The Psychology of your 20s - 139. How to have better first dates!

Episode Date: October 31, 2023

Dating in our 20s can feel like a minefield, a lot of people don't know what they want, what they like, we get ghosted, we get stood up, and then there are the first dates. First dates can feel intimi...dating but today we are breaking down my 10 tips to have the best first dates of your life. By adopting the mindset that you are there to learn more about yourself and have a fun experience, we take first dates off a pedestal and lower the stakes. Dating is a skill than anything else, it is something that we get better at over time, so what are some ways that we can have better first dates from a psychological perspective, how can we really draw these people in, feel our best, feel most charismatic and in our power but also able to get what we want out of this experience: from the scent you wear, to the location you should choose, the nonverbal cues you should be putting out, how to leverage the power of suspense, all of that and more in this episode. Listen now.    Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatpsychologypodcast/     See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:38 Hello everybody. Welcome back to the show. Welcome back to the podcast. New listeners, old listeners, wherever you are in the world. It is so great to have you here back for another episode as we break down the psychology of our 20s. We are doing a fun episode today, something a little bit different than what we normally do, but I promise we are definitely not skipping any of the psychology behind this week's topic. And that topic is how to have better first dates in your 20s. I think dating in our 20s, let's not kid ourselves, feels like a little bit of a mind field because there is no right or wrong way to do it. And honestly, a lot of people don't really know what they want. They don't know what they like. They don't know what they're looking for.
Starting point is 00:03:33 It feels like there are a million choices out there, and yet no one, no one available, no one left single at the same time. And then there is the actual act of going on the dates. Also sometimes a nightmare, especially first dates when you don't really know someone beyond maybe a couple of messages. Often a lot of us find it easier to just not go, to just not deal with the hassle, then have to sit through another person telling us about their job and their work and their favourite colour. But I also have a different perspective for you. I think dating, especially in our
Starting point is 00:04:14 20s, is meant to be fun, is meant to give you good stories. And I truly believe that going on dates, seeing what you like and don't like the kind of people that are out there is actually going to help you learn so much more about yourself. I will say for the record, I am very much in a relationship, the best relationship of my life. But before I met him, I went on, I think, more first dates than I can count. Some of them were wonderful. Some of them were absolutely terrible. Some of them were awkward and confusing. Like, we all have those horror stories, right? But I think despite all of that, I have never not had fun. I have never once left to date being like, that was a waste of my time. Because my mindset towards dating, first,
Starting point is 00:05:02 dates in particular is that no matter what they think, no matter what the outcome is, no matter whether this person is the one, you are there for an experience and nothing more. And I've learned a few things about how to have really amazing first dates, ones that are memorable and exciting and sweet and most of all just really, really fun. So for all of you out there in the trenches of single life and dating right now. Maybe you've just hit a bad run of awful dates. You're never getting asked on second dates. You're not actually enjoying yourself
Starting point is 00:05:37 and you're beginning to really like question whether this is a waste of your time. This episode is for you. I've got 10 tips for you. And let me say this first, take this advice or leave it. Some of this is practical. It may not apply to you. But also, regardless of what anyone says,
Starting point is 00:05:54 and that includes myself, the most important factor is, you know, not formulaic. It's not based on how you dress. It's not based on how many good stories you tell how much you drink where you're going, the location. The key to really good first dates is just your authenticity. Someone who is confident in who they are, regardless of whether someone else likes them back, regardless of whether someone else thinks they're attractive or funny or intelligent, whatever. You're always going to have more success and have better first states or at least be more discerning if you are confident and if you know what you're looking for.
Starting point is 00:06:31 That's because I think A, you're not pretending to be someone that you're not and therefore you're not expending all of this energy into a character or a persona. You know, you want to actually find someone who likes you for you if you're looking for longevity and you're not going to get that by putting on an act because you won't be comfortable, you won't feel secure. And B, I think authenticity is also attractive. It is the most attractive part of a person, their own self-assurance and who they are where they belong, the treatment they deserve. Not everyone is going to be the love of your life. There will be some bad eggs, some kind of frogs that you have to kiss, but they are just part of the story, I think. That's what I always say, the tapestry of your 20s and who cares if they're not the
Starting point is 00:07:20 one, they give you something interesting to talk about because right now, I think especially during this decade, you should be the love of your life. The relationship you have with yourself is the most important one you are ever going to have, ever. So it's not worth compromising that just to receive the validation or acceptance of someone you really don't know that well. I also think dating is a bit of a game. It's a skill more than anything else, something that we get better at over time. So what are some of the ways that we can have better? of first dates from that perspective, from a psychological perspective as well. How can we really
Starting point is 00:07:59 feel our best, feel most charismatic, represent ourselves as best as we can and kind of be in our power, but also get what we want out of this experience. Well, I have all the tips from the scent you wear to the location you should choose, the nonverbal cues you should be putting out how to leverage the power of silence and suspense, all of that and more in this episode. So without further ado, let's get into my tips for having the best first dates in our 20s. 2%. That is the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available. I'm Michael Easter, and on my podcast, 2%, I break down the science of mental toughness, fitness, and building resilience in our strange modern world. I'll be speaking with writers,
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Starting point is 00:12:22 As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at Americopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until justice is served in Arizona. Listen to Love Trapped Podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. First dates are honestly some of my favorite kinds of dates because they are both simultaneously low stakes and high stakes at the same time. And the energy that that brings, the sense of anticipation of anything can happen is exciting. It's really addictive. You could end the date and be like, yeah, not for me.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I'm never going to see this person again. Or you can meet the love of your life on a rainy Monday night at an Italian place and suddenly all of those lost loves, all of those failed situationships, all of those heartbreaks no longer matter. But the trick here is twofold. First dates are going to be better when you go in with low expectations. So you take the low stakes approach. This is because it kind of leaves more space to be surprised.
Starting point is 00:13:31 rather than disappointed. If you go into a date thinking, okay, this is it, we are going to talk for hours, they're going to confess their love for me instantly, I would say 99% of the time, that won't happen. And you'll feel like the date is a failure or a waste. But if you approach it with the perspective of, this is just one night of my life and I'm going to meet someone new, I'm going to get out of the house, at the very least it's practice, you know, the small things, are going to seem so much more exciting and you're more likely to have a better time. They've actually tested this theory, this low stakes, low expectations approach in a number of academic studies and one of these was using video games. So they showed that when people had
Starting point is 00:14:19 really high expectations of what they were about to experience, the game they were about to play, they actually enjoyed it a lot less than people who had no idea and were just kind of there to see and have fun. And the same goes for dates, right? Like high expectations often means unrealistic expectations, which means you're probably going to leave feeling a little bit defeated. Now, I think importantly there is a difference between lowering your expectations and lowering your standards. I think expectations are about whether someone is going to meet your standards. So the standards stay unchanged. We do not lower our standards. But how you kind of appraise someone
Starting point is 00:15:04 else's ability to meet those standards should remain low until they prove you otherwise. So I'm going to explain this a little bit further. Basically, don't walk into every first date thinking that every person has it in them to treat you the way you deserve to be treated. And if they don't have it in them, if they aren't the one, that is not a reflection of you, but of them. Once again, the standards remain unchanged, but the expectations are lowered. Secondly, you're not going to get what you want out of a first day or any kind of dating-like interaction unless you're clear on what you want. And maybe you don't know what you want, you just want to have fun, that is still an intention.
Starting point is 00:15:48 I think we start to fear and avoid first days when we say that we want one thing and we actually expect something else. And I did a whole episode on this around dating with intention. And I think dating with intention doesn't necessarily mean that you're dating for commitment. Even if you're looking for something casual, that is totally fine. But what you need to be clear on is, is that actually what I want right now or am I lying to myself. Am I actually clear on my intentions here? Because I think if you go into a first day expecting, you know, to fall in love, but then you accept someone who does not have the
Starting point is 00:16:28 same intentions because you're kind of engaging in a little bit of delusion, it's just not going to be enjoyable. There won't be a future there. I think setting your intentions up will also help you beyond just first dates, but also in terms of an entire perspective shift on dating and what you're looking for. And I think to understand what you're looking for, you have to be clear around three questions. What do I want from this date? What do I want from this person? What do I want in the near future? And if you answer those honestly, you really do set yourself up for success. Okay, we're going to go back to our practical tips here. You've already taken a low stakes approach. Congratulations. You best believe that you know what you want.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Now we're going to look at first dates in three stages. The before, the during, and the after. And what kind of behaviours and habits in each of these stages is going to leave you feeling amazing each time, even if the person is, you know, I hate to say it, like a little bit of a loser, a little bit of a done. So before. Before the date, you are kind of in the process of courting this person. and maybe you have matched on a dating app or you met at a party a few weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Someone's like put you in touch. The sooner between that first connection and the first date, the better. Because you don't give yourself the time to, you know, kind of psych yourself out. You don't let your doubts sneak in. You don't waste your time. And you don't give yourself the chance to build up a fantasy image of this person in your head before actually getting to know them in real life. So I would say keep the texting to the minimum here.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Make it plan directed. Something I always used to say when I was kind of on the apps is that I'm not looking for a pen pal. I'm not looking to chat with you for a month before we actually meet because compatibility and chemistry, they are only really fully recognizable and proven in person. So based on those psychological principles of attraction that we talk about all the time.
Starting point is 00:18:40 We know that we are going to understand someone more like someone more when we leverage proximity. So actually being around them in person, not just familiarity that is brought through texting and such. So rule of thumb, one week of messaging and then someone has to make a move here. And that can be you. Just be like, hey, I have a question. when are you going to ask me out on a date? When are we going to go on a date? Get that online
Starting point is 00:19:09 interaction into a real world setting ASAP. My next tip is you pick the place. Something I think women in particular are afraid of doing is making an explicit move or being the one to plan and decide the date. I think we hear a lot around how we should expect someone else to take the lead because if they wanted to, they would. I think that's a great principle to hold, but honestly, and maybe this is controversial, I think that really feeds into some quite outdated norms on women needing to be led or feeling as if men get to call the shots
Starting point is 00:19:49 or should be in control of kind of romantic instances, of like romantic connection. Maybe you like the effort, I don't know, I feel like that's also totally fine, but I am a firm believer that even if they picked the date and the time, you pick the place. And that's for a number of reasons. Firstly, you are going to feel more comfortable in a place you're familiar with, which is going to come in handy when we're talking about feeling at ease, right?
Starting point is 00:20:18 You are going to feel more at ease when you're meeting someone new if you already know where you're going and you know the place. we already have, you know, one thing unfamiliar that we need to adapt to, that is that new person. So let's just keep it to that. You know, let's just keep one thing unfamiliar. Number two, like we've said from the beginning, dating should be fun. So make it fun by going to a place you already know you enjoy so that even if it's like a shit night, the conversation is bad. At least you got to have your favorite drink or your favorite meal or choose your. favorite activity. My fail-proof equation. The place should be less than a 15-minute walk from your
Starting point is 00:21:02 house. There should be other places around where you could carry on with a second activity, so like another drink, some dessert, lunch, if it goes really well. And if it doesn't go well, you know, you're back home and under the hour, you don't need to commute across town. It's a 15-minute walk. Comfort, simplicity, familiarity. Those are all good signs of a first-date location. Okay, so next we need to get into the mindset of dating, and this is all about cultivating our confidence. Confidence, I cannot stress this enough, is like the secret ingredient to attractiveness. So they published this study in, I think it was the personality and social psychology journal, and they found that confidence is a huge predictor of overall romantic attractiveness and
Starting point is 00:21:53 desirability. It continuously tops the list of most desirable traits in a romantic partner, but it's also going to allow you to feel so much less anxious and it's going to let you be in your own power and really not care about the other person's opinion of you unless it's positive. You know, you like yourself and if they like you, it's an added bonus. It's that awareness of who you regardless of how someone else sees you, that is where our confidence comes from and that confidence, when you are comfortable with yourself, it grants you like a certain kind of charm, a certain kind of glow or assertiveness that makes people more secure around you. It, you know, makes your date feel better and the overall energy is also going to be better.
Starting point is 00:22:45 It makes you seem more attractive. Also, one of my friends said this to me the other day and I was like, Wow, that is such good advice. This person knows nothing about you. They know nothing about your past, about who you are. You get to be who you want to be. You get to write the narrative. So sometimes the secret to a confidence boost is just to fake it to you make it. And we can do that by boosting our pre-date mood. So don't wear what you think they'll like or try and predict their preferences. wear something that makes you feel good. Also, you need a pre-date pump-up playlist.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I used to have one. I'm going to try and remember what it's called. Oh, I think it was literally called buttlift. Like, buttlift. I don't know why, but music in these scenarios, especially like your hype songs, are going to flood your brain with dopamine. It's going to make you motivated, confident,
Starting point is 00:23:45 more alert. And if that isn't getting you there, leverage the power of affirmations, if you're still feeling really nervous, feeling like you kind of want to cancel last minute, affirmations really help reduce your self-limiting beliefs, your fears that maybe the date will suck, maybe they won't like you, maybe it will be a dud. And these affirmations shift that and put you into a mindset of confidence and openness. So these are some of my favorites, personally.
Starting point is 00:24:15 approved. I have used them many times. I used to repeat these like in the five minutes before I walked in the door. Tell yourself, I'm magnetic. I attract wonderful people into my life. I know who I am. I'm charismatic. I'm attractive. People are attracted to me. I know some people view the power of affirmations as a pseudoscience. Obviously, just saying these things doesn't quote uncle. quote, wish them into existence. But there is a lot of evidence that shows that the words we speak to ourselves influence the things we believe about ourselves, which in turn impacts our behaviour.
Starting point is 00:24:59 And it's those behaviours that create better first states. It's that assertiveness, that self-assurance, that it's going to make sure whatever happens that this person is going to walk away thinking that you definitely know your worth. and you're going to walk away being like, I had fun and I'm not too worried about that person's opinion. And if you're feeling nervous, I get the predate nerves. Just tell yourself you're excited by the feeling. You're excited by this feeling. You're not fearful. You are not anxious. Anxiety and excitement, they feel the same. So just tell yourself that it is that excitement that you're
Starting point is 00:25:37 feeling, not that nervousness. Finally, and this might be a little bit weird, but having a first date scent is such a hack, a scent that you only use on first dates. I know this sounds wild, but smell has a very unique influence on our brain, particularly our olfactory cortex and the olfactory bulb, which is at the front of the brain. And smell can be used to cue behaviors and cue a mindset. It is associated with memories that you can tune into and a sense of like, almost like a purpose. Like if you associate a smell with good things, if you associate a smell with feeling confident, that's going to mean that when you smell that scent, that is going to be activated. This scent is kind of also going to activate your first date patterns. It's going to
Starting point is 00:26:30 make you feel more calm. It's going to put you in the mind frame of like, I'm going to go on this date. It's going to be fun. This is my first date scent. I'm locked in. I'm excited. And that smell also has a unique influence on your date as well, particularly through its influence on pheromones. So our perception of kind of like a potential partner's body odor, whether it is sweet or rich or musky, whatever, it will subconsciously influence attraction. So when we smell something pleasant, our body responds by producing hormones and chemicals in our body that tell us to rest and relax, but also neurotransmitters like oxytotransmitters like oxytocin that act on the pleasure centers of our brain. So when you're attracted to someone,
Starting point is 00:27:16 you're more likely to be drawn to their smell. So sometimes just knowing that you smell good, gives you a boost. Knowing that smells associated with attraction makes you be like, all right, I'm already one step ahead. This person is going to like me just because I smell nice. You'll feel more attractive. You'll feel more appealing. And you'll act accordingly. So those are my tips for before, text less, location, comfort, confidence and smell, all of which are going to help you relax those first date jitters. But what we're going to talk about next is during the date. And during the date, there's two things that we want to focus on. Body language and conversation, sometimes even the absence of conversation. I think we often focus too much on worrying whether we'll have enough to talk
Starting point is 00:28:04 about rather than what we are going to get out of this experience, what we are ready to learn about ourselves, but also about the other person. And that energy, that chemistry, that attraction flows not just through conversation, but also through our non-verbal cues. Obviously, conversation is important. You know, what's a date without one? You're kind of just staring at each other for a couple of hours. Intimate, not very fun. My friend Erin, though, always says, the five like easiest topics to talk about on a first date are friends, family, work, hobbies, and the week. That will cover, that will cover you for at least an hour. So you don't have to be afraid that you're not going to have anything to say. And sometimes not having anything to say is a
Starting point is 00:28:51 pretty clear indicator that this person is probably not right for you. So don't be afraid of that silence. I think sometimes when we are nervous, we bombard someone. with questions. We try and fill the silence. We don't really listen to their answers and there's no connection from that. So instead of thinking ahead, instead of trying to plan what you're going to say, accept that silence is actually important. Silence is kind of like a secret weapon because we know it builds suspense. And suspense builds intrigue, it builds anticipation, it builds excitement. And that will keep someone engaged in the date. Honestly, like, not to sound too deliberate, but I used to make a conscious choice to pause between every like three or four questions, not just to give
Starting point is 00:29:47 someone else space to speak, which I think is important. But also when someone is waiting for you to speak next, they're interested. You have their attention. And that attention between both of you makes for a good first date. And now let's start. talk about body cues as well. Like I said, it's not just having a good chat. It's in the body. It's in the nonverbal communication. That speaks volumes. And you can tune into that to draw someone in to create more of that kind of intimacy and closeness and engagement. The first one is eye contact. Prolonged eye contact releases a stimulant in our brain that brings focus. It brings happiness. It's often associated with feelings of attraction. It's also been
Starting point is 00:30:34 thought to release, once again, oxytocin, the love chemical, which is important for long-term bonding. It's because the eyes, our eyes, they're vulnerable. It's where we see emotion. And when we continue to draw someone back to that feature, back to that part of our face, the level of contact feels deeper. Mirroring is also pretty powerful. So I don't know if you've heard about mirroring before, but it's essentially this technique where we copy the other person's body language to indicate attentiveness and interest. Obviously, golden rules still be yourself in those moments, but when we kind of copy someone else's behavior, if they lean forward, we lean forward, if they cross their arms, we cross our arms, that acts on a specific set of nerve cells called mirror neurons. So one common
Starting point is 00:31:29 situation occurs when, you know, someone else laughs. Scientists have found that the brain responds to the sound of laughter to also prepare the muscles in our face and our vocal cords to laugh in response. Other examples of kind of mirroring or mimicking behaviors includes crossing your legs after someone you're sitting next to does that. Or, you know, when we yawn after seeing someone else yawn, even if we have no intention of doing it, even if we had no sense that we needed to yawn before, it's this really kind of powerful automatic tool that sometimes happens without us being aware of it, that when we are attracted to someone, when we're connected to someone, we're engaged with someone, we are drawn to mimic their behavior to show that we trust them and to show that we are not a threat.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Okay, so during the date, rely on those nonverbal communication skills, lean in, make eye contact, mirror and also kind of unrelated. If it's not going well, I cannot stress this enough, just leave. Leave. Remember, we are adopting a low-stakes attitude, a low-stakes approach. And we don't want any negative associations between a first date and not having fun, or feeling drained or bored. You don't need to be polite or worry about offending their feeling. by doing what's best for you, I think that level of self-assurance, like, no, this isn't going
Starting point is 00:33:05 well, I'm not here for this, I'm not having fun. It really sets you up to be more discerning in the future. It lets you reinforce your own self-worth, reinforce your own confidence, your own decision-making, and it stops you from wasting your time. I think normally we try and avoid that because we want other people to like us, or we want to not come off as rude. but you are there for an experience the same way that they are. And if the experience is not one that you are enjoying, you can just leave. I think that's a really important reminder. So finally, normally when the date is done, we think, okay, well, the date's done.
Starting point is 00:33:44 You know, either I'm going to get a text back or we kind of move on to the next. But I actually think the secret to having better first dates in your 20s comes from what you do after as much as what you do before and during the date. So we are going to explore all of that and more after this short break. 2%. That is the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available. I'm Michael Easter and on my podcast 2%. I break down the science of mental toughness, fitness and building resilience in our strange modern world. I'll be speaking with writers, researchers, and other health and fitness experts, and more, to look past the impractical and way too complex pseudoscience that dominates the wellness industry.
Starting point is 00:34:42 We really believe that seed oils were inherently inflammatory. We got it wrong. Many of the problems that we are freaked out about in the world are the result of stress. Put yourself through some hardships, and you will come out on the other side a happier, more fulfilled, healthier person. Listen to 2%. That's TWO% on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick you here, unpack what went down,
Starting point is 00:35:31 and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 was big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack, so I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now, so.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Then you're finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games. And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking, Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, We get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing. And we're still chasing it. And we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on Earth. Are you a good person because you're afraid?
Starting point is 00:36:52 Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person. Join me, Keir Gaines, is we have. have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, Learn the Hardway. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. In 2023, former bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal.
Starting point is 00:37:21 The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice in Owens, correct? I doctored the test ones. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. Sunlight's the greatest disinfected. They would uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Gregal Westby and Michael Marantini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at Americopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until justice is served in Arizona. Listen to Love Trapped Podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If there is one thing, I believe more than anything else, when it comes to dating, it's that first impressions are not always correct. Some people may say, you know, when you know you know, know, but I think there are a lot of other factors there. And if you're treating dating like a fulfilling experience, like something fun, sometimes you actually need to do a bit of review on how you're feeling about the person afterwards and why that is. When you were around them,
Starting point is 00:38:48 did you feel comfortable? Did you actually enjoy yourself? And most importantly, was it actually a good date? Are they actually fun? Do you want to be around them? Or are you just fun? Are you just interesting. Are you just a really fun person to date? And so it makes them seem more interesting. I found that all the time when I was single, because I had such a good attitude to this, that this is exciting. I'm keen to see what's out there and actually have a good time. I really curated and created situations and dates that were going to make the other person seem fun no matter what. And sometimes that created a first impression and they actually just weren't. that way in the future. Like when I got to know them more, it wasn't correct. So really ask yourself,
Starting point is 00:39:37 did they ask you questions about yourself? Was that fake laughter or real laughter? How many times did you check your phone or did you check the time? Those can tell you a lot more about a date than your gut feeling. And I think if you're not sure, honestly, sometimes I would actually just say go on the second date if they're up for it because chances are that. that your first impression was based on a lot of factors that you can't really control. It's based on nerves. It's based on how you're feeling about yourself. And it can't always be trusted. I have a story for you about this. After my first date with my boyfriend, I was like honestly convinced that I wasn't going to see him again because he gave me like no romantic signals.
Starting point is 00:40:24 I know we had a good first date, but I was like, why do I feel almost bored? Like I have no anxiety. And I realized that was because he was one of the first people I'd gone on a date with where I had no expectations in advance. I had no anxiety. And I think that's, that anxiety is often what we confuse as chemistry. And even though I was unsure of our first impression, it was the sense of like, I had fun and I was at peace. And yet I feel like this isn't exciting enough, but that's because like all those other previous situations, all those other first dates like gone on, I was like constantly trying to create situations in which we were having like the best time ever, rather than just letting myself relax. And I went on a second day. I'm so glad that I did. Second dates
Starting point is 00:41:13 are always, I think, so much better and more meaningful and also are going to give you more information about that person because it's like a lot of us have like that first date veneer, like that first date kind of facade. And we have our like practiced first date stories. We're trying to put on a really good image for someone. The second date, that kind of comes down a little bit. Instant chemistry is also, I think, not the most important thing here. I think we've been sold this really weird narrative around love that meant, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:48 that when you meet the one or whatever it is, it's meant to be instantaneous and there will be sparks and butterflies and passion straight off the bat. Not always true. Intimacy and connection and chemistry are things that build over time. So don't always trust your first date self to make those decisions. I think post-date also don't be afraid to text them first. Honestly, fuck the rules. Fuck the games.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Do what feels best without trying to second-guess your intentions or, you know, you don't want to come off too strong. I just think that's ridiculous. You know, you're in this for you. So call the shots. And I think if you really like them, being like, let's do that again. And getting no response, that is a response in itself or getting a positive response is a green flag.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Like, at least you cut the games. At least you get it out of the way. You don't have to like constantly be judging what this other person thinks. Like, I'm going to say it again. You are in this for you, so you should call the shots. So this episode has all been about having really good first dates, maybe the best first dates of your life, maybe never needing to go on a first date again because you use these tips and you found them on. But bad dates are also unfortunately unavoidable. You've got to kiss a few frogs as they say. Some people are just not compatible because of their values, their intentions, their personality.
Starting point is 00:43:14 And we can sometimes find that, you know, really exhausting. Really, really exhausting if you've just gone on so many. any dates with people and it just didn't work out and you're at the end of your tether. But I'd say don't let the bad dates scare you away from beautiful experiences and moments in the future. We often feel the need after a bad first date to do one of two things. A, we immediately feel like we need to run out and go on another date right away. Like we want to cleanse the palette and like forget the bad memory, eat something like tasty after something foul. I think that when we do that we don't remember what our intentions are. We are more wanting to distract ourselves
Starting point is 00:43:55 from what was probably maybe a bad experience. B, I think the second thing we do is engage in the fallacy that this one bad date is somehow predictive that our next date will also be bad. That is not the case. That person's behaviors and personality, whatever it was that was unattractive, they have no correlation to what the next person will be like. So don't love. let that experience control your behavior or your dating life beyond what happened in that one evening or on that one date. Something I always say is it's just a good story. It's kind of like do it for the plot. But when we reframe bad, uncomfortable experiences into something that we can see is slightly positive, you know that we're going to get a good personal anecdote from this
Starting point is 00:44:44 or that at least our friends will find it funny. We are implicitly using what psychologists call cognitive behavioral training or therapy. We are altering our thoughts or our attitudes towards an event or a situation to be more positive so that we don't let our perception interrupt our future behavior. We don't let it create future avoidance. Another thing that is really common is ghosting. And you know, if they ghost you after your first date, that says more about their emotional unavailability than anything about your value. Remember who. who the hell you are in those moments. You are an absolute catch.
Starting point is 00:45:25 You are magnetic. You love deeply. You are talented and kind and intelligent. It would have been a privilege for that person to be with you. And I feel sorry for them that they lost out. That's so disappointing for them. Bad luck to them. And so they can go on searching and what they've given you as a gift.
Starting point is 00:45:45 They've given you the gift of letting you go, of letting you find someone better. Okay, so this was information overload. You can tell I was excited for this topic. I love living vicariously through you guys. I love living vicariously through my friends. I want you all to have amazing first dates and I want you to tell me about them. But firstly, let's run through those tips again. First of all, limit the texting.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Choose the location and make the move. Prioritize confidence and comfort. Remember who you are. and reaffirm that for yourself. Choose your scent, your smell to get you into the mindset. Treat your anxiety like excitement. Remember that it's not all about conversation. It's also about silence.
Starting point is 00:46:33 It's also about suspense. Make sure you use your body language, make eye contact, mirror their behavior. And debrief with yourself. How could I make this better? How could I enjoy myself more? Is this the kind of person I want? or not. And also don't let the bad dates hold you back. Sometimes in our 20s, it is a little bit of a numbers game. It is a little bit of trial and error. You'll find someone eventually if that's what
Starting point is 00:47:01 you're looking for. And you'll have fun in the process. Like I said, a million times in this episode, dating is meant to be fun. It's not meant to be a chore. It's not meant to be something you have to force yourself to do you should be excited by the opportunity to meet all these new people and create stories for yourself so i really hope that this episode has been helpful for all of my beautiful listeners out there putting themselves out there dating up a storm i freaking love it that is what your 20s are all about having fun meeting people testing things out as you go so i want to know if you use any of these tips i want to hear about your first dates i want to debrief guys i love being in a relationship, but some part of me, I miss the excitement of like being single.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Like I don't miss the anxiety. I think it's like the grass is always greener, right? Like you're always like looking, you know, after the experience is done, you always remember the things that at the time you didn't realize were positive. So please let me know how your dates are going, whether you use these tips if they were successful. And as always, I really hope that you enjoyed this episode. If there is someone in your life who needs to hear this, please feel free to share it with them and tag us on Instagram if you're sharing it there as well. You can follow us at that psychology podcast. If you have a future suggestion for an episode, if you have some feedback, if you just want to get in touch, if you want to have a chat,
Starting point is 00:48:30 all is welcome over there. And of course, we will be back on Friday for another episode. So we will see you then. 2%. That's the number of people who take the stairs. when there is also an escalator available. I'm Michael Easter. I'm on my podcast, 2%. I break down the signs of mental toughness, fitness, and building resilience in our strange modern world.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Put yourself through some hardships, and you will come out on the other side, a happier, more fulfilled, healthier person. Listen to 2%. That's TWA% on the I-HeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On The Look Back at a Podcast, From 1979, that was a big moment for me.
Starting point is 00:49:20 84 was big to me. I'm Sam Jay. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year.
Starting point is 00:49:35 I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's good, y'all? You're listening to Learn the Hardway with your favorite therapist and host Kear Games. This space is about black men's experiences,
Starting point is 00:49:55 having honest conversations that it's really not safe to have anywhere, but you're having them with a licensed professional who knows what he's doing. How many men carry a suit or armor? It signals to the world that you not to be played with. And just because you have the capability that does not mean that you need to.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Listen to learn the hard way on the AHA radio app, Apple Podcast, or web, you get your podcast. In 2023, Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd was accused of fathering twins. But the pregnancy appeared to be a hoax. You doctored this particular test twice in selling, correct? I doctored the test ones.
Starting point is 00:50:30 It took an army of internet detectives to uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg, a lesbian. Michael Mancini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is love trapped. Laura, Scottsdale Police.
Starting point is 00:50:45 As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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