The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway - No Mercy / No Malice: 2025 Predictions

Episode Date: January 4, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:43 that you'll actually want to listen to. Follow Net Worth and Chill wherever you listen to podcasts. Your bank account will thank you later. I'm Scott Galloway and this is No Mercy, No Malice. The best way to predict the future is to make it. 2025 Predictions, as read by George Hahn. Predictions are a terrible business. If you get it right, the events leading up to the prediction render it less bold. If you get it wrong, you'll be reminded of your gaffe
Starting point is 00:01:18 10,000 times a day, like on Twitter. The purpose isn't really to be right, in fact, but to catalyze a conversation. Every year we make predictions. We start by holding ourselves accountable. To see a report card of our 2024 predictions, check out the written version of No Mercy, No Malice at profgalloway.com.
Starting point is 00:01:40 For you listeners, here are our predictions for 2025. Prediction number one. Power couple, open video. Since the launch of ChatGPT in November 2022, investors have added a staggering $8.2 trillion to the market valuations of tech's big six firms. Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, Meta, Microsoft, and NVIDIA. For context, the 2024 federal budget was $6.8 trillion. Companies that referenced AI during their earnings calls registered a 12% increase on average in performance compared to a 9% increase for those that didn't mention it. The AI ecosystem is settling into three layers.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Applications like Duolingo, Netflix and Tesla, AI models like Anthropic, Gemini and OpenAI, and infrastructure like AWS, Google Cloud or Nvidia. Two companies dominate. OpenAI has doubled its annualized revenue to 3.4 billion dollars in the past six months and its chat GPT accounts for 56% of premium LLM subscriptions, i.e. people pulling out their credit cards. Over the past 12 months, NVIDIA has reported $96 billion in revenue, four times its 2022 total. I look at peer-reviewed research to evaluate whether a technology is enduring. NVIDIA chips are cited in 19 times more research than those of its competitors combined.
Starting point is 00:03:33 For two companies to dominate a technology this early is extraordinary. Prediction number two. The AI company of 2025, Meta. No business is better positioned to register progress in AI than Meta. Nine out of ten internet users, excluding China, are active on Meta platforms. The company has access to more unique human language data, i.e. raw training data, than Google Search, Reddit, Wikipedia, and X combined. In terms of compute, Meta has purchased more NVIDIA Hopper GPUs, advanced AI hardware, than any US company other than Microsoft, giving it unmatched AI training and deployment capacity. Prediction number three, Palindrome, service as a software.
Starting point is 00:04:34 So far, the benefits of AI have accrued to existing players. The next set of winners will be firms that capitalize on service as a software, i.e., taking human intensive services and putting a thick layer of AI on top to scale with less labor. This is a fancy way of saying there will be more consumer facing AI applications. The real cabbage, however, is in routinizing back office
Starting point is 00:05:01 functions like accounting, compliance, customer service, etc. Prediction number four. Technology of 2025. Nuclear. AI's choke point is energy. A chat GPT query demands 10 times the energy of a Google query. The majority of the 10 most valuable companies in 1980
Starting point is 00:05:29 and 2024 were, are in energy and tech. However, the construction of acres of data centers and the energy investments needed to power them reflect a deeper convergence. AI is accelerating big-text transformation from an industry that sells computers into an industry that sells compute. In a knowledge economy, compute is energy. Wind and solar are great, but they lack the scale and reliability of nuclear power.
Starting point is 00:06:06 One nuclear reactor produces the equivalent of 800 wind turbines, or 8.5 million solar panels. Nuclear is also carbon-free. 48% of the clean energy in the US comes from nuclear. Nuclear power may be the worst managed brand in history. Every energy source has trade-offs in emissions and externalities. I believe nuclear energy represents the best trade. If you gathered all the used nuclear fuel produced by the US in the last 60 years. It would occupy only 10 yards of a
Starting point is 00:06:46 football field. Note, do not go anywhere near that field. Prediction number five. Get used to it. Drones. Radar, jet engines, nuclear power, GPS, and blood banks were all developed during wartime. There's something about war and the potential loss of a civilization that inspires creativity. At the outset of the war in Ukraine, Russia's defense budget and standing army were 10 times and five times the size of Ukraine's,
Starting point is 00:07:22 respectively. Drones are the premier technological innovation birthed by the conflict. Drones provide constant surveillance capabilities and enable precision strikes at a fraction of traditional costs. A successful drone strike can yield a 100,000% return. drone strike can yield a 100,000% return. For example, $400 drones routinely destroy $4 million tanks.
Starting point is 00:07:53 3D printing, AI, and micro cameras have converged to shape the latest David vs. Goliath sequel. Using drones for last mile delivery of comm treks and commuters, search and rescue missions, and monitoring and maintenance in manufacturing and agriculture should reap substantial gains. Prediction number six. Musk bids for Warner Brothers Discovery, CNN, or another iconic media firm. The Wall Street Journal reported that Elon is addicted to ketamine. I believe that's the delivery mechanism, but the nicotine, where his real addiction resides, is attention.
Starting point is 00:08:41 For 10% of his net worth, $44 billion for Twitter, he can impose himself on all of us nearly all the fucking time. Question, if he's going to come undone, can he do it like the rest of us in private? Anyway, Warner Brothers' discovery has a market cap of $26 billion plus debt. If the idea sounds outrageous, it isn't. John Stanky, CEO of AT&T, put a condition on the sale of WBD that it had to be a single class of stock to get the greatest price and net the company a takeover premium.
Starting point is 00:09:23 In the words of Gordon Gekko, WBD is breakable, i.e. it can be acquired. After his fallout with Trump and the public's increasing fatigue, Jesus, make it him just go away, threatens to push him out of the spotlight, Elon will force himself back into the news cycle by again becoming the news cycle by, again,
Starting point is 00:09:46 becoming the news. He could also buy MSNBC, as unlike MSNBC, he does have a sense of humor. Prediction number seven. Investment Opportunity. Emerging Markets. The S&P 500 outperformed Vanguard's all-world XUS index ETF plus 56% to plus 23% respectively, from 2023 through 2024. Historically, when U.S. equities fall, emerging markets rise. These cycles typically last about a decade.
Starting point is 00:10:27 I believe we're over due for a course correction. The US stock market now makes up 50% of the total market cap globally. When stocks get this expensive, returns go down, and capital looks for greater returns elsewhere. Since 1989, emerging markets have typically outperformed developed markets by 27% after a Fed rate cut. Demographics are destiny. The growth in working age populations favors India, Indonesia, and other developing nations.
Starting point is 00:11:05 The share of institutional capital invested in the markets is at a cyclical low. A reversion to the mean would represent inflows of $910 billion to emerging markets. The X factor is Trump. He's called for a 10% to 20% tariff on all imports and a 60% to 100% tariff on goods from China. I don't believe he'll follow through though, as tariff is Latin for tax. At the first hint of inflation, alarm bells will sound and the adults in the administration, looking at the bond market, will respond crisply and force the administration to slow their role.
Starting point is 00:11:53 And Republicans in Congress will find their backbones when they realize that 90% of the presents under the Christmas tree come from China and their dear leader is post 2026 a lame duck. Prediction number eight. Platform YouTube. Netflix didn't win the streaming wars. YouTube did. Last year YouTube which spends zero dollars on content, it shares revenue with creators instead of paying them, became the first streaming platform to reach 10% of all television viewing. 81% of Gen Alpha viewers said they watched YouTube recently, compared to 62% who said they watched a subscription streaming service, and 44% who said they watched TikTok.
Starting point is 00:12:47 In the US and UK, one third of kids aged 8 to 12 said YouTube was their number one career choice. Movie star didn't even make the list. Also, YouTube is the number one podcast platform, adding a tailwind no other streamer has. If Alphabet were forced to spin off YouTube, the company would likely be worth half a trillion dollars versus Netflix market cap of $350 billion.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Prediction number nine, media, podcasts. I'm talking my own book here, but I've been in the podcasting business for almost a decade. And this is the first time I've called it the media of the year. The only ad-supported medium growing as fast as Meta, TikTok, Alphabet, and Reddit is podcasting. Of the estimated 3.2 million pods, 600,000 put out content each week, and I estimate only 600 are economically viable. This is a striking concentration of power, with the top 10 pods commanding 35% of the listenership.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Kamala Harris would have needed to appear on CNN, Fox, and MSNBC three hours every night during prime time for two weeks to reach as many people as Donald Trump did going on Joe Rogan. Podcast share of attention is well ahead of their share of ad revenue. This delta will close. Since the election, our pods have seen a 30% increase in revenue. My prediction is that pods ad revenue will grow by 20 plus percent in 2025. Listenership will continue to grow as well, and the ARPU,
Starting point is 00:14:50 like those of Meta and Alphabet, will increase dramatically as advertisers discover this is where young, successful consumers have been hiding. Prediction number 10, IPO, Shein. Disclosure, I'm an investor. One third of Gen Z consumers say they're addicted to fast fashion. Traditional retailers release 100 new styles a week. Fast fashion retailers put out 100 styles per day. Shein pushes out 7,000
Starting point is 00:15:29 styles per day. Its operations are remarkably asset light as Shein is an IP business that doesn't own any factories, trucks, or stores. Instead, its software tracks activity on the site, sends orders to factories based on their ability to calibrate demand, and then puts in motion the transportation. Also, there are effectively no returns. The Achilles heel of any retail business, as the products are so cheap people don't go through the hassle of sending them back. Similar to other asset light winners like Airbnb, Nvidia or Uber, Sheehan's revenue per employee dwarfs that of the incumbents. Prediction number 11. Business
Starting point is 00:16:19 trend M&A. A historic amount of cash is on the sidelines. Since 2003, private equity's dry powder, i.e. the committed capital not yet allocated, increased 8X to $4 trillion. Corporate cash holdings total $4.1 trillion. Context? US GDP is around $27 trillion. The average closing time for US deal makers in 2022 was 161 days, a 14% increase since 2018.
Starting point is 00:17:01 For deals exceeding $10 billion in value, closing times have surged by 66% to an average of 323 days. Over the past four years, Lena Khan has been an aggressive antitrust enforcer, and the Biden administration has published 209 economically significant regulations, more than any president since Reagan. The lesson? Elections have consequences. Setting aside whatever grievances Trump may hold against specific tech and media companies,
Starting point is 00:17:37 the perception is that his administration will likely be more friendly to M&A. Some predictions regarding who will be on top of some big transactions, Comcast, Uber, and see above, Musk. Also, I believe someone will take Intel and or Boeing private. Prediction number 12, tech movement, banning phones. 12. Tech movement. Banning phones. When we look back on this age, the thing we'll regret most is letting our kids become addicts.
Starting point is 00:18:13 The substance is social media. The delivery mechanism is the phone. On a typical day, a teen receives 237 notifications. typical day, a teen receives 237 notifications. One study found that 97% of kids use their phone during school hours for a median of about 43 minutes per day. Think about that. Basically, every teen in America misses 10% of school every day. Giving students unrestricted access to phones has been a great move,
Starting point is 00:18:50 said no teacher ever. Banning them in school is a return to sanity. The good news, 18 states have passed laws restricting the use of phones in school. And roughly three quarters of schools have policies restricting their use in the classroom. Better news? Our response, while slow, is bipartisan. Best news? Test scores have improved by 6%
Starting point is 00:19:19 in schools that have banned phones. Prediction number 13. Chemical Testosterone. Women are ascendant, something to celebrate, while young men are struggling. There has never been a cohort that's fallen further, faster than young men living in Western democracies. The percentage of young men aged 20 to 24, who are neither in school nor working, has tripled since 1980.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Workforce participation among men has fallen below 90%, while median hourly wages are $3 less per hour adjusted for inflation than they were in 1970. This is deadly. Over the past 20 years, America's incremental deaths of despair totaled 414,000, exceeding the 407,000 Americans killed in World War II. It's also a mating crisis, as women traditionally mate horizontally and up socioeconomically, whereas men mate horizontally and down.
Starting point is 00:20:36 When the pool of horizontal and up young men shrinks, there are fewer mating opportunities. And without the guardrails of a relationship, young men behave as if they have no guardrails. Families feel this. I believe the 2024 election was about struggling young people, especially struggling young men. If your son is in the basement vaping and playing video games,
Starting point is 00:21:03 you don't really care about trans rights or Ukraine. You just want change, i.e. chaos and disruption. The Trump campaign saw this and flew into the Manosphere with coarse language, crypto, Rogan, UFC, and Hulk Hogan. Trump gained 15% with young men, the biggest pivot from Democrats to Republicans of any age group. Another big shift was among women aged 45 to 64. I believe those are the mothers of struggling young men. America elected President T. The T stands for testosterone. The election was supposed to be a referendum
Starting point is 00:21:48 on women's rights. It was instead a referendum on failing young men. Prediction number 14. 2025 will be a great year for you. How do I know this? A. I don't. However, I do, really, hope your year is full of prosperity and time with loved ones. I've read that if you write down a goal, it's 40% more likely to happen.
Starting point is 00:22:19 And I've done this. See two sentences ago. So we have that going for us. Life is so rich.

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