The Prestige TV Podcast - ‘The White Lotus’ Season 3, Episode 2: Who’s Behind the Hotel Robbery?

Episode Date: February 24, 2025

Bill, Jo, and Mal compare biometrics to recap the second episode of ‘The White Lotus’ Season 3. They discuss their favorite moments, episode MVPs, and why Walton Goggins was the standout performer (1:51). Along the way, they break down the robbery sequence and Jason Isaacs’s questionable accent work (31:03). Later, they close with a handful of theories and predictions for what’s next (42:49). Email us! [e-mail] Subscribe to the Ringer TV YouTube channel here for full episodes of ‘The Prestige TV Podcast’ and so much more! Try Coffee mate Creamers Now: http://coffeemate.com Hosts: Bill Simmons, Joanna Robinson, and Mallory Rubin Producers: Kai Grady and Donnie Beacham Jr. Video Supervision: John Richter Additional Production Support: Justin Sayles Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello. Hello. I'm just, you look great, but you look tired. Yeah. It might be the drinking. The old doctor who. Doesn't she look tired? She looks tired.

Brutal. She looks tired. She knew and Mallory's always going after it, you know what I mean? I was going to say to you that your numbers seem like those of a man half your age. That's how I feel. It's what the working. It's all the walking. We are covering episode two White Lotus.

If you missed episode one, that it's already out there. Yeah. In the library and the archives, we have intentionally not been watching ahead. We've all made it packed. It's been very tough. Why'd you make a face? Have you watched ahead? No.

No, I never watch ahead. I actually hate watching ahead. I'm the problem. Joe's the problem. I'm the problem with her respects, but not as well. We taped episode one yesterday, and then we had to power watch twice episode two, and it's getting good. Your favorite thing about episode, too, Joe? Oh, Gagins getting to be a bit more Gagins.

Oh. Yeah. Gagins is back. Yeah. Great Rick episode. Yeah, yeah. That was mine, too, because it feels like now, okay, the ratlifts were really the stars of episode one. This was a big Rick Chelsea episode.

I'm expecting that episode three as a result will be Lari, Jacqueline, and Kate time. I have a cougars. I have a cougars. We can call them the fancy cougars. I have a cougars theory about why I feel great about calling them cougars. They're a fax predators. I love it.

Are they not? Yeah. And they're looking for the weakest one among them to sort of like pick off. It's wild. Oh, I like that. But yeah, Rick, like the dinner scene with Greg when he has Greg's number. She's me, Joanna.

He goes by Gary now. Okay. Imagine going into hiding for Thailand in a year and being like, you know, Greg, I know what I'll do. Greg's out. Gary's in. I would have gone like, like, I don't know, different first letter. What's your, what's your on the run day?

What you're going to hide under one day? No, but I want to hear him. But if I'm Greg, I'm going to like Mitchell or like something that doesn't sound remotely by Greg. I'm not just changing the last three letters. But you want to get her more fancy and be like aloecious or something like that? They'll never suspect it. No, that, well, for him, yeah, probably.

But even Michael, it's just anything. Yeah, Michael. Michael would have been totally acceptable. When he's talking to Gary, and he's like, what do you do, Gary? You know, that just like that Goggins smile came out and he's just sort of like this piece of shit. I recognize you. It was great.

Little this, little this, little that. Oh, I did a little this and a little that. So that was your favorite as well, Gagins? Yeah, it was just a thrill to have more time with Rick. And for the thing about Gagins, that's such a wonderful brew, is she likes to gently, lovingly mock me when my Baltimore accent comes out when I say brew. The menacing quality that's always under the surface, but the fact that you were so magnetically drawn to him, like, that was present with Rick in this episode. And the first episode, it was like, you're really actually just a dick to Chelsea, huh? And here, we got that, but, like, immediately followed by what struck me as, like, a wave of shame for calling her an idiot.

we see a lot more emotional range from him. And of course we learn the warm hug after the robbery. Yeah. Running to her and embracing her. Yeah. And of course we learned some backstory. Well, we talked in episode one is like what's the actual relationship with this? And we were debating like, is this like a prostitute he picked up or somebody who's running a bit with him?

You were debating it. Well, I didn't know if it was somebody hired because he's trying to do a mission. Well, Chloe we know. The Clio, we know. But you're right because Rick was like. I am very sure of what's going on here. Yes. He clocked it immediately.

But the Chelsea Rick relationship really. So good. Yeah. And then like we were like, when are we going to a sex scene? We get a sex scene in this episode. What did we? It seems like a prelude. It was a PG-13 sex scene.

Some nipple suckling. It was a boob grab. Yeah. Well, a little bit more than a grab. I think we should note. But yes. Walton Goggins, a 53-year-old man looks incredible shirtless. Wonderful.

Wonderful. Oh my God. And there just was like some really. tenderness, it felt like, between them there. So you understood their connection a bit better. Yeah. And she got a scrub and a wax. So she was ready.

She was ready. Scrub wax. This was the episode. I couldn't get a handle on our girl Amy Lou. First episode. She's very distinct looking. Yeah. Yeah.

So she's got the big teeth. That's like a big feature. And she's got this happy. And I was like, I don't know. But by episode two, I'm all in. You're in. She's great. Just a mega crush on her now.

And really worried. she's going to die at the end of this episode. She seems like a pure delight. She said twice in this episode, I almost died today. I just need the show to stop making us think about how Chelsea could or almost died. It's too stressful. She feels safe to me. I couldn't tell you why.

My favorite thing in the episode, The Cougars win again for me. Fantastic. Dave Jacoby's trust triangle in action. Dave Jacoby always had this thing. Our friend Dave Jacoby about there's something. three people, two are always closer than any other two in the triangle. And if you're going to tell, like, if I'm talking to you two, you two are super close. I'm also close to Mallory.

And there would be some trust triangle stuff with Mallory. But I think she'd side to you because you have a pod. But you just always have to keep the trust triangle in mind. If I tell Mallory something, will she pass it along? Who is she closer to? And in this case... Oh, the dynamics... This is so complicated.

What a rich supply. Well, in this case... She's definitely the Kate. I feel like in a triangle there's always like a hinge. You know what I mean? Well, he's the Jacqueline. Of course. No, but here's the thing.

In the trust triangle, I don't think... Tired. But I don't think... Larry, that's why I do the past. I don't think anyone trusts anybody more than anyone else. That's what made this so interesting. It's like, whatever two are left alone, they're going to talk shit about the one who's not there,

and that's what we have established now. I'm interested to see Lori and Jacqueline if they go after Kate, which there's plenty to go after. But I just thought in both of those scenarios, That would be episode three. You're kidding? I hope so. But both those scenarios, my favorite person to watch in both those scenarios was Leslie Bibb as Kate.

Because there was just something about her like feline smile when she's just sort of like, well. You know, and she's just like so excited to dig in, like all couched in concern. And all, oh, my God. Big fake smile. Yeah. I got to be honest, I didn't know she was this good of an actress. She's great. She's like kind of a monster performance by her so far.

I feel like this is part of White Lotus's genius. It's like sometimes you see someone who you've seen in a ton of things. And then Mike White is like, no, I know exactly what to do with his energy. Yeah. I have a great idea for this. I mean, the most fun scene with her was the Parker Posey scene at the brunch. That was the scene of the episode. I agree.

I agree. Because, I mean, Parker Posey also tremendous in that. I don't know how they film that without like laughing. Her catatonic smile or just sort of like squinting and smiling. Oh my God. That is such a power move. Could you ever pull that at a restaurant or have you? Some because up to you is like, do you remember we spent a weekend together in Austin and you just smile at them silently?

Just really trying to enjoy my lovely fruit plate here. Just like chimpound fruit right now. That was so fascinating. Like she did have a beat of what I thought was nervous energy. Like there's obviously a, okay, I just am not interested. I'm here with my family that's on the surface because she's saying it to them after. But it seems like maybe she did something that weekend that she doesn't want Kate to share. Maybe my interpretation is that she doesn't remember.

Because she's just zonked out on drugs. Because she's zonked out on drugs all the time. And it's one of those like nervous covers. Right. For I don't remember you. I spent an entire weekend with you. Oh, wasn't your hair different? And then you're a little embarrassed so you're like kind of bitchy about it.

Yeah. You know what I mean? And then you sort of laugh it off with your family and say like actresses are prostitutes and just sort of trying to cover. That was also a great moment for all of the actors at the table. Yeah. The number of like meta commentary moments through these two episodes so far. And this cast is really. really game. Like they're really down both in the macro and the specific things about them that they

know maybe people have whispered or said. We talked about this off mic. And then it's like, we got to bring it on mic in this episode because it was so central to the text. Like the conversations are just all about these things. And the, I mean, you can't cast these roles unless the performers are like willing to participate actively in those conversations. For Walton Gong is to be like, I'm not going bald. And Amy Louie's character being like, okay. Or then talking about, oh, she had a little bit more than the basics done. She's sandblasted. She looks waxy. Looks a little waxy. Yeah.

She looks great. Everyone looks amazing. She looks great. Yeah, yeah. I guess we can go through and dip through some of the major moments. The Cougar's talking about Carrie Coon when she wasn't there. Yeah. Dude, this was savage. So we learned we learned she got

divorced from a freeloader. Yep. Has to pay al-money. Has to pay al-money. We learned her daughter is violent. Yes. meeting Wesley Bant to start bashing the New York City school system. She throws furniture and how do you raise your kid in New York because they're all like sucking each other off at eight years old.

Yeah, but that happens in Texas too. The kids are sucking each other off at eight years old. It's in the running for best line of the season so far. But I love... Actually, I cannot wait for them to turn on her on Kate because Kate's little monologue about how she talked herself into liking beans is maybe one of my favorite things I've ever seen. That was...

Well, so more back can of compliments. Yeah. She always defined herself by her work. Yeah, brutal. Didn't get the big promotion. No wonder she looks defeated. Well, she looks great. Yeah, she does.

She also looks tired. Maybe it's the drinking. They're just fucking... Everything. Everything. And then all of a sudden she shows up and they have to pretend they weren't talking about her. Shut up. Genuine jump scare.

Genuine jump scare. She goes up until locked door hammered. But here's the question. Do you think she heard them? I don't. I don't think she heard them, though. Obviously, she suspects that they're talking about her just from having, like, watched them previously.

And then we get that nice bookend of Jacqueline at the end, hearing them whispering. And she just, we don't know if she can make out what they're saying, but it doesn't matter. She knows they're talking. It's like the exact thing you say, whenever one member of that group leaves the room, they know the other person is talking about them. What's fascinating about Jacqueline? Herce. You mean Jacqueline Lemon TV star?

I loved that we got the full name. Jacqueline Lemon is wonderful. Wonderful. That she didn't creep up to listen to what they were saying. Yeah. And I think it speaks to like psychology. At the end you're talking about it. Yeah, at the end, she's like, they're whispering.

Obviously, they're whispering about me. Obviously, they would be jealous of me and talk about me while I'm not there. Yeah, I'm going to go take a bath. Yeah. Oh, okay. They must be talking about how great I look. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

It's interesting. And I feel like the through line in all of the different versions of the trust triangle so far is like concern. But it's, it's hot goss. Like, they just can't wait to spill the tea. masqueraded as concern. This is so human though. I don't know. Like, I've experienced this inside of, like, I don't know if it's cross-a-gender, but definitely inside of female friendships. For sure. Where it's just this sort of like, this shit-talking couched as concern. Yeah. And, but there's that sort of like- What do you think is going on with this bitch? I really hope she's like, okay. I'm sure she's fine. She'll be okay. She's a survivor. But there's the giddiness.

Survivor. Yeah, but there's like a giddiness that comes to it. It's, it's gross. Let me tell you something. I've been with my wife a long time since 1998. This was familiar. And I've also dated other girls before her. Yeah. This was always my favorite thing about dating somebody is listening to that dynamic of all of these relationships. Yeah. And especially if the group gets bigger, like in college, you have these groups of like 12, 13 girls. And there's like five different clicks that all hate each other.

And then within the little clicks, there's drama going on. It's amazing. There's like, it's that specific. No, I love her, but. Right. But it's the that, that, that, that. They have really mastered in these two. episode so far. It's like not even a full beat. It's a half beat. Right? Before they either

finally jump in, it's like, oh, I'm reluctant to take the bite. No, I'm going to make a whole meal out of it and dive right in or the inverse of that. The vanity. There's some friends that just will not go there, though. My wife has definitely had a couple over the years that it's like, if the shit talking's around, they're just out. They're like, you're like this actually. You're not a shit talker. No, I try not. If they're shit talker, you're just out. You're listening, but you're not saying anything. So this is what's interesting about this is like, and I've been trying to think about their dynamic of we don't have a lot of time with them so far but it's like why are these people choosing to spend time together right i'm at the point of my life genuinely you've both heard me

say a version that's where i'm like i kind of like don't feel like i need new friends like it's wonderful when i make a new friend but i like want to spend time with people i genuinely care about is joanna your last new friend oh my god i got it before you close the door yeah it's entirely possible i'll have to think about it it's entirely possible i've like known each other for like seven years and very well for four years. So I've probably made at least one new friend since them, but I might not have. I'll have to reflect on it.

I feel like when you don't leave your house, you don't need to make a lot of friends. That's true. So, you know, they can't really like... She met the postmates guy. Yeah.

Well, no. I mean, Adam usually answers the door. Honestly, I've not met any of them. The, oh, you can't really make new memories when you only have dinner twice a year. And then Jacqueline's like,

I mean, I haven't really even seen Lari in four years. Why are they here telling themselves how much they care about each other? It's amazing. I have surely a different reason for that. Like for Jacqueline, it feels like it's, this is how I tether myself to some sense of like, I'm still a regular, normal person, but also those people who make me feel that way are

going to tell me how great I am and make me feel special. I think it's the opposite. That's the relationship that lets her feel both of those things. I think she wants to feel like the most beautiful, rich, famous around her, like, I mean, my sense is that Kate is also enormously wealthy, but like, her insecurity inside of this relationship she has with this guy that she's obsessed with who's 10 years younger than her, but she's feeling insecure. She wants to be around people who are normal so she can feel special.

I agree, Joanna, I think. Well, there's also, there's the baggage of these people all grew up together. So they had to compete in a whole bunch of different ways at a younger age. I like that it's like she's telling all the rich and famous and people around her were making shows with her, they're, no, yeah, I'm just going to hang out with my friends from home. But then when she's with them, she gets to feel special. So it's like it's the one relationship in her life. presumably that still allows her, like, access all of that?

No, but there's one other piece of that, though. These are the people that knew her before anything happened to her. Right. So you're always going to have a different relationship with people that knew you and whatever. Yeah. Right? So now she's this famous actress. She has a manager, an agent.

She has all the people on the show. She's all these, like, fake Hollywood friends. But these people, hypothetically, in her head, these are the ones that know me for me. And yet, she's just as fake with them. They're also keep, yeah, keepers of the memory. Like we get the story about like, remember the talent show we did together, this, that, and the other thing. I found Jacqueline's reaction to finding out that Lori had the same biometrics she had and got the same spiel from Valentine. Was so funny.

She was furious that she was in like the leader. Is that right? Yeah. Do you think that's right? My hydration level was one of the highest he's ever seen. No one will ever say that. But the thing is like we, so we did a live rewatchables and one of your best friends came and hung out with us for the night. Allison.

She just was Mal's friend who just joined us. Mal wasn't just constantly going, we're best friends. We've known each other forever.

We're so close. Like, you usually say that if it's not actually that close. And that was the point they made about... That was the point they made about her marriage.

Yeah. The fact that you feel compelled to say out loud were addicted to each other, right. Ultimate red flag. I don't trust people.

This used to be my thing back in the day 100 years ago with Rachel Ray. I'm like, this is you seem like, can anybody enjoy anything, even the active cooking? Is Rachel Ray catching strays in 2025? I should say I have not engaged with any Rachel Ray content in a really long time. But like my sister used to watch her.

This was a kid, like in high school. And I was just like, I don't, this level of happiness. I just, I can't understand it. It doesn't seem true to me. We gotta stay on this for a second. I'm probably sharing too much, but this is the child of divorce energy. Oh, yeah. We're just naturally suspicious of love at all time.

No, but this is... So I can't get enough of my husband. Give me a fucking break. No, I'm sharing too much, but I get suspicious when couples do too much social media about their relationship. Oh, yeah. I always talk to my own. I'm like, uh-oh. It's a performance.

The divorce crows are circling. Anytime the pictures start coming fast and furious, I always assume something bad happened. Yeah. Yeah. Because I don't really do any of that stuff. I did get my wife Valentine's Dayflowers today. How lovely. Four hours into the morning, Adam and I remember.

that we had forgotten. It was Valentine's Day. I only remember because we are prepping for our V-Day Quickie podcast. I mentioned it to Tim and I swear to God. He said, I gotta go say happy Valentine's Day to Halo. That was his answer to your cat? And I was like, me too. So in that sense, we remained in lockstep.

But yeah. No, but you guys both talk about your spouses and like the stuff that you guys watch together and stuff like that. You just have to like, you're rock solid. You're up to like perform it. It's the performance that is the red flag. And that's where social media gets really interesting. But that's like. Great take.

Even with these three going away together, and I don't know if they're going to do this in a later episode, but like the Instagram posted them together, like all the phoniness that comes with that stuff, one of them will do it. Yeah. The passing by it in the yoga gear. All right, so let's go to the rat lifts. Actually, let's take a break and then we'll go to the ratlifts. Are you looking for support in your weight management journey?

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Borshead committed to craft since 1905. Coming back, the rat lifts. We just started out with a shot of Patrick Schwarzenegger's butt crack and Lockheed kind of checking it out in a way that made me uncomfortable. Yeah, deeply uncomfortable. Yeah, he's. He is considering the male form. That seems clear.

Parker Posey, slept like a corpse. I slept like a corpse is, again, so let's consider this. Vicki was my number one last week. She's my number one again. So, okay, that was my question. We can do MVPs right now. Clear MVP of episode two. Does a line like that make you feel sure she's not going to die?

Or sure she is? Oh, you're putting her in the death in the death sweepstakes? Okay, I'm always trying to figure out, based on what we've seen before. it's the hot messes that have died in the last season. She's coming out of the gate a hot mess.

Yeah. Is that, is he going to zag off of the hot messes? Armand, like, devolved into a hot mess. Yes. Yes.

He's quite a lot. He sure did. Yeah. So, like, it's the, it's the drugs or the drinking and the hot messeries, like,

usually leads to, but here's the key with her. She's clearly always a hot mess because they fit, the family has hit the point when stuff is happening with her. They're all like exchanging little looks at a show. Like, oh, here goes mom.

So this is 365 days a year. She's like this. Oh, for sure. Oh, yeah. Yeah. She's zonked out at breakfast. She can't remember Kate. She's got to take a pill.

She's got to take a pill before her massage. There's a lot. The thing that's going to react. That's going to relax you. She was unbelievable. Also, her ordering the Thai food. Just the way that she was pronouncing it with her twang. Yeah.

Very good. Well, we learned Saxon takes Adderall. day. Just to get shit done. But before he says that he does, his constant sucking up, I'm like you, dad. I'm just like you, dad. I don't do drugs. Right. I would never. Stair rides now. Also the fact that Tim, our guy Tim, was very adamant about saying he doesn't, you know, doesn't, his body is a temple, right? I just want to spend all of my vacation at the gym. I don't do drugs. I'm still on, and I think we probably all should be, poison fruit watch with this family. Like, oh, because we're getting a blender. Can we get a sponsor for that? Poison Fruit Watch is brought

to by State Farm. We're getting a blender from. We're getting a blender from the butler for the poisoned fruit. Yeah, exactly. So Saxon trying to use the, the poison seeds for something and then either his father accidentally consumes it or his mother guzzles it. Something it's like terrible. The Wall Street Journal coming on location? Well, now. Can I make you a Washington Post? It's on it too. They might have a whole gaggle. Yeah, like I'm with you. I was thinking about this too. It's the dysfunctional. Rick is our red herring, I think. Right. He's there actively seeking violence and vengeance. But that's not really where the violence comes from.

It's the dysfunctional crew that ends up delivering it and that's the Rattel. Knowing that there is Larazepam that he's like, I won't take, but watching him

unravel, Tim, I'm talking about over the course of the episode, is he going to be digging into his wife's readily available pharmacy at any given time in this season?

That would affect him angrily sprinting on the treadmill. That is tough tough times for the treadmill in this episode. I would not spend my vacation that way personally. So we also have

we have the baby which I thought was a great scene. I actually thought Leslie Bibb was really good in that scene. Oh, yeah. Just keeping the friends of face on. So, do you remember me? We met at a baby shower. So what?

Who cares? Actresses are all basically prostitutes if they're lucky. And the kids are just laughing. Yeah. They're like, oh, mom's on one and it's breakfast. But this is the family. They make, like, the most hideous jokes and then they laugh about it. I love it.

I felt right at home. I bet. I'm always the hyper. I'm always the Piper. Piper. It's like a Disneyland for rich bohemians from Malibu and their Lulu Lemon yoga pants. Mike White's, that's it. That's the show.

Mike White's like done. Exactly. But like then we see Piper doing yoga, by the way. Yeah. Yeah. Getting a lot of looks from her LBH. Let's go to the spa treatment. Yeah.

Yeah. The LBH is checking out. She's great, by the way, doing the yoga. Yeah. Too much uninterrupted eye contact from that LBH. Bend your spine elsewhere. I, I, MD-ed her because she was looking. and familiar and it was driving me crazy.

She was in that devil, that movie, the late night with the devil. Yeah, yeah. That's what she's from. But I didn't make that connection in the first episode. Did you see that movie? Horror movie. Absolutely.

I think they've styled her so differently for this. Really, really good movie. Yeah, they darkened her hair and they did some stuff. But the big thing. And it's sad that I thought of Mal immediately was Saxon. Oh, the boner. Getting a massage. I'm like, here we go.

The massage boner scene. we're on alert and then boom they went for it. Saxon delivered across the entire episode once again though, of course. What do you think for like a robotic fake boner under the sheets? Oh yeah. Like was there special effects involved? Yeah. Some sort of like hydraulic.

Yeah. Hydraulic, I think, probably. Yeah. Blowing up something. Are you hoping that HBO has an end of the episode sort of making of the boner? Can I buy this in a store? Can I surprise my wife or they one night? Like what?

Probably. Is this available? Is it on Amazon? How do I get it? I'm sure you can find something similar, yeah. So then we have Chelsea, who's just talking during her massage. She's one of those. Yep.

Just like. Talking about different. The Eniagram? Yeah. Yeah. We have the dad angly running on a treadmill. I'm sure this is related. What do you do during your massages?

It's really relatable podcasting content. But like, I'm a no talking. Why are we talking? I, the whole point is to like fall asleep. I just want to listen to the tingling. You don't get massages. I've only had one massage in my entire life. Entire vertebrae would just crumble like a chocolate chip.

What if we got you a laurasapam to take before the massage? Can we do a regular video of Mal getting a massage? Like a Swedish massage? I don't know what it had. I really feel like vertebrates would just chip off. It's entirely possible. Yeah. Just pretzel dust.

Or I could just change your life. I didn't join the one I had. It was like a mud treatment. Oh, yeah. Very soothing. Hell yeah. Wonderful. There were a couple treatments during this episode.

You're like, I would do it. that my wife, there was that foot treatment that Bolinda was getting. I was like, what is that? That was amazing. The milk soap is pork. Porn shys whole thing was, I mean, agreed. We hit Parker Posey takes the pills before the massage, aggressive.

And then let's talk our guy Goggins doing stress therapy. Boy, and Locky in the deprivation tank. Locky in the deprivation tank. Also, just by the way, for the Rattlet family. Yes. You're killing it, Pam. She got great treatments for all of them. You're killing it, Pam. Pam.

But then she had to go and tell Tim to get off his phone call. And he's like, I would feel a lot better if you stop talking to me. She's like, okay. Got it out. You want to talk about Goggins therapy? We learned a lot. We really did. Learned a lot.

Finally, Gagin showed up for the season. Yeah. It felt like he was on autopilot for an episode and a quarter. And then now we get some real acting going and some real. Here we go. Some heavy story. So his mom was a drug addict, OD'd when he was 10,

and his dad was murdered before he was born. So are we pivoting? By Scott Glenn. So Jim Hollinger is not his father. He's the guy that Kinks killed his dad. Or that was the story he was told that his dad was murdered.

And his dad was actually his dad. It's one or the other. I think both are in play. And I think it's even odds for each way that goes. I've never had an identity. I'm nothing. Nothing comes from nothing.

Nothing comes from nothing. This was actually heartbreaking. First time you came close to tears? Or was it the bone massage? It's good to talk about things of the wise Indian though, don't you think? I really moved by this. I thought it was really sad and touching. Well, it was also touching that Saxton was furious.

He didn't get a happy ending and that Parker Posey thought this was hilarious. Just an unbelievable scene. All the shitty things he says is so funny. They're kind of perfect. They're the best cup on the show. And Piper is just like, how is this my family? Yeah. How?

Locky again pulled, right? the tug of Lockhey, the Tug of War. But Piper's just like, I just, this is not. Why do you guys think these things are okay to say?

We get another version of it at the dinner table later. It's an incredible dynamic. So he's drawing into characters he's kind of messed with before. Yeah. Right? Protter Posey's on the Coolidge character corner,

Jennifer Coolidge character. We talked about how Saksden is like the Jake Lacey on steroids basically. Pfeo James. Then Piper, pieces of like the Sydney Sweeney and her friend that

season one, the two kind of, a little bit judgmental, like just, you know, I guess she's supposed to be. Or shamed of her family. She's at the end of college. She's like 20, 21. Yeah.

So she's in that judgmental. I don't really like anybody face, which is, by the way, when you're the parent. Some of us never grow out of that. Yeah, it's really great to go through. I have no personal experience with this at all. But my goal

for Parker Posey, in Saxton for one of the next episodes. Saxon. There's no tea in the middle. I call him Saxon. Why? I thought it was Saxon. No.

Are you sure? Is Saxon. Yeah. Mow's always right about names. It's really annoying. I'm not always right about names. How do you surely have a name mess up two episodes in? I think I said it wrong last year.

I was. I call Joe. It's my favorite character in the history of television. I'm sure I'll mess up other names at some point, but not, not, not Saxon. Can we get Saxon and Parker Posey just to two of them going out in the town in Thailand and going shopping and maybe getting

a drink and just like... And then what? Ten minutes together. Just then being offensive to each other. We already said there's some serious Targaryen energy from this family. So if Damon could dream about fucking his mom, why can't we get that with Victoria and Saxon?

No? Yes. You're going Targaryen energy with this family? They're constantly talking about each other's sex lives. Yeah, the conversation between Lockheed and Piper about her virginity. Wait, have you ever used an ocean hammock like that? That seemed amazing. That looked so nice.

Never. Oh, my God. I was hoping you'd be able to tell us what it was like. That seemed great. Let's go. Okay. And just read in the ocean hammock all day. I don't think so.

No, I think hammocks are great. Yeah. And it's like you're in it, you're in the water enough to be refreshed. Yeah. But also you're above the water. So maybe then you'd get cold, but it just seemed very hot there. It seemed lovely. Well, they have like some of those destination places where they build the hotel.

It's just in the water. Yeah. I wouldn't be able to do that. No? Like the moldies? It would freak you out. Where you're just like, if there's like a big wave, you just all die basically. One of my best friends just did this for a honeymoon.

It sounded great. Really? Yeah. Apparently, as long as you get over the hump. The Maldives wants to sponsor us. I will go to the Maltese. Maybe that's season four. Okay.

And then we talked about the Cougars with the body fat compliment battles. Incredible. Let me get more info that she's married somebody who she's 10 years younger than or older than. Yeah. So truly. Which I was trying to think of the parallels with this in Holland. Hollywood. Adam.

Don't mean more, Ashton Coucher? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, Coucher. Yeah. Not a common thing, though, the famous actress, Marion, the 10 years younger guy. Right. And the implication is that he's also famous.

Yes. Yes. Because he's the object of much attention. It feels like this will go badly during the eight episode run of the show, this relationship. They're encouraging Lari as the, quote, only single one to pursue Valentine. That's like canon in the show now, right? There's an illusion to some past.

Discompate in Cancun. So, Jacqueline, going in... Jacqueline Lemon. After encouraging Laurie to go for it. And then Jacqueline. Steps in instead. I mean, maybe, but Lori just doesn't seem interested in Valentin. And by the way...

Just a little eye glass thing. By the way, I don't think Valentin's interested in any of the ladies. No, I'm much out. He's interested in gay talks. Yeah. Wait. No, no. I have a distraction for the robbery.

Yeah. He's in on the robbery. He's in on the robbery. He's in on the robbery. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like he stopped to talk to gay talk at the gate. But I still think, I still think. Or that was a red herring.

It could be. It could be. But yeah, the fact that he like stopped and was like, I have tickets to the fight. But he still, I mean, like, he might have just been flirting to get his way. But he was definitely flirting with him. Yeah. Yeah. Did you freeze frame and try to see if you could tell any identifiable part of the robber?

Yeah. Hard to tell. I was looking at whether he was white American. I just couldn't tell anything. He was completely covered. He's covered. He's covered. He's covered.

covered. I was listening to the voice as well. The other guy comes out, the driver, briefly. And we can't see the face, but I think Gaytok can. Because he's not wearing a hood and a hat. He's 100% saw that guy. We get a shot of him clocking that guy. Yes.

If he goes to the fights on Friday, I feel like that guy is going to be there. Yeah. Because he's friends of Valentine. First sports scene in White, White, branching out. That would be wonderful. I'm trying, I'm trying not to read too much about this season because because, like, people give things away an interview. I've read one thing.

Like, literally not one thing. I will say this is not, like, a detail. But Mike White is saying, like, he tried to push himself in directions that he had not done before. So, a sports scene. I mean, we've heard a shootout, essentially, already. It would be crazy if they had, like, a Muay tournament or so, like, just, like, completely over the top. Yeah, we have an extra episode. Yeah.

Maybe that's what it is. The gang goes to the fights. So how did the robbery? Mm-hmm. Yeah. This seemed too easy. I find it hard to believe you just slide into the hotel and do it. Inside job if Valentin is.

But there's more security in the front. Like everything about it, it didn't totally sit right with me. I feel like somebody in that mask, you're just immediately, there's three people noticing that right away. The woman in the front desk was like busy looking down at her monitor. Yeah. It does seem like there should be people at the door. I agree with that. No, especially in Thailand.

You're going to have like two security guards in the front. And people are walking by during the actual robbery and nobody is paying any attention. Here's my follow-up question, though. It's like Valentin, we feel like it's an inside job and Valentin is part of that. He's in Russian. He's handsome. He's in on it. Do you think Chloe's in on it?

Because she's like in the dressing room. Oh, this is good. And I was just sort of like, is she part of this? Is she like... This is why she gets... No one like her. No one like her in the world when it comes to the theory corner. I'll be in the shop.

So you think a prostitute from the Dubai matchmaking site might have been in at a high-scale robbery? If she and Valentin have sort of a crime ring going on. Oh, man, I love this. She was eye in a way where she was like cute. Yeah, he's hot. But he's also a mark. Is he not? Yes.

He would be an easy mark. Yeah. So if she and Valentin have a little like, let's fleece. I mean, this seems like a little clumsy, a sort of daylight robbery with a gun and everything. Yeah. But maybe they're getting bolder. I don't know. Very interesting.

I really like this. It's a little to like don't shit where you eat because Chloe does seem to really like these restaurants and shops. So she's compromising her leisure time, I think. But I like this. She knows the bartender by name. Like, you know, she's like in it. By the way.

This did lead me into a nitpick, though. And I don't want to go back for this. Yeah. So Greg Gary. Yeah. No, Gary. Mitchell, if you would prefer. Plows off this incredible White Lotus heist.

heist of this fake marriage and sets this lady up for over a year, gets all our money. Hides in Thailand next to another White Lotus? I know. That's a little weird? Yeah. That's where you're going to end up? Like, oh, nobody will be able to put these two together. He's like, I've had a taste of luxury.

I've been to two white lotuses. I've got to collect them all. Maybe stay near four seasons? I don't know. It just seemed a little dubious. I did have that same thought. I think it's a really good note. I guess my counterpoint would be

a real like no safer place than Hogwarts, no safer place than the Winterfell Crips, like no easier place to freely commit crime and live in sin than a white lotus. Not only have we now gotten... Can even poop in a white lotus in a room. We talked last episode about like, okay, just a body count. Dead bodies, dead bodies, dead bodies.

We now have multiples on the robbery front too. Remember in season one, Paula and Kai, hit the I still don't think. I still don't think we know the crime rates of the four seasons. And so I feel like we wouldn't know. All right. But by season seven, I'll be with you. Yeah. If there's murder in the Alps. Yes. Once we hit our cold lotus kill. Yeah. Back to the rat lifts. The sisters fed up with Lockhe and Sachs and they have another great dinner. Anytime the rat lifts are at dinner, I'm in for like 15 minutes. They don't need to cut away. I'm just in for all the combos. Yeah. It's unbelievable. And then Saxon says,

You know what they say? Having sex in Thailand is like eating a box of chocolates. You never know which one's going to have nuts. And the mom laughs hysterically. She's like, this is my guy right here, Saxon. Vicki is quite proud of her dumb stuff. She's like, I raised this. This is it.

This is my life achievement right here, this idiot. She like goes right into making a big speech because Piper again is like, my family is gross, right? refers to her brother Saxon as a freak earlier in the water hammock scene when Lockhe's like, so like Saxon keeps talking about how. how hot you are. How hard you're not. Like, what the hell is wrong with my family? But then Vicky goes right into a speech about how they need each other, right? But then what does she say specifically? Most people don't have good values. They're scammers. Then she starts to

praise them. You're all gorgeous. You come for money, et cetera, et cetera. That powder keg of like, her husband's the biggest scammer. Exactly. The first episode ended with her, them in bed, and she's like, everybody tells me what a great man you are. You're such a great man. Our guy, Tim, is really going through it. And, and, you know, and, you're in bed. And, And nobody is going to take it worse than Victoria when she finds out that their life is a lie. When she finds out five years later that it happened after she wakes up from the 90 pills she took. Do you think he would take his own life before, like, his family finds out? Because we get this really sad moment at the end.

I mean, I don't have a lot of sympathy for Tim. He sucks. But where he's watching them all walk in and they're all happy and talking. And he's just sort of like, it's the exact opposite of that scene we got in episode one when he's standing, like, feeling like he has. the biggest dick in the world looking at what he's provided for his family. He doesn't have a son knows, but yeah. Well, that ending, it's not just here in the family, but they're talking about a tsunami, which I thought was notable. Yeah, absolutely.

Sunami just takes everything away. What is it? The Symbolism Corner with William Simmons. I love that, but also. I'm sorry to be on Joe's Corner. No, but should we also, I mean, do you think they would do a tsunami on the show? You know, I thought about this. It was noted that they made a point of ending a show talking about a tsunami.

Yeah. Maybe it's all setting up for the eventual cold lotus avalanche that you're predicting. You build toward a natural little up. Naomi Watts is back holding onto the glass in the pool. So you guys both love Victoria. She's your shared fave. What does it do for your... Is that Parker Pose his character?

Yes. I just call her Parker. That's fine. That's fine. What does it do for your sense of Victoria to know that her brother who tormented her is called Uncle Babe? And the one who used to dangle Lugies over? Correct. Uncle Babe.

That sounds very, I don't know. Please don't email me if this is wrong, Southern to me. Babe is like a Southern name. So she's from somewhere deep south. Yeah. Uncle Babe. She probably has a beau. Uncle Babe and his Lou Gees.

Oh, I love a bow. Bo's a great name. Angry Dad keeps getting phone calls. Yep. She keeps having to leave the table. I got to take this. Can we get calling on a burner. Joanna, whose voice was this?

This is a really. recent Oscar winner, Kiwi Khan, who won for everything everywhere at once. And you pointed out, we were texting about this morning. Are we positive that this is the voice? Oh, that was an answer. Absolutely. And what you were, you were texting, you were pointing out this morning that last season, Laura Dern showed up as a voice-only cameo on the phone.

And she had also recently won an Oscar. So I wonder if Mike's like just trolling the supporting actor category for a recent Oscar winner to do a phone gambo. This is a great tradition. What I loved about this interaction, it seemed very obvious to me that. these two actors were not talking to each other. There were weird awkward, I just feel like they had them record it separately.

There were some weird awkward pauses inside of the conversation. I thought it was the weakest part of the episode. The performance on the phone, it just sounded like an S&L sketch. They're coming after me! I think it was just a little over top. I think Jason Isaac saying, I need a lawyer immediately.

Can we do this now? This is a classic. He's already kind of giving up on the, Southern accent. There was just openly British sentences being said. Immediately. Yeah, he does not sound Southern at all anymore. Barker Posey is just elongating the draws to try to like stay in it, which is so funny.

Best line of the episode from me was and I only made $10 million out of your sleep. Out of the money laundering. Only made $10 million fucking dollars. Who heard that phone call? Garthak heard the call. And we know we know that he speaks English. That's confirmed. So he's hearing all of this.

And he hears, if you fuck me on this, I'm going to fucking kill you. Yeah. Only a couple other quick things. Double date with Greg. We get to this and that stuff. And we get Greg Gary. And we learned that they, he met his lady at a matchmaking service in Dubai, but thought she was French, but she's actually from Quebec. She's quite offended by this.

That is offensive. She's like, it's not the same. She's Canadian. She's not a French, you dumbass. Gary. Come on, Gary. On top of the hug they share after the robbery and the like prelude to the sex scene and all that sort of stuff like that, the looks that they share.

Yeah. The short hand. That Rick and Chelsea share at the table that those looks you share with someone when you're with someone, you know, like someone really closer. Yeah, I'm in their relationship. Yeah. Yeah. They did a good job with that. We get the musical performance from the matron.

Yep. Ruled. I thought it was great. Really good. Yeah. We get the almost ending with Carrie Coon and Leslie Bitched. about Jacqueline. Highlights.

She's so competitive. You think with all her success she'd mellow out. She's a narcissist. Yeah. And the vanity. Did she sandblast her face or something? God, she had the face everyone wanted.

Then they start slamming the boyfriend. I don't think they ever see each other. You know what they say about fronts? The bigger the front, the bigger the back. No one has never heard that one. Literally no one. Literally no one. Great look on Laurie's face.

And I think the key thing, about this is she knows they're talking about her and she just doesn't care. She walks off the bathroom. Yeah. She likes it that way. Go ahead, ladies. Have it at me.

Yeah, yeah. And then, and then we get a almost sex scene. And then, but the big thing, Gagins over here is the hotel owner. Yes. My husband's in Bangkok.

He has stroked. Which is what you call. Is he just going to actually like tail her? I feel like he's going to just be following her car next episode. Gay talk, that he's going to. Bangkok and then let's just take that again so I don't say character's name instead of Bangkok. I feel like he's going to Bangkok and then what does that mean for Chelsea all alone at the White Loans?

So this is one of my season, episode three previews. Could there be a romantic something? Could there be a drinking too much at the bar? Saxon stepping in? Not Saxon, Chelsea. Anyone but Saxon. This is Mike White. He's going to make us uncomfortable.

I know. I know. He has sucked us in with Chelsea and she has to make. make a bad decision with the next two episodes. I think I've prepared for Saxon to have sex with literally anyone in the show this season, including his own family members, other than Chelsea. Yeah. Vicki's on the table. Vipi.

Vicki would love to be on the table to fuck her son. Yes. Would love to him. She loves him. They seem like they're getting along, but he's going to Bangkok, which means we get to go to Bangkok. Yeah, that's going to be fun. With Goggins. I can't wait.

Maybe that's part of what Mike White is talking about. I'm leaving the resort. We're going to... An actual road trip. Yeah. Just like a, yeah, a little ride to the restaurant. He did seem kind of like... I thought this was also very charming.

Hurt when she kept saying how old he was. She's like, I'm young and fun. And you're old and grouchy. And he was like, thanks. Yeah, he was like, fuck this. So the big things we learned, his dad's dead, but we don't know if he's dead. There's a money-in-law.

or anything that our guy who can't decide what accent he's going to use made $10 million in his career and people know and he's about to be really fucked. Yeah. There's some weird robbery that we don't know the mechanics behind it

or who is involved and if that's a bigger ring going on which is another thing he loves. And then something's going to happen with Lockie. That's not going to be great. Yeah. There's a curiosity with him that is going to manifest itself

at some point during the season. It really is. Yeah, I feel like sometimes that character, though, like Quinn in season one is the one who ends up actually having a positive experience, like learning something about themselves that's meaningful and actually ending up in a better place at the end of the week. He lost his iPad in the water and he really rallied back. Yeah, like trying to jack it on the beach couldn't lost his electronics and wound up being out rigor hitting with nature. It's sort of beautiful. So the crime ring front, like, where are we on monkey corner? because we did get a monkey call out of me.

That scared the shit out of me. I thought it was a monkey. There's also constant, ominous shots of the monkey statues. Kind of like, well, and actual monkeys kind of crawling towards something like there. Yeah. It did make me think the fact that there's this like perhaps. You're in on the monkey theory now. I was like in on Joanna's monkey theory.

How did this happen? I don't understand. Because if people, if there are plants inside the hotel. Yeah. And people are just waiting to try things, it does seem like the actual. natural circumstances there, whether it's the poisonous seed pods or the monkeys, like, could really actually come into play. But, you know, we all spent all of season two wondering, like, literally what was going to happen

with the head statues. And of course, it was more thematic. Not a symbol. Wait, we got to take a break. Choice hotels get you more of what you value. Comfort in. It's calling your name. Save on the stay.

Oh, and free waffles are yours to claim. We'll direct at storeshirtails.com. We're back. What are we going to say, Joe? It's going to say, can we talk about MOOC and Gay Talk? They need a spinoff. They are so cute. I love Mook, and I feel like something horrible is going to happen to her now.

I won't allow it. No, they must be saved. I'm worried about him, his hero complex. I'm worried about... Gay Talk is almost a lock to be dead by episode 7. Just lock it down. I think he's going to be pulled into a bad decision to try to impress her.

That's what I think. Because she's like drawn to the Hollinger security guys. They're tough. They make money. They get to go on adventures. They travel. They see the world.

And he's like, can you have lunch with me? My mom cooked us a meal. And it's so sweet. Even though it is super, it was heart meltingly sweet. And even though like. And I loved her response too.

Yeah. Because she's just like, we don't, we're never on a day. Yeah. You can't, what are you talking about? Right. And also the list of things that they share in common.

Yeah. These ties that buying them, the fact that they're from the same place, It's like that's not sexy and fun, right? But when he's hurt, she's worried about him. The way that she, like, came to check on him was just so sweet, and he couldn't believe it. It was clearly the best thing that had happened in his life that the person he loved cared about him and wanted to be sure he was okay. I was like, that was when I got emotional during the episode.

It was so sweet. So you're like he's going to put himself in danger again just to get another hit of that MOOC concern. Or just like if- So during the Muay Thai tournament, somebody's going to be like, hey, can you hold this cash? I just won five-thigh, like one of those kind of moments. I'm concerned. Him either holding cash, helping somebody get away with something. Or he's heard all this stuff that Tim has said.

He has incriminating Intel. What if he tries to use it to get money out of him? I'm just very worried about it. I don't think he's going to try to. I don't, that seems like a... Did Tim see Gay Talk listening to him? I think he probably, ignorantly and wrongly assumes that he doesn't understand him. I don't think he registered the second time.

I think he's locked eyes within the first time, though. Yeah. I mean, like you noted, he just flat out here threatened to commit murder. So that's worrying. But yeah, Mook and Gay Talk are the best. All right, let's do. Do you want to do predictions? What other corners do you have before we go to predictions?

No other corners. I just want to shout out one other person that is a delight to me every time, which is Fabian, the manager, who, like, is singing along all the words while his boss is singing. He's been writing songs, Joe. He's been learning to play the piano. When they're like, you should perform, he's like, oh, I can never. I'm the boss. I love him.

It feels very intentional to me after Armand and Valentina that the manager of the hotel is clearly not the main character of the hotel staff this time. He is more of our kind of comic relief side figure. And Moog. He takes things so literally and so seriously. I love him. The central act. And of course, the prime ship of the show.

And Blinda. Oh, Blinda. Pornjoy. Well, we got to. Belinda. Orange. Oh, my God. We should point out that we didn't talk about Belinda for the first 50 minutes of this

podcast because she was the least interesting plot by far. They haven't figured out what to do with it. Yeah. Guys, so she saw Greg. Greg Gary. Greg Gary. Let's go with Michael. Greg Gary, Greg.

She saw Mitchell. She saw Pierre. So did it strike you guys that she was like, I know him from somewhere, but I can't actually place it. Yeah, she can't place it. It almost seemed like she was thinking that, no, that can't be him. It was like that was the conclusion. So they're going to have to interact again.

He looks familiar, but I can't remember where I know him from. It's going to be powerful when it clicks in place, I think. Yeah. It was disappointing because I thought that was. going to be the big episode two. Oh, boy. Yeah. Oh, oh. But maybe they're saying it out. We've got six more episodes to go, guys. Yeah. Gary, what have been up to? Yeah, this and that. Doing stuff. A lot of that going around. Yeah. All right. What do you got for theories?

Boy. I mean, I'm delighted to Welkewold to Monkey Quarter. It's like thrilling to me. It's great. Great to be here. Love monkeys. I'm really into the crime ring idea. Yeah, like there's a crime ring at the hotel. Um, and Hot Mess Express, it's Vicky. Like, Vicky not making it out feels likely to me. What do you think? Do they do that a season after Hot Mess Express, Jennifer Coolidge doesn't make it out? But Armand is also Hot Mess Express.

But you're right. Maybe it's too close to Jennifer Coolidge. Maybe we need someone to devolve into Hot Mess Express. Or maybe it's someone who's got it all together this time. That's my biggest 180 from episode one, episode two. I wasn't positive the Parker Pose of character. was working for me. Oh, I know.

And then in the second one, I was like, I totally get it. This is fucking amazing. The way that her eyes are just like squinted the whole time because she's just blasted. The way she handled the Leslie Bibb said maybe 10 years ago, just every, the way she was laughing at Saxon, Saxton. Who's your number one? I'm worried about you. Gay talk. Gate talk.

I'm incredibly concerned. My number one's Chelsea. No, I think Chelsea. I just can't maybe bear to consider. I can't bear to consider Gay Talk. Me neither, but it just feels like... Let's go for Valentin. I don't necessarily think he's going to die,

but I wonder if he's going to set something in motion that then can't be contained. Like, I feel like he's going to get swept up in this somehow. Certainly, the rat lifts all feel like they might just implode. My friend Dave, who's one of the EPs of the show, who I haven't asked them for any information at all. But I did ask him if Amy Liu, if she's cool. And he said she's the fucking best.

That was the scattering place. She seems awesome. Seems great. I'm interested to see what happens with her the next like five years. Because she's definitely got something. Yeah. I have a question about the triangle of trust. Yeah.

Trust triangle. I'm so sorry. The Jacobi. The Jacobi. The J.C.M. Dave Jacoby, the trust triangle. The DJ TT. Do you feel like that this is going to come to a head and they're going to like actively

yell at each other, wild out of each other, or is it always is going to stay? It's going to be a drunk overhearing thing. That's going to be a drunk overhearing thing. That's going to. By the way, the king of the trust triangle. fantasy and Chris Chris, Chris Ryan. Like that's lockdown?

You lose, if you the third with them, no matter who the third is, they lose. What if the third is? It doesn't matter if it's Zach Barron. I was just going to say, what if the third is Zach Barron? No, what about Andy Greenwald? Fantasy and Chris,

the trust triangle, you lose. Andy Greenwald. You tell Chris something, he's going to tell Sean. You tell Sean something, he's telling Chris. You just have to know. Interesting. Yeah. That's the trust triangle in action.

I do think Greenwald and Chris have a Andy and Chris. I think Fantasy still trumps it. Does it would get ringer game show. triangle. Have people guessing who is the triangle? It would be wonderful.

Yeah. What could go wrong? People wouldn't get bad at all. This is a fine subject to talk about it. How about you? Who's your... Who are you most worried about? Chelsea.

Chelsea. Chelsea easily. And I think Mook is going to make a bad decision with Saxon. I think that's just a Mike White move. It's just I'm going to... You don't like this guy and you like this person. I'm going to do this. So do we think the spray of gunfire is this

crime ring rather than one of the guests? I mean, yeah, like, you've seen a gun now. Yeah. So, like, the Hollinger guards could be involved. Yeah. Members of the crime ring could be involved. The monkeys, obviously, could be involved. The monkeys obviously get a hold of the guns.

Yeah. The monkeys having ingested the poison seeds of the fruit. I can see Rick having a gun. But Rick already said he's too nervous to travel with weed. Yeah. So I don't think he traveled with a gun. Smart move. He saw broke down palace.

I was going to, I wrote that in my notes. I was like, he's also a fan of Brokedown Palace. He knows. Claire Dan's, take me, take me! But he could procure a gun, perhaps. Yeah. Well, so the big thing that's going to happen for the show from a mixing things up standpoint is when we go to Bangkok. That's going to open two things.

Bangkok and then if they actually take A talk to the fight or whatever, the sporting event, wherever we're going on Friday night. He said it that it's on Friday, which is within our week. I feel like we're going. Right. What day of the week would have vacation at the White Lotus start? Sunday? Sunday to Sunday? Yeah.

Yeah. I always thought, I mean, it could be any day. It doesn't really matter. They could have showed up on like a Thursday. Yeah. Yeah. So Bangkok, when we go there, that also gives us a chance to maybe have some new characters, too. A couple new ones.

Yes, right. I think you're right that we got, episode three or four, we got to get some new people in the mix for sure. I'm excited to go to Bangkok. Me too. Yeah. I've enjoyed my time entirely. It seems great. I'll never go, but it seems awesome.

A real 180 on your tea glass. It seems great. You're like, Thailand, I'll never go there. Even Rick. I still won't, but I'm really enjoying being there vicariously. Only took Rick one day to opt in. He was like, I'm not going to eat anything, enjoying all of his meals the second day, says he's not going to go to his stress management session.

She forced me to sign up for another one. I won't go again. Yes, he will. Chelsea managing him where she's like, oh, we already signed up. We're going to have to pay anyway. I guess you got to go. By the way, my wife does that too. It's an incredible move.

A great move. You just lock it down. You can't get out of it. You would like this place. You're mister like I'm on a juice cleanse. I did a cold plunge. Only twice that it gave me the coconut balls, whatever that one was. And then when Bolinda had her feet in that pool thing.

And I was like, all right. The neck crack and the massage. Oh, Blinda saw stars. She sure did. Hopefully not for the last time. Yeah. Any more theories before we wrap it up? No.

Now? I don't think so. I think we've talked about like what. what seems ominous or promising for all of our faves here. So MVP of the first episode, we had Saxon. Yeah, the two of us did. I don't know if Joe did. You're not, but who is your MVP?

Of the first episode? Yeah. Chelsea? Maybe Chelsea. I really like her a lot. But episode two, we're all going with Victoria. Yeah. It's Parker Posey.

Or who do you want to pick? Yeah. If I could pick a duo, I would pick Rick and Chelsea. or like a unit I would pick Rick and Chelsea if I had to pick one person I would pick Victoria. Yeah. I'm expecting huge things out of Lari in episode three. It's huge things.

Feels like it's going to be a character. You don't bring Carrie Coon to Thailand to not let her do what Carrie Coon. What's your apex carry Coon moment? Leftovers. Crying in the hotel and leftover season two. Yeah. How about you?

She's always, it's always one of those where I like her every time she pops in anything I'm watching. She's perfect. It's probably about as high of an approval rating as I've had for an actor or actress. There's a certain people who are like, oh, this will be good. She's always amazing. What if you had just said, like, Proxima Midnight? Of course, his favorite of Thanos's children.

She's in a Marvel movie. It's the worst thing she really wasted her. I got to look at her IMDB right now. Can you guys fill time for two seconds? Yeah, yeah. There's Fargo. She's great on Fargo. You're a huge Gilded Age fan.

I mean, I love the Gilded Age. And she, on the Gilded Age, is married to one of the great recent, like, with the mustache. Yeah. But is she, like, do they give Carrie Coon enough to do on the Guild of Age? Let me give you, let me try to give you the log, the log line for her character. They're the new money family. Yeah.

Right. And they come in and she is like, I will not be made to feel less than by the old money. I will win my stake as the leader of the social circle by opening a new opera house. This is the opera box drama that I heard some. much about. It is an entire I mean, it's really the entire season two plotline. And that was delightful and your face telling you is delightful. Do they give Carrie Coon enough to do

in this show? She's like the Yeah. It's a slow burn. Okay. Yeah. She's, she's great. She's one of the lead characters. I forgot. Gone girl. I loved her on Gong girl. She was great and gone girl. She is great and Gong girl. She is great and Gong Girl. No, it's a slow burn. They're going to, I think she cooks more than anyone else in the show.

Like halfway through. They're waiting for her. Yeah. This one, she was just kind of drunk and happy and sizing people up and waiting to see if she could pull Leslie Bibb over to her side a little bit. The gossip session was so good. She did a full body sort of like, I know, like excited to talk about shit talk her friend. They all hate each other. It's great.

All right. Pre-cap you and Mahoney on Wednesday. Yep. After episode two, looking ahead to episode three. Correct. And then we'll be back. Can't wait. Sunday night.

yet again. Thanks to the crew, as always. Kai and Justin and everybody back there. Kai and L.A. L.A. Kai. Unbelievable. What a thrill. Thank you, ladies. Good to see you.

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