The Questlove Show - A$AP Rocky

Episode Date: January 21, 2026

In a word, this episode is significant—and you'll hear why. A$AP Rocky joins Questlove for a wide-ranging conversation about his upbringing and his ongoing effort to protect moments of normalcy ...amid fame and fortune. He breaks down the creative vision behind DON’T BE DUMB, including the autobiographical personas he developed with filmmaker Tim Burton. Rocky also reflects on the influence of classic Hip-Hop, why film serves as his vision board, and how Mos Def officially certified the name Lord Pretty Flacko Jodye 2. Toast along, as Rocky and Ahmir connect over life, music, and the art of staying true.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-heart podcast. Guaranteed human. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits,
Starting point is 00:00:13 my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, the Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.
Starting point is 00:00:28 So let's get to it. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar.
Starting point is 00:01:00 This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, for wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. In 2023, Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd
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Starting point is 00:02:25 The Questlove show is a production of IHeart, Heart. radio. Actually, I did have like, you know, the typical multi-hyphenate achievement scroll for you, but we were kind of mid-small talk conversation. Go ahead. Finish what you were saying. And then I will introduce you as if you need introduction. But go ahead. First off, it's an honor to be here. Good sir. Mr. Love, you know. Mr. Rock. How are you? Oh, man, never better, man. Like I was saying, I'm going to let you do your ill-ass introduction, but we were just talking about trying to keep the the energy, the feng shui in one room. So I was just, you know, explaining you how I can't even sleep without a nightlight
Starting point is 00:03:18 and all the doors closed. Where does that come from? From a fortune cookie, it said, the ones you love, even the ones that's not here with you are always looking over you. Oh, I believe it. I'm like, even when I'm in the bathroom, like. Oh, dude, I'm, okay, so I had a medium situation like, I was gifted a medium for my 50th birthday.
Starting point is 00:03:41 birthday. Uh-huh. And a shout-out to Laura Lynn Jackson. Which is like a type of, like, psychic ability. Well, yeah. I mean, initially I thought it was something closer to, like, what Will Be Goldberg was on. And ghosts. And ghosts.
Starting point is 00:03:55 But, yeah, Laura Lynn Jackson is, I knew nothing of that world. And she has, like, the most popular Netflix show or whatever. And I was gifted her for my birthday. And the stuff she was communicating to me as far as the ancestors that are walking with us right now. Yes, they're amongst us. That's exactly why that center scene is so epic. Yes, right? Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:04:19 So make that introduction, baby. All right, here we go. Our guest has redefined the landscape of music and fashion. Most notably, the perception of New York City in terms of culture, hip-hop, of course. But just beyond that, I can attest that his critically acclaimed albums, notably, long live asap and i will say that at long last asap it's good to finally have this conversation with you because for tarreek black thought at long last asap was always his backstage ritual what oh dude get the fuck out i think even by osmosis like i knew everything by heart like what's
Starting point is 00:05:02 literally i mean you played drums on a few of those when we did right jimmy phallin back in the day but yeah yeah no no no no massive massive massive fan, massive fan. But I'll basically say that our guest today has really been the paradigm shift of the culture of hip-hop. I'll say that you'll probably believe the last Mohican of the mixtape rappers now that we're totally in the streaming era. Of course, you co-chaired the Met Gala. My second one, I was on it, the super fine tail in black style, not to mention pushing boundaries and you're acting, starting in Spike and Denzel's highest. to Lois. I love Roseburn to death. So I believe that she's going to have an Oscar in her collection for if I had legs, I kick you. She deserves it. You're currently serving creative director right now for power-ass brands like Ray Ban and Puma. And now you're right on the cusp of your next journey and music. Curious title, don't be dumb. I like this. And I don't know. I'm just so excited to have you here.
Starting point is 00:06:10 ASEF Rock you coming to the Questlove show. Thank you, man. Thank you for having me, brother. How are you? All right, so I want to know what's the first thing you did in the first half hour of your day to day?
Starting point is 00:06:22 I usually wake up, brush my teeth, check my phone, chill with my kids. That's how I start my day. You know, not in any particular order, but it varies. Like, one day,
Starting point is 00:06:36 depending if it's like, if I go to sleep, busy, wake up busy, sort of like this week. And next week, I wake up and I just answer whatever emails and text messages I forgot to the previous night. And, you know, I just go see my, you know, get my, to compensate, converse with my lady and go see my kids in their rooms. And, you know. Now that you're about to release this record is the cycle different now?
Starting point is 00:07:02 Like, are you in promotion mode right now? Yeah, I'm in promotion mode, man. And it's like now I just, I wake up and get straight to it. I try to go for like a jog, hit the gym, get my mom right, you know, hit the sauna, sweat out. Were you born in Harlem? Now, I'm just finding out that you were also Pennsylvania residents. When did this happen? So I was born and raised in Harlem in Bronx, the Bronx, New York.
Starting point is 00:07:27 And when I was around eight, nine years old, I moved to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Well, actually, Hershey, Rutherford, Pennsylvania, and then in Dauphin County. Then I was living in Harris back and forth from New York to Harrisburg, North Carolina, places like that. But I might have lived in PA for about, like, I would say, a significant amount of town, maybe like six years, you know, five or six years. When I was a kid, going to Hershey Park was always like a treat, you know, like if you get a good report card or something, we'll take you to Hershey. I'm, you know, I'm a Philadelphia. And so, always there. So were you a Hershey Park regular or?
Starting point is 00:08:03 Regular. That chocolate factory smelling all the cold. It's a whole city. You know what I'm saying? It's just a crazy experience when you, you know, they measure the kids off of like different candies, right? So it's like if you really short, you like a Twizzler and if you're taller than that, you're Reese's. If you're taller than that, you're Hershey's, Hershey's chocolate. Like I think the smallest is a kiss.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Okay. Hershey kisses. Man, you bring back memories and you're making me hungry right now. I'm saying. What are your fond memories of Harlem? Or did you have fond memories of Harlem? Lots of fond memories, man. I mean, to this day, I was just in Harlem yesterday out of school.
Starting point is 00:08:47 And, you know, just chilling with the kids for some fourth graders, teaching them how to rap. I love Harlem, man. Right after that, I wanted to go see my grandmother three blocks away from there. Chill with her for the rest of the night. You know, Harlem is just in my DNA. What I picked up from Harlem It made me a renaissance man
Starting point is 00:09:07 You know what I'm saying Yeah Harlem is the shit man It's just so much culture to Adopt from and adapt to You know You know for all the Burroughs I meant You know I'm pushing my 20th year
Starting point is 00:09:22 Of kind of denying that I'm a New Yorker I think one has to live here for 20 years At least 10 Okay well you were born here So you're a native New Yorker Yeah All right I've you know I'm pushing year 18.
Starting point is 00:09:35 So, you know, Philadelphia is a very jealous city. So I have to at least do 20 years before I do it. All right. So this is how you measure a different, like, you know, being able to, like, claim a different region, right? Okay. You take your age. Okay. And you say, with my age, you know, was I living, you know, in this location for predominantly more than, you know, this location?
Starting point is 00:10:01 And so say if you're like... 30 years old, right? And if you've been living in Philly for 15 years in New York for 15 years, I mean, right there it's a little toss-up, but say if you live in New York for 16 years, Philly for 15, I think you can claim New York. All right, give me, give me, give me four years, your dog.
Starting point is 00:10:23 You already know Philly's known for booing. I can't, I can't do it just yet. I don't want to get you in no trouble, man. So I used to scratch my head often, and you'll hear this about like sports, cats like basketball dudes and even like some rappers I know where you know especially in the 80s and 90s like they would go back to their old projects or they would go back to their old neighborhood and whatever and I'd be like why would you ever want to return there but then one day I started
Starting point is 00:10:48 doing that where I'll just get in a car I will drive down to Philly and just look at ghosts or like old neighborhoods or whatever now that Harlem is what I think it is which I mean you know it's very Gentrified. Totally. Yeah, I was going to say like super gentrified. Not my blocks, though. Can you still go home or is it just not the same anymore? Oh, man, nothing is the same.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Everything changes, right? But I'll say this. I think the older I get significantly, I have this kind of innate passion to, you know, kind of go back to where it all started. So at the end of the day, let me give you a prime example. Like if you were like, how old were you when you first got your first record deal and you guys like blew up? That was 22. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:39 So if you were 22 when you left the block, talking about chilling with God, like depending on the type of person you are. But like typically chilling on a block, friends, cousins, whatever it is, doing, you know, block activity, right? Chilling smoking, drinking, joking, rolling dice, hollineck, you know, girls or whatever the case is, right? When you actually find, you know, success in what you like doing and it keeps you preoccupied, subsequently, it is a period of your time, a moment where you kind of outgrow those activities, rightfully so, right? But I haven't been a teenager for almost going on 20 years now. You know what I'm saying? I'll be 40 in three years.
Starting point is 00:12:25 You believe that shit, you know, so. That's a good thing. Yeah, for sure. of us never make it past that line. For sure, I know I look 26, but, you know, I'm honest with you. I thought you still 18, bro. You know, I'll take it as a compliment. But, you know, at the end of the day, I'll just, let me give you an example.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Like, my grandmother refuses to move out of Harlem. She's a true, from Barbados. First place she moved to was Harlem back and forth from the Bronx to Harlem. She refuses to move out of her building. Everybody's like a community, and it's still like a community. You know, neighbors, neighborhood. So you want to upgrade her, but she still insists. She insists.
Starting point is 00:13:06 You know, I love how humble she is. I just paid the rent for everybody in her building this month. Shout out. Shoutouts to built. And, you know, they were all so graceful and thankful and just appreciative. But the point I'm making is I'm in position to go back there now to do something that is actually, you know, fundamentally positive and in a sense opposed to me
Starting point is 00:13:34 just going back and doing the same old shit, right? So I went to drop her off last summer. She was at my hotel and I went to drop off me and a couple family members and you know, not to brag. You know, I don't go, when I go to Harlem, I take the train or I take like an anonymous.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Yeah, I don't flex either. Yeah, you know what I mean? Because I don't want to hurt nobody. Like, why would I do that? I'm glad you said that. I still have my first car. And it's raggedy. I have a sign. Man, you like Warren Buffett. Dog. Like, okay, so I'm glad you do that.
Starting point is 00:14:06 I get the significance of it, and that's the word of the day, significance. I'm going to use that a lot. Okay. But, you know, I think every time I do that, we got to take a sip of tea or something. Significance. That's our code word. Got some coconut water there, something? Coconut water, yes.
Starting point is 00:14:19 I can tell, man. Look, cloudy. It's good for you. So when I come through, I don't want to flex. Make announcement. Yeah, I don't want to do it. I got to keep it pushing, bro. Is it easy for you to blend?
Starting point is 00:14:30 And then. Hell no, look at me. Well, I meant, but that's the thing. Would you roll in this mood to Harlem? All the time. But I take the train. I put a pushaiste on. I take the train.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Sometimes I'm by myself. Sometimes I'm with security. I take the train to keep myself grounded. Gotcha. It's not even like trying to do, be cool and shit. I take yellow taxis. You know, because like, Uber's, they do weird shit sometimes. They recognize you.
Starting point is 00:14:57 They'll call you back there, do stalky shit, try to give you your car be extra, you know what I mean, take a record in front of the, I mean, I take a yellow taxi, I'll walk there, I ride a city bike, you know what I mean, like, I'm from here. I should be able to just go back there and relax,
Starting point is 00:15:14 you know what I mean? And when I go back, I'm not trying to make brothers feel like my successes, they demise. So as a New Yorker, do you have spots that are like, where it feels like home, where it feels like? Absolutely. I go see my brother Ty Wilde
Starting point is 00:15:32 on the east side shout out A.S.combe, jonson projects. I go to A.K. You know, I ain't been to A.K. in a minute, though, but I go to 140th and Lennox my grandma would block all the time.
Starting point is 00:15:44 But if I'm just hanging out, hanging out, I go to Melwoods. If I ain't in Melviz in Harlem, I'm downtown at Smalls. If not, I'm at Django, you know, at the Roxy, watching a nice movie or, you know, the movie theater of the Roxy?
Starting point is 00:15:58 That shit is fly. You know, I rent that shit. Sometimes I rent. Oh, I was going to say, I ran it out too. Yeah, I'm into a void or something. Let's, you know, call some friends and we just, you know, chill out over there. Like, that's the kind of shit I'm into. I'm into, dive bars.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I'm in the lounges. I'm in the pubs. I'm not into the clubs. The club coach is dead. Why the hell you want to be around a bunch of motherfuckers having a staring contest? What I'm flexing on you for about to pay 10x how much a fucking beverage and licks a cost in fucking liquor store? go over there and they want to charge you a million dollars for a bottle with Casamigos of
Starting point is 00:16:35 1942. Get the fuck out of here. I could do this in my living room. Call some friends over, have a gathering, no weirdos around, play some cards, some crazy aides. Call it a day. Y'all can smoke in peace. Y'all could smoke in peace. We could crack jokes on each other in peace. It ain't, you know, but that's just where I'm at. To everybody having fun out there, getting paid, getting laid, do your thing. I ain't judging flaco. Love you. Because at the end of the day, sometimes it's like occasional, but I feel like when you living in the club and you're not a promoter, you're not a dancer or a bartender or whatever the case is, it's like, you know, that's kind of, you know, it's just immorally backwards for a nigga like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:17:16 Like, that's all. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way,
Starting point is 00:17:37 this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes
Starting point is 00:17:54 of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space. For honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream,
Starting point is 00:18:12 this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes.
Starting point is 00:18:38 And Rule 2, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care.
Starting point is 00:19:01 So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Everyone, I'm Ego Wodom. My next guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and the Big Money Players Network. It's Will Ferrell. Woo, woo, woo, woo. My dad gave me the best advice. ever. I went and had lunch with them one day and I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give
Starting point is 00:19:46 this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest, the director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Galko joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects.
Starting point is 00:20:47 From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slical Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. The obvious white elephant in the room, you were christened with a moniker with a name of God,
Starting point is 00:21:26 Rakim. I just recently learned that your sister's name is Erica B. When I first heard the origin of your name, I was like, shit. Did you automatically feel destined or Kristen that this was going to be, like, when did you first learn who Rakim Allah was? When I was like three or four? So you just asked, like, why did you name me Raqin? Were people telling you? Yeah, my pops and I was, so I used to be obsessed with Michael Jackson's Moonwalker.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Like, ever since I was like maybe like six months. Same. My mom will put me in a rocker and I'll just fall asleep to it. And put it on. Yeah, I was watching it until I turned two. Right. And I remember I had memories from being two and three years old to this day, right? I remember when my aunt had a fight on 116th from Morniside and when she got sliced, all type of shit, right?
Starting point is 00:22:16 I was maybe three or four years old and I was three. And Raqim, I think juice was out, right? So what year did the juice come out, guys? 92. 92. So I, look, 88, 89, 91, like three, four years old. At least you know I ain't lying. The ledge was on the TV.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Right. And Raqam had the bucket hat, can go join on. He was with Eric B and my father's like, that's Raq. That's who you named after you named after him. I just was like, damn, that motherfucker got swag. Yo, like, I thought that as a young guy. Like, I was just, damn, this, my language, I was just a little comfortable right now.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Well, you should be. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate the hospitality. I'm big on time travel, astral traveling, like that sort of thing. If you could live in any time period, where would you go? I would go to Mali Empire around 1100s. Damn. Okay. Explain.
Starting point is 00:23:19 I mean, Massimusa, right? Like, at the end of the day, this is around the time that Africa, you know, they try to make it legend, but this is around the time where Africa was getting a lot of, like, European countries out of debt and stuff like that, right? And this predates, like, a lot of, like, you know, the Westernized and, you know, the... Colonization. You know, slavery. Yeah. You know, the colonialismization and shit, right? And that was when it was just like moors around.
Starting point is 00:23:48 They were actually like the king of like Spain was a black man and all of this other stuff. And, you know, I would have loved to see how like life was before history was rewritten for all of us, before we were all brainwashed and stuff like that. And yeah, you know, I wonder what they hired in the Vatican. Like, for me, it's just like some things you can't like erase, you know. Some things are just like, it never. inevitably there and obvious and just blatantly in your face. And I would have loved to like see like maybe even earlier than that I would love to see how they fucking built paramedes, man, because I'm still curious.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Same. Yeah. How about you? My level of time traveling has more or less to do with the acts I want to see. Probably the one period that really isn't truly documented well that's legendary is kind of. kind of the Harlem Renaissance of jazz. Yes. You get on my nerves.
Starting point is 00:24:48 I wanted to say that. Sorry. See, I got old philosophical. You got all cool, you know, cat daddy on me. I see what you did there. You know, some of the best music ever created really, really wasn't documented all that much. It wasn't.
Starting point is 00:25:06 And Langston Hughes is the first rapper. Of course he was. Yes, absolutely. So, I mean, yeah, I would say that that's, I'm curious about that time period as far as like the creatives. Really, I just want to see how Charlie Parker and probably John Coltrane operated. So that's why I would want to go probably to the 40s. The 30s or 40s?
Starting point is 00:25:32 Well, I would say the 40s is when Bob really started to, you know, get its wings. Yeah. So what would you say is professionally speaking, Lisa, what is the single moment that changed your life? The single moment that changed my life is when I was introduced to A-Sav-E-A-S. Tell me about it. Child DeM's, man. Man, rest and peace to the homie, man.
Starting point is 00:26:00 You know, A-Sav-E-M's was, like, responsible for all the pivotal moments in my career. I got a few moments that kind of changed my life, man. You know, when I was five, a stranger. you know in a very racist town white men saved me from drowning yeah man i didn't even know his name i was in a very racist town where what i was in north carolina what city i don't remember it was like right outside of charlotte it was the sticks okay you know he saved me my me and my family was supposed to walk out together to the pool being from new york i never been in the pool so i was eager So I thought they was behind me
Starting point is 00:26:42 And I did some home alone McCauley Coggin shit And I just walked out And they just let the door close And I went there And I was practicing in my bathtub So I thought I could fucking swim You get what I'm saying? Come on, bro
Starting point is 00:26:54 Wow, okay It was significantly accurate as a kid You gotta take a toast to that Because I said significant All right But um This is delicious You know
Starting point is 00:27:06 I left out And I'm sitting there Got my you know legs in the water, teed a tie, teatot, and it's this guy with his family, right? He had like two daughters, they were like significantly older than me. And basically, he was like, hey, hey, buddy,
Starting point is 00:27:26 you're not a swim sport? I was like, yeah, I know how to swim. He's like, yeah, for sure. So his son jumped in. The son's like a year or two older than me. Jumped in. It was like eight feet. It went all like pop back up.
Starting point is 00:27:40 So I decided to try it when I went in. It wasn't until maybe like five seconds panic. Just, you know. What did it feel like? I felt like I was drowning. Okay. But it was just like panic setting and I was just like, you know what I'm saying? I'm screaming under the water.
Starting point is 00:27:59 So I, you know, lost a lot of breath. Okay. And I'm talking about like obviously in the tub you don't open your eyes. Right. My eyes are open underwater. You know black folks don't open. eyes and no chlorine. Like, my eyes are open and I just see blue and I'm just like, I'm screaming. And I swear to God, this motherfucker popped out like door. I don't know how
Starting point is 00:28:22 he wasn't swimming. He came like this, gave me his arm. His arm was hairy as fuck. I grabbed it. That motherfucker was, like we was at SeaWorld or some shit like that. Like, just brought me up a butter water, put me on the sideline, left me there. I'm on the side. Crying. So the point where I go back home, my mother damn, they wanted to whip me again. My father was like, man, he already been through nothing. Little motherfucker almost dry and let him. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Even when your life is on the line, like, there still might be a whipping wait for you. Is that like, I'm glad you're alive? Now go in your room and wait until I get there. She was about to whip me right then and there wet, soaking wet. So it was going to be a bad one. Has this discouraged you from swimming or? Absolutely. You have not done it since?
Starting point is 00:29:19 I learned how to swim at 30. So you waited that long to jump back in the water? Hell, yes. Damn. I was traumatized, man. How are you with it now? Oh, I'm a great swimmer. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:33 And six feet. You know what I'm saying? Don't get me nothing more deep. It's quiet. So you'll take it just a little bit. As long as I can touch a toe pop back up I'll be all right No, I'm a good swimmer
Starting point is 00:29:45 I just learned like You know Density and stuff And going in the sea You don't really have to know How to swim and float You just use your body And salt water and shit like that
Starting point is 00:29:56 It's really cool When you think about the physics of it But you know I'm a decent swimmer though All jokes aside All right so I have Questions of course About your latest project
Starting point is 00:30:07 And yeah I'm kind of raging with a little bit of jealousy because you were able to pull off a trick that I've not been able to pull off. What's that? Talk to me. How the hell did you manage to get Winona Ryder out the house? Yo. I've been phone friends with this person for years. She'll never come out the house.
Starting point is 00:30:29 How did you get her out the house? God. God. God, man. God. Everything is aligning right now. Like, everybody from Tim Burton's ethos from Tim Burton himself, Danny Elfman, Winona Ryder, a couple more people that I can't say as yet because it's still a surprise.
Starting point is 00:30:50 But like... Okay. Oh, damn. Yeah, like Tim Burton played a really big part in this whole project. And she was so down. She was so cool. She's a hip-hop hit. Yo, she's cool as shit.
Starting point is 00:31:03 She had her own fucking merch. She had old fucking beavis and butthead and pink floyds shit. Like, she was so cool, man, and I can't wait. Like, hopefully with the grace of God I could share the silver screen with her one day, and I would be honored to do it. Like, yo, she is cool as fuck. She gets so much cool points in my book, man. You worked with another hero of mine, which is Danny Elfman.
Starting point is 00:31:28 And, you know, Tim Burton, of course, is also the hero. First of all, why did it take you so long to, I know that you were talking about, like, sample clearances and all that stuff. a few years ago, whatever. Why did it take so long for this album to come to fruition? Dummies keep leaking my shit. You record it and then next thing you know it's out. Just like that.
Starting point is 00:31:50 So now you realize that you're at the level where you have to protect your shit. Man, I realize I'm at the level where I got to change my number every three months, you know? And I make everybody around me change their numbers and emails. For real. Frequently. because once one person is breached it's like a virus you want to spread that shit it's contagious
Starting point is 00:32:12 what they do is they trick you they'll put like ASAT rocky at org.com and if you're not really clicking it and they'll know they'll have intel they'll be like you know they'll talk about a record and I don't know how they know and you're not smart you'll click on that
Starting point is 00:32:28 and you breach yeah okay just like that so you're saying that what we're getting well when this comes out, the album would have been out already. So for you, though, you felt that because it got leaked to the public or whatever, that it was still tainted even
Starting point is 00:32:44 as a work of art, like, he has to divorce yourself from it? To be honest with you, and, like, you know, I'm not indecisive as much as people would assume. I just evolve. So, like, what you made yesterday, you might be over it by next
Starting point is 00:33:00 week or next month or next year. So sometimes when you sit on stuff too long, it get leaked and all this shit happens, you be over, you on to the next one. And sometimes, like, your sound, it evolves and changes with you. So your taste preference changes. And you might be over this kind of sound, and you go on to this kind of sound, experiment with that.
Starting point is 00:33:20 And I think with this album, too, you know, it's not only just that it was getting leaked. Like, I was waiting on Tim. He was doing Beatu Juice Part 2 and Wednesday and all type of shit. So it was just a role about the right moment for me, you know? What's your favorite work of Tim Burton's? Like, why did you choose him to collaborate with on this record? I chose him because I'm heavily inspired by German expressionism. That's like his go-to aesthetic.
Starting point is 00:33:47 When you look at him, you could tell. The reason why I think German expressionism is amazing is because if you think about it, it's almost equivalent to how you think about sci-fi. What I would say is like German expressionism is equivalent to sci-fi. You don't have any ghetto sci-fi. You don't have any ghetto expressionism. That's what I could provide. And I put my take on it and develop something new,
Starting point is 00:34:16 which is genre bending and which is like forthcoming new of its own. It's new in its own light. You know, you take two components that are pre-existing, mash them together as like infuse them and make a hybrid of something that's brand new. hip hoppers mostly don't really know about German expressionism which allowed me to offer something new to them
Starting point is 00:34:42 to my crowd, to my people and shit. And, you know, I think that he's the king of that shit and the film that I fell in love with, my first film that I fell in love with was a nightmare before Christmas. My dad bought me that and I had that on mute and I had Vincent, his first, college film.
Starting point is 00:35:04 I had it all on mute while I was recording an album and all of the songs would kind of go to that and you know, my boy. That was your visual board inspiration as you recording. Okay. You know, I use motion pictures as a move board. Yeah. Well, congrats, man, because that to me
Starting point is 00:35:22 is what I would call a come up. Thank you, man. And a great come up. What's the thought process or the inspiration that you go through in order to determine this is the sound that I want to go with. This is the visuals I want to go with and the art I want to go with. I've always been this way, man.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I mean, 11 years ago, I made a song named LSD. That same year, I made that song in 2014 and released it in 2015. The same session is when I recorded the song Sundress that everybody's in love with. So, and I didn't release Sundress until, 2018. And so it's always just been in me and I try to make what we consider timeless
Starting point is 00:36:10 music so that you can't really put a time stamp on it or expiration date on it. Because music needs to outlive the artist. That's why you got Jefferson Airplane. You got, you know, Pink Floyd and Jimmy Hendrix
Starting point is 00:36:26 and, you know, great people like Nat King Cole and like you know, even going back to the early Renaissance days of people like Louis Armstrong, et cetera, et cetera. The list goes on. Billy Holiday, all of these people are timeless. Frank Sinatra, they make timeless music. And the music that I wanted to affiliate my brand and my lineage and my, like, whole
Starting point is 00:36:53 catalog, dysography with was genre bending from the start. And if there would be no age. They sat Rocky if it wasn't for experimental music or cloud rap or trill shit or, you know, when we first came out, they never knew what we was from. Are they from Cali? Are they from the Midwest? I didn't know where you were from. You know, are they from Texas. I was like, okay. You know, Memphis, like, where these motherfuckers from?
Starting point is 00:37:23 New York, Harlem in the Bronx. What the fuck? Gold teeth, braids. Now that's a standard. That's regular. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.
Starting point is 00:37:59 This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream,
Starting point is 00:38:27 this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either.
Starting point is 00:38:56 We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific. con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:39:36 What's up, everyone? I'm Ego Wodom. My next guest, you know from Stepbrothers, Anchorman, Saturday Night Live and the Big Money Players Network. It's Will Ferrell. Woo. Woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with him one day. And I was like, and Dad, I think I want to really give this a shot.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through. And I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you. Which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. and he's like, just give it a shot.
Starting point is 00:40:18 He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft, and we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make, to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else.
Starting point is 00:41:10 If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slical Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. This particular project, Don't Be Dumb, is inspired by the personas that you and Timber and created. Can you talk about the origin of shirthead, like the characters that you have for? Okay, so they all inspire about just aesthetics that I created in the past, like, seven. seven years, right?
Starting point is 00:41:52 Since my last album. So the last album I did was called testing and it had crash dummies. That was the whole aesthetic, crashing out, right? This is the answer to that. After the crash dummy was the babushka boy. After the babushka boy was the shirtheads. The shirt heads is significant to the Moors.
Starting point is 00:42:11 We could get into that later. You know, shout out of brother Tariq. I don't know if you guys seen hidden colors, but I get a lot of like my edjimication and my information. you know, from watching what he did reading up on, like, different professors that he would, you know, recommend and talking to brothers like him, you know. So, you know, it's a lot of, like, hidden black history and that goes across the whole globe that we don't really know about. So I try to embed that or include that into my aesthetic without feeling like I'm preaching the motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:42:44 You know, it's just a little like, if you know, you know, kind of situation. And so after that was this Rocky Ruegan. hand, the Pearl King persona where I wear like, you know, multiple jeans and stuff. And that's me getting into ghetto expressionism. And after that is the guy that's sitting in front of you today, which we call Mr. Mayors, you know, the dad, the entrepreneur, the multifaceted, talented, rapper, director, actor, handsome fella, fashionisto, et cetera, et cetera, you know? That's a mic drop movement for me.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I don't got nothing else after that. So those are all the characters that Tim Burton depicted on the cover, all the personas and alter egos of myself. Okay. Who is your creative North Star? Who would you say your top three heroes are just in terms of like the creatives that you... Not even hip-hop, just in life. Like, but okay, I'll say to go with hip-hop.
Starting point is 00:43:41 It's too many people for me to just... That's why you got to pick a category or margin or something more, just like a... Okay, in music. I mean, in music, if you want to talk about dance and stuff, like Bob Fossi, Fred Astaire, Charlie Chapman, well, I mean, he was filmed, but music, genres, psychedelics, Mott Psych, Rock and Roll, fucking, of course, hip-hop, rap,
Starting point is 00:44:09 you know, gangster rap, the Golden Age, you guys, you know, soulful music. I just think it's just, I'm a fucking sponge. I'm inspired by every fucking thing. If I get inspired by something, I know how to use that to my advantage without appropriating or biting or stealing. You know what I'm saying? So you filtered it through your own creativity
Starting point is 00:44:33 so that it comes. Absolutely. I like how you wrote it that very eloquent of you. Hey, man. That's what I'm here for. Thank you. Okay, let's go a year before your first album. Let's go to 2010.
Starting point is 00:44:45 What was in your mind And in Raqam's mind in 2010, what was your definition of making it? Like, I want to get into the game and this is what I think making it is. Everything that happened to me is what I, you know, defined as making it. All the blessings. All the. So even in 2010, you have the foresight to know. For sure.
Starting point is 00:45:14 This is the path that you're going to travel. For sure. 2009 I knew. You got to understand that that's, I think that's a beautiful thing. But I came up in the generation before in which, like, if you listen to Biggie's lyrics and juicy, really making it was just like having a dope video game system. Super Nintendo. A place to swim in your backyard.
Starting point is 00:45:42 I mean, that's making it. And get a good review in a magazine. I mean. Five mics in the sauce. Yeah. I mean, like, for real, like, Jay Z is the first rapper who even uttered words that most rappers lived at home with their mama. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:46:02 Like, EZ is talking about in boys in the hood. You know, got to get drunk. For my mama star bitching. About my friends. Right. And even Snoop, like, six, my mama ain't home. But Jay Z, like, owned property. And to me, that was a big deal in 97.
Starting point is 00:46:16 and like, oh, he's dreaming of property. So we weren't, I mean, statistically, I don't think black people were ever taught to dream. Because we had the hustle. You know what I mean? And Jay-Z was a hustler. Yeah, but then he became a dreamer. You know, and back then I just thought like, well,
Starting point is 00:46:34 they're just lying. They don't have that stuff, but now I call it, we call it manifest now. So, but for you, this is the path that you're on right now is exactly what you, wanted it to be back in 2010 when you first started. I was referring to 2011 and 12 when I was talking about 2010. Got it.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Yeah, like, I was just like, I knew it, you know? And to be honest, I'm not trying to sound like I'm a fake psychic on some Miss Cleo shit, but I knew, like, I can't settle for less. I can't settle for this. If I'm hopping the train right now, that's right now. Because I know, like, it's going to happen. It has to. I used to just be like, these motherfuckers is corny.
Starting point is 00:47:19 I'm like, they need me in life. I knew they needed me. I knew I wasn't normal. You know, not to just come across so cocky. I'm full of myself, but the truth of the matter is, I'm quite accurate. Like, I think it's like it's like- I think it's cocky at all. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Like, if anything, I think we need to be more in the space of owning it. Right? Because, again, we've been taught to be humble. We've been modest, right, yeah. Fuck that. Yeah, for sure. Fuck that. And I just was looking at it.
Starting point is 00:47:45 I'm like, man, this shit needs me. You know, our culture has been exploited in, you know, so many times, right? And to the point where you can't even identify no more or really kind of, you know, connected to any, what we attribute or just contributions that just don't even like, you know, correlate to the culture anymore. What is the culture? What does that even mean, right? So it's just like it's to a place where I just, I just. I just want to just, you know, show people how to just be the best them, be the best artist. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:48:21 Because we come from an era where you have to keep it real. You know what I mean? And mostly all the real niggas I know is dead and jail. True. There's no space. It's not a climate to be real. Which if you real, keep it to yourself, because the moment they sniff that out, they'll come for you.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Yeah, man. It took me like five years reacquimate myself with the the word failure. Like, first I thought failure was like a bad thing. Like, ah, I failed. Now I embrace failure as a lesson. Okay, learn not to do that again. What's the biggest rejection you've ever gotten
Starting point is 00:49:01 and how did you overcome it? It started out with a girl. You know, the first time you get rejected by that one girl, you're like, damn, she kind of could crush your pride, right? Yeah. Like, the fuck, is it me? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:49:13 Then you'd be like, look at me. then look at yourself, sweetheart. Like, you got to tell yourself, like, you're bugging. You're lost, right? So that's how I take any time, like, I do something that I'm positive about, you know, confident about. And if it, quote, unquote, fails, I take it as a lesson learned. Just like what you just said, man, like, I definitely was in a place where if I did something that was considered a failure, it hit me hard because I'm so compassionate about everything that I do or. everything that I'm involved in.
Starting point is 00:49:47 You know, it's not just about putting numbers on the board and just saying, how I did that. I did that for bragging rights. Nah, I love this shit. And, you know, I'm a renaissance, man. So I care about it. You know, I care a lot. So if I fail to somebody else's standards, but to my own individual standards, you know, sometimes failure and success could be subjective, you know, as long as you feel like you succeeded.
Starting point is 00:50:14 But if it's something that you did feel at, if you're going to keep pursuing it, just make sure you bigger and better next time. Stronger and faster and smarter next time. How do you deal with creative blocks? Smoke weed. Okay. If not, like, work with people that are very creative.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Like, you know, I've ran into moments where I had a lot on my plate, and I would have the baby come through, Big Sean come through, and I'll just, Paris, Texas, I had these guys come through and I'd be like, hey, put a flow down. Like, some guys wouldn't even say words. Dribberish.
Starting point is 00:50:53 And that could inspire you and push you to write your own shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, I'm not really too keen than, like, ghostwriters, but the baby is one of the first artists that I ever collaborated with on some bars. And the last artist, too. You get what I'm saying? Like, I guess I come from an era where that's just a, that's just, a no, but when you block yourself from creating by having an ego and shit like that, that's
Starting point is 00:51:22 when you're your own worst enemy. And when I let my guard down and he was listening to me about how to produce, he produced his own first record. He was like, yo, bro, we really feed off of each other's energy. Shout-outs to the baby, man. He's one of the illest emcees and lyricists I know, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, I think writers block, if you put, a powerful component in the room with you, it'll help. It doesn't matter if you're novelist, a journalist, a poet or rapper, a lyricist.
Starting point is 00:51:53 You put a cool motherfucker that you could bounce energy off of like in the same room as you. You're going to come up with something good, man. Trust me, man. Question. What's up? What's the last lie that you told? I mean, I used to be lying like a motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:52:13 man, I mean, in what kind of context we're talking? What's the best lie you've told? The best lie ever told? Let me think. I mean, you say all type of lies to get some pussy back in the day. I mean, but like, now I try not to lie, man. I might fabricate a little nowadays, but I try not to lie because it's like, I don't lie to my mother, my woman.
Starting point is 00:52:38 I ain't about to lie to these motherfuckers. Like, when you tell the truth and own it, nobody could bust your burst your bubble you know what i mean they can't really blow your spot pull your card they can't because you're already owning it you owning that flaw like you know what i'm saying and like if it's a situation where you doing something that you couldn't bear to live with don't do it or if that's really you living your truth that's it you know what i'm saying like if you were a killer you know what i'm saying i wouldn't recommend self-snitching on yourself but Or like if you know you're a killer at heart, you just got to like accept the fact that you might do life in prison.
Starting point is 00:53:19 You know what I'm saying? Except the fact. Like if you're a prostitute, you know what I'm saying? And you sell some pussy and shit like that, whatever. You just admit it to yourself that you're a hooker. Like, that's just it. Like, it's simple as that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:53:34 Shout out all sex workers out there. Sex positive here. A win is a win. A win. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.
Starting point is 00:54:00 And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports. sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford
Starting point is 00:54:36 show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends...
Starting point is 00:55:09 Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed.
Starting point is 00:55:27 I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Ego Wode. My next guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman,
Starting point is 00:55:51 Saturday Night Live and the Big Money Players Network, It's Will Ferrell Woo Woo, woo, woo, woo My dad gave me the best advice Ever I went and had lunch with them one day And I was like
Starting point is 00:56:05 And dad, I think I want to really give this a shot I don't know what that means But I just know the groundlings I'm working my way up through And I know it's a place that come Look for up and coming talent He said if it was based solely on talent I wouldn't worry about you
Starting point is 00:56:17 Which is really sweet Yeah He goes but there's so much luck involved And he's like Just give it a shot He goes but If you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration.
Starting point is 00:56:34 It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks Dad on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This week on the. Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft, and we've got a special guest.
Starting point is 00:56:58 The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar, this is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple, podcast for wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:57:31 All right. So when I first got my advance, the very first thing I did was I went out and purchased 12 pairs of pumas in every color spectrum. I was young and dumb. But yes, I went out and purchased the way you looking at me right now. It's the way my dad looked at me. Like, yo, what the fuck? Where did you buy all these sneakers from?
Starting point is 00:58:04 Talk about your collaboration with Puma. Like, how did that come to be? Why did you... Look, we all know that you're the fashion god. So for you, I know that if you loan your credibility to any brand, that it's official. Why did you choose Puma and talk about that collaboration? I chose Puma because Puma was family. My girl already did like crazy work with them.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Right. Inspirational shit, like, I don't know how many years ago, 12, 13 years ago, you know. My manager, Jay Brown, my brother, Emery Jones, Jay Z, my family at Rock Nation, they all help usher that deal for me. Here we are because it's just like I need to be able to get out my ideas. That's my main first priority. Who's your top five best dressed? best dress what i gotta get specific yeah because it's a lot of best dressed motherfuckers man who do you respect in terms of just okay is one thing when you're doing promotions or whatever
Starting point is 00:59:09 do you dress like this just on a regular every day like if you weren't doing promotion hell yeah all right you got to be my mentor man i thought i thought i was saying shit with gregg loren or whatever but nah i feel like i mean come on that's ralph learned nephew man i yeah but i feel I got to step my game up. But for you, who are the five people that you respect their fashion game? Yassine Bay, Kanye was... Most? He made the list?
Starting point is 00:59:40 Of course. Nice. That man was rickied out. So I got my name pretty flacco from him. He gave it to me. That I did not know. He gave me permission because a Dominican girlfriend gave it to me when I was before I was famous and then when I got famous, he named me.
Starting point is 00:59:55 That's why my name is Lord Pretty Flago Jody the second because he's the first Okay you know that's big bro right there Shout out's the most deaf man It's my big brother but basically him It's more than five though So can I just go down the list? Will someone get offended if they're not on your list? They might but I mean
Starting point is 01:00:15 All right just name him again all right All right so uh yay feral grand poohba most deaf fabulous dipset I'm glad poohba made your list because people don't don't acknowledge that, you know, he's really, I think, the first rapper with swag in terms of... Yeah, I fuck with Cool Keefe. Okay. Who else was a fly? My slick
Starting point is 01:00:35 Rick, his slick Rick was a fly, bro. To me, I mean, Kaine might have more money, but he wasn't fucking with Slick Rick, but Kaine can't a fly, nigga, but who else? Even Jay, man, he had his, like the T-shirt on the head. Yes. Jay Z used to do that,
Starting point is 01:00:51 man, you know what I'm saying? The Yankee fitted, tilted. Is there a fashion trend that you regret following? Yeah. As a Harlem night, did you have to go through your pink period? Yeah, but I'm still on my pink shit. Okay. It's Harlem.
Starting point is 01:01:08 I think a fashion trend, fashion trends that I tend to start is what I regret sometimes. You know what I'm saying? Because you don't get to shine on your own shit? Nah, because some of that shit looks ridiculous 15 years later, you know what I'm saying? Okay. So is there a piece of clothing? that you know you should get rid of, but you can't let go.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Like, how sentimental are you? Nah, man, that shit is out the door. Remember that brand KTZ? Yes. That shit was garbage. But you loved it. I used to wear that shit, man. Have you ever gotten roasted for any of your outfits?
Starting point is 01:01:43 For sure. Some people don't be getting the vision. But, I mean, you can own it now. I mean, you're... I appreciate that, man. Look, they could roast me. They could cook me. They could deep fried meat, like a saute, whatever they want.
Starting point is 01:01:59 I'm that niggard. Like, I know. It's nobody who can fuck with my fashion sense and my taste is impeccable. I'm just like, I impress myself a lot. What is your proudest non-work achievement, non-music achievement? My family, man, just being a, like, a dude to like show guys like, yo, get you a nice girl. chill out sometimes because like look at Shannon's shop, look at, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:31 girls be, you know, I don't want to throw people under the bus or nothing like that, but like, they ought to get you right now. You could have a little bit of money. You could have a lot of bit of money. You got a little bit of fame. You can be very famous. You could be synonymous or anonymous,
Starting point is 01:02:46 but they out here to just, you know, make a name for themselves. Dudes is worse than females these days. You got dudes that. that's having sex with girls and then going on podcasts to talk about it. You know, it's just like, everybody got the game fucked up. It's these youngsters, so I ain't outside like that.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Like, they scared me, you know what I'm saying? And I think I got out the game at the right time, you feel me? For me, I'll say that one of my weak points was people pleasing, you know, where you start thinking to other people's feelings and managing their feelings before you even... That's what got me to this place. People pleasing, giving a fuck.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Fuck having survivors remorse or survivor's guilt and fuck that shit. Look, life is like this. We evolve. We're born to evolve. You got to realize that's why they show you the man evolution from primate to caveman to now, even though I don't think that any of my ancestors with caveman. But that's another story. But basically, I feel like if I'm in a place where I'm evolving creatively,
Starting point is 01:03:54 or my integrity or my creative integrity or just I'm maturing at a certain pace. If my peers who are really close to me aren't growing at that rapid pace at the same time, I mean, it's quiet. It's nothing I could do because I'm going to have to really come down to your level to really see you out of eye at that point.
Starting point is 01:04:20 I'm not trying to step on nobody and make it seem like I'm a big man like that. because of my success and, you know, accolades. Man, Snoop Dogg told me this in 2013 on the interview. He told me, you're going to have friends that's going to stay here, and you're going to go there. And the only way for y'all to be friends, you got to come back down here. Man, fuck that shit.
Starting point is 01:04:43 I ain't doing that no more. How easy is it to spring clean to let Deadway go? Oh, I'll do you talking about my closets. Oh, you mean literally, no, no. Oh, yeah. Oh, I mean, I spring clean in the winter and fall, all that. But, um, but I mean spring cleaning in terms of, I know what you mean. Like, you know, if I'm the smartest guy in my circle, then I'm like, I need a new circle.
Starting point is 01:05:07 I need to be a new least more. You know why I never really fucked with that theory and concept? Really? You know why I don't fuck with that? Why? Because every circle need a leader. The leader has to be smarter by default. Who you're going to follow?
Starting point is 01:05:20 That's kind of like a paradox. All right. You planted that in my head. All right. Low key. Low key. That's nothing wrong with that light. Aesab Yams was a month younger than me.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Right. He was my leader. He was my mentor. And we was the same fucking age. Right now, Robert Galado, happy birthday to you. That's my brother. Today is his birthday. Happy birthday, bro.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Happy birthday. He is my creative director and mentor to this day. I got mentors like my lawyer. He's my big brother My manager Then I got personal people Who mentor me I'm never ever too old
Starting point is 01:06:03 Or too big or too cool To learn or follow somebody else lead Because you can't know everything man And that's the thing You know how much pressure it is being a leader You know I've been the leader of a crew For over 15 years You think I wanted that shit
Starting point is 01:06:19 I did my best for everybody to look at us equally. Are you reluctant leader? Are you comfortable with leading? If the shoe fit, I wear it. I don't ever want to be labeled as such. I do what I do. And if these motherfuckers follow suit, then that mean they look as good as I look.
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