The Questlove Show - Black Music Month QLS Classic: Lady B

Episode Date: June 13, 2024

Black Music Month continues with a 2021 Questlove Supreme episode that put the spotlight on a woman whose name should be a part of everyone's Hip Hop matriculation. Lady B has put in her work for the culture from being the first DJ to play Rap on FM radio, to being the first female MC to record on wax and not only did she put Philadelphia on to Hip Hop, she made it a top five market for the genre! This is a rare sit down with a true foremother of Hip Hop, the Legendary Lady B.... without a doubt!    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Every day this June, we are running a different episode from the QLS archives to honor the tradition and intent of Black Music Month. This week, we are focusing on some of the great hip-hop conversations in the QLS catalog. Our leader, Questlove, has a new book out called Hip Hop is History. Check it out at Questlove.com. Today, we are airing an interview with Philadelphia's own Lady B, who is not only a pioneering force at radio, but is also one of the first hip-hop artists to release a record. Ready? Not a bad idea. Yeah.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Quest Love Supreme. I will say that this is a highly personal episode for myself. In my professional. This is Eddie and Arsenio territory right here. Yes. No, no, it's not going to be Eddie and Arsen. I will say that in my 30 plus years of being in this business, I never thought the day

would occur that my first interview with the person who literally introduced me to hip hop would ever happen on my platform. I mean, that's how often I dreamed of, like, being on her show. I mean, even when I was listening to her, I didn't have dreams of being in hip-hop,

but literally what, uh, what you know, what Greg Mack means to KDAY in LA, what Mr. Magic means for New York City, I will say that this, this young lady, was not only crucial for the tri-state area, but in hip-hop in general, because, I mean, at one point, Philly was the second largest hip-hop market in the first formative years of hip-hop being on wax

between like 79 and 89. Yeah, just any major first, you know, the first time I heard cutting and scratch it on Grandmaster Flash on the Wheels of Steel, the first time I heard pumpkin play a breakbeat on on Spoony G's love rap. The first time I heard Suckerman Cs, the first time I heard anything by the Jews crew,

the first time, God, the moment I first heard rebel without a pause, it's this young lady on our show. For all you roots officionados, of course, her voice might be familiar to you. If you hold our Things Fall Apart album, Year and Dears, she's on the without a doubt. Without a doubt. Without a doubt. That was the best session ever. She is the first female to be on wax as an MC, a pioneering DJ.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the person who introduced me to hip-hop. Lady B. What? Oh, I feel so touched by that. But you know what? As I approach, you know, because as I approached this 40th anniversary, I've been doing a lot of reflecting. Right. And just getting in my spirit with God and just thanking him for being the person who did what you just said that I did,

to introduce a genre of music that little had faith in. So a lot of political crap connected to that to get it on the radio. Oh, and you're right. I know you say that Philadelphia is the second. No, I want to tell the facts. And here's another thing I decided to do for my 40th. I'm usually very humble. Mm-hmm.

Not no moment. Come on. Bring it out. When people say you're a pioneer, you're an icon, you're this, you're at this, you're at that. And then I started thinking just the other day, well, ah, I swear to God. I was like, you know what, onus, is the onus because you did it. And too many times the brothers get all the accolades and we as sisters,

we don't. So yeah, I'm going to put my fists in the air and I'm going to say it with my chest out. That it wasn't just as far as, you know, people always say New York was first and in Philly was the second biggest market. First of all, all due respect to the only man who shared my same story. And that is Mr. Magic in New York. I missed his brother so much. But he's the only one that is parallel with my life and what we did. And to fight to get it on FM radio in Philadelphia, you have to understand. that I was the first one to play it on FM radio.

What Magic and I were doing was a college thing. I kicked y'all off on AM. And then when Power 99 put us on FM, that made stations across the country follow suit. Yes. You understand what I'm saying? Like, I started this avalanche of a culture. And I'm so proud to say that I did that.

And when I think back on just how much frigging fun I had doing that, I am so full of joy right about now. I'm doing a lot of reflecting, and I'm like, wow, I did that. I knew these millionaires when they were broke and had roaches in their apartment. And I'm so glad to have helped them follow their dreams and do what they do. It's amazing. It's, you have, no, you have no idea how many brick walls I came across people. Oh, my God.

Nobody. Wait, don't give it away. I'm going to ask you these questions. Okay. We got time. This, look, this ain't a radio show. Let me go back and calm down. I'm sorry.

Let me just say, let me just say that, you know, you revealed how many decades around the sun that you were before we went on air. And I have to say that you were still a timeless teenager to me. Like you literally have not, like this is when she was not. 19 as as on-air personality. This is the same one, like, nothing has changed. Nothing has changed at all. You know, this is, I feel like this is my first real conversation with you. Like, we've seen each other in passing and whatnot.

We do. It is. I think it is. But I'm glad to finally get a moment to, to wrap you, because I have so many questions about my hometown and what, you know, what I didn't get to experience that, you know, you also helped pave the way. First of all, are you from Philadelphia? Born and raised, West Philadelphia. What part were you born in?

Well, I was born. My family, a mother owned a bar on Woodland Avenue in Southwest. Your mom owned the Alley. Alley's Alley, yes. That's your mom's doing? That was my mother's spot. I grew up in that point. For 49th in Woodland Avenue.

That is correct. Allie's Allie is my grandmother's name, Allie, yes. Yes. Yo, because I used to catch the 36 trolley. That's exactly where he was at the trolley barn. Yeah. Yeah. Wow.

Okay. It was my mom's bar and then she raised us in Winfield. So I was literally, I literally grew up from kindergarten right two blocks and where it will in his mom lived. Wow. Talk about your people real quick because you have an interesting background like ethnically. My Malaysian African American connection. Yes. We like to call it.

My grandfather is from Malaysia. He's Malaysian born in Singapore. My grandmother was a private thing. She was a little mixed up everything. And they married and had 10 children. And they raised them right there on William Avenue, because. So, yeah, my mother's, my mother had 10 siblings, five with Arabic names, five with Christian names. It's a very blended, very interesting family.

So you were always like around. I'm 49th of Woodland. I, yeah, I did my homework at that bar because I watched the glasses. Yeah. Oh my God, yo, because literally that that little grocery store next door to Alley's Alley. It's reason I don't have any teeth now. All that candy. All that candy.

Remember that damn candy? I used to like... I said, I used to tell him, you want to pay my dentist bill. I go in here, I go in my mom's bar. I get like $3 and that's penny candy. That's 300 pieces of candy. Right. And I would buy it.

I would always be at the store next door, not to mention Jack Myers across the street. Yes. Okay, you're right, Fonte. This might turn into Arsenio and Eddie. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Nah, y'all. Talk y'all shit, man.

Go ahead. But, real rat. But, yeah, that's where I wouldn't feel. West Philadelphia, girl. My grandmother used to live on 49th in King Sessing. So. Okay. My grandma lived one block over, so it was at 49, 48th Street.

Oh, that's by a move house. Yeah, her house is still straight. Yep, right behind, right off of Pascoe. Oh, wow, because I know that sister sledge and their grandmom lived on the block behind. They did. They came, yeah, Kathy's grandmong and them came from around the area, too. Yeah, they were like in the backyard of where my grandma lived. That's where their grandmom lived.

My brother took all of them on the prime. Their mom wouldn't allow them to have prime dates. Like, he took at least three sister sledges on their prom. Like every different year or together. Miss Flo wouldn't let them go out on dates. You're right. It was good. He was like the stand-in prom, dude.

Dude, everyone has a Ms. Flo's story about how strict she was with their daughters. What? I guess you had to do that back then, you know. Of course she did. They were beautiful, talented. And if she hadn't, they would not be where they are today. Okay. So because your story is so low.

I want to, I kind of want to start with the session that will start with to the beach, y'all, your 12-inch single. Okay, so. How did that come to be? So I'm the youngest of four, my oldest sister. I learned and did way too much before my time. But I followed behind her like a little puppy dog, which landed me in the club scene, Kim Gray's, whispers, serendipity.

It was back then, Philly. at a club night every night. Like at Tuesdays you went here, Wednesdays, you went there. Friday, that was popping. That was kind of the- Was it more neighborhood clubs or? No, these were all like downtown. Like Kim Graze was 20th and Samson,

Sarangipis was down there. Club Whispers was like off a 13th and Walnut. So it's kind of like a center city. Yeah, downtown type thing. And I befriended, World Be Free, the basketball player and Darrell Dawkins. And they hung out with my sister. They were older to me.

I was kind of like the little, yeah, a little one that followed behind, just trying to hang out with the older kids. Exactly. You said there's 10 of you? You said there's 10 of you. What's the girl-boy ratio of your siblings? Two and two.

And it's just me and my brother now. I am the youngest. And they're all three years apart. And eight years later, yeah, my mother went to get her appendix taken out and they found an embryo. Here I am. Wow.

I was definitely, definitely not planned. Yeah. So anyway. I started hanging out in the club scene, hanging out with World and them and going up to New York. You know, and I start hearing hip hop. I'm like, this is dope, you know? I was on courtyards and the projects,

walking up to pissy elevators and shit, like listening to hip, like in the hip hop. Like I went to see what their culture was about. And then I was working, I called myself getting a little part-time job before I went back to college, before I went to college in the first place. And where'd you go?

I wanted to go, listen, my plans were to go to Howard. All this got kicked to the curb. Let me tell you the story. That was my plan. I wanted to be a lawyer, a corporate lawyer, is what I wanted to do with my life. This is before this happened. And being in the club, there was a DJ Lawrence Levon. And he would break down these break beats.

And I would put my tray down. I was a cocktail waitress. I put my tray down. Had no business being in there. Mind you, I'm not 21 yet. put my, put my tray down and go, you know, do what I heard world. And I'm doing busting my house. Wait, we'll be free to do.

I was about to say, yeah, he was the original rapper player. No, he took me around people that did it. You understand what I'm saying? Okay. And then, no, seriously, like, we went shopping for him for his first 1,200s, and we set up the tables in the living room, like, it was a whole thing with us. Like, his crew, Darrell, you couldn't tell Darrell Dawkins, he wasn't a rapper. He had the whole, remember quest?

I don't know. Oh, you might be. too young. But he had this whole, he had this whole setup in his crib. He was chocolate thunder, W-D-U-N-K, like they were into it. Really? That's how I got introduced to hip-hop, these older basketball players, they were young at that time. Wow.

To me, they were eight years my elder. And then, so I'm doing this and this becomes popular. And Kim Gray's, now they're telling me, put the tray down, go in here and do your thing, go do one of the rhymes. So then Perry Johnson, That was the DJ of Dr. Perry Johnson from WDAS. Is he still alive? Yes, he's a real doctor now. I actually went and got a doctorate. He's in L.A.

No, no. Okay, wait, whoa, wait a second. You got to slow down a second. He'll get up for our listeners. So Dr. Perry Johnson was probably one of the most. Our Frankie Crocker. Yes, he was one of the most crucial DJs of Philadelphia. If you're a fan of Bohannans, let's start the dance.

come on and do it. Come on and do it. He's a shake a boom, boom, there's a special remix with a guy doing, like, DJ rapping, like, shake a boom, boom, shake a day. Like, if you just look up Bohan and let's start the dance, Dr. Perry Johnson, like, his rapping over that song was just as famous as the original song itself.

But it's such a legend. He's a real doctor now. He's a real doctor now and an author. He had a book signing here, maybe not that long before COVID. I got to meet that brother, Ma'am. Oh, we can make that happen. I have his number in my phone. He would be so tough.

Wow. Shit. He would be so touch. But anyway, he approaches me to do this hip-hop song. And I remember calling World like, yo, they want me to do a record doing what you do, like what the Sugar Hill guys did. And blah, blah,

he's like, you're going to do it. I'm like, I don't want to do that. And long story short, Mimi, Brown. Another well-known DJ and my sister sat up drinking or doing whatever they were doing and took these three by five cards and kept telling me to tell them all my rhymes and they put them on cards and they stuck them on the board. And the very next day I was in the studio and I cut to the beach all. When people wonder why I hate the song so much, even though it will go down in history as the first female on wax, it was to a direct current song that they really didn't make any money off of. So they, rather than do a new track, they made me rap over this. Over the old instrument. So mad about that.

And secondly, come to find out that the guy who owned the label didn't even really want it to really hit, it was more of a tax write-off thing to him. He was kind of a crook. He didn't pay Frankie Smith for double Dutch butts either. Oh, wow. Yeah. He was a real, he was a real shyster. And it was a one-take song. Like, I was like, but I can do that part?

They were like, no, it's fine, print. Like, but Was this on WMOT records? It was before yet MOT was TEC records. It's a yellow label with black writing. Wow. It's challenging.

Yeah. So anyway. But here's the bright side of my To the Beach, all lady be experienced to give you a little hip hop history. I feel like I'm writing a book and telling my truth.

Yeah, because you should be. No, honestly, this is, I've never told these stories before, but I will say this. We'll kick it. I didn't. I got financially taken advantage of with this gentleman, and I didn't get the money,

we turned around the song being the first female, and no one knew the hip-hop was going to be that popular. It messed around and went gold. So, and dude wasn't paying me. But then Mr. Gangster himself, Mr. Joe Robinson, owner of Sugar Hill Records, stepped the dude, got my master, pressed it up, and paid me for my song.

Wow. Okay. And you don't normally hear stories about Joe like that. Right. They laugh. It's a big joke. It's a big joke amongst me and guy. Everybody else on the label, they was like, Lady Bee was only one that got paid.

Joe was like a dad to me, not to forget that I am the one playing all of these records coming out of his camp. So, ah ha. I don't think he was pretty stupid. He was very smart to befriend me at that time. A win is a win. A win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying.

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Listen to a love trapped podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Were you a communications major in college? Like, did you have? I was not. So here we go. So remember I was going to go to college or whatever? And my mother, my paternal father passed when I was three years old from a heart attack. My mother remarried and my stepfather.

passed when I was about 12, 11, 12. So I had, you know, when you're in the service, both of them were in the service, you can go to college for free. It's paid for it because your dad was in the service. So now I'm stuck because I got this record out and I'm getting shows and I'm going up to Harlem and I'm standing on stage with a mic, but it's crazy, but I want to go back to school because I got free school just sitting there. So I came up with the great idea.

And once I got, you know, the record came out and I go. to HAT and I get this job in an office job and I start begging them to let me play hip hop. I said, well, you had to have a license to be on the air. You don't have to anymore. But back then, the FCC required a license. So I went to broadcasting school while I was at the station and got it for three years and got my license. For three years? Damn.

It's a long time of a broadcast. I wanted it extra. There was different levels of it. And I wanted, yeah, I wanted to do more than radio. I got a license like to do TV here. Whatever. There's the things you can do. It's not like that anymore.

The FCC that changed on day. We just walk off the street and get a damn radio show now. Look at us. I got my radio show. See? Yeah. Yeah. So for our listeners listening, she mentioned HAT.

WHAT was an AM radio station. I knew as a kid I knew it because like my, I mean, the way that people always listen and talk radio now, we had a woman by the name of Mary Mason. in Philadelphia, who I owe every grandma. And I mean, I don't know how typical it was for a black woman to have her own platform to that of like, I mean, who's popular now? Kathy Hughes.

Let me tell you some. I was talking in terms of like Alex, what's his name? Like. Let me just share one Mary Mason story. Please, please. Yeah. I'm 18 years old and Nancy Reagan. walks into the lobby, the Secret Serviceer with her, blah, blah, blah.

She just does a pop-up. Right. To stop by to say how to marry. This is how politically strong she was. It was. And she told me, and I quote, tell that bitch, I don't want to. What?

I'm trying to get Carter in office. Wow. Wow. So here I am, y'all. 18 like how do I oh she told you to tell that bitch yes oh so I got to go out here and look this lady in her face and like ma'am I'm so sorry but miss mason it's a flatter that you stop by however her schedule you know I had to go through the whole shebang but that's what she told me I've heard her curse at the mayor and hang up on him about her fillies tickets like she miss mason was a big she is the reason I have the backbone and that my shoulders are back and I've never let anyone talk to me or try to get over, at least not knowingly. I mean, they ended up a couple times anyway, but they had to sneak into it. No, I've never allowed anyone to be blatantly disrespectful in my face, if you will.

I'm going to talk about that later. To me, she was like the original Rush Limba. Like, she was very controversial also. Like, I know she supported like Frank Rizzo or she cried. She was a politician on the radio is what Mary was. And I will have to say that she walked her walk. She was dedicated to this community of people. She got on the air and talked about things that other people wouldn't even touch and called people on it.

Like, she, she may, I witnessed this woman change lives. Yeah. And she was something. And then you took the baton and now you do the same thing. Well, later, because I mean, I didn't take the baton from her then. I take it. I mean, she, you know, when she passed that baton to me, I was doing hip hop. I was crazy.

We was having fun. Y'all was having fun. You just said it. I was playing all that good stuff for y'all. I just came into my Mary Mason vibe right now. That's what I'm here is. Yes. Yeah.

Okay. So I remember like discovering your show around like late, 1980, early 81. You know, every Saturday afternoon, whatever, we, my brother and I would just record like. Everybody says I remind them of Paul's record, pause record. Whenever I see Beanie Siegel, he goes, pause record. Oh, right. No, oh, you're world famous for that.

Get your pause, press your pause button. But to have a radio show, and you were on for like two to three hours, but I'm thinking like back in 81, was there even two to three hours worth of quality hip hop to play every day? So I like to explain it like this. I laugh every time I hear the term digging into crates. And that's crates with an S because when I started playing hip hop on the radio, there was a crate, one crate. Was it full? It was full to the max.

I mean, not everything was, I was picky. It was good enough to play. Right. You know, when we first started, when we realized we could take what we were doing in our backyards and our neighborhoods and our courtyards and put it on wax and that, you know, this was possible. Everybody tried to do it, whether they could rap or not. But I was very, I think the thing that, number one, you have to understand when hip hop started, it was, its purpose was to stop a terrible disease in the black community that was, full of violence and gang war. And it was crazy.

It was getting a little out of hand with it. So hip hop gave, I mean, I'm sure if you spoke to an Africa band body, he would co-sign this. But hip hop gave us a way to battle each other and represent our neighborhoods, not with knives and guns, but with turntables and microphones. And it became this thing, like you had to rep your neighborhood with your rhymes. And God forbid, if you bit anybody else's rhyme, you had to come with your shit, and it had to be real, it had to be raw. and it had to be authentic.

And everybody couldn't do that. Some people just thought they could just get out a book of words that rhyme and put some shit together and hand it to me to get on the air. That happened a lot. But if I couldn't understand, number one, what you were saying, like I, no disrespect to what people like these kids like today or whatever, but mumble rat just makes my skin crawl because for me, a good MC is very articulate.

You can hear everywhere. I don't care if he's saying something wrong, disrespectful. I have to hear what you're saying or why did you raise that banging ass beat? Like, why are you here? B, do you remember, like, your first show and the records that you had to play out of the crate? Like, all right, this is my first show. I got to get so on so on. Well, you have to understand then we kind of got, you know, we did, you know,

I laugh when I see Jeff and Cash and Rich McDine and them cast and you quest and and biz may be rest in peace go deep into this DJ thing. but you have to understand when hip hop started is when we first learned how to cut and scratch a breakbeat. So that took up so much time. Not only am I going to just take the train, but I'm going to take the train for about good 12, 14 damn minutes. So that took a lot of time on the radio.

You know what I mean? You're going to cut that joint. What? Sucker MC then you got the flip side, then you got the instrumental that you could cut in with that joint. Then you got another DJ at one time on Power 99. It was so dope. Me and Jeff Mills, may he rest in peace, had two turn.

Yes, he had two turntables on his side. I had two turntables and we had a reel to reel. So we have six elements going in. I'm cutting it up of the songs in the middle. It was blowing people. It was never crossed my mind. I'm going to just have a real dumb moment because I know I'm not alone in this. I don't think it ever crossed my mind as you were literally mixing records like that.

I remember Ron and Daryl coming to my studio for the first time. They're like, so you're going to mix the record. and interview us, I was like, yeah. Right. You were more than just a personality. It's like, no, I'm an actual beat. I was a big girl on a radio and I still am. Yeah, I was going to say that you also,

you guys would, at least on like the, like the midpoint or at least the last hour of the WHA portion of your show, like you were also playing like craft work. Like what would be? I'm like B-boy, you know, like it's time. Well, you have to understand breakdancing was a major element for us in the beginning of this thing. So if you couldn't break to it, it definitely didn't get played.

And they demanded it because you have to understand, I am taping the only hip-hop you're going to have for the week. And then y'all were Jones into the next week. Like, I was the only one with Pepsi. Right. I understand. I'm the only place you can get it. People were driving.

You can ask Chuck D. They would drive down to Philly to take my show. Yes. So it was like that. It was like this thing and everybody had to have it. And it was just so much freaking fun doing it. It was so. And Mary Mason never said, she never pulled your coat on anything,

not a record. Nobody ever said, listen, you can't be playing that no more. It was never. We won't even mention discombobolator or boobulator. No. I'd love discombobobobble to bea later. No, you cannot love that anymore. What is that song?

No, no, nah, nah, nah, nah. What is that? bet. All right. I'll get the 1986 in a second. Hang on. We had a small controversy with MCBree's discobobulator, blueblator, but wait, before I go on, there's two things I've got to ask. One, how often did you record your own shows on WHAT? He wants them. I know. So everybody, tap money. Every DJ has asked me this question. So in my possession, I have not going through them. I do have some real reals. But it's As far as cassettes, people have been giving them to me over the years.

I meet a listener on the air and said that they used to tape me and they still have them. As a matter of fact, I've been asking people to give them back or I can make a copy of them and give them back to them. And I didn't even have a cassette player in the house, but my niece and nephews bought me one last year. So it's fly little join. It looks like a boombox, but it's Bluetooth compatible. It's so cute. But I have it sitting here on my desk, but I now want to get the cassette so I can hear them. But I do have, like I do have some of those reel-to-reels.

You've got to convert those in like- I have to, I know. I'm getting to the point. COVID did allow me to do a lot of purging. So there is a little order to my madness. So I'm getting it all together. At least I know tapes are here. Real-to-reels are here.

Now I just got to dive into them. Okay. I got to ask a question. There's a record you used to always play and I thought it was a Philly record. And I'm just finding out that this guy is from New York. But do you know the whereabouts of R.C. La Rock, aka. The Maikstra. Are you ready? Hold your hat. Hold your hat because you're not going to believe this is right here.

Hit me. Sunday night. My show is sold out, by the way, at the Dull Music Center. It's been sold out for three. What show is that be? It is my 40th. It is my 40th anniversary and radio and hitting the stage for the very first time at the Dell will be everybody around the nation. I'm going to give you something. I have to fulfill my obligation to set you on a little vacation, but you don't need no reservation. You found R.C. LaRock the micstrode. He's so hyped about doing this show that me and Charlie Mac were like,

I don't know how old he is now. And I'm like, just anybody's telling me he's going to have to put track behind him because he's not going to make it through all the lyrics. Oh. Like there's no way. Me and Tarreek will drive down and do the lyrics for him. No, I was, this is not the answer. I was expecting.

Sunday night at the Dell, be there or B square? Who else is performing at this? Oh, you don't want to know. You ain't ready. I've never had EPMD. They will be in the building because I've been doing this for 10 years now. I've never had nice and smooth they will be in the building. I have my iconic Sugar Hill gang, Melly Mel and his crew.

I have Roxanne Chonte, I always try to have a female every year. She's my female this year. EPMD, nice and smooth. Kumo D will be in the building. And my headliner's Big Daddy King. Oh, man. Yo, you know where the micstrel is. Where's he from?

He's going to be on my state. You got to see this video. Oh, I got to, I'm going to send me your number. I'm saying you this video that he did. He is, he's the maestro. That's all I can say. Wow. You just, you just say.

He wants something like, Yo, Lady B, this is your bull, R.C. The rock. I'm coming down here to rock the joint. That's right. Because B do promo videos for everybody. My God. People were doing, oh, and you have to do one too.

People are doing happy 40th anniversary videos. We're trying to make a little hashtag. Happy 40th, Lady B, spread the word, get everybody to do it. Let's blow the spot up. I will do this. Hashtag happy 40th lady B, let's go. Woo, woo, woo.

Wow. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media.

Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversation, with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.

One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.

This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the player. flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice Podcasts on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12 and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. There's two golden rules that any man

should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid surprises. And Rule 2, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Ego Wodom. My next guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman, Saturday

Night Live and the Big Money Players Network. It's Will Ferrell. Woo-woo, woo, woo, woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with him one day, and I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come look for up-and-coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah.

He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right.

It wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to thanks dad on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. In 2023, Former Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice in so-ins, correct?

I doctored the test ones. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. Sunlight's the greatest disinfected. They would uncover a disturbance. pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg, the Westby and Michael Marantini. My mind was blown.

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I'm not even around that time. I mean, I religiously remember this. But there was a period in which you were off of WHHT between, I guess like around 83. or whatever. What happened in that gap year? Like, I didn't hear, like, I went from... No, I went from HAT to Power 99. Then Power 99 fire me, and I went up to New York. I was on BLS.

Okay, so your original Sunday afternoon show on Power 99? My original radio gig was 1340 a.m. First time hip-hop was ever played on Wax. Then I was approached by DAS, and this is when Power was just born. You know, it should be a country station. Right. This is when they decide to make it, you know, an urban station. They both made an offer.

And honestly, being a DAS child and raised by butter, definitely one of his bonus children. It was Butter who gave me the name Lady B, by the way. Wait, I don't know what your real name is. Do we know what your real name is? I have a government name. Are we allowed with your real name? Bahia.

Everybody calls me Bahaia. That's what the B stands with. Wow. Okay. Yeah. So anyway, they both made an offer, but 99's offer was more. And I went to Butter, kind of teary. I was I'm a kid, and I really wanted, my dream is to work for DAS.

And he told me, and I quote, and I love him for it. He said, baby, I'm going to need you to go get that money. Oh, good for you. And I was like, but Brother, he was like, listen, here, you'll shine. Fly, fly, my child, fly, go get that money. By this point, in 84, 85. when we're going into the second phase of what hip hop is with the death jam era with the rush era who d. You mean when Russell finally got the deal with CBS?

Yes, that. The whole what I call the fresh fest era where you're introducing us to the fat boys, where you're introducing us to the Beastie boys and run DMC and whatnot. I do know that New York's resistance to hip hop being performed at least in Manhattan opens a door for Philadelphia. to become the second biggest market because, you know, Chuck D. East always tell me that the most, you know, they could play in Long Island at that stadium, but they could never play Madison Square Garden.

So to them, playing the spectrum was just as important than playing Madison Square Garden. Those are the brick walls I was telling you about, Quest. Like, people think that, oh, yeah, you know, we start doing this and everybody, you know, open their arms and loved on it. No, we had to fight for a lot of stuff that people take for granted now, in my opinion.

You have no idea. We had politicians. I don't know if I remember picketing at radio stations, no more rapid. Parental advisory, yeah. We went through so much. We went through so much, but, you know, God bless Russell for getting that deal with CBS,

because that's when, you know, now we see the monetary value of it. And we see that, you know, you got executives at CBS who are saying, damn, public enemy and the BC boards are selling just as much as Luther and Michael. Wait, wait a minute. Let's take a look at this. Right. And those kind of numbers and the masses that a national distribution deal brought to hip hop made it,

it was combustible. It exploded, if you will. It touched a globe, something that was created in the boroughs of New York. And by me hanging out with those crazy older people, I had no business hanging out with bringing it to Philadelphia and all of us collectively fighting for the time on a radio. Here's the thing. When I was on AM, the woman who owned this station,

even know my name. This woman walked by me every day, never spoke to me, never said anything. I had these little show for a couple hours on a Saturday. It grew to a Sunday. They saw the numbers started to grow. It grew to a weekly show. And she starts speaking to me, moral of the story. Hi, Ms. Clark.

How are you, Ms. Dye, how are you? She didn't care, nothing about me, but I started making her so much money. Like Billboard did this big article. I broke records on AM ratings. AM had never gotten ratings like that. So that's what happened. Just fast forward to where you're talking about when, you know, it's not an out-your-trunk, you go to the pressing plan and press up your own type situation,

which is what it was. It was like drugs, you know. You didn't bag it up. You pressed it up and then you sent out to the community. So by the time you got the power 99, though, where was hip-hop in this relationship with radio? Because, like, by this time where there other cities, like was L.A. You have to understand that power is where I played Girls of the World Ain't Nothing But Trouble. Okay.

Oh, so we're still in, okay. Yeah, this is when Jeff and this is when Steady B and Will were battling on the radio. I remember that. We had make it or break it. So there's still no West Coast hip-hop radio. Some of the songs they couldn't even wait to get it to the press. I played a lot of acetates. You know what that is?

Yes. You know, right. So I played a lot of. of those. You play it. Don't believe a high acetate that I still can't find. It's a whole different mix. I have acetates here in my storage that I will not part with.

They just have a sentimental value. But I played it off cassette, you know what I mean? Before they even got, they wanted to heavy up and get it out. What should also be noted is that I'm in Power 99 wasn't your only platform. And what I want to know is. Oh, no. Come on.

We were hustlers. I was a little promoter. I did all the hip-hop parties. We did after midnight. Yeah, I was going to say after midnight, the mecca, the mecca of that's our pop is really. That's Philadelphia's Ritz. That's Philadelphia is, you know, I don't know which New York venue I could compare it to. It ain't the Latin quarter, right?

Latin quarters. No, no, that was our Latin quarter. Oh, that was all Latin quarter. It went down, okay. This is what I want to know, though. Now, I was for, I was forbidden to go to after midnight because, of course, you know, parents were like too violent, da-da-da-da-da. Was after night, it was after midnight as bad as all the authority figures in my life told me that it was?

First of all, God bless the authority figures in your life. Oh, really? Not everyone survived the era of after midnight. Ah, I will say that. It was, I wish I knew the history. The owner passed away not too long ago, too, but. I want to say before it was a hip hop club. It was some kind of seedy underground, because it had like a movie theater in it.

Right. And it had these obscure rooms off. Where it came to the size? Well, no, he took and brought the spaghetti warehouse and tried to make it, but nothing would ever be as the underground's rowdown was. You're going down, he steps into this basement. And once you enter, you're in a whole different world.

You know, me and Shantae, she brought me to tears, but we were talking about the first time she and Biz had performed there. Right. And picture this. This is one of my favorite nights with Biz and Shantay. So you know how Philly is, our fans are ignorant. So Shantay's up there with her little squeaky voice.

I'm Shantay, Biz-Dibbiz. So, no, Biz is her beatbox. He's beatboxing. There's no record playing. He's beatboxing for it. And this nigger in Philly yells out, Yo, fuck you, you suck, you at. Some shit, something disrespectful.

And she turned around, she looked at biz. She said, give me a good beat, Biz. And she came off the stage and off the top of her head tore this boy down. You're a bum, you're a bum, you're a bum, you're a bum. And she just, everything that he was wearing, she talked about, she tore him up down to his sneakers, how his hair was messed up, his breath stank. It was, and all you see is people are to stand there. I'm like, oh, snap.

Like, that happened. Like, no. I will never forget that night. Like, not ever. It was the best. It was the best. Were you there for the infamous jazz fresh Big Daddy Came battle? I've heard about this, but did it?

Listen, you don't even know. I don't know. Do you remember when, what was it called? I hear, the World Supremacy Contest that Philadelphia DJs kept winning. The DM, they had it had to marry out. You know, before that, it was a convention. Right. It was the world supremacy contest for the best DJ.

Yeah, before your time. Jeff won, Ms. won, and cash money won. So one year, I'm judging. And Jeff won. I'll never forget that. That's the year he took the basketball out and put it on the turntable. And we'll jump in over the table. And we're freaking out because he won.

Because this is for all the DJs. around the world. And then next year, I'm on a judging panel again and cash money won. And they were like, I was influencing the judges. It's not fair. Philly keeps winning because Lady B is, you know. They said you rigged it. No, they were just saying like I was yelling at the other, at the other, the other judges. Like, you can clearly see it's not because I'm from Philly. Like that was dope. Like they had little tricks. Yeah, it was a DJ contest. So the five year they said I had to emce the contest. I couldn't be a judge. So we're going to dispel, you know, that rumor. And then Ms. one. And then Ms. one. I wasn't even a judge that year.

Right. DJ Ms. from Philly. Philly got the best. They got the best DJs. That's those kind of really did something. And we still, we still are the best when it comes to the cutting and the scratching and the transforming. I lived and worked up New York for five years on the radio and I always with my chest out. I'm not scared of you. I'm like, okay, hip hop was born here. Y'all got some dope MCs, but when it comes to the tables, Billy wins, hands down. That train record of a mix that y'all do up there, and I'm cracking on the records and not playing them long enough.

Yes. Oh, my God. Oh, wow. Are there any other legendary after midnight stories? Like, is there an artist who is an icon now? I'm going to tell you, here's a reason why you're, this is where, this is where, this is why your parents didn't want you to come to after midnight. So we literally checked at the door.

We had the whole, the wands with the metal detectors and whatnot. And I guess this guy got a little 25 in and his Timberlin. And Chuck B and Flavor on stage, it's public enemies on stage. And we hear pop, pop, pop, and everybody starts to scramble and run. And that's the day I found out that the S-1Ws were really,

really security. That wasn't a prop. All I remember is being folded in half. And next thing I know, I was down the steps in the dressing room. I don't even know how got there. That's how fast. They moved me. How often would that happen? They gently took my stomach and that didn't happen. That was the only

gun incident. But it was one that I always remember because they literally took my stomach and with their hand and they put my head down. And then two brothers had my elbows. And next thing, I know I was downstairs. Jesus Christ. Yeah, I'll never forget the night that you premiered Rebel without a pause. I talk about this in my book.

Like, you and Snow, first of all, where is Snow? I just saw him at a balloon release in memory of a friend that we lost Big Bob. Do you remember Big Bob? Yes. That passed away. Well, his mom, he died during COVID, and we really couldn't do anything special. And on the year anniversary, not too long ago, his mom asked that. We all come to the house and release some balloons in his name and we did.

We all showed up. So that was cool. He's a big pop. I'm guessing I'm not talking about the informer. Okay. No, but you're talking about it. So I want to get back to playing. Snow was this dope-ass white boy.

He came up with the term. He used to say dope backwards. So we weren't allowed to say the word dope on the air. We couldn't say that was dope. So he made an E-Pot. Oh, wait. You weren't allowed to say dope? Yeah, we got in trouble for saying dope.

What? E-Pod. That's dope. So he flipped it and said it was E-E-Pod. He's just trying to be cool. No, that was our way of saying it without saying it. Wow. Are you kidding?

But anyway, let me tell you about public enemy. I had a boss who said that I couldn't play public enemy. That's what I wanted to know. Okay. Forbid me to play public enemy. And I quit my job. I said if I- Is this not Harry, Alan, Dave Allen?

No, this is before Dave Allen. No, no names. No, it was actually the guy before Dave. I don't know the owner of 99. Doesn't even matter. He didn't want me to pay Plubbock Enemy. Oh, the black guy. Mm-mm.

Okay, okay, okay, okay. Nope, he wasn't the black guy. Wow. But anyway, I quit my job. I said if I can't play them, then I quit and forced their hand. And they went back in the studio and I played him. Really? Wow.

But I had to put my foot down. Yeah, I was going to say the night you premiered Rebel Without a Pause, was like if you guys are familiar with Orson Wells and the original War of the World where original war in 1930s when in 1930 people thought aliens were invading the United States they thought it was a real like news report and when it was just like back when they used to listen to radios you know that sort of thing and all I remember was Chuck D got to Power 99 around one in the morning. And the, I've never heard, like, it was the, it was the kind of silence, like,

when someone dies on a sitcom, like, all laughing. It was like, you, snow, you know, I used to go to school with Mononka. Oh, yes. She worked for me. I know. So all of you are quiet in the studio. And you was like, look, I'm going to go to commercial right now. but I need y'all to get your tapes.

I'm going to play something for you that you just, I can't describe what I'm about to play for you. They're my favorites to the day, but I'll never forget the day being up in Def Jam and up New York and Russell's saying, you're not going to believe this thing that Hank had Chuck did. And I'm like, let me hear it. I felt in love.

I felt, I rocked that cassette all. all the way back down and turnpike. I feel you. It was so dope. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care which I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th.

You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for Raw,

unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.

This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galko, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the player. flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode.

Listen to the Sports Slice podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, for wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slice of Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl.

You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And Rule 2, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me?

The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

What's up, everyone? I'm Ego Wodom. My next guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and the Big Money Players Network, it's Will Ferrell. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day And I was like

And dad I think I want to really give this a shot I don't know what that means But I just know the groundlings I'm working my way up through And I know it's a place that come Look for up and coming talent He said if it was based solely on talent I wouldn't worry about you

Which is really sweet Yeah He goes but there's so much luck involved And he's like just give it a shot He goes but if you ever reach a point Where you're banging your head against the wall And it doesn't feel fun anymore It's okay to quit

If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. In 2023, former bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal.

The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring ink. inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice in so-ins, correct? I doctored the test ones. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. Sunlight's the greatest disinfected.

They would uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg Alesspian and Michael Marantini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences.

Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at Americopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until justice is served in Arizona. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In general, what was the protocol for? like hip hop promotion back then because besides Mr. Magic, I mean, again, like you are a major portal. So like, is it relationships with like when someone wants to break a new act open

like how does someone approach you about the fat boys? They had to bring it to me, you know, everybody had to come. Everybody had a record rep that came and you was the only gig in town, right? B, like literally radio and club. I'm going to tell you, I lived in this duplex apartment. And you're right. I was so broke.

It was my very first apartment and I remember the lady downstairs, she was cool with me. She would let me leave the door that we shared open because they would just come and stick the records and leave them in my hallway. Right. Yeah. And they just leave them there for me. They've got to know where I live.

Like all the promotion men hung out at my crib. It was like a damn. Yeah. And that was never a problem. Damn, like, la la. Come on, I was young. It was like, it was the first thing ever. You never felt in no harm's way. That's like, that's a beautiful thing.

It's another time. I know, now you got to understand. I still got my crazy oldest sister around me too. And then there's that. I mean, you know. And may she rest in peace. My sister was a straight gangster. So I didn't fear too much, no.

So what I want to know is, was there an act that a label or a manager try to push off on you that you weren't feeling at the time or whatever? and you were like, all right, well. Oh. Are you, how honest are you allowed to be when it comes to like, I like this, I don't like this? I

no, I definitely that was one thing. I played what I wanted to play. And when have you been wrong? I was wrong a couple times. I was wrong about Hammer. Well, that's fair. But you never, no, but you never played, you never played like

I did an honest, make a or break it. I let the listeners vote. They didn't vote. I broke the damn record. It's not my fault. The Phillies didn't like it. I forgot about making or break it. I would remember I would literally crack the record. You could hear all the vinyl fall on the ground. That was a real

thing. What was the record? What was the Hammer record? That's our... Everyone he ever gave us. And then it went pop and then it came back around. I remember the spectrum of Hammer sent his security people to come get me and he was mad. I went in his dressing when he was like,

while you break my record, I'm like, it's a contest, dude. I didn't do it. Philly broke your record. I didn't break it. I mean, I'm just a messenger. I'm going to let you all in on something. Hammer's biggest fan in 1987, Tariq, Black Thought, Trotter. The clothes.

The clothes. No, he. He was the pants. He was the pants. No, Tariq was this. It was the way he went side to side. What would explain? Because I just lost so many points with me just now.

I love hammer. I'm gonna tell you why. Don't make me throw a pan at the screen. Let's get started. Listen, wait, let me explain. That was. I'm gonna say, I didn't say I didn't like it. It wasn't very popular.

It was Philly. Yeah. No, no, I'm gonna tell you, Tariq loves the Apache breakbeat so much. The turn this mother out. That nobody, nobody could go any wrong on it. Oh, so it was the beat that got you because I'm not made it the beat. No pinion. I'm in the back.

By Tariq just love, turn this mother out. And I think. It was your day. It was your beat. It was just your beat. I don't know. But literally, like, the two acts that Tariq forced me to get onto that I wasn't feeling initially was Hammer and believe it or not, NWA. Because I just looked at NWA and just said, oh, they're going to be whack.

You know, I didn't, I didn't listen to you. Wait, wait, wait, wait, because now you're blowing my mind. And I was like, oh, shit. You're blowing my mind because you are my drummer forever in my head. Like I put you synonymous with the beats. So now you're scaring me. So you have to understand. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

So there's Hank Shockley and Public Enemy and there's rebel and his fight for the power. It's all of that. It's all that drummage, all that fly-ass beats, which NWA emulated. So how in the hell with all those banging beats does a quest love not like some NWA. You're going to explain that shit to me. I'm going to bring it back to the roots. That's simply because I looked at NWA without even listening to the music. It was the look.

I just saw it. I was like, are they corny? All right. So without saying, I get that part. I get that part. You change the kiss. But this happens to us. To this day, to this day, we conceded.

I get that part. To this day, Nause will deny it. but I realized, okay, we did a show at Radio City Music Hall once, and Nas was like going to do a walk-on with us, and we're sound-checking, and like, Nas was losing his mind at soundcheck. Now, mind you, this is like 2008. Okay. And, you know, I'm in the, any of your, like, I have a special microphone that

only roots and root staff can hear me. And I was like, yo, man, Nause is really giddy about us, like, in a way that I'd never expect it. And then 10 minutes later, it just hit me. Oh, this is the very first time that Nas in 2008 is listening to the root. Because he was on the phone with this boy, like, yo, they sound just like the record. He can play breakpiece and da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And so in my mind, I was like, oh, yeah, so you were one of them people that looked at us in 95.

95, like. That was his very first time seeing you guys? It's, look, I'm just telling you that in case and point is that freestyle that he did on Frontmaster Flex. A lot of the, a lot of the elation of people looking at Tarik doing that freestyle was the fact that they just never sat for a good time. I got it. I got it.

It took a minute. Oh, I get it. I get it. All right. Okay. I mean, it's like, it's like, it's like. It's like Dame Dash on the Kanye record, like, oh, shit, it's not whack. Like, that's what Tariq was getting.

Okay. So I did it. Like, I looked at NWA and was just like, ah, they whack. And then Tariq played me side one of straight out Compton. I was like, wait, they sound like East Coast. Like, I didn't know they were real. So it's just you got to listen to it. And I'm going to be honest, not only did I think that they were corny

And I don't know. I just didn't believe it. I had never been to Compton. And like I said, I love to beat my sister. Like I said, she was crazy. She was a gangster. I called her Dre until the day she died. That was her nickname.

Like she loved NWA so much. Right. But she blasted it. But then, you know, I went to Compton. I went out West and I saw it. And then I had a new respect for NWA after seeing that. Because back then it was another thing you couldn't do. You couldn't rap about something that you weren't.

Yeah. Like you can't, you couldn't front. Yeah. Like you tough and knowing you was a little punk, like you couldn't do that. That was forbidden for me. You had to be what you were talking about. And when I went out there, I remember it was iced tea. I had an artist, ice cream tea.

Yeah. It was her first trip out west. She had a couple gigs lined up. And I had these kids. I had to get their parents to sign waivers and all this stuff. And I turned around and he had taken all my kids to Compton. Like what? You imagine ice cream tea?

Yeah, that was my artist. Damn, he was dipping all in the thing. Oh, by the way, yeah, we just did an episode with Tracy Ellis' dad, Bob Ellis. And I know that ice cream tea was also signed on that same level on MCA, Strong City Records. With Busy B and whatnot. Yeah, we were all a big family. Talk about you on that. Yeah.

Bob Ellis was one of the nicest men I ever met in my life, but I had a, I entered into a business venture. I made a bad deal with a brother, I won't say his name, but I started the first hip-hop magazine. It was called Strictly Hip-Hop. I've read Strictly Hip-Hop, yes. And that was my magazine. I did not know that. Yeah, that's my name in the back of it next time I see one. Wow.

But anyway, Bob Ellis. I went to court with my partner. It turned down to be a disaster. But Bob Ellis was very helpful and helping me come up with cash for litigators and stuff. I did fight a good fight. Oh, yeah. But yeah, he was very helpful to me. Really nice guy.

Bob was like our fifth guest that had a Lady B story. I'm trying to remember some of the other folks, but he was like. Yeah, Bob was cool people. Wow. He was real cool. I think it was Premier and some other people, but yeah. Wait, I, okay. I got to ask, though.

like I do know that when we were younger, like you were like everybody's crush. You literally everyone's crush. How did you, I could only imagine, I mean, if we're now just dealing with the politically correctness of a very toxic male atmosphere, you know, especially in the music business, how did you handle that back then? Again, I was just, it's funny that you asked that because I was just, we were just having a conversation. Me and Lee Daniels, I grew up across the street from Lee. Really?

Yeah, he's like my brother. Wait, is Lee from Philly and I don't know this? Yes. Right across the street. Everything is about Philly. All of the damn characters are named after us. All the characters are named after like cookie. I want to say that cookie, the character of Cookie on Ex-Py,

Empire was my sister. Oh, which sister are you? Was my sister. I mean, I think that he got a lot of what my sister was in our upbringing out of and created that character. Wait, why I'm not just wondering this now? I don't know. Where did you live in some little bubble?

You know what happened, B? Amir left and kind of got a little famous. And so his trips to Philly were like so. Like it. Like it. During that part, you was really super duper. You was really getting the duper famous. Why is me, me and Lee

been talking on the phone for like almost a year and a half because I was supposed to score Billy Holiday. Not once did he ever tell me he was from Philadelphia. Because he probably assumed that you knew. He probably thought that you knew, but any who asked me about

what was the question of Oh, about the Me Too thing. So, and explaining who my sister was again. So me and Lee were having this conversation and we were just talking about some of our friends who had had some difficult times and things happened to them or whatever. And I have to honestly say I didn't have too many, me, definitely no bad ones, but not too many even small, me too, stories because people were scared of my sister.

That's crazy. I got more than you, and you came. Like, I remember a guy, I thought he was fine. I wanted to go out with this guy so bad at his biggest questions. He's a drug dealer. Da, da, da, da. I hop my hot ass in his car. And we went for this ride, and we're pulling up to this CD hotel and Jersey.

And I'm like, what are we doing? Why are we here? You know, I'm just got no business being out or in this man's car. And he said, and he was like, oh, we're just going to chill here for a minute to go to the movies. I was like, well, I got to call my sister and tell her. And I said, who's your sister? And I told him, and he put me in a car and he sped back across the bridge. And he let me out in front of my house.

I never heard from him again. But way, B, everybody ain't know your sister, though. And everybody. So you're trying to tell me in your career, nobody has tried to test you. Oh, well, I'm sure they have. I'm just saying I don't have any moments where I would have to, you know, take anybody to court and all this drama. And that's funny because we were saying, if somebody did do something to me,

I would, if you, I laughed the other day and I said this, and this is a quote, if you bothered, touch me wrong or disrespecting me on Tuesday at 2 o'clock, by 205, I was telling. Like, we're not, what? That's beautiful that you had somebody to tell because you was at home. Yeah, because she was at home in Philly. Hell yeah, a lot of people approached me. Yeah, I was back to a corner like, oh, I'm going to tell my sister better move. That's beautiful.

You know, it's also rare that radio people never have to move away from home. So the fact that you got to stay at home and that you did, that surround the community, that's such a blessing. Nothing but a blessing. My sister traveled with me, but that was just the way I was raised. And then my brother,

you know, the nerd, the Harvard grad, he, you know, just by bullying me all my life and tickling me and wouldn't, you know,

sitting on me and wouldn't let me up. I learned how to fight pretty well. Just getting out of those headlocks and stuff with it. How do you feel now, fast forward that a lot of like, you know, not for nothing,

some of your brothers that you came up with and made famous are now kind of in the spotlight. in that way. And that times of change of the things that weren't acceptable, you know, kind of like...

It's sad, but I will say that they say success can make or break you. I mean, I've seen some brothers and people that I know that little, very disappointing and heart-wrenching to see where they ended up to see that money and fame. Maybe I don't know what to blame it on.

I can't tell their story. Changes. I'm very, I'm very, I'm proud to be where I'm, where I am now and staying in these shoes. And I like to raise every my nieces and all the young women that I can teach to put those shoulders back and don't let men treat you. I remember when the R. Kelly tape came out and I walked into the radio station and the guys were in a conference room looking at it. Yes. And they were literally scrambling looking for the remote to have it off by the time I hit the door.

Oh. And that said a lot because they were not going to watch that in front of me. That's the respect that I demanded. You know what I'm saying? And I remember, you know, like Shamara coming to me, why don't they talk to you the way they talk to me? And I was like, because you allow them. See, when you stop somebody in their tracks and go, I have to say it, you know, I'm a sports girl. I hang out with the guys.

but the conversation go a little left. Excuse me, lady in the room. I see it all the time. Wait, wait, wait. Interesting. I went too far. And I went too far.

Bring it back. You have to demand that kind of respect. Was there ever a time where you just felt like, okay, this might be above my, not above my pay grade, but just sort of like where you might have gotten exhausted

and not really know, like, where you, you were where you stood with hip hop. I know that people often get to that place where it's sort of like, okay, what is this? I remember getting burnt out. I remember being angry that it got so diluted.

Watered down. Which arrow was that? I want to say, mostly time when I was up there in New York, like 90, 92, 3, up in that area. What station in New York were you on? WBLS. Wow.

Okay. You know, I didn't even realize that the kid. I was there when Frankie Crocker was the program director and yeah. What was he like? He was not a not a nice guy. That's a different. You're the only person I know that actually worked in proximity of him. Like I know.

Here's a story. He was a story. He would call these staff meetings. crazy early in the morning and basically talk about itself for like the first 45 minutes. The first 45 minutes. The first 45 minutes.

I'm like this dude named Elroy, I know. So, yeah, it was like that. And then I remember I just being sarcastic and I was like, you know, Red Alert has all these contests because I was going up against Red Alert over at Kiss at the time. And I'm like, y'all don't have any contests for anything for me to give away.

How am I going to compete? I'm not from New York. You know, I gotta come here and, you know, I'm getting my feet wet, but y'all, I need some help. And he said, well, what do you want, Lady B? And I said, well, can you, I don't know, can they win a date with Big Daddy Kane or something? And he, you know, just showing off, he picked up the phone. He gets Warner Brothers on the phone. Of course, he says, that's done deal. You want anything else? And I'm like, no, that'll be enough. And it happened? So it happens. So Bugsie, so we do the whole promotion, Kane. goes on a date with the girl. We know he do the pictures, blah, blah, blah.

And we come back and Bugsy is on the air signing on. He was also in New York. Okay. Right. He's in New York. I remember from Power 9-9-Den. He's on series now. And he's still on Kiss, I think.

Okay. So he's going to his crossover with Frankie Crocker. And Frankie Crocker says, yeah, Lady B's jeans are fitting a little too tight today. I might have to fire her because you can't mess with company personnel. Wow. And I was so, I was so insulted. So I immediately started the West, the Willing Avenue and he came out, and I'm like, who the fuck?

And Kane, big daddy came save my job when he put his hand over my mouth. Wow. He was like, me, he's a boss. You're going to lose your job. It was, that happened. Oh, my God. That happened. Jesus.

That happened. So those are some of my stories. I don't believe I'm sharing these stories in public. Amir, y'all not gonna tell us how the song came to ever? Just the boopity scoop or whatever. No, but that too. Discombobulated. Yeah.

I was talking about the roots drawn, but yes, that too. They said that I said it on the air all the time. They said, I didn't remember this, but Tyreek and Mir said that I said something on the air without a doubt all the time. And then they took school. The school, he's beat, right? Yeah. And they asked me to come in the studio. And I'm like, come in the studio and do what?

They said, we just want you to say what you say on the radio without a doubt. I'm like, that's all I got to say. They were like, yeah. I'm like, all right. Yeah, we had a tape of an old of an old show of hers. But, you know, back then it was FM radio and sometimes static would be. I mean, now, you know, I embraced imperfection and mistakes and all those things. So I would gladly sample someone with FM radio, static.

But back then, I love it. It's coming back to people want that scratchy song again. This sounds like a cheap radio. Let's get it to do it for real. And it was the best session. They were blazing. I was like, we're allowed to do this in here. This is amazing.

Yeah. I will say that fun fact, the, without a doubt, is the one song that we made that wasn't recorded directly. we didn't do a lot of the tracking. We didn't do that at Sigma initially. We had to use the studio on Kansha Hocken. And when we got to the studio. But I was in Sigma, but that's where I came to me.

Right. You did your part of Sigma. I did my part of Sigma, rest in peace, Sigma. We did, we did the tracking in Kansha Hocken, and we did it on Rick James' Neve board that he did for street songs. Wow. And the engineer and the owner of the studio that purchased that game, collected all the cocaine residue that that board had for at least seven years.

And I swear to God, it could fit like a garbage bag. So let me tell you my Rick James story that scared me, and I know you're not lying. So when I was a young girl, another one of my jobs at the radio station was to get the artist to do drops. I used to do drops. Oh, yes, I do. This is Rick James. When I'm in town, I listen to whatever, whatever. So I never forget it.

Crazy little rock and roll white guy was our engineer. I loved him. The name was Alan. He was like all over the place. And Rick James walks into the studio and he just does it. He just lays down his long line on the console. In the radio station. In the radio station.

And I'm standing like, oh, crap. I ran back and told my boss. I was like, yo, dude, it's off the chain. like he's just doing lines right there. And then Alan, he's crazy. He was like, dude, I want some and it was just a whole thing. And wait, what? The Ais.

It was a whole, girl, girl. It was all, I was like this being like the book, sorry. That was the crazy. I was going to say outside of hip hop, like you also had interactions with, you know, non-hip hop artists as well. And like at any point during your first. five to 10 years of being a radio personality, did you also do

non-hip hop radio as well? Like, this is Luther Bandro. No, no. Not in the beginning. You didn't wait for the Jackson's, like. I mean, yeah, I had to. We did that of the stuff on the station. Yeah, sure.

I mean, you know. But you ain't played that shit. Who didn't, no, I didn't go into regular format for, like you said at the beginning of this conversation from, you know, 79, 89, it was all, I was all about it. So understand listening audience, the privilege that you are listening to. Not only did she DJ, not only did she speak, she picked her own records for 10 years as a radio person.

It just don't happen. It just, it don't happen. It doesn't happen anymore. I'm going to tell you enough. Well, sometimes, I guess I could tell this because he's no longer with us, but Mary Mason's son was my job, was my boss. And I remember he got into an argument with. the guy at a what was running profile and

Mori, Mani, okay. Mani, I want to say his name was Mani. Anyway, they got into this big fight and I wasn't allowed to play. Run DMC? Run DMC. And I remember taking a marker because he didn't know one rapper from the other, like he wasn't into hip hop.

So I blacked out the labels. So when he came in the studio, I wouldn't get cut. What? I know you have a billion of these stories, man. Like, you know, things that you don't think about. Yeah, I had to do that. He would kill, he would come back to life and kill me if he knew that. But yeah, I would black out.

Because I just love Sucker MC so much like there's no way I'm not playing this. B, you're the reason I rebel. And then you want to say it's all my fun. I just hit me. Lady B. Can you, can you settle this, this Philadelphia rumor? Okay, I'll try. I'll try.

I mean, I smoke just as much as the rest of you. My memory could be gone, but go ahead. No, no, no. I mean, this is 13-year-old ninth grade Amir asking this question. Oh, God. Yes, Amir. What can I do for you, dear? A win is a win.

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Okay, so let me tell you how that story started. You? What? So, first of all, we had a promotions director. So listen, we had a promotions director at the radio station, and I want to say it was the inquire. Anyway, there was an article written about all the radio. radio stations in Philadelphia and they left us out.

They left out Power 99. We got no mention. And this promotion's director, she's pissed. She's like, how in the hell can they leave us out? We're the number one urban station, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. She goes, we have to come up with a real great gimmick. Oh, no. I felt for the Lepid.

No, listen. Listen, patience, my brother, patience. So she says, Felicia O'Shaad was just proposed to buy her husband. What was his name? Amar Shah. Amar Shah. Yeah, I remember that. He proposed on a sports show, remember?

On the parade. On the parade. Right, whatever. On TV, everybody knew. I saw it. So, she says you guys should do some kind of, you know, like, gag like that and act like BJ's proposing to you. So we set it up.

It happens post-game of a Sixers game. It goes up on the screen, a whole nine. And we couldn't tell our co-workers. Only the program director knew and his lady. We had to act like to really sell it. We had to act like with our coworkers that we were, you know, dating. And they're like, oh, let me see you kiss. And I fake kiss them.

And he proposed to me at the game. It goes up on a screen. The crowd is yelling. Say yes. Say no. The crowd's going crazy. And I'm laughing. so hard.

So I grabbed my girlfriend. I put my head down on her shoulder as if I'm crying, but I'm really laughing, but I got to try to play yourself. Right. So everybody thinks I was crying and I, you know, and I just ran off like, you know, I can't give an answer now, blah, blah, blah. Then we milked it on the air. PJ proposed to me.

Will she say yes? Blah, blah, blah, blah. The whole, it just got out. It just got out of hand. So then we're hosting the new edition show at the Spectrum. And we come out and we come out. and we make the announcement. He goes, I want to introduce you to my new edition.

Lady B. said yes, we come out of stage. He said yes. But in all of this hanging out and pretending, he ended up really cracking on me. And he ended up really proposing to me. What? And, yeah, he proposed by putting the diamond ring in an iced tray and told me to go get him some ice or something. and then I went and got some ice and he was like, look at the ice

and he was like, look at the, I was like, what is in this? It was the whole thing. Anyway, it turned out to be a very horrible relationship, though I might say, and he rest in peace too. It turned out to be horrible, one of the worst relationships in my life, but at first it was a gag and then it really happened and then I really ran away from it. I just remember the day after,

I guess the Sixers thing happened, just every, That's all, you know, and this is before social media. Right. We were our own social media. This was a very viral thing that happened. It was the talking to barbershop. Yes, exactly. And I always wanted to know that.

Wait, Fonte, I got to explain to you because I know we'll skip discobobulated, boobulated. He really wants to know that. You would know. I thought that's what you're about to talk about. Yeah, what is that? You would know him as Joey B. Ellis. All right. The Rocky Five digger.

Right. But before he was Joey B. Ellis, the singing, the original Drake, the singing rapping guy. No, no, that was a big deal. Like, his thing was like, I sing and I rap, you know, then, you know, people are like, well, about T.J. Swan. He's like, well, he can't rap. Like, so.

That was his little niche. Right. So in about like 85, 86, he comes out, you know, after school. came out to do PSK and totally just revolutionized, you know, Philly hip hop, right. Then there came a whole slew of other Philly acts with their little yellow labels with hand-drawn cartoons and all that stuff. Designed their own labels, made their own clothes.

Right. And that person was, he was, he was called the singing MC Breeze before he was Joey B. Ellis. Oh, wow. And he did, he did a song that was so popular, but, Unfortunately, like the last verse was about a melee that happened in a Chinese restaurant. And, of course, you know, he's playing all the stereotypes of Chinese people. Oh, wow. He's like, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, that was the main part of it. That song was like, instantly number one.

And I remember that Lorraine Ballard Morrow. Oh, no, mixed with Asian. Yeah, like Lorraine Bauer Moore was very offended of the song and like gave a special news. Like that's the first time we heard about like you can't perpetuate stereotypes. And this is very. Can't say that. Exactly. So.

Yeah, he was just like, that's hip hop because your age is died didn't even pop out. Why didn't you have you asked me about how much problem I had with Skulley? I didn't even get. I didn't even know this. You played PSK and all his records so much. So Skooley came to me. Right. I'm on, I just got my job on FM.

You can't tell me nothing. I'm on the radio radio. Like, this is real. It was just a joke before. This is real real. I got a whole job. Right. And here comes, Schooley, with his record with, I don't know, at least 25, 30 curse words.

And I'm like, Schooley, what am I supposed to do with this? Right. And he started crying. You won't play my record. He's sitting on the curve. He's so dramatic. I can't. Ask Scully.

He will tell you the story. Oh, I believe. That I made his ass cry, that he was sitting on the curb. And I wouldn't play a song. So he would bring me like a six-minute song that had about, like I said, a skillion fucks in it. And I remembered me and Jeff Mills taking it, putting it on real to real. And doing our own cut, tape edit on a reel to real. Like take out his curse word, tape it back up, put the tape back on, put it back on the reel to reel.

And after I took out the Cuswoldie song, went from like six minutes to about 250. And that's the part I played until the company had to do me at radio edit. But at the beginning, I had to do my own radio edit. And that is the way we didn't have the equipment and stuff, you know, the technology we have now. One of my favorite nights of yours was the aforementioned steady, B versus Will Smith battle.

Yeah. Now that's a tape I can't find. Dude. Okay. So Will Smith will forever, he'll forever have my respect because he somehow got the call. He freestyled that Steady B was a Munchy Chi. And I just remember at that point, Steady B actually wanting to fight Will and them like. And I did not help matters any because I thought it was the funniest.

the funniest is, I had ever heard. And I think the fact that we all laughed made him really angry. Yo, we were all laughing when that happened. That was the era when Shanty stepped off that stage. That was the era when you had to come off raw off the top of your head and just, you just had. That was actually what you call free styling. That was freestyling. People can't see Will in that environment today.

They underestimated Will because they were like, well, you're not real hip hop, you're suburban, you talk all proper. First of all, he wasn't a suburban. He lived in my neighborhood. In fact, he wasn't out there, gang banging. Talk about it, be. Grabbing his join and acting, and, you know, didn't come up in a one-parent household.

We didn't learn how to respect women and stuff. Just because he wasn't raised like that. Wow. Not mean he wasn't a part and just as authentic and true to hip-hop as everybody else. That is what I love the most about him. That's when, when was the first one, you know, who made me his lyrics made me smile.

I call it happy hip hop. You know, everybody else was all bravado. I got a big, back Cadillac. I got this. No, you don't. You live in your mama. I was like, stop lying. You know what I mean?

But Will was like the first one. I mean, you know, it was, it was funny. It was fun. It made you smile. And then you put a dope DJ like Jeff with him. And it was just the greatest combination ever. Wow. Ever.

I can go on and on nerd and out forever. It's been beautiful seeing your friendship too and how it's evolved and stuff you, Jeff and Will, and how they still come out and support you. That shit is dope. I just texted the guy that's on the movie set with him. I'm like, tell Will, I need a one-minute video of him. Congratulate me for my 40th.

He's doing it as soon as he gets out of such and such. I'm like, thank you. He never. He's going to do it. He lives for Instagram posts. So you know he's going to. No, show you miss was my 30th. He came home to surprise.

I didn't even know he was coming to the show. Really? He performed with salt and pepper. He did, what a man. He performed with Chuck and Flav. He got out there. He was a whole S1W. He did a lot of God. He was done the whole side of show. He stayed on stage all night and wait. And there's more. It rained, torrential rain. It was like the hip-hop woodstock. It people did not lead. They stayed in the rain. Will was shaking me. Are you having as much fun as me? I'm like, I don't think so. Wow. No.

He stayed on stage all night and surprised me. It was the dopes thing ever. Well, you deserve all your flowers. Hell, yeah. In 81, you just, you literally introduced me to the world that I get to, that I built an empire on. Wow. That says a lot. I want to thank you for that.

And don't forget about your radio mentees around here because she got a lot of those in the world, too. Oh. I love that one. And that's my little mini lady, because she only, and though she sit up here and act like she asked, but I ain't let nobody say nothing to her either. She was the only one of the staff needs to speak up. Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, right. Be watched me get fired. That one right there. Proud of that one right there. You watch me get fired too, girls. So it's all good. You have any, you got any children? Like, no, I tried.

But my sister, again, I talk about her so much. She's been going for two years now. No, my sister gave me kids. And then my old man passed away on me, and he left me kids. So am I a mother and a grandmother? Yes, to every extent of the word. I have taught them to walk, talk, potty trained school meetings. I am a mother.

You birthed a nation. And I am a grandmother. And I literally, you know, I remember when my sister took ill, she had a stroke, and I was taking care of her in her latter years. and the doctor asked her, you know, you don't have a high blood pressure or anything. You don't, do you worry about anything? It says you have three children and seven grandchildren. She says, no, I don't do that.

My sister does that. And she meant it. I raised her kids. She was my, she called me her baby daddy. She sent me cards on Father's Day. Wow. You're the dopes dad. Yeah, but that's dope.

Okay. Yes. They walk right past their mother come to me. Crazy. So discombobulated. I'm not, what is this, that title? What is, what is that song? I don't know, but if you know.

I just explained it to you. You played the story. Oh, that was the, that was the, I didn't know that was the offensive. That was the one that had, I didn't know that was the joy to tell us, MC Bree's thing. Got it. Yeah, got it. Google it.

If you remember the follow up to girls in none but trouble, a song called just one of those days. Just one of those days. Yep. I remember that. Right. When, when, when, when. Well, I just think Tiana. I'll answer to that too.

We did boys of the world ain't nothing. Guys of the world ain't nothing. Well, I remember that one too. The answer. That was my song like, yeah, I'm just saying. No, I know. When Will talks about kicking the felon cat, he's giving a reference to this kabboblaeder booblater where, yeah.

Yeah, verse one, he kills the cat. He throws it on the roof and so. Yeah, yeah. Just a lot of bleat roof and a, yeah. Yeah, it's a very violent song. Just like that was the same song. Ain't mean nothing. I got you.

Exactly, exactly. Like, what is double-dick? Charlie Mac asked Breeze open up my show Sunday, and I'm like, I don't think we have enough time. No, I don't mean that disrespectfully. I don't matter, it sounded like that. No, it's just that we have so many artists on. I wouldn't mind.

He opened up for the juice crew battle. He still, and he did every word of discombobody Bulee. Don't get it twisted. Wow. Wow. Yeah, I would if I had the time. I literally have seven acts. And, you know, they put us out of the D.

No. Yeah, I probably won't even, I probably won't even get to MC. I probably be like, I'm next. There you go. Well, I won. I really hope that you seriously start preserving your archives because I mean, you are the history of hip-hop.

So that's important. I am, and I'm going to donate some of them. I wish you could see my, my she cave down here, because I have every- I will be at your house in two seconds. I have every- Every gold album I'm looking at run DMC. I'm looking at LL. I'm looking at Jeff and Will.

I'm looking at this is hip-hop history down here on his walls. I want to ask you beat. So I'm just thinking now, what was your relationship with the pop art guys like Lawrence Goodman? Like what was what was that like? Yeah. Can you tell us what Lawrence? No one wants to talk about Lawrence Gupton. Well, because he'll sue you.

I was just going to say, and either do I, because Will talked about him and he freaking sued him. Because I could tell you some issue. I can tell you. I can tell you, yeah, coming in my house, threatening me and stuff, yeah. See? Is he still alive these days? Is he still? I did see him not too long ago.

He's got all this great hair, this really long beard. I did. But it's a shame that you can't say things because people might sue you. Yeah, man. You never know. People might get super lit scissors. So, yeah, I've heard many a story about, the pop-or days.

But just to let you know, like I said, refer to my sister again, my sister, after them and thought of them as some kind of jokes. She wasn't scared, so I truly wasn't going to be scared. Well, can you just tell Lee Daniels that,

yes, we would watch the movie because I know he's thinking. He needs to do that, yes. He needs to do that. It's funny. Yes, who's funny? Charlie Mac keeps asking him, you should do a movie on Lady B, blah, blah, blah, blah,

He's going to listen. He's going to listen. So who's going to play you, B? Who is it? What's her name? Who's going to be? We're not going to. Who would be, Lady B?

No, we are not. Come on, B. No, we're not. Okay. That's a good one. I'm taking, I'm taking it. I've told you all enough. I'm taking the rest of my grave.

Oh, okay. So you got it in your mind. You just don't want to share it yet. Okay. Y'all are stupid. This has been really cool. It's the first time somebody's hanging up with us. I love it.

I don't want my drum lesson. You can try to deny me all you want, but I want my drum lessons. Okay, okay, okay. I say the time I see you. I don't even say hello. Like, I see him like, where are my drum lessons? Yes, I know.

I don't even say hello first. I know. No, I'm grown. What? And what? I don't have any more patients in the house to take care of. The kids are going, I can actually get me a set and bang out. I say this wake up the neighbor.

I'm going to have to send her a drum set now. Okay. Yeah, you should. Oh, my God, I would die. I would die. That's the, that's a little. the least I can do for you for changing my life. Again, congratulations on your 40 years as a pioneer for changing all our lives. We're all the better for it. And another 40, another 400 years of your

legacy, may it last. We thank you for doing our show. I mean, thank you so much. This has been so much fun. I felt like I just had a whole conversation with my homies. You did. You did. You did what it feel like. Word up. You absolutely. That's what it feels like. All right. Well, I'll see you on the next go around y'all. This is Questlove. On behalf of Lady B. Foncicolo, Sugarstee, Unpaid Bill, and Laiia. All right. See you next time.

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