The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway - Why International Stocks Are Beating the S&P + How Scott Invests his Money
Episode Date: April 27, 2026Scott Galloway answers audience questions from this year’s SXSW – breaking down why his prediction that international stocks would beat the S&P played out, how he personally invests his money, and... why America's education system is failing the kids who need it most. Want to be featured in a future episode? Send a voice recording to officehours@profgmedia.com, or drop your question in the r/ScottGalloway subreddit. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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on. Welcome to Office Hours with Prop G, where we answer your questions about business, big tech
entrepreneurship, and whatever else is on your mind. Today's episode includes questions from our time
in Austin, specifically South by Southwest, which I really enjoy. These are questions presented to
us from our listeners back in March at South by Southwest. Question number one. Scott, thanks for
coming to South by Southwest. My question is related to last year you had recommended to
diversify away from emerging markets and international markets. And I know with everything
happening in the Middle East, there's been a big plummet in those indices. Do you still recommend
diversifying away from the U.S. stock market and into international markets? And do you still
see a value there based on their energy reliance and things like that? Thanks for coming.
So every year we make a series of predictions. And the one I'm most proud of is that last year we
predicted that for the first time in, what, 17 years, there'd be a rotation out of U.S. stocks into
emerging market stocks and emerging markets would outperform U.S. stocks. And we got a ton of shit
for this. Never bet against the U.S. is the home of AI. And look what's happened. If you watched
our most recent Prop G-Pod or listened with Josh Brown, who's one of our kind of fan favorites
and a friend of the pod, here's some data from that episode. On a rolling one-year basis,
developed markets outside of the U.S. are up 48 percent. Emerging markets,
up 55% and the S&P 500 is up 34%.
Year to date in 2026,
emerging markets are up 5%.
And developed markets, XUS, are up 2.4%.
And the S&P is down 3%.
There's just no arguing here.
International is winning, even despite the Iran shock.
And it doesn't matter which style you pick or asset class.
Every version of international is beating the U.S. equivalent year to date.
International growth stocks are up 5.5% versus U.S.
down two. International momentum is up 9.2 versus the U.S. at 1.3. International quality is up 7.1
versus U.S. at 1.8. And as Josh put it, it almost doesn't matter what stocks you buy. If you have
any global allocation, your portfolio looks amazing right now. Emerging markets are at about 13 and a
half forward earnings versus developed markets at 20. I think the U.S. or the S&P is now on 19. And the
S&P was at about 23 and has come down to 19, as I said. That gap is unusually wide, even by
financial standards. Even with the international markets coming up and U.S. markets coming down,
there's still a pretty big delta here. EM Ford P.E. is also well below its own trailing PE
of 18.8, meaning analysts are already pricing in a big earnings surge in 2026 to justify current
prices. J.P. Morgan is forecasting 40% earnings per share growth in emerging markets this year.
So what do you have? Cheap stocks plus strong earnings growth means you capture both multiple expansion and earnings expansion simultaneously.
Multiple expansion is something most investors don't understand. And if you invested in Latin America the last 10 or 15 years, it didn't matter how well the underlying company was doing because you can't un-you just can't outrun multiple contraction. At the same time, you look like a fucking genius if there's multiple expansion. So the fear is, and what do you do is look at how concentrated you are. And if you're suffering from about a U.S.
concentration risk. The top 10 stocks now make up 40% of the S&P 500, more than double their 19% share in 2015, and the highest level since 1972.
By contrast, the top 10 make up just 13% of the international equivalent, the MSCI. Most mega-cap stocks peaked in November 2025.
The S&P's forward PE has already compressed from 23, as we referenced earlier to 19 this year.
So in some, if you think, if you're on SPY, if you think you're in the S&P that you're diversified,
you're not about 40% of your assets are in just 10 stocks and you're in a market that is still expensive on a relative basis.
Let's talk a little bit about the dollar.
The DXY fell nearly 10% in 2025.
That's the worst performance in over a decade, driven by fiscal concerns, policy uncertainty,
and eroding confidence in U.S. exceptionalism.
Morgan Stanley warned in March of 26 that the dollars in Iran war rally is short-lived.
and expects further weakening as U.S. Europe rate differential shrink in the war curbs economic growth.
A weaker dollar is a direct mechanical tailwind for U.S.-based international investors.
Currency efforts drove nearly half of international returns in 2025,
and some are out of fucking control.
Deficit spending, fiscal irresponsibility, sclerotic foreign policy,
head-up-your-ass decisions in terms of our allies,
mean that the dollar is weakening as his confidence in the United States.
Also, I think that some of the kind of autocratic, cronious approach to companies taking golden chairs in Intel and in U.S. steel and punishing certain companies that don't support this administration has weakened one of the underpinnings of why we trade at a premium in terms of a P.E. multiple, and that is rule of law. And I think that is being eroded and people are rotating out of U.S. stocks into other stocks. So I still think this trade has juice left, if you will. In some,
And I've been doing this. I bought a British Aerospace Company. I'm actually looking at Macaulacro Libre or a Latin American stock. And my biggest investment is in a fund that finds special situations outside of the U.S. In sum, this is the prediction from a financial standpoint I'm most proud of because it was definitely a contrarian. It has played out, and I still think it has legs.
Question number two. Hey, Professor Galloway. This is Chris Marr. I live in the New York City area.
and I run a small social impact venture fund.
You look at tons and tons of investment opportunities,
and I'm sure you get bombarded with them,
but how can people actually get legitimate investment opportunities
in front of you to evaluate?
To be blunt, it's difficult.
I get pitched a lot on small angel investment opportunities.
I don't really do angel investing unless it's a friend,
and I do, I ride it off.
I'll throw $50,000 in an idea if I like that,
you know, if I'm friends of the person
and just assume it's, it's, it's,
going to go away. I basically invest in public stocks and then private opportunities where I feel like
I have an edge where a Tier 1 VC has invited me in with no fees into a company that they've done
diligence on and they'll maybe even give me additional juice or boost my participation by going
on the board. So I basically only invest in stuff where I feel one, it's a great public company
where I can just hold it and give it to my kids and Apple and Amazon, something like that.
or I feel like I have some sort of an edge.
I get deal flow because of the people I know
or I get some sort of economic advantage.
I've had investment opportunities
where if I invest a million bucks,
they give me $2 million at equity
if I go on the board.
If I do that enough times,
I should be able to do okay.
And now at this point in my life,
I'm looking not to get rich,
but to not get poor.
So I try and diversify a lot.
But in terms of just an inbound inquiry,
would you be interested in investing in this company,
I almost never do that.
Only one in seven angel companies ever get liquidity or get a return.
I'm not smart enough to kind of be in that ecosystem.
The reason why people pitch me on that is they want me involved.
And I like to think I'm generous with everything but my time.
So I'm trying to get off of boards and have fewer investments, if you will.
And then the other kind of the third leg of the stool, private companies who I have an edge,
public companies that I want in my trust, is real estate.
My thesis is that income inequality is only going to get worse.
And by the way, I don't think it's a good thing, but it's just an observation and that wealthy people are the super wealthy, as I identified by people who have over 50 million in assets, want to live in one of five cities, Dubai, London, New York, Palm Beach, or Aspen.
And now I think Dubai's falling off the list because of the war of Iran.
It's just so ironic we thought that putting U.S. bases in the Gulf would be a secure.
blanket and intended to being a bullseye. Anyways, and I own homes the four of the five. I own homes in all of
those cities except for Dubai. And I own some rental properties because I think that you're going to see
just an explosion in the values because the rich or the super rich are the most boring people in the world.
What do I mean by that? They all look, smell, and feel exactly the fucking same. They all vacation in St. Bart's,
wear them as, and try and get their kids into U.S. Ivy League schools. And you could put 10 of them in a room,
and they literally look like the same people,
whether it's a billionaire from Buenos Aires
or an industrial magnet from Hamburg, Germany,
they're remarkably similar.
Once you get into the middle class,
different food, different clothes, different tastes,
much more heterogeneous.
Anyways, they all want to live in the same goddamn places.
And all these places have finite real estate.
I also love investing in real estate
because I get to consume it.
Most of these are homes that I spend time in.
I love kind of one of my hobbies
is furniture and interior design.
It's sort of a creative outlet for me.
And the other thing I love about investing in real estate is I don't have a mark of it.
By the way, as I say all this, I realize I come from tremendous privilege.
I'm not suggesting that everyone should be able to do this or can do this.
I recognize my privilege.
There's my land acknowledgement.
See above, my mother was a typist.
But I like it because there's not a mark every day.
And I don't, with my stocks, I'll get off this pod.
I'll check my stocks.
And I find that's unhealthy.
and takes my blood pressure up and down.
It's kind of fun, but it's also sometimes unhealthy.
Whereas real estate, you really don't have a mark,
and I think that's kind of nice.
So those are where my assets are.
So all the kind of inbound,
hey, I have a small little SaaS platform,
or I'm opening gyms,
or I have, everyone thinks I'm in love with marijuana
because I said I do edibles, which I do,
but I'm constantly getting pitched on
THC-infused beverages or something like that.
I don't do that stuff because I don't have the time and I don't have the skill set to evaluate angel investing.
By the way, the worst part of the capital structure or the worst asset class is angel investing.
Even if you find a good company, you might be washed out at some point.
And it just takes forever.
And it's a ton of investment in time.
Although I know a lot of guys my age who really enjoy angel investing because there's a chance for them to mentor young people.
But in some, how do you get an investment in front of me?
Quite frankly, you probably don't.
That's not that aspirational.
Anyways, thanks for the question.
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Question number three.
What insight
would you have for teachers
now?
Because things are changing
really fast and evolving
really quickly
and how that impacts
classroom stuff
because it's completely
upended everything
everybody does
on the academic side.
Thanks for the question.
So first off, I hate,
I'm not going to call you a hero.
I hate it when people call any profession heroes.
If someone calls you a hero,
it means you're being fucked.
What do I mean by that?
It means you're underpaid and overworked.
No one ever calls a CEO or a radiologist a hero.
They call public workers or military
or teachers are heroes or nurses,
which means they're being dramatically underpaid.
So we call them heroes in commercials
to sell more fucking life insurance
and assume that that's some sort of compensation. Don't call them heroes, pay them a fair wage. Let me give you some data here. Teachers reported working an average of 49 hours per week in 2025, 10 hours more than their contracted hours.
Average-based salary was $73,000 versus $103,000 for comparable college-educated workers. So teachers are making about 30% less. U.S. teachers average 53 hours a week. OECD average is 40 hours. So get this. U.S. workers are,
working 30% more U.S. teachers, ranging from 33 hours in Finland to 56 in Japan.
Over 8 and 10 students reported using generative AI during the 2025 school year.
89% have used chat GPT for homework, though many don't consider it cheating.
94% of AI generated work still goes undetected, according to research.
Faculty have been told a blanket ban on AI is not a viable policy.
Schools are scrapping take-home tests, returning to pen and paper in-class exams,
and moving to flipped classrooms where homework is done in class instead.
So, look, I'm of two minds here because I think the labor market needs to be supply and demand.
And that is if people are willing to work and teaching because they get psychic reward from it and feel like they're doing good work,
they're naturally going to make less money.
At the same time, it's hard to imagine a more important job in terms of tomorrow's youth.
So it makes sense probably to have some sort of federal benefits,
similar to what we do with the military where they get to shop at government stores or lower prices.
I think it's called the PX or whatever it's called, access to certain types of insurance, lower cost.
I know at the school, my son's school, who I was on the board of in Gulfstream, Florida, we had housing for teachers.
I have seen, I do think their salaries are going to go up.
I wish I had data on this because I think that schools are recognizing.
I think there's a bit of a battle for good, really quality teachers.
And parents, especially private schools who have the money, will find ways.
to compensate those people.
I think there's going to be a lot of opportunity
post that career for good teachers.
So I'm actually hopeful that teachers
are going to make more money moving forward.
I think a bigger threat than AI is phones,
and that is I think we're sending into these classrooms
a group of dopa-addicted monsters
who just can't wait to stop learning
and check their Instagram
to see how many likes they got from their post
from the school cafeteria.
the most accretive thing that's happened to schools in terms of test scores is the banning of phones.
I think the most consequential scholar of our generation is my colleague Jonathan Haidt,
who is getting phones because of his book The Interest Generation banned in schools in entire countries.
So I'm actually hopeful through K through 12.
I think AI will help bring up the lowest quartile of underfunded schools with the most crowded classrooms.
sort of AI agents can serve as tutors because, and I know this personally as someone who has some
money, the education industrial complex for the wealthy just as outclasses low-income households.
So the average public school spends $15,000 per student in low-income area, $10,000 per student.
The average private school, get this, spends $72,000 per student.
So let's look at 12 years of primary education.
you have 180,000 being spent on the average kid,
and you have about 900,000 being spent on the kid from the wealthy household
that gets to go to private school, which is just fucking insane.
Well, of course kids from wealthy households are just much better prepared for college,
more qualified, and it shows.
What's interesting is that the average SAT score for a middle-income kid
is 120 points greater than a lower-income kid,
but where income inequality goes just insane is the difference between middle income and upper-income,
because then against the above tutors, private schools, it's 250 points higher.
So if you were going to try and create an equivalent playing field for a low-income kid and a high-income kid,
in the SAT, you would spot the low-income kid at 370 points.
And I believe we should do that.
I don't believe in race-based affirmative action.
I think we needed it 60 years ago where the academic gap between black and white was double between rich and poor.
Now that is flipped.
in some, I don't think Trevor Noah or Eddie Murphy's children need any help. I think poor kids need help. And
the way we come together around this is that that would still impact 70% of the kids who get affirmative action now, because we still do have sort of an economic apartheid where white households, average wealth is 140 grand and Latino and black households. It's about 25 or 28 grand.
So what's needed here, affirmative action that puts more money in the pockets of parents from long-income and middle-income households, full stop.
I think it all kind of stops there.
I think income equality is just a virus in the United States.
And two, I think the market and maybe some federal programs availability around low-cost mortgages, housing credits, access to things like auto insurance and maybe medical care that's subsidized to trying to track more people into the field.
we definitely need more male teachers, 70 to 80 percent of primary school teachers are female.
I think school's been feminized and there's a bias against boys.
Boys are twice as likely to be suspended on a behavioral adjusted basis.
Anyways, back to teaching.
I think it's an outstanding profession.
I do think it's appreciated in that I do think there's going to be more competition for the best teachers
and you will see incomes start to increase.
But I think some school reform recognizing that we are creating a two-class
or two Americas and that the kids from wealthy households are just pulling away from the other kids.
I do think there's some government intervention required there.
I would like to tax private schools more.
I think there should be a $10,000 per head tax to send your kid to a private school.
If you exit the public school infrastructure, you are hurting it because the most important thing about a school is not its resources even.
It's engaged parents and wealthy households have the time for one or more of the parents being engaged.
Anyways, big topic of conversation, and very much appreciate the question.
That's all for this episode.
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