The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway - No Mercy / No Malice: Think Bigger

Episode Date: September 30, 2023

As read by George Hahn. https://www.profgalloway.com/think-bigger/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices...

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Join Capital Group CEO Mike Gitlin on the Capital Ideas Podcast. In unscripted conversations with investment professionals, you'll hear real stories about successes and lessons learned, informed by decades of experience. It's your look inside one of the world's most experienced active investment managers. Invest 30 minutes in an episode today. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Published by Capital Client Group, Inc. Support for PropG comes from NerdWallet.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Starting your credit card search with NerdWallet? Smart. Using their tools to finally find the card that works for you? Even smarter. You can filter for the features you care about. Access the latest deals and add your top cards to a comparison table to make smarter decisions. And it's all powered by the Nerd's expert reviews of over 400 credit cards. Head over to nerdwallet.com forward slash learn more to find smarter credit
Starting point is 00:00:56 cards, savings accounts, mortgage rates, and more. NerdWallet, finance smarter. NerdWallet Compare Incorporated. NMLS 1617539. I'm Scott Galloway, and this is No Mercy, No Malice. Despite headlines declaring victory, the WGA, the Writers Union, has lost. They misidentified their enemy and in doing so, ceded power to their true nemesis, big tech. Think bigger, as read by George Hahn. WGA, and the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers, AMPTP, reached a tentative agreement. The WGA wrote, We can say with great pride that this deal is exceptional, with meaningful gains and protections for writers in every sector of the membership. Unquote.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Five months ago, I compared the writers to the British coal miners of the 80s, predicting they'd exit these negotiations severely impaired. I received a lot of feedback. I hope you die, etc. Good stuff. So here we are. Headlines universally lauding the historic deal and victory of human over AI. The WGA is claiming victory as it has no choice. Imagine declaring defeat after subjecting your constituents to five months of no pay. So let's put the ketamine down and acknowledge this is no victory. The key issue in this debate was money.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Specifically, the writers wanted more of it. Adjusted for inflation, the average writer-producer salary has declined 23% in the past decade. Last year, when prices rose as much as 8%, TV writers received a nominal pay increase of 2.25%. So the WGA made a reasonable demand, a 6% pay bump. But last year, prices rose, I repeat, 8%. In other words, the WGA arrived at the negotiating table demanding a decline in purchasing power and then didn't get what they asked for. They settled for 5%.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Meanwhile, the striking UAW have rejected an offer of a 20% increase and asked for 40%. To be fair, the deal includes pay escalations of 4% and 3.5% in years 2 and 3, respectively. However, to keep up with inflation over the past three years, since the last contract was struck, the riders would have needed a 10% increase in year one. The new deal also includes an increased contribution to health and pension benefits of 1% and oversees royalties payments that, from my vantage, are purposefully opaque and wordy enough to give members enough psilocybin to hallucinate that there's a there there. The already ugly math gets hideous when you factor
Starting point is 00:04:32 in the five months in which the writers, as a function of the strike, registered a 100% reduction in pay. For a three-year union contract to compensate for those losses, you would need to increase writer pay again by 14%. That's in addition to the inflation losses. So the minimum increase the writers need to not lose purchasing power is 24%. My favorite jazz hands in the agreement is writers get a 50% royalty bump if their show is viewed by 20% of the platform's subscribers. Yes, and I'm giving my employees a 50% bonus every time the Jets win the Super Bowl. Sure, it's happened, just not that often. The series finale of Succession registered 3 million viewers, i.e. 6% of HBO's 50 million subscribers. The WGA did secure a couple meaningful gains, as in two. First, there is now a minimum staffing requirement for writers' rooms,
Starting point is 00:05:46 which translates to more employment opportunities for young writers. Second, they've raised the minimum number of weeks studios must employ writers for shows. In other words, work lasts longer. These concessions are meaningful and reflect well on the Guild's commitment to investing in the craft and nurturing talent. This whole process, however, was a distraction from what the writers, actors, and all workers in the creative community should be focused on. Henry Kissinger once said of my industry, quote, The reason that university politics is so vicious is because stakes are so small, end quote.
Starting point is 00:06:30 The same holds true in media. Last week, I spoke with a group of Hollywood executives and writers. I'm trying TV for the sixth time. They were concerned about the strikes, but more concerned that their stalwart, the house of the mouse, has transformed into a distressed asset practically overnight. Disney stock is at a nine-year low. Subscriber losses continue to mount, with a 7.4% decline in Disney Plus subscriptions in the most recent quarter. Operating profits from the cable assets have been halved, and the company's operating margins are down 75%.
Starting point is 00:07:14 It's not just Disney. Revenues are falling at Warner Bros. Discovery, Comcast, and Paramount. Last month, cable and broadcast fell below 50% of total TV viewing for the first time in history. Meanwhile, the industry is becoming increasingly reliant on a ventilator of recycled content. All 10 of the highest-grossing movies from last year were repurposed from existing IP. Pixar's biggest movie was Lightyear, the sixth installment of the Toy Story franchise. And the hot news in TV this week
Starting point is 00:07:52 is Greg Daniels has a new show called The Office, i.e. a reboot of A Reboot. The writers can keep fighting for a larger slice of the pie, but the pie gets smaller every day. The WGA will have 15 milliseconds of fame before it starts digging through the rubble searching for remnants of its industry. The question they should ask themselves? What would a meaningful gain actually look like? And how do we achieve this?
Starting point is 00:08:23 Is it really a 6% pay bump? More transparent residuals? A staffing minimum for writers' rooms striking against impaired companies? To achieve a truly exceptional outcome, the writers, the studios, the executives, everyone in Hollywood must do one thing. Think bigger. Fixing the problem means first identifying it. The adversary isn't a Hollywood executive in a cashmere sweater. It's a 17-year-old kid in a basement scrolling TikTok. The rise of social media is directly correlated with the decline of traditional media. TikTok now commands 95 minutes of user attention per day, equivalent to four and a half episodes of The Office. More than 200 billion Facebook and Instagram Reels are played every day,
Starting point is 00:09:26 up 50% in less than one year. YouTube, a subsidiary app owned by Google, now rakes in as much revenue as Netflix. The ad dollars Hannah Montana used to generate have not been shoplifted by Bob Iger, but Silicon Valley and Beijing. When queried whether they'd prefer TikTok versus all streaming media, two-thirds of people under the age of 25 chose TikTok. There are between 300 million and 400 million creators on TikTok. Their compensation is approximately $40 for every million views. None have ever threatened a strike. The result? A. The company's valuation is roughly equal to
Starting point is 00:10:16 Disney and Netflix combined. It's also no coincidence that the year of the writer's strike is also the year of AI. AI was a core issue in the dispute. The writers rightly fear it could replace them and demanded the studios not use AI, which the studios, also rightly, declined. Instead, they met halfway. The studios can use AI, but the original writers must receive credit and compensation. This reflects a misunderstanding of AI. It's not AI who will take your job, but a writer who leverages it.
Starting point is 00:10:58 The industry is quarreling over pennies instead of pursuing Benjamins. More market value in the NASDAQ was created in the first half of this year than in any six-month period in history. The catalyst was AI. The day Microsoft announced it was incorporating AI into its office suite, it added the value of Disney. The day Morgan Stanley praised Tesla's Dojo supercomputer, Tesla added the value of BMW. Meta's new AI-powered recommendation algorithm drove a 24% increase in Instagram use this year. AI has inspired a tsunami of shareholder value. In 2023 alone, Google, Meta, NVIDIA, Microsoft, Apple, and Amazon have registered a combined increase of $3.2 trillion. Compare that to traditional media. The combined market cap of Comcast, Netflix, Disney, Warner Brothers, Paramount, Fox Corp, and News Corp is less than $600 billion.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Think about that. The value gained by six tech firms this year is nearly six times greater than the current value of the seven largest mass media companies put together. Hollywood needs to put down the slingshot and go big game hunting. As I've written before,
Starting point is 00:12:38 the fastest way to build wealth is to monetize infrastructure others built for free. Amazon built a thick layer of innovation on top of a free enterprise plug-in called the U.S. Postal System. Tesla leveraged green government tax credits to build an EV empire. Google struck the rare earth mineral that is user-generated data, mined it relentlessly at zero extraction cost, and placed banner ads on top of it. AI is the resurrection of this business model,
Starting point is 00:13:12 and the fuel is original content. Yesterday I discovered two of my books, The Algebra of Happiness and The Four, have been used, without my approval, to feed generative AI. I have not been credited or paid. I am not alone. Last week, writers John Grisham, Jody Picoult, and George R.R. Martin sued OpenAI for stealing their IP to train its algorithm. Before that, a group of artists sued Stability AI for using their content to generate AI art. So did Getty Images.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I used to think tech companies loved user-generated content because most user-generated content isn't protected by copyright law. How many TikTokers are claiming IP rights on day-in-the-life videos? But now tech companies are taking it a step further. Now they're harvesting content that is protected. There is slow, if not steady, progress on this front. I also discovered I am a class member in a suit that includes all copyright holders whose work has been used in training. That Grisham suit is also a class action, but the class is fiction writers.
Starting point is 00:14:33 To date, big tech has been hiding behind a complex generative AI algorithm too sophisticated for mere mortals to attribute credit for distinct IP. These and future suits are important, really important. Hollywood won't fall because Bob Iger or David Zaslav are greedy. It will fall because Silicon Valley stole the only asset that can truly differentiate generative AI, other people's content. When I was on the board of the New York Times company, two-thirds of revenue came from ads.
Starting point is 00:15:13 During the print days, it worked. We had strong control over distribution and could price ads on terms that made sense for the business. Then Google offered us what looked like a good deal. Let us crawl your content and we'll drive traffic to your website in return. More ad views. Great, right? Spoiler alert, not great. So while Larry and Sergey were capturing our ad dollars, I proposed we form a consortium, NYT, News Corp, Condé Nast, Hearst, etc., to block Google's crawlers and have an auction for the license to our content. I believed Google and a somewhat relevant Bing, see above, 2008,
Starting point is 00:15:58 would have paid billions. The board said no, and we missed the chance to upend the business model, to put creators, journalists, editors, artists, in the position of power instead of the platforms. Soon enough, it was too late. This is that moment again. A world-changing technology has emerged, and we have the chance to write the rules so that we, creators, can make money from it. Notice how quiet big tech leaders have been throughout this process?
Starting point is 00:16:36 Why? Because they see dead people. In this case, dead people are Hollywood studios and the creative community removing their heads from their asses, binding together, and transforming their assets into potentially trillions of dollars of shareholder value. To garner an increase in compensation that is legitimately exceptional, the writers and the studios, executives, actors, publishers, networks must band together. They should form a consortium, file lawsuits demanding big tech and AI respect their IP, license this IP, and start valuing their work. And they should do it as soon as possible. I'd suggest WME be charged with assembling the first 100 members and Barry Diller heads the new consortium.
Starting point is 00:17:34 He knows everyone, understands the industry, is smart, and most importantly, tech is scared of him. This would be infinitely more meaningful than the jazz hands of additional royalty payments for writers on The Last of him. This would be infinitely more meaningful than the jazz hands of additional royalty payments for writers on The Last of Us. Barely keeping up with inflation, minimum number of writers, 1% increases in pension contributions.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Jesus Christ, think bigger. Life is so rich. I just don't get it. Just wish someone could do the research on it. Can we figure this out? Hey, y'all. I'm John Blenhill, and I'm hosting a new podcast at Vox called Explain It To Me. Here's how it works.
Starting point is 00:18:33 You call our hotline with questions you can't quite answer on your own. We'll investigate and call you back to tell you what we found. We'll bring you the answers you need every Wednesday starting September 18th. So follow Explain It to Me, presented by Klaviyo. Hey, it's Scott Galloway, and on our podcast, Pivot, we are bringing you a special series
Starting point is 00:18:59 about the basics of artificial intelligence. We're answering all your questions. What should you use it for? What tools are right for you? And what privacy issues should you ultimately watch out for? And to help us out, we are joined by Kylie Robeson,
Starting point is 00:19:11 the senior AI reporter for The Verge, to give you a primer on how to integrate AI into your life. So tune into AI Basics, how and when to use AI. A special series from Pivot sponsored by AWS, wherever you get your podcasts.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.