singing makes me uncomfortable. We've discussed this. It's a theme on this podcast. Yes. I was thinking a lot about this. Number one, I love Abba.

Like, I just really, really, really like these songs. Great pop songs. Yes. Like, don't add me. There is something about the fact that it's a jukebox musical and also these people are here to just have fun. So they're trying, but they're not trying their hardest. It's not people really earnestly singing opera to you. They're having fun and there is a little bit of in-joke built into it.

Yeah. Kind of like La La Land, but even more just like we're having fun, it's not serious. And that makes, that is far more comfortable for me. I can really get down with that. It's when people are revealing their soul to you via singing that I just, you know, inch back. This takes us to Lily James. Yeah. Who all she revealed is that she should be a star.

I have the exact same thought. So let's explain, Mamma Mia too. Yes. Here we go again. Mama, here we go again. How could I forget you? I was just saying our producers before this, I feel certain that they just, they made this sequel only because the lyrics were Mamma Mia, here we go again.

Yes, definitely. We got it. Why not? And because there's so much money to be made. so much money, but sure. Yeah. And so the premise of Mama Mia, here we go again, is that Donna, the character played by Merrill Streep, has died.

A year before, they don't tell us how. Doesn't matter. Details and logic are scant in this movie, and that's fine. So Amanda Seifred's character whose name I don't even remember because it doesn't matter. It's Sophie. Sophie, yes, thank you. You're welcome. Sophie has renovated the hotel into, quite frankly, a lovely boutique.

Yes, a hotel situation would love to. to stay there and is reopening it and has invited her three dads. And that is kind of the present day timeline. Yes. And there are also flashbacks. They are all remembering Donna and working through their grief and they are flashing back to highlights from Donna's life. I would say it's like 60% flashbacks.

Yes. Maybe 65. Young Donna is played by Lily James. Lily James, also known as Cousin Rose probably to the listeners of this podcast. Yes. And also the waitress and baby driver. cousin rose from downabby, of course. But I thought of a lot without saying.

So number one, respect to Lily James for being like, sure, I'll play young Meryl Streep. No problem. That takes a lot of balls. Yes. I mean, it would for me. The problem might be that she was like, yes, I deserve to play Meryl Streep, which that's a different conversation. But I'm going to give her credit.

Yes. Because I thought she was delightful. Me too. Delightful. And also overwhelmingly beautiful. Like, just so pretty with great outfits, good wavy hair. Yeah. Dark eyebrows, light hair, which I think that she pulls off perhaps the best of anyone in the history of cinema. Wow. You're really on the Lily James trade. Keep going. I'm with you. I enjoyed it. I was captivated by her beauty. Yeah. So she also is essentially isolated in these flashbacks. She, it's Lily James and a bunch of non-famous people because they have young actors play the various, the three dads. Yes. None of whom I knew. I didn't either. The one who plays young, still. and Scarsguard was quite handsome.

Quite handsome. Yeah, good for him. The ratio of young to old hotness was the most out of whack with young Snell and Scarsgard. I'm sorry to say. I was, like, a little confused by the guy playing young Colin Firth. He was trying a little too hard, in my opinion. I believe his name is Jeremy. No.

His name is Hugh Skinner. Okay. He was really doing a lot, but he got to sing Waterloo. That's true. They staged Waterloo at a French restaurant, which I enjoyed. My, my. At Waterloo, Napoleon did surrender. Oh, yeah.

And I have met my destiny in quite a single way. So Lily James is stuck with these people you've never heard of. She's doing all the work. She doesn't get to hang out with any of the other famous people until the very end. So I really admire that. And I think she kind of pulls it off. She certainly is radiant. Kind of.

Now. She nailed it. She nailed it. Now. Two things. one, the storytelling device is weak at best. So she's kind of, I think she does kind of get stuck with some of the less fun plot stuff and also, I guess that's not true actually, because the present day one's really tough. Anyway, she's isolated and she gets not very good ABA songs because

they used all the great ones in the first one. She all, yes, not great Ava songs and more crucially, horrific costumes for when she's doing Donna and the Dinamos. That's true. Some of that's just the 70s. I know, but like there's some, there's some, there's some good. good-looking disco. They could have gone the Casey Musgraves route of being very disco but also

a little modern. They were just like, fuck, no, we're going full mama Mia as campy as possible. Well, that's literally the whole point of the group of dead and ruffles.

So she still looks great. She can pull it off. Here's what I want to say. Not everyone agrees with us. I can't believe that. So not only, so I saw it with my mother and my husband and my husband

was just like that was the worst performance I've ever seen. But then I also read the piece in the New York Times by our friend Wesley Morris who also did not carefully.

Lily James's performance. Yeah. I'm going to have to text Wesley about that. I know. I would just say that she has the jam session endorsement. She was great. I saw with my friends and he loved Lily James. We both were uncomfortable afterwards. We're just like, wow, she's so hot. Yeah. It's really rough. Also, I was really like in the tank for her when she was wearing the blue T-shirt that like tied up a little bit in the long orange skirt. I was just like, this is a Madewell outfit. Send it to me right now. She looked great. Yeah. So this was not. I guess. the other question is, though, like, did you like Cousin Rose on Downton Abbey? I did, actually. I did, do.

She was the most progressive member of the family. And she was the nicest. She was very warm. I think that some of my husband's resistance was to her ra-ra-ness. She is, like, really excited throughout the whole movie, which is the whole point of the movie. There's no point showing up and being cynical about it. Also, if you were having three concurrent affairs with very handsome young men, wouldn't you be very rah-rah and happy? Yeah, but she's the same on Dantanabby.

Cousin Rose is just the sunshine. Important note about Lily James, she dates Prince Philip from the crown, Matt Smith. Yeah. Which there's a real discrepancy in likability there in Q score. Hers is phenomenally higher. You're judging Prince Philip and not Matt Smith. He's doing his best. I think he's handsome.

You do? That's just me. He's interesting handsome, but I think he's handsome. As you know, I don't like interesting handsome. I like very, like pretty handsome. I also usually like pretty handsome, but I kind of get what is going on there. Question for you.

Yes. Spoiler alert, everybody. I'm sure this is really devastating for the Mamma Mia fans out there. Did you know Merrill Streep was in this movie? I didn't. So she appears for the last three minutes, literally, for two musical numbers.

Yes. How many days on set do you think she clocked? So I think she has to be there for at least two days? I was in a go maximum four minimum two. Yeah, I think minimum two because there are two different scenes, right? She has the kind of ghost scene when she sings

in the chapel at the christening. And that takes a full day because of all the different angles and the musical numbers take a lot. And it's an ensemble, two ensemble scenes. So it's like a lot of people's schedules need to match up. She's also in the delightful number at the end,

Super Trooper, when everyone is in the most ridiculous costumes. It's like, Waterloo in the first movie at the end where they're just doing it for fun. But she is not in that the whole time. So I think they probably could have filmed just her parts in a day. Yes. So I think two. Okay. I think that Cher was probably there for a day. A day. One day. One day. Yes. Because she stands in one place on one set to sing both songs. Two costumes. Yes. Yeah. Though I have to say the Cher, Andy Garcia, Fernando, duet. It was very good. I should have seen, spoiler alert, I did not see that his name was

Fernando coming. Like, I didn't see that reveal. I should have because it's the laziest script writing in history, but I was delighted. Me too. It was really good. And then he is dancing back up when she is singing Super Trooper, which was really also delightful. Just so good. Another person who I'm very confused about their time commitment, Dominant Cooper. Yeah. I also, I also also feel really bad because Amanda Seyfried and Dominic Cooper dated. Yes, after Mama Mia. And then it was a very bad breakup, as I understand. And she spent like three years given interviews, like a lure about how she was really upset after her breakup.

And it was really, really tough. She was working through that in public. She's still working through it because she's been giving interviews on this press tour about how her husband and father of her child, Thomas Daski, of the newsroom. What was his name, Jim? Oh, I don't remember. I loved the newsroom. Yeah. Unironically, so.

Anyway, she's been talking to the press, but how he doesn't need to worry. She's over it. And it's like, girl, if you're talking about it. Nope. Not over it. And they have to make out. They have to pretend that they love each other and want to have a baby. There's a lot of things that happen in the plot that just seems like it was a result of people's schedules and also feuds.

Like, for example, his character is in, like, New York for a lot of the movie. Yes. Like learning about the hotel industry, shadowing at like a fancy hotel. And then he comes back with dancing queen playing. It's actually a great scene. But they probably had to interact for what? Maximum five days. I would assume a week, yes.

The wrinkle with a musical, though, is you'd film it, but then you also have to go to the recording studio. Right. So that adds a few days. I bet Merrill puts more time in the recording studio than she did on set in Croatia, not Greece. Right. Huge island controversy. And as the official podcast of Summer and also Islands. And the Adriatic and the Mediterranean.

Exactly. We need to keep you updated on this. The first Mamma Mia movie was set in Greece on a fictional island, but it was filmed on a real island, Scopoulos. Oh. The second Mamma Mia movie was filled on a Croatian island. Very clearly. And they really use the woods a lot because I think it's harder to differentiate between, like, woodsy scenes than various rocky, I mean, Greece's rocky beaches are so famous with all of the hills and everything. Croatia is less so, except for like Kings Landing.

But it's very obvious when you're not in Greece because Greece is so distinct. And it's funny, like, I was discussed on this podcast, I'm planning vacation to Europe in September. And I was thinking about going to Greece with my friend. And she was like, I was telling her I was going to go see Mom Mia. And she's like, you're going to want to go to Greece after like, just you've been warned. And I was like, okay, whatever, I'll live. And then I was like, my Greece desire has not risen because this was very clearly not Greece.

I thought it was beautiful. Why don't you want to go? I know. I do want to go. Those trees are great. I just, I need to commit some emotional energy. to the Adriatic, probably in like 2019, 2020. But right now I'm still focused on Mediterranean.

Okay, we'll keep monitoring this situation. Yeah. Anyway, the people of Greece and particularly Skopoulos were quite upset, which I get it. Yeah. It's a real loss of money. Because now they're not the only Mamma Mia island. Yeah. Yeah.

What do you think? Well, I did Merrill say no and then ultimately well convinced her to say yes, other than money. And how much do you think she got paid for her, like, let's say a total of one week's time, including recording studio and, eh, let's go 10 days. I bet it was a 10-day commitment to be in Mamma Mia, too. Five million? I was going to go with two. I bet you're right, though.

Well, I don't know. So I guess we learned on Devil Wars Prada that she was paid $5 or $6 million for Devil Wears Prada. Yeah, to be the lead. So, but inflation, plus she can do whatever she wants and they know how much money they're going to make off of it. I would say maybe two to three. Maybe that's right. We'll put it in the two to five range. I feel like she liked.

making Mamma Mia. Right? There are all the stories about her partying with Christine Bransky. Followed up by their partying during Into the Woods. Those two are like buddies. I love it. Right. It's a great friendship. And Merrill doesn't seem like a particularly spiteful or rude person. So I don't think she wanted to be in the full movie because she's Meryl Streep and she's got other shit to do. Yeah. But I think that she agreed to be in a scene because they need it to make the thing go and she likes these people. That would be my guess. Also, Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson are producers. executive producers on this. It's a playtone film. Right. So you have to imagine that that had something to do with it. I have a question. Would you have preferred running back Mamma Mia 1 with Merrill and the three dudes with a side of Amanda Safreed? Or are you happy that they pivoted and we fell into this Lily James field?

Well, the real problem that you're facing when you're writing Mamma Mia 2, and we already talked about this and Wesley pointed out in his piece as well, is that they've used up all the good songs. Yes. So if I'm imagining, Merrill could carry off some of the boring songs, but Pierce Brosnan trying to sing a C-Lis Abba song, you don't know. No one wants to be a part of that. I think that I'm not that interested in the three guys. Maybe that's Agest. But I was just like, Colin Firth, I love you, but I'd rather watch Bridget Jones's baby

for my recent Colin Firth. I was delighted. Every time he showed up, I think he's aging quite well. And the dancing queen scene when he's kind of draping himself over the ship and dancing, that was delightful. I have like almost no memory of Mommy a one. I was like, I think he's the real father, but I just think that because he's calling for it. He is the real father, right? Do we know that? I believe so because at the end, he's talking about, they're talking about like what the baby's going to look like. And he's like, I hope he has my eyes. And so I thought that we learned that he was the real father. Oh, I thought maybe he was just making a joke. Oh, I was really too much into it.

In my head, Colin Firth is like unassailable. Okay. It's very weird that Pierce Brosnan was James Bond and now he's like the sixth lead in Mamma Mia 2. Here we go again. Very strange. Very strange. But that one holds for Daniel Craig. I would love a musical turn from Daniel Craig.

I don't think Daniel Craig has this silly bone in him that could let him do this. And that's why he's better James Bond and that's why he should not be in Mamma Mia 3. Obviously Pierce Brosden's Apex Mountain was Mrs. Doubtfire. Everyone knows. Thomas Cron Affair. Come on. All right. Come on.

That too. Thank you. Wow. Show us of respect. One and two. Just a really, I had a fun time. It's like an objectively bad movie with like a lot of problem, like plot holes. 100%.

Did it take us this long to say that? It's not good. Who cares? Had a delightful time. Delightful. I had a really, I was like flagging. I stupidly went to a late show on Tuesday, but I was like, I'm going to walk around the mall.

It'll be fun. And I was flagging. And then I really like my energy just kicked up about 25 minutes. And I started having a great time. It's really. nice to make fun movies that you can take your parents to. Please do more of that. And if they also feature summer, that's great. Then we can talk about them on the official podcast of summer. I have another note on aesthetics before we move on. Yeah, let's do it. First of all, I did not like

Amanda Safe Reed's makeup and there were so many tight, tight shots on her face, which leads me to a second observation, which is in the finale when they finally got Merrill and Sharon in the same room. Yes. Amanda Safe Reed's boobs are way bigger. Amanda Safe Reed's just had a baby. Yes. And so I'm just assuming that her roles must have, like, straddled some time where she, like, was, like, in between phases or whatever. And I was like, oh, she's nursing in this final scene. I could tell. And I think it's also one of the reasons there's so many close-ups on her face is because of her pregnancy. Yeah, I think timing-wise in terms of when she had the kid, that makes sense. Yeah. Because you have to assume this was filmed last summer. Must have been. Yeah. I'm sure we could go back and look for picks. Tough stuff for her and Dominic Cooper. Also, Dominic Cooper, like, looks like he's 15 years older. It's only been. It was tough.

The passage of time in this film is tough for everyone. I know. Real mortality gut check. Yeah. How we're all feeling about this stuff. It was good. I'm just delighted that you enjoyed a musical. It makes me really happy.

Thanks so much. Anytime. Thanks me so happy. Also, I just want to say, one of the other reasons I ended up going to a 930 show. Yes. 745 was like basically sold out at Century City. That's great news. I know.

The Arklight not sold out at all. All the snobs of the Arklight. That's why I didn't want to see it there. Yeah. I was like, it's not going to be fun. It was half. empty at the Arklight on a Saturday afternoon. The Arklight is not where you go for a confectionary movie.

The Arklight's where you go for like a foreign film. They should though. There was a Onion video. They do kind of like fake film reviews and the Onion style. And the whole point was the guy making fun of people for being soulless and not being able to enjoy this movie at face value. And I would agree with that. Open your hearts.

Open your hearts to fun and joy. And Greek islands and Croatian Islands. and Croatian Islands. Yeah. So many wonderful seas. And we're going to talk more about life on the high seas for the wealthy and attractive. But first, let's talk about today's sponsor, Hotel Tonight. If you love to score amazing deals at incredible hotels, you'll love Hotel Tonight.

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And it was last seen at a crucial time in off the coast of Italy. That's where the real yacht action happens. All around Capri. Yeah. And Amanda, who are some of the VIPs on the David Geffen Yacht? I'm so glad you asked. Paul McCartney. Paul McCartney.

Why not? Why not? Barry Diller. Yes. No Diane von Furstenberg in case you were wondering. Misha Nounu, who we should talk, we'll talk more about. But she's a fashion designer and she is the. person who famously set up Prince Harry and Megan Markle.

Yes. She was there with her boyfriend. And then Carly Claus and Josh Kushner. Who just got engaged? They did just get engaged. They were apparently engaged while they were on the yacht, but she was hiding her ring. Oh, interesting. Yeah.

Apparently, it was several weeks ago on a romantic trip upstate. Wow. We should say to discuss all this, we brought in a ringer. A wonderful celebrity watcher himself, Andrew Godadaro. Hey, what's up guys? Hi, Andrew. We're really, we've been tracking yacht season. thrilled to be here for this.

Yeah. And this is probably the peak. It's pretty wild. Their other yacht trip currently happening is Jayzee and Beyonce, and they're renting a yacht from the owner of the Jacktonville, or from the, yeah, from the Jaguars.

Oh, yes. Right. Shaheed Khan. Yeah. They have been traveling for a while. I know. Yeah. It coincides with their European tour.

Andrew, how long do you think that you could spend on a boat before getting stir crazy? This, these boats are like bigger than my apartment. Okay. So my entire life is my answer. Is it? like a goal for you? No, no.

Like maybe not a goal. A dream? No, I'm never trying to live on the water. Okay. Oh, interesting. So are you anti-setting? No sea legs. All right.

Fair enough. Okay. Who do you think is the most bizarre member of this traveling crew of the Geffen Yacht? Paul. Paul kind of looks out of place a little bit, but definitely Carly Clause. Yeah. So Carly Kloss is like a noted progressive. She's like down for the female cause.

Sure. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Time on number one. Noted progressive is that Carly Klaus tweets some shit about going to marches and being with her while agreeing to marry Josh Kushner. She's also learning how to code.

Yeah. Yeah. Then she's agreeing to marry Josh Kushner. And like I'm just like, Carly, what are you doing? Right. Also apparently. W-Y-D. Right.

Yes. What you, yeah, sure. Also, I recently read a blind gossip item that I was pretty sure was about Carly Klaus, which is that her whole NYU coding thing, she's not really participating in that anymore. She doesn't show up for class, etc. Fascinating. And she may. This I can't believe.

The whole Kushner situation really just is like, makes talking about Carly Klaus' gigantic engagement ring less fun. Yeah. Because we're like, we know where this money is from. Not to say he's like involved in all of his brother's business dealings, but the Kushner family has a long, a long history of sketchiness and, like, legal trouble. That's true. So we should say a couple of things. They've been together for six years.

Yes. So before the presidency of it all. Sure. Though I think the writing was on the wall a little bit about who the Kushners were. Yes. Definitely since the father, Kushner was a now. Yes. They both attended the March for Our Lives.

Yes, they did. And Josh Kushner was spotted at the Women's March the day after Trump was inaugurated. Got it. Though he said that he was just quote observing. Sure. But a pretty decent subject to go out and be photographed among the million people protesting your brother's father-in-law. He is really cute.

I just have to say it. I don't know. We can't have an honest conversation if we're not talking about the fact that he's like really cute. And Carly Kloss has known him since she was 19. And sometimes you just kind of go with the flow of things. The heart wants with the heart wants. It does. He looks a lot to me like Mishanone's boyfriend, Mikey Hess.

Both these guys are very good friends with Scooter Braun. Okay. And they are like often seen like doing trips together. The bronze travels so much. Good for them. Yeah. It seems like they, oh, by the way, they're having a girl per the gender reveal on their Instagram yesterday.

All right. And ever since Justin Bue were moving 2010, I've just been obsessed with them. It's well documented on this podcast. Yeah. Yeah. But that's just like. kind of, that's like a crew. It's sort of the next wave of billionaires is like Scooter and his friends. And it makes sense. Like David Geffen is like a music titan who's passing the mantle

over to Scooter and his friends. And they're kind of like learning in in the yacht season. And Scooter had his own yacht that he was on with his family. They just got back like a week ago. Right. I think that we've kind of skipped over the Mikey Hess, the last name being Hess as in Hess oil and gas. So Scooter is the least rich person in this triangle. He's just like a red kid from Greenwich. Exactly. This is, each of these people on the yacht could afford their own yacht. Yes, but they've chosen just to hang together.

Or at least, I think, could Carly Claus afford a yacht? I think so. She could rent one. Yeah. It probably wouldn't be a prudent financial decision to buy. No, I don't think any of these people, I guess David Geffen probably owns his own yacht, but for the most part, I don't think they own them. He owns several yachts. I read the Wikipedia page about his kind of yacht journey.

Really? Yeah. It seems like a bad investment. What'd you learn? Just that he bought one. He sold a, he bought a, he bought a, he bought a, another from a Russian oligarchs ex-wife. They each cost hundreds of millions of dollars.

They're terrible investments. Terrible. Yeah. Depreciating immediately. Right. Even worse than a car and it's depreciation value. Definitely. It's pretty wild. I think Paul McCartney is just sort of needs to be addressed here.

I was going to say, who is the most confused about what's happening? Absolutely, Paul McCartney. It's 100% Paul. Paul McCartney strikes me as a man who does really still care about his crap. in his music. And he's probably like, who are these people that don't have jobs? I think it's, yes, I think that's true. I think he's also been so famous for so long and was far more famous than any of these people. Like, Carly Class is not even close to the level of fame that Paul McCartney had. So he's just in his own bubble where you can't really penetrate it,

I guess. Yeah, totally. And he's just sort of like, who are these youngsters? Yeah. But I'm sure he enjoyed the yacht. It looks like a nice yacht. Yeah, it seems that they're having a great time. Another subplot related to the engagement of Carly Klaus and Josh Kushner, Carly Klaus called all of her B-F-Fs for B-Fri's. Yes. To, do you guys know those necklaces that you, it's like best friend necklaces? One person gets B-Fri in their heart and the other gets street ends.

It's like B-E-E-B-E-B-E-B-E-B-R-I-R-I-B-R-I-B-E-S. Is this new or is this like what we did in? It's a child. Fourth grade. Fourth grade, yeah, yeah. Be fries and street ends. Okay. So she called all her beef fries and recorded how they responded to her engagement.

Yeah. Very notably did not call Taylor Swift. That's true. Or she did not post Taylor Swift's reaction. Correct. Yeah. That's a better way of putting it. Which kind of equals the same thing.

It's a snuff. Yeah. It's an indicator. It's an indicator. I don't know if it's a snow because, Maybe they didn't talk. Maybe they're not friends anymore. Maybe Taylor Swift is really super political and she's offended that Carly Klaus is marrying Kushner.

I bet that's it. Don't you? That's got to be it. Yeah, I bet. Will we ever find out what happened between them? No, probably not. Maybe. No, because Taylor Swift is never, ever going to divulge anything.

And I assume she makes everyone in her life signed NDAs. So probably not. I feel like Carly Kloss has taken the Taylor Swift route of trying to go out of her way to, like, like through absences and through omissions making it clear who she's down with and it's not Taylor Swift. And I feel like that's what

younger Taylor used to do. That's true. Yeah. So she learned from her former friend. Can we talk about who she did call? Yes, I'd love to. She called her sisters and her mom,

which is good. And then also Serena Williams. Yes. Okay. And Princess Beatrice. Not even Eugenie. Beatrice. Incredible.

Which, so I guess we have to say at this point, there's a lot of evidence for like a royal adjacent crew, right? So Misha Nounio is definitely adjacent via, she's not adjacent, she's part of the Megan, Prince Harry circle. Yes. Which, and then Carly. Serena. Exactly.

So Carly, Serena, Misha. And then apparently Princess Beatrice warmed her way into this, even though she's not the cool one. That's Eugenie. Eugene is great on Instagram. I recommend that fall. I'll give her a follow. And you can get ready

because she's going to get married in the fall. It'll be like a lesser royal wedding, but we can still watch it. Yeah, absolutely. Can't wait. Yeah. My note here is Serena Williams

seems pretty available. I think you could be friends with her if you tried hard enough. I do. She just seems like she's out there if you want some FaceTime. Well, tennis is really lonely. She's just been traveling

from tournament to tournament for 17 years now, a really long time. you're always on the road. You play by yourself. She already dated and broke up with her coach, and now that's awkward, and he's still following her around. And then now she's got her husband and she's got her daughter, but she has some bandwidth

for some more people, especially via FaceTime. One thing I'm enjoying is I feel like she and Alexis O'Hanian are falling more in love as they venture deeper into their marriage. And it's really sweet to watch. I love that guy. That guy's awesome. I think he seems great, too. He's really, really earnest and nerdy, but he's kind of best-case Silicon Valley?

Definitely. Definitely. And that's because he doesn't live in Silicon Valley. That's true. If you're going to be a tech, Zion, don't move to California. He's just sending her on trips to Italy, like at a moment's notice. He's just a great guy. Even if it's just for Instagram?

Yeah. I like it. I do too. I think it's not just for Instagram, though. He was very charming on the Being Serena HBO series. Did not watch. I have only seen a few of them, but he's, I mean, he's quite comfortable in front of a camera. We'll give him that.

But he sticks to the script of just completely worshipping Serino, which is great. Good. And he's pretty candid. He's cute with the kid. That kid's so cute. He's wearing graphic t-shirts, like, all the time. Yeah. I love it.

This is a way better celebrity scene than the darker celebrity scenes, like the Kardashians and, like, the TMZ set. These people don't really end up on CMZ very often. This is very much Daily Mailcore and very much nuts. TMZ. And Instagram core to an extent. Yeah. And I find that way more fun. I agree.

Except for the weird political stuff on the Friends is here, which it's tough. But otherwise, they're a pretty fun group of people to watch. I completely, completely agree. Let's move back to America. Okay. Straight to the beaches of Malibu, where Andrew is an expert. Andrew. Reporting from the scene.

What's been happening in Malibu? So a guy by the name of Leonardo to California. Caprio. Who? Have you heard of him? What? Who's that? He's an actor.

Okay. He has taken up a hobby and it is beach volleyball. Why not? Yeah, I guess. He's played beach volleyball in Malibu three times in the last three weeks. Once with Sean Penn. Okay. Once with Ansel El Gort.

Amazing. Incredible. Who was 19 years younger than Leonardo DiCaprio. That's depressing for everyone. And this past week with Scott E. Eastwood, who is like 10 years younger than Leonardo DiCaprio. Yes. It is a very strange trend that's happening right now.

Andrew, what does Leonardo DiCaprio wear when playing beach volleyball? He wears a white t-shirt while everyone else wears no shirts. I mean, I suppose he's just aware that the paparazzi are going to be watching him. Yeah. Although in the past he hasn't really shown a hesitancy to take his shirt off. when frolicing. I think he's looking quite trim, by the way. He looks fine.

Okay. Yes, I do. He's filming this Tarantino movie. Right. A mere blocks away. So he has to be in shape, I suppose. Question for you guys. Yes.

Does Leonardo DiCaprio helicopter in and out of Hollywood, or does he stay in Hollywood while he's filming here? I think he stays. I think he probably does, too. I think he stays because he's, quote, concerned about the environment. And so he couldn't be commuting by helicopter because that's, doesn't. It's quite bad for the environment.

Yeah, that doesn't align with his values. He was the first famous Prius owner. Okay. He was. I'm just saying. You're like, you know, let's give him some credit. I was going to give him credit for just really being an icon of summer. Yeah.

I didn't even know whether those jetpack photos were taken during the summer, but they are certainly a representative of the mood that is summer. He really does summer right between like city bikes. and the Super Soaker fight from 2014. Yeah. So just Jared, the kind of the Leo owning a Prius of Celebrity Photo Blogs, has this headline. Leonardo DiCaprio adds Scott Eastwood to his volleyball squad.

Okay. That would be incredible if he actually made a team head practices. The squad phenomenon is interesting. It's like Leo doesn't have a squad. Taylor has a squad. Leo has a posse. It's the posy posy posy. Yes.

And like maybe you can get an invite to hang out with them occasionally. Right. But to say that Leonardo Caber has a squad is like, borderline offensive to me. I'm like, let's get this guy some more credit. It's also like just because he gives you one invitation, it's not like you're in. Yeah, that's the thing. It seems like a one-time thing. Like Ansel Al Goret's not coming back to play volleyball again.

Maybe he's just auditioning people to be on his volleyball. They're tri-ups. These are essentially trios. He is known for assembling. Leonardo DiCaprio doesn't go around solo. He always has a group of people around him. And it has been more than just the posse. Like the famous Jonah Hill photos, there are kind of eight other people.

He has an entourage. Oh, absolutely. Right. He's not a solo creature. His friendship with Jonah Hill is one of my favorite things about him. Yeah. It is good. It's like, it's special.

It's really special. The other thing with Leonardo DiCaprio is I just, every time I see him now, I still think about him and his noise. canceling headphones. So I do also. Like literally every single time. Andrew, do you know that anecdote? No, tell me about it right now.

Okay. This is possibly the greatest moment in jam session history. Can we actually play that clip? The friend claims that while Leo and the woman were engaging in sexual intercourse, Leo, and this is in quotes, reached for his vaporizer and a pair of noise canceling headphones, laid back and closed his eyes and signaled for her to keep going. I mean, I actually am speechless. I just cannot believe this.

That is just so offensive. And then they legit claim that the song he was listening to was Electric Feel by MGMT. Can you hot dates dying? That's his sex choice. Like, of all. Okay, okay. Is there any song that would be okay to listen to on noise canceling is that? headphones?

There's one. Okay, what is it? Climax by Usher. That's the only one. He listens to MGMT in noise-canceling headphones while people perform sex acts. Oh, right. On him. This is, but on him.

That's true. On him. I guess, yeah. On him. He's like taking some like live action porn. He's receiving sexual acts. I mean, that's not without said the realm of possibility. Sure.

Again, by the way, this is not confirmed. Not confirmed. That's true. Let me just like, please, it's a thing that people say that we have not verified it anyway. If I ever met him, I would ask. Okay, you would. I would have, like, three shots. I do believe this about you.

And then I would ask. I absolutely would. I know. Because I probably would never see him again, so what's the difference? It would probably be like my one-time invite to volleyball, and I'd have to make the most of it. And making the most of it would be like, Leonardo DiCaprio, is it true? You can just play electric field. What answer are you hoping for there?

I think yes. Okay. It's so demeaning and so rude and so, like, sick. Yes. But just an incredible rumor that I've committed so much energy to that if it weren't true, it would be like a kid learning that Santa Claus was fake. I agree with that. I agree with you. And it doesn't align with our values, but also I would be so disappointed if I had invested so much energy in knowing this and carrying it around and sharing it with people and it not being true.

Probably a similar to dilemma to how Carly Claus feels about marrying to the Kushner family You know? Right. It doesn't align with her values

but she has committed so much time and energy It's just so very hard for her to move forward otherwise. Yeah. Also part of this Just Jared headline

is Scotty's Wood. Scotty's Wood never going to happen. Stop trying. It's really not. I don't want him to force on me either. He's pretty handsome though. You know who I want to get the invite?

Channing Tatum. I would like him to get to get a one day invite to the sky. I want to see Brad Pitt out there. Brad Pitt, who's also been living quite a 2018 in his own way. Yeah, Brad can get out there. Yeah. I mean, how is Leo not like, hey, dude, we just played beach volleyball yesterday.

You want to come next week? Yeah, they are seeing each other co-workers right now, their colleagues on a movie set. Right. It's kind of amazing that Brad Pitt and Leonardo DiCaprio have not been in a movie dealer before. That's true, but they were kind of too... Both too hot? Yeah. Flying too close to the sun.

Exactly. Separate orbits, though. Now things have changed, and so they're, they compliment each other as opposed to eclipsing each other. That's what I would say. I'm quite excited about it. I am too. I think it's the best and worst idea for a movie ever in history. I'm really, really looking forward to it, and I'm also concerned that Quentin Tarantino

handling the Sharon Tate murder may not really be the most responsible of moviegoing experiences. Just some thoughts that I have, you know. Sure. In the moment, it'll be just really fun, though. It'll be delightful. Hopefully it won't be an offensive to take Tarantino film. Well, it's quite Tarantino. So these are my concerns.

But the pictures from the set, all of them in costumes. And a few blocks away, like, do we walk over? I don't know. Yesterday on the Daily Mail, they also had pictures of the crowds waiting outside of the restaurant to see them. They closed Hollywood Boulevard. I feel like Andrew's getting a real Hollywood experience this week. So can I tell you something amazing? So Andrew and I went to dinner last night because he was in town.

Where did you go? We went to Salazar. Oh, lovely. And it's great that you asked because geography is important here. We were at Salazar, which is on the east side. Close to where Brad Pitt does his welding. Yes, he does. And then we drove back to Hollywood where Andrew's staying, and I drove him home.

And then Andrew got a crash celebrity tour of Los Angeles. Oh, yes. Including driving by. Leonardo DiCaprio's high school. Yes. Oh, cool. What high school is that? Well, I, so as we were driving by it, I was like, I'm 90% sure that that one, that's like,

John Marshall High School or something in Los Gilles. He went there? I think someone told me that. I knew this is going to happen. We were driving and I was like, I'm pretty sure that that was his high school, but then Juliet's going to correct me on the podcast, and I'm not going to fact check it before that. That's my district.

I know. I have children and they grew up in this district. Part of the celebrity tour was pointing out that Juliet lives that way. Then I hope you pointed out Chris Ryan's house as well. I did. I pointed out the general direction of where Angelina Jolie lives. And then we drove by the Oaks and that's where Father John Misty and Dakota Johnson got coffee that one time. All the best.

All the best highlights. And also a really important Ringer landmark. Yes. Because in the early days of the ringer, we rented a house a few blocks away and would go to the Oaks for a breakfast burrito, a vegan donut. Yes. And like, hopefully see a celebrity. We weren't that busy back then. When I came to visit, I did in fact go to the Oaks and I did in fact see Father John Misty there.

Yes. Wow. Me, Chris Ryan and Father John Misty. It was a staple of the first. three months of the ringer. Yeah. It was really important. Wow.

I mean, maybe we should just put a map in the description of this podcast as well. We could do a jam session celebrity tour. That would be fine. It'd be like the TMZ celebrity tour with a jam session. It would include like really obscure celebrities only if people care about. A lot of who's as in the Who Weekly, you know? Yes. And just only on the like three blocks of Los Angeles.

Only Los Angeles, obviously. Andrew, would you give it a five-star rating? I would. It was really fun. Okay. I learned a lot. That's great. New business.

That's wonderful. A new business and a new team. tagline on this podcast. What a time. It's high time for celebrities. We'll keep documenting them. Congrats to Carly Clause. Good luck with your conscience. David Geffen, have a great summer. We'll be back in two weeks.