The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway - No Mercy / No Malice: Think Slow

Episode Date: December 28, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:23 But now is the time to aim even higher. You can help create a world where no one is left behind. Donate at camh.ca slash donate now from December 23rd to the 31st and your gift will be tripled for three times the impact. A media ecosystem that focuses on engagement versus enlightenment will get you to whatever conclusion sanctifies your beliefs. The recent murder of a CEO immediately triggered my reflexive go-to that this is a function of the struggles that young men face.
Starting point is 00:01:58 But here's the truth. I don't know. And neither do you. At least not yet. We don't have nearly enough information to draw conclusions, and we live in a society where everyone fast-forwards to the end without having watched the film, believing they know what happened and why. We are increasingly deferring to our gut and emotions versus slowing our thinking.
Starting point is 00:02:25 The Jedi master of the importance of the pace of our thinking, Daniel Kahneman, passed away earlier this year. Several media outlets have contacted me regarding the murder of the UnitedHealthcare CEO, and in a nod to Professor Kahneman, my comment has been, I don't know. The end of the old year and start of the new is a good time to refocus on what is important. That means stepping back and looking at life not with the emotional reactive part of our brains but with the rational side. Daniel Conaman, the late Israeli-American psychologist, called this thinking slow.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Inspired by Kahneman's work, particularly with longtime collaborator Amos Tversky, about decision-making, I've tried to consciously employ thinking slow to make important decisions. Here's what I had to say about Kahneman's ideas following his death last March. Happy New Year. Think Slow as read by George Hahn. Daniel Kahneman, who died last month, leaves an extraordinary intellectual legacy. Few people have unpacked our behaviors with greater insight than Kahneman and his long-time collaborator Amos Tversky. In the wake of his passing, we've been reflecting on the many ways
Starting point is 00:03:56 his work has shaped our thinking. Something I wish I'd figured out when I was younger is that greatness is in the agency of others. I have often tried to identify a guide or sherpa for different aspects of my life. Jesus and Muhammad Ali are my Yoda's around social issues, love the poor, be fearless and poetic. And Peter Drucker informs my views on the economy. The purpose of an economy is to create a middle class,
Starting point is 00:04:24 et cetera. Professor Kahneman helps me navigate the straight my views on the economy. The purpose of an economy is to create a middle class, etc. Professor Kahneman helps me navigate the strait between instinct and decision. Some thoughts. Kahneman studied how humans make decisions and the shortcuts our minds take, unbeknownst to us. These shortcuts are efficient. They foster a key skill for survival, the ability to make rapid decisions with incomplete information. We have to make thousands of decisions every day and we couldn't leave the house if we had to objectively analyze every choice. Breakfast, outfit, route, music, etc. Our
Starting point is 00:05:01 efficiency comes at the cost of accuracy. Many instinctual decisions will be poorly calibrated, i.e. wrong. To facilitate the requisite speed, our brain buttresses our decisions with artificial confidence. Kahneman's body of work demonstrates that we are often wrong, but frequently confident. These shortcuts and mistakes are present in the structure of our brains and impossible to avoid, but recognizing them helps us discern between trivial and important decisions and invest the appropriate intellectual capital. Put another way, take a beat and you increase the likelihood of making a better decision.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Though he was a psychologist by training, Kahneman got his Nobel Prize for economics. Before him, economists relied on the assumption of a homo economicus, as the prize committee wrote, a self-interested being capable of rational decision-making. But Kahneman, quote, demonstrated how human decisions may systematically depart from those predicted by standard economic theory, unquote. That dry language obscures an intellectual nuclear detonation. obscures an intellectual nuclear detonation. Expectations about human decisions, whether to work at a certain job,
Starting point is 00:06:28 how much to pay for a specific good, are the foundation of economic theory. Kahneman showed those expectations were incorrect. One of Kahneman and Tversky's earliest insights was the simple observation that we feel the pain of loss more intensely than the pleasure of profit. It's irrational to an economist, but we put more value on not losing $100 than we do on gaining $100.
Starting point is 00:07:02 We also have a skewed perception of probable gains and losses. We overestimate the likelihood of unlikely things. Insurance is a profitable business because people would rather suffer a series of guaranteed small losses, premiums, to avoid the risk of a single but unlikely catastrophic loss. The healthy profit margins of insurance companies reflect our tendency to overestimate the likelihood of calamities. Overestimating an unlikely outcome is also the secret behind the lotto, which offers terrible odds.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Some examples of how this has influenced my actions. Note, I am not claiming these are the right way to put Kahneman's insights to use, just my way. What I've done. I actively limit the number of decisions I have to make to preserve neuron power for the key ones. I have other people order for me at restaurants. I have a uniform for work and working out, wearing the same thing every day.
Starting point is 00:08:06 And someone else buys my clothes. I delegate the majority of decisions at ProfG Media. I participate in a one-hour weekly editorial meeting and check in with my executive producer two times per month on business issues. I have not planned a vacation in 20 years or put anything on my calendar in 10. Despite having made more than 30 investments in private firms over the past decade, I review
Starting point is 00:08:33 few documents and rarely even sign them. That's all handled by counsel. I try to reserve the largest possible cache of gray matter for research, thinking, storytelling writing, presentations, etc. and investment decisions. Over the next five years I plan to outsource all investment decisions so I can focus on storytelling. Seven years ago I cancelled all my insurance coverage, health, life, property, flood, et cetera. I don't own a car, but when I did, we purchased the minimum amount required by law.
Starting point is 00:09:13 This is a position of privilege. Don't cancel your health insurance, as there is no disease or property loss that would cause me financial strain. Since adopting this strategy I've saved 1.4 million dollars in premiums. My belief in the market's collective loss aversion has reshaped my investment portfolio over the past decade. The majority, 90 plus percent, of my investments used to be in publicly traded stocks.
Starting point is 00:09:48 That share is now less than 20 percent. Instead, I lean into my access to private companies as I can absorb big losses and withstand illiquidity. Per Kahneman, there have been periods of real pain. In the last 12 months, I've registered four wipeouts, four investments that dropped to zero. However, two other investments registered a 4X and a 25X return. My net return has beaten the market, but it's been more taxing emotionally than just investing in SPY as I have trouble shaking the big losses."
Starting point is 00:10:30 Again, making Kahneman's point. Prospect Theory won Kahneman his Nobel, but he's best known for his seminal book, Thinking Fast and Slow. The titular concept that we have two thinking systems, a fast one for intuitive emotional insights and a slow one for logical calculated decisions is something that has saved me from me dozens of times. Our fast thinking system is an incredible tool. It allows us to drive cars, compare prices, recognize friends at a distance, and play
Starting point is 00:11:13 sports. But its availability makes us lazy. Why do the hard work of thinking through a problem when we can just go with our gut. In any decision of consequence, it's good policy to slow down, get out of the stimulus response cycle, and let your slow thinking catch up. That's not to say we should disregard our gut. Just don't let it take the wheel. Specifically, I try to be vigilant about not letting my fast system make decisions that merit the attention of my slow system. Often these are reactions to things that upset me.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Last week a journalist who's active on social media posted on threads that Jonathan Height and I were grifters and that I do not care about young people. This pissed me off. Feeling threatened, my lizard brain took over, and I saw the situation as a conflict, a threat to my standing in the community. That framing, courtesy of my instinctive, fast-thinking system, dominated my consciousness for the next four hours, distracting me from my kids and vacation. I drafted an angry response to counter the threat.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Then I shared the situation with several members of my team. Able to evaluate the situation dispassionately, they were universal in their response. Let it go. I was just playing into an attempt to draw attention with ad hominem attacks the algorithms love like Trump or Musk. The learning, other than social media, is a cancer. Speaking to others before acting is a great way to slow your thinking. In 2010, Kahneman and another Nobel winner, Angus Deaton, published a study which appeared
Starting point is 00:13:12 to show conclusively that income was strongly correlated with happiness at low income levels, but that income above $75,000 had no impact on happiness. The study was widely celebrated, but in 2021, a much less famous academic, Matthew Killingsworth at Wharton, published a paper reaching a contrary conclusion based on a sophisticated smartphone-based happiness tracking system. Rather than ignore the unknown academic challenging him or using his global fame to undermine the upstart, as is the norm in Congress or pretty much anywhere else, Kahneman teamed up with Killingsworth. They engaged in a collaboration
Starting point is 00:13:59 alongside a third academic neutral to the dispute, a process Kahneman pioneered. Working together, they found that Kahneman's original study had measured the decrease in unhappiness but hadn't captured the upside high income people enjoyed. When more carefully measured, happiness did continue rising with income. However, there were dramatic diminishing returns. There were real gains to happiness in moving from $100,000 income to $200,000, but to see that same gain again required another doubling of income to $400,000. Extend the curve, and it flattens further.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I believe this should influence tax policy. A substantial increase in the progressivity of income tax would offer a net positive in overall wellbeing. According to the IRS, 26,576 U.S. households reported income of over $10 billion in 2020, totaling $824 billion in income. We collected $210 billion in income tax from these filers,
Starting point is 00:15:25 or 25% of their income. We collected $210 billion in income tax from these filers, or 25% of their income. If we collected an additional 25% of just the income over $10 million, there would be little impact on the lifestyle or happiness of these taxpayers. But the additional $140 billion in revenue could cut child poverty in half $100 billion and end homelessness $20 billion.
Starting point is 00:15:56 These investments would generate a massive increase in the well-being of our commonwealth and a huge economic boon. These societal ills cost us trillions in lost productivity. Plus, we'd have enough left over to pay for most of NASA $25 billion. And rich people love space. Ideas are yours to play with, disassemble, shape, and apply where needed. I've taken the idea of slowing down and mixed it with atheism and stoicism to enhance my personal relationships.
Starting point is 00:16:39 When my kids are disagreeable, i.e. awful, or my partner is upset or angry, I often respond as if it's a threat to my authority or value. I reflexively escalate and get back in their faces. I now try to disassociate. What I mean by that, I take myself out of my self and see someone I care about upset. Being an observer versus being in the line of fire inspires different emotions. When my kid is agitated, I recognize it's more about what they are experiencing elsewhere and they know that no matter how unreasonable they are, I will still love them unconditionally. When my partner is upset, my role is to notice it, to give witness to their life.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Their emotions matter, regardless of my ego or the perceived criticism. I can take arrows, get shot in the face, and never lose sight of my role as their protector. I am the man of the house. If that sounds like we digress to traditional gender roles, trust your instincts. I've slowed down, thought about it, and determined it works for us. Life is so rich.

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