The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway - Does Scott Still Teach at NYU? Private Clubs for the 1%, and How Money Changed Scott’s Life
Episode Date: June 23, 2025Scott answers a question about his role at NYU. He then unpacks the rise of private social clubs and whether they could ever be made more accessible. Finally, Scott reflects on how building wealth has... shaped his perspective. Want to be featured in a future episode? Send a voice recording to officehours@profgmedia.com, or drop your question in the r/ScottGalloway subreddit. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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episode. What a thrill. First question.
Our first question comes from wild source one three five nine on Reddit.
They ask,
what's the deal with you as a teacher at NYU Stern? You currently live in London.
You are constantly flying around the globe.
How and how often do you actually teach?
Is it over Zoom?
Is it for a concentrated period of time, say one week?
Okay, the bottom line is I have not taught at NYU a three unit course since COVID.
When I moved to London, I offered to resign and they said, don't resign.
You're good for the brand.
Also, I don't in 2017, when I sold my last company, I returned all of my
compensation up until that point, uh, to NYU and said, I, you know, I
make a really good living.
I've gotten really lucky.
I don't want to take compensation from NYU or be a part of this industrial
complex that keeps raising tuition.
So I returned all my money. So I'm, I'm a pretty easy person not to fire right now.
I don't cost them anything. As a matter of fact, I give money back to NYU, but I also
do, I speak a lot there. I do symposiums. The deans have used me as a weapon occasionally
for fundraising or to do talks in Europe. I'm moving back to the U S in about a year
and I will begin teaching again, but no, I haven't taught in a couple in Europe. I'm moving back to the US in about a year, and I will begin teaching again.
But no, I haven't taught in a couple of years.
I do teach online courses for a section,
which is upskilling enterprise professionals for AI.
I do quite a bit of teaching there over Zoom,
but I haven't taught in person.
I'm actually a bit intimidated by it
because I haven't done it in a while.
I'm what you call, someone jokes, I'm a Pino,
and that is a professor in name only right now.
But I plan to teach again.
I've taught about somewhere, I think,
between 4,000 and 4,500 students over the last 23 years.
And I was just a little bit burnt out on it, quite frankly,
but I'm looking forward to getting back in,
back in front of the lectern in about 12 months time. Appreciate the question.
Question number two, our second question comes from Captain Lance Murdoch. Captain Lance Murdoch? Where did they get this shit? On Reddit, they say,
Scott, you talk a lot about expensive private restaurant clubs separating the rich and by steering money away from open places hurting the offline experience of the younger generation
just beginning to build wealth. Should there be a more affordable private club option that comes in below the top of the market and tries to bring the experience to more people? Could this work?
Is the community and organized services that is the draw or is it simply the expensive exclusiveness
that supports the model? Yeah, and I think the market will take care of this to a certain extent.
See, these clubs are already going where you're going.
And that is they're discriminating by age, which I have absolutely no problem with.
I'm a member of, I joined everything. Um, I have a very,
it's not even a fear of death. It's an embrace of death.
I think my time here is limited.
I think the amount of time I'm going to be willing to go out and get drunk and
have people bump me and I'm not going to get aggravated or upset or endure the
hangover or appreciate loud music or even be able to hear the people I'm
having dinner with at a place with loud music.
I think my days are numbered, so I want to do fucking everything.
I'm on, I finally have the money.
Most of my life, I didn't have money.
I was always like saving for something or trying to buy a house or
investing in a startup or paying off my
debts after fucking.com implosion or the great financial recession.
So what they've done though is they price discriminate by age and that is they almost
all of them have junior memberships where I pay 5,000 or $5,500 a year, which is fucking
insane.
You pay $5,000 to go buy dinner and drink somewhere, but they spend a lot of money on
the club, additional finishes, and they curate,
quite frankly, they curate the people,
a lot of cultural events.
It's kind of aspirational when people are in town
to take them to the hot new club or whatever.
And also you're signaling your value.
You're signaling that you're cool enough
to be a member of Zero Bond or Shea Margot,
or you're, you know, you are a bit T-O-R-O trash
and take them to Casa Cipriani, which I love, which I love weird location downtown to the Manhattan.
It's kind of weird.
I'm going to go down there.
I'm like, I feel like I'm in escape from New York and Kurt Russell is going to
show up with a sawed off shotgun or the zombies are going to come out of the water.
Anyway, but typically if they're charging me $5,000, they're charging
junior members, 1500 or $2,000.
So that's still a lot of money,
but if you want to be in a membership club,
there's going to be membership,
and they are starting to price discriminate.
I think the anti-alcohol movement
is terrible for young people, terrible.
I think the risk to your 25-year-old liver of alcohol
are dwarfed by the risk of social isolation,
and young people need to have more friends,
they need to approach more strangers, They need to approach more strangers.
They need to laugh more.
They need to fuck more, quite frankly.
And all of that leads to one place, alchemohol.
And I just think the fact they're drinking less is not a good thing.
And I'll get a lot of shit for that, but I'm sticking by my guns.
If I look back on all my best friendships or romantic opportunities or great times,
oftentimes they involved alcohol.
I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
In 90 to 95% of people, young people can figure out a way to manage their substances Romantic opportunities are great times. Oftentimes they involved alcohol. I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
In 90 to 95% of people, young people can figure out a way
to manage their substances and their professional life.
Anyways, I would like to see a tax subsidy for third places.
A third place can be a softball league.
Obviously religious institutions are a nonprofit.
Nike's running club where they get people together
in person, subsidized gyms where
people can bump off one another.
I'd like to see some sort of tax credit where if you
aggregate enough young people in person, you get
special tax status as a third space because where on
earth are young people supposed to meet and fall
in love?
They aren't going into work.
They aren't going to school.
They're doing remote school. They're not going to religious institutions. So anyways,
a long-winded way of saying I'd like to see more emphasis and more opportunities for young people
to get out and find friends, mentors, and mates. And anyways, back to your original question,
these clubs are smart, they're offering a junior membership because quite frankly, they want more
younger people, they see an opportunity.
Those people can afford the same price point and also being a cool club and
aspirational just involves having a lot of young people that are a decent
number of young people.
I appreciate the question and I hope I see you out drinking and enjoying yourself.
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Welcome back. Our final question also comes from Reddit.
User Bose Tender OC asks,
how did your life change when you made money?
I'm curious to hear about your transition from poor
to able to pay the bills to millionaire,
to decamillionaireaire to a hundred millionaire.
We've gotten some hints from your stories,
but it would be interesting to hear more.
I think a lot about money and I talk a lot about it.
And I think this zeitgeist that you're not supposed to talk about money is
nothing but an effort by rich people to keep the poor middle-class down.
If you want to be good at something,
you need to think about it and talk about it a lot. And talking about it a lot gives you ideas and opportunities and
can be quite cathartic because a lot of us are struggling or stressed out by money and
don't want to talk about it for fear it makes us seem weak. And I think it's helpful to
understand different tricks and different opportunities and the tax code and what your
friends are making such that if you're being underpaid, you can be more aggressive about
finding another job. So I talk about money a lot.
Uh, and I'm probably think about it too much.
I didn't grow up with a lot of money.
I went to UCLA almost had trouble paying my bills at UCLA had trouble
paying my bills out of UCLA.
Um, went to Cal, no money had a 1984 Honda Accord.
I was happy and I was fun, but, and then poured all my money
into my first company profit.
I started making money basically when I found a partner
who was also making good money.
And the two of us together could start living a nice life.
The best thing for me, I mean, one,
you have a nicer life when you have money.
I was able to move into a nice home in San Francisco,
but the motivator for me and the biggest payoff for me
was I got to take care of my mom
and I got to spoil my mom before she passed away.
And I know that's a lot of virtue signaling, but it's true.
My mom had taken really good care of me
on a secretary's salary.
So I remember, I'll always remember,
I got one of my first clients at Profit,
my brand strategy firm was Wimps Noma,
and one of my mentors there, this really wonderful guy,
was the CMO named Pat Connelly,
gave me, he said, don't tell anyone,
but I heard your mom just moved into a retirement home,
a retirement community, I'm going to
give you an employee discount.
I decorated my mom's entire house in Pottery Barn.
She just thought this was the most
opulent thing that she'd ever experienced in her, that she'd ever experienced in her life.
And it was such a nice moment for me to like serve that role as protector and
kind of spoil my mom. That's the first thing I think about when I think about
money. Uh, the next thing was getting to do really nice things, experiencing
great things. I like spending money. I'm good at it. How do you get,
there's so many people don't know how to spend their fucking money.
If you have a lot of money and you don't have a nice place to live
and you don't go to F1 in Montreal
or you don't go to Cam Lyons
or you don't meet your friends in Vegas
and go see you two at the Sphere,
like what's the fucking point?
Spend it.
And that's when you know you have some financial security.
But I kind of went from never having enough money
to having a decent amount of money to all of a sudden having a
shit ton of money.
It's like aging.
I was, I was the youngest person in the room.
And then all of a sudden I was the oldest person in the room.
I was never the same age.
And that's kind of the trajectory of my wealth.
I was always reinvesting back in my companies, failing, reinvesting,
failing, getting by decent living, but not a lot of money.
And then I hit it big mostly because the markets went crazy
from about 2009 to now.
It was in the right place at the right time
with the right skin color, outdoor plumbing,
able to raise a shit ton of money.
Also, I'm not humble.
I'm a fucking monster.
I'm in the top 1%, but my wealth is way more
than the top 1% because the smartest thing I've ever done
was be born in America in the 60s,
a white heterosexual male.
A lot of my success is not my fault.
So being able to take care of my mom, getting to do nice things.
And now money for me is really an absence of stress. What do I mean by that?
When my first son came rotating out of my girlfriend,
all I felt was shame and fear. I was 2008.
I had just lost pretty much everything in the great financial recession. And I
thought, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm failing as a father. That was my literally my first instinct.
It wasn't like angels singing and some fucking insurance commercial. It was like, I failed this
kid. I don't have enough money. And I was very scared. I was really stressed out about money and
not being. It's one thing like to fail yourself. I'm talented. I can always make enough money to take care of myself.
And I'm like, God, I don't have as much money as I
thought I was going to have.
So getting financial security and economic security
for me was just an absence of stress and happiness
is not only a function of the things you have.
It's a function of the things that you don't have
specifically an absence from stress that if you
find out your wife has lung cancer, it doesn't
also mean you're going to bankrupt and that my kids' struggles
are not going to be a function of my inability to provide for them.
And that's just an enormous unlock.
It's always been something and I know you can have a middle-class life and live
well and raise your kids well.
I was always, I don't know, I've just taken too much incorrectly self-esteem or lack thereof for my
economic viability.
So an absence of stress.
And now it's, I do amazing things with money.
And I think I'm really good at it.
I hit my number and I decided to get off the
money hamster wheel.
I hit my number eight years ago, unless I really
fuck up, which I've done several times, but
unless I really fuck up again, and I'm trying
not to, I'm diversifying,
I should be fine.
And so what I do is I've decided there's just no reason
why I would ever need to be a billionaire.
When I sold my company in 2017,
I thought I'm gonna take 25 million and raise another 250
and start a private equity fund
because I would like to someday be a billionaire.
And then I read some stuff and I'm like,
why would I want to be a billionaire?
Why would I want back on this hamster wheel of stress?
And I've been working my ass.
I've been doing nothing but working for a quarter century.
I had boys at home.
I had a wonderful partner.
I had a capitalist society that lets you hang out at some Argentinian super
cool hotel for a thousand bucks a night and go eat amazing food.
And then, and then, you know, I give the tech guy here a hundred bucks
and he finds me a Mac laptop and he thinks he's died
and gone to heaven because I gave him a hundred bucks
and I can go back to when I was a waiter
and someone gave me money and it made me feel really good.
I can feel masculine, I can feel important,
but where I am now is I'm going to,
every year I look at my number
and anything above that number, I do one of two things.
I either spend it, I love to spend money. I'm selfish.
I love to have a good time. I do amazing things. I have a plane.
I never let money get in the way of a good time. If my friends are busy,
I'll send the plane for them. If they don't have as much money,
or they're not as blessed, I pay for shit. It makes me feel good.
I have no reciprocal expectation around them doing anything back.
If that sounds like I'm virtue signaling, I am, but it's also true.
I can pay people really well, which makes me feel important and masculine.
And then anything above that I give away.
And I, I don't think of it as philanthropy.
I think of it as consumption.
When I give money to the university of California, when I give money to
charities focused on teen depression, I'm like, okay, I can talk about
struggling young men because I'm
fucking walking the walk.
You want to have money such that you can reduce the stress in your life.
You can take care of people who you love and have been good to you.
You can try to restore some of the incredible values and recognize the
opportunities that were given to you and make sure those opportunities are
presented to other people and you can pay people well and you give money away
and you can have a ball of time and you can be really fucking masculine.
It feels amazing to spend money and to give it away.
That was a lot.
Anyways, thanks for the question.
That's all for this episode.
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