The Prestige TV Podcast - 'Justified: City Primeval' Episode 4 Recap

Episode Date: August 3, 2023

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I'm Joanna Robinson. Join me today for a truly special episode of Justified City Primeval. It's Robbohny. Hi, Ralph. How are you doing? Hi, Joe. You know, we're back talking justified yet again. And frankly, look, the listeners are going to have to deal with it, whether they like it or not.

Because I've always said, you can choose your friends, but your podcast, hosts are thrust upon you, right? I love that you're already deep into the Albanians because this is a very Albanian-centric episode of Don't Let the Kokomo title Fool You. Quick programming reminders, etc. before we get started. Number one, elsewhere in the feed. Van and I will be covering the finale of Hijack.

I was like, it's the series finale. It's a mini-series. Hijack, over. OC, re-watch, over. As of this week, we did the full. final episode of that with Nora Princeati. Juliet Lemon and I did that. So we closed out through episode seven of the OC.

That was our player from the start. That is what we achieved. Winning time is coming up. Rob Mahoney, what's your opinion in general on winning time as our basketball guy? I'm pro. Extremely over the top. But over the top in a way I appreciate. Just like don't take it as gospel and we're all going to be fine.

It's not a documentary. No. Okay. Speaking of documentaries, this is also not a documentary. Only murders in the building is back. season three. So Mal and I will be doing sort of a season one and two recap episode and then Mallory and I will be covering

the first episode of season three next week. So that's happening over in the ringer verse. We're talking about good omens. We're talking about Doctor Who. There's just a bunch of stuff over there. So that's what's going on here there and everywhere. Follow us on the ringer on socials, etc. Subscribe to Prestage TV feed and then you don't have to even listen to this part. You can just skip ahead.

Spoiler warning. Up through episode 4, Kokomo, because that's all as far as Rob and I have watched. It's true. Written by Taylor Elmore and directed by Gwyneth Hortar-Pa-Tayton. Gwynth Hortar-Payton is like a real FX house director, has done a lot of FX shows over the years. Including a lot of Justified.

Like actually, so as I told you, I've been pulled into yet another classic Justified rewatch. I love this. I love this. I love this. Which was Loose Ends toward the end of season three, which is another episode not unlike Kokomo weighing different forms of justice. You may remember it as the episode where a random henchman accidentally steps on a pressure release landmine and has to stand perfectly still lest he explode.

And also the episode where, what's his name, our guy Delroy, the abusive pimp, gets what's coming to him courtesy of Ava Crowder. So great, great, again, justice-themed episode as many episodes of Justified Alphenar. I love that. I want to talk about your Justified Rewatch in a second, actually. I have it marks to talk about, but quick, like, corrections department that's not really corrections department. In either one of our episodes or perhaps in the Hall of Fame episode I did with Chris and Mallory,

I said that Elmore Leonard's son was involved in City Prime Evil. And a bunch of people thought I met Taylor Elmore, like I was having a stroke and thought that Elmore Leonard's son was Taylor Elmore. Or actually, you know what? Maybe I even said that. I would not put it past me. Maybe I did have a stroke and said that. But I was like, I went to a justified city prime mobile panel.

I know his son was there. I know I didn't make this up. Peter Leonard, who's Elmore Leonard's son, is an executive producer on the show. So Elmore's son, Peter Leonard, is involved. Taylor Elmore, despite having a name in common with Elmore, is no relation. So that is where we are. So you can confirm that Peter Leonard and Taylor Elmore are different people. Oh, well, they at least wear different hats.

And that brings us to something I want to say to you today, which we have. have three corners this week for our justified episode that I'm really excited about. We're doing a hat corner. Okay. We're doing bourbon corner. And we are doing an old standard that I used to do every week on the Lost Rewatch podcast I did, which is Accent Corner because we're lousy without bathing. And we're going to talk about it.

So I'm feeling pretty good about all that. Before we get into that, though, I did want to do. So we're mid-season, this episode four, where there's only eight episodes. So mid-season check-in and justify rewatch check-in. And I wanted to ask you, given that you have fallen head first into a justified re-watch, um, sigh. It happens to the best of us. Um, how does watching that and then switching over to city of primeval, like, is it

making you appreciate city primeval more? Have you identified maybe some things that are different or missing or something like that, um, as you spend time with an earlier version of Raylan Gibbons? I mean, there's definitely some contrasts. I will say I fell into it initially because I actually went back to watch Bloody Harlan after y'all talked about it on the Hall of Fame pod. And I've just been cruising since then. And so now I'm well into, I think about to close out season four.

We're in like, you know, trying to get Drew Thompson out of Harlan territory. Great stretch of the series. Again, if you haven't watched the original Justified, seasons 2, 3, 4, just incredible shit. And the other seasons have plenty to recommend. But I will say the thing that has jumped out the most is definitely by the sheer volume of episodes and the amount of time that they have, Tim and Rachel, aka the other marshals, just get so much more to do than the other cops on City Prime Evil do. And you can understand that with like an abbreviated series, a miniseries format. Again, one series versus six seasons. You're just

not going to have the same kind of real estate. But it's notable. Like, you know, both Rachel and him have some incredible stretches. They get to be heroes. They get to crack cases on their own. They get to save Raylan's ass when he's digging his own grave. We just haven't really gotten that yet from the rest of the DPD. Although, you know, we'll see over the back half of this series. What are you talking about?

Norbert's on, like, just an all-star of this episode. I've got lots of Norbert thoughts about this episode. A lot of notes. Yeah, Rachel even gets to wear the hat at one point. So that's a thing that happens. Yeah, I think that's a really good note. I think, you know, you drill down last week on something I thought was really smart, which is that anytime we are with like sort of the core three main characters of this show,

we're having a great time that's a little thin on the ground this week. And I did feel the lack of it. So I do think Justified did a better job of maybe giving us side characters that we were equally delighted to spend time with. I do want to shout out that on the Maureen front, because we get very, We get very little of her, but at the beginning of this episode, but it makes a solid Beverly Hills cop reference. Good job, Maureen. Somewhat, a listener, and I do not have their name in front of me, and I so apologize. They either tweeted me or emailed me, and I cannot remember.

But we were talking about how sketchy Maureen seems to us, and is she involved, XYZ? I can't remember if we articulated this, but the listener articulated, I think, a bit better, the idea that like perhaps Maureen's name is in the book. It's not so much that she's sort of in with, but she doesn't want the book discovered because it will incriminate her. I think that was on our minds, but I'm not sure we exactly articulated it that way.

So I thought that was. Yeah, I don't think we have any idea of exactly, even if she is involved, what her motive would be yet, just that she seems to be caught up in this in a way that has not yet been revealed. All right, let's, we're going to kick off with Accent Corner

before we break down the episode. Yeah. And I want to shout out, we met, you know, we met a bunch of, Albanians on this episode. Toma Castia is our sort of our chief Albanian. I like the way that he said Skendair. We've been saying Skender, but he said

Skendair, which I loved. Okay, this is how Accent Corner used to, we're going to do this really quickly. Don't ever fear. This is how Accent Corner used to work on Lost, where I would give you a character. Okay. And you would tell me, do you think they are of the place that they are doing

the accent for A and B if not whereabouts do you think they're from Oh boy okay

if you want if you want and you can you just say like American or like whatever you know

okay so Terry Kinney Toma Castia are sort of main Albanian Albanian or no definitely not

I mean for one you know he is an incredible that guy so if he has been Albanian all this time then that's what I would be

shocked. This is the easiest one. We've seen him in a lot of things. Where do you think he's from? I imagine he's, I'm going to guess like from the northeast, maybe, like of Northeast America. He's from Illinois. I consider that. Closish, but, you know, adjacent. Yeah. Alexander Pabitsky, who plays Skandar. Yeah. Where do you think he's from? Not Albanian, but Central European. Maybe like Polish. He is actually from Detroit. From Detroit. I'm sure his family is, you know, with his name. I'm sure his family is not, but originally. But yeah, he is from, well, whatever originally means in America.

But yeah, he's from Detroit. And he used to go by Scout Martin Pabotsky, but now has gone with the much more Eastern European-sounding Alexander. All right, Yosef Kaznezkevitt. No, kind of fuck that up. Anyway, who plays Besnik, who is the Albanian with a really nice beard. That guy is, as we both know, just a dead ringer for Sacramento King's Center, Domas, a bonus. Just an absolute likeness. Yes.

Clear. They could be twins. Do you think he's actually Albanian? Here's the thing. I was perusing his IMDB. And he has played so many American cops, and American law enforcement agents. Yeah.

I'm going to guess that he grew up in America. Okay. This is a really good... I really like that you said grew up in America. He grew up in... He's from Hawaii, Honolulu. Yes. He's been on Hawaii,

He's from Hawaii, but his parents emigrated from Eastern Europe. So, like, he is first generation. Okay. Last but not least, a big, tall drink of water does not make it through the episode alive. Nick Drizbensky as Luca? What do you think? Albanian or no? Oh, sorry.

Evan Mulroney. Evan Mulroney as Agron. That's the other one. There's the one in the car that Relin talks to, but we don't need to do them. We'll just do this last one. Evan Mulroney does not sound Albanian. It does not. are you throwing me by including him in here?

I'm going to guess he did grow up in Central Europe somewhere. This man is from Delaware. So not a single Albanian was harmed in the making of this episode of Justified. So that means since all of their accents are fake, I'm allowed to imitate them. And it is not a hate crime. So here we go. It's good to know. We are going to go in four sections today.

Okay. We're going to start with Raylan and Skender, basically just like the hospital stuff. And then Raylan and the larger Albanian community. Yes. And the Albanian henches and everything that they get up to. Those are our like double Albanian appetizers. Then we're going to do the, you know, give it to me black and blue main course, which is Clement and Sandy and sweetie.

Many, many, many thoughts. And then saving the best for last dessert is, of course, Raylon and Carolyn. So we will end with them. So let's start with Raylan doing his absolutely absurd walk into the hospital. We find out the Skender didn't die.

Skender lives. Made it through. What do you make of this? So we get to see what happened with his leg in the door and how Sandy reacts to that and all of that. How did that, what pop for you in that sequence? I mean, for one, my dude is going to have a leg that's more pins and screws

than bone, I think, by the time. all is said and done. Very, very tough for Skender. Skender lollygag, as Klaman refers to him in this episode, brutal. Look, he went through a whole pronunciation explainer. Skender Lulcherai, I think is how he explains it to Raylan, aka clumsy Jesus, as he's also described in this episode. I will say, like, you know, very tough for him,

that whole sequence getting his leg crushed. But as a viewer, I have to admit, I admire the painfully slow drop of the panic room door, like pretty effective and terrifying device. And yet another reminder of something you've been talking about all throughout the series, which is that Sandy and Clement seem to have very different ideas of what a good time is. And we see Sandy throughout this episode just like a total bundle of nerves. It feels like a matter of time before she completely shatters to pieces. Whereas Clement's justification for shattering Skender's leg is he provoked me by not having any money in his safe.

Sandy having an aggressively bad time Not enjoying herself In the slightest She's like Why don't you just punch him in the face No instead we're going to maim him for life

So that's how Clement rolls And piss off all the Albanians in the process She like gave a I can't decide whether Clement is smart or stupid It's such an interesting character She gave him a whole convenient monologue about what was going to happen.

Like, the foreshadowing could not have been heavier when she was like, here's how Albanians work. And he was like, that guy's nobody from nowhere. And he's like, nothing's going to happen in this episode. So I feel like we're airing on the side of he's stupid when it comes to these things, given that he, I'm trying to remember how he pronounces Albanian. When he's giving sweetie, presenting the engagement ring to sweetie as payment for,

for his bar getting trashed, I think he, I think he says, Albanya. He says Albany. A genuine ring from Albania. Yeah. So I'm going to say he's not exactly on He's he's geopolitically dumb. That we already knew, right? But like, we saw him do the stoplight maneuver last week and I was like, this guy's smart. And then he got warned, aggressively warned about the Albanian community. And we find out that Skandere is not just like, not just any Albanian with a hot dog stand. No. He is the prince of the Detroit Albanian mafia, right? The nephew of Toma Castia.

The world is his hot dog stand, you know? I do know. But I will say as far as... It's not a sandwich, very important. Yeah. No, okay. All right. Whether Clement is smart or stupid,

he does walk that line so effectively that no matter what he does, I find myself thinking, did he do that on purpose? Right. To the point that when he makes this whole scene at the restaurant, which I know we're going to talk about later, and he's dragging it.

it out. I'm thinking, is he delaying on purpose thinking that the Albanians and the cops are going to have a run in that will kind of take care of each other? But we can revisit all that later. Again, I'm with you where I'm like, I'm of two minds about it. Raleen comes to the hospital. I just want to shout out that Norbert, just like an unhinged bad cop performance from Norbert throughout this entire episode that ends in a shooting. But I do like his first line, which is the hat shows up when all the fun done. And as we're going to return to Hat Corner very quickly, but I think you want to say about this initial sort of interaction between the Detroit PD, you already mentioned the clumsy

Jesus lie, which is like one of my favorite real-insons we've ever gotten. Yeah, how about that? It's funny that you say that Norbert is having like an aggressively bad cop episode because there are a lot of times in this episode where it felt like to me, Raylan, this older, more grizzled, more wizened version of Raylan is almost like arguing with a past version of himself and his most impulsive tendencies in Norbert. Like some of the things that Norbert does are things you could kind of see or maybe we even did see a younger Raylan do in terms of like trying to pit these sides against each other in terms

of putting like creating dangerous situations. Well, I think the worst version of Raylan, right? Because like the reason we singled out an episode like Bloody Harlan in season two have justified is that Railen does, has a moment where he's playing, do something like that. He's just going to let Boy Crowder take care of Dickie Bennett for him, which is sort of exactly what Norbert does here. But it is like this huge moment for Raleen, not a Tuesday, which is what it seems like for Norbert.

Do you know what I mean? So, yes, like the very worst devil on his shoulder sort of thing. We're just going to like hop, skip, and jump in a hat corner here because nice hat, Stetson 10x is what are not... Nails the freaking model. Are not long... Well, corrections department.

You did not. Well, I was just wondering, because I don't know... I mean, you're a Texas boy, but I don't really know my Stetson's from anything else. And so I just wanted to like... I was like, is it a Stetson 10X? Is that what it is? Or is he making some sort of comment with it? So, this tall Albanian who is not...

long for this world. Stets and Ten X. Okay. So I went down a rabbit hole. Like, what hat does Timothy Oliphant wear on Justified in the original series and in this series, et cetera, et cetera. And I just want to say that I found an incredible pair of YouTube videos from this guy called the history nerd.

And it's like, if you're kindly grandpa wanted to sit down on a leather couch and talk to you for 24 minutes over the course of two YouTube videos about what hat railing given's wears while he does an unboxing of the Stetson Marshall Hat, that content exists for you. And I watched it and it was incredible. And I really like, he started with this like history of the cowboy hat and how it went, I mean, again, you're, you're a Texan, so you know more about this than I do. But like how it went out of Vogue for a really long time and only came back in in the 70s, 80s, kind of because Hollywood, because John Travolta is an urban cowboy, because Dallas is like the most

popular show on television, et cetera. Like people start wearing cowboy hats again and not just like people who work on ranches. And it still happens like the models, the making models of the hats that they wear on Yellowstone are quite popular because people watch Yellowstone. They love it and they want to wear those hats. But there is, you might know about the Elmore Leonard's opinion of Realens hat. Have we talked about that before? I don't think we have.

Okay, so in the books, in the stories, Raylan wears a Stetson model called the Open Road, which Elmore Leonard calls the Dallas businessman special, which is what LBJ used to wear. Sure. And that's the hat that he wanted Raylan to wear. And it was like his one condition when Graham Yos is like, we're going to do this justified show,

is he was like, I really want Realin to wear the right hat because, you know, in the previous iteration, where James LaGroo played, Raylan, he was like, they gave him the way wrong hat. So please give him the right hat. And they're like, sure,

and then they did it. And Omar Lenin's like, it wasn't the right hat. Deputy U.S. Marshall, Raylan Givens, as played by Tim the Oliphon, wears a custom-made, not a Stetson.

It's from a company called Barron Hats, which is a Hollywood-based company that makes fancy hats for Hollywood productions, Custom made him his Seth Bullock Hats for Deadwood So they went back to Barron Hats for this You can buy the RG It's called The Rail and Givens

You can buy it on the Barron Hats website For $1,200. If you've got $1,200 lying around And you want to wear the RG Is that expensive? Do you think? Yeah, I'm sure Spotify will cover it. I think we both should wear it to podcast.

It's research. Yeah, exactly. But if you don't, know anything about hats in Hollywood. Don't you love Hat Corner? You know anything about hats in Hollywood. You know that they're not going to put the $1,200 custom-made hat on the stand-ins and the stunt doubles. So there were, yes, Stetson hats floating around on Justified, but they weren't the ones that, to be the only thought where he wore a custom-made barren hat $1,200.

You can buy the Stetson Marshall that they made, that Stetson started making after Justified started. Wow. For 115 to 120 bucks. They used to sell it on the official Justify website. So like $1,200 for the real deal, Baron Hat, or 115, 120 bucks, much more reasonable for the like sort of stunt double facsimile that they were on Justified. No matter what, though, Raylan's wearing a 4x, at most a 6x.

10x is what the Albanian said. So my question is this. Do you feel like he was trying to make Raylan feel bad that he didn't wear a big enough hat? Like he doesn't wear a 10x? Or is he like your hat is so big, it might as well be a 10x. Do you know what I mean? I feel like it's more of the latter. But the fact that an Albanian gangster has this level of knowledge about cowboy hats is alarming, questionable.

I'm utterly baffled by it, especially this guy who I think that might be his longest dialogue exchange in the entire episode. Yeah, he doesn't seem like the brains of the operation. Like he's the brawn. Yeah. Well, maybe he, like me, likes, enjoys the history nerds YouTube channel where he unboxes Stetsons and talks about them. Norbert's, I know, a little Albanian. There was this, like, funny way that Norbert was, like, watching Raylan in the scene where

I was like, I think he has a little crush on Raylan, like, honestly. Like, he wants to hang out with him. But this is how he, like, sort of winds up in the conversation with Toma that happens in the next scene. and then he's with Raylan for the rest of the episode until the whole Carolyn thing happens. But like, if I'm Raylan, I'm ditching Norbert after this meeting with the Albanians. I'm not bringing him with me to Sandy's

for this like fraught situation that ends with, you know, a man dead. But do you want to talk about this big meeting with Raylan and Toma Castia are our big mob boss that we get in this series? We love a mob boss on Justified. We love them. mob boss. And really we love this kind of setup for Justified, which is putting Raylan between

a mob boss and a criminal organization and this other agent of chaos, right? Where, you know, where Boyd Crowder once stood, Clement Mansell does now, you know, where various other criminal organizations stood, including ones from Detroit. Now we have the Albanians. And we're getting a sense of how the Albanians operate and who they are. And it's apparently out of a senior daycare center, which power to you, you know, it's a great front. I don't think anyone's going to bother to look past the room with the... It's a pleasure to get back to the community. You know what I mean?

Look, all I saw was a couple people having the time of their life, bobbing a balloon around, and I wanted to be a part of it. There you go. Yeah, this order versus justice conversation that you brought up earlier comes up here, right? Justice requires more than the law is willing or able to provide. And Norbert has no finesse here, but I thought, like, not only... I think not only is Raylan, you know, well-suited for this conversation because he has dabbled himself in, like, you know, order versus justice. But it just feels like a holler logic to me, right?

Like him sitting down and, you know, this begrudging uncle who hates his idiot nephew, who says, who did this to Skender, did the same unto me? You could hear you know, Mags Bennett or someone in the holler saying that, right? Prove to me that Raylan and Limehouse didn't have this exact same conversation. Exactly. Tome uses the word shkerate, which means bitch in Albanian. Is that my, did I nail it? Well, we'll see.

And then, yeah, and then Norbert does this wild move of giving Clement's name to Toma. And I love that Toma's like, you want him, you better find him quick or he'll be dead. And then ominously writes down his name on a posted note. Just Mansell. Not the first name. No. None required. We then go to the casino.

Where Sandy's shitty boss, who we've met a couple times, Rick, played by the great Ravi Patel, who, if you've never seen the film Meet the Patels, which is this documentary series he did about arranged marriages and his family and stuff like that. It's a really good movie that was at, like, Sundance many years ago. I love him as a performer. I don't love him in this role because I feel like they, especially when they blackbag him, I feel like they're trying to give us Dewey Crow. You know what I mean? He's like flailing around the backseat. He's finger-gutting himself in like reflections and stuff like that.

And I was like, you're trying to get me Dewey Crow or Dickie Bennett or whatever. And you're just not quite nailing it. How do you feel about it? It works sometimes for me, not for others. He's definitely supposed to be like kind of a dufous. as middle managers in the justified world often are. Yeah. I will say, I do need your clarification on something,

because I know you watch these episodes with closed captioning. We get this sequence where the Albanians come to talk to him to try to find Sandy because Sandy's, you know, Sandy's, their sister's wedding party, et cetera, et cetera. She's late for the rehearsal. They're trying to get Sandy's address. And after the Albanians leave before the finger guns, Rick says something under his breath. And I believe he says,

fucking no-neck Albanian cock-twizzlers but I'm not positive on that can you confirm what he said that is literally what I wrote down except I wrote down clock twislers but I have to assume

that was a typo on my part but yeah no-neck Albanian I want to know what a clock twiddler is you know I'm curious about that too but he does his role in this does illuminate something that I think is important to understanding the Albanians too

which is that like Norbert, at this level of the Albanian operation, they're not exactly subtle either in the way that they maneuver. Like, they're trying to bribe him and failing. Later in this episode, they try to talk their way into Sandy's apartment and fail miserably, just like have no finesse or cover at all. And to the point where they do this like bag over the head operation to drive around in donuts in the parking lot,

for what reason? Like, if they're just going to dangle him over the side of a building, do you really need to drive around in circles before you do that? I feel like, don't you think his heart rate's up from the backseat donuts? I feel like it might have been up from dangling him off the side of the building. Fair enough. Fair enough. Can't go much higher.

No, I did write down like genuinely terrible at their excuse for trying to find Zandi. Like I love, I love that our bearded Albanian Besnik has like concocted an unnecessarily convoluted. Backstory. And it's just like wildly unconvincing. But yeah, yeah, everyone's going off halfcock, except for Clement and Raylan, right? Are you looking for support in your weight management journey? Zepbound terseptide may be able to help.

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Have you written down her name? Isn't it Hina? It is Hina. I thought it was Tina, but it is Hina with an H, which is a fun name. I love this character. I thought she was great. more this is this is what I mean when I say give me a justified side character this spunky chick who's like what fuck you and your pliers get the fuck out of here I'm gonna swear at you and like convincing

mandarin all this or stuff like that so um you know the albanian saying things like bravery such as this is an ephemeral thing is really fun but even more fun is what makes an Albanian the fact that I'm holding it the Albanian tooth extractor like that's we have fun on justified I'm and extract it does. I did think this sequence was important in the sense that to this point other than a shot in the head here or there or a car exploding,

City Primeval has not been terribly violent. The original justified can be pretty gnarly sometimes. A certain big bad got disarmed, we'll say. Another dude gets his ankle monitor foot chopped off in a way that look, I was worried for our friend Tyrone when he kicked up his ankle monitor

on Carolyn's office table. you please watch out in this world. But here, like, it's not just an Albanian tooth extractor in name. Like, we see it being put to pretty effective use and pretty grisly use. Maybe not in, like, an old boy claw end of the hammer business end way, but still. At least in an alias series premiere kind of way. At least. Given the timeline that they gave her, like how many teeth they were going to extract per minute,

she must have lost a lot of teeth. Like, I mean, her mouth is full of blood, so I couldn't really tell. But, like, that wasn't, like, one or two teeth they pulled out. I feel like they pulled out a bunch. Well, it certainly wasn't a molar, which is what they told her is we're going to start with the molars. And when we see them removing a tooth, it's like a canine, maybe. Right up front, totally. The only thing standing between Hina and losing all over teeth is because, you know, Sandy and Clement are not in a hurry.

Sandy is Clement is not. because Sandy cares about her shoes. I mean, she should. But Raylan and Norbert roll up, right? And again, if I'm rail and I'm not taking Norbert in this operation, but here we are. I do want to shout out that Norbert says, I hope they don't fuck like they park. They never get it in about the Albanian parking job.

Tremendous observation. Here's the moment that I really loved in the sequence, right? is when Norbert and the other Albanian go down the stairs and you hear the shots fired in the street, I reran and watched Timothy Lephone's face as Raylan like five times. This like, he's, he registers it, but he doesn't react. He doesn't even like, he doesn't really flinch. There's like an acknowledgement of what just happened downstairs. And then they find out sort of the outcome.

based on like who's calling up and stuff like that. But Raylan is just holding steady. And when the bearded Albanian looks like he's going to try to make a break for it, Raylan just like never loses control of his charm. He's just sort of like charmingly like, no, don't do it. You know what I mean? It's like, for all, for whatever critiques we may have of City Primeval, it is pure joy for me to just watch this actor play this character in every movie.

he makes, you know? There's so much of this, too, in the Raylan Carolyn stuff later, just like the little micro-acting decisions from Tim Aliphant that he's just crushing. But you're absolutely right about this part. And this is kind of the development in Raylan I was alluding to earlier between him and Norbert and the contrast between them. It's like, in this scene, not only does he have complete control of the situation, he's keeping his cool the whole time, he is insisting that this gangster not go for the gun that he's

eyeing in a way that, like, season any... really in any season of the original justified Raylan is not doing. That version of Raylan practically begged criminals to draw so that he would have an excuse to gun them down. Yes, yes. And to go from that version of Raylan to, again,

at the beginning of this episode, when he's telling Norbert, like, we want Clement to be prosecuted for his crimes and reform in a tiny cell, our guys come a long way. And it's cool to see, and then to see, again, this version of Norbert that's like,

Raylan probably at some point in his life would have been the guy, gunning down the other Albanian in the street. And instead, in this version, in this series, at this moment in time, he's this guy. And that guy is in complete control the situation. Be the Rachel you want to

see in the world. You know what I mean? Cool as a cucumber. Then we have the sequence where Clement drives by in slow motion. Again, sort of like the devil, a bogeyman sort of thing. Raylan looking,

Raylan has kept his cool throughout looks kind of horrified, like when he sees this, we get the slow-mo finger gun, like, moment from Clement punctuated by this bearded Albanian henchman, like, screaming in anguish over his dead friend. I think it might be his brother based on the names. Oh, his brother. Or at least a relative. Like, they have the same family name.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. side. Like, their fellow hench is upset or their brother in this case. You know what I mean? Like, you know, to give life to the other side of the divide here. Then we have anything else you want to say about the Albanians?

We're largely done with the Albanians here. I think we're mostly done for now. And we'll have to see kind of how they respond to, as Raan calls it, like, their personnel changes that have occurred over the course of this episode. But I'm curious to see what they're kind of counterpunch is, given that now the person who killed one of their own is not clenely. but it's, you know, Raylan or really the DPD. Yep.

Clement, Sandy, and sweetie. First things first. Is this the first we've seen Clement in the kimono? I don't think so. I mean, he's been in various permutations of open... Of the briefs. Open chess, something with the briefs, which as signature looks go, I can't complain.

It's really working for him. I'm a little... I couldn't say for certain, only because I know we saw it like in the trailers. So I had seen it, but like given the way that Sweetie talks about it later, I was like, is this our official in universe introduction to it? Either way, Camona looks great. Camono Plus Briefs.

Crush it. It looks insane and fantastic and, you know, good for Boyd in all of this. The judge's book was indeed in the bottom of the toaster. It took like a screwdriver to get it out. So like, again, smart versus stupid. That's a very smart hiding place. He didn't just, like, pull out the crumb drawer, which is kind of what I assumed he had done. He, like, took the toaster apart and put it in there and put it back together.

So, like, that's a point in the smart column for good old Clement here. Absolutely. Not praying proper attention to Sandy and her mental state is a point in the stupid column as far as I'm concerned. But we see we go to Sweetie's Bar. Sweetie is talking to insurance. They will not pay out the claim because, the cops are the one who destroyed his bar is sort of how that scene opens. You know, and if I'm sweetie, I'm perfectly primed to say, fuck it.

If the systems are not working for me, if the cops are coming after me, even though I did nothing wrong in the circumstance, if the insurance company won't pay out for me, why should I follow any rules or regulations in getting what's mine? Do you know what I mean? I do know what you mean. and I think his episode makes a little more sense under that context, but I have to say I'm just getting like a little bit of whiplash from his game planning and the way it's being portrayed in this episode and especially relative to last one.

Like I think it's a sequencing issue where the last time we saw Sweetie, he was ready to turn in Clement's gun over to, like turn it over to the authorities in exchange for immunity. When he sees Clement in this episode, again, after the conversation with the insurance agent or whoever, he's talked to learning about his insurance fate, he tips his hand about the gun to Clement for no real reason at all before Clement even mentions the judge's ledger.

And then Sweetie tells Carolyn that actually he misunderstood Clement before and maybe there's something to work with there and only later does Clement actually pitch Sweetie on being partners and using the judge's ledger while serenading him to Kokomo. I don't know that all of that

totally tracks in terms of where sweetie is and I don't have like a good sense of why he's going from one end to the other so much as just, I get what you're saying about being frustrated with the system in general, but he says he has this great plan to take Mansell down and get what's his.

And right now I just don't see what it is. Maybe it will come to light in a way that makes more sense. Maybe he's holding off on the gun. Maybe it's like milk the book because Clement does offer to go into business with him in the bar, right? So like over the journal. Does he? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, maybe that's what I'm missing here is that piece of the puzzle. But I still take your point about the gun. So maybe it's like, do some business with him with the journal and then double-cross him and turn in the gun or something like that. Do you know what I mean? For sure. But to your point, why would he let him know that he even knows where the gun is? That whole conversation with Clement and sweetie and Sandy where they're talking about

the gun and whether it was disposed of or not. And the fact that Sweetie has it, it felt like three people who probably should not be totally honest with each other being very honest with each other. And so, like, there's some plot mechanic stuff like that that didn't quite work for me. But to what your ultimate point is, like, the emotional truth of Sweetie's frustration. Like, he had this great line about, I'm just, like, tired of waiting around for the right thing to happen. Yes. So there's moments like that's like, okay, I understand emotionally where this character is.

I'm just trying to figure out how he is thinking he's getting from point A to point B. I want to point out, I completely agree with you. I want to point out two Leonardisms in this scene. Sweetie says, you set me up to ride your rap, and I did the Leo pointing meme when that happened because, you know, ride the rap is a famous Elmore Leonard story. And then the Walther P. 38, 9mm is so specific. And it's not the Walter P.P.K, which is the only Walter model I know, which is James Bond's gun. So I was like, is this a favorite gun of Elmore Leonard? Or is this one that Clement Mencell specifically uses in the city primeval book?

And indeed, it is. And I just like really liked this little section that I found for the book, City Primeval. Elmore Leonard likes the phrase do-do. So this is going to happen at the end of this passage, right? So Clement Mencel likes to lie down in front of trains is a thing that he does, apparently. And Elmore Leonard Wright's, Clement said it was like conditioning, preparing for the ball clutching moments of life while building your sphincter muscle. After lying in front of a freight train, you can lie in your bed, in your underwear, while two cops are visiting, asking about a certain black Buick. And while a mean-looking Walter P-38 automatic is hidden nearby at that very moment and not worry about making do-do in the bed. That's a little letter for you. The Elmore Leonard School, no adverbs.

Yes, do-do. Yes, do-do. Correct. Do not describe the weather, but we are allowed to use the frayed doo-doo. We've already talked about Clement and Sandy at the restaurant. The waiters dress up to look like it's TGI Fridays. In the window, though, you can see it's a place called RJ Grunts, which is a little continuity error

because they're supposed to be in Detroit and this is a Chicago restaurant. And I just need you to let you know that RJ Grunts in Chicago comes from the Lettus Entertain You like creation, lettuce being like lettuce on a sandwich, lettuce in a salad, let us entertain you. But wait, the actual...

I'm in so much pain. The actual tagline for the restaurant is this. Catering to the neurotic compensation of eating. That's the RJ Grunt's motto. What? Catering to the neurotic

compensation of eating. I don't know if it's on their merch, but it is on their website. That's heavier than I expected from like, at least what in this show is, you know, let us entertain you. And as you mentioned, like, T.J. Friday's aesthetic of this whole situation.

But you definitely can learn a lot about a person from, one, how they treat the weight staff. Correct. Two from what they order at lunch. And for Sandy, we get what looks to be like a salad, maybe with some grilled chicken. Not the most imaginative thing in the world. Something like that.

Yeah. Traditional cop. It gets the job done. Yeah. Clement, in the middle of the day. The sun's out. The sun is out. Steak and a baked potato.

He orders that steak black and blue, which is some homicidal maniac shit, if I have ever heard it. I have no problem with anyone who wants to order their steak rare. But do you really need to like fully chart the outside of your steak, like some kind of deviant? If you say bloody rare, even bloody rare, is fine. It's fine. It's fine. Is less upsetting than black and blue as a steak order. Absurd.

And then of course, his whole process for making a black and blue steak. Oh, my God. Which here's, here's, I want, I don't know that they exist, but I want some like truly unhinged, justified fans to exist. And I want them to have already pressed purchase on the $1,200 barren custom hat. Yes. And I want them to wear it while they try Clement Mencel's approach to making a black and blue steak, which is to sing two verses of what a white striped song? Dead Leaves on the Dirty Ground. Flip it.

Sing the third verse. Yank it off plate it. Which I will say like, okay, so Dead Leaves on the Dirty Ground, a pretty beloved white striped song. Maybe not so beloved that the random short order cook at a TGI Friday's equivalent would know two verses from memory I was a little lost at that

but we've also looked I like the white stripes motif thing they have going with Clement we have reached critical mass we did not we this felt like a nudge too far I thought well the episode's not titled

Dead Leaves on the Dirty Ground it's titled Kokomo so we're about to get a slight mirror variation his repertoire before the end of the episode. Again, I'm going to do a better job next week of writing down tweets as people send them to me, so I do apologize. But someone tweeted to me to let me know that we're going to be friends, which is the White Stripe song that Clement sang as he, a boogeyman out of the jail cell, is the theme song on Conan O'Brien's podcast.

Conan O'Brien is a dear, dear friend of Timothy Oliphant. And if you have never done so, please do yourself a favor. and YouTube, Timothy Elephant on Conan O'Brien, because they're the most charmingly unhinged late-night guest appearances I've ever seen in my life. There was a time that he came out in like flip-flops

and jean shorts and absolutely delight. Probably not California sober, absolutely delightful. Check them out. I don't know if that was an intentional nod because Clement's whole white stripes thing goes very deep. Anything else you want? Well, before we get to,

to Kokomo, which I do want to talk to you about for a second, Kokomo Corner. I want to talk a little bit about the vertical nature of the city. This is something that Mallory Rubin and I talk about, we talk about like Choruson on Star Wars, etc. Like there are certain cities that are set up where the vertical nature of them stand in for something. So we got this very memorable shot early in their season of Clement standing like no

kimono, no briefs, like naked. in Dell's high-rise apartment looking out sort of like King of the City kind of thing. So the idea that when Del comes up there, it seems like his mind is already made up, but like if it comes to like serpentine temptation,

like this is the, this is part of the cell that Clement is giving him is like you too could be vertically ascendant king of the city if you wanted to. All of this could be yours, Simba. Camonos and toasters and whatever else you may want,

wherever the light touches. Well, and the fact that he's making that pitch while singing about a fictional place, I think is certainly notable. Like, the fact that it's pinned to Kokomo, like this idea, this ideal of what you could have, certainly does not feel like a mistake. This is exactly what I want to talk to you about.

Okay, so when I was a kid, Kokomo was on the soundtrack to the film Cocktail. You've never seen it. Man, darker movie than you may remember if it's been a long time since you've seen cocktail. It's not all spinning shakers. I just have to tell you that. It kind of rules. I'm a big cocktail fan.

Cocktail kind of slaps. I love cocktail. I love Cocoa. I love this song. I know it backwards and forwards. I absolutely adore this song. It was during the pandemic. So within the last three years that I found out that Cocoa's not a real place.

Oh, no. At least it was like in a safe sped. where I was like around close friends and it was just like a conversation and they were like, wait, do you think Kokomo is actually real? And I was like, I just would like to pitch to you, Rob, that I feel like it's profoundly confusing. Whoever wrote the song, fucking Mike Love, whoever wrote it, to say Aruba and Jamaica and like, name all of the islands, which I all know because they're all gocomo and then hit you with a fictional one. What is child me who loves a song supposed to think? Why would I not think?

Or are you going to put me in the category of Clementsell in terms of geopolitical awareness that I thought Kokomo might be a tiny island off the Florida Keys? You know what I mean? Who among us has not had these moments? I just like to think of the idea of you in deep pandemic mode thinking like, okay, where's the first place I want to go on vacation when all the world comes back and you're like, oh, I want to go to this fictional island that I don't even know yet is fictional. Steve, our producer did point out in our chat.

And don't worry, I looked this up when. And I got into this argue with my friends when they were like, Cocoa's not real. And I was like, it is real. Anyway, there's a Kokomo in Indiana, and I can just certainly tell you that that is not what the beach boys we're singing about. There is technically a Kokomo. It's in Indiana. But it is not the island of our dreams.

And I like your point about, like, that he's pitching him on a fake, you know, these are fake promises. Clement Mansell, for all of his, like, oh, God, what is Norbert call him? Oklahoma Fatback, which is just, you know, it's a pig term, whatever. For all his sort of like redneck kind of tendencies or whatever, I like that he is inviting sweetie and his boyfriend. He's like, you and your boyfriend should come with us. Come along.

Progressive psychopath is Clement Cells. So there you go. And I do love Sandy's reaction of Jesus. Jesus of Christ. And she smokes some weed and we hear Kokomo swell. That I thought was an interesting moment because it's like, okay, when Sandy says Jesus of Christ, You probably should cut there,

but they let the scene ride and they keep singing and they keep dancing. I'm like, okay, this is dragging on a little bit too long. But the tradeoff for that is that the transition to Raylan and really to Raylan and Carolyn lines up very nicely, very conspicuously, with the killer second verse of Kokomo, the we'll put out to sea and we'll perfect our chemistry bit.

I take your Kokomo love seriously. for me, it is a song where the chorus has always been incredibly obnoxious, but the verses are actually like really smooth and people gloss over them. I don't think it's the worst thing in the world to pair the best part of the song with the best part of the show so far. And that brings this to the best part of the show. I love your appreciation for the poetry, the lyricism of Kokomo. And I just want you to know that my fondness for Kokomo is like I was a small child

when I fell in love with Kokomo. I am not saying that it is a good song, that it is a good example. of the Beach Boys repertoire because it's not. It's like a post Brian Wilson Beach Boys song. Or that it's, you know, people call it a novelty song. I could not disagree with you. You know what I mean? We're in the like Uncle Jesse John Stamos eras of Beach Boys and like I can't properly

defend it, but it's, it worked, it earwormed its way into my heart as a child and that's where it has stayed. Well, and since we have watched this episode, it is earwormed its way into my brain and it's just playing on loop. So there is something undeniable about it. About Cocoa. All right, before we get to Raylan fondly looking at photos of his daughter, which is all we get of Willa in this episode.

Did she get a credit for that? Did she get a check for that? For just her photo on the phone. Back to the Givens family, perhaps. I do want to, we have to go back because Raylan comes into sort of like Warren Carolyn, and I just want to flag two things. You mentioned Tyrone's got his feet up on the desk, and she says, sir, please. Love that.

Railway walks in. He takes his hat off when he walks into Carolyn's office. He means business when the hat's off. It's a very gentlemanly thing to do, and it is not always what Raylan does when he wants. He doesn't do it every time he walks inside. He'll take it off again at the end of the episode. So he takes off, it's like a very ma'am sort of thing, took his hat off, stood waiting for her hat and hand, literal hat and literal hand waiting for her to come out, talk to him.

And then they have their whole conversation, and what she do, she gets up, walks around the desk. Yes, she does, Joe. right next to him as they're talking. How did you feel, Rob, about all that? So I was kind of mixed because there's some dialogue in that exchange. In particular, this line from Raylan where he says, all I want is for Mansell to not do you any harm, and I'm afraid he might.

Yeah. To be frank, feels like a little flat by justified standards. Correct, correct. But at the same time that is happening, you get a shot of Raylan and Carolyn in profile with Anjuneo Ellis, as you mentioned, sidled up. on the desk next to Timothy Oliphant. And that framing and that shot does things that no script ever could, to be honest with you.

And so, like, it is almost overcoming some of, like, the not quite up to justified par exchanges in that scene. You're saying they've already perfected their chemistry in the words of Kokomo. And the line readings don't matter. It's just these two are vibing on a different level. I agree because, like, what, like, we go out on something kind of, you know, shooting from the hip is sort of like, the line we go out on this episode. And I'm like, we could have probably done a little bit better. I will say Tim's delivery of, I've been here week, and I've seen some things that's

certainly given me pause. It was like a very, just like putting pepper on the line delivery from Tim Oliphant. But I cannot disagree with you about I'm missing some of that verse of kokemo flavor to the language here and there. And we get a little bit of it later. Like, again, with them and in some other exchanges, it's not like it's not in the show. It's just for a moment like that

that could have been a signature moment of this series so far, and honestly, kind of was a signature moment of the series so far, just with the framing and the physical chemistry and their proximity in spite of everything else. Just a little bit of a missed opportunity, that's all. I would argue that when we see Raylan come up to the Albanians who were tailing Carolyn's, Carolyn calls him,

she's getting tailed. Very smart move on her part. She just pulls over, waits for Realand to come in, take care of these guys who are following her, who she clocks right away in the parking garage. You know, you mentioned the shake-up and personnel sort of thing. Like, Realin's got a little, a little, you know, some spice going on here, checking with the boss,

doing it just like grinning and smirking and smiling and just cool as a kuk in his $1,200 bespoke hat. I just, I love watching Raylan work. They have their argument about like whether or not she should have someone sit at their house, all the sort of stuff like that. He says, take it up with the judge. How much is this real and how much is this, in your opinion? How much of this is real? You know, he says like you're an important asset in this case, all those sort of stuff like you need to be protected.

How much is that real or how much is that Raylan has a little crush or whatever you want to think? What do you think, Rob? I think it's a little between. the two. This is not strike me as official police business. No one has told anyone that someone needs to be stationed outside Carolyn's house, but Rowland has taken it upon himself.

That leads to some really good scenes. Is it a good idea? I don't know. And this is coming a little bit off of the justified rewatch where, let me tell you, dear listener, the number of times, Raylan has compromised an investigation or a trial by falling into bed

with a key witness or a victim or just whatever woman happened to be standing nearby isn't alarming. And I know I said all those things about Raylan having evolved since the original justified, but this is the real test. What is going to happen here

and is it actually a good idea? This is what I wrote bolded and underlined in my notes. The look Raylan gives when a bad idea gets into the car. I rewound that look like four or five different times. Again, it's a very subtle move, but he's just kind of shaking his head

and smiling to himself because he's like, this is a terrible idea. Here we go. But I can't help myself. I'm railing. So, yeah, so she walks up to the car. Look here is what she says, right? She's got a bottle of bourbon.

We're going to do bourbon corner. Sadly, not Pappy Van Winkle. Well, I have a comeback to that. Okay, so do you have any thoughts or feelings about bourbon personally, Rob? Not the drink for me. I'm not a brown liquor guy in general. So this whole world to me is more like, you know, I get the aesthetic as part of a show.

like this. Like, it adds to the character, but I can't stand like thinking, oh, man, I would really love, I really love that glass railing is holding right now. If a client were to give you, and we don't have clients in the podcasting world, as far as I know, but if a client were to give you a bottle of something, what would, like, earn the most points with you? What would, what would you want a fancy bottle of what? I'm in a good bottle of wine. Or honestly, like, see, this is, this is where it gets offensive is like, if they give me a good bottle of something, it's more likely to end up in a pasta sauce or a dish than it is for me to actually drink it. So I want like the mid-level, this is nice enough to cook with, but not so nice, it would be insulting to cook

with. That's what I'm, that's the sweet spot for me. Okay. All right. I feel like I just learned a lot about you. That was a very California answer. Thank you. I also don't drink brown liquor. I hate whiskey. I hate bourbon. I think it tastes disgusting. But here we are in Burbin Corner, so here are some things I learned. What is your drink of choice since you brought it? Other than we've as we discussed on previous podcasts, a past version of Joe was crush in Malibu. What is present tense, Joe drinking? I regret ever telling you that.

I feel like everything I've ever told you, like my fondness for Kokomo or enjoying Malibu, all paints the incorrect picture of me. I like tequila. Tequila is my beverage of choice. Amanda and Sean just did that movie star liquor taste-taste-us thing over on the big pick, right? Incredible.

Incredible. content. They, I asked them before that aired sort of what they thought about my favorite liquor of all times. And Amanda said it went really low on their list, but I, because they started with it. And it was the Casamigos, George Clooney's tequila. Yeah. Reposato. That is my number one tequila. Again, I think this paints a bad picture of me because it makes it sound like I like it because it's Clooney. I liked it before I knew it was Clooney's Tequila, I should say. I've tried to like other, quote unquote, better tequila's to get off the, like, stigma of liking Randy Gerber and George Clooney's bucket tequila, but I am who I am. So here we are.

Cassonegos. That brings us back to bourbon. This bottle, very distinctive, so I was able to figure out what it was around, like sort of bulbous bottle with a, it's got like a little metal pony on the top. It is, of course, from Kentucky. It is Blanton's single barrel bourbon, and it is about $150 to $200 a bottle thereabouts. Yes, definitely the single barrel based on the coloring and stuff like that, okay? That's a good gift for a defense attorney. Yeah, and it's very Kentucky, 1980, it started like 1984 is when Blanton started producing, all of this sort of stuff.

Also, I learned a lot about why Kentucky produces 95% of the world supply of bourbon. It has to do with the weather, corn, limestones, like a whole bunch of stuff. Okay? But I was like, well, how does this compare to the Pappy Van Winkle, right? How good is this compared to, like, the bottle that Art would crack open in his office? Zooming in on the bottle that Art used to use because there's a bunch of different vintages of Pappy Van Winkle. There's one called Rip Van Winkle that goes for like $5,000 and $10,000. Damn.

RIP, my bank account. Art on the original series Justified drank the Pappy Van Winkle 20 year. And that's about 119 a bottle. So it is less expensive. Yeah. We're in the ballpark, though. We're in the ballpark. This is celebratory bourbon.

It's commiserate. So they crack this bottle in the car. It's a bad idea. Bad, bad, bad idea, right? Seems like a bad idea. Seems like a bad idea. But in Bourbon Corner, while we're here. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Are you familiar with Blanton's previous appearance, Injustified? No. Okay. Season five. Yeah? Amy Smart is on the show playing Alison Brander, a social worker who, again, Raylan should not be dating, but is. That's maybe his worst of all of his bad ones.

Pretty agree. Is it the worst, yeah. There's a subplot where, I mean, to make a long story short, the Crow family gets Allison suspended from her job and sent home for a few weeks. And Allison tells Raylan that her friends, are going to take her out to try to cheer her up. And Raylan's response to that is, how about I just come over with a bottle of Blanton's and cheer you up the old-fashioned way?

Oh. And so when he, his response to Carolyn in this moment of like, oh, I thought you might be into this. And he says it's basically perfect. I mean, it's very interesting, given the context. Very interesting. Oh, my God. Thank you for your contribution to Bourbon Corner.

I can always rely on you, Rob, to break the context. All right, so she says some great stuff to him. Like, where's your daughter? Do you lock her up in her room so you can skulk around the hood? She tries to set some boundaries here. But here's my question to you. Here's the million dollar question. The million dollar bottle of Rip Van Winkle question.

Does Rayleigh given spend the night in that car? Or is he spending the night in Carolyn's? Beautiful and decorated house. Yeah. I think he's going to stay in the car. Okay. I think this is... Because he's matured?

He is a better man than he was. I'm putting a lot of faith in Raylan when I really should not. I feel like one of those women now who really should know better. And eventually, after like a week, figures out exactly who he is. I'm a little worried. To her credit, I do think that Carolyn knows. No matter what happens, I think she knows exactly who Raylan Givens is. Totally.

To the bottle of bourbon. Totally. You know what I mean? She's got him clocked pretty well and really has since the first time she saw him. Yeah. So you're saying in the car? I think he stays in the car. Alone in the car?

On this night stays alone in the car. Future nights, look, anything is possible. I think he's going in. Oh, Raylan, don't do it. She says, so you're just going to stay out here all night by yourself? It's like, oh, I'm not by myself now, right? Free, unencumbered. Shoot from the hip.

Something like that. I think he's going in. That's what I'd say. But we will find out next time on Justify, anything else you want to say about this episode, Cochamo? I just don't think there's enough we can say about, as you mentioned, the smirk that Raylan gives as Carolyn makes her way around the car.

Like, that is a little slice of heaven, and goddamn Tim Aliphon is good. He's so good. And she's great. Yeah. Give us more of them together, please. And it seems like the show will. So thank you so much.

show in advance. That does it for us on the Prestige TV Recaps of City Primeval. We should. If all goes according to plan, and I believe it will, be back next week with episode five. And as I mentioned,

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