The Prestige TV Podcast - ‘Task’ Series Premiere: HBO Sundays Are Back!

Episode Date: September 8, 2025

Bill Simmons, Joanna Robinson, and Rob Mahoney break out the binoculars to recap the series premiere of ‘Task,’ the brand-new HBO miniseries starring Mark Ruffalo. (0:00) Intro (12:17) Mark Ruffalo’s career (20:16) The members of the task force (30:32) Beat-by-beat episode recap (45:11) Predictions for Episode 2 (47:28) Will ‘Task’ become a phenomenon? Email us! [e-mail] Subscribe to the Ringer TV YouTube channel here for full episodes of ‘The Prestige TV Podcast’ and so much more! Hosts: Bill Simmons, Joanna Robinson, and Rob Mahoney Producers: Kai Grady and Donnie Beacham Jr. Additional Production Support: Justin Sayles Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, welcome back to the Prestige TV podcast feed. I'm Deweather Robinson. I'm Rob Mahoney. And it's been a little spotty this summer in terms of content. Bleak, I would say. But we're back. We're back, baby. We've got a lot going on in the prestige feed.

We've got our mini-series hooked that we're doing. Or we're going through some of our very favorite shows of all time, Breaking Bad, Mad Men. We've got a couple more shows on the horizon. We're really excited about. What else are we doing, Rob? Today, we're covering task. Yes.

Very exciting. To actually have good TV, good prestige TV, dare I say, back in our midst. We're going to be doing task week to week and then slow horses at the end of September. It's just a really good time to be on the prestige feed. We're really excited. Bill's joining us for tasks today. It's going to be a good time. This message is brought to you by Apple Pay.

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Yeah, laugh a lot of time. Yeah. What's Up Chicken Butthole made me laugh louder than I would honestly care to admit in any other context, but here we are. Joanna Robinson right there, Rob Mahoney, right? here on Bill Simmons. What was the last time we convened? It's been a minute for the three of us. It's been last year, right? Oh, no, your friends and neighbors.

Over Zoom. Oh, yeah, over Zoom. Not in person. No. Well, HBO, I mean, on the bright side, we have a show like this again. On the downside, could have it like six weeks ago. We really could have. No sports and nothing going on. It was a tough summer. Yeah. Maybe don't drop this during a week one football season. That was Joe Mee was complaining about that beforehand. But I, I'm just glad we have a show like this again. It's only seven episodes? Yeah. Brad Inglesby.

I don't know. Where do you want to start? This is one of the best pilots I've seen, or first episodes I've seen maybe since the pit at the beginning of the year. Yeah. I would say, just in terms of putting us in the world, giving us characters that we care about, there's a lot in this episode. It's only 66 minutes, but there's just a bunch of short scenes. I mean, you just feel like you've

learned a lot. We go through two B&Es, you know, a character I already cared about has already spoiler alert died, you know? So like, it's just a lot going on. The moment he announced his impending nuptials, that guy was cooked. But I didn't know I was going to be episode one, no. That is fair.

Also, for you, Joe, what was the We Are So Back moment? This has been a slow summer for TV, as Bill said. When did you feel like, okay, we got it? This episode is brought to you by Borris Head. What if we told you the taste of deep fried turkey is now available at your local deli? Well, Boris Head just did that. Bursting with flavor, perfectly seasoned with that indulgent taste that usually means pointing your whole day around it, presenting the Friars turkey breast only from Borshead.

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I was just like, this is, I could watch this scene all day. That was it for me. What about you, Bill? So I had my guard up the whole time because I was like, this is really good. This is really good. And then when Ruffalo was with the priest and he was super drunk singing the rock song, doing Silly's trivia. No, no, dude.

And I was like, I'm in. You got me. I'm giving myself to this show. But all actors I like, I didn't even recognize the, oh, man, I'm blanking on the Oscar movie, Coda. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. I even recognized.

Amelia Jones, yeah. Amelia Jones. Like Mary Beestown, there's a lot of Brits here doing Delco accent. Well, Tom Pelfrey, who had an unbelievable Ozark season. Oh, my God. And was one of those where you thought, man, after this season, he's going to be a major, major star, and it didn't quite happen, but maybe it'll happen now. He did like out of range, but I've been waiting for something to really, really show him off.

And I think this is going to do it. It already is for sure. And that character has to work for this show to really hit high highs. Like we're going to be in on Mark Ruffalo leading a task force, solving a crime. Great. I would be in just on, as you're saying, Joe, like the domestic drama version of just his home life with his, like, brothers' kid and his own kids and like their tangled web. Like, I'm in on that stuff taking away the crime elements. Well, they're doing this.

So have you gone ahead or no? No. Have you? No. Have you? Have you? I have not. I haven't. And my wife was furious.

She does it every time. They'll never know. Just do it. I'm like, oh, no. The audience will know. No, I wrote down a bunch of speculation questions, and I was like, it won't be fun to ask these questions if I already know the answer. It's true.

It feels like we're setting up for Ruffalo's going this way. Pelfrey's going this way. We're doing heat. We're doing heat. We're doing heat. And Engelsby has said, I'm doing heat. And so he's not pretending. And so I would be deeply surprised if our guy Robbie makes it out of this season of television alive.

And the fact that I already know that and I'm willing to be deeply invested anyway is, I think, a testament to what Brad can do. They're running in a small airport. It's just cash flying everywhere. planes fly over them. One can only hope. Very possible. We left out one other actor who I like from a show that, I don't know how many people saw, but looking that was on HBO.

Oh, I loved it. Yeah. Robbie the barber guy. Exactly. That was one of my wife's favorite shows. I love looking. And that was the guy. He got involved with the Jonathan Groff character. I was like that guy.

And I don't know what happened to him. And now he's back as one of the robbers. I think he does a lot of theater. Like stage. Does some theater. He's popped up in this and that. He was in like, Chachaw real smooth. He's, again, smaller.

parts, but he's another character who, based on his character and looking, if you put anyone in his orbit, I'm kind of rooting for them just on proximity. And so, like, I am totally bought in on the Pelfrey character already just because of their friendship and their relationship. And, you know, there will be any history now. So there wasn't a lot of press about this show yet because I think they're embargoed it and it's coming. We're taping this at a time.

Inglesby said to EW, which was the only big feature I read so far, he said, the people that you know in life are essentially invisible. Every day your mailman drives through your neighborhood. He knows your bills and magazines and the trash men know what you're eating, your Amazon boxes. And that resonated. So he's gone for, I'm going deep, everyday people. Yeah. And then shit's going to go down. And there's that great line when Cliff is in the one last job that they do when he's, when they're first scoping out, he's like, that guy was looking right at me. Robbie's like,

no, he's looking right through you. Like everyone does, right? No one ever sees us. And turns out it wasn't the case this time. Well,

then they really, what's that? Like the second scene there together, they're doing like the Pulp Fiction talking about what burgers are like in France

kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like, I like these guys. How do you get? What do you do with your trash pickup on a private island,

you know? Yeah. I have many questions about the trash boats. And also, Robbie has this like deeply, again, this reminds me of

De Niro and heat, but like this deeply romantic figure talking about wanting to share his life with someone when he gets on the dating apps and he's like, I believe people come into our life for a reason. Well, he almost says it. But he was, he might have hit send on that. You don't know.

It's a fair point. We don't know. But like that's so important. Give him something, in addition to his kids, but something like romantic to care about. And then. Fake name and the dating app is one of the things we're there. Apparently. Yeah.

If you don't want somebody to Google you because things are going to come up. It's still Bimmons, right? Fake names. Classic Sylvanman. You're Googling one of these dudes are like, oh, my lord. I didn't realize he robbed a bank. These guys have not heard about Google reverse image searching yet. This is a solvable problem, unfortunately.

That's episode two. Rob comes in, explains stuff too. I'm the IT professional here to help. So the first three minutes of this show, I think are one of the best first three minutes of a show I can remember. It's got the pounding score already. We're just seeing all these people, all these characters that we're going to have. It's moving. and you know what the show is,

which I think is so hard to pull off. I watched a bunch of times. I was like, God damn. It's just really good. It ends with like Ruffalo puts his little ID thing for his job on his desk. The brochures. The Hershey Kisses in the bowl.

You just know he's like, oh, this is a guy who clearly peaked 10 years ago. Now he's kind of here. And you just get a feel for everything. It's just really, in In Inlesby, he did Maryvue's Town, which we should have mentioned earlier, but it just is good at shows like this. Yeah.

There was a lot of waking up weary scenes in Merrives town that was like a classic hallmark. I was curious what you guys think of Jeremiah Zager who directed this and he also did the Samler the Hustle basketball movie. Oh, you're right.

And so I was just wondering like if visually there was anything that reminded you of that? I mean the Allen Iverson drop, you know? You got your obligatory mention to Philly Hoops. But other than that, like I was trying to figure out all that common thread. Because yeah, there is like some of the performers

have been in both of their projects, both of those guys pop up. I think the relationship clearly works between writing and directing at a super high level, establishing all that weariness. I think it lends itself to Inglesby in particular does a lot of real people, for lack of a better way to describe it,

who are down on their luck, who are just trying to make it, who are like on the edge of decency, but also like trying to find something for themselves. And this is exactly that kind of story, yet again, I think on both corners, to be honest with you. He loves a grown-out, a grown-out bleach job. Like, if you've got a lot of roots in your bleached hair, you're going through it.

What's his just trying to make it better than that? Exactly. Well, we talk about this sometimes when we do the rewatchables movies from the 70s and 80s, and just this whole heroin movies were about, I don't want to say normal people, but just everyday people. And that shifted for a lot of reasons. But the kind of people that we have in this movie easily could have been in this TV show, easily could have been in a movie in like 1978

where it's just like a two-hour whatever. Something that really unlocked for me and I had written it in my notes, but I wasn't sure if it was just like a Joanna thing, but I was listening to an interview that Inglesby did with Roger Deacons where he was talking about like the movies that got him

into movies and he was like number one breaking away, which is my number one sports movie. The quarry shot. I was like, oh, we're doing cutters and he was talking about how like in watching breaking away as a kid, he's like, how did this film capture what it was like for me and my friends? What are these walk-and-talk scenes?

These just, like, ambling around, rolling our bikes around downtown, like, Indiana sort of thing. And so these scenes, we're just sharing sandwiches together and we're just having a conversation together. And it's so important to get us invested in these characters before we run into the airport. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. children. Yeah. But there's something like so like primordial about that. Like I'm a man who's never been on a quarry before.

You know, like this is not a personal experience I have. And there's clearly like a level of specificity to the show that for like Chris and Andy will hit in a totally different register than it will for me. But there's something about the just sort of like freewheeling nature of that moment. It's like this is summer. This is like a level of freedom and a level of success and a level of like I'm just taking my mind off of anything that's happening in my life that is so easy to connect to.

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What is my, we were just talking about. You can count on me when we did the 2000 draft. So good. Big Pick draft. That's my introduction to Mark Ruffalo and I think it's one of the best things ever seen. I love this guy so much and he was sort of in not MCU jail because he played because they couldn't make a Hulk movie.

Yeah, they legally couldn't make a Hulk movie. So he was not locked into I'm making Hulk movie after Hulk movie. So he's got his global fame because he is the Hulk. But then he also just picks extremely interesting side projects. He's doing your spotlights. He's doing the kids are all right. He's doing whatever it is. And, you know, Ingleby, the reason Inglesby got Mary Beastown made was that he made the pitch to Kate Winslet.

Yeah. And the first thing he did on this was he made the pitch to Mark Ruffalo. His move is get the star on and then everything will flow from there. And so I love that Ruffalo wanted to do this and get really into this deeply broken, bad dad. But he's good at that, you know? Yeah, he is. I mean, we've had him 25 years now.

Wow. I'll save some of my thoughts for the you can count on me rewatchables because we haven't done that on Ruffalo. Because I love that movie. It's a perfect movie. I honestly love that movie. Bleak week on the rewatchables. Well, totally.

I mean, I don't know. Challow week. It's interesting to think about his career. in the 21st century context versus the 20th century context because so he hits in that movie and then he does some really cool interesting like he did this movie called xxxxy that I really liked and I thought it was just weird and cool and really different it's just gone I don't even know you don't even find that on streaming at this point but then he was also like everyone was saying this is the next guy this is the next big thing so then you kind of have to go down the rom-com side

you got to go on the superhero side and he's he's kind of straddling the 13 going on 30 years I always felt like he just wanted to do things like this like this part in this show yeah exactly but then was paying the bills with the other side but that's also what Hollywood wants

they're just pushing you to this other side and I don't know he straddled it both but then you see him in something like spotlight like guys a great actor but then he's seen in crappy rom-com number four and it's like why is he in this Well, he's not doing those anymore. And I think he's not.

I think he found his lane with Hulk because he's in the new Avengers movies. He's going to be filming in his little, like, mocap suit for the new Avengers movies, right? But that's kind of light work compared to I have to do a whole rom-com. I get to do, I don't know, 15 minutes in Avengers, you know, doomsay or whatever it is. So like, and then I can do this. He took, like, Ed Norton in the 90s and then he kind of passed the torch to Ruffalo as like the next guy to just. to just be in weird movies. Like, Ruffalo easily could have been in 25th hour.

Yes. If it was like five years later. But Norton, there were movies he never would have done that I feel like Ruffalo a couple times kind of caved on. I think that's probably true. I mean, their presences are a little different. Like, Edward Norton's version of charisma is a little harder edged even still. Yeah.

Or frenetic. That makes it really effective when he's like the world where he'd beaten down by his circumstances kind of guy in all of these dramas. And so it's like, I can understand a producer or director saying, let's put that guy opposite a Hollywood starlet of some kind in a rock com. I get the formula and I get how we kind of are still in that space. And it's what makes him so good on the dramatic side too, ultimately. XXXY, he has some college girlfriend.

All of them kind of intersected at one point. And then they go, like goes like fast forward, like maybe six, seven years. And he's with somebody else but runs into the, the old girlfriend. And then all of a sudden they may or may not have had sex in the kitchen

when the new girlfriend walked in. And it just gets fucking weird. It's like, there's like, it should be a special channel for movies like this

like fucked up kind of sexual. Oh yeah. You're like, romance gone wrong. You're like, indie. Nobody's making a lot of money.

Yeah. Yeah. All that kind of just weird. There is a channel that's called the ringer. com. It's basically all we do here. I feel like you should do a

miniseries for it's called like Unfindables. And it's like the movies You literally cannot find it anymore, but do exist. You had to buy for 1799 on YouTube or something like that. But it's interesting, you can count on me is probably, I think, what people would say was his best performance. And that was the first one. Yeah.

But I think he got nominated for that. I mean, Spotlight may have transcended it in terms of, like, cultural footprint at this point, just like a more recent audience. Why is that? Because they knew! And they did nothing. Yeah. Nominated for the kids are all right. Yeah.

his, you know, strange accent choices and poor things. That's another, that would be in that weird channel. He's so great in poor things. That's the thing. Like, he can be a ham. Like, we love the Brothers Bloom to, like, he's so good and so charismatic in that. And you need all of that if you're going to have drunk Ruffalo, hard-boiled Ruffalo, leading the task force Ruffalo.

Like, he's going to have to be all of these versions of himself. But this, to go back to you talking about watching the opening multiple times, this episode, we've all watched a couple times at least, really rewards the reward. the rewatch because once you learn about the fact that he, you know, studied and became a priest for a while, we get the scene later with his friend where he's talking about his lack of faith and how he doesn't give a shit anymore. And then you rewatch the opening where he is like reluctantly, but kneeling down to pray when he gets up, you know? And it's just sort of like that's, I miss that one the first. Yeah. Like, well, I was like, why is this such an, an onerous task for him?

And then you find out his whole history and you watch it again. And it's just sort of like this guy is just bird watching his way through life. Did you have baggage with what you knew about the show before you watched it or do you watch a blind? Which what baggage would be holding me back? Well, I didn't know anything. Yeah. So I thought when that, especially when we had the home invasion pretty early, I'm like,

oh yeah, home invasion time. And that scene fucking rips. The first home invasion especially is just like so tight, so kinetic. And the mast designs are really good. Are you more demon, were wolf for Skull Guy? A skull guy all the way. I always thought you were a skull guy. What's Hall of Fame all-time masks for you though?

Point break. I mean, point breaks. The presidents are right up there. The town is pretty good. Like, it kind of falls out of the cracks. The nuns in the town? Yeah, they're like, nuns. Because you want to cover, like, from here down.

Yes. If you move around. I got to say, when our guy Cliff, when both of them took their masks off before they were out of that house, I was like, don't do that. Don't do it. Don't do that, man. But I also needed the relief of knowing that Cliff was not the one who got shot. You know?

Like I needed that as a guru personally That's why they did it I appreciate it So the kid could like ID them That's really it But the first watch I thought it was gonna be more violent

And then when we're in the kitchen With him just singing to the priest And I'm like all right All bets are off I don't know where this is going Like that second episode There might be no violence at all Maybe

It might be them just playing back aiming With a 10 year old kid I don't know Just a babysitting show Were you So they tried to build tension At the end of the episode Of like

Did they kill the kid or not. Was there a minute where you thought that might be what the show was? Well, we should talk about that because that was the best moment in the show

because I thought they were going to kill the kid. Yeah, I thought it was possible. It's clear like something is going to escalate the stage. And it was like, oh my, they're going to fucking kill the kid? The relay of calls, you know,

four dead bodies. And then actually there was a kid in the house, you know, and we're on Tenderhooks. But I just thought the echo, like the fact that the episode opens with Robbie carrying his son, you know, to his sister's bed in the morning and all of that.

And then ends with him carrying this kid in. Great idea, guys. Bring the kid home. This is going to be fine. So you got some different thoughts on parenthood is the theme. Sure. Religion, I think, is going to be a big piece of the show. Yeah.

Absolutely. Family and community. Yeah, but we're, there's going to be something about faith that I think is looming. That would be my only guess. Yeah. I think they laid some groundwork for that. Well, we also don't really know exactly what's happened with Reflo's character's son as of yet. I have...

What's your hunch? Your hunch is a flashback, isn't it? Oh, well, yeah, because... Little CGII. Ruffalo, seven years early. They cast Murray, you know, from The Killing as his wife. Like, she's in the family photo. Yes. So we're definitely at least getting some...

The lead from the killing? Yeah, yeah, the Redhead from the Killing. Wow. Yeah. So she's... What's she been up to? Waiting for her moment to be in a photo in an age of. In that photo, so it's the old family photo,

classic little transporter device for a show like this. We get Ruffalo's character, Tom. We get ostensibly his wife. We get the daughter we know Emily. And presumably her brother, who we know is in prison, but we don't know why. And then another young girl who could be a friend, who could be another sibling. Do we know who that is? So this is what I think.

We've got, he was a priest. She was a girl. This is going to be any more obvious. Some sort of missionary trip. I believe Emily, the daughter, we have spent some. time with who's working at the water ice place and the son who's in prison were adopted. Yes. And then there's like a biological third older daughter.

Who's out of the house? Who's just not around right now? Exactly. But something bad happened that made him stop being a priest. Because there was some sort of catalyst for that too that we left the priesthood and won't even visit his son in prison. So something's looming with that. The paperwork that he looks at when he looks at when he's.

he's in the meeting with the lawyer, third degree, murder in the third degree, would not take his medication, had voices telling him to kill, assault to the spouse. So I believe the son killed his wife, and that's what he's in jail for. But due to a psychotic break. And if these were adopted kids, there might be this tension that Emily feels in terms of, like, do you regret adopting us if my, you know, if my brother killed our mom or something like that. If that is what happened, Ruffalo's in great shape. Like that's a lot to go through. And this is only, I don't think it's, we don't get the impression it's that much later if sentencing

is still happening. Exactly. So I think he left the priesthood, because Inglesby did say in an interview that he's, I think it was his uncle who was a priest and then left the priesthood or something like that, but he was like interested in in this strain of FBI agent who used to be priests. What made you leave the priesthood and become an FBI agent? So we don't know what that decision was, but then it seems like an even more recent horror. And once again, this is just me doing my best freeze frame Mahoney impression and looking at legal documents. If we think the kid, the murder kid, if your theory is correct.

Classic murder kid. Yeah. the forgot to take the meds excuse opens the door for forgiveness in the heart because it wasn't totally your fault. He didn't seem ready to forgive. Leading to a big scene with a glass window in the trailer. And now that I'm on my meds,

I understand what I did. A classic trope. It is a classic trope. If you refuse to visit the kid in the first episode, it means you have to like agree to visit the kid before the finale. It's true. Midseason.

You got to come back. If we don't have one conversation with phones through glass, like, what are we even doing here? I mean, in so many ways to go, you could just whip the drink at the glass, you could spit at the glass. The Phillies cup? You could pound the glass. I am glad this is one of those things that transcends all regional specificity.

The like oversized plastic cup from a ballgame that's then used to just guzzle alcohol is really an American tradition that has no equal. I'm impressed that he's still mixing it. He's still squeezing the lines. With his finger though. Still, but he's still like going into the trouble to squeeze the lines. I got to say, Tom Pelfrey. exceptional actor incredible presence on this show.

Him, double-fingering ice cream out of the out of the vat from the freezer is one of the most deeply upsetting things we're going to see on television this year. Did you recognize him? Just in the show? Like, I didn't make the Ozark guy connection. Oh.

And then I was like, Tom Pelfrey, Tom Pelfrey. That one, he was billed highly enough as being part of the show. I just forgot. I watched it during COVID. I don't remember two years of COVID. So good on that. Just all blank slate. I'm glad Mallory isn't here for whatever that was that you just did with the ice cream gesture. That's what happened on the show.

Should we talk about Martha Plumpton? I have a question for you, Bill. If you were to call me into your office and I brought you a lovely bag of garden-grown tomatoes, would you cherish that gift from me or would you just drop them on the ground? I would cherish it. But I see Martha Plumpton. and it's just like all bets are off because she's been going for I will steal every scene I'm in status for about six years here she's fantastic she's she's carrying the mayor of east town torch

into this show really she's coming in hot yeah so we know she's the surly police chief and we know that there's going to be more to come on her way out too you know yeah nothing to lose retirement yeah that's it if you could mix that plot in with uh wasn't quite on the meds yes but now's on the, like, we just merge those two plus. She knows the family. She's asked about Emily, so she's close enough to the family to know. That's true. Do you want to talk about the three

younger members of the task force? Let's place. So that was my biggest question about the show if I had to nitpick anything. Okay. Too many characters? I didn't love the three characters. I didn't really understand what they were going for. I thought it just, they were trying to make it too quirky.

And I thought that that was the weakest scene. Okay. I thought they were just trying too hard with this. The intro scene, but not those. And it was just like, do I spell mold? And I was like, all right. I really like her. And I like her being Lizzie.

Lizzie. Yeah. State Trooper. Lizzie. Sure. And I like this sort of, she's the one who bothered to talk to the neighbor's moment that she has at the end of the episode. Didn't read the file, though. No.

Didn't do her homework. Maybe it got Conner Spanfold. You don't know. But I got a shout on my guy, Fabian Frankl, Sir Kristen Cole from House of the Dragon. here as a show I never watch I don't know who that is Is he in the Mavericks? Honestly, Kristen Cole, great big

great potential, high reach Anthony Grasso Yeah Love this I'm really excited for this So just deep Joe cuts right here Yeah Oh yeah

Yeah, yeah So Kristen Cole I will say as far as you know I'll laugh a minute show like task Lizzie on the phone to What I assume is her soon to be ex-husband Saying is that what you're doing Like crawling around my place

Writing your name on my stuff you little raccoon fuck. Yeah. Look, it's just good writing. But when she exits the scene later and she's like, I've changed my mind. I'm keeping the recliner. That stuff was pretty broad, though. I will say, like, the three characters, like, we need to very quickly establish who they are in relation to each other.

And like, okay, here's the clean freak. Here's the girl who's kind of a hot mess and trying to get her life together. Here's the guy who's like a little bit down the middle, but we're trying to still figure him out. It is the broadest part of the show, especially when you contrast it to the slow play of everything that's happening with. Roughlo and Pelfrey too. Did you get hooked into watching Saltburn the year it came out? I did not. The movie?

Yeah. It was big in my house. I only watched it once. So the actress who's playing the state trooper is like the sister in Saltburn. And she had a lot to do in that movie. This is a very different part for her. But she is actually always Hot Mess Express. This is just a more American version.

I would have potentially not even introduced those characters. Now I'm giving Brad Engels me notes. But I would have, it was 60. six minutes. If you were going to cut a scene and move it to episode two, I probably would have done that. That's fair.

I'm not sure we needed them. I was really enjoying the two worlds that we're kind of going to get some massive forward from. We've got a hold to fill because Peach Boy is no longer with us. No. And it's going to take three whole characters to fill his shoes.

So I think the contrast of that of if we did just do the version of the pilot that's just centered around the two guys on opposite sides of the law, the way it's sort of like slow playing the introductions of them. And in particular, I'll say with Robbie where it's like, you see them as,

garbage men. It's like, are they garbage men? Are they PI's? Are they undercover cops? Like, why are they sifting through all the trash at these drug houses? It's like the way that's all slowly pieced together as you're meeting his family, as you're getting a sense of these relationships. And I think the pull the rug aspect with that character in particular from this isn't just like a nice, well-meaning single dad trying to do the best he can. He is the freeloading brother of a dead man living in his

brother's kid's house, like snooping her stealing her weed out of her drawer. I think the way that they deploy all that stuff is so smart. Amelia Jones' character is like third build in this show. And I was curious why, but now knowing that there's going to be another kid in the house that they stole from and she's going to have this tension of like, am I complicit in this? Do I take care of this kid? Do I have suspicions about where this kid came from? What do I do?

So, yeah, I thought she was really good. Amelia Jones as this is as the niece. Good actress. Yeah. Considering I didn't even recognize it. She transformed. It's the micro bangs. They'll get you every time.

All kinds of stuff happening. We should mention this is the second most important TV pot on the ringer recapping this because this is set in the Philly area. This is like fucking crack cocaine for Greenwater and Chris. Absolutely.

Unbelievable. It's like Brad made it for them. Seriously. It's like trying to fuck with them. There's a scene at Bad Brothers. What's Chris's bar? I think that's what it's called. There's a scene.

scene in that bar, I'm going to go nuts. Then we'll know he's like deliberately antagonizing me in some way. All right, let's go through the episode really quick. So we get all the setup. We get the two seemingly not bad, likable guys talking about their love lives while they kind of stalk a house grabbing stuff out of garbage. One of them is a criminal of the heart of gold putting his kids to bed. She's a nice guy. They both have pretty goldy hearts. Other guy just wants to meet somebody. Gold adjacent? Gold until it comes time to just like beat the shit. out of the kid who's in your house.

But Cliff is like, don't worry, you don't have to make me dinner. I'll take care of myself. That also was a good move. The re-drummond recipe that may have busts out, first of all, re-drumman probably has grounds for slander for this episode. Extremely tough. That said, also inedible. And then we get the Ruffalo side.

I was like, all right, this guy's either putting his life back together or his life is kind of settled here. So we get that whole set up. And then we just get a home invasion. Pretty early. It's like 20 minutes in. Yeah. And the switch flips.

And it's like, okay, here we go. Really, as Rob said, really nice and clean. It's a good scene. Well, you have to see it go well before you see it go terribly. I mean, it's like clockwork the first time. Yeah. And honestly, it sounds like the first like 10 times. It's just they push a little too far with the one last job.

I guess I did have a nipick about how big is this area. And wouldn't it be easy to just find these guys? Well, I think that they said they were hitting multiple counties. dealers. Yeah, and that they were hitting multiple counties. Multiple counties, but most of these houses are run by one gang, it sounds like. One motorcycle club. I love an MC. Do we get the motorcycle club episode possibly? I mean, we're going to get more. Do we just switch out of there?

Oh, just to like Sons of Anarchy Time? Yeah, we're just for a half hour. Yeah, we're with the prospect. That sounds phenomenal. And what's going on with the Pennsylvania Motor Club scene? We're about to find out. Brad's about to tell it. Let's true detective this shit.

Like somebody goes undercover in the motor club. cycle club. I don't know who it's going to... Maybe that's a job for Lizzie. Maybe she's just the attitude for it. Feuding with Joelle and Bede. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we get some Robbie Maeve. Yeah. Unusual name. Irish. There was one... There's a Maeve Quinlan, right? That was an actress. I can't remember. I'm trying to think of other maves.

Maeve Benji, author. It's a very Irish name. Very Irish. Anyway, they start battling. That's not... He's hiding in the closet watching her hook up. that was a great scene. Great. The whole thing, like him walking in with the headphones on and like dancing around to the music. The fact that they have both guys like enjoying music and dancing around to music at a certain point in this episode, both in train wreck scenes. But I just thought that was like really great.

I love the tattoo assortment on Tom Pelfrey. Like we haven't talked about the fact that he's like his dead brother is this big weight that's hanging on him. Yeah. So what do we think that backstory is? I don't know, 2023, so fairly fresh. I mean, could be a different kind of job gone wrong. That's hard to say. Maybe it's completely unrelated to all this stuff.

I don't know. I had a... I'm going drunk driver. Drunk driver. We're a... RostisiV at Spotify.com. I was trying to source... There's like this medallion hanging from his rearview mirror that has wings on it

and like the date of when Billy died. And I was trying to see if it like, is this Air Force or is this just like angel wing stuff? Anyway, if anyone has medallied information and wants to email us, I would like to know. Joe, you're coming in with the freeze frames with the incredible accuracy. I also say, like, yes, email us at prestige TV at Spotify.com. I did investigate whether we should get an email address for this show specifically. I did try snickerdoodle 223 at gmail.com. Does it take it?

Unfortunately, it was already taken. So we'll have to come with something else. Did you try emailing it to see if, like, HBO is running that email? It would be a great bit. Yeah. Joe heard that somebody said online, prestige peak during Wet Lotus. She's like, you, oh, no, just wait. Yeah, just wait.

My freeze frame game is going up a notch. So we have the actual robbery. Well, Ruffalo, Kittingbaum with the priest. What was the rock song? Oh, I looked up. I feel like I know all the rock songs. And that was one where I was like, I kind of like this. I don't know what it is.

It's out of Africa. It's an African rock song? Mm-hmm. Nice. Like they were, I think it's outside of your listening. Zimbabween. But it's, the band, I don't have it in front of me. The band was inspired by Jimmy Hendricks.

I know that. I thought it was good. It was really good. The music budget on the show generally, very good. The selection, amazing. I like to say, come on, Danny, take your collar off. Yeah, yeah, now you're just a guy. Let's get rowdy in the kitchen.

Can I tell you something that another movie that I got really excited about that this reminded me of? Please. And this is just like a confession time for me. I really like that. movie Signs. And this reminds me of signs where we're in deeply unproblematic actor Mel Gibson plays a former priest who is given up priesthood because his wife died and he has lost his faith in God and has, you know, children to take care of and also an alien invasion. So what what is more like an alien invasion than a home invasion? I ask you. But like that idea of the former priest who's

like bitter about God but still believes and is wrestling with it. And, Especially because of personal tragedy. Who's wrestling with it for that reason. Do people not like signs? Do you like signs in that Shaman's signs? Only seen it once. Should I revisit it? It's definitely revisited.

It's worth the rewatch, you know? Is it really? Absolutely. I really like, Joaquin is great. Joaquin is literally batting a thousand in it. I mean, he's really coming off. Baby Abigail Breslin is in it. Got a Culkin in it, you know.

Honestly, and one of the great freeze frame moments in film history in terms of that alien, coming across the alleyway. It's true. Does Mel go to moon shadows and get bombed and then insult some cops? That's a different movie. In between scenes. Exactly.

That priest, by the way, I don't know if he was kind of into how fucked up Ruffalo was. He's seen it before for sure. 20% of it. It was like I kind of came here knowing this would happen and I'm ready for it. Well, like, he's like, I'm with you. I'll be carrying this guy up tonight. I'm with you through this.

I got here, you're drunk. Yep. I brought you some. pork sandwiches to try to soak it up. It's obviously not working. So I'm just going to, like, you know, when he tells, when the daughter has seen it so often that she knows how to turn his head so that he won't aspirate on his own vomit and stuff like that.

Yeah. And he says, he'll find his way through this, right? So this idea is like, I'm going to be here as his friend through all of this. So, yeah. Their relationship I just found to be really sweet. Like, again, there's so many, like, lived in aspects of the show from the jump. that does make some of the clunkier introductions stick out a little bit. Who turns your head so you don't aspirate in your own vomit?

Is it just your wife or are there other people that... Would the dog do it for you? I think the dog would do it, you know? You train them well, they will take care of you. And then the robbery scene, which is like high-end action level, the second one. We get two twists. There's a guy coming up the stairs. Like, oh, that guy's going to die.

Nope, he kills one of the three. and then we get the second twist of the hands coming out. And then the third twist of the kid. And losing the gun is the first twist. Oh, yeah, I guess it's a four twist scene. I have a lot of notes for everyone in the scene. But here's what I have to say. If you want to survive the day, I don't think you should scream,

we've seen your face. We've seen your face. We know you. That's not guaranteeing you're going to make it out of the other side of this home invasion. Yeah, let's talk this out. What's the upside of that? None. Honestly.

Basically, it's like, just shoot me. I know who you are. In real life, absolutely. For a TV show, as three people who know this, I did think it was like kind of a flex. It's like, we are so unafraid of you and you're like second rate bullshit. We've already seen you know who you are and we almost are like are daring you to shoot us. It is a fun action character trope as the female in the room who is so unafraid that she's actually on the attack.

Point Break had a great one where they just come. Oh. She's fighting everybody in the thing for five minutes. But yeah, I don't know who that actress was, but she was bringing it. She was feisty. I'm Amanda Plummer. We've seen your face. And then we get the, oh, we got to take the kid as the ending.

And then a nice little Brad Engelsby, the house and the shot going backwards. And we're just back in nowhere America. But having, I really like that we had the earlier argument between um mave and robbie on that same like deck area um so that we know okay he's going into this peaceful house but there's already like so much tension inside this house and now he's bringing a child he's stolen into the mix it's gonna go great it's gonna be it had to be begged to stay yeah and now i'm sure mave is gonna have no questions whatsoever rob should we do task character baggage rankings i would i would love to hear it um i think i think ruffalo's character is one

much ice is he going through if he has to do a whole sink full of ice every morning? It was a lot. The full plunge? Yeah. It's intense. Every morning. Might be the daughter, Ruffalo's daughter, too. She's going through it. She's lost multiple family members. She's got to worry about her dad throwing up on himself every night. She's not put in the position, you know, the show is kind of like setting this up dramatically, the question of whether she will testify or not in her brother's sentencing hearing. And then question within that, if you are her and you, you're just, you're going to, you're going to, you your, I assume, biological brother killed your adopted mother, if that's what we're assuming

happened. Do you want him to get off less? Do you not want him to get off easy? Like, she's in such a difficult position. So the baggage is high. That's probably, and then probably Tom Pelfrey's character is probably third. I don't know about May. What about May?

Is tough. Lost her dad. Yeah. Is a 20-year-old who's basically having to raise several kids who are not her own siblings, it seems like. Waldwell fart jokes. Waldwell, well, look, feature a bug, you decide. Yeah.

And her uncle, who's just like basically a deadbeat sleeping in the other room. And doesn't know how to cook something that doesn't look like. It may be third. Yeah. I don't know what happened. Like, how do you put cheese in the oven and it doesn't melt? Like, what did you do to that cheese? What was that cheese?

I don't know. It was so marshmallow-y. It was clumpy in a fedo way, but feda would melt. I had many questions. It would be funny to see Brad Engelsby tackle big little lies. It was his next show or something like high-hand wealthy. Something glossier. Like the Hamptons, just people making badgrove cheeses.

Have you had water ice? I don't think I have. Frozen custard. It's good. I've had water iced, yeah. I've had Rita specifically. There are two Rita's in Los Angeles. So dare I suggest for the finale, we should maybe get some.

I would love it. I haven't had the cherry flavor that apparently has cherry bits in it. Merivistown was the first time I'd ever had a Philly cheese steak. I'd never had one before. So that was like my first time ever. Overrated, right? It really is. I'm actually not a fan at all.

Yeah. I mean, low-keyed the pork sandwich is better. Like straight up as far as Philly delicacies go. The irony of local delicacies is that almost always they're overrated. Are there any you're willing to go to bat for? Look, the lobster roll is another one. Lobster rolls can be good. Yeah.

But people think when they go to Massachusetts and the Cape, it's like, got to get the lobster roll. It's like, I don't know if you do. Really depends on where you're getting it from. I might not have the greatest experience. Vermonti sandwiches in Pittsburgh is another one. I would say press each TV at Spotify.com, Chicago deep dip pizza pizza. I like, sorry, I couldn't even say it. I did not have a great time with it.

It is lasagna, but I like it. No, I like it in general, but I was just like nothing about the ones that I had in Chicago. Deep dish pizza's lasagna. Yeah. Which is delightful. There's some great Bay Area versions of deep dish. But then I went to Chicago. I was like, this isn't any better.

The first three bites are great. And then it goes like this. It's like a Charlotte Hornet season. It's an NBA joke for Rob. It starts out great. And all of a sudden, the mellows un-disabled this. I think you're being very kind to the Charlotte Hornets with that comparison. But you just feel sick after like two slices.

Oh, it's intense. It's like a lasagna crossed with, I don't know what. But yeah. So anyway, local delicacies, cheese steak, it's fine. Would you go to bat for a local delicacy from your hometown? Well, so the clam chowder. Yeah, the chowder. And the scallops in general.

Yeah? Yeah. They're worth it. The front, like if you get the fried scallops situation, because that's where stuff like that's, it's, if you're getting like out here, they're maybe not in L.A., but let's say you're middle America. Yeah. They're sending you frozen scallops that they're then unfreezing and then serving to you, right?

If you're in the East Coast, it's just like they got the scallops. Texas barbecue? Unimpeachable. Tex-Mex barbecue, what a burger, unimpeachable. San Francisco, sourdough, burritos. You know what's not unimpeachable from the Bay? Dutch Crunch. I think about Dutch Crunch.

Disgusting. People try to sell me on. I didn't know that was. Tri-tip? I don't know what we're doing out here. I didn't know that was a Bay Area. There are better options. Okay.

Interesting. Yeah, it's funny how Texas, and a couple other places, but really Texas, barbecue is just different. It just is. It's a lot of reasons. It's weird that LA is the second biggest city in America and has not figured out barbecue at all past like a B or a B plus. Bad news for brand new Angelino, Ron Mahoney.

Extremely tough for me, but I will find it. There's one promising leads. There's one place there Dodger Stadium that's not that far from you. That could be a good one. I've heard some interesting spots. I think the difference is the barbecue culture in Texas is so different. It's very much like I'm just going to commit to waiting in line for 90 minutes or two hours, drinking a beer while standing outside with my friends.

Like, that's just a part of the experience. We have Korea town here. I mean, that's like one of the best scenes in the country. Bottom line is everyone's regional food is terrible except for Boston, all of Texas and the Bay Area. Held it. And L.A. Yep. I disparage Boston with the lobster rolls.

But the chowda. It depends on the chowder. Okay. I think people think it's... I'm sorry, I thought you were hitting at Maine with the lobster rolls. I didn't know of this. That was an ogle. Oh, yeah.

Lapsaroles can be great. I'm just saying. People think when you go, it's just a blind order and it's going to be great. And it's like, just pick your spots. This isn't sushi in Tokyo. You can't just like roll up to the 7-Eleven equivalent in Boston. Pick your spots. Yeah.

That's it. Predictions. Well, here's my question. Which fresh-faced member of the task? force is dying first. Is getting shot in the back of the head? Is that you getting married? This is a great question.

Well, we got one divorce on the book, so she seems safe. Lizzie seems safe by conversing. Are Lizzie and Anthony Grasso hooking up before the end of the season? Why not Alia, though? Well, he keeps looking at Lizzie like this hot mess, and then he was like, but there's something about her. So you're seeing like an enemies-to-lover's situation for them?

I don't know. I don't know. Chris and Quill is a dog. Whoever dies is going to have some sort of backstory, like a scene taking care of their sick father, like something that'll make people like, oh, we can't lose them. I'm excited to learn more about Alia. We just got very little beyond one wet wipe, uh,

you know. Which vindicated. That house is disgusting. You should wipe down anything that is touched there. Like, that's a fair perspective. I am already like already devastated for when Cliff dies in episode five or so. Uh, because we got to start cutting off that, like the

roads and the options for Robbie. Do you think the MC gets Cliff? I'm not sure who's going to get The feds get Robbie. I mean, that is kind of like the escalating stakes is that people are just going to start dying in retribution because of this motorcycle club. So why not Cliff? Cliffs had tough luck on HBO just in general, finding happiness. Yeah.

So I'm worried about it. The looking movie turned out like Team Richie all the way. But, you know, he'll have his moment here before then, hopefully. How about you? Not even a very good barber. Okay, that's uncalled. Wow, wow, wow. Dumbed he wasn't a good barber.

I think that the episode two normally is the reset, take it easy, set up episode three. Let's try to get some shit down, some character stuff in. And I don't think we're going to learn a lot the next time we do an episode. Seven episode season though, there's a lot. I know, but they're going to go and then episode three and it'll just do that little dance. You feel like there's one episode where we're just bird watching? We're just capturing new bird calls on the bird watching app. And some chorus stuff?

Yeah. More quarry stuff. Yeah. We're definitely getting a couple twists, right? That Mary Vistown had a couple of big ones. Of course. And probably a Ruffalo completely falling off. But something I will say is that Mary Vistown, I'm curious, this show is so good.

But I am curious if it's going to be as much a phenomenon as Mary Vistown was, because Mary Vistown was a hoodon it. And this is not a whodunit. It's a what do they say on poker face? A Y done it? A when Ketchum. How catch him? How catch them sort of thing?

Like, we know who did everything. So what qualifies for a phenomenon at this point? Because you could argue the pit. I think the pit actually became a phenomenon. A hundred percent. Absolutely. For what you're looking for from a streaming only on max kind of show? But the pit has a gimmick, right?

Which is like every episode is an hour of this one shift sort of thing. I think the show deserves to be a phenomenon. I'm just curious if it's going to catch the way that Merivestown caught in a very specific COVID-Ten Time, you know, content was sparse. And everyone loves Kate Wednesday. And Kate playing like rough and tumble is far more surprising than Mark Ruffalo playing fucked up and curly-headed. So, you know.

Can we play right network wrong network? Where do you see this? I think it's an HBO show. Yeah. Yeah. This feels like the right place. Absolutely. Which is a rare thing these days.

Yeah, yeah. Although now we have a better sense for what's an Apple show. Do we? I was about to say I'm all years. Your friends and neighbors felt like an Apple show. The morning show felt like an Apple show. We continue to ask these questions. We don't know the answers.

And as we ask these questions, the subscription price goes up and up and up. What else do we update? Anything before we go? I don't think so. I think we got most of it. I didn't really make a prediction. I'm just like, just we are so fucking back. I'm so psyched and energized by the existence of this show.

What about the possibility of a zag? If Engelsby likes heat, it's too easy to have the Pacino ending. where De Niro dies and Pacino's holding him. What if they're zag in Ruffalo's the one that dies? Very possible. I could easily see them. Pelfrey's not going to get away because I think there's a reason why there's

a legal guardian ready to take care of those kids as soon as he dies. It's a good reason I have maim on the scene. The D.H is just sitting there ready to go. But Tom could also die. Ruffalo's character could also die. Yeah. Because Emily will be fine.

Double death. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. The heat structures. just like these two guys, again, across purposes, bouncing each other off each other all season. But who dies?

Do you think they're going to have a diner scene, or is that too much to reach for? What's the Philly equivalent? I was wondering. At the Wawa? I'm meeting at the Wawa. Is there going to be a Philly game involved in this? Will there be a Phillies game?

I could see it. We've already got a lot of Phillies talk already. A lot of truth together. Yeah, Bede's not playing. They bond over their frustrations over the process. It hasn't been healthy for two years. I don't know. Pelfrey seems like a Ben Simmons guy.

I don't know. I'm concerned. Eagles game is in play. Minor league baseball. There's some minor league baseball in Pennsylvania. Maybe like a lower-end MMA show. You're trying to figure out what would make this feel the most Chris and Andy. How do they end up in the same place?

I mean, I like Wawa personally. I think that's selling me. It's pretty good. Maybe a ring or verse live show in Philly? Yes. The Watch live show. Rocky Vuevee Watchables. If Anglesby wrote in a watch live show but had actors playing Chris and Andy,

that would be a personal attack. Well, that's his third pitch. Or a celebration. Oh, that's the third show. Yeah, HBO already greenlit it. Oh, okay. The watch goes wrong. All right.

I'm so glad we're back with Presti. This is legitimate Presti TV. Yes. It is. We're back. So we're going to cover. There's only seven episodes. You're going to be on all of them.

I'll be on some of them. Okay. But who knows? There's only seven football season. Maybe you'll be on them. See, Rob's off. Rob doesn't have basketball yet. No.

I'm like deep down, looking through the NFC West, trying to figure out if Arizona's going to go under. Are they? For wins? Yes, I think they will. Come. Are you going to win the fantasy league? Probably not.

Okay. That's big of you to admit. Probably not. Not feeling great about it. Anyway, join Robbison. Great to see you again. Rob Moni. Pleasure, as always.

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