The Prestige TV Podcast - ‘The Pitt’ Season 2, Episode 3: What’s Worse Than Maggots?

Episode Date: January 23, 2026

Jo and Rob use their X-ray vision goggles to recap the third episode of ‘The Pitt’ Season 2. (0:00) Intro (1:38) Mailbag check-in (11:23) Instant reactions (20:29) Kylie, her dad, and Santos (24:10) Tony Chinchiolo: Worst hang ever (25:53) The Triage Bros. (29:23) Mrs. Kovalenko and Dr. Robby (36:45) The motorcycle accident (41:40) Dr. Hazel Eyes (45:35) The history of Pittsburgh fireworks (55:30) Code Black incoming Email us! [e-mail] or [e-mail] Follow us on IG and TikTok! Subscribe to the Ringer TV YouTube channel here for full episodes of ‘The Prestige TV Podcast’ and so much more! Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Rob Mahoney Producer: Kai Grady Additional Production Support: Justin Sayles Video Supervision: Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Da pit. The pit. It's 9 a.m. Is it not? It's 9 a.m. Very flirty for 9 a.m. Oh, yeah? I just think there's a lot of weird energy in the air in the pit at this hour.

It's very bizarre. This just is not the time, certainly not the place. But people got to get this energy out where they can, I suppose. It's true. All right. So we're going to talk about the pit, season two, episode, three. First, we're going to do some mailbag stuff.

Where can people reach us, first and foremost? Joe, always prestige TV at Spotify.com. Especially for DePitt. Yeah. Dr. Sidebangs at gmail.com. In honor of Cassie McKay herself, who is the subject of multiple men's affections. It's true.

You know, I would say two varying degrees of sincerity. Oh. Well, you know, it just strikes me that the Walmart greeter, he feels like more of a recreational flirt. Mr. Montrose, you are dubious. I'm not dubious. It's just like for guys like that, it's just kind of a way of life. But then there's hot guy in the bed who's just been like any chance to make a comment about how he's interested.

He's ready to go. Making it very well known. Okay. Well, you know, sometimes you have to put yourself out there. That's Dr. Sidebangs, D-O-C-T-O-R, not DR. Dr.Sidbanks and g-Mil-com. We got a lot of emails. We sure did.

From folks. A lot of folks wrote in, we talked last week about the July effect. And a lot of people in the medical community were like, that's bullshit. They did not like that we said that. It was like we wrote a pop psychology book with like a loosely true premise that sounded right. And look, we're not medical professionals. We don't really know the research on this stuff. So I am thankful both to be introduced to the concept of the July effect and have it so quickly apparently debunked.

I'm curious if the show agrees that the July effect is overblown. Sure. You know what I mean? Because the fact that they are showing all these new people starting in, July, it might be something they're engaging with or not. We'll see. But certainly our listeners were not impressed with us invoking the July effect. Some straight have disappointed. Like some real finger wagging responses, which, look, if that's your specialty, if this is your area, I get it. We're not trying to let you down, I promise. I got to say like a podcast mail inbox is like

primo finger wagging territory. It's very true. So, yeah. Some concern also about the diagnosis spoilers to the medical community. So we get a lot of medical professionals writing in with their like, hey, I think this is what's going on with Kylie or this is what's going on with Louis. I really value that input, but I also hear that people might think it's a spoiler. So I'm going to put like diagnosis corner at the bottom of the episode. We don't have any this week. Yeah. But if in future there are medical mysteries and our lovely listeners who are medical professionals

want to weigh in or people who have been Dr. Googling their way through life, want a way in, we will talk about it, but I'm just going to, I'm going to consider it like kind of a spoiler section, I guess. Spoiler, spoiled by knowledge. That feels fair to everybody. Yeah. Okay. I also got a lot of emails from people inside of the medical community defending AI.

How do we feel about that, Rob? Next. Many points were made. Okay. Nate was one of the defenders, but he also said, and I'm just going to highlight this part from Nate's email, quote, there's an AI system doing med refills in Utah now. Who are we going to sue when it inevitably causes patient harm? I doubt the tech company will be held responsible.

I think part of the social contract with the doctor-patient relationship is that patients should, should they be harmed, have remedy against such harm, ideally. We are firmly an anti-AI podcast. I am willing to continue to read these emails, definitely from folks in the medical community who are talking about the time saved and charting and stuff like that. Obviously, you guys understand your industry better than I do. It will be hard to sway me on this subject, but please keep writing in if you want to. I mean, we've never argued that there are zero practical applications in medicine,

just that overstating them comes with dire consequences, including, I don't know, hypothetically, that generative AI is 98% accurate. Tough. Okay. Dr. J., which came up last week. Yeah, we kind of blew this one, I think. Many people think it's joy.

You agree with their argument? It checks out. I mean, just in the perspective of joy having really so little to do this season so far for a character in her position, contrast how much screen time and how many lines she's had with Ogilvie, for example. So something is coming from,

for Joy. She's on her phone all the time. Many people have suggested that Dr. Jay is Joy, and not only that, but that she's some kind of like TikTok, Instagram influencer doctor. All of that adds up, and I think it's something that this show would be interested in tackling, too. Do you think it matters that she's not a doctor? Of course. I guess it doesn't matter on TikTok, maybe. Should we do that? Dr. Rob and Dr. Joe? Well, we shouldn't mention, we just recently launched an Instagram feed for this podcast. Thank you so much for saying it. I meant to say it at the top. We have an Instagram. What do you want to say about it? That we will be giving real medical diagnoses to anyone who messages us. And that's the

problem is for me to you, Kai. We're getting sued. Don't worry about it. So we are on both Instagram and TikTok, Prestige TV Pod. Yes. So please follow us on all those. Make Kai, Grady, our fave, our pal, look great at his job, which he is great at his job. Unquestionably. Make us look like real podcasters. So give it a follow. TikTok. medical advice from us could be coming soon, but you'll have to subscribe to find out.

I think it'll be invaluable to everyone involved. I think so too. Joy, I just want to shout out one of her line readings in this episode when they're talking about the potassium, and she goes, that's crazy low. I thought that was really funny.

She'd be a good TikTok doctor, I got to say. That's true. Everything about her affect may not play well in an ER in the moment when she's being quizzed on what is best for a patient. I think it would play well

of her social media though. I love this theory. All right. Our listener, Tina wrote in, just a quick fun note, the woman in season two episode one with a tiny purse dog and the giant Zipluck bags

of her husband's medicines was played by Sean Hattice's wife, Kelly Albanese or Albanese. So that's really exciting. And then the woman with the super glue eyelashes who said, Dr. Jay, that's Patrick Ball's partner,

Alicia Rohraback. So we're getting the wags on the pit. Where are the husbands? Where are the boyfriends? I would like to see them all that. Many people are wondering. But this is the market inefficiency in TV right now. You know, nobody wants this, did this to similar effect.

Like, hey, Leighton Meester, come on down. Sure. Like, let's just get, as you said, the wags involved. Yeah. But it does kind of signal to me that, you know, I was very interested in seeing those characters return with their giant Ziploc bags full of medicine. Maybe the reason they got so much screen time

is just because they're affiliated, unfortunately. You're calling them Nepo babies. I didn't say that. Okay. Well, I did. All right, I'm not. I think it was really sweet that they were on. Okay.

Cecilia wrote a really interesting long email about Nurse Hayes. and Dr. Robbie and the idea of Sad Boy Syndrome and basically I can fix him. Yeah. Anything you want to weigh in on this, Rob Mahoney? What would you have me weigh in on Joe? I don't know. Like, you can only call yourself out so much. Sad boy energy, I have no idea.

All right. Maggots and draining eggs. We talked about this for a long time. Folks seem to be confused by your assertion, Rob, that it's weird to keep the egg in the shell. How would it not be weird to keep the egg in the shell as you put it out in your yard? Most people think it's weirder to drain the egg out of the shell. Look, I don't know what to tell you.

Some of us in this particular way are more evolved than others. And this is the rare area where I would say those of us who grew up in Texas seem to have figured it out. And I say that mostly because of the association with the Mexican Texan community, which I think is where this stems from. Right. So several people wrote in asking about cascarones. Is that like something you have experience with? This is exactly it. Okay.

Yes. And so either you drain them yourselves or you buy them from a, Mexican supermarket. And you either, you know, you can either decorate the eggs in traditional fashion or in my extended family, it was like an all-out war in the yard in which these eggs are filled with confetti and you're smashing them all over each other. Great. Okay, this, explains everything. We did not involve confetti with our Easter eggs. You should. What about violence? Was there violence? Well, maggots were involved. Also, our listener Lisa wrote in with the worst maggot story I've ever heard my entire life and it changed me forever. Lisa, you know what you did.

So I'm not going to share it. It's the worst thing I've ever read. You know what, Jill? We asked. We did. And the listeners did infest our inbox with just some genuinely horrifying visuals. I did enjoy reading them on a certain level. But did you enjoy like a commiseration?

Yes. Over your pain. Over your trauma. A lot of people have strong maggot reactions. Lisa's story has scarred me forever. Yes. And I won't share what it was. Lisa also, maybe this will help you understand where Lisa is coming from.

Lisa also shared this anecdote. We see a lot of extended erections and other sexual escapades in the ER. I have now witnessed three instances where men have gotten stuck inside women, and these poor souls have had to call 911, come in on a stretcher, stuck at the genitals. Unfortunately, two out of the three were married, but the person they were stuck with was not their spouse. I have questions. I don't know that they will be answered. Lisa might have answers.

She might. Someone else might to press thtyv at Spotify.com, Dr.sidebangs at gmail.com. Yeah. One last maggot note, Joe. We did get an email from Christine, who said that maggots in some, like, professionalized communities are known as disco rice. What? I think it's pretty self-expertory what that means.

I was just delighted by it. That's really tough for me to hear. Sorry. Our listener, Sarah, this is for you, my friend, Rodin asking if we had a nickname for Dr. Santos. She dishes them out. Yeah, she doesn't take them. It's a great point.

I was reminded that Lained in last season. season in a bitchy way called her Bright Spark. He did. But I actually really like that. Like Bright Spark instead less bitchily is kind of like what's wrong with Bright Spark. It's not bad. And also like not not a little bitially. You know, if you're going to be the person who makes up the nicknames, you do have to take it.

Huckleberry. It's a little bitchy. It has to come and go. And I do think Santos, to her credit, is getting a little better about finding her place within this staff and not just like bagging on people all the time. Yeah. I've really enjoyed her presence this season. I agree.

If you have a great nickname for Dr. Santos, that is Prestiase TV. Spotify.com or Dr.sidemangs at gmail.com. Big picture question for you, Rob Mahoney. It's 9 a.m. Noah Wiley wrote this episode ever heard of him. Vaguely familiar. Uda Bresovitz direct this episode. She's directing four episodes this season.

She's a co-exec producer. So that's almost like my math is bad. Nearly a third of the season. Yeah. Right? We just talked about her recently because she directed the Attila episode of Severance. She did. And she also, when we talked about that, I mentioned, she directed my favorite episode of West World Kiksuya. So I will always bring up Kiksuya when we talk about this particular

director. But like, okay, Noah Wiley wrote it, Uda directed it. Did you like it? I really did. Okay, tell me why. This show can do a lot of different things. There are a lot of balls in the air. There are many characters, so many storylines, so many cases. And I just found like two of the patient cases in this episode in specific, it just kind of fucking decked me. And with very limited screen time, I would say like first and foremost, like Mark and Nancy, who were in the car accident together and suffering their consequences each over the course of this episode, as they are struggling to express to each other in simultaneous moments of consciousness, how regretful they are about the fight they were in, like, precipitating the accident. Very tough, very invested in their story. Okay. And then Michael and Gretchen, aka the guy with the brain tumor who two episodes ago, we were like, skisketing.

scared of this guy because of how aggressive he was being towards Dr. Bangs. I can't even tell you how important these two characters and their weird, like, shades of regret over a relationship that may have disintegrated for reasons beyond any of their control. Yeah. And the way and how, like, how elegantly that is played and profoundly between these two actors in this episode in like three maybe minutes of screen time. I told you that I was going to ask you, like, if there was a moment that got to, like,

the most emotionally, would you say that? that it's Gretchen and her ex? I think it's them for sure. That's mine too. For me, it's this very specific idea that I think is conveyed here so well, which is what if the reason that the person you love became unrecognizable to you

was not because you fell out of love or drifted apart or even something you did or didn't do for each other, but just like there was a literal mass growing in this man's brain, and it changed the chemistry and the physiology of who he is. And reckoning with all of the layers of grief and regret that come with that

in this amount of time, in this space, I think it's just like fucking remarkable TV. It was devastating to me. Gretchen asking these questions of Dr. McKay, right? Like, could have this had been the reason. Dr. McKay responsibly saying perhaps, right? Perhaps. Gretchen leaving anyway,

because it's not like they're tearfully reunited, everything's going to be fine. Like, Gretchen's married to someone else. She's going to be married to someone else. Her life has moved on. But she has to deal with this idea that, you know, she's like, keep me as the emergency contact, but not like, I'm going to stick around the hospital and help him through this, you know? And that was like, that was really devastating to me. And then his performance also, and we sort of clocked us in the first episode because this was an actor I recognized.

So I was sort of like waiting for them to do something kind of special with him. But his delivery of like, you know, I heard you got married. Like, I hope he treats you well. to well, you deserve that. Yeah. Really got me. Really, really got me. What really needled me, Joe, was the, you didn't have to come, but I did.

Like, that's just an incredibly romantic gesture. Is that the industry you called it when you came? You know what? Slightly more warmth here. Yeah. But again, like to the credit of the performances, like to go from being so intimidating and erratic in a waiting room to being here and like the warmth that you're getting out of these characters in the shared history that's like,

it's so obvious. Like, I feel like this is one of those scenes where even if you took all the dialogue out, if you showed someone this on mute, like they would have a sense of who these characters are to each other. And that's a really powerful thing. I was less high on the episode overall. Like the Gresh and stuff really got me in there. A couple storylines that really, really got me.

But I would say there was a sense of like trying to hit a theme kind of hard in this episode where like a lot of the cases felt more related than they usually do. And then there was, I would say particularly, you know, I said last week, the Langdon stuff I'm really susceptible to. But when he's like quoting lengthy passages from a John O'Donohue book, like I just thought that was really, there were just some moments that were like very bizarre to me. So like. A random adult man. Like, I mean, just like memorizing an entire blessing about fatherhood so that you can then recite it at work. I mean, I understand that he's in recovery.

And there like there are things you do in recovery. but that was just like an odd, a really odd moment in a show that like doesn't usually strike those odd moments for me. So there were just like a couple of those in this episode that felt a little like a few screws were loose on the machinery. Extremely. I think this is maybe this is me excusing the show, but there's something about the pit where like I am willing to accept a certain element of like ham fistedness with the writing on this show that I'm not in other places. And I think it's maybe some of it's because they have to pack in. so much. And that sometimes they are just very emotionally direct. Like, for example, with Mark, you know, the man who's been in the car accident, who's been in and out of consciousness,

finally wakes up to find that his wife is now in surgery. And he has the like realization moment of like, oh, is this when everything comes into perspective? And the way that is written is like, again, they just say it. They just say it. But also I'm getting goosebumps from them saying it. So I don't know what it is about the layout of this show that makes me more forgiving of it in that way. And honestly, maybe it is the way it's grounded. Maybe it is the fact that, like, so much of the show is so intentionally trying to display what life in the ER is like that when they do get a little treakily, and they certainly do,

I'm just kind of cool with it. I'm just kind of cool with that register. I will say there was something about this episode. You know, the pit has always been good at bleeding one case into another or back, but this episode felt particularly filled with a character from this storyline is in the background, you know, like Mark sees what's happening with Kylie and her dad and her dad's girlfriend, and that's what really sort of inspires him to record this message with Dana, et cetera.

But we watch him, watching them. There's a triage sequence where we're just like following one character after another sort of through a shot. The woman who has dementia, Whitaker interacted with so much last episode, is in this episode, she doesn't have a storyline, but she's just like there in the background. So like that they've always done it, but it felt even more so in this episode. And that's a positive. Like I don't know if that was something Noah Wiley wrote into the script or if that's in the direction or some combination of the two.

But I really felt that sort of like the weave of the, like, I don't know if this is a terrible mixed metaphor. But like the screws felt loose on the machine. And yet at the same time, the weave felt really tight on the tapestry. Well, that is what happens to the loom, no? Sure. We're we're wevers. We know how that works. Without a doubt.

We did have a question from a listener, Tyler, who was asking if we wanted to share our most squeamish moment from each episode. I don't really have anything on the level of maggots as we had from last week. So I don't know if I can mash that this week, but it's something I'm really to keep in mind going forward. Yeah, I don't think there was a lot of physical squeamishness in this. If anything, I would say my most squeamish moment was watching Kylie's dad scream in his girlfriend Gina's face for absolutely no reason.

Turns out like, you know, maybe he isn't exactly what Santos supposed to he was, but he's just like a regular old grade A asshole. Let's talk about Kylie and her dad. Let's go there first since you brought us there. So actually before we talk about Kylie and her dad, I want to talk about something I really, really loved in this episode. And it's revealing something to me. I noted it during the Kylie sequence.

I think it's when Dylan and Santos walk at some point, the nurse Jesse is just in there, like playing with a ball, like sort of distracting Kylie. We also see in this episode Jesse is like checking in on Tony Chinchillo, the like security guy who comes in. Thank God he's here. Thank God Tony Chinchillo is here to protect us all. I like, I noted, I really like Jesse as a character and it's a really interesting kind of character. I don't know if this is like profound or not, but like he doesn't have a storyline. He's just always there in the background, like shouting out stats around.

And there's a number of nurses that are, but there's just like something about this time you spend in a space with a character like Jesse who's like, it sounds like an insult to call him like a wallpaper character, but he's just like part of the furniture in like a good way. Like Perla and Princess and Donnie all have like stories sort of attached. Mateo certainly did last season. For sure. That's not the function Jesse serves, but he just makes the whole place feel more real and alive to me. Does that make sense? Completely. And he gives us as an audience who's uninitiated in a lot of this stuff, like the gut check response of a correction, for example.

Like when a med student suggests something that's like way off base, you'll just see him in the background going, you know, that initial feedback, like he is kind of a temperature check on the show. Right. Who is right and wrong in this moment? What should we be feeling here if it's not immediately present? How is Jesse reacting? How was Jesse reacting? You could go very far watching The Pit, just watching Jesse. I love that.

Okay. So Kylie and her dad, Dylan, our social worker, tries to have. like a private moment with Kylie's dad, but Kylie's dad, like, no, let's have this conversation here. Yes. I do think it's really, I think it's interesting that Santos is wrong about this, which, you know, Robbie and Dylan were like, hey, slow your horses. Like, we don't know what the truth is.

Last season, Santos was, her gut was right about so many things. In this case, she's wrong. And we talk about that a lot of the pit that people should be right and should be wrong. Definitely. But I also like the added nuance of, and also this guy. He's a fucking asshole. I thought that was really interesting. Like, you're wrong and, like, you don't have to eat crow to him necessarily.

Right. But there is, like, a little bit of a come-upance in that. Like, there's a humbling in this moment for Santos. And I wouldn't be surprised if we see this as a theme throughout this season. You know, we talked last week, Joe, about the kind of gut versus AI elements of the show. Or kind of gut versus informational analysis or however you want to paint that debate. Yeah. And, like, this is a character who is going off, like, almost entirely gut, right?

like physical evidence, obviously, circumstantial evidence, personal experience, and it's all pointing her to say, it's probably this one distinct thing that I am very familiar with. And if we see characters kind of bumping up against that left and right, I think that would position the whole season an interesting way to kind of shape our opinions about what doctors should or shouldn't be doing in these circumstances. She has an interesting throwaway line when she's like being hard on herself about this misdiagnosis and she says, zebra, right? like you hear a hoof print,

hoof beats, you should think horses, but thinking zebras instead or something like that. I really nailed that analogy. Anyway, so like two things. One, Dana's involvement in breaking up this fight here with the coming in with the labs and the correct diagnosis, right? We got an email from a listener, Amarina. When talking about Dana, following up on Dana's storyline from last season,

and this listener wrote, I work around a lot of PTSD. in my field. It was incredibly subtle, but in Dana Evans' initial appearance in the first episode, before she clocks Robbie's bike, she seems to be showing some extremely subtle hypervigilance. By the way, she scans her surroundings seemingly on the lookout for any potential threats. I'm curious if we will see any other heightened PTSD responses as more crisis gets piled on later in the season. So, like, her, we saw her breakup fights in season one. It's something that Dana does. Another day at the office. Yeah, but I was wondering if there was like something

even a little bit more punchy about her in terms of de-escalating this particular moment. It did seem like maybe there was. And I want to get into this a little later with the Mrs. Covalenko kind of plot about the PTSD elements that the show is starting to dig into, which I think could kind of all dovetail together in the way that the pit often does.

But in these moments, having Dana not be the cooler head in some ways come off a little hotter under the collar than we're used to seeing her, I think is very stark. Because this is a character who kind of always has the answers, right? She's in some ways the most calm person in the entire ER. And so, yeah, it sticks out, for sure. I'm eager to see what they do with it and where it goes.

Literally, how do they have time for all this? I'm always fascinated to see how they juggle it. Last night, on Kylie's dad, Benny and his girlfriend. When she leaves, she says, happy Independence Day. And I believe she means it in the Martina McBride says, let freedom ring, right? There's no question that she does. And shout out to Gina.

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visit the website for full terms and conditions. Regina, like, call us, please. Let's go back to the beginning. Jackson Davis versus Tony Chinchillo. Okay. Jackson comes in, calling out, what my Googling, and that's great stuff. I think it's legal terminology.

Seems to be to me. Statutes, precedents. Various kinds. Yeah. And also stop talking to me. Yes. So are we, this is giving law student, right? He was taken at the campus library.

And skits, I'm not putting in the spoiler section because I'm not a doctor. Schizophrenia. I mean, definitely something that psychiatrics will be coming into contact with, I would think. Stop talking to me is like voices is schizophrenia to me. But I, again, I'm not a doctor. Someone who's having some kind of episode that clearly is unusual for him. It seems to be catching him by surprise as much. as anything else.

And yeah. Tony Chinchillo. Tony Chinchillo, vigilant, overly vigilant. This guy sucks. Absolutely sucks. I think he's already, look, early contender

for worst hang of the season, Tony Chinchillo, and we have been hanging with literal maggots. Yeah, Tony's using some really charming language here he calls this young man an animal, says junkie jungle,

like it's deeply fucked up. How did you enjoy the charming fantasy where the cops call out Tony for his shit when Jackson's Talks Green comes back. We live in a very fictional world. I don't know what to tell you. Yeah. Rallying the troops all around to say,

fuck this guy. Yeah, fuck this guy. Fuck this guy. I simply don't believe that it would happen that way in real life, but in this moment, I'm happy for it. Tony Chinchillo definitively sucks. worse than maggots. You heard it here first. mean to, like, pick this. No, I think you're right, though. Early, when they're sort of like knocking cases out, right?

They do a treat them and street them. And then they say, Langdon says pros from Dover. Did you look this up? I did look this up. Okay. So this is from the film, MASH. Yes. Right.

Okay. At least appears in it. Maybe it predates that. No, it's from, well. You think it originates from that? It's from the book. So in the book, Mash. Yeah.

A fictional book you may not have read. I assure you I have not. But Trapper John and Hawkeye are sort of like rock star doctors. in MASH are talking about being, are talking about golfing and a con. And it kind of got partially translated into the movie where we have Elliott Gould's character saying, like,

we're pros from Dover. And because only part of it from the book made its way into the movie, that got sort of misinterpreted by people to mean outside experts, consultants, like without understanding that he's referring to like a con he used to pull. But they got their golf clubs on anyway,

their golf pros. Pros from Dover, bottom line, is a mash movie reference. That is something I believe Noah Wiley born in 1971 would write. Yes.

But I don't believe that Frank Langdon born in 1989 would say. Nor do I. And I really don't think Donnie would give him an acknowledging fist bump to it. Like I just don't think

either those guys are film bros, but I could be wrong. First of all, I want to say this. I feel very qualified as a white guy to make this assertion. Yeah. Langdon with the least cool fist bump in the history of humanity.

Just... And he did it twice. Did it twice. Keeps going back to it. Very weird Langton episode. I think he's had quite an endearing start in some spots. You know, self-deprecation, a little poor pitiful me, sure. Yeah.

But, like, seems to be making some kind of effort to kind of work his way back into the mix and make the requisite apologies and kind of like take a step forward in his life. And then in this episode, it's like, I don't even know who this character is. I don't know what he's doing. I don't know what these jokes and these comments are. I don't know why he's, as we said, just like reciting entire bull. blessings off the dome. Right. The idea of like, we're dads. Like, Donnie's a new dad. It just didn't like, it just didn't feel very like deep to me. It felt very surface to me. It struck me as a

writer's room that said, okay, here's the two characters. What do they have in common? Their dad's. What could they possibly talk about? Okay, if you were born 1989 or later, by the way, that's my best guess because as you, as I texted you, I could not find a super accurate date of birth for Patrick Ball on the internet. But if you're born 1989 or later and you regularly quote the film, not the TV show, the film mash, and you already knew what the phrase pros from Dover met, press HD at Spotify.com. I would like to be corrected. I would like to have the figure wagged in my face about this. It was very odd to me. What I will say, and this is my film reference. By the way, I love the movie MASH. It's a great movie. Equally is good. The George

Clooney Joint One Fine Day. Have you seen it? I've never seen it. In that movie, a child gets a bead stuck up, or it might be a Lego. Something stuck up their nose and they have to go to the doctor and they're like, the parents are talking about how like this is a common occurrence of people, that like children put things up their nose. And it's like I've always lived in fear of being in charge of a child who randomly shoves something, be it a Lego or a bead or whatever up their nose. It's just where human ingenuity takes you as a child, you know?

Does this go up my nose? One wonders and one has to find out. Mrs. Covalenko. What do you want to say about this? To our previous conversation, clearly there is like a priming of a PTSD awareness. Right. And like hypervigilance, like in Dana's case, I mean, that seems like part of the job description for a lot of these people working in this space where you just have to be aware of everything

and all these patients at all times. But everyone here has been through an incredibly traumatic event together. Everyone working at the pit, I mean. Right. The mass casualty event of season one. And so we know that they're basically in almost mandatory therapy that they're being, that they're required to talk to somebody as a result of this,

I would think this season will reckon with it in some way or another, whether it's with Dana or another character. Using those ideas here, I think, make a lot of sense. And having someone come in with all of this past trauma that is hyper-localized, that is very specific, makes a lot of sense. More broadly, I would say I'm like of two minds

about the Mrs. Covalenko stuff. One, I think the pit makes a really honest effort to tell us and show us what living and working in Pittsburgh is like. I almost did a like Pittsburgh history section. Right. To have the Tree of Life synagogue shooting,

which is this very traumatic event that happened in Pittsburgh. And then also, I mean, feels odd to group them, but like we get a firework history lesson. And like last season we got like sort of the ambulance history. You know, that there are like various like this is what it means to be from Pittsburgh sort of moments.

Yeah. And even every reference is like this is an actual deli in Pittsburgh. Like this is the supermarket you would go to. It's like it all feels. Again, very earnest. I'm not saying they bat like a thousand on it, but it seems like they're really trying. And so I appreciate that,

especially in the respect of like the Tree of Life shooting, this is the kind of like targeted perpetrated hate crime that looms large over a community for a long, long time. And so people will walk in the door with the baggage of something like that for a while. That makes total sense to me. On the other hand, this was the closest the show has ever come to feeling like the newsroom for me.

And I don't mean that as a compliment. You rarely do. It's one of those things. where it's really not subject matter, it's execution. Yeah. And when you're weaving really delicate, really tragic real life events into the drama and sometimes mellow drama of the pit, be very careful about how you do it. I'm not saying they did anything wrong.

I'm not saying they like stepped on any particular problem area. Yeah, but there's something like quite sorkiny about like we're going to have Perla in here. Right. And then we're going to have this conversation about the Muslim community and the Tree of Life Synagogue. Like I really like Ms. Covalenko as a character a lot. The performance was so good. A delightful performance. Giving like Robbie shit, her being like your single, where do you work?

Like, you know, not wanting to talk about her, the horrifying burn on her leg at all. Coding it in honey. She's like, more importantly, are you single? Right. Like, where do you worship? All of this sort of stuff. I really liked her a lot. I agree with you.

Like, I think it's especially like fireworks 4th of July. Like let's talk about the way in which that is like completely a different kind of stress. Yeah. for people who have been through something like this. And I think all of that is really interesting. And then, like, there are just like a few steps further down the road that they took it, which again, like sort of similar to... It just felt like throughout this episode, people are just saying the thing.

They are saying the thing a lot. You know, a lot. Yes. And this was one area where it just didn't work for me. And maybe it was in context. I'm already processing so much of the saying of the other things very directly that this was one too many. But yeah, something about these scenes, again, separate the performance, which I agree was one.

And very funny in spots and very touching in spots. Something about the balance of it just didn't work for me. Right. I really like the idea of this. And I didn't love the entirety of the execution. I guess that's what I would say. I think that's totally fair. Digby.

Okay. So we get another like check in with Digby, just Digby, not Mr. Digby, with Emma and Dana, sort of wanting to check back in within helping him. Dana talking about like we continually just like repeatedly offer help just so that they know we will always offer and we are always here. We did get an email for my listener, Alex, who was like, hey, man, when you were, like, focusing on how, like, squicked out you were by the maggots, you missed this important character moment where Digby, as a character, was, like, looking so vulnerable about, and I literally did not see it because I was literally so excited about the maggots. So I apologize, I literally did miss this, but Alex's description, and I didn't go back and watch it because I'm sorry I couldn't, but, like, Alex's description of the vulnerability. And this is, like, another, I don't want to hit this.

too hard, live out with the pit because the pit is for everyone. But the empathy that these doctors have for people in their care is one of the best parts about the pit. And so like the way in which Dana is very like no nonsense, here's the guy, we're going to burn his clothes. It's like all of this stuff is going on. But we're just going to give him what dignity, like as much dignity as he deserves, which is all the dignity in the world. And so that is like how you want them to be treating all their patients, and we see the med student class usually, like, learning this lesson, you know, what does a Louis, like, get from a Whitaker versus an Obelie or a Joy, you know, like, that's the question.

And yeah, you see all those characters taking their cues from Dana, taking their cues from Robbie. And there's kind of that funny moment with Joy and Robbie in this where, like, she's wondering, are we going to take our moment of silence for this fallen motorcyclist? And it's like, you have to triage the emotions, too, in a lot of senses, right? like that can wait and we will have those times and we're going to be direct and compassionate in kind of alternating fashion right like sometimes you just have to take this stuff head on and I think no one encapsulates that better than Dana like she is as you said like exactly as straightforward as

she needs to be and exactly as comforting as she needs to be and something about the way she put that as you mentioned jove like that we're going to keep offering I think there's so many barriers to healthcare in this country there's so many barriers and I don't say that just systemically but like the shame involved in people getting the kind of treatment they need. The internalized, like, macho, like, I don't need to see a doctor. We just absorb so much that prevents us from doing the things proactively that we need to do to take care of ourselves. And there's something about just like, we're just going to keep saying it over and over,

especially for people that probably don't get offered things over and over that often, that I just found to be incredibly sweet, like a really, and it's just a really trenchant idea of why these systems could, and should work. Yeah. And like, listen, you know, like, I've been a little tough on Robbie a bit this season, but, like, again, to go back to the Mrs. Covalenko scene, like, you know, his gentle treatment of her, I thought was really beautiful.

Like, that care. Yeah. That, like, gentleness. And I love the way, too, with Robbie. It's not the way every actor would play it. And I think I would have to imagine some of this is Noah Eilene. And, of course, like, given his involvement in the writing of this episode, there's kind of a dual-pronged approach there.

the way he walks in and his first interactions with Mrs. Covalenko are him and a monitor. Right, back turn to her. Back turn to her. Paying attention to her, but only so much attention to her, like going through the motions, doing the process. And it's like with every word, you can feel him kind of settling into what sort of conversation this is going to be. And never more heavily than when she mentions Tree of Life. But it really extends to every part of their interaction together.

Yeah. To go back to the motorcycle accident, really strong fully. on the peeling back of the reveal of the brain matter. Yeah, that was probably the gnarliest. Yeah, I did look, but I wanted to not hear that what do you make of Robbie lying and saying that he wears his helmet? Very interesting. Like, clearly doesn't care enough to wear the helmet, but cares enough to want the appearance and not have to answer the questions about not wearing the helmet.

One of our listeners pointed out that Robbie doesn't wear the helmet, but he carried the helmet inside with him. This was Ginny who emailed us about that. like incredible observation. There's like theater to this for Robbie. I thought that was really interesting. I mean, speaking of going through the motions. Yeah. It's like, is it a death wish?

Is it walking a line of a kind of like vulnerability? Like who knows what it is for him? It's clearly he already was dealing with a lot even before season one. But it does say something when it's like, it's like conspiracy to commit. You know, it's like he's going the extra step to pretend to be kind of okay. Right. Even though everyone knows he's not okay. And so then who are you doing that performance for?

Perhaps to your point to stop them from asking questions of you. I do think it's interesting to go back to what you're saying about the barrier of entry for so many people in terms of getting the care that they need. And how those people often wind up in the ER because they've let something go until it's an emergency, right? But I love how that applies to your Robbies and your Santos is who are like refusing to get therapy that they need. you know, a physician heal they self sort of thing where it's like even people inside

the medical community will ignore a problem until it explodes. So I thought that was interesting. They are but flawed, fucked up human beings who are full of hypocrisy like the rest of us.

I'm happy to report. Here's the question on the Mark and Nancy Yie storyline. And this is something that I thought about in season one but I haven't officially asked our medical community listeners.

So please email us, Are loved ones allowed in the trauma rooms as often as they come in on the pit? Like, Nancy's in there. You know, and sometimes they'll have like a nurse guide them out. But I was just like sort of surprised that they're even allowed. Like, especially I think that's trauma room one or whatever. Like the main one that's right there where usually shit is very bad. Is your loved one allowed in there?

I was thinking about this with like in season one with a little girl who drowns and like her entire family. Like when they're certain. there's nothing they can do. The entire family being in there makes sense to me. But then there's like, they're doing emergency measures sort of around loved ones sometime in a way that I'm just like, is that, I don't know. Does that happen?

I'm asking questions. It feels like by policy, probably not. Shouldn't. And in the reality of the moment might happen sometimes. In this case, it's like Nancy is outside looking in until they stabilize her husband. And then they bring her in to kind of tell her about the scans that they're going to run to figure out

why he's not responding and why why he appears to be paralyzed, and then everything kind of kicks into gear. So it's like she just, I think, is in the wrong place at the wrong time, but you're right. Like, in reality, someone probably ushers her out of the room in that moment. Right. Okay. Also something I thought was super interesting inside the Yee storyline is this little moment where Robbie backs up Samira when Garcia is giving them shit.

Definitely. Like, why didn't you look at Nancy? You should have done this, you know, and Robbie sort of steps in to help Samira. We got this interesting email from Lucas who wrote, I had a thought listening to the first podcast for the season about Dr. Robbie and Dr. Mohan Samira. I thought an important moment of season one was when Robbie put Mohan on the red team during the mass casualty event, signifying that even though he was hard on her consistently, he knows she's one of the best doctors in the ER.

So I love that, like, that we saw Robbie really hard on Mohan in season one, but there are ways in which he does like consistently, not consistently, inconsistently have the backs of the people on his team. Selectively. Yeah, selectively. go. And I just, I really liked that moment when he just like was there for her. Totally agree. When Garcia was being an asshole like she likes to do.

And that's representative of where she is. Like I do trust Samira Mohan's judgment basically above and beyond almost anyone who isn't Robbie as far as the doctors are concerned. Like she has a good head on her shoulders. This was her whole arc in the first season was kind of bringing all of these sides of her experience and expertise together and becoming this really balanced, really efficient, but also like really empathetic doctor. and the level of detail that she's able to bring,

I think it's just very different than what you would get, even from Langdon at his best medicinal moments. Stay at the pit, Samira. Don't go to New Jersey. Please. I would be honestly devastated if she is gone from season three. I know. If this just turns into the kind of show where, like, true to life,

doctors are coming in out of the hospital. Like, that's just what happens. Right. It would make me very upset personally. So please do not. Don't upset Rob. Speaking of upsetting, Rob, Rob, how did you feel? We talked about this a little bit pre-profile.

pod. Yeah. Mr. Montrose, a very amorous Walmart greeter who has busted his tailbone in some way. Yeah. Hitting on our girl, Dr. Banks, calls her Dr. Hazelais. How did you feel about this? It's just rude. Yeah.

That's not her name. Felt called out by the staff. Noah Wiley knows that you called her Dr. Banks and he wrote Dr. Hazelais into the script instead. I don't mean to presuppose. But I like to think that we as a collective came to the understanding that she was Dr. together. That's just one of these things that we all reached

into the ether of our shared consciousness. It's like, this is obviously what this character's name is. Montrose is played by Michael Norrie, who has been around

for a really long time, but like, speaking of fans of the original MASH film, this is the hottie from Flash Dance. Like, he is a famous

80s hotties hotties. So to cast famous 80s haughty Michael Norrie, who, we should be clear, landed Jennifer Beals in her Flash

Dance dance. era. That's that's uh, that's a, that's a quite the achievement. And he is quite a charmer. Is here just like laying on quite thick with Dr. McKay? It works. Yeah. I got to say. Like it is very charming. And I think she she kind of takes it in the spirit in which it's intended. Right. It's like we're having a laugh. Yeah. Like he knows what he's doing. I know what he's doing. Like there's a compatibility to that that makes sense. Now this other guy chiming in from the sidelines like this is Brian Hancock is the. Patience's name, played by Lawrence Robinson, no relation.

Loves her witches cackle. He does. Is just laying on quite thick himself, even though he's immobile. Montrose can dance with her and sing La Mare to her if he wants to. This guy's just shooting his shot consistently from the corner of the frame. If he can get her attention, he will. We talked previously when fucking Boba guy was hitting on Mel. We got emails from listeners being like,

don't date your patients, but are you into Dr. McKay and Brian Hancock? Well, first of all, I think we need to rename Boba Guy. Like, I think he's just Liquor Store Bandit at this point or something to that effect. He has lost Boba Guy privileges. Wait, wait, is it number one Tony Chinchillo, number two, Bobo Guy, number three, maggots? Here's the thing. Boba Guy slash the Liquor Store Bandit, I think has an appeal in like an I'm being worked sort of way. Sure.

You know, like a con man kind of charisma. Right. Where Tony Tinchilla is just constantly, oh, brother. That guy just sucks. Again, everyone agrees. Every nurse is looking at him sideways. It's so clear immediately how much he sucks. He's like, I got to watch him.

Yeah, I got to stay here and document this. Yes. But, yeah, I'm eager to see kind of what they do with Dr. Bangs in this moment. Dr. Bings, who has said, for the record, I am quite like, I am ready to Dr. Bang. And this guy's like, I am also ready. I'm ready to swoop those side bangs, baby. I am here for you.

I am interested. I'm qualified. I am ready. In theory. We'll see how she responds to him. So far, it's like, again, she's kind of entertaining it to keep moving. She's like, sure, sure. Yes.

Yeah, okay. But we do appreciate, even as he's watching her be wheeled around the ER floor, he doesn't seem very threatened to buy any of this. You know, he's just watching from the sidelines respectfully, getting his comments in when he can. Save a dance for me. I think he's playing his cards. Well, is he playing his cards? in a way that will be legally fulfilling for all involved?

It seems not, but crazier things have happened on the pit. Tune in to find out. Speaking of Pittsburgh history, let's talk about Louis and fireworks history. What was the Pittsburgh history in that? Does Dr. Bangs being about town? Why did I say speaking of, I don't know. Great question. How dare you push for my segue is?

Honestly, how dare you? Okay. Louis is still draining. He loves fireworks and he mentions Mr. Zambelly. Yes. And I got to say, I got really excited. because we got a very long email about Mr. Zembelli from a listener like a couple weeks ago. We sure did.

Because we were asking about fireworks in Pittsburgh and our listener, Kristen, delivered. I'm, Kai, you are welcome to cut some of this. I'm going to read this entire email because I couldn't figure out how to cut it down. It's so good to me. It's full of information. We love information. I want the background. And frankly, I am charmed by the times that the pit itself turns into a Wikipedia page.

And so that our podcasts could follow suit accordingly, I think we have to do it. Here we go. Buckle up for some firework history in Pennsylvania. Newcastle, Pennsylvania, population 21,000, is called the fireworks capital of America and is only 50 miles outside the city. Newcastle is home to both Zambelli fireworks, the oldest and one of the largest fireworks manufacturers in the U.S. and Pyrotechnico, the largest provider of large-scale fireworks displays in the U.S. Newcastle, Newcastle Pennsylvania has a hospital, and I just love, Kristen has like gone, deep. She's like, Newcastle has a hospital. It's only a level to trauma center. So a large-scale fireworks accident would be sending folks to the level one trauma centers in Pittsburgh and Youngstown.

And Youngstown, she says, doesn't even have a burn unit. Seems like a mistake. All right. Pittsburghers will find any excuse to set off fireworks, both large-scale displays and in our backyards. And Fourth of July is a really big deal. The city puts on a huge fireworks display that rivals the ones in much larger cities. Kristen says she lives in a high spot in her area and from her yard she can see three suburban fireworks displays. To give an idea of the, I'm sorry, this is all fascinating to me, to give an idea of the level of municipal fireworks displays around the area, her suburb, population 33,000, spends between

65 and 70,000 on their Fourth of July celebration. And the city spends 350,000 for its celebration. But she mentions that the big, big fireworks display in Pittsburgh is off a barge in the water, I believe. And she also mentioned that to get to the park where you watch this, why are you laughing at my fireworks history? I'm not laughing. I'm delighted by your joy. I'm delighted by, I just have never. I just like knowing this.

I have never clocked a Joanna Robinson listener more than Kristen. Like this is just such an email that would come to one of the shows that you host first and foremost. I mean that is a sincere compliment to you both. What does that mean? I just think there is a level of detail and there is a level of lore here that is who you are. And Kristen clearly identified that, swooped in with the very specific regional knowledge that you needed to understand the fireworks, like, overall landscape of Greater Pittsburgh. She's crunching numbers. She's got budgets. She's got populations. She's got it all. She's got everything I need. Kristen, thank you.

The point is there's one narrow bridge that goes to this park where they watch the fireworks launch from the barge. And she's about 30 to 40,000 of the folks who go down to the city fireworks. show watch it from the point, and she said people will be crushed if a launch went wrong, and yinzers are going to yin's. She's like, will there be like a mass stampede event and a fireworks show goes wrong, something like that? We've been wondering, like, what will be the firework impact? We already got this moment with Mrs. Kobolenko.

We get the Zembelli fireworks drop. Kristen, thank you so much for filling my life. I know so much about, this is what I asked for. It's true. And I got, she has way more information. Last but not least, there's something called Phantom Fireworks Tense that are like the Spirit Halloween of fireworks. and so they, like, crop up all over the place

and this is where you can get your fireworks in Pittsburgh, like, on the corner. Yes. It's the only way to get fireworks anywhere. If it is a brick and mortar structure, I would never buy fireworks. Oh, really? Okay. Definitely not. Like a roadside stand sort of situation?

Absolutely. I've never bought illegal fireworks, so. Well, these are legal fireworks, Joe. Don't project that on us. Last one least, Kristen says, Fourth of July is a bigger drinking day than your New Year's Eve in these parts. So I fully expect to see a lot of drunk yinsers with burns and missing fingers in the pit, which we've been expecting.

thank you so much the pit for just saying the words Zambeli which gave me an excuse to read this thing that might get edited fully out of the show. I don't know. Kai might have a better head than I do, but that is what I wanted to share with you, Rob Mahoney. Also thanks to Louie in conjunction for the line,

y'all don't know nothing about pyrotechnics, which we do now. Yeah. I also love that Whitaker was trying to sort of glad hand him and he's like, no more talking. Fix his fucking deal. We're done with this portion. of the exam

where I tell you charming anecdotes about my life This is fucking too This man numbed up Please Yeah All right

We already talked about Mr. Williams And his ex-wife Gretchen The Hanson stuff What do you want to say About the Hanson fam Of all the fucked up things

We've seen on this show Medpooling The pill pile Is deranged Who would think this is a good idea? Pool in meds is how we've always done it He says Oh my God

This is a really Light Mel episode Maybe that's why it wasn't my most enchanting experience because I love Mel so much. But she gets to like FaceTime with them to like sort of see if she can figure out which pill it is. Anything else you want to say about that? Are we going to see more Hansons as the day go on? I wouldn't mind it. You know, they do have that kind of like weird sitcom family that pops in as a recurring bit.

Your neighbors, your wacky neighbors, the Hansons. I would love them to hang around at some capacity. Or just like one more family member keeps like treacleing in the, door. They never leave because there's just another person injured. I think that would be great. And they have to find them a room off to the side just to fit everybody by the end of the day. I think it could be great. I gotta say I'm really disappointed with our listeners who have we got so many maggot emails, not a single Ramekin email. Nobody's writing in with any of the Ramekin deals. Actually, one person. We did get one. I was like we did because somebody suggested specifically, I'm so sorry I don't have the name off top of my head to go to secondhand stores to load up on the Ramekans. How do you feel about that advice? I think it's great advice. But this is where my OCD color coordination, comes in direct contact with pragmatic rob. I need the set. I need it to fit. I need it to make sense.

But I also need ramekins of many different sizes to fit my suflay needs. So what are you supposed to do? What is the color scheme of your dishware? I don't have to answer that. Are you an all white person? No, there is a lot of white for the neutrality. And then it's kind of like,

there's some dark black gray plate wear. Okay, but no pop of color. Oh, no, it's like splashes of, I'm trying to think of the exact shade of blue, kind of a blue-green situation. Okay. Not quite full-teal, a little more blue than that. Is that your Lake Crusoe color is the sort of like...

My Lake Crusoe life is chaotic. There's a little bit of that blue. There's a little bit of the pure red. I kind of like having it where it's like, that's the red crock pot. Sorry, that's the red Dutch oven, you know? Yeah, yeah. The red and the like flame orange. The flame orange is nice.

Yeah, yeah. That's nice. Okay, well, if you are out and about and you see a deal on some ramekins in a white, hit me up, black, or blue-green. color neutrals. You know, we're into the neutrals. Okay. All right, Rob. I don't want to pop with a ramekin. That's not what it's for. I disagree. I think a ramekin because it's such like a cute little thing in your kitchen, that's where you could really go a little wild with some color. You could have a red ramekin, I think. I feel like if you're going to do a statement, you make the statement. You don't pick like the smallest piece of furniture to make brightly colored. Do you have a butter warmer?

I don't have a butter warmer. I do have a butter warmer and it is red. Okay. Welcome to our podcast about the pill. Dr. Al and Robbie. This is my et cetera section. Very little on this, but we get this exchange where Robbie says, I got to say, a bit bitchily, splitting up so soon, and she says, I'm looking for cooperation, not commitment,

which I thought was a great response. How did you feel about this exchange? I thought it was wonderful. I'm just aghast that they let this woman be charming. She was also very nice to Nancy Yee. I know. She had that like warmth to her that you were looking for from her. You were like smile, as you were always saying to female characters, smile more.

Okay, don't do that to me. Clive it for social. My point is simply, they gave this woman like two lines and one joke. Yeah. And I'm like very charmed. Okay, you're in. I wouldn't say I'm in, but like some of my concern about where this character could be going is diminishes by the fact that like she can, she is capable of cracking a job. If she drops her AI devices in the garbage, are you in?

Absolutely. Yeah, you're all in. I'm completely in at that point. I just want to see her have human interactions with other people. And this was one of the first ones we've seen all season. Speaking of human interactions, and that was a proper segue, thank you so much. Dana kicks Ogilvie out of her chair in a way that I really enjoyed. Ogilvy continue.

It's like Tony Chichillo, Boba Guy, maggots, Ogilvy. That's where I am right now. He's just trying way too hard. And this is another vital role that Samir Mohan plays on this show is like she is often the like continued eye roller in chief. And this is aimed in Javadi's direction as well. But they're like chorus of symptom listing and complication explaining in the face of absolutely no reason whatsoever to get into all that. I'm glad that she's there to at least set them straight in her silence. And that was surrounding her diabetic patient whose daughter is there and is like my mom's on the way.

So this is like an ongoing case that we will check. back in with, I assume. Definitely. Lupe apologizes to our deaf patient in the chair, that she's like, you know, we got an email from Lister being like, shouldn't this have been on her patient passport, like, to begin with. Flaw in the system. Flaw in the system. I didn't shout this up before.

Mrs. Kovolenko, later when Robbie says, she's turning my trip into a midlife crisis and all of the reactions we got from everyone to that. Phenomenal. Yeah. Burdened with incredible medical knowledge. Not a lot of self-awareness, Dr. Robbie. And then we get the hook into the next episode, right? The phone rings.

Is this the drill? Is this a joke? Got it. Thanks. Westbridge has a code black, diverting all its traffic to us. Amad's like, we got a new betting grid. Let's go. How do you feel about this as like a hook into the next episode?

Joe, I love a code. I simply love a code. I love the lingo. I love the jargon. I love that. Everyone knows, oh, the shit's about to get extra real. It's already been quite real. But there are levels to this.

I loved the betting pool. with the ambulance last season. I thought that was great. I'm not mad that we're running it back. If there's an ambulance, if there's like a betting pool in season three, will you be like enough now, enough? Or like how do you feel?

Maybe. I mean, look, this is the trick with these shows is they are built on repetition, right? Like they are built on these people living the same life and day over and over and over and having the experience

to know how to navigate it better the next time. So it's like, you kind of have to have some of that stuff. I just hope they find ways to jazz it up a little bit. Plus I love gambling. Last one at least,

Noah Wiley wrote this episode and he gave himself a like sitcom outro line where he goes, I should have left last night. Oh, brother. Here we go. I don't know about that one.

Not my fave. This is not my favorite episode of the PIP, but there was a lot to love and I'm really excited to see where we go next. There's a lot of cases. I'm like interested to find out what's going on with Jackson and like a lot of other patients.

Will Dr. McKay break her oath and go out with this hot guy. I think she should, honestly. Will there be sex fireworks for her tonight? You know? Our ED patient, no. No. Strictly bed rest. Dr. McKay? Dr. Banks? She's a grown woman. Do you think sex fireworks should be her new nickname? What do you think?

I think we have to wait and find out. All right. I hit an hour on the nose, but with edits it might be less than that. If Kai edits out that entire firework email, it might be less than that. I think he should stretch it out. I think that whole stretch should be like 0.5 speed. Let's really get into it. Let's let's look jure. Put those nine minutes for social. Everyone was going to love that real. Thank you, Rob Mahoney.

Thank you, Joe. Thanks for our listeners. Thanks to Kai Grady, who's just the best. Thanks to the pit. We'll be back with episode four. It's 10 a.m. What's going to happen? We'll find out next week.

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