The Prestige TV Podcast - Breaking Down the Ending of 'Behind Her Eyes'

Episode Date: March 3, 2021

Juliet Litman and Chris Ryan break down the wild ending of 'Behind Her Eyes,' the erotic thriller series on Netflix. Hosts: Juliet Litman and Chris Ryan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Have a good day. Love you. Love you too. I'm Louise. Your secretary. It's nice to meet you. I'll just move to the area. David's kind and generous.

I work for your husband. You work with David. Small world. Adele seems perfect. They're both happier with me than they are with each other. You shy. What about your wife? Is it happening again, David?

again, David. What are you talking about? You know what I meet. The Concierge, the ringer's guide to the vast streaming landscape. We're here to help you navigate all of the TV offerings that exist. And today we are discussing behind her eyes on Netflix. I'm Juliet Litman. I am the host of Bachelor Party.

I'm joined by Chris Ryan, my former office roommate, the co-host of the Watch. And he also watched behind her eyes. Chris, how are you? But what if I'm Kaya and you're me and Kaya's you? Oh my God. So we are doing an exit survey. Many spoilers are about to come up. If you haven't watched behind your eyes, I just want to urge you to because I had a lot of fun.

Chris, did you have fun watching this show? I had fun in like the sense of like an amusement park ride. Like I felt like the walk up to the ride took a little while. You know what I mean? A long line to get to the ride. Then once the ride started, it was really exciting. A little bit of a long buildup to get up to like what we're actually doing here. Yeah.

And then when you find out, you find out, holy shit, did I take mushrooms by accident? Oh, my God. It's, yes, it's a wild ride. I thought it was going to be like a kind of, just like a lovely British show that's like also involved like a love triangle and some, some sort of intrigue. I wasn't prepared for what the show turned into. I was under the impression that it was a 90s thriller, erotic thriller throwback. So I was like, oh, okay.

So it's going to be like a love triangle with a psychologist and, you know, maybe there's some single white female stuff. going on in here. I thought it was like a single white female fatal attraction situation for like the first two to three episodes and then it takes a real turn. Yes. So let's just jump into it. We're going straight to episode six, the last episode of this mini series, season one.

We'll come back to that. Chris, what happens at the end of behind her eyes? Okay. So for everybody who's watched it, we'll just go by character names and we don't need to really explain it. What I'll do is let's go up to the moment when the real Louise finds. out that the real Rob, who is in Adele's body, has taken a near-fatal dose of heroin and litter house on fire because she is,

she can't deal with, like, the world that, in that way, I think actually she still thinks it's Adele, right? Yes, she does. So I think Louise, I think that Adele, whether you think it's, whether Louise thinks it's Rob or Adele, but that Adele basically preys on Louise's good nature. Like, she basically knows that Louise will come over to her house. and save her and thus giving her the opportunity to jump into Louise's body. And that's who David really wants.

But she can continue or he can continue or Rob's soul can continue to control David going forward. And this is that accurate? Do you feel like that's accurate? Yes. What happens at the end is we have learned that through this astral projection. Mind contortion called astral projection. Yeah. People who are, I guess, like high on heroin and focusing.

really hard, are able to have an out of box. No, just people who count before they take naps can jump their soul into another human body. Like, the people who are in the middle of really strenuous activity can just go, one, two, three, four. And on the fifth number, just fall into Inception World and start jumping bodies. Christopher Nolan probably love this show. That's a great point.

So Astral Projection is this technique that Rob and Adele honed together when they are in rehab in Scotland. And it basically is like an out of body experience that allows you to like, allows one soul to travel to see other things. And so this is like how Adele, as we know her for most of the show is like controlling Louise and Rob essentially. But it turns out of the very end that not only can you leave your own body to like have an exploration wherever you choose to go, but you can also switch bodies.

And it turned. And then into that means that this character. Rob, who we have seen in flashbacks, who we thought was dead, turns out that his soul is still living because he took over Evie Houston's body in a flashback. Adel's body. Killed her with a crazy dose of heroin and threw her down a well. But her soul is in Rob's body. And nobody knew this until us at the very end of the show. So here's my big unanswered question.

Okay. Because the end of this episode and the end of this season is a little bit confusing. and I think you're still trying to, I'm trying to put together some of the stuff that happened. Does David know that Rob is inside of Adele? No, I don't think so. I don't think David knows anything.

I think David is like, you're meant to think that at first he's the villain and then he's the victim and then he is just sort of like an idiot. His physical deterioration over the course of six episodes was really well done. I thought he looked so bad

by the end of the show. Just like really stressed out. And I think there's just like a lot to still parse. Like, are you supposed to think that Louise and David were kind of brought together

by Adele? Or was there an attraction there that Adele sensed, Adele who has rob in her body throughout the show? Well, I think that the idea that we were supposed to get is that Adele is always traveling around spying on David. Now, I don't know if she was

at that bar because, like, remember, there are the rules that you have to have physically experienced a place to be a little lucid dream about it. But let's just assume that Adele is constantly stalking David and constantly following him around with her dreams. Then she knows that they have slept, that they kissed and that that woman, when she goes into the office, like, she knows immediately like Louise is the apple of David's eyes. So this is probably a long game for her. Right. And then once you find out the rules of this astral projection, you have to think back to every scene that somebody has been in.

Like Eve Houston has been in. She plays Adele so that... Which explains why people are just randomly show up at each other's houses. Yeah, so exactly. Which is like why Adele decided to go to Louise's apartment, meet her at the council estates, like,

all of that. It's like really weird. But so my question for you, Chris, is once the soul of Rob has taken over Adele's body and then Louise's body, does he know everything that's happened previously? Like, what level of knowledge

as he brings all the interactions going forward? Because he seems very uncomfortable in Louise's body. He seems like he's learning how to speak, doesn't know her preferences. So at the end of the show, the first suggestion that there might be a season two is that Louise slips up and says,

I don't, I want to go on a Caribbean cruise. And her son is like, you don't like boats. And she's goes, people can change. So obviously, like when she, and she also starts dressing differently.

She starts wearing sandals everywhere and stuff, just like Adele does. So I think that when you, when you arrive in somebody's body, there's a learning process. I thought that the actress who plays Louise did an amazing job in like the last three minutes. She was great.

But it just begs the question is how David could not notice the huge difference in her demeanor. Here's my next question for you. Is David a good doctor and what was he doing to his wife, Adele? No, David is not a good doctor at all. And he was definitely trying to pump Adele full of antipsychotics so that she wouldn't go around threatening anybody he spoke with. But I just don't understand why he didn't just leave her.

Is it because he felt threatened that she would say that he murdered Rob? I think so. But at no point did you believe that David murdered Rob, right? No. No, not really. What point did you realize that Adele was the villain of the show? Like, she was the unstable force. It's Rob.

It's Rob, yes. But Eve He said in rehab, Robb starts to get. a little bit weirder. Like, because at the beginning of rehab, you think Rob's just going to be like her fun friend. And then as it goes on and his character continues to be there, and then as he starts to say things like, you know, you shouldn't let him control you

or you shouldn't make these decisions while you're in the nut house or whatever, it starts to become more and more apparent that he's a bigger character. And then as soon as he sees David at the house, the first time, he's like, I'm in love with David. Yes. And that's, right, that's the motivation here,

so he's in love with David. Um, what happened to Adele's parents? And I gotta say, just as a, you know, it's 2021. I, I, like, if I could marry someone who acts like Rob and is like as funny as him and looks like Eve Hewson, I'd be pretty into it. Of course. Rob's a good time. Yeah, he's probably a better party, man. Yeah.

Absolutely. I think this is just at the point of which Chris and I have to admit that we're just really big Eve Hewson fans. Sure. Because she's on the neck. Yeah. And I've, I've been waiting for her to have a, a. a comeback. And is this show a comeback for Eve Houston? What level of sensation would you say this show is? Well, we don't know if she's going to come back if there is a season two. So that's the biggest

unanswered question is what happens to Louise inside of Adele's body. There's like a little bit of ambiguity because she's being cradled by Robin, Louise's body outside of the house. She's taking this huge dose of heroin and she's been inhaling smoke. But we don't ever see like, it does seem weird that David would just be like, let's get married. right now. It was like your wife's dead. So I will say that this is a huge comeback for you Fuson.

She seems to be having a lot of fun in this show. Did you know? This guy, the guy who plays David dates Daisy Ridley in my life, right? I know, yes. His name, the woman who plays Louise, we should say her name is Simone Brown and Tom Bateman is the man who plays David.

He dates Daisy Ridley. They seem like a total normy couple who just live a great London life and just wear like, you know, nice rain clothes, It was just very appropriate for London. Yes. Like, they've got a great thing going on.

He was in a masterpiece show that I'm going to watch now that he's like in my life. It was called Beecham House. So it's available on PBS streaming. I'm looking forward to that. I'll report back. But do you think that, I mean, I guess I'd leave it open for a season two, but do you think that Adele is dead? What was your assumption when you were watching?

So this is kind of the thing that it is now faces every. I don't think this is pitch as a limited series necessarily, but it's six episodes. So it's not like they're trying to like take a. snapshot of contemporary London. I mean, this is very much like a twist-oriented mystery with some science fiction bullshit tacked onto it. But at the end, like, you definitely want David to realize that Rob is in Louise's body and you're holding out hope that there is some astral projection switch that can happen. But it's like, do you really want to go back to this show? Like, do you want them to go back to this? I don't think so. Also, you would just be twist hunting for the

rest of the time to be like, what's going on here? How is this actually happening? I don't think they should do a season two, but I did really enjoy like this world, which, you know, maybe the bar is just low for me right now. But I was, I was enjoying watching the show a lot. Like I just like being in Islington is nice, even if it's not like just all the shots of Islington are really nice. And I, there's, there's just some like rough edges to it where I'm just like, what's going on with this character? And they never quite explain it like Sophie, oh, Louise's friend who shows up for like five scenes and has like really intense dramatic conversation, but has no actual action in the show only comes so that Louise can mark her

kind of emotional journey. And then the funniest thing about this series, totally, even though it's set in London, it looks great, is that there is a character who is named five to ten times, named Lisa, who is Louise's ex's new girlfriend, who is now becoming like sort of a surrogate mother figure to Adam. And they mention her every single scene that Ian and Louise are together, and we never meet Lisa. And like Lisa is, like, like, definitely like 15 feet from action sometimes. And it's like, tell Lisa, I said hello. It's like, why doesn't Lisa just come on camera so we can get a look? Lisa, show your face. I wonder whether or not that was a little bit so that we didn't feel too bad for Adam. Like his dad could eventually take him back,

you know? Oh, yeah. I think you have to assume that Louise and David will not be maintaining custody. I don't think Louise as Rob wants to have custody of this child. No. So I felt so sad for the son, like just so, so sad. He'll run away for sure. Do you think that Lisa, got cut out because for time or whatever or even she was never filmed? Like how much she needed? I honestly feel like she was never filmed. Because like there's several times that Ian's like, would you like to see Lisa? And she's like, no, I got to go. My God. It's so funny. There's also really no point to her being a mother in the show except for having an excuse to like not see David and then have someone catch on to the fact of the

very end that she's not right because David's so dumb. Yeah, there's a lot of made of like Adam going on his little trip to France, but it's really just plot convenience so that she can have wild sex with David for a week. Yeah, so she's just alone. Yeah. It's all so confusing. I was just so, I think,

catfated by the show because it was just so unexpected. At what point did it turn for you? And you were like, oh. So this is something, you and I, one of the major topics of conversation between us for the last 10 years has been the internet. And I have to say that one thing that got to me was anywhere you looked that was vaguely T-Fee,

based website over the last couple of weeks, there has been some post that says the crazy twist ending at the end of behind her eyes explained. And I know that people go out of their way not to see what the twist is in the headline, but just knowing that a bunch of things were going to happen in the last episode or two, I was kind of like, well, I kind of figured this out.

And as soon as you find that the last few pages of Rob's journal, also, why did Rob give Louise the journal? Like, did she, was that like a guide for her? I didn't really make any sense. I think he was trying to be honest with her. I just kind of like guessed it out. Yeah. No talk of insurance in this show.

I'd love to know about how the NHS factors into David's practice. And Adele, I thought you were talking about fire insurance. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that as well. Sure. But David's just too dumb. I think it's hard to believe in shows like this where the lead is so stupid.

But I don't watch a lot of thrillers. Like, is this on par for like what a kind of ignorant or naive lead is like in this kind of show? there is definitely a type of guy who is usually the main character, the protagonist of these kinds of thrillers, especially from the 90s, usually played by a Baldwin brother or Michael Douglas, who is essentially led by his desire rather than his intellect

and it gets him into really bad situations. I was expecting Glenn Close to come out with like a cooked rabbit. And I was like, when I was like, who's going to be cooking the rabbit? Is it Louise or is it Adele? That's the way to make it seem like on the Netflix. homepage because when you, the sort of trailer that plays, when you scroll over it, Adele furiously cutting parsley. Yeah. I know. And David being like, where's your phone? I know.

When David's like asking her, what did you do all day? And he's quizzing her on how she spends her time. Do you think he knows about the astral projection? No. I think he just thinks that she's out and about terrorizing anybody he has conversations with. Mm-hmm. And so she's just really protective and obsessed with him and the wake of Rob's death. Yes. Yes. Interesting. Because, yeah, otherwise, a lot of the things he does don't really make sense. They don't truly explain, like, what his type of therapy is and therefore, like, how he has helped her or has not helped her. There's so much unexplained about the relationship,

like, how they met and, like, you know, like, the real origin story that we get the origin story of Rob being in love with David, but like, that's, like, basically it. Well, so I guess we're supposed to think that he does this community outreach for addicts because of Rob, right? And that's, like, his way of, like, making a men. Atoning, yeah. But little does he know. It's just so wild.

So do you want a season two? No, I would just like more shows like it. Me too. When you watch a Netflix show or any show that, like, really just hits the right note for you, it just, I become, like, addicted. I'm just like, I need more of this. Like, like, like, Adele with her, her win. Just, like, give me another shot behind her eyes.

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