The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway - Scott’s Struggle With Body Dysmorphia, the Affordability Crisis, and the Cost of Ambition
Episode Date: January 30, 2026Scott Galloway opens up about his lifelong struggle with body dysmorphia, breaks down the psychology behind the affordability crisis, and shares hard-earned lessons about ambition, sacrifice, and rela...tionships. Want to be featured in a future episode? Send a voice recording to officehours@profgmedia.com, or drop your question in the r/ScottGalloway subreddit. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Question number one.
Our first question comes from Neat Extension 6877 on Reddit.
They say, hi, I had a question in regards to your recent procedures.
I was wondering how you would address the rise in mail augmentations and things including eating disorders
and body dysmorphia with young men. The topic is usually targeted towards females. I know you've
mentioned your body dysmorphia and was curious if you had discussions with your sons about the condition.
How can we help young men navigate these issues from a different perspective? I hope you're healing well and happy with
results. Okay, so my quote unquote procedure and body dysmorphia aren't really connected. I got kicked in the
face playing soccer when I was in high school. My nose is always gone to the right and I wanted to fix it.
I'm being enough to have it done, but I'm not vain enough to really, I don't know if it really did anything, quite frankly.
Unfortunately, my iPhone still recognizes me on face recognition, so, and most people who see me don't see any difference. That's not where my body dysmorphia has manifested. My body dysmorphia was growing up. My mom was British and not home a lot. So that meant food was a punishment. She didn't cook a lot. And when she did cook, it was shepherd's pie. No joke. She would on Sunday make a giant vat of shepherd's pie. And that night it was actually tolerable, even good. And then we'd freeze it. And for the next seven nights, I had the delight of crusting off a piece of frozen shepherd's.
Pupport's pie, putting it into a microwave that sounded like Chernobyl right before it blew,
and then eating this kind of wet Shepard's Pie thing. And so food was not something I've ever enjoyed.
I'm not a foodie. Food, quite frankly, no one feels sorry for me. Food is a tax for me. If we're up to
me, I wouldn't eat a lot. My system will call me at 2 p.m. and say, I can tell you haven't eaten.
And she's right, I haven't eaten since I got up. I could drop 10 or 15 pounds, no problem
in about two months. And again, see above, no one's going to feel sorry for me. But I grew up painfully
thin. When I got my driver's license, I was 5, 10, 120. When I got to college, I was 6'1.
140 pounds, maybe, and with bad acne, and I was just very self-conscious about my looks.
Now, in some ways, that was good because it taught me that if I ever wanted to have any social
capital, I would need to develop other skills, and I developed, I think, a really strong sense
of humor. And that was key for me and is serving me well my whole life. But it was comical in high
school, and Steve Martin, I'm dating myself. In college, I started lifting weights and started taking
protein powder, went on acutane, my skin cleared up, and by the time I was, on end of my sophomore
year, I was 6 to 190 pounds, and quite frankly, I was ripped. And to be blonde, I started getting
laid. And I really liked that. I really enjoyed that. And just a lot of confidence, a lot of self-esteem
came from being strong, if you will, or not being skinny. And so I associate good things with
not being skinny. So even though I'm still 6 to 187 pounds, you know, everything's kind of shifted a little bit.
But when I look in the mirror, I see someone who's emaciated. And I know that my brain's been rewired, and I don't see
the real me, but I have tremendous, or when I was a young person, and I think most people have body
dysmorphia, but for mine, it was more about weight. So back to cosmetic procedures, about two
million men a year undergo cosmetic procedures. I would bet that within 10 or 20 years,
people who have money, the two-thirds of men and women will undergo some sort of cosmetic procedures.
And there's different levels. You can get Botox, you can get fillers. I bet a lot of it will be
non-surgical. But it's kind of that saying, you're not ugly, you're poor. And
we have such a looks at age of society now. I think the emphasis to look young, it's always been there for
women. Women are disproportionately evaluated on their aesthetics, men disproportionately evaluated on their
economic viability. But now economic viability is, as you get older, kind of your ability to come
across is vigorous and youthful. So I think a great place to invest or work is in, I don't know what
you call it, the aesthetics industry. It used to be men were only about 5 to 6% of patients. Now they're
pushing 10%. I believe, so their shares doubled. I believe that'll go to a third.
But I'm now doing, you're talking to someone who never took a, I literally never took a pill or had caffeine until I was 45.
Now I'm just this guy that cliche with a pillbox.
I do N-A-D treatments, vitamin A, B, D.
Do I do E?
I do all sorts of shit.
I'm on testosterone therapy.
So I'm doing kind of everything.
I haven't had a lot of cosmetic procedures.
Mine were pretty PG-13, if you will.
I don't know if they worked or not.
I don't know.
Anyways, I'm kind of fascinated with the technology.
But I think you're going to see the pretty big increase.
I think body dysmorphia is something that most people saw.
from. And what I would say is, I don't even feel qualified to talk about it. Supposedly eating
disorders are the hardest to kick. Men make up only about 10% of eating disorder patients, but
community studies suggest they may represent closer to 25% because there's more of a taboo and men
don't talk about it. So there's a big gap between how many men are affected and how many men
actually talk about it. Body dysmorphia affects, according to research, about 2% of the general
population. I think that's bullshit. I think it's much more than that.
study found that nearly 3% of young men show signs of muscle dysmorphia. That's what I had. I could
never be big enough. I now look back when I was working out a lot of my 30s, I got pretty big.
And even then, I thought I wasn't big enough. So you can see how it happens. And I can relate to
young women who see Instagram and think that they can never be thin enough. And that's what girls and
young women are seeing as are aspirational figures. I think it's actually very unhealthy. But in terms of
body dysmorphia, mine's gotten a lot better as I've gotten older. Simply put, I just am more
confident, more experienced relationships. I'm sort of ready to go full ugly, trying to hold on to
being, you know, I always say to my friends, it's not easy to be a four on a scale of one to ten.
I'm kind of ready just to just give up and go to the three, two, and the one of what it means to be
old and just kind of ugly. I'm ready for it. I'm sort of here for it. I've come to grips with
that, and I'm no longer trying as hard, although having said that, I just had a cosmetic procedure.
Anyway, body dysmorphy, obviously, if you feel like you suffer from it or would benefit
from therapy, I think that would, that's a great idea if you have the money and access. But I think it's
something a lot of us. I think very few people look in the mirror and think, nailed it. So I think
it's a big issue. And this is all a long-witted way of saying I'm not qualified to speak deeply
to the issue other than to say, I had it. I felt like I was never big or muscular enough. It's something
that's haunted me my whole life and slowly but surely I've grown out of it and just try to rationally
think about my height, my weight, staying in shape, exercising a lot, eating well. And as I get
old are trying to cut down the alcohol.
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Thanks for the question.
Question number two.
Question two comes from a listener who emailed us, they say,
total fan here.
A little totally thank you.
A recent economist article downplayed affordability as a crisis,
noting that wages for the working class and working poor have kept pace with
inflation or better.
Do you agree?
My understanding is the percentage of homeownership in recent decades has ranged between 60 and 70 percent.
Is that still the case?
Or are those 30 percent of us who not own homes?
Just coming to the sad realization there in that 30 percent, appreciate your thoughts on all of the above.
Okay, so there's some data here.
I saw that article.
I thought it was really interesting.
The economist article, this question refers to, is titled, the American Affordability Crisis
is mostly a mirage.
It was published in late December.
The economist loves to be provocative.
It claims that real wages have risen across much of the income district.
and purchasing power are still relatively strong, undermining the idea that Americans on average
are dramatically worse off than previous generations. So a direct quote from the article,
real wages are close to record highs across the income spectrum, but are strongest of all for the
poorest, never has life been so affordable in America for so many. The argument there is that much of
the feeling of a crisis is driven by psychology, people focusing on price levels rather than inflation
rates, and politics rather than actual deterioration of fundamentally affordable metrics, rather than
fundamental affordability metrics. Okay, so some additional context here.
with respect to wages. The economist isn't totally wrong, but I think they missed part of the picture.
According to the article, price levels are up around 25% versus before the pandemic, which means
people are actually paying higher prices. But it points out that nominal wages have risen by around
30% over the same period. Real wages, meaning wages adjusted for inflation, have also recovered since
the pandemic. Inflation adjusted pay today is slightly higher than in 2019, and lower income workers
actually saw faster wage growth. But that's an average story. Where's the real pressure? So I think a
couple things are happening here, and I think the key word is the psychology or psychology,
and that is, when you think about the things that get you ahead and maybe help you build a family,
it's education, and it's housing. And housing plays a big psychological impact on people.
Also, I think families are really struggling with the downside of what is a corrupt cartel
called higher education, of which I'm a member of, where we purposely arbitrage great kids or good kids
down to an average school that engages in price collusion such that an average school charges what
a great school charges, even a little bit more because most great schools have more donors and
financial aid. So you get arbed from Princeton and NYU or whatever down to a second tier school.
I won't name a second tier school because people are so sensitive about their schools.
But that school, even though it's second tier, you're paying a Mercedes price for a Hyundai product,
making education just unaffordable for most middle class households.
So the means of getting ahead, the means of establishing a family have outpaced, and this takes a real psychological toll.
Now, even bigger than that, even bigger than that.
Okay, if you, I love Jimmy Carr.
I don't know if you see, he's my new Yoda, he points out that if you have Netflix and a hot shower, you're kind of living.
Warren Buffett said the average middle class person lives a better life than the wealthiest person in the world 100 years ago.
He's right.
I'll take Netflix and Novocaine versus being the Duke of Earl in the late 19th century, hands down.
that middle class person has a much better life right now. The problem is that's not the way our
brain works. The way our brain works is we pull up Instagram and we see that our friends are at the
Amangani in Utah having $40 cocktails after borrowing, you know, Eath and making millions of dollars
and are buying a condo in Miami and just bought a brand new, you know, range rover and you think,
okay, that's my benchmark. Oh, and by the way, she has a boyfriend with ripped abs. My boyfriend
and does not have ripped abs and does not making millions of dollars, I'm a failure. And so the 0.1%
dominate 90% or the image of the 0.1% dominate 90% of our social feeds and create just unrealistic
expectations and it depresses us. And that is happiness is a function of your prosperity
minus your expectations. And our expectations have just been taught to vastly outpace any reasonable
increase in our prosperity. I even find this just on a basic level the difference between men and women.
Men are, at least in my generation, were raised to believe that they should earn enough money to have a
family, that that's their right. And so when they're not making a shit ton of money, they feel
angry and entitled. Whereas I think a lot of women were brought up to think that, oh, you just want to
make the same as a man. That's your goal. And so I have universally found in compensation discussions
that it's always the white dudes, and I'm playing identity politics here, who are always like
pissed off about their compensation. And again, it goes back to one thing. It goes back to expectations. So,
I think, one, the key markers of prosperity, your ability to get certification you need to move ahead,
buy home, outpaced inflation. And two, I mean, I just want stat. First-time homebuyers now just make up
20% of home purchases. That's down from 40% historically. So now only one in five home purchases are
first-time buyers. The average age of a first-time homebuyer is not 40 years old. That's the highest it's ever
men. Or put on, you know, wages may be keeping up with inflation, but they're not keeping up with
the price of entry into wealth, and that is your ability to start building a life and saving
money. Some things have gone down in price. The average price of retail price of clothes has gone
down 50%. Cars has gone down, the college tuition has gone up, also medical care. And you
want to talk about something that really weighs on the psyche and the anxiety of America. 40% of
American homes have some sort of medical or dental debt. Imagine you're a single mother and your
daughters in screaming to pain from a root canal. You have to go into debt, such, such.
I mean, you got to get that root canal, right? So this really attacks people's self-esteem,
and also child care is dramatically increased. So what do you have? It's hard to go to work and get
ahead because of child care. It's really hard to get the certification you need to substantially
step up in your career because of college. And if you get sick, I'd help you. You're kind of out on your
own. And then you layer in all of that and expectation that if you're not a millionaire by the time you're 30,
you've fucked up. So definitely some true to the notion that the affordability crisis on some metrics
is not panned out, but psychologically what we have is a nation that is more fearful and more anxious
and feels less secure about their position in the world relative to everybody else. Thanks for the
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Our final question comes from Moonlight Climber on Reddit.
I'm in my late 20s in a serious relationship and trying to balance ambition with partnership.
My partner is a position tied to one location.
I'm starting a company and travel frequently for work and family.
You've built a big career that requires a lot of travel.
How did you maintain a close relationship with your partner?
Specifically, when your kids were younger, was your traveler a source of tension?
If so, what actually worked?
Setting up a communication cadence, boundaries, traveling together, looking back, what would you do differently?
Well, given that I'm divorced, I'd probably do a lot differently.
I may not have relevant experience here because I didn't have kids until I was 42, and one of the reasons I didn't have them was I wanted to
focus on my career. My work and not being present and not investing in my marriage and my selfishness,
all didn't help see above divorced. But I can't blame that on a lack of balance or not having kids.
I just think I was kind of me, me, me, me all the time. Also, I think generally it's tough to get married
when you young. I think between the ages of 24 and 34, you're a pretty different person. So unless you're
investing a lot in the relationship and time with each other, it's pretty easy to kind of grow apart and have
different priorities. Hey, let's move to New York where I can be a fucking master of the universe. Hey, I want to move
closer to my parents and, you know, Santa Clarita. What? What do you want to do? You didn't tell me that.
You want our kids to go to church? What the fuck? Anyway, how do you balance? Brother, there is no balance.
I think if you have the right partner and you're aligned, I'd say it's more about alignment than balance.
And that is, is it important to your partner and you that you have a certain level of economic or
influence capital by a certain age? If so, it's just going to require a massive amount of commitment
that will involve you not spending as much time together. And is your partner aligned with that? One thing,
I will give to my ex-wife was she was always on board with that. She was a security analyst. We were working all the
fucking time. So I think it's more about alignment that you have the type of conversation with your
partner, right? This is the life we want. And in order to get the life we want, it's going to
require a certain amount of sacrifice for both of us. My sacrifice might be that I have to molest the earth
every year. And I spent, for the last 30 years, I've spent 180 days plus a year on the road. I'm at
fucking Jackson Hall right now. I was in Davos three days ago. And then before that, I was in New York.
I mean, I've been all over the place. And it takes a toll. But if you want a certain level of economic
security, it's going to take a sacrifice. The key is just having an open and honest conversation.
And then also maybe being open and honest about, all right, maybe I need to dial it back and we need to temper our expectations around what's attainable for us.
Technology does play a role. What I do now that is really helpful, I have alarms to go off my phone and I face-time both my boys every night at the same time.
So I'm in Jackson Hole. It's Mountain Central time. So my alarm.
is set to 2.30 p.m. Mount Central time, which is 9.30 their time, and then I usually call them
or FaceTime them. And even if they don't pick up, I just leave them a quick note. They usually call
me back. But I just want them to know I'm thinking about them every day. And I want to see them,
say hi. And I find that is really helpful. And it beats when I was living with my father sometimes
in the summer after my mom and dad got divorced and I'd have to shuttle downtown in Chicago to use
was Watzline because my dad was too cheap to let me call my mom from our phone. Yeah, breakups.
Monopoly's aren't a bad thing. You have to send a kid to downtown fucking Chicago to call his mom
on the Watts line. Anyway, anywho, yeah, I think it's alignment with your partner and I think
leveraging technology and also just, it sucks to be a grownup. I didn't see my boys a lot
when they were young. I remember coming home and getting all bummed out because I'd be gone,
sometimes I've gone for three weeks at a time when I was building L2 and traveling to Europe during
Thanksgiving because we thought we could laugh to competition. And I
I'd come home and I'd see with my oldest Alec who was, you know, five or six, I'd be like,
Jesus Christ, he's grown. Like I'd pop my head in at night and I'd look at him and he'd grown.
And it would just really bum me out. But the bottom line is, I now get to do wonderful things with my kids.
As they got older and I got more economically secure, I was able to spend a disproportionate amount
of time with them. So boss, you know, there's no balance here. There's just tradeoffs.
And you have to get alignment with your partner and decide, you know, what sacrifices are you willing
to make or not make now? And just be honest about the consequences of those sacrifices.
or the upside of those sacrifices.
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