The Questlove Show - Black Music Month QLS Classic: Biz Markie

Episode Date: June 10, 2024

In 2017, Questlove Supreme interviewed a Hip Hop legend, the only Biz Markie. This two-hour episode covers TV shows like Yo Gabba Gabba, his legendary record collection, his brotherhood with The Beastie Boys, and the secrets he will never share. Tragically, B-I-Z left us in 2021, but he remains in our hearts, and this conversation endures as a look into the life of a pioneer and legend.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We often speak about it on Quest Love Supreme, and we've had some of the legends responsible for the recognition on the show. Every day this June, we are running a different episode from the QLS archives to honor the tradition and intent of Black Music Month. This week, we are focusing on some of the great hip-hop conversations in the QLS catalog. Our leader, Questlove, has a new book out called Hip Hop is History. Check it out at questlove.com. This is a conversation with the late Biz Marquis that first aired in the summer of 2017.

The Biz. May he rest in peace. helped bring a brand of authentic but funny hip-hop to so many audiences. This is like an NW.A. Record. Hey, yo, Trey, turn my levels up. I bet. Suprema, S-S-S-S-Sprima roll call. Suprema, S-S-Soprima role call. Suprema, S-SUPriam role call.

Suprema role call. So Bob James Bell is Mardi Gras. Biz claims the song. Yeah. Survey says Yeah Subra Roll Call

Supra Supra Supra Roca My name is Fonte Yeah I like to ball Yeah

Because my house Yeah Is the Abbey Square Mall Roll call Supra Supraima Suprima

Roca C Suprema Subima Rol My name is Sugar Yeah With Biz Marquis

Yeah And this is roll call. Yeah. Nobody beats me. Roll call. Suprema. Suprema, sub, sub, sub, suprema roll call. Suprema, sub, sub, sub, suprema roll call. I'm unpaid bill. Yeah. Raps to do. Yeah. Shout out to Bismarkey. Yeah. Men in black, too.

Roll call. Suprema, sub, sub, sub, sub, suprema roll call. Supraima, sub, sub, subprima role call. Boss Bill, I am. Yeah. Not a Republican. Yeah. Just wanted to say.

Yeah. Fuck Gilbert O'Sullivan. Roll call. Supremea. Suprauma. Role call. Suprema, Subrema,

Suprema, Role call. Yeah. About this paper. Yeah. Y'all better watch out. Slow. But y'all get them vapors.

Roll call. Supreme. You landed on time. There was turbulence in the middle verse. Subt. Suprema. I am the emmaza. Yeah.

I'm with the sugars. Yeah. And what I do? Yeah. I'm picking burger. Suprema. Suprema, sub, sub, Suprema role call.

Suprema, sub, sub, subprima role call. Suprema, sub, sub, sub, suprema roll call. Suprema, sub, sub, sub, sub, Suprema roll call. Yeah. Wow. Bisc gets an A plus for his verse. Yeah.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another edition of Questlove Supreme, only on Pandora. I am Questlove with me. Team Supreme. We got a Fonticilo in the place. TIG-Tig. I got to go old school with the names, but with the double names. Oh, yeah. Tig, yeah.

Tig, Tic. That's really cool, cool. No, no. We got unpaid bill. Yeah. How you doing, man? I'm great. You're great.

I'm fucking excited. You're fucking excited. Bismarquis here. Of course, of course he is. Sugar Steve, you doing better? I'm great, man. I'm great. How great are you?

Average grade. Not 100%. Medium. Medium. Medium. And we got boss Bill in the place to be. What's up? How you doing?

And Laiya? Yep, show is. A.K. Margaret. And our guest today, ladies and gentlemen, is probably next to L.L. Cool J, one of the timeless figures in hip hop culture that has transcended

decades has never going stale always around doing stuff and I mean you can call him a pioneer you can call him an innovator you can call him a pop culture

collector historian you could call him everything but most importantly you got to call him the diabolical the diabolical So, Biz Marquis, welcome to Quest Loves to Please. Yeah.

Quartz, what's up? What's up? Yeah. I'm glad I'm here with you, sir. Biz, I don't ever recall you doing an in-depth interview ever. Like, it's like we all know you. You're ubiquitous. You're everywhere.

But I don't know if we really know your story. I'm into the level that we should know it. But I do know that everyone that speaks of you, that I work with, and I've worked with everyone, has the highest level of respect for your, you know, your contribution and all your knowledge of hip-hop. So thank you for doing the show with us today. Oh, come on.

You know, I couldn't let it turn it down. All right. So before we start your story, we got to get to, the elephant in the room. Just admit it, Biz. There is no bell as my god. Yes, there is. Wait, Biz.

No, listen to me. Can I explain? Wait, before we do, Lai, do you know? No, I don't know. Okay, see, I always have to ask Lai first, and then I know it in the general public news. But wait, let me explain, let me explain the premise of it. Biz has inadvertently created

pop culture collectors in all of us. I'll say that the very first person that I've ever heard of buying out factories, buying additional houses for their collections of, be it toys, dolls, board games, clothes, old videotapes, old movies, records, 45s, old machine, like, basically what my house is now. Yeah, I was about to say this.

The black version of the 40-year-old version. So he's to blame for all your crap. Yes. For, yes, all the stuff that we've had to rummage through. Biz is to blame for it. You're the reason he has 18 storage units right now all along these coast. But I mean, there's a bunch of us.

But the thing is is that... I'm like to farce with that. It starts with... It starts with Biz claiming that there's a record out there that we all turn the earth over for. never seemed to find. And only biz, quote, has it. So, take me to the monitor now. Yes.

Name the record. Name the record. Take me to the monitor. Now, every, you record. You're a recorder. You record the records, right? Of course. Now, when you went to mastering,

have you ever had a record that was mastered that you didn't want because it was, it was the wrong sound or something wasn't right? Yes. Yeah. I've, you know what? Yes. Okay.

There's an original version of Michael Jackson's off the wall that does not have the handclaps and rock with you that I later found out that was... Now, they got to make the music the same way. Okay. Where it's no bells, it's just the drums with the shakers. Okay. We scrapped that. There was only a, there was only... So you say there's some...

There was only 35 to 50 put out of make the music. It was an EP. Okay. Some people got it. But the thing is, I'm trying to tell you. The original EP? The original EP. With the black and white Coca-Cola.

Yeah. But there's two different ones. Okay. There's one with the Isaac Hayes. Right. And there's one that's... They've got the Isaac Hayes in the middle one with the hook. The version that's on the record.

Now, with the Mardi Gras. Right. I don't know where I got it from. I'm not a snitch. There's what it is. It's 30 years later. No, you're not, no, no, no, no. Like, no one's holding the infrared on your record dealers.

Listen to what I'm saying. Yes. So the Mardi Gras, since everybody knows Mardi Gras is a live record. It is? Yes, Mardi Gras is a live record. You can hear the people talk, play your Mardi Gras. Mardi Gras, you can hear the people talking in the background. Well, I assume asking Bob James, that was the sound effects of a bunch of animals.

Okay. And farm noises. Back in the days, Bob James. and all them f-th-th. I was John Lee was here. Where's Von Lee when I knew? Put it's right.

A lot of musicians back then don't remember. No. You're going to tell me, you get fly right, you get slashed on right now. He cannot sing family affair the way he's singing.

You right. This is drug-free, right? Like, you ain't never dabble. Now, listen to me. You're not going to act like I asked you to say. I don't know how many of them are out? Listen to me. I don't know how many of them out.

any of them I out, but when I got it, I had it since the 90s. It's like an acetate. Okay. So when I got it and I battled this dude named Top Speed in Indianapolis. Oh, I know Top Speed. You know. Okay. When I put it on, then everybody started talking about it.

So you're saying, all right, just to let, just to let. Take it to the Mardi Gras. Just a let Margarita. Margarita. Margarita. I already feel like I had 12 rounds. Gillette. I didn't know.

And there's 12, like a lot of people don't think there's 12 inches of Montegro one-sided. They do got Mardi Gras, 12 inches, real on CTI, one-sided. My man Supreme LaRoc from Seattle got him. I got them. A couple of us got them. I'm just letting you know. All right, I'm going to play you. You would know it as the Peter Piper Bells.

Oh, all right. So basically, now, Biz claims he has a version. of Mardi Grout without the bells in it, just the drums, thus sending us into a financial tailspin. I put off broad. No, it's for real.

Like, I joke about it, but, you know, it's, when you get in this industry, football players, sports people, the first person besides yourself that you treat for is your mama. In my never-ending

bid to find, this record and acquiring all the other records well I can't find I'll take these I'll take these I'll take these I'll take this I'll take one record I know but I put off by my mama's house but listen to me search it's one record I'm a person that has one of the most extensive record collections that you ever will see

I know this how many records you got that you never seen people with there's a lot of records I probably got 14 no no no I'm talking about how many records that you bought that you never seen nobody else with I know for a fact that I have 14 one of ones, like something that no one else will have but me. But I got like at least... I know you got a trillion. I got like at least 2,000, I'd never seen nobody.

I never see no body. That's like what people, when I came out at the park with my SL 700. Yes. Sorry. I'm still waiting for mine. I said I'm still waiting for mine. Look, look, soon as I... Piz, you've been saying this family.

I'm fighting with them. These are old men I'm fighting with. What do you want me to do? I can't make them do something. It sounds like he said acetate. It sounds like it's a test pressing. What happened is that it's a mistake. You know how if you're listening to something and something you don't hear

and then you go back and do it over or come on you, no, come on. I have no, I have no reason to lie about one record. I'm just saying. Well, since we're talking about it, we might as well do a special edition of BIS. You guess. Yeah. Oh. Busy guests.

Busy guests. Yes. One time only a biz you guess. So since you are the record master, we do this thing where we have producers on the show. Identify songs. Now, normally with Tip and Primo and Pete, I've done snares or just, but with you, we're doing the doctorate degree course on this. I'm going to give you not even half a second. Biz.

Not even. Not even half a second. Biz looks psyched. This is easy. And I'm doing stabs. I'm not even doing snares, kicks or hi-hats. I'm doing stabs.

Biz, what is this song? Oh. That's, um, that's, um, engine number nine. I'll play it again. Nope.

It's, yeah. I hear that the, the, the bongles. I can't. I know the record. I just.

All right. Oh, come on. That don't even count. No, no, no. First of all the DJs used to play south side movement on 45. Okay, well, and plus, give me a story about the record because I know you have some weird story about. Well, first of all, back in 81 or 80, they used to have a record store called Downstairs Records.

Yes, I've heard of it. On 42nd Street and 8th. Okay. Downstairs. Yeah, it's still there. Elroy used to be, it used to be like a thing. It used to be a thing right here. He used to stand on that.

He used to have the records on the wall. That album went for like $10. Just the single alone or? No, the album that it came from. And it said moving on it. Okay. Wait, what do you mean still there, Steve? In the subway, right?

Yeah. That's not, it's not a different one. Oh, okay. Okay, that was right. After a while, it moved to up, it moved upstairs, then it moved to 43rd Street. All right, here's your second one, Biz. I can't do it.

That's too short. Yeah. You're going to win this all done. No, no. No. All right. Oh, come on, man. I played easy stuff.

Come on, man. Breakthrough by Isaac Hayes. Come on. That's breakthrough. All right, all right. Truck Turner. Any, any breakthrough stories? Breakthrough.

First top. I heard breakthrough was Bambata and Jazzy J was cutting it in the park where Bronx

Bronx River Bronx River Azul Nation anniversary okay this is your third record oh

I know what that is I know what that is I know what it is over her I know the record I can't think of it right now. I know the record. All right.

Barry White. No. No, no, no. That's our bouncy lady. Bouncy Lady. Bouncy Lady by Pleasure. Dush yourself off out. Any details of...

I don't even know. First time I got the Bouncy Bouncy Lady albums was from King Carol. It was a record store. Downstairs, I mean, Flash was cut in one time and it sold out a Downcy downstairs, so I had to go down the street to King Carroll on 43rd. I mean, 42nd, between 7th and 6th. So I'm assuming that all the records that I initially first acquired on the Ultimate Beats and Breaks compilations, you got firsthand because you were first generation witnessing

flashing on, okay, cool. All right, here's your fourth record. Come on, let's get out of my life woman. Lee Dorsey. Were you the first to use that? De La Sol used it first, but they used it fast. They used their far. And I know you better.

That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. Okay. And they used it for the baseball joint on the, was that the name? Yeah.

But just the freaking out of the second album. Yeah. That was De La Sol was that album. All right. Here's your last record, Biz. In round one of Biz, you guessed it. It's not like a cue tip. I'll do a little pre-roll for you.

This is so easy. I'm picking the easiest breaks of all time. Wow. Okay. I wouldn't have picked. Yeah. Superman Lover by Texas is on. Johnny Guitar Watch.

But the thing is, I never looked at Superman Love is a break. Really? So it was never, the intro was never rhymed over in. No. That wasn't a problem. break. Really? Breaks is like scratching. I can't stop. So stuff between 110 BPMs and faster. You know, I mean, I don't know about the speed. I'm just saying records that, you know, you had to have naked drums. Naked drums. You had to have like Mardi Gras Nautilus. You know what I mean?

Tea Life. You got that, right? Yeah, of course I have that. That was round one of biz. And we'll come with a part two later. All right, so, Biz, where were you born? I was born in Harlem in colonial projects. You're from Harlem. Then I moved away when I was 10 to Long Island, and I grew up in Long Island. I mean, I lived in Patchaw, you know. So you, because I've heard Jersey, I've heard Brooklyn, Queens.

I feel like you lived everywhere. No, I moved a Jersey after records. I stayed with my sister a little in Brooklyn in like 83. And then 84 is when I met Marley and him. Okay. So what, I mean, did you aspire to be a DJ at first or like what was? I took, I had some of my records. I got bored with rap.

So why records? Like, you had a father that was a collector or you, like, how did you inherit it? My pop used to play with Coltrane and then back in the day. Wow. You're a jazz kid. Yeah. My pops used to play, my pops used to play with Sunny Stitt, you know, back in the 60s and 50s. So, but no, I'm just the, I was just a collector.

I started collecting, my first 45 was Ben. Okay. So then when hip hop came out, like my man, when I was in Long Island in 78, my man bought an L brother's tape out. grand was the theater. So I got bit by the bug after that. What's your dad's name? Royal Hall.

Yeah, he plays saxophone. Okay, thank you. Steve's our resident jazz fetish. I'm going to tell you another person, father that used to play in the clubs, jazz and stuff, Martin Sheen. The Martin Sheen?

President Martin Shee. You're the back of the day. Martin Estevez. Wow. Back of a day? Back of a day? I mean, that's my past home. Damn.

Back in the day. Because back then, you could go to them things in Manhattan, them little clubs and playing, you know what I mean? His father or him? Him. Oh, wow. Oh, Martin Sheen used to him. Oh, wow.

He's about in his early thousands right now. I can't. He might be teetered on 80. No, but, wow, I never knew. What do he play? I don't know. I'm just telling you he told me. Oh.

You don't know what instrument he played piano? I just know he played or he was there. I don't believe. Anyway, for my mom, that wasn't lie about that. Well, I'm going to bring his name up. Okay. No, it's rather random to bring it up.

Look, everything you tell me, I'm taking for your word, Biz. I'm just saying, I just never found a Marnie Gar record. But I digress. Anyway, so, Never found turntables either. Hey.

We've seen the evidence of the turntables, though. It could be Photoshop, though. True. The turntables are. I'm playing. Oh, so Biz has a pair of techniques that only play 45s. Oh, wow. Yeah.

I mean, it's ill, but no one else can get them but Biz. Why are they, wait, why is that? I'm skipping all over your timeline, Biz. Why do you have these? First of all, what happened was. The techniques make these? Yeah, technique. What happened was back.

in the day, before, like, 88. You've had these since 88? No, no, I'm telling you a story. No, back of the day before, they were going to put them out like in the 80s, but then the CD boom came and everything, so they scrapped them. And what, these were just in the factory, like, stop? Yeah, so when I went out to Japan to do yo gabba-gabba, I started, I started having it. I started You got somebody great-grandson and yo gabba-gabas, the kids, I'm hanging with them.

So, hey, it brought me to the factory, and I saw so many turntables that was incredible. Wow. So I saw them, and they was in the corner. So I made a lot of trades for that. All right, before I go back to your timeline, I might as well go there. Biz, okay, your house of records are on fire. Knock on wood. Your house of, okay, well, knock on wood.

Your house of records are on fire, okay? Here. What five records are you going to save? I mean, one of them is the- Bartigra. Grab that shit. Which five records from your burning house on fire are you going to save?

My devotion, live 45. To who? My devotion. Every point of fire? Yeah. Wait, there's a 45 of devotion on, from gratitude? Live.

Yeah, from gratitude. Clap your hands to see. That's on 45? Yeah. Jesus Christ. Okay. Your house is burning, by the way. This is the sound.

What else? Sound of fire. Burning house on fire. My tea plays it cool on 45. There's a T-Plays. Are these promo copies? Go-Go-in-it. You got it right there?

T-play's cool. I'm already-D. I'm looking them up. I'm looking them up. Are these, like, white-label promo copies or a regular? I got one that is an EP. It's on tape car records. Tape car records.

Look it up. It's an EP. It's an EP. It's an EP in trouble. It's going to be lit this episode. I don't believe it. When he, when he pull it up, I want an apology. Go ahead.

Another song for that? No, dude. Go ahead, Biz. I'm believing it out. Oh, shit. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Here's a, she plays a cool 45 from the UK. Oh, no, from Turkey.

Excuse me. I'm trying to tell you. You'll gabba gab on turkey. Fairly there, too. So go ahead. I got to find out of this. That's your fire effect. That's my fire effects.

Well, all right. The rest's going to burn. Wait a minute, come, business, as many records you got? I can't, it's too many. You're going to save the... Mahamah Ali 45. Say what?

Okay, okay. I've seen, yes, I've seen that one. Yes, I've seen that. Because it's signed. I can't think of nothing else. Damn. There's too many records. So you're like 45s more than LPs?

You're a 45s guy? The reason I started DJing with 45s? You're just letting all these records melt? I don't know them out. They had its time. What about your other artifacts? You didn't say that. You just said records.

So now, Biz, your artifacts' house is burning. What are you saving? I'm taking my two pair of SL-700s, one with the curve arm, one with the straight arm. I'm taking my flasces beatbox that he gave me. Oh, you own a beatbox? Yes.

He gave that to you? Yep. He gave me the name. I got it. Bitch, can you reveal what that drum machine is? Biz! Look, I want you and Pete Rock. I want you and Pete Rock.

But, Biz, what you got to understand is you've seen, and this is the fire is still burning. It's getting hot here. But the thing is, you are, how are you going to? how are you going to stop me from getting my stuff as you got the fire burner? I'm setting the fire and helping you save it at the same time, Biz. But wait, this is what I'm saying.

Now, I can see back in... I can see back in 88, 89, 90, when it was a breathless race to the finish to find some ill shit and then recreate some ill shit. But this started from 81 to 82. So I'm older in y'all, so...

I know, but listen, Biz, here's the point. now but we can agree that you utilized it to its inf degree between the late 80s and the mid-aughts either by sampling making records or playing it for us in concert as a DJ so what I'm saying is you do acknowledge in 2017 there is a somewhat of a drought going on in hip-hop culture as you know it Now, I'm not saying that everything should stay the same, nothing else should change. Yes, I love the, you know, the evolution of musical culture. But I would almost rather someone that's listening to this program,

search for that flash drum machine so they can go out and make some fresh. Nope. Why? You and Pete are the most secret of people, but. How are we secret because we got something we want everybody. I know the definition of C-Bron. I know what makes you, we know what makes you unique,

but wouldn't you want after, okay, you don't tell everybody everything you got? I do. No, you don't. I share. I get my. I'm not talking about sharing MP3-5. I take people.

I'm not talking about MP3-5. Look, to get Mike falling. You know, come on, sir. I'm saying this. I'm stating this. No, no. I'm stating this for the record. I understand that chair and stuff.

I've taken about, I've taken about maybe 200 people in my lifetime record shopping, bin shopping. Like, why keep it all to my money? No, I'm saying. I took like 2,000, 3,000. All right. Just, sorry, John. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, you guys, Jazzy Jeff. You can ask cash money.

Can I ask Juan? You got flash. You got Vonn. You gag. You got, you guys. Your boy, Roshan? He's his number. We can't reach him.

We can't reach him. Primo wanted me to call him on this show. Premo was my man. Come on, son. He told me all the questions to ask you. But I'm just saying that... Should he just share it with you and then it'll be cool? Like, him got to share it.

Not even for me. I'll tell you all. I can't tell you on. I can't let the world... There's some secret you can't just let a call. Check out. Check it out. is it more important

is it more important for you to make your unique mark on the world or is it more important that on your dying day your death bed that you know that there's 10 biz marquee like

disciples that are going to dying with it I'm going to dying with it I don't care with my last talk you're going to be on the yo miss can you Please.

All right, bitch. Let's go to Harlem. Let's go back to Harlem. Come on, son. Word up, man. Damn, biz. You got his house burning down. You got him dying.

He's still not giving it up. What? All right, man. And flashed me like, oh, I thought you were going to tell nobody, God. Uh-uh. It'd be like that twilight zone when that lady said, I want that dude said to the lady, don't never tell nobody or the devil's going to come. Maybe I am the devil.

Did not tell you not to tell nobody? All right, biz. All right, all right. So in Harlem, when did you first start at, like, you got your first record when you was, what? No, 45. It wasn't hip-hop. I just got. Ben.

Yeah, Ben. You got to start somewhere. All right, so when did the bug hit you that, yo? I, was it DJing first or was it MCN or? B-box. All right, now I know you're going to, I want you to set the record straight on the, who was the first cat that you heard? Or are you that first cat? Who is the first cat to go on record to say, this is the beat box?

the first one I heard besides me was Dougie so Dougie so Doug is the original human bee boxing Yeah that's the first one I ever heard So where does Buffy fall in line of business He was just the first to get to Everybody's from different places

Buffy was from Brooklyn That's why me and a Dougie and a Buffy never sound the same We were from different places So you would never go to Brooklyn I'm from Long Island I'm from Patrick. I'm from like,

you're from Philly? I'm from like Country Hawkins. That sounds delicious. You don't even count that in Philly, son. Tell you. I'm like from Hershey, Pennsylvania. You don't even count that, son.

Keep it real. All right, but I'm just saying that you're, so at what point did New York start to do this cross-cultural colonization where a Queens cat, we'll go to Brooklyn with no beef

and Brooklyn would come to Long Island and besides the parents moving. Okay. The way I started, back in 82, I was handing out flies for Mike and Dave. You know Mike and Davis? No. Mike and Dave had,

they had a label, but they had crews like the crash crew. Okay. Master Dawn, Boogie Boys, Dougie, Rob Bass. All of us started, Fat Man's School. All of us started from under them. They used to hand...

You know, you want to be on. They threw parties? Yeah, they do all day. It was like one big promoters. So we had... I used to hand out flies for them. And then I just watched and learned and learned and learned.

So is this where the basis of vapors verse came into play where... The basis of... The vapors' verse came in is I was on my block and the kids down the block had a crew. I wanted to be in the crew, but I always had to be in, my parents were strict, so I had to be in when the light was out.

So I always asked, can I be down? And since I wasn't a cool cat and I wasn't smoking and I wasn't drinking, no, you can't be down. I went back into the lab and tried to get as best I can. And doing that, my time came. Vapers. He made the vapor effects, ladies and gentlemen. So I'm noticing a pattern that all musical savants and icons are either legacy kids of parents that were musicians or people that had to follow Richard Pryor, have your ass home. Strip parents, yeah.

When the streetlights come on. Streetlight, yeah. No messing around. So under that crew, were you DJing first or you said you were beatboxing first? Bibba's rapping. Like, I used to snap on people. Like, I was always a funny guy like, shitty shinnati, your nose is snotty.

Every time I see you, you're begging somebody. But if you're egging, you're begging, you're begging and you're humming, God almighty, I hate to see you coming. Mike drop movement. Bismarkey, ladies and gentlemen. Actually, Premier just hit me. He said,

Ask Biz, between you and Bid's, Big Shug from Gangstar, who would win the snapping contest. Come on. He saw what I did to him. But then Primo also followed up that if this says, now you know how I do, tell Biz he's lying. Hey, yo, hey, hey, hey, hey, ask Prim, I said, I said something, something, something, something. And then I told him, I told Big Sugar he had a hip hop starter kid on.

Prebing them, preaming them was peeing at themselves. He said that, yeah, and he... Because I was on tour with Gangstar, Rest in Peace, you know, we were on, we was on tour in Japan. He told me that, and then you proceeded to stay... He said that the most amazing thing of that Japan tour was the fact that you were the first cat that he saw bin shopping and then

you somehow managed to have the promoter paid for all your shipment back to the state and that the shipment was actually more than the records and wait talk about the van now see

I hate this whole like my generation and when cats be like Hey, what's up OG? Because I feel like we're all the same hip-hop generation, but I'm just saying that... There's layers. For when... All right, so for my layer of hip-hop,

DJ Premier's van was like the be-all-end-all van to test your music. I'm gonna get to you, Biz. I'm gonna give you the credit. Biz, look at it. Biz got his guns out already. You better give me credit. But I could tell you a story about that, though. But yes, when Premier told me,

Yo, dog, Biz was the first cat I saw. MPV. Yes. Oh, MPVs, man. Can I tell you your story now? Yes, tell me the story. Well, can I put the fireside chat? We got Ms. Mark, you fired?

Yes. And now? Well, they had some, my boys from uptown, and I think y'all saw the movie paid him full. Yes. Well, I used to hang with A-Z. I used to hang with Alpo. I used to hang with Rich Porter.

Rich Porter was one of the flyest dudes. known to a man to this date. Okay. Right? So he had an MPV first. Right? And I said, yo, man, what is that? Blah, blah, blah.

So I sat in there with him. We talked for about an hour, half an hour. The next day I went to got two of them. I got a black one expensive. I had money. I had you. You got money, though. Okay.

Right, right, right. So. I'm sorry, what's an MPV? Oh, it's a Honda. Multi-purpose fan. So what I did was... I'm glad you asked that because if I were asked that,

Bill would have been like Google it. Right? No, I would have been like, I was going to read to ask. So, so I got B1 and I got Cool V or Blue one. So, but with mine, I put like 12,000 of system in there.

You got thinking 89, that's a lot of money. So why didn't get a Jeep like everyone else? I don't want to get a Jeep. I want to be different. Okay. So it's like a cool-ass soccer pop bin. But it's the, I had everything in it.

But it had an era when like cool dudes used to drive it. Yeah, that was like the drug dealer van. I had a dat, cassette, everything in it. I never heard of a tat player in a car. Google it. Wow. Only because Primo had one that I believe this story because. That is crazy.

Yeah. So at the time, I mean, I used to see Primo, blah, blah, blah, blah. and he saw my joint, he got one, but then he got one with deep dish rims, and I say, yo, Prine, will you get there for? Because I had black, I had black and chrome BBSs, and he had the deep dish joints. I said, yo, shun.

Funk! All right, so from beatboxing, and I'm always going to go back in time, so from beatboxing to, to DJ. Oh, so rap next? Yeah, yeah, because I had to make records. But when I first heard of you

was Defresh Crew with Roxanne Sanchez. Beboxing, yeah. So how did the whole Philly connection with pop art records and Lawrence Goodman and all that happened? What happened was Chantay made Roxanne's revenge. Okay. So Tyrone Williams and Molly and him

hooked up with Lawrence Goodman and him. Okay. Lawrence Goodman, the... Maybe you shouldn't I think of it? Youngster. Yeah. Yeah, he was a tough dude. He was tough, dude, him and his brother. So, um, was there ever a nice guy in the music industry?

Like, all the black guys? Not from Philly. We put Lawrence Goodman, Shug Knight. No, but he was cool. I mean, all of them was cool with me, but I'm just saying, and then at the time, I wanted to make a record bad, so I got on with Chante. And, but my thing, my fame, my claim to fame was the tape from B,

from Roseland with Chin. You heard that? Yes, it's. Then I got, then I made the, the record with Chante. And then I was begging Lawrence Goodman, yo, I want to make a record, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. What year was the Deschante record?

What year was that? 85. 85. Yeah. So, wait, they used to play that Roseland tape on radio up here or? Yeah, what? Mr. Magic? World, world, premiere, premiere, per minute. All right.

Who is that? A world premiere, permit. That's him, right? That's him. Yeah. Okay. Do you have an original copy of that World Movie? That's what I do.

You did it? I actually do, Biz. Yes, I would love to get sharing. Sharing is caring. I always share that with you, but I'm not telling you the name of the wet. I'm going to find that drum machine one way or another. This way. I'll bring it out.

I'll let you see it. Now, if you get the name off it, I'll show you. It's brand. I show you it, but I can't tell you in your face. And on the air, okay, I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it.

Anyway. So, yeah, so based on that, actually, wait, can I play that for a second? The, the live routine with Biz. You got it? Yes, this is the live routine of Biz Marquis by MC Shan. Uh, yeah. Okay, we ready to rock. You ready, Shan?

Start it off, Ben. Tell them who we are. One one, two, one, two, up. Up. On one, two, up. I like to introduce myself. My name is Bismarkey. And that's MCC.

And Marley Marl And Mr. Madden Can't forget Fottop M. M.O. Mike C. Am I mic harmony And

St. Brown. We're going to do a little something Like this. Okay. I have a question, Biz. And your B boxing technique, because you're definitely, while as most B-boxers, their kick and their snare, both had the same range, you're, like, in your mind, are you playing a rim shot? Like, what, like, I know for, like, for you to be a crash or a rim shot. And my bass is different.

My bass is like, so you are hum. with the B-box. Huh? You were hum with your kick drum to give it extra 80-8. You know how you want to give that extra sound like Right.

So I was looking at it. I was looking at it as an 808. So you know how the 808 got the But what I'm saying is at least with the human beatbox from the fat boys, I always heard him and Ducky for that part

emulating impeach the president. So when B-boxes do They're doing What is the beat Right What is the break in your head That you're emulating When you're

I'm trying to get as close To the record as possible Which record though What's the record in your head That you're emulating Which record? Because you don't do Impeas to President like break

You do like No I go I want I rarely hear you do that break though So I'm saying And plus You're the first

beatbox. I know that rhymed and beatboxed at the same time. I wanted to be different, so. You are different. Let that be no. So, okay, so when Defresh Crew came out, and this was an era

where hip-hop was still quasi-regional, that in school you could bite some shit and claim credit for it and live with it. Now, I think I got away with that. that meow mix. Oh, meo, meo, meo, meow, meow, meow, meow,

so all the white kids in school thought I was the shit. Like, he could do mea mix. Like, that was always the thing. Like, and then, like, maybe seven weeks later, then I got busted and it was like, all right, yeah, this is marquee. But, like, how, how, you know, at what, at what point do you, do you transfer to rap and getting with Marley

at that time I was with them so I was keeping quiet as a rapper I'm just happy to be down so once they gave me my chance to make a record I already had records written and why does everyone start off as a DJ

in this crew like even Kane started out as a DJ well Kane started out as my partner of rhyming because I had to show him I had to show him stage presence. I showed him different styles. I showed him how to be on stage. You know, if there's something wrong,

you know to go to the next rhyme. It's like you drumming, right? If you break a stick, you know to go to... Oh. You know to go to the next... Oh, damn. You know to go to the next stick. Right, right, right.

Yeah. How to keep it moving. So where do you get your experience from? because, you know, you grew up in an era where, I mean, now it's even harder because it's like unless your YouTube song has 10 million views, it's really hard to capture people's attention unless your song's just larger than life. Whereas back then, you had to have actual genuine talent and you had to have hot. Right. So what was it like going on in these states? Like, what if you were whack, what would happen?

boom there's no hamburgis everything at you I've seen why hamburgers did everything

I'm gonna tell you I was a town I was on tour I was on tour with salt pepper fat boys

everybody they had this lady trying to be do another rendition of I need love oh no where

what territory we was the North Carolina, Greensboro. Wow. They hit away. Eggs, everything. Change. Yes.

Gen. NC stand up. I love it. Are you proud of this? Yeah, that's my home town. I grew up. I grew up in Greensboro. Yeah, I know that, but you're proud of this?

Did you ever throw a hamburger in anything? Yeah. Or change? No, no, we was poor. I would ate that hamburger. You'd never. Yeah. I'm proud.

Wow. I'm proud. I understand. Wait, Greensboro, that's where my family from. Are you serious? Dude, like, my grandparents have, like, 19 brothers and sisters. Yes.

Wow. Oh, God. What's your family last thing? Holman? Please tell me you're related. Please tell me you're related. Who investigate later? Ancestri.com.

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They're kind of doing like an oral history of like just hip hop tales. And I forget who it was, but there was an incident in North Carolina where your record collection saves somebody from y'all getting shot up or something. Yeah. Not me.

I was in the room, but check this out. Let me get my fireside check. Go ahead. Hit the introduction, Bill. You ready? Yes. Hit it. Okay, now, my man Jeff and them, they was in the car.

What happened was hot dog that used to be down with Chup Rock. I'm Chub Rock in the run. Yes. Well, they were trying to talk to these girls. They were trying to talk to these girls. Right. Something happened. They were cop blocking.

I mean, something happened. I think one of the dancers hit a girl. Oh, no. So the girl's boyfriends came up or something. It was my man Jeff right here. Shante, all of them was in the car. But you know, I mean, you know. You're a DJ, so you know when you pack your pack?

Yes. You know that long case? Yes. I had the long case of 12 inches, but I packed it and packed it and packed it. Where you can almost can't even take it right out? Where's the luggage? Huh? If y'all in North Carolina, where's the luggage if all?

It's on the bus. We're coming from the show. So you have a bus and a car? There's a bus and a car too? No, the car is the runner that brings you back. Okay. I see, I see, okay. So they running and they took my,

then all these, these country dudes just came out, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And my records was behind them, and it was like a station wagon. Yeah. And it just, it didn't go through. And all the bullets. Bulletproof records.

Wow. What record got damaged? Something in the way you make me feel with the acapella. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Oh. Feeling all right gap band We remember

A trouble Wait, did you just ask me Where the record's all right Is it there? No, you guys are about to 18 inches But he knows exactly Yeah, you got a piece 12 inches, right?

No, come on, Biz No They got them with the Chinese chicken On the other side Yes, okay, I've seen those But those are like reprints No, no, no These were

They were reprints But these was the ones that was hard to find. These only downstairs had them at the time. Okay. From back in the day, they weren't selling them no more. Okay, okay. And that was a fireside chat.

There wasn't the ultimate breaks and beat joints. Okay. All right. The ones on Tough City, right? No. This is before Tough City. Okay. This is when they had the big beat with the coolest back on the other side, the green ones.

Then they had the, um, The Bozo-Migo ones? Yeah, the Bozo-O-Migo records. Well, that's what I... No, I know they reprints, but they ain't the tough city joints from now. Okay. These are the ones from 81. Yes, okay.

I've had a few of those. Okay, I get it. Yes, I didn't get an impeached to president, though, but I've had a few from those labels. So, as far as your album is concerned, like, how do you... What's the deal with the production? Was it just strictly...

Were you handing Marley these records? Did you not operate a drum machine? Did you... Okay, let me say. In the beginning days, like to make the music and stuff, Marley was master. The way he did Eric B. for president and all that, he's by far the best.

Now, as I'm learning from him, I got a 1,200. I think I was like one of the first with a $1,200. That was why he was $1,200 or a $12? 12. He had a 12. Damn. Okay. I got a 1,200 from the dude from, what's it, Emu, or Akai, one of them?

Emu. Emu? Right? So he first gave it to me. So I came over Marley house, and Molly said, what is that? That's what? All of a sudden, Molly hold my doing for two weeks. He didn't want to give it back. So we did, you know, I usually,

I always look for the crew records. So I look for cane. I look for breaks. So what I did was I hand Marley the records. He hook it up. I told him I want this, this, that. Then after a while, I started doing production myself. So that's why on the second album, I just did everything.

So how did you separate from Marley? Like how did you feel about that situation with Marley stepping away and going to Uptown? No, uptown was before. Uptown was before us. But I thought in 89 Marley went to... No, Marley just did one record on there. It wasn't the separation.

Which record did he do? He did Uptowns kicking it and stuff. He always did... He always did... He did... He did... Yeah, but he always did random stuff to get, you know, extra, you know.

Marley was Marley. So, you know... Why didn't he work on the Diabolical album, the second album? I wanted to do my own album. Did he... So he did nothing on that record, or... I wanted to do my own album.

I mean, he flew, you got what I need vocal to the second thing, but I did everything myself. So how did you, and Cool V did too. Okay. So how did you fall into that song? I mean, that song is probably the most timeless song. That song will never die. Probably, you know, when all said and done,

and, you know, they're going to do the library content, like five most important hip-hop songs, I'm certain that just a friend will be at least considered in the top ten, like, whatever, like the... What happened with that record was? I was at a house party in 82, right? So I'm hearing this dude.

What I'm thinking it's going. We all that ain't alone. So I'm here to do, I love that record. I said, so I couldn't, the dude left the party and I never found the name of the record. So I'm looking and looking. I never found the record. So I told Koov and Big Daddy Kahn, I said, yo, if I find this record, boom, boom, boom, puh, boom, puh, we own name, you.

Yo, I'm going platinum. We on name on. We on nail, yeah. We on neon. Yes, we are on the lawn. You're always left to bring. So I was hanging with Theodore. Theodore bought me to Danny Dan's house.

So Danny, I'm, you know, Danny cutting brakes. Danny Dan the beat man. He cutting breaks. All of a sudden, he threw that record on. Boom. I grabbed the phone. I said, yo, let me hear that. Let me hear that again.

Yo! Yeah! Right? So I drove over to his house. Right? I traded him Barbara Streisand album Wait

Wait Wait, wait, wait, wait Wait What? First of all First of all, do you know the album That Barbara Streisand got to break? I mean, I know

She didn't use me There's, there's No She has a cover of Use Me on 72 Queen B Oh damn, okay Remember the song we worked on? Wait, side note

Beyonce wanted to cover this So, really? Yeah, like, Beyonce and Barbara Streisand we're going to do a duet with each other of Queen B, and I produced it. Real song. Barbara Streisand has a song called Queen B. Yeah, tell me that B day.

It's dope. It's fucking crazy. Yeah, she did like a few funk joints like 73, 74. That was from the Starsborn movie, right? So this is what happened. Oh, because she didn't be in the movie. Okay. Yeah.

So I knew that he did not. that record. Right. So I went over there and traded him. So, you know, somebody he giving a $45, it's a dollar $45, he getting an album. Yeah, but it's a barber-striced sound album. But if you don't know the break, you understand hip-hop, if you don't know something. Yeah.

So it wouldn't have been cool just to... Were you using it for the purpose of sampling it? Or you just wanted to have that record? I wanted that record because I knew I was going to make a record off it, right? So... You couldn't just borrow the record or, you know, maybe you could set copy of that record. Not in hip hop. You trade.

I did not know that. You trade. Okay. So here's what happened. So a couple of weeks later, you know, because we started to be friends. So I'm hanging with him. So he plays Freddie Scott.

I said, I like that joy. So you said, yo, man, I don't got no more. So I gave him $200 for the 45. What? But look, but just, but. He made it back. So, look, look, look, you got to understand $200. At that time, I'm making, because I just came off tour with vapors and all that.

So I traded them $200. That's a lot of money. You think you got over. So is this Dan Dan, Dan we're talking about? So when Dan Dan is watching UMTV raps and watching the Hynequin commercial. Danny Dan the Beat Man, yeah. Is he like, yo, those are my. record. Right? So what happened was I went to my mom's house, you know, usually after

tour or something, you know, you go home, see your family. So I'm sitting in my old bed back in the day joint, bunk bed joint. Shout out the bunk bed. Yeah. So I'm sitting in there and I just wrote, I wrote just a friend in like 15 minutes. So when we went to the studio to do it, because we doing the second album, I tried to match up the Lee Dorsey. and just throw to Freddy Scott on top. But since the drum, your drummer, you know how a drummer plays too fast and it wouldn't match. So we tried to put it through the Puma sign.

If anybody remember a Puma sign? Ney. Huh? What? This is the first. You stumped the room? Pumasan is something that you put in and you put the records in so it could match. Oh, okay.

I think Bob Powell talked about something like that. Yeah, I didn't know it was called that. Yes, we use it. It wouldn't match. So what I did, I had a dude named Shane Faber. And he helped me play. He played and I said, no. So I sat there for like from 12 to 8 until he got the right piano sound.

You know how you're on a keyboard and the right and the piano don't sound right? I was going to say because you don't use that record on just a friend. That's the actual piano, right? So all of a sudden I'm telling him what to do, but he wanted to be jazz. Don't do what I'm telling you to do. Wait, do they know it sounds? No, son. Play it like you hear it.

So I'm sitting there. Yo, time out. Steve, that sound familiar? Yeah. Okay, good. So you know, he's- That's me all day with the roots. Go ahead.

He's trying to get, I'm like, no. So it's like $7.59 in the morning. Eyes feel like Gucci bags on them, right? All of a sudden, he found the right piano. Bing, ping, bing, bing, bing, bing, b'bong, bing. So I did it one pass, and then we looped it. So, I'm sorry. And now?

Exclusive, Fireside, Chad. So who are the lyrics about? Who's the friend? Is it the guy who sold you the record? Because he had what you need? There's a girl in the video. I'm not Uncle Peaches. Now, TIP says that, Q-Tip says there was an original version of Just a Friend.

You must be on speed. They was the Q-Tip. It was Q-Tip. Dale, I saw all of them was doing Buddy, and they were doing Buddy before I came into the studio. Right. And he was there. When I sung it to them, they bugged out. But they said that, girl, you must be on speed.

Yeah. And they were like, yo, like, change it and do the original. I did the radio. Oh, okay, okay. You got a hair weave and all that. You said it's just a rastole. So, wait, before I get to your next record, I got to ask. So your adlibs are probably, I mean, next to Lottie-Dotty, I don't think I've ever heard a more sampled ad-lib.

like what are your general feelings when you heard the main ingredient by Pete Rocker's still school what means Pete Rocker's cool anyway I know but when you were listening to yeah yeah like

how do you generally feel I mean are you from the school of okay well rappers can't call out or sue other rappers for sampling their joints nah but I mean Pete was cool so I wasn't thinking about that

Okay. So now with Alone Again naturally, tell us this story, man. Here's what happened with that. Hit it. Timeout. Bill gives the introduction. And now Fireside Chat number 75 with Biz Marquis. Hit it. What happened was I did the record with Alone Again. Right.

We got a verbal agreement from them. But my record company, Tyrone and them, I guess the people called back up and they cursed Gilbo or Seldon of them out and say, we're going to use it anyway. Wait, what? Why would they do that? I don't know, because here's what I used to do. When it came to samples, I would make,

say, say if the record got 13 songs, I would make 39 tapes of every record that I use. And we'll clear them through Regis at the time. It was, we got a verbal agreement,

but they didn't get a, what do you call them agreement? So they put the record out and he sued up. That's crazy. Wait, you would clear your own, like? I would set it up and then the office clears it. Like, I would have to record. Remember, at the time, it was not CDs, it was cassettes. Right.

And, I mean, just in general, like, why do you think they were so resistant to? Because Tyrone and them cursed them out. Oh, man. I mean, I don't want to say what they were. doing, but, you know. What was Flytai like? Because that's, you know, I mean, he was a key figure in the hip-hop

Pantheon that you don't, Pamphi on that you just don't. Flytai was great in the beginning. Okay. Great manager, great. But when the money and stuff came along, that's when... What was this connection? Like, why did y'all choose him? Was he Marley's guy or...

He was Magic's guy. We all came through Magic. That just reminds me something. BDP would routinely shout you out. I was cool with everybody. You were like, what's not favorite nations? Switzerland? Yeah, yeah.

The Pope. Wow. The Pope. Bery and Raleigh grew up together, so. So how would, how did your crew feel with you being neutral with both sides? And how do they feel when seeing you and, like, Like, you know, we ain't talking about you. We're just talking about magic.

They wouldn't talk because what happened with the magic situation, Kareas and him had a record called 1241. Success is the word. They came in and tried, because if you get your record played on magic, your record means a lot at the time. He was like the hip-hop Frankie Crocker. So they came in the studio and they let Christenum, let them hear the demo of 1241.

And the record wasn't good. And, you know, magic in them, you know, at that time, if anybody know from the 80s, that was get hard time, you're in the studio, and, you know, they laughed them out. So I guess they went, they left with a tail between these legs, and then they went and wrote South Bronx and all that. So the record was, I thought it was events.

I thought it was success of the word. Have you guys ever heard? I think we played it on the model yet. We did the wrong. It was we did advance. Oh, we did advance. Okay. Yeah, because I'm going to play like three seconds of success as the word.

So you can hear what got this. Pre-BDP. So there's a pink voice sample. It's D nice. Say what? Say what? This is a great radio record. We just be talking.

It's about 80 degrees outside Traffic on the GWV Wait Karas Orman's on some jazzy Jeff Freshman I'm gonna say the TV show intro That sounds like I think I can beat my time Every day I'm here to say

I love Rudy Pebbles You're going to live My rap will destroy you My rats will destroy you My rap will destroy you My rap is Say what you want to do Dining on my dot

In Paris to Wow A big dog Sucked fine wine champagne Don't pick No more music by the suckers No

No No one Now fella Magic in them listening to this Skee up and A day That's out there

My rats were destroyed I've had Marley Shan All of them there So listen to that. What would you do, Quest, if you was magic in them right there? Yeah, they got to go.

Immediately. Come on, son. Wow. I feel like Chris owes... But, yeah, he owes us... Magic just state some flowers for dissing him. Because that's what made him... That made him.

That's crazy. I've had this record for 10 years and never heard... This is the first time I'm listening to it. There's a real... reason for that. I can't unhear what I just heard. Yeah, like, I'm on a lot of drug medication right now from my, but did I hear Gilligan's Island?

Yeah, that was, okay, just checking. But at that time, everybody was doing it. Everybody was doing routines. Like, the fat boys in Forsyndee's did it to find effect. Do you remember that? The fat boys meet the Forsham D's? Yeah, that was. Oh, yeah.

Oh, no, that shit was a hit in Philly. That's Philly. That's Philly. Hey, I love Philly. Hey, hey, hey, hey, look to me. Philly gave me my start. I love Philly. Dancing on air, but that record wasn't the...

Yeah, I got to say, wait, the Siamada Garrett episode, I said that Facts of Life episode was the first thing I recorded on the VCR. Biz Marquis on Dancing on Air where Roxanne Chante was the second thing I recorded. I was doing the biz dance. Yeah, you were, you were. Past, going past your recording career, you've also managed to, you know, do crazy collaborations throughout your time. Yeah, I was going to say that you co-signing and sticking with the Beastie Boys,

especially when most people were kind of indifferent to the genius that is Paul's boutique and check your head and all that stuff. I was going to say that you co-signed from the heart and like that that made a difference to them and they always always always spoke of you in the highest regard when I were tour with them what was that what was that period like when you were clapping with them is what happened um I think they sued russell in them and won and I think it was at a time when I guess they were trying to at the time people would try to blackball people and at the time they I looked at them is brothers. I steal records from them.

They steal from me. You know, you know. You wouldn't trade records. Okay. When did you first meet them? I met, I remember D from, what's the TV show?

Pump it up? Pump it up. D. Balls. Okay. We went over there, went over to the studio. I mean, I knew a couple. I remember that episode?

That's the first time you met them? No, I think I met them a little bit before, but we wasn't hanging. Okay. You know what I mean? You know, you meet Yoda? Yeah, yeah. So, Boia Tribe

Wow And the Beechie Boys It was me and the Bici Boys versus Boiard Tribe We was playing basketball, right? Oh shit! Time out. Bill hit it.

And now another episode of what had happened was with this Marquis. All right, good. Now, them's some big They're some moaning. Bord is, bro. They big jailed niggas.

No, they're real big. So we're playing. So we playing. You know basketball. I'm fouling people, everything, right? So after we got done, we were playing Mark, Marky Mark that was down with him. We're playing piano. Right.

So, you know, Mark Wahlberg. Keyboard and money. It's not just Laet. It's a whole bunch of people thinking of same. Right, right. But you're the conduit for it. That's right. Right?

So he playing records from when I grew up. So he's playing like, jam my words of bull from. And I'm singing every single record that they play in, you know what I mean? Like, a mag in Rolebone! Stay away from me! Is that why you used it on Roadblock when you did the Rolelock? Yeah, yeah. So, look, look.

So I'm singing, blah, blah, blah. All of a sudden, he started playing Benny and the Jets. Dung, dunj, to do, to-d-da-da-da-t-t-t- I started singing it. Yo, we was there for like hours. do it again do it again then they put it out yeah I got that

I got that that would be one of my fire five I purchased like I purchased I purchased 20 copies of that grand royal

Wheaties magazine with your floppy record in it so and then that's why I started an okay player instead of here so what happened

was you know after that we just started just playing with stuff and I would just come out there hang with them, stay with them. And we just started doing just magical stuff. Like I would be at my house and I heard something because I used to like Ted Nugent. Yeah, I was going to say, how that Ted Nugent collaboration happened? Was that separate?

That was separate. I just, thank you, Jesus. I called them from the phone, right? And I said, Joe, I got something for you. It's like y'all getting out of jail or something, right? So I got something for you. And he said, play it. So I threw the record on.

And I said, the BT boy, they're coming home. They come in home. Yo, I played that for like eight hours. Yo, I said, this is for you. Yo, bitch, you want to give you this? And I said, no, come on, man, we're cool. Come on, no worry about it. After that, we started just doing different things.

Do bad, do, do. So then they just took me on tour with them. So it was like I was like, Billy Press. You were Billy Preston to their feasting. So, you know, and then they showed, for them, they showed me a lot of things I didn't know, how to conduct business, how to save for a rainy day, how to whatever, you know what I mean? And plus, I used to take them sneaker shopping. I took them to a store and Newark had every old school sneaker, but at the time, it was great, closed down, and every pro-cads, everything was a lot. A dollar?

Oh, my God. Wow. So their fashion shit comes from me. We backed up a big truck. The MPV? I used to bring them to me. I used to bring them to Jew man. I used to bring them in different spots.

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I felt like I got hit by it. a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. They said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends.

Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. During the cold chilling years, were you actually making money off the records, like royalties or was it mainly just tour money? I was making money off the records because, I was recording and since I used to record in-house,

you didn't really have to need that much money to use as a budget. Like I would get my budget, said my budget would be three or five hundred. I record in the house, I just got to pay my engineer. Pay cool V. Give him. Oh, in-house. I'm thinking of like a label studio.

Oh, yeah. In my house. So wait, so you recorded a lot of, going off in home equipment? Going off was like a lot of that was on four track. Marley did that. So for diabolical.

Every hour after I did it in my house. I'm about to say Muthford's vocal sounds like you were in a bathroom or I could tell like natural but natural reverb sound versus process reverb sound. Where did you record Mufford? In the house. What room? Your kitchen? No, down there

in the basement. I need a haircut. That was at the house too? That was great. Wow. All that was done at Coovey's house. Biz. And who was this engineer? Sorry. Doc. Doc Rodriguez. No, but at first, you know, at first, we had, we had Shane, but then we went to Paul C. I think what Paul C. Give me Paul C's stories. Paul C was one of the greatest engineers.

You know, you're a drummer. No, listen. I know how I'm a drummer, yes. But the thing is, you know how you listen to, he didn't listen to the pads. He would do it on the numbers and then hit the button and the record to be done. Really? He was at the best. I didn't even think you worked with, but I was going to ask you, did you know Paul C?

I skipped Latin Quarter stories. And I skipped Paul C. Can we do one last quarter? Can we do one last quarter? Paul C. You look stuck. No, no. Nearland.

Paul C. Engineered Kim. I traded Paul C. He worked on your records? Yeah. My second album. I did not know that. I did not know that.

He, he, um, he, um, he, um, I traded him. Cool his back albums. Sealed. There's a Funk Incorporated sealed copy of Cool's Back that's not reissued from. Not real. Damn. Whenever we, if I come out, I'll bring you one. I'll give you one.

Okay, so I get that and what else? But keep going, let's listen. The name in the B-box. So I traded him, I traded him cool his back albums, right? Right. And he traded me Hercules. Right. Okay, Hercules by Aaron Nevels.

Just translation, Steve. Paul C. was the U of the mid-80s to late 80s. But the cool white. that hung around a lot of black dudes. Nobody would bet into him on a $1,200. That collected... He sounds more talented than me, actually. Listen to me, nobody better to him.

Rest the peace? He was. Nobody bad. I mean... How did he pass away? When did he pass away? He passed away... I know he's on the back of...

Let the rhythm hit him. I think that's why... No, rest RIP. He... I think he passed away in 89. I think I was the last one he was recording with. something happened i mean i tell you off the yeah oh it's like some beef i thought it was like you know he didn't have no beef that okay it was just the point of people could went looking for

somebody oh man shit i'm paul wrong place long time we work at 30 rock we're safe you say yeah um man i did not know you work with the the great paul see yeah damn so he was he was was just like what was it about his production technique was the fact that he you're out of shop stuff put this way you know how I think we played at the house of blues yeah remember I was I was sick at the time we played the house of blue about I lost my voice yeah you remember when you did matty gras yeah you know how you have the funk he just had that funk he had was he a musician he was something he was everything son

he was everything so is it so I do see Paul see you see he saw Paul's professor he taught Paul's professor yeah policy production

that's what's his last name is coming Paul McCastey Paul McCastey okay incredible son does he got any other stories like I feel like

there's go ahead ask whatever you want and now tales from the Latin Quarter we have been in the Latin Quarter we have been in the Latin Quarter being in the Latin quarter.

Everybody comes on this show delivers a Latin quarter story. You might as well, Biz. What's your best one? Best one, Latin Quarter. KRS Battle of Melly Mell. Everyone has their version of the story. What happened from like five different venues?

Someone talked about this being outside. No, no, no, no, no. My best story is cash money coming to Latin quarter. And, and, um... Killing it? I'm going to tell you what happened. Paradise has this

Paradise has this Fila suit on. He had, I think he wore for like 17 consecutive weeks. And he had a big-ass silver rope, right? You don't need to be able to wear it silver. You know, he had a big-ass silver rope, right? So, check it out. So he said, yo, this guy says he's just as,

he's better than Jazzy Jeff and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Here is cash money. Oh, he set it up like that. He set him up like five heart beats. Five hard beats. And they're better than their temptation. That's not something. Put together.

Put together. We shall see. So they booing. So they booing, they booing, they booing, they bowing cash money at first. No, this cash money by himself. What? So Cass started with a piece of president. He started doing top billing.

And what just, I'm looking like, so after a while, I already knew cash money because I was not hanging in Philly. Yo, he burnted it down so bad. Everybody wanted to hang with him out. He was like that kid on the block that the only kid that had HBO or Atari and you'd be asking your mother

because you stay over there? Can I go over with Derek House? And he'd be. burn it down. That was one of my best. And another story was when people used to get robbed. Okay.

Thank you for bringing this up. You're going to do it, are you? What is your Haitian Jack story? Hattson Jack was cool with me. But I hear that the folklore for those who don't know, I hear that Haitian Jack

was the guy that has the most collection of hip-hop, gold chains. No, it's a lot of them like that. You have Haitian Jack. But I heard Haitian Jack has like, you know, he has Rock Kimstein. There's like Rick Shane. And I heard that he had.

I don't know about Raq Kim Jim. I'm about to say. That's a, yeah. Okay. And Rick ain't no, Rick will bust you. We know this. I was there when that shootout happened in the Bronx at the castle. Hit me.

Word is born. And you can ask him. Wait, what happened? Here's what happened. They were outside of the castle. I think he had an argument with somebody. What's the castle? The castle?

No, the castle was a club in the Bronx. Okay. And I think he was with some guys, and I don't know if they were trying to rob them or whatever, but they were just shooting, like, across from car to car. So wait, you're in this era, and, you know, you just casual him into the gum. Like, at no point, is it just with you?

is it like, I don't know, they're having a shootout? Or is it just like... No, I ran. I'm like... Actually, to be honest, would you, Biz, when you on the show, I actually came up with the sound effect just for you? Or... There you go.

There you go. You, I remember what? They were busing, like, pow, pow. My man Ralphie got shot in his eye. Dang. He's like this now on. Damn. How?

They had a lot of, they had a lot of good fights at Latin quarters, though. They had this dude coming from Connecticut. He was muscle pals. Had a tank top of him. He's going to start dancing with dudes from Brooklyn girls and everything. He's not worried. All of a sudden, that record came on. Brother and sister.

They got on them on the time. Pat, Ben, they got on them like rope. They got them like bees. So they got them like bees. I wonder how much money could you get? One of them probably got one piece of them.

So you say that whenever Rebel out of Poole. Whatever the song of the month on. You knew it was time to. Funky by Ultramanetit? Wow. Really? What about a Gold Stetser?

Yeah, what about Ghost Setser? Oh, Go Stets to them three rats? So you just knew instantly that when those records come on, like, Tuck your chain. Yeah. Done. But I just sang with them. Oh.

I used to get them in. Oh. I used to get them in. So your approach was befriend them or else. But I was friends with them before records, so. Oh, got you. So I'm with them. I used to borrow money off them and stuff.

Like the real 50 cent, the real 50 cent. The real 50 cent from Brooklyn? She's stick up Amar card in the daytime and all that. I mean. And you weren't afraid if we're friends. I mean, you got people around your way that's gangster. I have no friends. No, I'm playing.

You don't have people that's gangster that you know. Lai is, yes. I put it on the show. It's me. Yeah. Lai is the gangster. You want war. No, I'm talking about these are real gangsters.

I know. He's just five-batsky. Not people with their toes out, real gangsters. Better to kick you in your... With Timberlands and stuff on. These are real gangsters. Supreme, all of them are real gangsters. Wow, man.

Steel toes. So, wait, can I ask, how many dapper-dan outfits do you have? And what was the... Copping a... A Dapper Dan outfit. How long would it take from measuring to here's your outfit? Well, I used to hang with DAP, so about half. Half a year, half an hour.

Really? Wait, what? What? From the B. I'm sorry. I can bring them. I can call him right now. No, I have a Dapper Damn jacket.

He made me one. But it takes a half hour. I'm thinking, like. No, you said measurement. No, but like how long would it take from like when you make the same? Yeah, how long would it take from to make it? By day or two. Wow.

Because even Googling you, you have some ill dapper-dan stuff. I've never seen nobody. You know we got to say who dapper-dan is. He used to hook me up. I used to sit out there. I was out there when Mitch Green got punched by Mike Tyson. Mitch Blood Green. You were there.

I was sitting right there with my, what dapping him? You were there when sitting with him. It was early in the morning. Bow. So, for our Laiites out there that don't know. Come on, man, you know I know who Dapper Dan is. No, all right. Who's Dapper D'A and Lai?

The man who designed all the outfits with the MCM to Fendi and that M-CM and Fendi ain't know about. Yes. For everybody. See, he used to do me pajamas and everything. Yeah, I've seen. I feel like you have more crazier Dapper Dan stuff than ever. Where is that stuff now? Is it in storage?

It's next to that B machine that you can't see. Where do you keep your... Where do you keep your artifacts? Who preserves your artifacts? I play with them most of the time. Oh, so you actually collect your artifacts. Yeah, I touch my joints. And I play.

So wait, the artifacts... All my Johnny Lightning cars, my AFX, everything. But does that in a different place than the throwbacks? Like, because you've got different collections of different things. I got my house next to me, and then I got my house. This is Merlin. Goals. When did you move to Merlin?

94. 95. Wait, what part of, not Baltimore? No. Hell no. I mean, I love Baltimore, but buoy. Okay. I have a question, Biz.

It's a little off topic, but... Every topic's on topic. What's your favorite record store in New York? And also, like, what's your favorite record store in the world? There's like a couple. They used to have a store in Phoenix called Prickley Pair. Okay. And they had A1 record finders in L.A.

Okay. When it was going, large amount. For the amount of records you own, is it now just to the point where it's like, I own them? Or for you, is it like, yo, I'm going to make some of the funkies records ever, or is it trade off to something else?

Or is it... You're furniture. You just... want to live and listen to is like you like do you utilize the stuff you collect now i'll admit maybe in the past 10 years i've just been collecting and collected and hoarding without even it's to the point now where i won't even open the boxes that get shipped to my my spots because i look through some stuff to make sure they're in there you know you might buy something and it's from across the season you get it and might be a brick in there

I open them and make sure things is in there. But I DJ with my 45, so, you know what I mean? So are you more infatuated with the record or the music that's on the record? You know what I mean? Like, do you collect the records because of your love for all the, you know, the artwork and this, that, and the other thing, or the music that's on it? The sound. You know, if you buy an album that you've never seen, like, do you got white orange? No.

What's white orange? It's an album. Look it up. Laiae is loving this shit. Look it up. I just like how to it. I mean, I could have told you from the gate Laiaaia that he will name like 20 things that I will automatically have to know to. Look, you're looking at it right now.

You know I'm not mad. It should be a Swedish jazz fusion group. Yeah, it should be a white orange on it. What is it? A sweetest jazz fusion group. Maybe I have. Let me see the cover. Let me see the cover.

It's a white orange. It's the name. It's a white orange, yeah. I do. I never seen that shit. What year is that from? 1980. All right, so what about it?

I just like the way they play on it. They play different than anybody else. The sounds is incredible. Hook me up, Biz. I got you, huh? I'm dropping jewels. I'm giving you names. You're real, y'all.

Nobody never know what that is. So at this point, you got every record. that you want though, right? Is it one that you? Yeah, I mean, right now, I mean, you can never have every record you want, but I'm close. I'm like 99.9%.

What are you looking for that you do not have? Like, what are you, what's your holy grail? I got to get this record. It's a 45. It's the Sony Walkman commercial. On 45? What?

I got one. I'm just looking for another one. If you notice, this is probably the episode of Questless Supreme that I've done the least sound effects on it. It just stumps even me to even... What are you looking for? I don't know what I'm looking for. You know, Biz, I'd be honest with you, I think I'm satisfied.

You guys are slowly trying to lure me into this 45 hole that I get... I think I understand it. but if I'm honest, I think I'm trying to resist it. What's her name's trying to pull me into it? Natasha. Yeah, Natasha Diggs is really trying to lure me into this 45 sunken place that I don't know if I, because the thing is that when I commit to, when I commit to collecting, I go super hard on it. and I think I'm at the place now where I'm like, I'm satisfied.

But the thing is. Now I do, I do... Multi-tracks. Multi-tracks. We all did, remember? Shut up, business. That's why I'm going to talk to you at this over. No, I'm not.

I just want mixes. I don't care about all that stuff. Look, I'm just saying that... What are he trying to get? So is a trade going on that we don't know about? come on we always the thing is ever since I've known Quest we always talked about this

here's the thing here's the thing what one item can you talk about that you know that you're not allowed to talk about as far as you owning something is this a trade going on that

doesn't make any fucking tens it all I mean I see that's a thing you I feel like there's basic level basic pedestrian level collecting like fun funky drummer, 45, or something real super obvious.

That's where I am. Then there's... Are you talking about multi-trax? You're talking about records? No, no, no, I'm just saying in general. Like, people have general pedestrian collector stuff that's, you know, fair, you know, everyone has. And then there's advanced level stuff that, you know, that you might have to go to this particular country to get this specific mix. and then there's the third rail level of like

you know you have some shit that someone gave you in secret but you can't share it with the world ever and it's like Frankie Beverly you got that what Frankie Beverly record Modi drag say what?

What? What? What? Which joint? Which joints? Of course he's going to his head before I let go. Multi-track. I did the wedding for his sons.

The black national anthem. But does he own his own multi-tracks? BT Boys was at Capitol. Ah. Am I making it something for something? In the 90s. I mean, but that's another story for another thing. But keep going.

Another thing I got from somebody. It's between us. Or wait, we're on the air. I know you just out here. They can't find it. Blues and Pants, 45. Really? No such thing.

I'll show you the picture. Blues and Pants, what's that? No, what is this? Wait, what country? What country? It don't matter what country. Is it the record? It's not an American pressing. It don't matter.

It's the record. Okay. Blues and Pants, what is this? This is the J.E. The James Brown. Ding-Ding-Din-Din-Din-D. Okay, got you. It was nine minutes.

I never knew there was a single. Damn. I show you. Quartz, you still got the same number, right? I'll send you a picture. Hey, Biz. Ladies and gentlemen, this was another episode. I'll send you a picture.

Huh? Do you have like every CTI record? He will say yes. I got a lot of them. Yeah, I got most of them. There's one that's sort of the Holy Grail CTI record that I'm trying to find. He's going to say yes. You're never going to see it. It's called Stonebone by J&K.

Jay J J J J J J J J J is not I got to my stuff I think I got it The two trombone player guys It's like yeah I think it was Japan only or something like that You got Dune David Matthews I got Dune

You got Dune? Yeah You got Bob Jays 1-45 You got Wisslero on one side And Nautilus Yeah I have a tenet I have a tenet of Nautilus Like not a 12 inch

But a tenet You know the tenets is here I think I have a tenets of Nautilus. For those listening, this is like the okay corral standoff of record plastic scenes. Like, they're staring.

There's so much, it's amazing. I got another one. I got another one. Chalon. Real. Real. Real. I've yet to brag on anything I have.

I'm just saying. Money bars you anything right now, but Ashley Droach clip. A real real? Real. Real label. Oh. Chuck Brown.

I got it from. Chuck Brown used to live down a block for me before he passed. He gave you an original. Original. Like a white label radio. No, non-sussex record? None. No, that's sauce.

I have asked these roads, Roots clip when they were on a... Source. No. You bet you had $1,000 dollars in the sauce. No, you're right. Bustle loses on that. I made a mistake.

I made a mistake. It's on Sussex. Yeah. That's Clarence Avon's label. Yes. I don't have the 45. I don't believe it. All right.

You know, I'm so exhausted. I know. You're just laid in full break. Just so. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I got even better.

I got to see even better. I got to even better. You like it too on a real 12 inch and 45. What? Come on. You like it too. Fuckerdelic. No, no.

I know. Look it up. I know. Look it up right now. Look it up right now. This is I'm, yo. You like it too. Straight up.

Look up for you. It's got a picture come. For those that are listening and hearing me stumped and all this shit, it's awesome. All this krypton night. I'm gonna tell you all. Look it up. Let me tell y'all something. 12 inch.

I gotta get my powers back. From Germany. We're gonna do round two of this. This is how you get your power back? This is how I'm going to get my power back. Hold on, hold up. Are I making it up? No, it's a real.

It's from Germany. Come on, son. Okay. Biz, what's this? Oh, that's easy. I'm going to make a real fucking for you. All right. Rbeat war.

And I got 45. Come on, keep going. Next. That's our misdemeanor. Foster Silver's. Mr. Silver's. Huh?

I know what it is, but I can. Uh. Um, come in, man. Oh, that's funky. That's funky. All right. That's, if there's a will, there's a way by Don Covey. Okay.

All right. Next. Oh, that's, yeah. Okay. I forgot that. Nope. Ah, see? See, I first I was going to pick the.

you thought I was going to do. And I was like, no, no, you got me with that. So let me find that same ad live in another song. Is it singing in the morning? Yeah. Sing it in the morning. That's funky. Oh, I play a sing in the morning.

All right, I'll do one humble brag. Oh, wait. And now a humble brag. Wait, is what I think it is? Basically, it's course most supreme. True to it. No, I'm not even going to play for it. Okay.

Biz. Do you have? Funky worm stems. Do I got funky worm? I think I do. The stems, motherfucker. You're talking about the protein, right? The stems.

I think I got funky, Ohio players. Yes. I think I do. I got a look. I think I do. I think that's, everybody got that, I think. Oh, salt. I'm talking about the real heavy hit it.

I think Beasie Boys had that first. It's like a salt. salt mine. You got to have a special relationship with Armine and his son. Look, look. Oh, wow. No, not the 45

with the with the cut and paper. And that's funky, defensive. Yes, you're talking about the rear 45 where they put you try to play smart on time. I hate when they do that.

Wait, one of the, one of the side note, a dilla side note. One of the one of the greatest games of, of who's on first between Dylan and I was when we were clearing the samples for the light. Oh, he tried to say funky worms. He's like, and funky worm by the hard players.

I'm like, that's not funky worm. He's like, yeah, it's funky worm. I'm like, that's not funky worm. You're getting to be too smart. No, they got two dip. Both of them got the break on the, right, but. Dylan didn't realize that at the time.

So when I finally got to Detroit and he played the 45 for me, like we were short of like you I bet you $500 and then he played it I was like holy shit Yeah they got them both of them got them Yeah right so Detroit Emeralds and uh

Ohio players yeah But that's the same sound and stuff But I still consider that you know Detroit Emeralds and not you know Nah They're two different records Yeah but they took it from Detroit Emeralds I don't know who they took it from

I know it's on the record But when you listen to Detroit Emerald's break It still stays that way Yeah yeah yeah They just took it Anyway, this is your last one. Oh, man. Easy.

Oh, really? All you motherfuckers' experts now? You got an opinion on paper? I didn't say shit. That's LaRelle. Mello right on. Yeah, that's a distinctive bass sound. We play that through, because I think I thought I had known that.

Only one didn't say anything. Next. Yes, this is, I'm sorry. I'll play the... I tell you. Mellow by Lero. I tell you row. Next.

Is that? Hey, no. and harness in it. Sound like a third, yeah. Oh, wow. More Stevens than his orchestra from, it's called The Long Wait. I think it's part of the Hawaii 50

soundtrack. All right, there's your last one, Biz. Oh, I know that that is. I got the record. I got the 45. No, I got the albums. I got the albums. I got the albums.

Da-na-na-na-da-da-da-da-da-da. Yeah, Jay-Z used it. Eddie Henderson inside you. Is there any question of, I don't know, we could just play who got what. It's real fun to watch. Did we learn anything? Wait, let's just fast forward to the end.

Fonte, what did you learn today? Man, biz. Because if we didn't learn something, we got to ask biz, we got to do a second go around. Man, what did you learn? It's like, dude, like, he's like the master collector of, like, everybody. And, like, any record that you want to know is like he got.

I feel like there's a question that we're forgetting the ask. It's going to be like Captain Obvious once. Oh, okay. Found it. I forgot to ask about Yo Gavibaba. What did you learn? I learned that I could listen to Big Murphy Talk for many hours. I'm totally fine with that.

Matter of fact, while we're at it, give us another. But let's talk about children's music. I know about that. And so does he. So, yeah, how did you get involved with the Yogaba Gava Gabba camp? What happened with Yo Gabba Gabba. They asked me to come in the do the dancing dance. But the night before I DJed in LA, and you know you're standing up for like five, six hours.

You tired. So I was lazy. And so I just said, yo, Christian, why don't I make a, well, I don't teach the kids how to do the beatbox. I named me Biz Beter today and then we did it. They put that on the pilot and then they got an overwhelming response and they put it. They put me down. That's so dope. Are they still actively shooting stuff for it?

They arguing with that works. You mentioned earlier about, like, you'll gabba-gabbing getting you all the way, well, not getting you to Japan, but getting you to the techniques to get the special turntable. Yeah, because anybody wants to make their kids happy. That's what I was going to ask you,

how many opportunities has that opened up for you in a different ways you never would have thought being on a kid show opened up this door? You got me to turn tables. I think she meant more career goals and kids knowing you not just you choir in the terms I always play with kids. I love kids anywhere.

Yeah, I always, even just sitting there listening to you, talk like you're a walking, like, cartoon character. Is that, have you ever done any of that or had any opportunities to do some stuff? I did SpongeBob once. I did a couple of things. But, you know, I'm musically driven, so.

What was it like doing? Men and Breck. I saw the premiere screening of it, and I'll say that you got a bigger response to Michael Jackson. No. No. He did. Because when Michael Jackson was shocked, like, oh, he in it? But when they saw

biz, like the whole audience was, whoo, like, you know, like that. What happened was Jeff wasn't going out with Will at the time. And he was doing all of them albums and Hidden Beach. Right, right. So Jeff said, Jeff

and Will said, yo, why don't you be the DJ? So I started going out with Will. So I was hanging around. I hung around the set one time. And Tommy Lee and said, yo, why don't you get your man to do the beatbox and y'all talk together and that'll be a scene?

Wow. I said, thank you, Will. They're the greatest. Jeff is the greatest. Yes, he is. I love him. That's my brother. I'll take a bullet from him.

What's the craziest evolution you've seen? Because a lot of the folks that you came up with, just like you have evolved crazy, like, but like looking at Will, Jeff, looking at so many Latifah, like, who have you looked at and went like, shit? I just would have never, but just dope. Flash. Mm-hmm. Just that, I mean, just think of the records he found. Would hip-hop be like that if he wasn't there?

True. Not even, I mean, Bambada is Bambata. theater's theater but flash so flash is at the top of the pinnacle for you as far as flash and the L brothers just think about it we all eating I mean you you play well I'm just saying I'm just saying wait you mentioned the L brothers what crew from back of the day who I mean who's the ultra-manetic from back of the day that are like pioneers that will not get the due credit. I'm talking from the original era.

You always hear about, hey, Colchrist brothers and the Funky 4 Plus 1. Like, they always named these crew, but who's that one crew that had, like, ill routines, ill techniques that didn't get their just due? I mean, even though they had records, Mastodon, Crash Crew. They had boilers, but everybody forgot them.

First one I'm ever been. I hate that. I'm not a real MC to be like first round I'm ever real, all my shit is, first one I'm ever bit. You know, that pull into the bomb joint. Yo.

That first speed rap. Talk about it. I can think about it. Oh, yeah. The crash is three, too. Yeah. It's just the point of, I'm just happy to still be alive

to watch what's going on. Come on. You're the roots. Think about it. But you biz. No, no, no. Listen, what I'm just to get right to tell you. You DJed at the White House.

Listen to it. I mean, forget me. Later. Yeah, the first time, wait, this is a funny story for you. So we're at, I forget what event it was that was, no, no, no, the first time I went to the White House correspondence dinner. Oh, yeah. And I was begging to be the DJ. And they were like, no, we can't because, you know, we got biz.

And I was like, come on, man. So, Biz is spinning, and he puts this record on I never heard before. And as a DJ, and I'm looking, and suddenly he puts this record on. And I swear it, it's like, you remember the scene? I'm giving an old reference, but this is the only way I could describe it. You know, it was like 3 o'clock, and the brown horn it comes on and like, all of them. But you know you remember, Fonte? I'll explain it.

Everyone just stopped what they were doing and instantly ran to the, dance floor to start doing the wobble. Oh, wow. At the White House correspondent's different. But it was like Rachel Maddow. It was like, the white wobble. Like, no, it was like white people doing, like stop. And I didn't know it.

Even like Toray was like leading this line. And I never heard the record before. I'm like, wait, what's this? And Vine Bizz looking like, you never heard of the wobble? Oh, they were playing the wobble and you had never heard of the, okay. Right. It was like maybe, maybe two months old and I just wasn't on it, but

I gave you that. I was just like... But Rachel Maddow knew it. Yeah. And I was like, well, is this some D.C. shit or whatever, because at the rate where Torre knew the dance, and I was like, damn, I'm fucked up in the game. Yeah, the wobble, it goes like every fan reunion, every wedding

reception. I still don't know how to think you. A cupid shuffle, yeah, those line dance, like black folk, love line nests. I mean, you're right. You start south and Midwest. Yeah. You might not have gotten to be all. But I was just throwing off that the attendees of the White House correspondence.

Like not only knew the dance, but like, stop. Couldn't wait to do the day. Everything. It's like, oh, President Obama so nice to be. Oh, I'll be our back. That was a crazy old moment. You cut off business compliment. I just want everybody to know this is what question.

I hate compliments. He didn't want to hear that. I hate compliments. I'll take a compliment. Steve, what did you learn today, Steve? What did you learn? I learned that he's better than you. He's pretty much.

A lot of ways. Sugar Steve for the way. Oh, shit. No, I have one more question, though. There's this CTI put out a briefcase. I got the briefcase. It looked like a lot. There you are.

Wait. The drugs are off. Hold on a second. You healed Steve. Wait, ladies and gentlemen, Steve, Steve has been, he said, under medical care. It looked like Louis Vuitton. Steve? Yeah.

You have that? Steve. You have, wait, did you say two? Two or true? What are you saying? True. You got two. Who knows?

The Bob James joint came in that too, right? Yeah. Okay, I've been scouring, like. Even I couldn't find that for Stephen. I've been looking for that. Yeah, it's very, like, it's very. First of all, not a lot of people know about it. And second of all, they must have made like 10 of them or some shit

because they're not around. Like, you can't find... You gotta think we had 2017, a lot of things ain't going to be around. Yeah, but you can't. It's not... You got to think... If you were shopping for records in the 80s and the 90s, everything was around.

This came out in 1980 is when they put that... But it was a promotional thing where, like, you bought it from... I stole it from... I stole it from PLS. Wow. Because they had WWRL MBLS up there. So what is that? They said, we don't care about that.

Oh, you are so not black. WBLS? I love it. You just took it from a radio station? Both of them from the radio station. Steve hasn't been as excited ever. You know what? And it's funny, there's always,

in every hip-hop producer's story, there's always... Hold on a second. Can we trade something? Here's my phone. Take this headphone station. His first born. Would you take it?

There's always a radio station that you've rated. All them colleges that the week have played always has that one intern that I was super nice to that was just like, I don't care about these records. You can go through them. And the best time to get the records was 88, 89. Because it was the transition period to the CDs. I was like, yeah. Business sucking his thumb. Y'all should know that business sucking his thumb.

Well, just let's, look, I mean, Steve's been in quite a pain for this episode, but the second, or his whole life. The second that Biz Mick mentioned that briefcase, it was like Lazarus. Like, you can't. You know, you remember another old reference when Martin McFly came to life once his parents kissed at the champion of the sea dance? Earth Angel. Earth Angel. Oh, man. And he, whee!

That was Steve. And he started playing. That was Steve. All right, Boss Bill, what did you learn? You learned that this episode is going a half hour overboard. I took too long? No, no, no, no, no. I kind of want to co-sign what Steve said.

I've been shopping for records with you. I think I want to go with biz next. Okay. Yeah, that's the case. Wow, that's dope. Do you still go record, shout? Let me see it. Nah.

Exactly. It's... He said he got 99.9% of everything that he wants. Okay. Come on, Quest. Even if you come out and make a case to DJ Wood, what records you really looking for that you got a fire right now? I'm telling you, Biz, I think I'm satisfied.

I'm good. I'm good. Yes, I have about 100,000 records, and I'll say that of those 100,000, I know that at least a good 900 are, like, ultra-special. I mean, the rest is like, you know, do I really need all the high, energy records from Motown?

No. How many times he's a wickering? Do I need, like, dance all night by the barge? No. On people, do you got a show enough? I know I have every people record ever made. You got show enough? Show enough he don't.

I mean, I'm not a sweet slot, yeah. Oh, sweet sign on the wicket. You got the 45? Oh, show enough. I love you. You got the 45? The Justin Timberlake joint. Do you have the 45?

I own it. How do I own it? You own the 45? I do not have a 45. I think, no, there's not a record. I know I own show enough. Once Justin told me that record for... Suit and tie.

Suit and tie. I knew the record when I heard it. Yes. I own that record. I don't know which configuration I own it. I got 2.45. But I know Alan leads. One is the red people.

One is the purple people. There's a white. There's a white label. Yeah. Yeah, I do own. There's a red one. Thank you, Jesus. Did I just tell you?

I read and up, they got a purple. Sorry, I didn't hear the red one. Yes. No, I have a white label, show enough. But also, you know, I cheat because I know Alan Leet, so literally, he's just giving me all this James Brown over. Do you got champ, you know, champ. Mohawks. I have that on album.

I don't have a 45. You got on Atlantic Records? What? Ney. No. Steve mad at you there Steve is still mad We are all very

Very disappointed Look, motherfucker All right, go right, lie here What you learn, man? I learned that a mind Has never been polluted by weed Is a powerful thing And biz, your memory is like

Fucking remarkable I hope There's no book biz They want me to do a book But what's wrong? I'm still singing, so You know, ain't no unsung yet No, you ain't got to do an unsung

You know, write a book. People a lot, Russell write books like every two years. You got to think, you got to think, Go ahead. Quest, you got to think, back then,

if you get money and you go to a record shop and you get them a 50, they let you look through anything. Take you to the back. They take you to the back. Go underneath. Okay, your way.

I knew Val Shively. You know that, right? Fucking real. Yes. He's letting me go in the basement, go to his house and everything. I would never get past. the letter D.

Vowseively is the guy that was like mean to us, and then he found out who my dad was and was like, welcome to my store. Off for me and job. Now I don't want it. All right. So, all right, this is what I'm proposing. And this is what you don't know, Biz.

All right. So I'll say for the last four months, me and practically all the heavyweights in hip-hop production from Pete to Primo to... Yeah. Jay Cole to Ninth Wonder to Just Blaze to, to, uh, forgetting people. Nats. Nottes to, uh, Virginia.

DJ Harrison. DJ Harrison, the Stroh, Elliot, everyone, Jeremy Ellis, everybody's in this, this tip, Swiss beats. All right. So I started a thread and we dubbed ourselves. We're like a brotherhood of 19 cats and we dubbed ourselves, Ask Vaughn. Get out of here. No,

literally the... Rashide in it, too? Yes, Rashide's in it. When we can catch him. Yes. Yes. Oh, peanut butter wolf is talking right now.

Literally, I'm worn with like all 22 of them with Ask Juan. Wait, okay. He says, oh, wow. Okay. This is the last question I'm going to ask you.

I'm proposing a special biz episode of of, of, of, of, Love Supreme. Okay. And which, if I can coordinate the 12 Ask Juan

East Coast members to do the show where they literally grill biz on all the stories. Because they're still like, and I'm telling them like, yo, he really does that.

It's 45. Okay, here's your final story, biz. You have to ask biz. This is from Rashad Smith. What? What? Give me the phone.

Give me the phone. I know the story. I know the story. I know the story. I know the story. I know this story. Wait, let me read it. You got to actually read it, though. Yes.

Motherfuck, I'm laughing. I can't have a sense of humor on my own goddamn radio show. All right. Rashad Smith says you have to ask Biz about the Luther Vandros' Madison Square Garden story on how he got a beep from Luther to come to beepbox for him on stage at the garden. True or false? True. That was when I had Justin Frank out.

And we was both represented by Burt Badell. Ah, okay. So Burt Badell was the one that asked me, yo, go get up there, you know, if you get up there with Luthor, you know you get some of his fans and this and that. What did you do? Do you all do something together?

I just did the Puck. I just want to get into the cast and Bert Fadell. Ladies and gentlemen, you look that up. You can't look at it. I'm saying? Look and see if that B and Luther Vandros was both represented by Bert Padell. I, or you look at it right now?

No, he was in accounting, right? Burke was in account, yeah. Okay. But if I can organize an ask Juan session. Yeah, I'd take them all on. I want to see you pull off this. I got this. You got to get them on video saying that so you can put in the group.

I would take all of y'all motherfuckers And I put them on I get in the group too Oh my God Oh you ain't got to work to He's got to work to get in the group I mean You can only hold 22 people

And we accidentally had to boot Diplow Off the Accidentally Accidentally Accidentally I suppose Anyway All right so Biz

I have you a video right now You So you're saying to the Ask Ron crew That they're allowed to come And grill you Whenever you want too. I'm gonna grill your back too.

No offense. Leave your feelings at the door. I'll tell you you got on the hip-hop starter kit. And Rashid, I know I got stories about hip too. And I remember when Q-Tip used to be in high school at Mary Bertram, I know all that. It's going to be like the battle oil scene. Ladies and gentlemen, this is a very little. this is a very special, special, special, special, ah, special episode of Biz Marquis,

Questlove Supreme, only on Pandora. On behalf of Sugar Steve and Fantigolo and Boss Bill. And you're going to have Biz on Sesame Street one day? Yeah. Fuck yeah. He's the new Joe Raposo right there. Yes. I was going to go on Sesame Street.

Oh, man. This is part of our new idea. Our five people I did. This is. All right. Biz is down. And I'm a paid bill. I'm not paid.

I don't pay. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, you're paid. Yeah. Well, paid bill. And I'm paid bill. And Mark Rehality. Hey, did that do I?

Yes, you did awesome, biz. Thank you. You did awesome. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Thank you.

Yes, you did awesome. And just to watch this away from our sentence. I'll just do one. I don't believe. Lee. Anyway, I'm playing Vince. I'm playing. Thank you, man.

I appreciate you. All right. Quest Love Supreme is a production of IHeart Radio. This classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora. For more podcasts from IHartRadio, visit the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. A win is a win.

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