The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway - Is SpaceX Overvalued? + What to Do When You're Not Getting Promoted
Episode Date: August 17, 2026Scott Galloway breaks down whether SpaceX's blockbuster IPO makes Elon Musk a financial genius, then advises a listener on handling a peer's promotion and weighs in on raising a family in a big city. ... Want to be featured in a future episode? Send a voice recording to officehours@profgmedia.com, or drop your question in the r/ScottGalloway subreddit. Plus, you can now call or text Scott a question at our new Office Hours hotline: (201) 472-3656. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to Office Hours with ProfGee.
This is the part of the show where we answer your questions
about business, big tech, entrepreneurship,
and whatever else is on your mind.
If you'd like to submit a question for next time,
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Our first question comes from Reddit user,
gullible ad 37-85. Is Musk a great financial engineer? I don't see how screwing over institutional
retail investors with misprice stock valuation helps with the share price when he wants to sell.
And for his SpaceX employees, it's far worse to let them think they are going to be rich and then
take it away from them, not great for morale. Okay, so just some data. SpaceX priced at $135 a share
at a valuation of about $1.8 trillion, the largest IPO in history, bigger than Saudi Aramco, that
put the stock at roughly 94 times revenues on 18.7 billion in sales, which was richer than any
company in the S&P 500. The next price is Pallantir, which trades it about 67 times.
Only about 4 to 5 percent of the company trades. That's the float. Everything else is currently
locked up. The stock zoomed to 225 and then has fallen about 45 percent from its peak to 123,
which is, you know, so it's technically now broken IPO, but I wouldn't describe it. I mean,
you could say it's a collapse from its peak. But by the time this airs, just some fine print,
SpaceX will have reported its first earnings and the first big lockup will have come off,
so the numbers probably will move again. Now, the lockup, Musk and a group of unnamed big investors
are locked up for 366 days until June of next year with no early release. The 366-day term itself
is longer than the standard 180 days. So on that narrow point, Musk is the most restricted, not the least.
I think, to your point, Muscle will go down as the greatest engineer of our time, but as a financial engineer.
I mean, essentially what you have is he convinced the SEC and Trump and NASDAQ to include him in the 100, which no IPO has ever been included before, meaning trillions of dollars of funds are mandated to put whatever percentage of a weighted index that SpaceX represents that amount of their capital into SpaceX shares.
No company right out of the gates has enjoyed that incremental demand. In addition, they were able to go public with just 5% of the float. Traditionally in the past, you needed more than 10%. So smaller supply, greater demand, you know, disco, and that is huge demand right out of the gates, which make no fucking sense from a valuation standpoint. And as the lockups come off and people can take advantage of that rich irrational valuation, they sell. That's what they've been doing. Now, sure, there,
The people who bought in are going to be angry.
I don't know.
Maybe I don't know what the lockups are on the employees, but his ability to manufacture
that type of valuation, I had lunch with a guy here a couple weeks ago, a nice guy,
and a friend of his told me he's made a billion dollars on SpaceX stock.
So there are a lot of people out there who will always invest with Elon because he has a habit
of getting shareholders a return, or at least most of his shareholder.
So I don't, I fail to see how this is a bad thing for Elon Musk that he was able to engineer a pop.
Now, look out below.
One of my failings as an investors, I tend to anchor off what it recently traded at.
Yeah, it's 45% off its peak, but it's only, what, five or 10% off its IPO price.
And it's still crazy overvalued.
I think this is a $10 to $30 stock.
And you want to see creative writing.
Look at the analyst reports from Morgan Stanley and J.P. Morgan.
and I forget there was someone who put an $800 price on this. God, I would, I mean, those people, really, it's like, okay, put down the mushroom chocolates. And if you believe that investment banking and wealth management fees don't influence analyst reports, this makes Henry Blogic in 1999 look responsible. By the way, I think Henry was totally unfairly prosecuted for something everyone was doing and still continues to do by a zealous idiot called our Attorney General Spitzer.
Anyways, I wouldn't get near this thing because I wouldn't even short it either because it's a meme stock.
And he has an ability to fool people into thinking, oh, wait, it's about data centers in space or the Rebovin or robots or I've got another rabbit I'm stuffing into it.
Look over here. Don't look at Tesla. It's an automobile company wrapping steel around an axle. No, it's a software. It's a robotics. It's autonomous.
Oh, wait, we want to go to the Carmen. He has a little.
literally reading that that prospectus was like, we work minus the charm. It was just so insane,
all of the bullshit and the pictures of rockets and this flowery talk about becoming an interstellar
species. That's just by my, buy my company for an irrational number. And that benefits him in a lot
of ways, their ability to go buy companies and backfield evaluation. So I don't, you know,
I don't, I think this is a win for them.
Two weeks after the IPO, they borrowed $25 billion,
the biggest investment-grade bond deal of the year
with debt running out to 2056.
It did this sitting on $100 billion in cash,
which tells you the AI build-out
is just extraordinarily expensive,
and he's anticipating that.
Management said future money will come from borrowing, not stock,
so the IPO was a one-time sale.
The plan was always to lever up.
So in sum, the bond, the credit markets are always more telling,
but they're less interesting,
so they don't get as much coverage.
The bond sale clarified the version of the company that people are actually buying.
Not a rocket company that got profitable and then is layering on AI,
but an AI infrastructure bet that happens to own the best launch business ever built.
And carrying debt, it won't finish paying off until 2056.
The whole thing now rides on not rockets or being an interplanetary species or even Starlink.
It works on, it's basically going to work or not work based on as AI CapEx bet.
So this strategy, inflate the equity, sell 5% of it once at the peak,
then borrow against that valuation while the business is still losing money.
So your employee morale point is interesting.
Employees still can't sell a single share.
I wonder if they can borrow against it.
The first window opens August 6, two days after the company's first earnings,
and even then only 20%, the rest unlock,
the rest unlocks and pieces through December.
Keep in mind, people always think once the unlock happens,
it'll flood the market. But keep in mind, the market knows those unlocks are coming and usually
prices them in. Some data on must financial engineering track record, he bought Twitter for $44 billion,
then sold it to his own AI company, folded that into SpaceX and all stock chain,
where he sets the price on both sides. And in November 2025, Tesla shareholders approved a pay
package worth close to $1 trillion, lifting a stake from about 13% to 25%. So, yeah, unbelievable financial
engineering. His co-conspirators are Trump, J.P. Morgan and Goldman Sachs, who manufactured a pop.
We did call this perfectly. We said it would be a 20% pop out of the gate and then get cut in half.
Right now, it's, it had a 23% pop, and it's for a 50% to climb from the IPO price,
it would need to be at 65 bucks, and I think it's headed there pretty crisply.
Anyways, I don't, I think on the whole, sure, there's some people are going to be angry,
but on the whole, a lot of people made a shit ton of money here.
Someone told me there's 14 new billionaires in Texas just from SpaceX stock.
The capital markets in the United States are a marvel.
I think this is low-grade corruption, getting to see above artificial scarcity with artificial demand.
But, you know, it's legal and he did it.
But I would stay away from the stock personally, both on the short side and the long side,
because I'm a meme stock and go to $200 if he announces that, oh, I'm good.
putting quantum computing on the moon. That's his latest bullshit look over here, not my actual
shitty business here. Anyways, thanks for the question. Question two. Scott, Travis here from New York.
So I want to say it was a pleasure to meet you and Ed after the live recording you did in New York.
Thanks again for signing my book. I've been in my corporate job for almost nine years now,
and one of my peers was recently promoted to become my boss. Things have been a little uncomfortable
sense then. He seems to favor some of my coworkers, giving them the better projects while I often
end up with the less desirable ones. I'm not really in a position to look for a new job right now
because my wife is currently job hunting, so we need the stability of my income. So two questions here.
One, how do you build a good relationship with a boss when you're clearly not one of their favorites?
I worry that trying to get close to him will come across his fake and maybe make things worse.
And two, how do you handle office politics when they conflict with your core values?
Where do you draw the line between adapting and compromising too much?
Thanks for your perspective.
You've helped me to become the man I am today, and I'm truly grateful.
Thank you.
Thanks for the kind words, Travis.
So, a few thoughts.
The American Corporation is the greatest wealth generator in history.
There's no better way to get rich slowly than working at a good company.
And they not only will remove that mole off your back with the health insurance plan, but they're
generally good at investing in human capital.
They're incredible platforms.
I'm shocked at how shocked people are when they leave an alphabet or a Goldman, and they find that
they're not as, they don't get their calls returned as crisply.
The platform of these companies is really powerful.
Now, the downside is corporate bullshit and injustice are just part of the game.
That's just something you've got to put up with.
and part of being successful to corporation,
quite frankly, is learning how to handle what is real
or perceived injustice.
I would try and scan your own emotions and say,
is he really favoring other people,
or are you a bit jealous or envious,
and notice things and perhaps maybe are sensitive
to the fact that he's cognizant of your friendship
or, I don't know if you were peers or friends,
and it's just trying to be more equitable.
I mean, quite frankly, how much of this is your perception,
in you versus him being unfair. Now, the way out of this is through it, and that is to do your job,
be really good at what you do, but also in your year-in review, when you sit down with him,
I think it's fair to say, you know, look, this is, I want to discuss this with you. This is
what I perceive. I feel like, I mean, just be very transparent. It's a little bit awkward for me
and a little bit disappointing that one of my peers got promoted over me. I think that vulnerability
is powerful and that type of honesty.
And say also, and tell me if I've got this wrong,
I sometimes perceive that I'm not getting the better work here.
And I realize that, you know, is that incorrect?
I would wait until the appropriate format for that.
But I think being very honest and authentic
is the way to approach this.
I think the best relationships are open and honest ones.
Do not be a squeaky wheel and a pain in the ass through the year.
just do your job, be a good soldier, try and be really helpful and thoughtful to other people,
you know, all the stuff that makes you a successful team member. But I do think it would be appropriate
if this continues to bring it up in your review. And just be very open and honest about what you're
sensing and say, is there something I can do or how do I, in fact, get on this better assignments? Is there
a reason, am I imagining this? Is there a reason I haven't been getting this type of work,
which I perceive is better? If it continues,
then I would think about, A, the way through this is through it, if you continue to do good work,
try and find other opportunities where you have a different boss. Sometimes people just don't jive.
I remember saying to some of the people that were working with me, I remember saying,
you're really talented. We don't jive. I get the sense that generally speaking, we're just kind of
oil and water. So what I want you to do is I want you to report to someone else because I think
you're going to be more successful because humans are, humans are. Humans are.
are emotional beings. And there's some people we warm to and others that we don't. What you don't
want is to get in the way of someone's economic livelihood and reduce the quality of their good work
because of some weird fucked up personal dynamic. So one, some self-analysis here, boss,
how much of this is on you? Two, at the end of the year in review, be very open and honest and try and be
constructive, what can I do to try and get on this better work that I perceive as being better
and be very open and honest about the way you're feeling? And if it continues, see if there's a way
to find another team and work for another team and see if you can, if you can, you know, quite
frankly, just get out of this weird dynamic that quite frankly might not be either of your
fault. It just, it might be awkward or strange for him or her as well. And sometimes it just
makes sense to get to a different environment. But congratulations. It sounds like,
It sounds like you have some nice things, some nice things in your life, and you got a good job,
or it sounds like you have a good job.
And so, yeah, I don't, you know, try and look at the more positive side of this.
Anyways, thanks for the kind words and good to see you at the show.
We'll be right back after a quick break.
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Relative Trouble 299 on Reddit. Hi, Scott. You've talked about the huge advantages of moving to a
major city when you're young to capture opportunity and network effects. This was my path. I moved to
London right after university, built a solid career in finance, and met my fiancee here. We love the city.
The problem is we both want a large family, living in a tier one city with most of the city.
multiple kids feels like the biggest display of wealth short of owning a private jet.
While I know we're fortunate to even have that option, it's a massive commitment.
And lately, the call to move to the countryside for space and a lower cost of living is getting much stronger.
I'd love to hear your take.
Do the benefits of big city living naturally drop off as you get older and start having kids,
especially relative to the insane expense?
Or is giving up the city a mistake in the long run.
Boss, you just answered your own question.
I was forced out of Manhattan.
I love Manhattan.
I had two kids under the age of three.
We were looking my oldest.
We were looking at pre-K or whatever it's called.
It was going to be $48,000 to play with blocks.
And by the way, we applied to seven schools.
And because he was speech delayed, he got into none of them.
And I was so upset that I said, we're moving to Florida.
And it was just an incredible move because the bottom lies, we couldn't afford to live in the city.
It was just, and I'm not saying we couldn't pay our rent.
I'm saying it was taking an emotional toll on us.
And what you're talking about is welcome to the work week in life.
And that is when it's just you and you're spending all your money on drinks and
ubers and you don't need to worry about a kid and life insurance and preschool,
you can get a 500-square-foot apartment.
And once you have kids, the majority of people leave the city because they want a yard,
they want a pool, maybe they want to join a country club, maybe they want good public schools,
whatever it might be.
but the strain, and there's always that family that kind of figures it out that stays in the city
that dances between the raindrops, and then the other side is the ultimate wealth flex is having
three kids in Manhattan. That means you're making a few million dollars. No, it sucks to be a grown-up.
You move, and I mean, obviously try and maintain professional trajectory, but having a backyard where your kids can play
and walk to school, and yeah, that's 90% of us do that. We eventually,
leave the city, move to the suburbs, move to the geographic arbitrage, lower cost of living,
better lifestyle. Probably means dad and mom might have to commute more or maybe do one or two days
a year remote. Fine. But this is what we do, and your priorities change. The most important thing
to me on a Wednesday night was going out and trying to meet fabulous people and there was
nothing better than Manhattan for it. Now, you know, a few years after that, the most important thing
on Wednesday night for me now is watching the new drop of fallout because my 15-year-old will
watch it with me and I just want to spend time with him. So, and I can do that in a lower-cost
neighborhood just as easily. You can't hit the membership clubs in Greenwich, Connecticut, or actually
that's expensive, wherever it is you. I moved to Delray Beach, which was just the right move for us,
literally cut our burn in half, could walk to the beach with my kids, lovely little school. By the way,
the school that my kids enrolled in Gulfstream was 14,000 a year, and the schools my son got
rejected from were $48,000 a year. By the way, my son, I'm dropping them off of UVA in a few weeks,
so things worked out. But yeah, do the arbitrage. Be thoughtful about it. Maybe there's an
advantage to moving closer to family because you have some built-in support system if they're still
young and healthy. But absolutely, living, the city has meant, the city is meant for,
For young people whose parents are putting them through New York, or they're in tech or working for META, or they're incredibly wealthy.
For the other 95% of us, you know, moving to the suburbs or a smaller city or a less expensive state, 100%.
That's what it means to be an adult.
And also, it's nice.
You're going to like living in this whatever neighborhood.
You're going to find, wow, it's fun to be able to sit in my backyard.
Well, it's fun to barbecue, right?
It's fun to go to Little League that's 10 minutes down the road, not taking a bus up to the Bronx or wherever it is people play Little League.
So this is just part of what it means to be an adult.
It's an economic arbitrage.
Be thoughtful about it.
But, brother, don't be sad about it.
This is part of life.
And it can be really a nice addition to your life.
And your priorities are going to change.
All of a sudden it becomes about the kids, not about you.
It took me a while to figure that out.
Anyways, thanks for the question.
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