The Prestige TV Podcast - ‘Atlanta’ Season 4, Episode 6 Recap

Episode Date: October 14, 2022

Charles and Van dive into the ‘Crank Dat’ era of hip-hop, the choke hold that sneakers have on society, and much more as they break down the sixth episode of the final season of ‘Atlanta.’Hosts: Charles Holmes and Van Lathan Associate Producer: Jonathan Kermah Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hi, I'm Issa Kwona and I'm Ryan Hunt and we co-host Stadio, a football podcast on the Ring of Podcast Network. If you like soccer or football, make sure you search for Stadio, a football podcast on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to the Prestige TV podcast where you will never see us cranked at Jimmy Neutron. I'm Charles Holmes of The Ringer Music Show. He's Van Laith in a higher learning. Together we're known as the Midnight Boys and we're here to discuss the final season of Atlanta. And on today's episode, we're breaking down cranked at killer, directed by hero Marai and written by Stephen Glover. Van, how are you doing today? My life's like a movie.

Oozoozy Joozy. It's great to hear from you, man. I've been seeing on the TL that you've been teaching people about apartheid and hopefully Dodge and Kanye. Shout out to everybody that comes on to higher learning. We appreciate all the guests that we get on higher learning. Shout out to my friends who want to come on higher learning and say things. If you want to come on there, you can say whatever you want, but the audience is going to do what they do. So, hey, the Reddit, fuck around and find out.

Fuck around and find out. Fuck around and find out. We're not here to talk about apartheid. We're here to talk about serial killers, stalking people who were doing Crank That videos on YouTube back in the day. Before we get into the episode, brief rundown of what happens. A serial killer is murdering people who posted cranked that videos on YouTube back when the Soldier Boy song is popular. Alfred reveals to Ernda Darius, that is early drug dealing days.

He too posted a crankedat video out of boredom. Throughout the episode, Alfred gets more and more paranoid, calls Soldier Boy for advice, and eventually ends up in a shootout at the mall and is a rush to avoid the serial killer. Meanwhile, Ernda Darius are in the hunt for limited Nike miracle sneakers. They track down a dude that's a shoot out. sells limited sneakers out of his van called Shoe Man, who has a pair, but Shoe Man says that Ernd and Darius can have

the shoes if they agree to kiss, which splits the two friends. Then the two plots converge when one of the shooters kills Shoeman after Ernd Darius Kiss, a struggle rapper from earlier in the episode called some guy named Doug rescues Alfred from the mall and immediately cashes in the favor by asking Paperboy to collaborate

on a track by episodes end. The trio read a TMZ post that the Crank That Killer has been captured, and they're left to listen to Paperboy's terrible new collaboration with some guy named Doug. First impressions of the episode you just watched Van. hilarious.

So funny. There's, I mean, look, Atlanta, Atlanta does have the tendency to be preaching in parts, and there is a part of this that's a little preachy. I've noticed that it gets a little preachy inside of the van when they're trying to make this decision about whether or not they're going to hoard themselves out for the shoes. You get a little preachy there.

But some minor, minor bump and hilarity. This is a throwback to some of the Atlanta episodes from earlier on. It seemed like a season one episode. It did. Like a classic, like hijinks and Sue episode. Yeah, like a straight through line from crazy occurrence, funny shit happening, but also that Biden criticism and introspection that makes the show so great. Oh, I couldn't agree more.

This is, I think, one of the pairings early on in Atlanta's run that I was just like, they're magical when they're on screen together is Donald Glover and Lakey Stanfield. Whatever Erne and Darius are together, like one of my favorite episodes is when Darius tells Earn that he could like get some extra money if you like invest in these puppies. And I always love when those two are on screen together. And this was another classic example of that. And the paper boy story was just as funny. But before we really dive deep into the episode,

the listeners need to know something very important, Dan. Have you ever, did you ever learn the crank that dance? I was too old. How old were you? I was... 2007. I was 27.

So, yeah, it's too old. God damn, man. Yeah. You missed out on all that shit. You were on the... Whose side were you on in the Soldier Boy Ice Tea beef? Ice tea? I don't even remember that.

Oh my. Like, Soldier Boy comes out, 2007. I didn't really understand the song. I understand what a big deal it was, and I was happy for him. But it wasn't like a thing for me. It was something that the kids would do. I wish this was, this was Midnight Boy, so we could play The Van Is Old. I don't know what you guys want.

I don't know what you guys want from. God. There's stuff dropping right now that you're not interested. Look, I was, I mean, I was proud of Soldier Boy. I was proud that he was able to do what he was able to do. Good for him. But nah, it wasn't really like, it wasn't a thing. What about you? Did you ever crank that before? Come on, man. Wait, Kerm, come in. Of course I did. What question is that. I was a child. I loved it. Like, everybody was doing it. Kerm. Did you ever crank that soldier boy? Yeah, badly at like middle school dances, but yeah. Yeah, come on. I never cranked that.

I didn't, I don't think I understood the, I know that it was a dance because I saw, they were doing it on like Kanye West and then we're doing it on the, on the MTV Video Music Wars. People were doing it. People were cranking that. But it wasn't a thing for dudes that were playing, pick up basketball and trying to get their careers together out in Los Angeles. Like we, it wasn't to crank that era.

Stop trying to make the fact that your wash seem cooler than it is, man. I don't know what to tell you. I mean, look, I'm going to be honest with you. Being washed is pretty cool. When? I'm not even going to do that to you, Charles. No. I knew you were about to start.

I knew. No, I'm not even going to do that. But no, but no, I understand what it meant to hip hop and everybody was doing it, you know. Everybody was cranking that soldier boy. Everybody was ewing, you know, everybody was doing the dance. There were dances in my day. In my day, we had dances. Here's a thing.

Like honestly, I understand how you feel because like the kids in New York are now getting sturdy. And I was like, I just see them doing the dance. I'm like, my knees can't do that shit anymore. Like I tried once and I'm like, nah, man, I got to cut that shit out. You tried to get sturdy. Why did you try to get sturdy? That's not for you. You shouldn't be trying to get sturdy.

I want to see if I still had it. I don't. Like, my joints still don't have it. But back to this episode, I love this episode because it felt like a pallet cleanser. To your point, I think we've been in a long stretch of Atlanta episode. that have been very, like, they're dealing with heavy subjects, they're dealing with heavy themes.

There's a lot to unpack. And this one was just like, nah, like, it is what it is. It's just going to be a riot throughout the entire episode. And, like, when it really clicked from me, honestly, was when Alberto, I believe his name is, the struggle rapper who's baby mama was basically telling, like, hey, yo, I think it might be time for you to, like,

hang it up. The minute he's just like, yo, I told you the story about Big Sean, I was fucking dying. I'm like, not Big Sean Alberto. God damn, Fijo family. Because the whole time I was wondering, I was like, is he good at rapping? Like, are we going to find out later in this episode?

He's good at rapping. And sadly, my man needs to get a job. Like, my man needs to, like, get a trade. Because the rap that he wraps for Silver Boy is so. Yeah. Look, his life is like a movie. Oozzy, jacuzzi. And he had no sense of timing. I knew that that was going to end up going bad for him. I thought that soldier boy, I thought that, excuse me, paper boy might think that he was the crank that killer and might end up assaulting him or shooting him or something. I didn't know what was going to happen. But I knew that that was going to end up bad for him. It kind of ended up anticlimatic for him. at the end because he just, he didn't even get half of his moment. He literally just got thrown through.

He got one bar off, but I have to tell you, that is quite literally one of the funniest things I've ever seen on Atlanta, Paperboy shoving him through the glass. It is the best punchline. Because the whole time I was just like, what is, to your point,

I was just like, ah, man, his Paperboy going to think he's to crank that killer. It's something bad's going to happen. And for it, just to be one long gag that ends in that physical, like, punchline is, just top tier comedy, right? One thing I want to ask you, though, is

is it weird for Paperboy to be afraid for his life, considering when we meet him in the pilot, he shoots a man and he goes to jail in the second episode, or if we're being generous, do you think that, like, Paperboy is at the point

where he's not in the streets anymore? He actually has something to lose. This is the first time we see his new apartment. And he's just, not like he's washed a little bit. Like he's like he's going to be afraid of a serial killer in a way I don't know if season one paperboy would have been. What I was trying to do is understand

what the significance of the crank that killer is in the story. Is it the death of a rap career, which is something that we've touched on that Atlanta has dealt with? Is it the death of a specific generation of rappers? Or is it some kind of commentary on the fact, that people think that every rapper that gets signed to empire gets murdered. Or, you know what I mean? I'm, like, what, I was trying to figure out what exactly the significance of the crank that

killer actually was. And maybe it might be that those guys from 07, 08, 09, those guys, man, they're not as around as they used to be. Like, that group of guys, I know Paperboy isn't quite one of them because he caught on kind of late. he would be more like a two chains, right? Because he caught on a little bit later after he put in a little work. But those guys are gone.

And maybe that's, maybe this is another episode where Paperboy is literally trying to dodge the end of his rap career. And what does he end up doing at the end of it? Once again, getting with a newer whacker rapper. And he kind of gets forced into it. So it's very interesting, you know, to do it with the way you look at it. What about you? I mean, I took the episode in two ways. The first is like I'm like, I don't want to put on my intellectual hat for this because I do think that in the writing of this, I was just like, no, they just had a really funny joke.

They secured the soldier boy cabio. And part of me is like, everything is there. It is the joke. I don't know if there's anything deeper. But to your point, if I was going to be like, hmm, what is like the underlying thematic element of this episode? I do think that there is a sense that like, Earn and Darius don't even know. that Paperboy at one point in his career posted a cranked-ed-ed-ed-ed video.

And I've been reading this interesting book by Joe Coscarelli at the New York Times that's coming out called Rap Capital about Atlanta. And I had forgotten that, like, Gucci-Mane got on at first by remixing white tea. You know what I mean? Like, I didn't, like, same thing with, like, a Shottie Lowe.

Like, Shawty Lowe is dead now, but, like, you forget about that layer of Atlanta rap, the Snap generation, the dance generation, the generation of Soldier Boy. Huge. And it's... Mr. Collie Park. The producer.

Like they bubble smart sparks Miss New Booty. Miss New Booty. Wait, can I just say something really quick? This is a slight tangent. Have you watched the Miss New Booty video recently? No, nigger. Like, like, no, of course not. I had to do, we were doing something on the music show about white rappers.

I had to go watch it back. If you watch that video, 2022, it is wild how far booty technology has gone. Because everybody in the Miss New Booty music video just has a regular butt by like 2022 standards. It's wild. Yeah. I think that was the thing, just the overall evolution of what we consider to be a big ass, you know?

Like when we, when Sir Mixelot video came out back in the day, we was like, oh, shit, look at these girls, you know? And then even four or five years later, because I'm from Louisiana where the ass is like ass, you know? We'd be like, oh, I'm just cares, you know. Even years later, it'd be like, oh, that's not enough ass. And now it's obviously, obviously everybody walking around looking like an aunt, BBL's everywhere. But yeah, it's not just the technology, but like the dances have just gone through the roof as far as what they can do. Shout out to everyone. Honestly, I'm surprised, Van, when you first, when you first saw this modern age twerking where you just like, damn, the broads weren't doing it like that in my day.

I mean, but what you have to understand is I'm from Louisiana. Like, we invented all of that stuff. I've been seeing that for a long, long time. I mean, that stuff is just getting to you guys. Wait, so you were there when they created it in 1917? All right. I'm sorry. That's the last old joke.

Like what I'm telling you is like everything that comes from the South is like we originate stuff. And then you guys up there, you guys just like, yeah, you guys just latch on to it. Like we started drinking Lane way back in the day. Next thing you know, y'all got to drink Lane. Y'all got to do out. All of this stuff is actually you who's, you. Oh, mommy, you're just twerking.

It's twerking. You didn't know what twerking was until Miley Cyrus started to do it. Ying Yang Twins had whistle while you twirking back when I was still fucking at Louisiana Tech, man. We bit all of that stuff is not new to me. It's new to y'all. Why are you throwing me in this? Because you're trying to be slick. Like, old weird-ass jersey nigger.

Like, I'm telling you straight up all of that stuff. Jersey has produced a lot of fine black men and women. Jersey is an amazing place, but y'all know nothing about no twerking. That is true. Anyway, back to the episode. Yeah, to your point, I do think in the funniest way possible, a lot of this episode

is interrogating, just aging as a rapper and Paperboy being at that point where it's like, it's so funny seeing the earlier episode where Paperboy is trying to search for that white avatar to extend his money-making runway. And then in this, seeing the other side of that, where it's not lost on me that everybody who wants to work with Paperboy is a person of color now.

And it's almost like Paperboy has to dodge the mid. Everywhere he goes, there's a whack wrapper around who is trying to get something from him. Even as you realize, I'm like, is a paperboy feature going to do much for you in 2022 was my question? I mean, yeah. He still seems to be somebody who can, he still seems to be someone who can put a rapper's career like in a new place.

You know, he seems, look, think about it. Think about someone right now. Like right now, I don't want to throw out any. names. I don't want to make anybody seem. Like, all of those guys, they can still put you on. I'll put it to you this way. Like, is it is a Paperboy feature like a GZ feature in 2022 or is it like, I don't know, like a Rick Ross feature? I think a GZy feature and a Rick Ross feature are the same thing in 2022.

But they are definitely not. A Rick Ross feature will do way more for you, I feel like. Okay. Well, I mean, at, it, at, this point, I think I don't know how much, I don't know how much, I don't know how much is left in Ross's, I mean, Ross had already done everything he can done to do that like five, six number one albums. But I think, I don't know if it, I don't know if either feature. I think both, I think if GZ wanted to put you in the game right now, Gizi could put you in the game.

I think if Ross wanted to put you in the game, Ross could put you in the game. To your point, is Ross probably a hotter, has he been hotter longer? Is he probably a hotter rapper than Gizi? Yeah, I'll acquies it. The Ross feature probably means more. But I think if you rap for Gizi and Gizi like you, Gizi can give you a rap career. And most of those guys from that era, Tip can give you a rap career. Gizi can give you a rap career.

Gucci could certainly give you a rap career. All of those guys could give you a rap career. You know what I mean? Yo Gadi, yeah. Yeah, like those guys, all of those guys. I mean, yo Gadi, he could do more than that. He can make you a superstar, right? Because he's got.

I mean, he can sign you to his label. Yeah, his label is a big deal. But any of those guys, like at this point, if you're rapping for them and they fucking with you, yeah, they can get you, they can get you sign. I mean, they all got labels. They all got imprints, but they can give you a better career than handing out hors durs or samples in front of bourbon chicken. Bourbon chicken in front of whatever you. That was a good one-liner. Like, nigg, we all know that tastes like.

Yeah. You know? So, also, I want to ask you this because you were talking about the preacher part. And when I was watching this, I thought Shoe Man was funny. But did that B plot feel not only preachy, but a little bit aged, where I'm just like, do they really have a like buying sneakers from like a shadowy figure in a parking lot plot line in 2022? Like part of me, like, this is someone who like, that's how I got on. I grew up in like the sneaker game throughout college, like funding a bunch of shit. So I was just like, this seems like four or five years too late.

Well, so it made for good comedy because the situation is totally ridiculous. It also made for something that will be, you know, sort of subversive to some of the Atlanta audience, which is a male-male kiss on the show, which is sure to challenge that deep corner of the people who are, who can't believe. Really? But in 2022, like that's something like that. Oh, shut up. Charles.

Wait, really? You're so out of course. We still, why do y'all act like, why do y'all, don't even use the term in 2022. Do you realize that you can turn on Malcolm X right now?

I want everybody, I challenge everyone to do this. I challenge everyone to do this. Turn on Malcolm X from 1962 right now. And listen to what

Malcolm X is talking about. He's going to be talking about. police brutality, economic advancement, and political power for black people. It's 50, 60 years later. Guess what? We're talking about the same shit. I feel like you're missing my point. I more so meant for Atlanta, a show that we, like, knows very subversive,

is very good at, like, pushing buttons. I was just like, this is a plot line of, like, Erd and Darius having to kiss for sneakers that would have like the impact of it, the joke of it, the punchline of it would have hit way more in season one than it does in the last season. Interesting. At least that's how I feel.

I feel you, no problem. I disagree just from the standpoint that all I see is people putting up on their social media disappointment of not getting tennis shoes, of not getting sneakers. Like I see people putting up, missed them, or got them.

Like on their thing up and up and down the sneakers app. I see it all the time. It seems like people are so frustrated with shoes. And so when I saw them going to these exorbitant links, look, I got a fear of God, a pair of fear of gods in there.

And shout out to Natalie Manually. And shout out to Brian Randallie. Natalie's brother is Jerry Lorenzo. The fear of God guy. Natalie's brother is Jerry Lorenzo. So I did now with Natalie, Natalie's fantastic show that used to be on the Hill Song Network. Natalie's doing fantastic things now. I think she's doing that anymore.

But I did the show and Natalie was so super sweet that she gave me a pair of Fear of Gods, right? Yellow Fear of Gods, they are crazy. Like they're amazing shoes, right? Why have I never seen you wear them? Because I'm going to be honest, man. Your shoe game is the weakest thing I've ever seen. Okay, just so you know, that's like the fifth time you've dissed me. No, it's not.

It's getting old. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, uh, but no. So the fear of gods are in there, right? And you should have seen how people acted when they saw me in the shoes. Like it's like, oh my God. It's like two, three years ago. It's like, oh, like, oh, my God. How do you get those?

Blah, blah, blah, blah. Bro, you got to tell me, bro. Hey, bro. You got to plug me in, bro. Tell me how you got those, bro. You can't even get them. Bro, you got to tell me how you got them, bro. You got to tell me how you got them, bro.

You got to tell me how you got them. You got them. Get off of me. No. A friend of mine hooked me up. That's how I got them. Everything I get, everything I wear, someone gave it to me. That's the entire thing.

So I think it still kind of rings true that people are crazy over sneakers. But I think that the sneaker hunt is not the point of that. the point of that is to ask if we care too much about sneakers because the diatri which is such a like that conversation I'm like bro we can't be having this conversation anymore we get it like consumerism is bad black people like sneakers like I don't know what to tell you man like we can't we can't keep interrogating the same the same fucking argument yeah but but don't wants to Donald wants to talk about whether or not we go through exorbitant lengths and actually lower our own worth to get these things if standing outside in line to get inside Supreme on Fairfax for like

five hours if that's really useful. You know, he wants to talk about that. And it's interesting that the way he chose to do that was to make those guys kiss. You know, I mean, I can tell there are going to be some people. I think I get it because they explained it that it really wasn't about the fact that it was a guy on guy kiss. But I think there are going to be some people who are going to say that that scene was a little too

heteronormative for them. I mean, yes. I don't necessarily agree, but I think that some people are going to feel that way. I think some people are going to be pissed. I do think that, but there is like some level of comedy of the shoe man. Turning up Casey and Jojo. That shit.

That's one of the funniest things I've seen on Atlanta, bro. That shit is hysterical. Like, bro, because I was like, he had it ready. And I just wasn't, like, I was just like, what songs is it about to be? When that shit started playing, I'm like, bro, like this show is it. Let's actually talk about it. What do you think are the funniest parts of this episode? I think easily one of the biggest ones is Soldier Boy thinking that the state farm,

the State Farm catchphrase is like a good nigger, safe farm. Yeah, I think that's funny. Seeing Soldier Boy seeing Soldier Boy with the

do the crank that from back in the day. That is hilarious. I think Soldier Boy, the Crank That Dance, I think the shootout is hilarious.

The shootouts hilarious just because the guy's shooting at him. We think that's the crank that killer. It's not. It turns out to not be the crank that killer. It's just somebody from high school who had beef with Paperboy, I guess. Right, who did like Paperboy. It tries to kill him. And it turns into a full-on shootout because everybody in Atlanta has a gun, right?

When the white mom with the baby pulls out. In perfect form, dog. She's just standing there dot and pop. But yeah, I think like all, I laughed throughout the end. entire episode. I laughed when he out of nowhere poured Hennessy on the recording board so that he didn't have to work with some guy named Doug

you know. Who do we think some guy named Doug is as a rapper? Like who is his like modern equivalent? I have no clue. Who do you think he is? It's rough because he reminded me immediately of like a Kyle.

Do you remember like that light skin rapper Kyle? I do remember Kyle. He reminded me somewhat of that. I don't have a modern rapper who even sounded like him because they played the song over the credits. And I'm just like, bro, who would this rapper even fucking be? But yo, another thing I want to ask you, though, we talked about, have we covered all of the bases for this episode, you think? Oh, the last one we didn't cover is the cranked that killer. Just being an old, like, heavier set black dude.

Yeah. It's an old, heavyset black dude, like the same kind of guy who would make you, would make two friends kiss for sneakers. Like, that's the kind of guy that the crank that killer is. You know what I mean? Oh, I will say when the shoe guy get shot, that is the thing that I blanted does so well, is it'll be like laugh out loud, funny, hijinks. And then something just so dark and chaotic will happen that I'm just like,

what the fuck? Like, what am I watching? I was totally back on board at that part. But, like, I know I already asked you this. I'm so surprised Paperboy was running away from these people. Why? I don't know. I just like, I'm like, I guess maybe it is because he's just getting older,

but I still remember Paperboy as being like that dude earlier, earlier in the show's run, who just had a gun on him at all times, didn't give a fuck, was just like, bro, if somebody steps to me, like, I'll handle it. Edit this. Hey,

you're saying a lot of shit that don't make no sense in this episode. The fuck are you talking about? Somebody's shooting at him. Like, he's not going to run. Kerm.

No, I know he's going to run. But he's like, he's scared of somebody being in his house. I'll say y'all both, you both got points. My question was like,

why doesn't he got it on him? Why is he lacking? That's what I'm saying. As I will say that, why he lacking? Hey, y'all, y'all two niggas sound like two of, the dumbest.

Y'all sound like y'all sound like two of the dumbest niggas that have never been in a sticky situation before in your entire life. Two of like what we're talking about? Everybody runs. Everybody runs when they hear gunfire.

But what happened between season one is season four where like, yo, he was always carrying in that thing on him. He wasn't like, he was like, he was like. Bruh, I guarantee you some of the hardest dudes. bruh, have been in a situation where the gunfire

pops off and they run. He's already paranoid that a killer is probably after him over the video, right? Why isn't he at least carrying something on him? That's what I'm saying. You know what? You know what? Dues do? They busts and they run at the same time. They run and they be like

boom, boom, boom, boom as they run it. They're getting the fuck out of it. What do y'all expect? He goes, what is he? Cobra? He's a Terminator? You know what a stand? All I'm saying is no gun at all is on him. That just doesn't make sense to me.

Yeah, that's like, he leaves his house, okay? The Craigdack killer is in his house. I'm like, dog, this is your turf. At least like bring something with you to protect yourself. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Look, bro, I'll be honest with you. Like for me personally, when I hear, like, I got guns in here.

When I hear the poppity pop, pop, pop, pop, I'm out. I'm out. When I hear it, Charles Stallone and Jonathan Kermas Schwarzenegger, you guys can stand there and stand there. Whoa. The two of you guys. Hey, I'm not paper boy, bro. Yeah, I'm not paper boy.

I don't have it on me. I'm saying he's supposed to have it on him. That's all I'm saying. See, this is a problem for black man. A black man can't even go get oppressive. he got to be toting the armory at all times. So, right man, can't even go get a pretzel. He can't even go get a pressel dress like Chris F.

Did you feel seen during that scene? You're just like, damn, like you look it back on your life being like, I can't even go get a pretzel without people coming up to me. Be like, yo, it's Van. Oscar Ward winning. But that's not what they do to me, though. They come up to me and ask me for jobs. So that's the point.

I'm like, hey, Van, bro. Put me on. Put me on. Just like, just like, my life is oozy jacuzzi. That's my life. My life is, yo, bam, bro, as soon as you see him. Hey, man, let me tell you what I really thought about in game. Nah, dog.

Nah, man. I'm just out with my girl, bro. We try to see Pattinton too. Like, if you send me the resume, I'll send it to Bill and them. Don't get me wrong. I will. If you send me the resume, I'll send it to Billing them. But can I watch Pattinson, too, dog?

It's like, come on, man. I want to see the cuddly bear. But no, the episode was good. Did you feel, do you feel like this season of Atlanta is moving towards anything, being that this is the final season? Did you expect there to be some sort of, I guess, grounding point that the, that the seasons was moving towards? A wedding.

Somebody getting sick. something of that nature. We've flirted with very serious. Okay. Atlanta was, Atlanta has never been that show in my, of course. Now you're right. Atlanta has never been like a madman where it's like there's a story that's coursing throughout the season that you're just like, or a Breaking Bad where this season,

most of the episodes aren't that connected. There's, and that's why I'm like, it really wouldn't feel like Atlanta if like at the, at the end they're like, paper, boy had cancer. Oh, you know what I mean? Like, I guess it does have some level of, like, there is in the air of at least earn, potentially moving to L.A.,

Paperboy trying to find new, like, revenue streams because he's not as popping as he once was. But I'll ask you this. Do you want the Atlanta, the version of Atlanta? That's like, and here's the large narrative arc that was happening this entire time. No, I don't want any. anything like that.

As a matter of fact, I think it's better that it's this way. I've been watching a little show called Yellowstone, Charles. I had to hop off that show. Of course you did. The white people's going too crazy.

My girlfriend was out. She's just like, I can't, they're killing animals. I can't do this anymore. I love Yellowstone. Yellowstone is great. Don't get me wrong. I love fucking Yellowstone. It's just intense, my man. Yeah, it's a very intense show.

It's been giving me nightmares. So in that show, everything leads to something else. It's good to watch a show that's as abstract as Atlanta, but as as familiar as the show is right now. It's interesting that you think some guy named Doug is Kyle. Maybe he is Kyle, but I remember people liking Kyle for a second. Am I wrong? It's not that I don't think they base him off Kyle.

It's just that I have no modern comparison to who, like, like he's not he's not logic because like logic like whatever you will say about him can like strap wraps together you know what I'm saying so I'm just like who's like a rapper that we're all like this rapper is like mid but they also have that like light skin

chance the rapper thing going on but they're just super nice and we want to see them win for some reason like who is that rapper like Playboy Cardi like Playboy Cardi like Playboy Cardi when he wants to he could get down like he's not a Cardi. He's not cool like that. I don't know who this rapper is. That's just whack, but we like him. And we want to see him win. I'll tell you who that, who's like that with me, Safari.

Nah, bro. What? I like Safari, bro. I like Safari, bro. I like Safari. What? Brow, I like Safari as a person. I like Safari. I mean Safari, not like friends or nothing. I like Safari as a person. I think Safari is cool. I think he's a good guy. He can't rap.

Not to me. He can't rap. But when I see Safari catch a win, I'm like, man, good for Safari, bro. He deserves it. I'm disgusted right now. I'm fucking disgusting. I'm serious, bro.

I'm like, good for Safari, man. Safari is vulnerable. He don't try to play the hard role. He's like a real person to me That's made some mistakes. That's cool. That takes the good with the bad. It seems like a good dude.

And so, you know, you can't rap, but I like Safari. I like to see Safari do good. Moving on, because that was the most depressing admission that you've ever. I don't know what to tell you. I don't know what to tell you. Sometimes I like people just for who they are. Is that what our friendship is built on? No, I mean, you're really great at what you do, which some people are.

aren't. Like, you're really good at what you do. But, like, some people are not good at what they do, but I like them. I feel like Safari guy, like his hidden talent is being probably behind the scenes, ghost writers. Oh, he's a good, he's a writer and all of that stuff. We know that he contributed greatly to one of the greatest careers and all of hip hop history. I'm saying he hasn't, I'm saying as a rapper, people would say, hey, I like Safari's rap as a personality and like a dude, I think Safari's dope, man. I see that. I like to see Safari do well. So we only have four more episodes of Atlanta left. Damn.

That's a lot. Gut check feelings on this season. Gut check feelings. Oh, that's one of the greats. I'm loving this season. Yeah, it's one of the greats. It's better than even last season. Yes.

Before we go, I want to talk, I want to interrogate the same. I just want to ask you a couple more things about the scene inside of the sneaker. The sneaker fan. Okay. I'm ready. Do you think this scene was any type of look into the specific characters of Earn and Darius? Darius had no, Darius is such a free spirit. Hey, let's just kiss and get the sneakers.

Doesn't think it has to do any with his worth at all. It doesn't care about the kiss itself. Earn, for some reason, has all of these reservations, but still does it. What do you think that's saying? Well, I do think that's something that is going on. And that is you have to think about, like, how people treated Earn for pretty much the first two seasons of this show. When Earn shows back up on Paperboy's doorstep, him and Darius are giving him a fucking hard time. They're emasculating him.

They're, like, dunking on him at every turn. The entire city of Atlanta is, like, designed. Like, think about that episode when him and Van go out to eat. and he can't afford the meal and everybody around him is starting to realize he can't afford the meal. I do think that that is a classic earned moment

where of course Darius, who is like he's close with Paperboy. Nobody's ever trying to try Darius. He's a free spirit. Of course it's going to be Earn, who's going to be the one who gets a little toxic masculinity about it. It'd be like, bro, no, I don't know.

Because he's just gotten the credit or at least the respect that he's been waiting. this entire series for. I see. I see, I see, I see, I see, I see, I see. I will say it was very funny when Steve Van told him to kiss for eight minutes.

I'm like, bruh, eight minutes is like, bro, eight minutes. He's like, he's like, how long, you guys? He's like, eight minutes. He's like, what's your offer? Let's haggle. I'm like, gosh, Schueman was great. Like, here's the thing.

I do want to tell the audience, like, yes, to your point, Van, Van, I think the joke is probably a little heteronormative probably belongs in like 2015. Can we please not, can we please not argue about it though? Like, I really don't know. No, no, no, no.

I'm not going to argue about it. I just know that there will be discussion about it. No, no, not us. Like the wider world, I'm like, bro, like we cannot argue about this scene. It's going to get so annoying so fast. Nah, they'll argue about it. They'll definitely argue about it.

They'll argue about it on higher learning where they like to argue about everything. Are you back in their good graces after the student loans? No. The higher learning audience hates me.

Wait, why? Oh, bro. Oh, my God, bro. Like, they literally, it's so funny. They love Rachel, they hate me. That's the, but I like being, I like it.

Oh, so wait, you know what it's like to be Coke Baby Chuck. I talk. I am for sure the Coke Baby Chuck of Higher London. that's why I tell you, fuck it. I'm for sure the cold baby Chuck of higher learning.

Like for sure. So they'll probably argue over there there'll be a whole thing, a whole thread about it on the higher learning Reddit. But yeah, so whatever. But a funny episode,

hilarious episode. For anyone that said Atlanta, the season before this, lost the funny and it didn't really have the funnies anymore. I feel like this season has doubled down. We've seen three or four of the funniest Atlanta episodes

that we've seen since the first season debut in this, and this was another one. Great. Honestly, there might be nothing funnier this year. My life is a movie. Uzi Chikoozee. My life is a movie, Uzi Chikuzi. Like, that?

And then just getting, just thrown into the thing. That was hilarious. I'm sorry, bro. I feel bad for him. But that was hilarious. I don't feel bad for it. If you think you go get signed like Big

Sean, it's 2022. You like, come up, bro. But y'all, that has been our episode of the Prestige TV podcast. Thank you, as always, to Van Laithen. I'm Charles Holmes. And thank you to Jonathan Kerma, who does an amazing job producing us every week. We will see y'all next week. Head to the coast and Abercrombie's latest summer drop.

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