The Prestige TV Podcast - ‘The Last of Us’ Episode 6 Recap

Episode Date: February 20, 2023

Charles and Van share their instant reactions to the sixth episode of ‘The Last of Us.’ They discuss how this episode finally cements Joel and Ellie’s father-daughter bond and their love for each other. Along the way, the guys talk about Tommy’s return, the Jackson community, and whether or not the season will finish strong. Hosts: Charles Holmes and Van Lathan Producer: Kai Grady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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of us. Then, how are you feeling, man? I'm feeling fantastic. Fantastic. Because of the show, just in general, just in life. Oh, blah. Okay, look, I'm feeling great. I'm feeling great because I just watched the show. I just watched it. I'm coming in hot off the press. And the show manages to give us a different look every single time. It's like a, I don't know, it's like, it's like this great sort of chameleon of drama. Like,

a fighter that can adapt to any opponent. Last episode, we had this sort of escape, action-filled escape drama. Today, we had the bond of Ellie and Joel on the forefront. This is the episode where they became

father and daughter. It is. It is. So, this episode title is called Kin, directed by just Mila Zabonik, written by Craig Mason. We start three months later. as Joel and Ellie stick up in old Native American family asking where they are

and if they've seen Tommy. The couple warm them not to go west and to avoid the river of death. As they leave, Joel clutches his chest, a recurring ailment throughout the episode that we find out later his fear. Joel and Ellie are eventually ambushed by a group of settlers

and are taken back to their settlement. There, Joel is reunited with his brother Tommy who was married to one of the leaders of the Jackson commune, Maria. Eventually, Tommy reveals that he's about to become a father as Joel struggles with the responsibility of taking care of Ellie. While getting her haircut by Maria, Ellie learns that Joel had a daughter. Joel convinces Tommy to take Ellie the rest of the way, but after an argument between the pseudo father and daughter duo, Joel decides

that Ellie should get to choose who she stays with. Ellie picks Joel and the two travel to Eastern Colorado University, which has been abandoned by the fireflies who have relocated to Salt Lake City. Joel is stabbed by a bandit, and after escaping falls off a force, leaving Elie. alone to panic. So, Van, I gotta, I gotta come to you, my boy. I like this episode, but part of me might be bumping up against the last of us and how it operates, where this episode reminded me of a video game, not in terms of like the content of it, but in terms of like that feeling of we always have to start over, where

there was parts of this episode that I dramatically absolutely loved up there with the best. But some of it, I was just like, oh, shit, yeah. I kind of just kind of want to be back with Henry and Sam. I kind of want to just be back with Nick Offerman. And that's actually a success of the show, making me fall in love with these characters. But yeah, this was the episode where I was feeling a little bit like, damn, we really got to start over again. Yeah, I think there's something that The Last of Us is doing that's almost Mandalorian-esque in that there's a driving central narrative to the show. every single episode seems like a sort of new adventure in that.

And it doesn't seem to be much kinetic energy that's held over from the last episode. I think that's a clear dramatic choice, a clear narrative choice, should I say, that the creators here have made. I will say that what that does lend itself to is sometimes things being a small bit anticlimatic. Like, are you talking about when he meets Tommy, this thing that we've been like, By the time it happens, you're like emotionally cool, but you're like, oh, this is, this is it. Okay, so he's just, he's there.

You know, it's kind of like there. And I feel like the show is doing that intentionally so that there's no one thing that we're waiting for to bail us out as a viewer. Because this episode ends up not being about his reunion with Tommy at all. It doesn't end up being about finding Tommy and it becomes less about even how they're going to get her to the fireflies. The show is really all about the people. This really becomes an episode where Ellie is given the opportunity to choose the type of life that she wants to have,

which is something that Tommy and Joel and a lot of other people that we've met so far didn't get to do. they essentially had to adapt to the new world. But with her, when she essentially chooses Joel to take her to go find the rest of the fireflies, she's choosing love and she's choosing connection and she's choosing something deeper than just a mission. That's really what this episode is about. But Joel has just been so desperate to find Tommy that you thought it would be a bigger deal with he did. But, I mean, if we're going to be real, isn't that life in general? in terms of just like the things that you think will like change your life

or will give you a certain amount of emotional closure rarely do. And I think the thing that this show smartly is always fighting against is that when you play a video game, you're supposed to change the world. Every action that you do is supposed to be the biggest thing ever. And I think the last of us very smartly is essentially like, no, that's not realistic. If you want people to buy in this world,

it just can't be as easy as, all right, we got to this checkpoint and now everything is good because no, it's not. I mean, that makes a lot of sense and it just seems like

with every single benchmark that we hit in the show, there's a new problem that arises. Yeah. You know, Joel is dealing with a crippling anxiety issue. I would like to shout out to the American couple.

I like to see Graham Green. I always like to see him in a role. He's been somebody that's been around. They were so funny. Like, I was just like, yes, put them on the screen for. Confident, cool, compassionate, the three Cs. Wait, really quick before, while you're on there, can I just say there's never been a more realistic betrayal of like an older couple than when he's just like, did you lie to them?

And she's like, mm-mm. And he's like, are you lying to me? And she's like, no. And I was just like, bruh, this is my grandparents all over again. Yeah, they've been there before that. They're not tripping. Ritina Wesley shows up in this episode, you know, people will know her from True Blood. she is Tommy's wife in this episode, Maria.

The Miller boys love them some black women. Did you know what you said? Yeah, they get it in. They love the queens. Shout out to them. Shout out to them. A couple of Robert De Niro's hanging around in the apocalypse. Maria in the game is not black.

So I was just like, oh, shit, okay. Got you one. And, you know, it was interesting to see her in this episode. and people know her from True Blood you might know her from Queen Sugar. You find out in the episode that she's a DA and that makes a lot of sense

because she seems to interrogate every single thing that she runs into. It was good. It's always good to see these characters when they are faced with the choice of a life versus a purpose.

Because in this situation, it would be very hard for me not to stay in Dodge City or wherever the fuck they were. The old border town, Disneyland, Westworld. I saw that sweet potato pie. I'm like, I'm never leaving.

They got sweet potato pie. It's probably pumpkin pie. They got sweet potato pie. They got movies in a movie house with popcorn. They got lights. Hot water. The whole nine. What pie would, like, let's say

if you had to make a pie for your settlement to get people to be like, are salemants better than the next one? Which pie would you trot out to be like, yeah? Peacom pie. Peacom pie. I love pecan pie.

Van. I love pecan pie. I don't give a fuck what you say. You're not like I'm not, you're not about to, there's no way that you're about to make me feel bad for liking pecan pie. I like, I'm not trying to make you feel bad. Here's the thing. I associate pecan pie with old niggas. Like my grandpa love pecan pie.

Kai, jump on. Did he not shame me? Did he not ask me what kind of pie that I like? And then shame me immediately for the type of pie that I like. Peacom pie is delicious. He did put up the pins a little bit. All right. Kai, but before you leave, let me ask you this question.

Is pecan pie generally reserved for old as people? Listen, I'm not the one to ask because I don't like any type of food, but I don't know anyone around my age group that likes pecan pie. What kind of pie do they like? I don't know. Pumpkin pie, apple pie. You don't even know. Hold on. Hold on. He said pumpkin pie.

You get ran straight the fuck out the culture. Kai, jump off. Thank you. Wait, Kyle. I'm super picky. I'm not the one to ask. That's the thing. Then, what's wrong with pumpkin pie?

Black people can't like pumpkin pie now? Fuck, no. I don't even want to get off into this tangent. Okay. Kalanizer pie. I don't even want to get off it to this tangent. Kai, thank you. We'll come back to you at your video game corner

and we'll just a little bit. You managed to embarrass me even more. Yes, it would be pecan pie, whatever. So it has nothing to do with the last of this episode. I'd like to get back on track if you don't, if you, excuse me. But the episode was very complex in its characterization. You can see the strain between Tommy and Joel that there's a lot of trauma there. They don't know what quite to make of each other.

It seems as if Tommy doesn't think that they can ever turn page from what they did and Joel kind of already has. So it's, the episode was full of, it was a very meaty episode in terms of real stakes between the people that we've come to love in the show

and somebody that we have been told to love, which is Tommy. But the other thing I wanted to talk to you about now that we're on Joel and Tommy is that in the beginning of the season we were confused. We thought Joel was the soldier. And in this, it pops up again where it's like,

I would expect Tommy to be the person who is like we had to do what we had to do to be successful with the mission. But instead, it's Joel, to your point, who's just like we did what we had to do, doesn't seem to be haunted by any of the murders they've committed. While it's Tommy the soldier who seems very, very, I don't know, just kind of just like I can never go back to this life. Even when he's about to take Ellie, you can tell he's. doing this because Joel asked him, not because he wants to leave this commune. What did you kind of feel about realizing that Tommy is actually the more sensitive brother, it seems? He's the most sensitive brother.

He also seems like the more sensible brother. Yeah. He seems like a big picture thinker where Joel seems that he is dominated by focus and mission accomplishment, which makes him uniquely qualified to get Ellie to wherever she needs to go. But maybe not as qualified for building a structure and a life in this. new world, which he's had a problem doing, which just seems like that's what Tommy is here to do. The brothers are foils for one another, and that really works in terms of litigating the stakes of where they are. And it was a perfect choice. I'm not sure how it is in the video game,

but I thought it was very interesting that despite the fact that they are foils, that Joel was still able to end a master class of acting. I've never heard someone. Well, it's been done before, but in recent memory, I haven't heard someone monologue about their frailty as well as Pedro Pascal did towards the end of the end of this episode where he is really convincing Tommy that he's not the man that he used to be. And really, we've seen that.

We've seen him fall asleep. We've seen him with the shotgun to his neck. we've seen the fact that you know as we get older besides LeBron James everybody slows down and just the juxtaposition between the two characters

for the entire episode it worked it worked for me is there is there a part of Ellie's humanity that you think she's missing because I feel like the the show almost in a way has been teasing us

about how how much of Ellie's childhood is gone, how much of that innocence is gone, but how much has she basically had to become a mirror of how brutal this world was. And it was just interesting seeing Ellie contrasted with the other kids,

because she's like a feral little child, the way she eats, the way she hisses at the kid who's interested in her. I was just like, is the show essentially teasing that there's a broken part of Ellie that is going to explode at one point?

Well, she's not broken yet. because she hasn't been assembled yet. She's an adolescent. And I think that's the thing that we forget about kids sometimes. Like, what we're trying to do with kids, adolescent kids and kids that are younger, is we're trying to build them.

So when they do break, which we all do as human beings, that the pieces are big enough that you can put them all back together. So you try to give them big pieces of love. You try to give them big pieces of spirituality. You try to give them big pieces of spirituality. You try to give them big pieces.

of education, like build them big so that they're not all these little shards. So when they shatter, they go everywhere and then they can't put themselves back together. Everybody as a human being will break. Yeah. The question is, how easy will it be to put them back together? The only way to do that is when somebody is a kid

to build these big, strong, heavy, foundational pieces in their life so they have something that's easy to reassemble. But kids never do. You have to try. Try, right? Kids never do. And because they don't, they challenge everything. They challenge the things that you are trying to teach them to make them hold. They don't want to get enough rest. They don't want to eat right. They don't want to go to school. They don't want to call their grandparents. They don't know nothing yet. And so what everything that Ellie is doing and who Ellie is is a result. And even some of the pluckiness that I criticized earlier is a result of her adoles. being in a broken place. How do you build a whole human in a place that's broken?

And the only thing that's allowing that to happen for her is her relationship with Joel. That's the thing through which we're seeing her learn to love, her learn to trust, her learn to rely her learned to accept criticism, her ability to be led, her ability to lead, her ability to lead. And in Joel, we're seeing that same thing because Joel is at the point where he's being put back together again. And it's fitting that in this episode, it's the first time that we hear him talk about his daughter or they talk about his daughter. That's a big piece.

that's a big broken piece, right? And it would take someone like Ellie to give that back to him because he's never going to want to access it. He's going to want to leave it buried. So I think that, you know, the way that she's acting and who she's being, I think that's, I mean, that's certainly who I was at that time.

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Find Ollie's sleep solutions for the whole family at ollie.com. That's OLLL-L-Y.com. But another thing, too, that I think is interesting. At first, I thought it was a throwaway line. But then I realize it's kind of like the metaphor that is really unifying the whole episode is this recurring thing about sheep. Joel, like, tells Ellie that his dream after this is to have a farm somewhere to raise sheep. We get to the university where it's the big horns. And I was thinking about kind of what sheep mean.

And like, it's very clear. They almost slap you in the face with it. Is like, how long can you dream or how long can you be trapped in your nightmares? When you see even Joel has a dream nightmare, whatever it is, about his daughter. He's seeing visions of his daughter, this thing that's haunting him. And even when you get to the college realizing, is this all a dream in terms of like this idea that they can save humanity? This idea that like they'll meet somebody one day who can create a vaccine that can put everything back to normal. Is that something that they should be fighting for or to what you were.

kind of talking about earlier, is it more important for Joel and Ellie to learn how to live? Should they have stayed at the Jackson commune? Is it okay just to pause and not almost chase after this thing that if at this point, episode

after episode, I'm like, you know, motherfuckers ain't saved in the world. Well, I mean, they talk about that in the episode, right? Like you said, there's like, you know, what happens when I get there? And that's foreshadowing a little bit too. What happens when I get there? Are they going to turn her blood into an aerosol that you can spray all over the world.

And how's that going to work? How's it, how they're going to, how they're going to cure everybody? Is there even the infrastructure that exists right now to do that? Are people even going to believe in the cure? I mean, look at our world. Look at how long it took us to get the vaccine. And like, we had everything. So I think that's also the thing the show is battling is like, like, like we know it's

not this easy, you know? Yeah. Yeah. It's a whole thing. Like you said, we know that. So, you know, there's just all of these questions, but the more questions that come up, there seems to be one thing that is certain. Joel and Ellie love each other.

Yeah, this is the episode. It finally happens. This is the episode where it happens. They have everything else is uncertain. The future is uncertain. The president is uncertain. We don't know what's going to happen when they get to where they're going. We don't know how things are going to go.

we don't know who to trust, but the one thing that is certain is that they love one another. And the question becomes, when does that take precedence in front of everything else? When does that matter more than saving the world,

then getting to a destination? When does that become the thing that's worth living for? Because remember, that's what we've seen before. See, that with Bill and Frank. We saw that with Henry and, Sam. And I apologize on the last episode. I actually confused the two actors between Henry and Sam. The actor that I said plays Henry, plays Sam, the actor that I said plays Sam, plays Henry.

So I apologize to the listeners for that. But yeah, so, you know, when your purpose is right in front of you, it's difficult to go searching for one. And I think that that's kind of starting to manifest itself in the show as well. And I mean, we've been talking about, you know, Joel and Ellie becoming closer. And it's just funny how I think the show continues to do a great job with introducing the way that Joel

is raising her, where it's like the first real father-daughter moment that they have is Joel teaching her how to shoot a gun. Yeah. And that shows you so much not only about the world, but about what Joel feels like Ellie will need

to survive in this world, where when Maria is in like giving her like the clothes, leaves out the clothes, she's worried about, you know, Ellie's hygiene. She's worried about Ellie's hair. She's worried about cosmetic things

that are on the surface. While Joel is just like, all right, I'm finally going to teach you out of hunt. Or we learned earlier in the episode that Ellie has been learning from Joel about what to do to look out for people who might be hunting them.

How to like, how to get the high ground, how to look for tracks. And I thought it was interesting, realizing, like, so much of their dynamic is Joel almost teaching Ellie about the world that they're in

instead of the world that used to be. Yeah, of course. He has to. Also, we see something natural happening, something that naturally happens in the lives of parents and children. You know, they take care of you, and then you take care of them.

You know what I mean? So in this episode, we kind of saw that. we saw there being almost the beginnings of a small torch passing. We see Ellie protect Joel when he falls asleep. At the end, obviously, Joel is wounded, a very nasty wound. And so Ellie is going to have to, at least in part, not just nurse Joel, but protect him. And that's a real, real, real, real big deal in a father-daughter, daughter, daughter-father

relationship, you know? Let's go to Kai's video game corner. Kai, correct me if I'm wrong, but a lot of the Laszba's game is about the differences between how you play as Joel versus how you play as Ellie. And obviously, this is something that happens in the game, but can you kind of describe to the listeners the difference between controlling Joel in the game versus? controlling Ellie and why you control her. It comes down to this moment where Joel gets hurt.

And in the game, he's still struggling with one of those like attackers, but he falls off of a balcony and is impaled by some rebar. It's pretty nasty in that way still. And then that's where, you know, it ends, that section of the game ends with Joel passing out, just like you see in the episode. And then it comes back and you're playing as Ellie, which is a shock to the player.

It's more of just like with Ellie, you're a lot smaller, you're a lot quicker. and you don't really have the brute strength that Joel does. You can't just take on any enemy you see one-on-one with your fists. And I think if I remember correctly, you also have like more, you're more reliant on a bow and arrow than like guns. I know you have them, but that's kind of some of the major differences. But yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty shocking in the game when it gets to that point. And obviously here when Joel passes out in the episode ends like that,

it's definitely a turn. What about the Jackson commune? Because there is a commune in the game just like this, reuniting. Like, what are the similarities and differences between what we see on screen for this adaption and what you play in as the game? Basically, a lot of these events, you know, meeting up with Tommy, having Ellie talk to Maria, all that kind of stuff. That's in the game, but it all takes place at that dam that you come across.

You actually never go into Jackson community in the first game. Now, everything that you see is like pretty similar, pretty identical to what happens in part two, where like the game opens and you're in that community without spoiling anything. And so like all of that is pulled straight from that game. And so I think a lot of this episode and I think, you know, what we're going to see moving forward is a lot of planting the seeds for season two because they're making this with part two the game in mind, which, you know, when the first last was came out, they didn't know there was going to be a sequel. So you never go to the community. You see it. And then Joel and Ellie part ways with Tommy. But like in the second one year, you live in that community in the very beginning.

We skirted over this. But then I wanted to get your opinion on this. Did you see Tommy's eyes when his wife was just like, yeah, this is communism? And I'm like, yeah, he was a soldier because he's like, what did you say? And I'm like, bro. It's so oblivious. He's like, that was a great scene. It's so oblivious and communism.

Like, no, no, not like that. It's like, no. Actually, exactly like that. We share all of this stuff. This is a commune. We're communist. It's flat. Why is he still brainwashed at the end of the world, though?

I'm like, bruh, what are we doing? He's just a dummy. How many fucking, like, cows do you own? Are you the cow? Is it capitalism? Now, y'all trading shit. Y'all sharing everything. You just said it, you know?

Maybe it doesn't work for 350 million people, but it could work for 300 people. All right? So just relax. Kai, I have one more video game corner, but like, let's go to acting corner real quick. Because I feel like Pedro Pascal has almost been sidelined a little bit where I think similar to the Mandalorian sometimes where it's like because the world is so interesting, Pedro is very good at grounding being the straight man, the person that like can move the plot forward but never really gets as much time to shine. This was an acting masterclass. then what did you think about

when he's fixing the boots and then Tommy comes in because to your point like seeing seeing him talk about his dreams his failures seeing how broken he was I'm like no this is why you cast Pascal this role. Yeah this is the one

when you're going to the actor and you're saying we want you to do this show based upon this video game and you're trying to convince them of it this is the kind of size that you give someone to let them know they're really going to get their chance to cook because there's nothing more compelling than someone facing their mortality while trying to save somebody else's life. It's just the human experience all rolled into one

dramatic relationship. And what he's essentially saying is, look, I don't have much time left as a badass, but she has to survive. Will you help me? And it's him transferring power to his younger brother, who we hear him say earlier in the show. that he had to keep out of trouble. It's something that's hard. It's something that's necessary. But it's something that also demonstrates the depth of his relationship

and his love and the affinity that's being created or building between him and Ellie. It's a big, big time scene. Big time scene, big time actor. Big time actors make big time roles, baby. Big time plays. You know what I'm saying?

Pedro Pascal. P.P. is as hot as anybody right now. He can play any role. You can draft, though, him or Jonathan Majors? Who has the bigger draft capital right now? I was just about to say that Pedro

Pascal could probably play Martin Luther King Jr. right now. I don't know, bro. That's kind of a, that situation right there is kind of I don't know, man. That's one of those weird situations where it doesn't matter whether or not

you get the first or second pick, you're pretty good. Who would you choose, though? I would draft Jonathan Majors, but it doesn't matter who you get. I think I'm going Jonathan Major. If it was for movies, I'd pick Majors. If it was for, I had to greenlight a TV show tomorrow, it would be Pascal. Yeah, but you hate on Majors because Majors, you hate on Majors because Majors was,

Majors is done TV and he's been, he's killed it on TV. You're a hater. He's a movie star now. He kind of is. Now he definitely is, but Pedro Pascal, look, either, you can't go wrong with either guy. I'm trying to think of a draft where the one and the two both ended up being super dope. and every situation that I think about like that, as time went on, it wasn't like that.

You know, people, for a long time, it was LeBron and Carmelo Anthony, and I'm like, you know, Carmel had a great career. He's a legend, man. Like, come on. Top 10 in scoring. He's nice. He tastes the money.

Right. It's a big fucking different stuff. I remember for a long time, it was like LeBron Carmelo, LeBron Carmelo. You guys were too young, but when they first came out, it was like, LeBron Camelo,

LeBron Carmelo. And that lasted maybe like four seasons. And then maybe even three seasons, then LeBron takes the calves to the finals against the Spurs. And it was like, yeah, this guy's a little different. Multiple MVP. First team, all defense. You know what I mean?

Score, pass, chase down block. It just, yeah. So I'm trying to think of a draft where the one and the two, in football I could think of one. And basketball, it's a little harder. 2019 was Zion and Jha. I mean, Zion's injury prone, but he's still nice. See, that's not going to, it's not going to work.

That one doesn't work. Let's find one. No, listeners, listeners. Actually, find for us, when this goes up, hit us up. Find a draft where number one, number two. Well, you would have been good with the one or the two. The one or the two, either one, either one. The one of the two, both led you to championships and all of that jazz and all that kind of shit.

I know it's got to be one. Come on, guys. Bill, if Bill and Sean were on here, see, this is what I'm talking about. CR, Juliet, like, all of these people. This is why we don't move up. Why is this my problem now, bro? Bro.

All right. I have one more question for video game. Rob, I'm about to text Rob. Go ahead. The university. Can you talk to us about the university in the game? Because this almost advanced point earlier

about some things feeling anticlimactic. I realized, like, when they got to the, university. I'm like there's three episodes left. But in the game, what is it like when you get to the university? It's kind of like a, it's, it's hard to explain because it's like the show where it's pretty desolate. Like there's not a lot going on. You kind of, you're scavenging around. You find some like journals and audio recorders to kind of know what happened at that location to make everyone leave. Why did everybody leave in the game? So according to like all the lore, it was like they were testing on a bunch of lab monkeys, the quarter sap. And one of,

the doctors thought that the monkey should be free and it bit him and then the outbreak happened and then they had to move to Salt Lake. So yeah, it's pretty dead when you get there. It's kind of just, I think, used as that moment for Joel to get really injured and then it to switch to Ellie. Like, that's really what that, it's a really short part of the game too.

Are there any corticeps monkeys running around? No, there are monkeys, but none of them like try to attack you or anything like that. So there's just monkeys hanging out. I was wondering about that. If I saw a monkey, I'd be fucking terrified. They were acting like there were squirrels. I was just like, bruh.

These are like fucking big ass monkey. Rip your face off. Like, yeah, those monkeys will rip your fucking face off. Bruh. That's just scary. Thank you, Kai, for another video game corner. Kai, Kai, I just want to let you know you played yourself in this episode. You plays yourself.

Why? What did you do? Hey, can I speak, Charles? I'm talking to Kai. I'm defending my boy. Like you plays yourself in this episode With the pecan pie situation I just want you to know

That's fair The next time you're in Los Angeles Charles you as well I'm going to get a pecan pie And if you've never had it Kai My nigger Pecan pie is amazing

The three of us are going to have A pecan pie tea time We're going to eat drink tea And we're going to have Pecan pie You're eating it, Kai Kai Why are you?

Like you're not going to eat the pie. Listen, I don't like any type of pie. I'm like the worst. That's the most light skin comment you've ever said, Kai. You don't like any pie? You don't like any pie. None. No.

I don't like a lot of food, though. This is not the tangent we want to go off on. What's your favorite food? Talk about it. What do you like to eat? Motherfucker. I love some chicken nuggets. Love, love chicken tenders.

Love good burger. This niggas 13 years old. I can't. I can't. I told you I was not the one to ask that. I can't have this conversation with you, Kyle. You said chicken nugget, bro. I can't, I can't have this conversation with you, God.

I got to be true to me. I can't, I can't have this conversation with you. No, man, you got to fly him out to L.A., take him out to some restaurants. You take Kyle to Noble and Kai gets an orange soda. And so, you guys, you know, you know, take out of nobody. He'd be like, yo, y'all got chicken to this. I would. When's the last time you ate dino chicken nuggets, Guy?

You know, maybe not the dino ones, but. I got Tyson chicken nuggets. Like, you know what I mean? Man, see you later, Kai, bro. You out, you out, bro. I catch you out. I love you. All right.

So my last question before we go for you, then, do you, like, this is a dumb question, but we are at the point where we know that this has already been renewed for another season. Do you think that last of us can stick the landing or are you a little bit worried that to keep the momentum going, we're not going to get where we need to go? I'd legitimately be shocked if they didn't stick the landing. Same. I just had to ask. Yeah, I'd legitimately be shocked if they didn't stick to landing. It's a question we have to talk about.

We have to talk about this. This is the point in the season of these shows if we start asking whether or not they're going to stick to landing. I'd be literally flabbergasted if they didn't stick to landing. So there you go. Guys, that has been our episode of the Prestise TV podcast. Thank you so much to my co-host, Van. Thank you so much to the nasty chicken nugget master himself.

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