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Guys, your girls are back.
Welcome to Tea Time.
This is a weekly pop culture podcast on the Ringer Podcast Network.
I'm Wes Kelly.
I'm Keith Hallowall.
And I'm Amelia Weddemeier.
And today we're taking stock of L. Fanning at Cannes.
Doing great.
Yeah.
Investigating the James Charles Tati Westbrook
YouTuber drama that has gripped the nation.
They really have.
Specifically.
And then we're asking why Paris Holden?
It's a great question.
Every time you hear the bell,
we have to change topics no matter what.
And now let's spill that tea.
Okay, first category is tea time checks in with, like Amelia said, it's a Cannes Film Festival.
Yeah.
All the celebs are showing now, Kate, check in with this festival.
I would love to.
So really my primary interaction with the Cannes Film Festival is just like refreshing
Getty images throughout the day.
Smart.
And looking at the outfits.
Elle Fanning, we were just talking about her last week, debating whether she's the superior
fanning.
I think this week that has been just like officially proven.
She's the youngest jury member in Cannes Film Festival history at age 21.
And like people were, even on like the press conference that they had, we're kind of like questioning that.
And basically she was like, I've been acting my entire life.
Yeah.
I've had nearly 60 roles.
And like, she was like gesturing to other people that like she'd worked with like on the panel and like basically just like, yeah, she's qualified.
Seriously, she's Sophia Coppola's muse.
Yeah.
What more do you want?
So she not only has proven that she's worthy of being a jury member, but she's worthy of just running this red carpet.
She likes phenomenal.
Phenomenal.
She really thrives at Cannes every year.
She just, like, is made for that, like, seaside, like French, like elegant beauty thing.
So she wore a bunch of great suits, very like Cape Lanchette, kind of like the resort suits where you're like, can I wear that?
No, no, definitely not.
Samantha McVillan is her stylist who I highly recommend following on Instagram.
I do.
and she wore this like Gucci peach silk gown
The opening ceremony
Very like old Hollywood
Like shoulder pads long cape looked great
And then she also wore like a Valentino
Like fairy sort of floral gown
Like flowers in her hair
She just like really thrives
Yeah
And I love it
But yeah some other we were talking about how
There are always these random ass models
Who are invited to Cannes every year
It's so weird
What do you do at Cannes?
She's been invited so many times
Literally they just go show up
Walk a couple red carpet
bits look great and go home.
And so we were annoyed by that in general, but there was one model where I was like,
okay, you can stay.
Sarah Sampayo went to the Rocket Man and premiere.
She's like a Victoria's Secret model.
Right.
And she wore really the perfect outfit for a movie about Elton John.
It was like a sequined silver tucks with like a tail that was like a cape, basically.
And yeah, it was perfect for the event.
Honestly, like sort of super over the top.
And then just real quick, Selena Gomez and Julianne Huff are also there.
They're both Louis Vuitton actress.
and I was complaining
I think last week about how Louis Vuitton just fucked over
all their celebrities at the Met Gala
their shit is just ugly lately
I know. It really is ugly. Anytime anyone shows up
in Louis Vuitton I'm like oh you poor thing like
when are you free of that contract? They did it
at the Oscars too. Yeah it's really bad
but they're both Louis Vuitton women and they actually
got treated great. It can so far.
They looked amazing. They look really good. My only note for this was
Selena Gomez looks great and she like blew a kiss to Bill Murray on the red carpet
which is like my only highlight from the
She's there for the Dead Don't Die which is the zombie movie
by Jim Darmish, which I'm very excited about.
But yeah, she and Julianne Huffe got some good
LVs. And I was like, congrats.
Especially, I know, I mean, she hasn't done
a lot of press in the last, like, two issues.
I'm talking about Selena. And then her MetGala
look last year where she's like over-tanned.
I feel she needs a couple of really solid
red carpet looks. It's kind of recover.
She's doing great so far. We're on a run.
All right. Next thing we're checking in with Amelia.
We're checking in with Keanu Reeves.
He is an A-list actor. He is
a movie star. He has been for like 20 years.
Yes. But, you know,
Every once in a while, I feel like actors have a bit of a resurgence, even though they don't need it.
And this is what's happening with Keanu right now.
For sure.
He is...
He's on fire.
He's on fire.
Okay.
So his third John Wick film is coming out this weekend, which you're...
Because out today.
Oh, okay.
It comes out today.
Kate's going to go see it.
I'm definitely going to go see it.
I'm not into the dog killing situation.
Sure.
Sure.
No, understandable.
Fair.
But anyway, he went on the late show with Stephen Colbert, and they were talking.
about John Wick, and they got on to the subject of Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure,
which they're doing a reboot of, and apparently it's going to be about, like, the universe
going to be destroyed if they don't write a song that's, like, incredible or something.
Sounds about right for both of them.
Right, yeah, exactly.
And so Stephen, so they were talking about, like, mortality, and Stephen decided to ask, like,
an impossible question kind of would be funny.
And he was like, what happens when we die, Keanu Reeves?
And everyone in the audience was like, ha, ha, ha, ha.
And then Keanu Reeves pauses.
And then he goes, I know that the ones who love us will miss us.
I watch this video.
It's like kind of gutting.
It is.
Actually, Keanu Reeves has had like some people really close to him die.
Yes.
His partner.
His partner.
His daughter.
And his daughter, yeah.
And so like, just like that level of it and like how he handled it.
And just like the simplicity of it.
It's the perfect answer.
It really is.
Also, thinking about that.
Like, Steven Colbert, don't ask him that.
There was a little bit of that on Twitter.
People were like really like doing.
a little bit of prep.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, I mean,
Stephen Colbert's also
had people close to him
die recently.
And so, I mean,
it was fine.
It was a really nice moment.
And Stephen Colbert,
his dad and like several of his siblings
died when he was really young and stuff.
But yeah,
so it was just a nice,
like, simple one.
And you could just see Keanu
just like, think for one split second.
And then be like,
I'm just going to say it.
And it's perfect.
And it was just like,
because it's like,
that's a correct answer
to like an possible question.
But it's also like a selfless answer.
It's,
I don't know, it was freaking beautiful.
He was great.
He's having a great, a great time right now.
I'm so happy for him.
Also in the news, because he's in the new Allie Wong movie for Netflix.
It's a rom-com called Always Be My Maybe.
And she basically wrote it and like cast.
I love it when like female filmmakers cast the men that like they want to be their romantic interest in these movies.
And so he shows up at the end as like her new basically like fuck buddy.
And he walks up and is like, I miss your thighs.
And they like have this exchange.
And it's just incredible.
And yeah, people were flipping out over that.
So it's definitely the summer of Kianu.
It's really is.
Also, a lot of feuds have been going on.
People are, like, bored.
It's kind of like getting into the slow part of the summer.
ABC is one of the many feuds that are currently going on.
It is Kelly Rippa versus the Bachelor franchise versus Ellen Pompeo randomly like threw her hat in the ring.
Right.
Why not?
It started when Kelly Rippa made comments about The Bachelor in general on live with Kelly and Ryan.
they were going to bring current bachelorette hannah b on set and ryan secrets told her that
and then kelly says that the show quote disgusts her it's a gross gross show she goes you know how i
feel about this show it disgust me and i thought that i was disgusted because i couldn't stand the
idea of 25 exceptional women fighting over this ordinary fella in my opinion you know how i feel ladies
are too special to be arguing over a guy blah blah blah okay mike flut yeah no kelly rippe
then the creator of like the bachelor franchise mike flies who's appeared on bachelor park
a couple of times.
Has he?
Mm-hmm.
Oh, okay, yeah.
He has tweeted back at Kelly Rippa and goes,
easy, Kelly Rippa.
The Bachelor franchise pays your salary.
Oh, shots for damn.
Then Ellen Pompeo, like, I don't know,
Borgon said or something,
looks at this, and she goes,
okay, at Fleissmeister.
That's some handle, bro.
Okay.
Your show does not pay Kelly Rippa's salary,
and we do not attack successful women
on our network,
and men certainly cannot take credit for their success.
Don't get me started.
on your show because I am a savage.
Hashtag, Bachelor, so white.
Wait, did she literally say I am a savage?
Yes.
And then she goes, hashtag Bachelor
So White.
Damn.
Wow.
I know.
Honestly, I would be afraid of messing with Ellen Pompeo
because she's been on Grease for like 20 years.
Who is the scariest opponent in this battle?
Kelly Rippa, the Bachelor franchiser, Ellen Pompeo.
Ellen Pompeo.
Ellen's a savage.
She's a savage.
Exactly.
And she's like on this show that's been around
and it's a big part of ABC.
It's like, I don't think you want to mess with her.
I don't think you want to mess with her.
I know.
Actually, I don't think, I think it, like, ended there.
Like, I don't know that Mike Price responded.
I think that was, like, shut.
Because I think he also understands, you don't mess with Ellen Papay.
Yeah.
Okay, next category.
This is this week in social media.
This was a really fun one for me personally.
Tea Times spends a good amount of time on Kardashians and the Kardashian content much to
Kate Chagrin.
But this week, Kylie announced the launch of her new brand, Kylie Skin.
Kylie's skin.
I do love skincare content.
Yes.
Agreed.
So this skincare line includes a face wash, a serum, toner moisturizers are like your classic run-on-the-mill lineup.
But the one thing that's sticking out to everybody on social media is her walnut face scrub, which this is a room full of four women.
Everybody, I'm assuming, 100% of this room, knows that there is nothing worse for your skin than those harsh exfoliants.
Yes.
Walnut in particular, because we're all these deep and things.
Because it has like the micro tears.
Yes.
Yeah.
Causes premature aging.
It makes your skin worse.
It dries you out really bad.
Ruins your moisture barrier.
Didn't she say this was like a daily walnut drug?
Which is like you should not be exfoliating daily.
She recommends it three times a week.
Which means that she, like, which means that she has never been responsible for her own skin care.
Yes.
Yes.
Because she thinks that you should scrub your face three times week.
That's obviously not true.
Anyway, Twitter had an absolute feel day with this because.
Because we all.
know now. Skin care is in enough where we're like, we're like, you got to do the chemical
exfoliants. You're going to do that. Like a physical exfoliant, maybe once a week. Right. And we already
went through this with the say knives. We just got scrub. We left that in like 2014. We did.
We can't go back. Exactly. Like we collectively as women are an advanced breed now about skincare.
You cannot be creating walnut face scrubs in 2019. Exactly. Information is out there. We've got the facts.
We don't have time for this. Absolutely. So a couple of really funny tweets goes,
girl, drop home injectables or shut up.
I agree.
I agree.
Another one,
if you really believe
that Kylie Jenner's skin
looks the way it does
from using her new skincare line,
then you deserve the consequences
of a walnut face girl.
Oh my God.
Wow, straight fire.
And then people are like,
I'm calling the police.
There's like a lot of just like different.
Very alarmist tweets going on on Twitter this week.
Wow.
And then she like just Instagram
because I was monitoring
because they are so hyper aware
of like what people are saying about them.
She posted Instagram being like, you know,
just like,
trying to relax or like some kind of like
the haters. So good luck to Kylie's skin.
Wow. Incredible. All right. What else is going on in social media?
Well, speaking of great skin, I think he has great skin. Brad Pitt showed us.
Speaking of at home injectables. He showed up at Lena Dunham's
birthday party. She celebrated her I think 33rd birthday and she posted to Instagram
and freaking Brad Pitt was there. You know, like one of the rumor, Willis's sister,
I think was there.
This was an incredible flex.
Also, because he was buried.
She, Instagram this right, in a carousel, so there's like four pictures.
I think he was not the first one.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
No, he was.
Oh, my God.
You've got to bury that at least two or three behind because you can't be like an open flex about Brad Pitt.
And she's pointing to him too.
That's absolutely what this is.
You know what I mean?
You tried to give her credit and you gave her too much.
You got to have more chill than that.
I know.
It's yikes.
That's really funny.
Lena.
He looks great though.
He looks great.
Again, I don't know he's got a glow.
It might be sweat.
He's getting ready for that once upon a time in a Hollywood press tour.
I'm so pissed about her putting this picture first.
You guys crazy.
It's like a cardinal sin.
If you're going to put your A-list person in the front photo, it's like a bad look.
Also, it's just like, this is your birthday.
Also, don't point at him.
Also, yeah, he's like, Brad Pitt.
Yeah, you're like, he's a Brad Pitt at my birthday.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm surprised too.
Exactly.
I'm a done him.
Oh, my God.
Okay, what else?
thing. Other heart throbs. Robert Patinson, it came out last night, is extremely likely to be our next
Batman. Now, we're a room of millennial women. I know we have Twilight thoughts. I'm sweating. I personally
was super into Twilight. Yes. But since then, Robert Pattinson has had a really great, super interesting
indie movie career. He and Kristen Stewart both have. And honestly, I think this is going to be good.
I'm in. I'm so excited for that. Why not? I'm extremely in for Robert Patton's Batman. I wanted him in a
Marvel movie, so this is good. This will do for me.
When I was a teen and reading those books and then watching those movies with him, I was like, I can't wait to follow him through my entire youth.
And then he, for my intense purposes, which I was not following the indie scene at that age.
So he just kind of dropped off the face of the earth.
I'm ready for him to be back.
I'm 25.
It's okay to still love and crushed over rock.
For sure.
Yeah.
He's evolved as a person.
We've evolved as people.
Exactly.
His jawline has stayed just as great as it was back then.
He looks so good.
And he's going to be a great Bruce Wayne.
Yeah.
We're all in.
Okay.
Next category, you guys, it's a little light this week.
There were not that many paparazzi pictures of Emma Roberts and Garrett Headland.
So not a lot to discuss.
We got two big things, though.
We have a fully gay T-Times' biggest relationship of news ever this week.
Very exciting.
First up, Lupita Nyango, Janelle Monet, Tessa Thompson, and Brie Larson.
What do they have in common?
Let me tell you.
Quadraple.
Okay, so this all came out last week right after we recorded, as it tends to do.
This was a big post-Metgala rumor mill.
I got a lot of DMs on Twitter asking me about this.
People basically just like lesbian Twitter is like really invested in this.
I'm going to try to do it justice.
We'll see.
So it all happened.
Elaine Welteroth, who's the former editor-in-chief Teen Vogue,
posted an Instagram story from a MetGala after party,
which shows Lupi Deni Deni Dengo and Janelle Monet,
extremely close, sort of in the background of this video.
Dene Garira is next to them just like totally oblivious.
And Janelle's like, they're really up in each other.
face. Janelle's like caressing Lupita's face.
They're like swaying together.
Extremely unplotonic looking.
Like if it was any man or woman, like
a lot of people were like, oh, they're just friends.
I'm like, okay, imagine like a man and a woman doing this.
Right, right, right. Put your biases aside and like,
except that this is not like just friends.
So it definitely looks like they're romantically linked.
Some people were like, what happened to Janelle and Tessa Thompson?
Turns out the other rumor of this party is that
Tesla Thompson actively avoided Janemone and Lupin and Yango at the Met Gala.
This is breaking my heart.
And at the same after party.
Again, this is just a rumor, but that's what they're saying is that Janelle and Tessa are done, and she was, like, actively avoiding them.
So then, this is when it gets a little, a little iffy.
This is the good part.
This is when people, like, really, like, took some liberties.
So Tessa Thompson and Brie Larson have been, like, you know, we kind of talked about how they have been flirting on social media.
We kind of thought it was just as, like, a Marvel thing.
I personally still think it's just kind of like a Marvel thing.
But people then were like, Brie Larson also just broke up with her partner.
Brie Larson and Tessa Thompson are together.
Lupita and Janelle are together.
Guys, like take a step back, take a breath.
The people can dream, Kate.
You know what I mean?
I know.
And I support it, and I would love for it to be true.
My theory is that, first of all,
Janemone just brings, like,
sexual energy to every single encounter
she's ever had in her entire life.
She and Lupita are old friends.
I don't think they're, like,
extremely serious girlfriends.
I think they could have, like,
something happening on the side.
But I personally think that this was just,
like, Genel Monet being Janel Monet.
and the Tessa Thompson and Brue Larson thing is not happening.
You don't know, but yeah, these are all rumors, but the people can't believe that's important.
But yeah, we're going to keep an eye on Lupita and Janelle and Tessa and Brie.
I'm still not over Tessa and Janelle, so like I don't remember.
I know.
I know.
And I'm still rooting for them too.
Tessa is like about to be out there with like Men in Black too.
Yes.
She's like going to be, I mean, she's like a movie star now.
She's going to be everywhere.
So like, you know, we're keeping an eye on it.
Yes.
I really don't want to transition because it's like going from like really highbrow, like beautiful action.
To what I have to say.
This is important.
Delightful.
This is delightful.
All right, you guys, you got more good news.
Okay, I'm just going to see it.
Mr. Ratburn from the famed show Arthur of all of our childhoods.
Yes.
Is married.
Wow.
To an art vark who owns a chocolate shop named Patrick.
Oh my God.
And this is big relationship news, you guys.
It is.
It is.
So, season 22.
of Arthur, premiered on Monday.
I had no idea it was still happening.
I thought that disappeared with like every other thing that I loved when I grew up.
Yeah.
For those of you who are forgetting, take your minds back.
Mr. Rappburn is Arthur's third grade teacher.
He's been his third grade teacher for 22 years.
For millions of the same age.
I assume they do.
Yeah.
And then the whole episode, I did not watch it, but I did read a recap.
The episode is like, they think,
He's marrying a lady.
And then in the ceremony, they find out that he was actually in love with the man.
This is Ardvark, who owns a talk to chat.
So I watched a little bit of it.
And it's like the...
How did you find it?
It was on PBS.com or...
Incredible.
So accessible.
Seriously.
They think this one lady who's like this power lesbian, like, this power lesbian, like, rat that turns out to be his...
No, no, she looks like a power lesbian.
And she's got the pantsuit and everything.
Oh, God, I love it.
It turns out.
to be his sister.
Wow.
Played by Jane Lynch.
Another flower.
A girl lesbian rat are three words.
He literally never thought I'd do the day.
Yeah, they show him walking down the island.
And then Patrick, the sneaky little bitch,
winks at the camera.
He does.
He breaks the fourth wall.
Fucking phenomenal.
I honestly think the most controversial part of this wedding
was what Buster the rabbit, Arthur's BFF,
wore.
Of course, Buster.
Hold on him playing this up.
He freaking wore a hippie costume.
What are you doing?
It's not.
It really isn't.
Wow, you were right.
He had the flower pans, a little berkinstocks, a headband.
Was there any context for that in the episode?
It was like, they were like, you know what you can do to make her not be in love with Ms. Ratburn if you dress like a gross hippie?
What?
Flogic by the third graders thing.
But then Buster was like, oh, I like this hippie outfit.
Oh, my God.
According to your tweet, which everyone should go check out,
these people do look a little bit old.
Arthur doesn't look like he's in third grade anymore.
He's in a full suit.
Yeah.
And he's pretty tall.
So did they grow up?
It's the same Arthur.
He's just in a suit.
It's John Legend.
You don't need to read that in what you do it.
No one wants to find.
All right.
All right, Kaya, that's fine.
Kyle's done with the Arthur discourse.
All right.
Oh, God.
No, it's only getting worse, you guys.
It really, yeah.
All right.
Everybody buckle up.
this is
tea time
investigates
you guys
the scandal that has
gripped a nation
humanity
tea time
what deeper
than it's ever
gone before
into this scandal
I was telling you guys
we started recording
I can't tell
what was like
my life before
James Charles
and like
what will happen
after
I have dedicated
my life to this
cause now
okay
we need to give a brief
explainer of who
This is.
Yes.
James Charles.
Very famous YouTube influencer.
The first male cover girl, appeared on Ellen.
He's 19 now, but he was 17 when he, like, started blowing up.
He does makeup tutorials and just, and has, like, palettes and stuff like that.
Right.
Big influencer.
On the other side is Tati Westbrook.
She's 37.
Also a makeup YouTube influencer.
Right.
James Charles has bigger numbers, but Tatee Westbrook has kind of, like, a more wholesome following, it seems like.
And she was, she, like, took him under her wing.
For sure.
And, like, helped him out.
So they have a long history together.
Yes. They've done tons of YouTube videos like the beginning.
So, okay, so then now they are at odds.
They are feuding on YouTube.
And it started with Tati Westbrook uploading a 43-minute-long video on YouTube called By Sister,
because James Charles fans, he calls them Sisters.
Sure.
He also has a clothing company called Sisters.
Yes.
This video, By Sister, has been seen 46 million times.
Are you serious?
Oh, my God.
Only one million of those by Tea Time hosts yesterday.
And it is 43 minutes of her just kind of explaining, like, just him as a human being is, like, really lost.
He's, like, a bad person.
He has made sexual advantage, like unwanted sexual advances towards men.
And then the big few, like the way this really started was James Charles supported Sugar Bear Hair, which we're all familiar with.
Which every, if you're an influencer, you've come across Sugar Bear Hair.
Yes.
And that is an opposing brand to hers, which she backs.
And she, I don't, I didn't know anything about these two people before researching it.
Apparently, she doesn't, like, sign with a lot of brands.
Like, she doesn't get paid for a lot of, like, endorsements and stuff.
She's like, she's like a very seemingly, like, kind of wholesome, trying to do her best kind of thing.
So she's not at him because he endorsed a different hair gummy than hers.
Right.
That's what it all goes back to.
That's the feud.
And then her whole video is like, there was.
so much more beyond just the like sugar bear hair gummy vitamins.
And he also made like an excuse that it was like, oh, I did it only because they were helping me with security at Coachella?
Yes. He said, this weekend, I did an Instagram story for sleep vitamins that I've been taking because the brand helped me with security when the crowd around me at Coachella became unsafe.
This was his public apology because she uploaded like a series of Instagram videos and everyone, and she didn't identify this man by name.
She was like, I feel betrayed, blah, blah.
and then that prompted her to upload this huge video talking about James Charles.
Right.
So this goes back, like, very deep.
Like, she did take him under his wing, her wing.
Her and her husband were very close to James Charles.
She also refers to James Charles by James Charles, like, throughout this entire thing,
which I feel like is kind of weird.
Yeah.
He did her makeup at her wedding and stuff.
And, like, she flew him there for free and, like, housed him because, like, he couldn't get there.
And then, yeah, like, really gave him his start and, like, projected him upwards.
So there's a lot of bad blood.
Amelia and I, we both watched all 43 minutes, correct?
Yeah, Kaya, did you watch all 43?
I think I got to like 30 minutes in and then I skipped that.
That's respectful.
Incredible commitment from all of you.
I feel privileged to be sitting in this room with such utmost professionals.
Kate, did you watch any of this video?
I did not.
I have to say that watching all of you process it via Slack and be like, I'm 10 minutes
in, I want to die.
Like, I'm 20 minutes and I beg for like the sweet release of death.
Yes.
It was really just better than I can imagine.
Sure.
Yeah.
And we turned this conversation like turns serious.
But we got to say like this video is an absolute joke because this woman took herself so seriously.
That's what I feel like all of our, Ky and Amelia the ones.
Like that was her biggest problem was she was just like taking her halo vibe beauty, which is like her supplement.
Just like the way she's speaking about this stuff is kind of like, don't you hear it?
Right.
Exactly. Like one of the quotes, and there were so many great quotes, but one, she was like, she was talking about how it's a big deal to like endorse like vitamins for your hair. She's like, it's not a palette. It's not something people buy multiples of. People are not going to buy a hair vitamin over here and one from over there because that would be too much for your system to handle. It's just like, are you kidding me? Other quotes, she's talking about how she supported him from the beginning. No one wanted to work with him because of his Ebola scandal.
Had to look into that.
There were so many red flags.
I was like, wait, what the hell are you talking about?
Yeah, there was a lot.
There was a lot.
You tried to trick a straight man into thinking he's gay yet again.
Like she said these like insane sentences, but like, and she's alone in a room, you guys,
searing at the camera for all 43 minutes.
And she's like a little teary.
Yeah.
And it's just like, it's so self-serious.
The tone is just like.
So then the backlash of this video was he lost three million YouTube subscribers.
And then like everyone came after him online
And he was already under attack
Like pretty recently at the MECG app
Right
We talked about how he was like
Influencer representation
Right
So the poor guy has been taking hit after hit
Although a lot of her accusations
Towards him
Like he obviously has some stuff to work through
Has to be a better human being
than it currently is
But people are like going nuts
They're going crazy
He's like fully cancelled
And she is like gaining all these followers
So then of course
I thought I was done with this hellhole
And then yesterday
She posted another
video being like why I did it because she I love the vague titles like that honestly she uploads
this video James Charles hadn't been heard from in a couple of days then he uploaded like a very like
grainy kind of low quality iPhone video that kind of like apology where you're like he's glasses on
no makeup a sweatshirt is like and someone put together like two minutes of James Charles just like
breathing because he does a lot of breathing in the video and sighing and she's like and he doesn't really
say anything he's just like I'm going to work on it like I'm trying to
traveling and I'm going to just like take time to figure out myself. So then she uploads this other
video, which I watched all 18 minutes of. And she's basically saying like this I kind of started
to feel like more sympathetic towards her. She's like, I don't want you guys hating on him.
Like this is like, I'm going to take time to like think about me and like I'm going to not
upload videos for a while. But also the heart of the issue is like she is 37 years old. This is like
like 19. Yeah. With all that money and all that influence. Like I don't know. It feels like maybe
don't upload, like almost an hour-long attack of a 19-year-old.
It's 37.
Except she did say, she's like, you guys have to understand.
I'm, like, freaking afraid of him.
He's 19, and I'm afraid of him.
This woman is insane.
Just watch, like, a couple minutes of it, and you'll just get the entire dress.
Don't watch the whole thing.
We did, and, like, we're going to advise you not to do that.
Yeah, this is a very big scandal on the YouTube community.
Right.
So, yeah.
Oh, no, yeah.
No, I mean, I know too much.
I could talk forever, but I don't want to.
about this. It'll be interesting to see
if he loses
all of his sponsorships and all
I know. I know. To be continued.
I would say we'll keep an eye on it but like I'd really rather not.
I don't have to be in my brain
and never think about it again.
All right.
Another packed category, you guys.
And sometimes not a lot of celebrities are doing questionable
things. This week, a lot of weird chits
going down. This is not worth the tea.
I love when we have a busy not worth tea.
I know. And we also, I had to take off
things and be like, maybe I'll save that.
like,
like not worth the not worth the tea.
Yeah.
First up,
Natalie Dormer played Marjorie Terrell in Game of Thrones,
killed off in season six,
tragically.
She decided to apparently celebrate the final season
of the huge show that she was on
by becoming a sponsor for Crocs.
Hell yeah.
Why not?
And it's really depressing.
She looks beautiful in this video.
She's talking in this incredible accent
that she has.
Her hair is like,
well, it's kind of got like the Blake Lively
blonde hair going on, and then it like pans out, and she's wearing these yellow crocs.
And really my take is just like, this is the biggest, like, hotness heat check where she's like,
literally, can I pull off anything? I'm going to become a sponsor for fax and see. And honestly,
like, yes, you can. Even the word crocs, I mean out of her mouth, she's like, crocs.
It's like, no. It seems so wrong, but I'm still like, you know, I. But like, do I want cracks now? Maybe.
Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Okay. Next thing, not worth the teeth.
Okay, so there was a Calvin Klein ad and it was like a video and it was Bella Hadid again.
One of T-Times favorite people.
Seriously.
And she made out with the influencer slash, is she a robot?
She's a CGI robot?
CGI robot, Lil Michaela.
Oh my God.
And the Calvin Klein ad.
So yeah, that's all you need to know.
Did you watch this video?
Yes, I did and I am scar for life.
I just, I never need to see it again.
We put our bodies at mine.
It's traumatic.
Traumatic week for you.
I don't need this.
I've lost this video either, and I feel great.
Yeah, I don't even want more emotions on it.
Okay, okay, next one.
This is Christian Jenner, obviously planting to the media that Courtney Kardashian and John Mayer were dating because he went on Andy Cohen's radio Andy on Monday on Monday.
And Andy Cohen was asking him to address the rumors that he was dating Courtney Kardashian.
And he says, I've got to be honest with you, like, little suspicious about the origin of the story.
And he goes, not sure the call's not coming from inside the house on this one.
Chris Jenner is just planting things everywhere.
Courtney's push line is like already plateauing.
She needs a little spire.
The only thing that I've like, no, is he says,
I think I'm in the post-celebrity relationship, probably in my life.
Oh.
Which means he's looking for one of T-Times's recommendations,
which is celebrity-adjacent, maybe art dealer,
maybe like, I don't know, film connoisseur, something like that.
Why not?
Yeah.
The next thing that has to do with Andy Cohen is that Paris Hilton went on watch what happens live on Tuesday,
and Andy Cohen asked her to say,
Three nice things about Lindsay Lohan.
This chick goes, she goes, she's beyond.
And then lame and embarrassing.
Which is not worth the tea because Paris Hilton, you're also beyond lame and embarrassing.
Like, it's like the Carol Black, you know what I mean?
Exactly.
And then, like, it was so mean.
And she is like a really mean girl in general.
She is a really mean girl.
She is like almost nothing nice to say about anybody.
And then to have her call Lindsay Lahan that, which agreed, like, we all have thoughts on Lenzuela
Oh, hand, sure.
Islind Lohan?
Like, I don't know what Beyond means, but like, I feel like it fits.
Yeah, but Paris Hilton.
She's just kicking her when she's down.
I know.
Be the bigger person.
Yeah.
Look in the mirror, Paris Hilton.
And you're also 38.
All right.
You're pushing 40.
No way.
Yes way.
Yeah.
Someone fact checked that.
Is Paris Hilton 38?
Yes.
Amelia, tell us about the next one.
Oh, okay.
So they also asked her in the same video, like, uh, did you ever say something mean about
Kim Car.
Is she 38?
Yes.
Paraselt, you heard it here.
Paracilden is 38.
But she, again, like, she called out Kim for having, like, a trash bag ass or something.
And she was like, oh, eh, it was very, like, you know, didn't want to address it.
You haven't done an amelian impression in a couple weeks.
I'm happy.
It's back now where no words are spoken.
You're just like, to get a point across.
But she also, she has a new song coming out.
Talk about Desperate.
It's called My Best Friend's Ass.
I wanted that.
And apparently like Kim might be in the video or something.
And it's just like, talk about embarrassing.
Yeah.
Beyond.
It's like, are you serious?
The only thing you can claim to relevancy is like your best friend.
Who I don't even think is your best friend.
Who she trashed for a long time even when she was like, no.
Yeah, not an A-lister.
Yikes.
It's embarrassing.
It's definitely not worth the teeth.
Last one.
Extremely.
And this was kind of just one that we wanted to talk about needed to fit in here.
Miley Cyrus is on the new season of Black Mirror.
Season 5, Liz Kelly, do you have thoughts, first of all?
Are you going to watch it just for Miley Cyrus?
For sure, that show is extremely scary, but I will watch it to watch Miley Cyrus.
Yeah, so in the trailer, her character is a famous performer, appears to a musician,
and she's getting ready to go on stage.
There are just like kind of a couple different shots of her, but she's got like a pink wig,
which, you know, we love Miley and a wig.
And she basically confirmed her involvement with Black Mirror in February during her cover story
on Vary Fair, but she revealed that she was working on the show and she found out that
her home had burned down during the California.
Wildfires, and she said that
in the scene she was filming at the time, my character
was having a panic attack, so needless to say,
the inspiration was there.
An Emmy
for Miley. She also
talks about how she bonded with Anna Switzky, the director,
and that she was kind of a mother figure
to her during this time.
Tish is so high all the time.
I think Miley does need an actual
mother figure.
Damn.
Yeah, so she
basically was like, I rarely walk away satisfied,
but I'm very proud of the dark and funny
thing that we did because I was in like a dark place while I was shooting the show. So she apparently
channeled the wildfires into Black Mirror along with her relationship with Leo Hemsworth.
We know how one of those things turned out. So hopefully the other. Let's get an Emmy for
Miley hashtag trending. Yeah. Let's do it. Okay. Final category is T-Times most unanswerable
question of the week. I'm starting off and my question is, are celebrity roasts a good idea?
And then internally, do they do more harm than good? I was thinking about this. I was thinking about
because it was the last episode of Busy Tonight on E last night on Thursday.
And then in celebration on the final episode,
she invited a couple of her girlfriends to come and roast her.
It was like roast or toast her.
And the people were Linda Cardalini.
Michelle Williams and A-list appearance.
Really turning out for busy on this show.
I love their friendship.
Agreed.
Jennifer Carpenter,
Krista Miller,
and then Whitney Cummins.
All these girls basically toasted her instead of roasted her.
But I was thinking about this idea because I think Busy Phillips
notoriously is like a very sensitive person.
And she's always crying on her Instagram story.
And just like, whenever she's on an airplane, whenever she has like a margarita, she just like, it's like very easy for her to cry.
Sure.
And I feel like she and I could not handle like a true celebrity roast.
And I don't actually even get where this came from.
And maybe it's me being naive and too sweet.
But like, honestly, why would you ever sign up for that?
I agree.
Why is Justin Bieber, Martha Stewart?
Like all these James Franco, all these really famous people have a really famous roast.
And it seems miserable.
Yeah, maybe they just hate themselves.
Wow.
Is that the...
I know, I don't know.
I don't know.
They just want to show that they're a good sport.
Yeah.
Would you guys be able to go through like an entire comedy central's, like hour long,
subbery roast of yourselves?
No.
No.
Yeah.
I just, I don't think so.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
I feel like we're just too sensitive.
Yeah.
And like one person would crack one joke and I'd be like,
do you think that about me?
100%.
I don't know how you stay a good sport.
We get one Twitter, what person on Twitter telling us we pronounce something wrong and we lose it?
I don't think we would handle a roast particularly well.
I'm going to be thinking about it for like the rest of my life.
That's the thing.
Speaking of people on Twitter.
Nice one.
Nice one.
That was a great segue.
Thank you so much.
So we were having like a week ago.
We were having this discussion with Logan Rhodes, who I work with.
We all work with.
You know social media guy at theringer.com.
Love him.
Great.
But he has an opinion that he thinks like Ryan Reynolds is like the best.
The best.
The best. The bees knees.
And I don't.
I just like don't only like him not much.
We're out on Ryan Reynolds on this podcast.
I'm not into a shtick, you know, he got married on a plantation.
Like not really.
Can't be sad enough, really.
Yeah, exactly.
And so pretty much he had this whiteboard that was like, Ryan Reynolds, yes or no.
Just like, yes or no.
And we had our coworkers voting.
Right.
Put up a tally for a couple days in the office.
Exactly. And it got pretty close.
It got pretty close.
What was the final tally?
I don't know.
I think no one.
I think T time actually pushed no over the.
I think.
I check my ass across this enormous lot that we work on from my arm.
I appreciate that.
To your side to vote no.
But it went back and forth a lot.
People were tweeting about it.
Yes.
And so like my boss, Pat Moldowny, he tweeted it out and you can find his tweet.
It's like two different sides.
And one was like, Logan tweeting, I want to be Ryan Reynolds.
And me being like, I hate Ryan Reynolds.
And so then I don't know how Ryan Reynolds found this.
But he did.
But he did.
And you know what he did?
he followed me on Twitter and I'm I don't know if that was like a act of passive aggressiveness.
Am I in a feud with Mr. Blake lively?
I have annoyed.
I'm scared.
So we followed you and then later he followed Pat.
Right.
He still follows both of you.
He does not follow that many people on Twitter.
He does not.
It's like what about 400?
It's like 400 people, 450 people.
Amelia and Pat are two of those people.
And like we've been trying to diagnose this and be like, why did he follow her?
What does it mean?
The first thing I did was like tea time, slath.
I was like, you guys, I am afraid.
Things blow up so often in, like, our tea time world on, like, Friday afternoon after I'm, like, all my way home, and I get, like, 400 notifications from Amelia being like, what does it mean?
What should I do?
I'm so scared.
How did you find me?
I think it was like Ryan Reynolds being like, I'm funny and people who don't think I'm funny.
That's funny to me, and so I'm going to follow her.
So she knows that I think it's funny that she doesn't think I'm funny.
And it's like, I see you, Amelia.
You know what I mean?
Yes, I'm watching you.
It's scary.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a detass.
So are you, let's say you have like a thought about Ryan Reynolds.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That, like, the world needs to know.
And a negative thought.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you tweet it now?
No.
That amount of people, he is going to see every single tweet.
Exactly.
If we were discussing this.
Yeah.
I don't think so.
He doesn't follow enough for that to get hidden.
I know.
I'm scared.
Maybe he was putting like a censorship on you, like a Ryan Reynolds censorship.
Oh, maybe that's the way to go.
You follow all of your haters and then they cannot speak out against you.
It's actually a very smart.
That's very smart.
I mean, follow your heart.
Don't let the man get you down.
So your question is Ryan Reynolds, yay or nay?
Yeah, that's what, tea timers.
Largely nay.
Yeah.
Yeah, let us know if you guys agree with us.
Yes.
All right, a little tea time, TMI for you.
Also talking about Twitter, there was a poll on Twitter last week.
This was also like right after we recorded.
So sorry if you've already had thoughts about this.
We're going to talk about it again.
You're darn right we are.
There was a poll on Twitter by Connor Arpwell who said,
do you wash your legs when you take a shower?
Got 852,782 votes.
80% said yes.
20% said no.
This started like a four-day shower discourse.
Yes.
Where people would not shut the fuck up
about whether they wash their legs in the shower,
whether you're supposed to wash your legs in the shower.
Then it turned into like, do you wash your hair?
How often do you shower?
And I was like, I don't need to be these things about all of you people.
And also just real quick, I love You're the Worst,
which is a show on FXX.
And there's a whole scene where it's just about leg washing
and how you don't need to wash your legs because they get clean
and somebody's horrified by that.
So I was like, this is a rip off if you're the worst.
Oh.
But tea time.
Are you supposed to wash your legs in the shower?
Let's go around.
Amelia, you go first.
See, I do because I shave my legs.
Right.
That's a whole different thing, too.
But let's say you don't shave your legs that day.
And I'm not saying yes or no that I do.
But I'm just saying, like, yes or no.
Hypothetically, would you wash your legs still?
I feel guilty without washing my legs.
I feel guilty.
Yeah.
I just feel like it should just, you know what?
It's all part of the brush.
You're going up and down just with some, like, every time.
Well, I just, like, I have some, like, either soap or body wash, and I just go up and down my legs.
Takes two seconds.
Liz.
I feel like you're anti-leg washing.
I am feeling a little alone.
Well, it's just, it's like I'm very tall.
I got long legs.
It's like, it's like, it's like, double over every time.
I shower every day.
Yeah.
So my answer is that when you work out, yes, you shave your, I mean, you wash your legs, but like, not every time does it get to that point.
Interesting.
Only tell people shower like, Kate, please back me up.
So, Liz and I actually already talked about this.
But I personally don't feel clean in the shower unless I've exfoliated my entire entire outer layer of skin.
That's like some serial killer shit right there.
I'm a huge fan of exfoliating.
I was going to say this earlier.
It's like American Psycho.
We were talking about Kylie's walnut scrub.
I definitely don't use a walnut scrub with my face.
But I have a scrub that I use every time I shower and a lufa.
And so I definitely watch my legs because I need to just remove the entire outer layer of skin.
It should be said that like Kate wakes up like with the sun at four in the morning.
I did it spend the next several hours, like, doing who knows what before she shows up to work.
Excuse me, this isn't about my morning hours.
So Kate has the time to loop for her entire body.
I can't, I roll out of bed 15 minutes before I have to sit at my desk and then not every time.
Also, to be fair, I'm sitting here extremely unshowered and, like, probably extremely contagious with the cold.
So I'm, like, talking about being clean and I'm hearing like a baseball cap and a sweatshirt.
Yeah.
So it's fine.
But most of the time, yes.
Wash your legs.
Kaya?
Yeah, you got to weigh in.
Yeah, I wash my legs every time.
What the hell?
Yeah, you're already in there.
What else do you do?
It's two seconds.
All right, let's wrap this up.
All right.
Let's have to go home and wash her legs.
Tell me now.
This has been just another journey on tea time.
Thank you.
Like, really thank you for listening.
If you made it through, just congrats.
Honestly, congrats.
This has been tea time.
Thank you, Kaya.
Our producer, I'm Les Kelly.
I'm Kate Al-Wall.
I'm Amelia Wademeyer.
