The Prestige TV Podcast - ‘Yellowstone’ Episode 6 Recap

Episode Date: December 7, 2021

Chris Ryan and Ryen Russillo saddle up once again to talk about Episode 6 of the Paramount+ drama ‘Yellowstone,’ including the potential merits of ass-kickings in the workplace, the outright disre...spect shown to breakfast in this episode, and much more. Hosts: Chris Ryan and Ryen Rusillo Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:43 soap operatic episode of Yellowstone. Ryan, what's going on, man? Good to be with you again, Chris. I want to start with this episode. What is? I think it's called I Want to Be Him. And I really, really want to talk about this Garrett Jamie situation, this whole conversation that happens between Jamie and his biological father, Garrett, just as a little refresher. If you guys aren't really aware of what Garrett's up to, Garrett, murdered Jamie's mom
Starting point is 00:02:10 about 30 years ago when he found her selling her own body to support her drug habit and Jamie was about to smoke crack as a baby and Garrett killed his mother and went to jail for a while. Doctors will tell you a wrong idea. Yeah, probably not board certified
Starting point is 00:02:27 and then he's back in the mix and boy he's been he's been doing a lot with his limited playing time. He built Jamie a house which he is quick to remind Jamie all about and is in the process of reuniting Jamie with Christina, who is the mother of his child, who worked on his political campaign in the past,
Starting point is 00:02:44 and CMPD was just exited stage left off the show. We didn't think we were going to see her or the baby again. It was one of those things that might get written off. She shows up briefly in this season and is still not on camera, but is a specter on the show. I guess, broadly speaking, Ryan, what did you make of Garrett and Jamie's big scene
Starting point is 00:03:04 and Garrett's big confession that he indeed did try to orchestrate the assassination of Jamie's surrogate family. Well, Jamie feels like he's a bottle of emotions right now. And so it went from he was ready to confront the dad last episode to, hey, here's your mystery wife and kid. And you're like, all right, we'll get to the other stuff later about you're trying to kill my family. And so I felt like we got the payoff that we thought we were getting in the previous episode once, you know, they put all arrows.
Starting point is 00:03:31 They were basically drawing arrows into the TV show being like, it's Jamie's dad, it's Jamie's dad is Jamie's dad, right? It was so obvious. I thought maybe, wait, are they trying to trick us here? So when he sticks a gun on his father and it was like, get up, I don't, was he going to do a citizen's arrest in the kitchen at some point? I guess in his powers is Montana Attorney General? Does he, is he allowed to just make arrests? Yeah, I guess so. I mean, so he's got his, he's got his, looked like a smaller caliber handgun on him. And I think that might have been some sort of sign with Jamie, not a 45 in this case, something nine niller meter, maybe foreign. the father's like, shoot me. Shoot, just shoot me.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Which is, you know, there's a lot of these videos going around of how to handle a gun being pulled on you. Just shoot me as one, yeah. Yeah, the new one, Yellowstone style, he just turning like, shoot me, go for it. And then he convinces Jamie that, I don't know, it's just weird. It's hard to keep track of where Jamie's head is at
Starting point is 00:04:27 with this whole thing because it felt like when he pulled a gun on the biological father, like, all right, this is what makes sense. Like, this is who Jamie grew up with. His father's admitting I tried to kill all of them. Casey's somebody he cares about, even though Beth and him argue all the time. I don't think he hates John. He certainly loves Casey a lot. And he's still dumb things to protect the ranch even when the relationship has been strained. So I thought that part of it sort of made sense, but because I guess he's
Starting point is 00:04:51 such a mess, we still don't know which way Jamie's leading. And look, it's a TV show. It doesn't make a ton of sense if Jamie's just on the same page of everybody takes out his biological dad and then has a new barn. Like, hey, you want to stop by Jamie's for lunch? It's a TV show. So, you know, it's a But we need Jamie to be confused to continue to pay off on this part of the story. Yeah. So Will Pat and who's playing Garrett, I thought, did a really nice job channeling both, you know, coach Eric Taylor and his just like, it had a little bit of a half-time speech. It's like slowly building. Also, and I know you, you know, you've done a lot of construction in your life.
Starting point is 00:05:30 He seemed particularly enamored with his own ability to build the house. Like he was just like, I built this house for you. And then transposes that into like, and I have also orchestrated the reemergence of your, of your child, and I'm going to hook you up with your ex. Did you, I mean, like, that was a pretty, like a lot of promises being made from Garrett. Yeah, but at this point, he's delivered. So the property looks great. And then you're right. It transitioned into not just, because the way I had read it was like, I built this whole thing for you.
Starting point is 00:05:58 I've built all of this for you. More of a metaphor than it was like literally the house. Yeah, that's kind of what I thought he was doing. but I don't think he's going to side with this guy and then we're going to reset it. I can't imagine a scenario where Jamie decides to go to war with the Dutton's with this guy. Yeah, the Jamie's reaction, which starts like you said with him pulling a gun on Gary and then ends with him basically sobbing in the guy's arms is that that's Yellowstone. Like there's only two reactions.
Starting point is 00:06:27 You can't have it be like, hey, you know, I'm going to need you to back off and then I'm going to go think about this for a while. And, you know, it's food for thought, but it's still not okay to do. try to orchestrate multiple killings. He's just, like, in tears, sobbing in this guy's arms. And it doesn't, it doesn't hurt that the, you know, the episode also includes yet another Beth dressing down of Jamie, where she's, where she's just like, my goal in life is to ruin yours.
Starting point is 00:06:53 I really liked Garrett's hand gestures. I don't know if you noticed that, but, like, he was doing a lot of, like, touch my head, then point towards you, touch my heart points. A lot of, like, just very tactile, motivational speaking going on there. Yeah, I also think there's a part of the storyline too where, I mean, again, it's a guess, but could Jamie know this information and then act on it? And yet it comes back to burn him again because it's Jamie because he knew it for as long as he did, but didn't say anything to anybody.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Do you think that they have Christina and the baby on like a per se salary kind of situation? Like, are they like, why are they keeping these people off camera so much? We had somebody at ESPN who. got paid for every radio hit they did. So they weren't a radio employee, okay? They weren't a radio employee, but they got paid, like a pretty significant hit to come on and do seven to eight minute phoners. And so this one person, I'd see him in the hallway all the time, and he'd be like, hey, I heard you talking about that thing with Aaron Rogers. You know, I used to work on NFL contracts, and I could help you with that and come on. I'd be like, yeah, come on in studio, you know, fine.
Starting point is 00:08:03 I don't care. Hey, you'd be like, ching. No, but I didn't. didn't know because no one knew and it'd be like 115. All right, well, pensioning on one 15. Segment six. Have you on. Talk to little Aaron Rodge. So, okay, cool. And then it kept happening where every week or so I'd get a producer in my ear being like, hey, so-and-so's on the hotline. He said he wanted to jump in and talk a little bit about this because he has some expertise with it. And I'd be like, no, I'm in the middle of a fucking segment. Like, it doesn't work that way. No. And then all the staff was like, this guy keeps calling every show around the clock asking if they want to put him on. And I go, every time he's on campus. And I say,
Starting point is 00:08:36 see him, he stops me in the hallway to say how much you likes to show and he'd love to be more of a part of it. And then someone in management went, hey, guess what? He gets a $5 per radio hit rate where he already owe him like $40,000 extra. Somebody screwed it up and that's what he's doing. He didn't want to come on anybody's shows. He was just counting it every single time. So that explanation is maybe part of the reason why Jamie's ex-wife went missing for about two seasons. I'm going to renegotiate my ringer deal with Bill and make it a person. show deal, but I'm just going to then start calling Justrimski and being like, hey, John, I want it to weigh in on Brooklyn bar scene in the early 2000.
Starting point is 00:09:14 But that's the thing. And you don't tell anybody what you're doing, because that's what this guy did. And it's, you know, you're going to short term it. You're going to make some money. But once everybody figured out what you're doing, it's a horrible long, long term play by an employee. And then once everybody realized what he did, they were super pissed. So I would say try to pull it off, but I don't like your chances for a contract after it. Yeah, maybe we'll see more of Christina soon. I mean, she played a part in the, I believe, second season of the show, then was pretty much absent for the entire third season and reappeared. But it's the same actor. So I'm, I'm kind of curious whether or not, like, she's got anything, like, maybe she's on, like, a different
Starting point is 00:09:49 show or something, or the scheduling was just tough. I can't tell. Let's talk a little bit about the meeting of the minds that took place at the Dutton Ranch to sort of open the show, which was Summer and John and Beth. I thought that was just a really heartwarming, um, because convergence of people. So just so people know, like, obviously, Summer is this environmental activist that John had arrested in one episode, but then bailed out and just spent some quality time with. Obviously, it seems as if they've maybe consummated their relationship.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Beth, in the course of just a few minutes of meeting Summer, threatens to stab her in the stomach, brags to her father about our own pimping expertise, denigrates Summer's chest size, mocks veganism and tells summer she should get tested for chlamydia. That's just in their first meeting. Oh, also she has a knife pointed out of her for most of the conversation. Seems like those two got along really well.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Did you include that she said, I hope you die ass cancer as well? Oh, that's right. That was her sign off. That's right. That was the last one. That was the closer on that one. I'm going to tell you, Beth, a little inconsistent here. We just saw her out on the porch with dad saying, we need to get you, I don't know how vulgar we want to be on this.
Starting point is 00:11:04 but she's a little more vulgar about it. And I actually enjoy John constantly being like, I don't want to talk to you like this, Beth. That part I like. So Beth's basically saying we need to get you laid. And then John decides, all right, it's on. This girl's summer kind of cute. You know, like you're sitting there and be like,
Starting point is 00:11:21 what's John thinking? You'd be like, you know, a little rowdy kind of cute, makes bad decisions. Check out the ranch. I got a new quilted, you know? So Beth is a complete hypocrite here because she was just saying, dad, we need you to go do this.
Starting point is 00:11:36 And then dad brings somebody home and then she's got a knife on her. Beth is just, Beth at 11, every single scene is, it's grinding me down. I got to tell you, it's wearing me out a little bit. So I don't know. I was happy for John. But then the summer part of this doesn't make any sense. Like summer later in the episodes, getting a walk. She doesn't have to do the walk of shame.
Starting point is 00:11:58 John's giving her a ride in a sick, 350 is what it looks like. Or excuse me, maybe a 3,500. truck talk and we got we got a little calf on the loose and they can't figure out and then she's sitting there watching rip and john clip the fence and then carefully get the calf back through to rejoin the herd and then it just dongs on her she's like you guys have a real passion for this be like oh you mean the fucking fences and the horses and the ranch and the trucks and the barbed wire and the staff of 20 and the fact that i live up here and talk the way i do and literally every decision I've made about my life and my surrounding family for the past 50 fucking years
Starting point is 00:12:38 wasn't a hit because I put this calf back on the other side of the fence that now it's dawned on you that hey this guy may be into ranching yeah yeah I really it seems like you really throw yourself into your work that's great and then she's like and now I'm going to walk home now that I appreciate you more and don't look at you just straight murderers yeah now I'd like to walk? I hope that this, this, the conversation between Beth and Summer and John and Gator, the caterer, or the, the chef in the caterer for the show itself, but the chef in the show is the last time we talk about the hypocrisy of, of veganism versus, you know, meat eating lifestyle, because I think we've covered it. I think we've gotten to the bottom of it. We talked
Starting point is 00:13:27 about whether or not like harvesting soy somehow also affects like living creatures. and it's one of the only things where I'm like, I'm personally not a vegetarian, but I think we've got to cover that Summer is a hippie who likes, you know, non-GMO orange juice. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Like the Keen-Waw thing was like, oh, wow, didn't know that about Keenwa. I also think Gator definitely would know what gluten is. Poor Gator. Guy makes more smoothies than nobody drinks. That smoothie looked awesome at the end.
Starting point is 00:13:57 It was like, all right, what's wrong with that smoothie by the time? It was like, you can't get this thing to go. So that was, I just don't like, Beth's going to tell her daddy needs to get laid and then dad brings home somebody, then you're like,
Starting point is 00:14:07 you're going to stab her? Yeah. It's also, you think summer's done? Uh, no, I think summer's back in. I think summer will somehow be, like, as all these kids have moved out and Beth is just, you know, on 100, I think summer will be like the presence in the house that kind of like awakens John, because otherwise he's just like sitting around, like, dressing his wounds and drinking scotch every night. You know what I mean? Like, it just doesn't seem like it's a very fun existence if you're just like do it if you're just doing that um this was an episode where you know you mentioned the um you mentioned like the rescuing the calf and then it was a pretty like i mean aside from the fact that that there are a lot of threats being made relatively like pedestrian
Starting point is 00:14:48 i guess any episode of yellowstone that doesn't feature a major tactical shootout is it feels pedestrian but like you know casey checking out the new house enjoying life with a dog doing a little bit of horse detective stuff out on the res. But like for the most part, like, you know, it was a pretty like normal everyday episode of Montana life. I can't believe you just describe it that way because I would say yes, up into like minute 50 and then Lloyd payback Lloyd. But that is,
Starting point is 00:15:16 that seems like it's pretty normal too. So Lloyd banished to hang out with the kid that nobody likes and who's also banished. It kind of reminded me of Barry Bonds in spring training when guys who liked Barry Bonds would be the call-ups. Be like, yeah, Barry Bonds, but did you ever make it to the bakes? But, like, no, I was AAA San Francisco. But we used to hang out with Bonds and get dinner all the time.
Starting point is 00:15:37 You're like because none of the real teammates wanted to. So I kind of felt like Lloyd was given off some Barry Bonds spring training vibes where he's hanging out with a kid teaching him to rope. And you're like, this sucks. All right? And then I'm like, no, here we go. Now Lloyd's back in. He rolls in, he smashes Walker's a guitar.
Starting point is 00:15:54 And then he fucking stabs him. I mean, throws a knife right into his arm. And then that leads to them beating the shit out of each other where these commercials, which I think your greatest call of this entire season is the seamlessly with the advertisements. It's an unbelievable read on this. It would be like watching Star Wars the movie and not realizing that the canteena bar is actually an ad for a vacation spot. That it's like a TGI Friday. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Like, you know, feeling good in the neighborhood. And you're like, wait, is this still the movie or where are we, are we still on Tantauween? I don't even know what's going on. The ads in this, you'll lose track. So when Lloyd and Walker are actually fighting each other to the death almost, because you have to fight. Yeah. You have to fight and then you have to be done.
Starting point is 00:16:39 And then it's done. You have to get all the fight out of you. The winner gets his ass kicked by Dutton or Rip. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. So that's you win and then you lose again. And, you know, Lloyd beats Walker. And then Dutton's going to go beat up Lloyd.
Starting point is 00:16:54 And then Rips like, they'll hate you for it, sir. They'll hate you for it. They'll hate you for it. And the best line, maybe the entire show, which is a great line where they make the kid. I keep forgetting his name. Carter. Carter. Carter.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Carter. Carter. Yeah. Carter. Couldn't be Charlie. Charlie, Montana, I think makes a little bit more sense. But his name's Carter. And then Rip goes to Carter goes, the only painless way to learn this lesson is to watch.
Starting point is 00:17:19 So he makes him, let the boy watch. Let him watch. Let him watch. Let him watch. shooting about plums. So anyway, Charlie, AKA Carter is watching the fight.
Starting point is 00:17:31 And they went to commercial, Chris, and then they came back from a long commercial break and there's still being shit out of me. So I was like, whoa,
Starting point is 00:17:41 like you are hammering home this point. This is after also Walker had a blade pulled out of his shoulder. Yeah. And I want to just give a shout out to the veterinarian industry
Starting point is 00:17:51 because Walker very specifically asks for something called banamine, which I had to go look up on Google, and here's what we got. FDA approved to control pain due to foot rot and fever due to BRD. Banamine is the only non-steroidal anti-inflammatory cattle product available with convenient poron route of administration. So it's basically like cow pain killers. But he went, he went oral and injection on that too.
Starting point is 00:18:20 He went, he was just like poursum on the wound and then give me like a bunch of CCs, straight down the gullet. And they're like, you know, there could be long-term effects. Do I look like I'm going to live to 70? I know. I love the lack of self-preservation. When you're not going to live to 70, the whole world opens up. You could still smoke cigs.
Starting point is 00:18:40 You know, like you can work on the Yellowstone and go on killing sprees. It really doesn't matter if you've got a short lifespan. I, they just decided, hey, females are out. We're out on this. Is this going to play? So Mia already was leaving. Yes. And then Laramie who yanks the blade out of Walker, which may not have been the smartest move.
Starting point is 00:19:06 No. And then Teeter's like, I'm out of here too. Teeter's speak in English now, which is unfortunate because when Teeter first showed up on the scene, you had to have the subtitles up. Yeah. And now that she's a little bit more, I guess she's adapted her surroundings a little bit more. She's lost some of her Arkansas player. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Yeah. And so I don't know because this has some real relationship strains on the bunkhouse. So if I had to guess, I definitely think, I mean, I guess I could see a possibility where they bring the barrel girls back or whatever. But I think that some of these bunkhouse folks are going to also go to Texas for this four-sixthes show and this to go join Jimmy in Texas. I think Teeter might, and I bet I wouldn't be surprised if another person did because it feels
Starting point is 00:19:48 like they're keeping that Jimmy subplot of like Jimmy on an entirely different show operational to make it so that like either I mean like either he comes back to save some sort of day at the Yellowstone or they're setting up this other world that's happening concurrent to Yellowstone where other characters can go join him. I got to admit I still I just love the Jimmy stuff now. I just love watching him in Texas. I'm amazed that I like the Jimmy and Texas stuff as much as I do because I wasn't always the biggest Jimmy storyline guy and that roping. that he's doing that guy that guy's gonna be one of the best rope and son of a bitches we've ever seen in the roping game like you know i mean he was outside you know karate kid style
Starting point is 00:20:33 like i'm just gonna keep throwing this rope throwing this rope i don't understand the food situation though they wake him up i was gonna bring this up this is this is a huge episode for wasted breakfasts every breakfasts get gets served in this episode gets wasted so you got dutton gets like the full spread nobody wants to eat it beth's threatening him gators got like the whole goddamn buffet and they're like let's get some wheatgrass and Beth wants some a pack of camels and some coffee and like a large Duncan. Then Garrett gets up from a full plate of grits to be like, shoot me to Jamie and doesn't go back to his food.
Starting point is 00:21:10 And then Jimmy gets like a beautiful Grand Slam breakfast from that lady he's staying with and the guy's like, let's go. You had one bite of bacon. Time to go work for 14 hours. Look, you're absolutely on point. Best point you've made maybe today. Breakfast is getting a P.E.R. about four and a half in this episode. Breakfast is unplayable. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Un playable. What are they trying to tell us? What are they trying to tell us about the utility of breakfast in modern America? I mean, I'm a granola in the morning and I keep it moving. I don't know about you. I like to work out on an empty stomach. So I do a lot of water and then I'll do a juice. And today I did a couple almond butter on wheat things because I knew I'd be podcast in the
Starting point is 00:21:52 first couple hours today. so I wasn't going to get anything in me. No, like this stupid snack thing that I have, this thing where it's almond butter and jelly in these pre-packaged things, but they're supposedly good for you. I don't know. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Was there ever a point where you were like an eggs, bacon, home fries guy in the morning? No, I like to do late breakfast. I like to work out and then I'll have breakfast. Nice. So that's, but no, would I make myself a big breakfast and going to work at ESPN? No.
Starting point is 00:22:19 I didn't like to eat a lot. I didn't like a lot of food in me when I was on the, the air we're working out, which is weird. And then I would like make up for it later on. So I get my meals in later, which I guess maybe is the wrong way to do it anyway. But I just don't understand. Jimmy, new guy in the ranch, you like them enough to invite him into your home to have breakfast, but you invite him as you're finishing up. He's taking one bite, tell him to take his hat off. And then you're like, all right, it's time to go. Yeah. You're like, all right, well, that sucks.
Starting point is 00:22:45 And then later on, he's so hungry. And it was pretty clear, however Jimmy was supposed to play that plate of food, because I think that's the wife being like, hey, you got fucked on the breakfast. thing this morning and maybe they're just giving you a hard time because you're the new guy. But, you know, new guy or what, I just don't see cowboys being in the habit of wasting food, especially having the wife make a full plate and then being like, oh, we're going to mess with them and have them waste it. That didn't make any sense. Just make a bacon egg and cheese out of that thing.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Yeah, that's what I thought maybe he was going to do was just wrap it into an egg pita and go like this, like, because Jimmy would do that kind of thing, especially in the meth days. Although probably, probably to eat a lot when he was on meth. No, I think he was subsisting off pure amphetamine. when he has the plate of what looked like chicken fried steak or something in their potatoes and the beans and he starts eating it you could see the direction would have been like i don't need i haven't eaten anything all day hungry i need midnight express hungry the shit's just just got out of turkish prison hungry that's that's what we need from you jimmy
Starting point is 00:23:44 but i'm with you the biggest the biggest surprise for me has been really enjoying anything because it's the four sixes and by the way the taylor shared and ad where he does the tractor supply company ad where he admits like this is how I grew up. I don't know that I knew that this was exactly how he grew up. And by the way, I don't know what kind of program he's on, but he's, he is jacked. He's got like, did you see like his, his shoulders are getting, like he's not in the Dwight Howard zone or anything, but he is a pretty jacked middle-aged guy. He is. I don't know if there's a piss test policy on Yellowstone or what, but I don't know if we got a Brett Boone situation here, but he is not. I'm just, I'm just, I'm
Starting point is 00:24:23 just kidding. He's he's jacked. This ranch and has kept that guy in shape. I saw a, like a behind the scenes thing. I can't remember for what season was, but it just got served to me on YouTube. And it's Costner. He's, you know, like getting out there in years. And he's wearing like, just like a, you know, a buttoned up shirt tucked into jeans. He looks basically like a nicer version of John Dutton.
Starting point is 00:24:46 He's not doing the growl. And Sharon is just like wearing like a t-shirt that's like, you know, like a kind of a a short sleeve Henley and is just like ripped and is clearly like, I could bench press you, Costner, like we could do this. Yeah, because I don't think he's tall. I don't know, I don't know that he's tall. I don't feel like he, I don't know, I'm not 100% sure. But yeah, he was, when he was doing those ads,
Starting point is 00:25:11 I'm like, this guy is is yoked up, man. All right, I'm going to ask you this. Okay. Are you actually starting to miss the zoning and boardroom property battle stuff? I think that, like, do I miss the, like, the Danny Houston types, like, those guys and, like, all the arguing about whether they're going to build a city somewhere? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:33 I mean, I think that this season is missing something, like, in that, like, attention. Like, especially since, like, when it first started, you're like, okay, so the entire season is going to be oriented around, like, basically a detective show trying to figure out who tried to have them killed. And that mystery has been solved yet not come to the forefront. So I don't really know what we're like. I don't really understand what Beth is doing, where she's like, I am working for the company that's trying to destroy the Yellowstone, but only so that I can, like, fire Michael Nouri and then torment Jamie, I guess. Like, I'm not really sure what the kind of, what the antagonist of this season really is other than Garrett, I guess. So I do, I do mess it. Yeah, I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:26:14 The seeds from the next episode. I guess I kind of miss Danny. Like, Danny's character was awesome. Yeah. Rich guy, California, but not so rich. She could pull it off on his own. He had people to answer to. So he was sort of a man-trap.
Starting point is 00:26:25 When he thought deep down, he was doing a very earnest thing in bringing people to share in this majesty. And, you know, that just wasn't going to ride. And then, you know, they tortured that fucker. And they really killed him. And then, you know, then he ends up getting killed by the other guys. So, you know, there was almost this alliance. But they do plant a seed where it looks like Beth is in a meeting where the market equities people are like, no, we're actually screwing you over. Like, that was the whole plan.
Starting point is 00:26:50 And you thought you could stop this. So now we're going to see where your head's at. And of course, maybe we flirt with the idea. She's going to turn on the family, but that seems impossible after the buildup four seasons in. And I do think that there's going to be some rainwater reckoning coming. Like eventually, that'll probably be whatever the last version of the show is. So maybe it's stupid for me to try to guess when that's coming now.
Starting point is 00:27:10 But there has to be some reckoning because it's been playing nice now for such a long time. Yeah, they're like the enemy of my enemy as my friend kind of stuff going on for quite a while. And, you know, they basically are just, yeah, They are like, even though you and I are like mortal enemies, like the newer forces coming into play are unacceptable. Was there anything else from this episode you wanted to hit? Like I guess, yeah, the Walker and Lloyd stuff seems to have resolved itself since Lloyd helps him up. Was the destroying of Lloyd's hand so that he never fought again? Like, what do you think that's about?
Starting point is 00:27:42 No, I think that would be a problem as a rancher to have. But I also think like we overrate broken hand stuff. Like this is in Game of Thrones. Like hands get better. Yeah, that's right. I don't think he's going to have to be a lannister here. They're just going to rub some bannamine on it. He'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:27:59 But I think you made this point earlier. Of all the rules that exist, the not fighting at the Yellowstone seems to be the most misplaced. Like, why would fighting me that big of an issue? When I look at how you handle stuff, I wonder if fighting should be involved in more corporate workplaces. Would the corporate world actually be better off if you knew you could get your ass kicked by a guy down the hall? That's right.
Starting point is 00:28:20 We'd all be maybe a little bit better at our jobs. I actually think there would be no fighting because you know it if you win the fight, Rip beats the shit out of you. I think I'd be like, you know what? Let's just settle our differences with some like nonviolent conflict resolution because I don't want to get my hand shattered by Rip. I can think of some places where I've worked though where it's been like, you know, if you knew that this is the way it would go, then would you be trying to do this to me?
Starting point is 00:28:46 Like, you just know you can get away with this. So I'm blown away that the Yellowstone. has this policy because I actually think it could be implemented somewhere else. But you're right. Yeah, nobody, if you were at the ringer and you just knew that Kyle got to slap you around after like, if you and I got to a big argument about Wizards content and then if I ended up getting you on the right day and I beat you up and then Kyle slaps me around, then what did I really win? You know, I had a gym teacher when I was in like middle school who, whenever we were playing pickup. Boston cream pie? No, we would be like, we were playing pickup. We were playing pickup.
Starting point is 00:29:20 And if you got like a hard foul and just shoved a guy and was like, fuck you, get off me, the gym teacher would be like, lock the doors. Let's get it. Like, we're going to work this out like men. And he would be like, he would be encouraging us to like fight. And we'd like, no, I was just fucking shoving him because he fouled me hard. But he would be like, we're going to settle this right now once and for all. It would just be like, dude, chill out.
Starting point is 00:29:42 We're 12. You don't have to do it that way. Where did you go to school? A Quaker school in Philadelphia, which is why it's all the funny. No, it was mixed. Yeah, it was good. So wait, so there'd be women in your gym class? No, it would be like a pickup game happening. You know, like gym class would be like, go, go play.
Starting point is 00:30:00 So we would have a pickup game. And if like one short kid fouled another short kid, which was usually, you know, you included me, then you would just get like a little shovey. And then the gym teacher would be like, we settle our differences and we leave them here. You know, you leave it in the ring. I would just be like, Jesus Christ. I can't imagine that policy would be, would be a, approved at a PTA meeting.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Be like, all right, and for the fall semester 92, we're going to continue with allowing the boys to fight it out with the doors locked in front of coach. Even if they're just disagreeing about a block charge, pal. On the block charge, I think if I were a gym teacher, I'd want you to fight it out too. I'm like, hey, you've got to learn. Well, we can wrap it up there unless you got anything else.
Starting point is 00:30:41 That's all I got. Thanks to Sasha for producing us today. It's been a pleasure, Ryan, as always. I'll talk to you next week, man. Looking for the best place to shop this Mother's Day, Go with the brand that makes it easy to send something thoughtful to everyone on your list. 1-800flowers.com. Right now at 1-800 flowers, order one dozen roses and get another dozen free.
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