The Questlove Show - Black Music Month: Wayne Brady Part 1

Episode Date: June 5, 2024

Wayne Brady drops by Questlove Supreme in the studio for an epic two-part interview. In Part 1, Wayne looks back at his upbringing and foray into entertainment. Wayne is charismatic, funny, and still ...incredibly real as he revisits his journey from Florida to becoming a household name across television, music, comedy, and Broadway. This interview also features some basic get-to-know-somebody questions that lead to deeper answers than expected.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clivert Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media.
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Starting point is 00:00:27 Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode.
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Starting point is 00:01:31 Listen to the girlfriends Trust me babe On the Iheart radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast Questlove Supreme is a production of IHeart Radio This is one of those rare moments Where the guest actually knows what's happening
Starting point is 00:01:52 Yeah and he can freestyle And it's really good at you Oh boy No pressure on Wayne Brady Right, there's no pressure. No pressure. Let's go with it. Let me go again.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Suprema, Supra, Supraima roll call. With regrets, yeah. Yeah. I digress. Yeah. That corny rhyme scheme was a hot mess. Roll call. Suprema, sub, sub, sub, subprima roll call.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Suprema, so, sub, Supremma, roll call. My name is Fonte. Yeah. I'm with my bros. Yeah. Hose Dave. Yeah. Dave Holt.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Roll call. Suprema. Suprema. Suprima Roe Kong Supraima Supraima Roe Kong My name is Shogga Yeah
Starting point is 00:03:08 Just wait and see Yeah I'm the big prize Yeah Behind door number three Roecom Suprema Supriva Rolecom
Starting point is 00:03:18 Suprema Suprama I'm unpaid Bill Yeah Let me explain Yeah Fuck the Eclipse
Starting point is 00:03:27 Yeah 100% chance of waning Roecom Nice. Suprema, S-S-S-S-S-S-Rima roll call. Suprema, S-S-S-S-S-Rima roll call. My name is Wayne. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:40 When it comes to improv, Yeah. This is the thing I do. Yeah. It's a great job. Roll call. Suprema, S-Suh, S-S-S-S-S-S-RILL Because y'-all
Starting point is 00:03:51 Because y'-all took on my good stuff, Supraima, R-Call. What it done. Suprima, S-S-S-S-S-S-S-Pribea Ro-R-C-Core. So, sub, sub, supremer roll call. So wait a minute. You really thought you were going to have to, you were trying to choke a bitch on your first one?
Starting point is 00:04:09 No, no, no, no, no. No, but it was so nice that you guys all gave me little nods that I wanted to do something that kind of encapsulated everybody else. Trust me, if you've heard the amount of car crash fails that we had. That was perfect. Well, I'm honored, so thank you so much. That was perfect. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:04:28 I need a rerun on mine. I missed the... No, you were good, man. You know. You got me out of character by calling me Steve instead of sugar. Just, I mean... All right, so... Sugar.
Starting point is 00:04:40 All right. Thank you, Wayne. All right, ladies and gentlemen, I'm sorry. I feel bad for disrespecting sugar. He wants me to now refer to him to the nickname to which... You're always telling me to, you know... To embrace your... To brand, you know, that...
Starting point is 00:04:56 Embrace your brand. Here I am. All right, well, now in 2024, some... Give me my flowers. Yes. Some 15 years after I try to kill you. You know how he got his nickname, Sugarstief? Yeah, Wayne Brady knows how I got my nickname.
Starting point is 00:05:10 A drug deal gone bad? Pretty much. No, he had moved to Philadelphia. Steve has been our long-time engineer on, like, a lot of those records, Common and DiAngelo and all that stuff, back at Electric Ladies. When we... Menomere tried to kill me. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:26 When we left New York to come back, back to Philadelphia, and he was my engineer. Let's just say that Steve just quickly adapted to my very unhealthy eating lifestyle, basically soul food in the day, soul food in the day. And I inadvertently gave this being diabetes, so. So you got the sugar? The sugar. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Ten toes down. House of prayer? And I got theitis. You got one. We'll see. I got the sugars. and the idis at this point. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I don't think you're allowed to say Ida, though, with the jury's out on that. Is he allowed to say I disfonte? No, no. Well, was he ever allowed to go to the cookout? Because if he's been to the cookout, then I guess he could say Idis. Well, he's an engineer to Ergo Badoo records
Starting point is 00:06:14 and two DeAngelo records, so I think he has a quasi. Well, we ate in the church is where we ate. Right. But, you know, getting invited to the barbecues is a whole other thing. Wait, ladies and gentlemen. I'm not invited to the barbecue?
Starting point is 00:06:27 after all this time. But that's a term. When you get a pass to the barbecue, that means that you are right with us. I guess if I don't know what that term means, then I don't deserve a pass at this point. No. Yeah, they don't use it.
Starting point is 00:06:37 It's usually you're not. I get it. Yo, I can tell already Lai is really going to miss this show. Yeah, this is Questlove Supreme and we are in person. In New York, shout out to everyone. This is rare for Lai to step out for cigarettes.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Yeah. This time, you know. She'll be back in future episodes, But I will say that we tried to make this episode happen. I think maybe eight years ago in 2016. I forget what happened, but something went to ride the last minute. But suffice to stay, we're extremely glad that our special guest today, a multi-hyphen guest of ours. He is an Emmy Award winning, five-time Emmy Award winning comedian, an actor.
Starting point is 00:07:27 a singer, a host, a hell of a freestyler. I mean, a real artist, a real creative. And of course, I will say he is pretty much part of the production of one of the play in the movie that has meant so much to my childhood. He's playing the, I don't know, you're the title character. I'm the titular whiz. Right, yes, you are indeed the whiz. Let's also shout out Debra Cox and she's Glinda and Melody.
Starting point is 00:08:00 She's supposed to be here. Bates. Really? Oh, oh, damn. Damn. We need to try to get her. From downtown. There you go.
Starting point is 00:08:08 No, we didn't want Deborah Cox, man. That would have been awesome. Deppar, man, that she's amazing. That cast is amazing. So shout out to them, yeah. All right, so let me see you what your name is. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Wayne Brady. There you all.
Starting point is 00:08:21 For us, Supreme. Okay. Okay, let me just say this much. I had one particular plan for this episode, but I ran across our Dave Matthews episode, which is one of my favorite ones. So I think, because the thing is, I do want to know his craft and his journey, but I feel like it's better suited that we just get to know him as a person. This is a rare opportunity because I feel like people don't know you as a person.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Like they always, of course, say the same thing. Like, oh, it's such a talented. Everything that you've done is amazing. People know that your Steph Curry levels of just shoot it, and it goes in. I don't know. It seems effortless, anything you do. I don't think, is there any talent that you are struggling in? Do you juggle?
Starting point is 00:09:10 No, I can't juggle. That's one of those things. You're making beats. Yeah, yeah, yeah, make beats. Yeah, yeah, produce some. But do you live by, yes and, like, yes. I try to. Even if you can't do it, you'll say like, okay.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Oh yeah, one time on stage, many, many years ago, I think I was like 28. I was doing a show. And someone in a scene, I got challenged to do a backflit because just came up. But it was so fast because you know how an improv scene can just go, like off the rails, you're going, blah, blah, blah, blah. This thing happened.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Someone says this better right. And then they're like, oh, yeah? Well, you do it, but I said, watch this. before I could, I was like, watch this. And I did a backflip, a very ugly, but I did a backflip off of the stage. And I landed it, the first and only time of my life. And that happened. I was like, oh, shit, I did it.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Yes, and. And I look at that whole thing for kind of a metaphor for life, you know, how to just go through. You have to embrace things. Yes, and really is a way to get. things done. Now you can't yes and everything, mind you, but really trying to challenge yourself. Okay, so you had a successful backflip. Yeah. It will never be duplicated again. Ready for the sound effect. It will never be duplicated again. I was like, stall the, stall the. Oh, oh, we have cameras here. Oh, yeah. That's exactly what would happen. No, you would not get
Starting point is 00:10:44 ass over tea kettle will not happen right now. No, no, no. What was that feeling like? because I'm actually envious. I dream of it. It happened so fast that I didn't give my time. So the feeling was in real time, it was like, oh, yeah, watch this. Because I'm still like that. If someone says, oh, I bet you can't or can you? Yes, I spend my life and watch this mode.
Starting point is 00:11:07 So at that second, I didn't even get the feeling until afterwards. I just did it. And then went, oh, I could have died. But it was great. It was great. Wow. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:18 I like that answer. So basically I'm going to ask you just a series of random questions. Okay. And if that causes us to rabbit hole further, then, of course, it's West Love Supreme. So we always do that. Number one, what famous person has your birthday? There is someone. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:11:35 When's your birthday? June 2nd. You're a Gemini? Yeah. My grandma Elsie. Not famous, but okay. There you go. Shut off.
Starting point is 00:11:44 She's got to be famous. She's famous in her town, right? She's famous to me. Right. You're a Jim and I? Yeah. That's what... That's kind of weird, man.
Starting point is 00:11:54 No, it's actually very much on brand for me. Because it's like the reason that I can do what I do and I'm on stage and camera, blah, blah, blah, is because there's that part of me that is the machine that can get up and do that thing. And then as soon as I walk off stage, I will be happy to just blend into the background. I don't talk to anybody. So there's a reason why a lot of people don't know things about me, which I've started. sharing in the past few years, but I'm very much, hey, look over here, but then I quantumly don't want to be, be noticed, you know, at a certain... So you like how to play in sight?
Starting point is 00:12:29 Oh, oh, absolutely. I can turn it on and turn off. I walk into a room, you can bring an energy that folks like, oh, shit, that's it. And then if I want to, I'll sit there in the corner, and you will never know, and I will sit, sit there and watch and observe. And you're doing out with Wayne Brady in a social setting? I've seen Wayne Brady make entrances in rooms and literally like you know because some people know how to use and utilize their umf or their that thing yeah but you're saying that you could also do the opposite yes absolutely but is turning it on as you put it do you consider that at the core of of all the things you do like that skill of being able to turn on a room or to like make people happy, let's say, for lack of a better word.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Yeah. Yeah. Is that kind of what you're most naturally gifted at? That's a thing. Because, you know, like I kind of, I think it goes back to childhood like a lot of, like all of our things. I was always a shy kid. I had a very pronounced stutter at one point because of, uh, they call it what you, now we'd call it a social anxiety or, or stress or whatever.
Starting point is 00:13:43 And so I never wanted to talk a lot. So I was very good at pulling my energy back so you didn't notice me. And I was very socially awkward. I'm still socially awkward if I just let myself really be, which is why I don't talk to people. Because when I approach people that I'm an admirer of or a fan, I immediately have already played the conversation of me. I have to rehearse sometimes. And this is one of the first times I've ever talked about this.
Starting point is 00:14:08 I have such anxiety and never wanting to go back to the kid that stutters and never want to be made fun of. So when I talk to somebody a lot of time, I know exactly, hey, Quest, I'm a fan. I know such and such and such. Great. Now I'm going to go. I don't even want a conversation to go any further. Even if you said, Wayne, let's hang out. You playing your exit already?
Starting point is 00:14:30 I'm already gone because if I go, then I have not given you an opportunity to either go. fuck off kid or to want to talk to me more then I actually have to stand there and have a conversation with you and be vulnerable so it's best for me to just dip out
Starting point is 00:14:51 so that's why I say like when I can turn that thing on I know when I'm going on stage in a room I'm like okay tag Wayne you're in and that Wayne can go in and get the job done so okay I'll ask you this weekend against my own will I went to a karaoke party
Starting point is 00:15:06 Now here's the thing That sounds like hell to me Yeah That sounds like Right and that's the thing All my friends were excited But my friends Don't make a living
Starting point is 00:15:17 Going on stage to perform Yep So I said to them Karaoke's only fun When I hear a car crash Like if everyone sings like Bismarkey or old dirty bastard To me
Starting point is 00:15:29 Karaoke is fun But if I'm in a room With like nine people And they're really trying to kill shit Like, it's just, it's weird to me. Now it's a talent show. Right. Now, the thing was, it actually wound up being exactly that,
Starting point is 00:15:45 but I wound up enjoying myself anyway. Good. Maybe I had an adult fruit chew. I don't know. Could be. Maybe. Maybe I had an adult fruit chew. But I was explaining on the way home,
Starting point is 00:15:59 because they were all worried about, like, my perception, like, all right, we know you hate these things in here, but did you have fun? Did you have fun? and I actually did have fun, but I was explaining to them that in doing my craft, it's easy for me to do it in front of like
Starting point is 00:16:14 1,000 to 5,000 to 16,000 people because it's impersonal. But if I'm performing in a room with just like 10 people, I hate that. Like I freeze. It's super exposed. Yeah. You are the most exposed
Starting point is 00:16:30 because if you're doing something super intimate, then it's, it's a microscope. So do you hate press junkets? Once again, I let the machine do it. You know, I let that part of me take over. I don't know anybody who enjoys press junkets, but I know that I can do them and get through them
Starting point is 00:16:52 and have the answers I need. And on top of it, because I don't want anyone to think that I'm being disingenuous. It's not that I don't like these things. They just, it just causes me such, stress to the point of palpitations that I have to... To this day? To this very day.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Oh, damn! So I have to separate and let the me that can do that, do it. And that guy, oh, he'll talk all day, the president of that. He'll have an answer. He's dope, yeah. And he has fun doing it. He has fun doing it. This Wayne still can't have fun because I know what it's like to open your mouth
Starting point is 00:17:27 and have this thought. Oh, I'm not talking... Oh, shit. I can't. I used to be that friend. Like, I know that thought, process that guy. And that's the thing that brings me that so over the course of my career, I've learned, well, not even career, just life.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I've learned to, hey, this is, you are going to be in this setting now. Boop. Okay, I'm there. And now you can leave. My daughter makes fun of me because she says, Wayne, you'd be friends with so many more people and celebrities and folks. you work with if you weren't so socially awkward and dipped out. I don't keep in touch with anybody.
Starting point is 00:18:08 So I'm there with you. Do you desire to have like, you know, I have a life coach or whatever that's found a weakness of me and that's being friends with people I don't work with? And so I'm being challenged by October to, make friends with at least five males that's very specific to whom aren't on payroll or work with. Now, 95% of the time, I'm hanging with the roots. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Like I consider Steve one of my closest friends. I consider my DJ manager Roo, one of my closest friends, but they're also on payroll. So it's like we're working together. But I do find that I'm very resistant to people that have nothing to do with my life. Like, it's already bad. I got to remember 70 names of just managers and coworkers and that thing. So, but I'm being challenged to find five people that have nothing to do with my life that I trust. And I'm struggling like a motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:19:26 But it's hard. If you can do that. not if, because I'm going to give it to you that you're going to be able to do it. But I can appreciate how that can be hard because much like in dating, even friendships are our relationships, right? So if things are, if those relationships are done with a common bond, I think it's hard for those of us in a certain profession to, you're going to talk to somebody else unless that person is a certain type of person
Starting point is 00:19:53 personality-wise, what do you have in common? what do you have and that makes it hard especially if you are known because then you have to ask yourself well is that person being genuine in this interaction right now and so that that is hard a win is a win a win a win i don't care which i'm saying yep that's me cliver taylor the fourth you might have seen the skits the reactions my journey from basketball to college football or my career in sports media well somewhere along the way this platform became became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music.
Starting point is 00:20:49 The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:21:07 And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galko, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down
Starting point is 00:21:24 what really matters when evaluating draft prospects, from hidden traits teams look for, to the biggest mistakes franchises make, to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice podcast on the Iheart Radio app,
Starting point is 00:21:43 Apple Podcasts, for wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck.
Starting point is 00:22:24 I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to be. care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. There's one thing that I, and this is going to be the weirdest example I'm going to give of me breaking that wall down. So I'm working on a project right now that's basically requiring me to watch a lot of Norm McDonald's material. And I've never seen a comedian embrace failure the way that Norm
Starting point is 00:23:17 McDonald was. And he revealed on one of these podcasts that he was on. They asked him about, you know, those roasts that they do on Comedy Central. So one time for Cloris Leachman, Norm McDonald did probably one of the greatest displays of, a roast to Chloris Leachman, which was basically he decided he was going to eat it. You know, because every comedian comes there like, all right, I got to make a splash. I got to win.
Starting point is 00:23:47 I got to make sure that, you know, people are going to social media clip. Like, everyone's thinking that. And he decided not only am I going to tank this set, but he's going to tank in a way that doesn't offer a wink. Like, you know, a guy like Will Ferrell will purposely do something fucked up. But it comes with the wink, like, I'm doing this on purpose. Yeah, calculated. You know that I'm good, but this is kitsch.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Nah, like, for 20 minutes, everything that Norm MacDonald did was from this joke book of 1940, but like really corny jokes. Hey, Cloris Leachman, you're like a bumblebee in August. Yeah, because you're wearing yellow. So watching Norm MacDonald fail like that in a daredevil way almost gave me inspiration to like, okay, anything that's awkward, I'm just, like Tracy Morgan has that, but it almost in a provocateur way. Like he'll say something uncomfortable and just live in it knowing that it's awkward. But I think this year I've gotten over my, well, people talk shit about me, that sort of thing. And I'm like kind of enjoying doing things that previously would have scared me.
Starting point is 00:25:07 I love to hear that. That's what I've started to do too. In the past few years, I still have that fear and that awkwardness. And my awkwardness is so weird because I will, like I've known Bill for years now, but I don't call Bill all the time. I could call Bill.
Starting point is 00:25:24 I could call Lynn. I could call any of our friends. But I have this story in my head. I was like, no, he's probably busy. bother me. I don't want to bother anybody. So everybody's like, no, Wayne doesn't talk to anybody. And then so the person that wants to be left alone
Starting point is 00:25:39 really then goes, but why doesn't anybody invite me to a party? I want to go to a Quest Love party. I want to go to the C-Fews it. But then it was like, oh no, I don't want to do it. So I decided to try to stop that a couple years ago. Damn! So I was like, I'm not going to do it anymore. So that's why
Starting point is 00:25:55 I've got a docu-series that's on Hulu and freeform starting, I think, in June or July. based on my family. And like it's the first time that I let people really into my life. And that's why like they see backstage, they see my blended family. You know, they see every facet of my life
Starting point is 00:26:14 because I wanted to do something super uncomfortable. I'm like, the most uncomfortable thing for me is to let people see me. But on stage, I don't mind embracing failure. I love that because that's part of the yes-and. I love to suck on stage and then flip it and turn it around and do, I'm a daredevil on stage.
Starting point is 00:26:34 And life is where I'm very much, I'm going to play this safe, I'm going to put it, so I've been trying to do that myself, and I found that in doing that, it's made me an even better actor or a better improviser and to be able to take more chances,
Starting point is 00:26:48 which I thought I was taking chances before. Now, I just don't care. Now I really have reached a place where, let's go. I don't care. I'll do this thing. I don't care. Because as long as I do it, and I feel good, that's what matters.
Starting point is 00:27:03 All right. What is your morning routine? Like the first 20 to 25 minutes. Do you have a morning routine? Easy. I get up and I make my bed first thing. Really? Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:27:19 I hate that. Why? Because you start with success. You complete, for my reality. I feel like I just woke up. So psychologically, that's important to do. Absolutely. You start, you end for me.
Starting point is 00:27:30 At the end of the day, I like coming back to a room that's made. You know what I mean? For me, that does wonders. Does that come from somewhere? Like, as a kid, did you have to make your bed? Was that? Because I had to make my bed as a kid, but for whatever reason as an adult, I find it to be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Well, I had to clean my room as a kid. But, yeah, when I get up, yeah, like, when I'm out of bed, yeah, my first thing, me and my wife, yeah, we make the bed. Like, that's just. Throw pillows on everything. The whole night, smooth it because you set. I make my bed for two reasons. One, you set an intention. And I learned that in therapy years ago about if you, the first place that you have to start is your bed, because then when you pull outwards, if your bed, if your room, if your closet, if your bathroom, if your house, if you, so is your house is your life.
Starting point is 00:28:17 So if your house is messy. Oh, no. Then, then, then, oh, yes. You better clean my thought. Get five friends real fast. That's what I learned. Plus, my dad, you know, I come from a military household. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:28:29 It was also, you know, not like in a great Santini way, but like in a, hey, make your bed. That's how you, because that's what you do. You make your bed and you leave your space clean so that like you, I can come home at the end of a day and I don't worry about it. I know that I am in a weird place or I've spiraled if I come home to a mess because I am, I'm so. That's how you know, yeah. I'm so clean. I'm so clean. Making beds first? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Yeah. I got to... Well, I mean... Not before the first couple of cigarettes. Then you make the bed. Do you smoke in bed? No, no, no. I'm not...
Starting point is 00:29:10 Okay, I was going to say, that's... He smokes in a shower. That's actually a cool movie scene. Now that you say that, I mean, I hate to say that even at this age, my crib... Like, if left alone, my room would look like a frat house, hit it. And I mean, I'm not holding shame back. Yes, I don't have time to do household chores. So every other day I'll have a housekeeper in the crib.
Starting point is 00:29:36 But I do loathe getting home and seeing that sloppy bed that I didn't make. That's my lowest point of life. When I get home on those two days that I don't make my bed and I just walk into it. You know, my pajamas on the floor. See? Because it takes away from the things that you did. accomplished throughout the day. It takes you away from the middle. Yes, because it's a small task, because if you look at the bed as a win, right? So, like, we want to start the day off
Starting point is 00:30:04 with the win. If the world kicks me in the nuts when I leave the house, at least I came back, look at my bed. That bed is so, and I folded it, I tucked, tucked the edge there, and then I've got the military thing, the thing I can bounce a coin. I've got the throw pillows, and then I fold a blanket, and then I leave it on the edge, like sometimes. Come on, man. I love that. I got to confess. I'm so lazy with making up the bed that I don't even sleep. You know, like, you're supposed to pull the covers back. You know, like, you're supposed to pull the covers back and get in the bed and then, like, burrito yourself under the covers?
Starting point is 00:30:42 I'm so lazy. Like, I've been in my apartment for 16 years. To me, one of my faith, why are you laughing at me, Steve? He's been vulnerable right now. Wait. So, for me. I'm laughing on the inside. One of my favorite covers of all time.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I mean, you ever go picnic? Like, I go to Target and get those, like, soft-ass blankets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, basically... We put that on top. I'm also a crasher. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:31:11 I've spent so much time, like, crashing in the front lounge of the tour bus. Crashing in the back lounge of the tour bus. So I'm not a must-be-in-bed type person. Like, where I leave my hat is my home is where I sleep. but even though I'll sleep in my bed I mostly sleep on my bed and we'll just grab my two my rotation I have like a rotation of 10
Starting point is 00:31:37 of those like blankets that I love so you don't have to make the bed really because you just pulled that on top of you but it's still junkie because look at me of course if I turn once and even in that like my bed looks like half made so that's even worse like it's basically six-year-old version of a mirrors
Starting point is 00:31:58 like of a maid bed but it's a win that's the only reason that that sticks in my head that that's a win so do you do anything after you make the bed or is that the end that's just that's where you just I make the bed and I go back to six hours after that
Starting point is 00:32:12 I make the bed and then I brush my teeth I call Mandy my ex-wife slash my business partner I call her we catch up for the day we have projects down the pipeline I check in with with my daughter because she goes to,
Starting point is 00:32:27 to LMU, so I try to catch her before she leaves. Oh, LMEU. Leaves for school, and we get coffee. Okay. We hang out. And then it's whatever craziness comes from the rest of the day. But I have to start my day off that way to give myself some sort of a routine, because I need a routine.
Starting point is 00:32:47 The way my mind works, if you leave me off the leash and I don't have a routine, I'll get up, I'll play video games until 2 o'clock in the afternoon. If I don't have work worker meetings, I will drink my Sprite or lemonade right out the bottle because I live by myself. I'll be in my underwear. I'll play my Xbox until two. I'll get on the phone. I'll basically be the 16-year-old version of myself if he had an apartment or a house.
Starting point is 00:33:16 You're a job and money. And money. Yeah, right? And even as a success, do you still get on yourself if you're not, get up and go? daily, daily. When I tell you... How hard is it to take vacations and not do nothing?
Starting point is 00:33:31 Can I tell you something? And I'll share this with all my brothers here. I'm so excited when I finish my run of the whiz. I think I'm out of the show, maybe June 10th. So you all got to get your tickets to catch me. June 10th. And then knock on wood and all this, I hope to be here for the Tonys.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Then I'm going to take the first trip. Now, I'm 51 years old. I've never, and I've never, And I repeat, I've never, because there was a point in my life when I went places with my grandmother, but, you know, those are family trips. And then when I was old enough to start working, then I'm working and hustling. And then when you get someplace, then I'm hustling, hustling, hustling, and still going. I've never taken a trip in my life just for fun. I've never gone.
Starting point is 00:34:15 So when we finish this, I'm leaving. Wayne, that's a problem. I'm taking my trip on my, I'm taking an eat, love, pray trip. Julie Robbins I'm going to do it Do you know your destinations yet? I've got a couple I think I may want to go to
Starting point is 00:34:30 I want to go to Thailand or Bangkok or I want to see Costa Rica so it depends on one of those or Tokyo because I want to go to one of the Disneylands
Starting point is 00:34:41 All right I got a hook up for you in Tokyo because maybe I've taken four forced vacations in my entire lifetime Wow.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Well, because the thing, again, if you are in a band and you're on the road 200 days out the year, like traveling is not my thing because that's all I do. Right. It's work. Yeah. Like not doing anything and just laying around, being lazy in the house. Like I just got used to that maybe a year and a half ago. But when we first joined Fallon, everybody was like planning vacations and I felt all bad.
Starting point is 00:35:17 And I was like, well, all right, I want to do something special. Oh, I know. I'll be a hobo. So then I got a train ticket from Pittsburgh and traveled all the way across to San Francisco, like, by train. By yourself? By myself, and it was awesome. Now those four trips were they by yourself or with a significant other family? The first time was by myself.
Starting point is 00:35:39 And then I befriended Shep Gordon, who is the guy that, like, you want to know the most connected guy. He was a rock star manager, Luther Vandros, Rick James, Alice Cooper, Ann Murray, like everybody. He kind of is your portal to, like, if you're the guy that's an overworker, doesn't prioritize life, he's the guy you want to know, and he'll force you to take a vacation. So he has like an open door policy in Hawaii. So the other three times have been there. Man, that's the thing, is I've never taken a trip. So I'm going to take this trip by myself.
Starting point is 00:36:19 because I'm single, so I'm like, I'm going to go by myself. I want to find myself. It's never too late in life. And I've kind of adopted this mantra of, look, man, if you kill it on stage, and I've made, made some money, and I've been in this for a long-ass time now, before I leave this earth, I want to have fun. I want to enjoy myself. I think that my thing is I have not allowed myself to enjoy anything. To take joy in. To take joy in, which is that dual blessing of, and then we all,
Starting point is 00:36:49 have the thing of you can bring joy to people, and not to sound like the sad clown shit, but you bring joy to people, that's been my joy. I'm like, oh, good. That audience liked that. Great, I'm good. Or I took care of my family. Y'all are straight, good. If I go to the karaoke party, I want to make sure that everybody, the karaoke party is cool,
Starting point is 00:37:07 and I'm just going to sit back here, because if you guys are cool, but I have no joy in any of those things that have happened. Oh, you're not a, you're not expected to sing at any karaoke party? Come on up. No, no, thank you. No, no, thank you. Because I don't want to look like an asshole. That's a good reason, though.
Starting point is 00:37:24 You don't want to flex that your... Because we do it for real. As soon as you get up there and do it, then it's like, it's like chefs to cook at home. I see. All right. Oh, no, I'm definitely... If you didn't plan it yet, I got people who have done solo trips,
Starting point is 00:37:42 and they're the best planners ever. Wayne, you're going to love vacations day in the hotels they make the bed for you. You don't even have to do that in the morning. Would you believe me if I have stopped the maid from making my bed? Let me do it. Because I think I can do it better. I'm like, I can make my bed better than you.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Yeah, I'm stuck with people that want to clean the house first before the person comes in to clean it or clean the hotel room. Yo, that's real. Those people irk me, man. Sorry. Wait, you? Why?
Starting point is 00:38:14 Yeah, man. Because I think it's just a part of like, you can't y'all ain't about to see me living like this it's a pride thing you know what I'm saying it's a pride thing like when I go to the dentist like my like the day before I go to are you brushing deep what my floss game yeah what I do that go to another dentist to get the cleaning so that you're primary dentist it's like you that's a good idea double dentist I like that yeah that's me I can't pray cleaning on a cleaning I like it what time do you go to sleep how many hours do you get what time is you go to sleep
Starting point is 00:38:48 sleep time. If I'm on my game and my mental health is, is on point. Then back in LA, I try to be in bed now by like 10.30 so that I can get up at six. I had to train myself because I've got to feed my dogs and I was taking my daughter to school. And I never got out of the habit of when I was taking her to high school. So I was up at six promptly. Now I have a hard time. I really don't go to sleep maybe until 1. 1.130. And then I get up at 6. still. Yeah. Yeah, Tariq warned me about that and said,
Starting point is 00:39:21 because, you know, I think there's a thing like once you get out of high school, you think that part of your life is over. Like, now I live a life where I'm always on the first flight, so I am waking up at four in the morning. But, you know, Tariq's like, you think you're done the routine of the dread of school. But he's like, when you become a parent, it becomes worse because you've got to be up before they're up.
Starting point is 00:39:47 and prepare stuff for them and make sure they get dressed. And don't make them late. And don't make them late. Then you're a shitty parent. Then your shitty parent who hasn't made their bed. So you suck all the way around. A win is a win.
Starting point is 00:40:02 A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way,
Starting point is 00:40:16 this platform became bigger than I ever imagine. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment. And the next, we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told,
Starting point is 00:40:45 and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right what you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects, from hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the
Starting point is 00:41:23 players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slice of Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, Never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And Rule 2, never mess with her friends either.
Starting point is 00:41:58 We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands.
Starting point is 00:42:22 I said, oh, hell no. I vowed I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. So Quincy Jones explained this whole idea of alpha time to us?
Starting point is 00:42:50 Alpha state. Alpha state. There's five states that your brains in. Alpha beta, gamma. gamma data Delta And Delta Yes
Starting point is 00:43:02 Actually you're being sarcastic But no I'm assuming it's alpha beta delta Delta something gamma Yeah Yeah it is one more So Nice job sugar
Starting point is 00:43:12 I'm trying my artist The brand trust here I'm like holy shit All right At what time Because creativity is such a major anchor for you At what time do you feel like
Starting point is 00:43:23 Is your most creative moment. Right as I'm going to sleep. It's right as I'm going to sleep. So many things have come to me in my sleep that I immediately get up and I have to write it down or I text the person that I'm doing the thing with. Those are the times. That's when I feel the most fruitful is when I should be sleeping, but my mind is fueled by don't suck, don't fail, you'll go broke, your family get thrown on the street. You'll be horrible. But it's Oh, Fighter Flight tries to come in and scare you. Fighter Flight is with me all the damn times.
Starting point is 00:43:59 I wake up like, this idea will keep you in your house. This will be a good one. That is crazy. Okay, that's dope. What is your go-to order at Starbucks? It is a caramel oat milk latte with four pumps of caramel. inside, caramel around the rim.
Starting point is 00:44:25 You should probably get some caramel on there there somewhere. Oh, see, you're for caramel, caramel. I see, sugar, you're from a different place than I am. So, so needless to say, I don't like coffee, but I like sweet stuff. So, you know, we are the same person.
Starting point is 00:44:42 I hate coffee, yo. I've been saying for years, but I'll drown it for sugar. I will drown it in sugar and everything else because I do like that once again ADHD is real like I don't know for you know folks I never believed in it but I understand now and animal medication the whole nine I get
Starting point is 00:44:59 why coffee doesn't work on me I get why sugar does I get why those things and the mood things so I'm trying to wean myself off of that but I love Starbucks in the morning and you will not believe me you can ask my daughter the one who calls me socially awkward she for years for years
Starting point is 00:45:17 I've said you know I think that Amir and I would be friends because everything that I've read He's looking for friends See you doing your thing Or an interview where you talk about The songs and the movies you said I said that's my friend
Starting point is 00:45:32 How but what the hell this year So I'm just But I'll never call you So you guys are perfect Your kids know the roots are and stuff Are you my daughter's a musician And I actually She knows what's up
Starting point is 00:45:45 Oh she knows what's up For real Yeah Yeah, yeah, that's, oh, well, thanks. No, I believe it too. I would normally avoid... All right, I did have a theory. Good segue.
Starting point is 00:45:56 I had a theory, which was I'm mostly afraid of approaching people from my same ilk. Okay. Because I always think that I bring the value down. Okay, so there was someone that was sort of in a... We were kind of in the similar bucket together. and on the critical angle this person got panned in a way that was a little humiliating. You know what I mean? I mean, it wasn't a takedown article, but it's something that they were passionate about
Starting point is 00:46:30 and they got panned. And I knew about it. And as a person who always prioritized a record review or any review, a concert review, I wanted this person and not take it so serious. But I almost felt like I either overextended, like I felt this person felt that I was judging them in terms of like, oh, you see. Instead of encouraging them.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Right, you saw me. At my lowest. Yeah, you saw me. That's their thing. So they have an issue. Right. And so we were close. And then,
Starting point is 00:47:11 In order for this person to turn, they had to like sort of rebrand themselves. And I think hanging with me was bad for the brand because... What world is hanging with you bad for the brand? That is hilarious. But I, you know, but I also know there's a lot of that. Like a lot of... A lot of you is what I saw in that person. And now that you're saying this stuff, now I'm not taking a person.
Starting point is 00:47:37 I'm like, oh, they didn't want to hang because I just think it's a socially awkward thing or whatever. But now I'm desperate to gather the tribe together to let us all know like, okay, we kind of need each other. Like this is the longest I've going without a movement. Like, even the myth of the soul
Starting point is 00:47:55 querians, but there was a good eight year period where my... Yeah, my daily interaction was with DeAngelo and Erica and Mose and Kuali and Dilla and even the, even the
Starting point is 00:48:10 the outside circle, like, Tip and Depress and Blau, and like, we were, we actually lived up to the myth of what people thought we were. Wow. And then the day we found out, the day that someone gave the marketing away, i.e. that Vibe magazine photo of all of us,
Starting point is 00:48:29 that's the day it went to shit. And ever since then, I've just, I've never gone this long without, like, just somebody to bounce off of. Like, common night, I mean, I, I guess I can give it away. So Common, I'm not going to say any day now, but Common's basically, what I predict, he's probably going to drop the LP that his fan base has really been waiting on. So he went to do a project with Pete Rock.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Wow. And they just hold themselves in the studio together. like, you know, in Pete Rock's basement. And no lie, like, wrote each other to glory. Like, I think that most common fans will say, like, this is going to be his best, like, of his 11 albums, this will be in the top five. Like, that sort of thing. Like, this is going to be somewhere between, and I'm talking about, like, and I'm talking about, like, resurrection, one day at all makes sense fans, like, pre-choccal common. And like, this is, he made that, he made a 1996 record where, you know, Pete Rock, all of his scratch references are either going to be like biz or that type of thing.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Yes, indeed. Biz, King. Right. And so I kind of came in just on, I came in on the 11th hour just to, like, Rosh wanted me to come in and give it the, like, water for chocolate treatment. So I had to put the songs in order and the interludes and all that stuff. So this is going to feel. this is like and just an amazing thing so this is like the most talking and interaction and idea bouncing that he and I have done since like 2004 and I just like I miss that level of camaraderie you know like I like growing and you know I've done food stuff and books and but see he's not a good friend you should reconsider this whole thing he doesn't stay in touch with people
Starting point is 00:50:35 Anyway, seven, what is your favorite junk food of all time? Damn. My favorite junk food of all time, if you're talking candy, because I really don't eat candy, but you're talking to candy, peanut M&Ms, specifically the peanut M&Ms, because I crack them open, I take off the top, and I take out the nut. And you go through layers. I take out the nut, and then I'll just throw away the chocolate sometimes. You weirdo.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Whoa. What? Because I like how the peanut taste with the chocolate. I like it's infused, but I don't like all of the chocolate that's on the thing. So I like how it tastes. I want to see how influenced you are. Do you remember there was an M&M's commercial, like maybe in the late 70s in which this guy, it's like a magician guy, and he gets an M&M and he takes it out and it's another color,
Starting point is 00:51:32 and then he breaks the M&M. Oh, yeah. Like, do you remember that commercial? I absolutely remember what you're talking about. So I also, I think it's a waste to take Eminem's and just eat them straight. Because there's so much there. It's a little gift. You guys surprised myself.
Starting point is 00:51:49 A little gift. Let me find out y'all eat Kit Kat sideways and some shit. Well, the Kit Kat now. How do you do your Kit Kat? What's your Kit Kit Kat? You're like French kissing your Eminemps. You have to break it open to get the layers. I don't eat it.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Like I do the chocolate first, and then once the cookies left, then I eat the cookie. Yes. Yeah, yeah, like I take it aside, hmm, chocolate, and now I can eat the cookie. Because to just eat the whole thing. You like the Japanese Kit Katz, like the line green looking joints. I have a collection of, like, wasabi Kit Kat or something. The Japanese junk food is amazing. There's a spy in Brooklyn that I recommend.
Starting point is 00:52:28 There's a Japanese kind of supermarket in Williamsburg. that has, like, ghost pepper kickats, green tea, kick cats, strawberry kick cats, like all the kits cats that you will find in Tokyo. Oh, there's ghost pepper. Oh, there's ghost pepper tic-tac, yo. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:52:48 It's like, are you even meant to enjoy that? It's just like... It's the challenge of surviving. My favorite thing is going on YouTube and looking up. You remember that one potato chip that's allegedly supposed to put you, like, in the ground? Like, it's one ghost pepper chip, but, you know, people do the tasting challenge and then there's normal.
Starting point is 00:53:09 This is not hot to me. And then five minutes later, they're like writing their will out. We did it during the pandemic. And when I say we, it wasn't me. It's Mandy's the whole chip. I didn't do it. Mandy's, the partner, Jason, he did it because we were bored. It was the frigging, you know, we're locked in the house.
Starting point is 00:53:28 He's like, oh, this is, I love hot stuff. And I'm like, are you sure? Yeah. Fine. And then I saw that man devolve. From into, uh, and milk and water, and then crying and then the puking and the crying some more and then some more milk. I was like, yeah. So I'm very well acquainted with that chip.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Wait, what food is your hometown famous for? I'm going to say that I don't know on this one because. I was raised in Orlando, Florida. I'm from Orlando. So I don't really, I don't think Orlando has a cultural identity like that. I was raised in Orlando. What is it like to grow up in a Disney? Yeah, in a town where like everything's an amusement park.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Well, when I was coming up, it wasn't really that way yet that so many things were focused around Disney because Orlando was a smaller town. but the first thing that folks didn't know is that Orlando has hoods, right? So you have the places where you think oh, Disney that are, if this is Disney, there's a ring and there's a place
Starting point is 00:54:40 called Kissimmee. So you're either a redneck that you live out here or you're very wealthy Windermere, Bay Hill, all these places where you know, once the basketball team came in and Disney engineers and folks with money. And then out here
Starting point is 00:54:56 you had my place, Tangelo, Park and Carver Shores, basically any place that was named after a president or a citrus fruit. Right. It was all black. And so my experience growing up was very different from, I guess, someone that might be grown up there now because there was such a division of. So you didn't have a fresh off the boat experience, the version of Orlando?
Starting point is 00:55:19 No, because theirs was slightly after mine. So the strip malls started in like the late 80s, early 90s. I was already a teenager at that point. But when I watched fresh off the boat, when he would go to the Florida Mall, that's where I used to go when I was, you know, like 16. So it started to get better then. So I don't think that we really had a cultural food.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Orlando's not known for anything, really. Its identity is kind of want-want. Did you ever work at Disney or? Absolutely. Okay. Yeah, I started off as a character because my whole dream was to be a kid of the kingdom, which was one of the singer-dancers
Starting point is 00:55:55 that would sing and dance out in front of the castle. So my way in was I auditioned for the Disney Christmas parade. And I got cast as a toy soldier and then I trained as a character. But that was merely so I could get in the park and audition as a singer and a dancer. So I did that for about six months. And a weird side note, Jennifer Lopez's ex-husband, Chris Judd, was my best friend. So we, like back in the day, we danced together and the whole thing before we became a Janet dancer and became a successful choreographer. So I worked at Disney at that point.
Starting point is 00:56:27 And then I finally got cast to do a show called Rap and Roll, where I was going to be the lead singer. It was like, this is it. And then I'm going to do-da-da. And then I came in on my day off because Chris didn't want to mess up his hair and put on a Tigger outfit. And long story, made short, I got involved in some someone accused Tigger of pinching their kid.
Starting point is 00:56:48 I was like, I can't pinch your kid because I got on oven mitts. And I got into it with this supervisor. So I think it was a whole thing. She tried to bully her way to the front of the line. and as Tigger, I was like, mm-mm, do-mm, da-da-do-do. And she's like, I'm going to, Tigger, Tigger, Tigger, do you know who I am?
Starting point is 00:57:06 I was like, nope, I don't know, I don't give a shit. So then she's like, we'll see Tigger, we'll see. Wow. But two, I get called into the supervisor's office. Wayne, we've had a report that a child was pinched, that you pinched him and you stopped him from getting in line. I was like, that didn't happen. What happened was this other supervisor?
Starting point is 00:57:28 I'm afraid that we're going to have to put you on leave. And you know that that's just cold for as soon as you go on leave. And I was so pitiful. All I wanted was that one job in that rap and roll show. I said, but, but, but, holding the tears back. But, but tell me something, please. If, if I go on leave and you do your investigation, will I still be able to start rehearsals on Monday?
Starting point is 00:57:52 Oh, no. No. So I lost out on that chance. So I did work at Disney, but then getting fired from there was a blessing. To get fired from your dream job. It was a blessing because then I got hired at Universal, and I did every show at Universal, the Beetlejuice Rock and Roll Show, and all this stuff, and that gave me enough money to head out of Orlando.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Fast forward, years later, when I got Who's Line, I was part of this Disney parade experience, and they fly you down. You know what they do. They do it big. It's amazing. The person who was assigned as my guide. Did you get petty? The person who was assigned as my guide.
Starting point is 00:58:26 I got into the park, Hello, Wayne. It's name redacted because I don't want to embarrass her again because I've told the story before. She's like, Wayne, we're so proud of you. I went, and I turned to Mandy, I was like,
Starting point is 00:58:40 Mandy, remember that story I told you about when I was 16? I'm petty as hell. Remember that story? This is the lady who had me fired. She's like, oh, I was like, yes. Oh, it's so great to be back.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Wow. Lead us on. show me the park wow that's sweet i love it that's sweet revenge i love it that's so crazy which show are you tiggers revenge well i was going to ask uh because for those that follow succession on the the pilot cousin gregg had to go through that where you know kids are and that's the thing i don't think about like how kids can torment you when you're in those costumes and want to kick you and all those things. The stories I have.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Oh, yeah. You think that's just going to be a thing like your Mickey. So to be Mickey Mouse or something, like you got to have literally balls of steel. Yeah, because you're being punched and kicked. And at least for me, I really enjoyed the job because for me it was an opportunity to work on my improvisation. So I would come up with scenarios and talk to the other characters before we went out on to Main Street or wherever your set was and say, hey, so in this one, you find a tourist and my job is I'm the Secret Service. So I'm going to protect her. Your job is you're trying to assassinate her.
Starting point is 01:00:14 So we would spend the whole set acting these things out. And so I was using it for that. So I liked it, even though kids would pull on the PVC pipe tail, because the Tigger tail used to be strapped with a little belt around your back, and it's a PVC pipe, it's curved, and kids would go, oh, okay, and it was a dip. So kids would either jump in the dip and sit on it, and you can't see anything, because your world is here, your world is here, and so you can't see if a kid is like, take it, take it, and you go, and you fall back, and you bust your ass.
Starting point is 01:00:48 or they take the tail and they crank it and they either break it. So sometimes to clear a path, occasionally, if they were grabbing on to me, I would do, what was I, reach back? Excuse me, and just keep it moving. And just keep, sometimes you'd have to do that. Not to hurt and hurt anybody, but just like, just move. The door, the door stop. A win is a win. A win is a win.
Starting point is 01:01:16 I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the fourth. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes,
Starting point is 01:01:40 creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life. mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger.
Starting point is 01:02:01 So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. This week on the Sports Slice podcast,
Starting point is 01:02:18 It's all about the NFL draft, and we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar, this is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, for wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 01:02:50 And for more, follow Timbo Slice of Life 12 and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield.
Starting point is 01:03:17 And in this new season of the girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no.
Starting point is 01:03:36 I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What television show are you currently binging? Currently, I'm binging the gentleman on Netflix. Guy Ritchie's the gentleman.
Starting point is 01:04:07 I got to check it. It's good. I like it's real good. I'm nervous because I feel like if you got to put your name in the title, it's better than the movie. And I like the movie. But it depends on if you like Guy Ritchie because he has a thing, right? So I like Guy Ritchie. It's written really well.
Starting point is 01:04:25 The cast is awesome. It's, yeah, it's, it's great. I love it. So I'm binging that, and I, and I just binged Invincible. Because I'm also a big animation nerd. That's my shit. Invincible. What?
Starting point is 01:04:40 Invincible. On Amazon. What is it? It's super violent, like, anime. It's based on, you know, the boys, right? Yeah. So, so it's still in that same world of these superheroes, but Invincible. His father is from another planet.
Starting point is 01:04:54 He's a vitramite. A vitramite. He's like, Superman. So think of Superman. The most powerful man, like the most powerful dude. And everybody loves him. Everybody loves him. He's also a member of this league, the Guardians of the Globe. Everybody loves him. He's the most powerful guy in the world, blah, blah, blah, blah. Come to find out, well, I don't want to spoil it. Well, it's not really, really a spoiler because you can look it up. He really, the vitrimites, really, their whole thing is domination. So he was sent there to Earth to take over one vitrimic and take over the whole planet.
Starting point is 01:05:23 So he impregnated a human, fell in love with her. and was waiting for their son who now is a teenager and upon his 16th birthday. So dad's just like, do you have powers yet? Do you have powers? Do you have powers? He has powers. He's like, you've got powers.
Starting point is 01:05:36 So you think it's a coming of age story of this boy, Mark, who is coming into his own greatest American hero style. Oh, I can't fly. Wobble, everything. And then it turns into great, son, you've got your powers. Time to kill all these balls. Kill everybody.
Starting point is 01:05:53 He runs ragged through the Guardians of the globe. He just marvel. No, image. Right? Animated? Yeah, it's animated. Yeah, it's like, yeah. Based on the, the comic book, right?
Starting point is 01:06:03 The graphic novel, the comic. And what streaming service is? It's on Amazon. Amazon Prime Video. It's amazing. Nah, no, that's hard. Visible is hard. All right.
Starting point is 01:06:12 I am on it. I will watch that. What other non-musical jobs have you had in your life? Well, well, I haven't had a lot, but they were formative. For a couple months, because I wanted the disqualment. account, I worked at a place called KB toy stores. I don't know. You want to KB. I worked at KB. I worked at KB. A friend of mine from high school named Kenny, shout out to Kenny, got me the job there. It was right after high school, and I was working at Disney part-time, but it was right after
Starting point is 01:06:44 high school, and my mom made me get a civilian job because she didn't believe in the acting thing, and I'd already turned down a few scholarships to a bunch of schools and the opportunity to audition for, like, the Yale School of Drama and a bunch of other. stuff because I said, no, I just want to do this. And I was hardheaded. I hated school. I said, I want to do this. I got great grades. Buy them out. She said, and my folks are from the U.S. Virgin Islands, you know, so Island folk.
Starting point is 01:07:08 She was like, if she didn't. What island? St. Thomas. From St. Thomas and St. Croix. Damn. I used to live in Frenchman's Reef. Oh, long ago. Yeah, I got family there. I got family there. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:18 So it was like, well, then you're going to take your eyes and get a job, and then you're going to go to school time until something happened. So I said, okay, fine. I worked at KB Toy Store because there was also, I forget, that's when the Nintendo first came out. So I was like, all right, I'll work there. Kenny got me the job. I'll work there and I'll get the discount and maybe I can do it. But there was a buddy of mine who, I have to admit for 10 seconds, I had a larcenous thought.
Starting point is 01:07:44 He was like, yo, you work at KB? Come up. That new Nintendo joint coming out. What you can do is, do you do the stock? Yeah, you do the stock. You drop that shit around back. Drop two of them shits. I'm going around back.
Starting point is 01:08:04 I'll pick them up. You claim it as a loss as a theft. It's like, no, I'll give it to me a bet. That's insurance. I said, that's what insurance before. I almost did it. I got the job so I can get the discount. And then I had a thought about taking a Nintendo.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Never took it. Dude couldn't get his Nintendo. Didn't happen. But I felt so bad that I told Kenna. It's like, look, man, I can't work here. because I think if I stay here like another week, I might steal Nintendo. Now I'm just being real.
Starting point is 01:08:30 I might take it because I'm broke. So I'm gonna leave. You were there for Nintendo. I was there, it was later. I was there for the Tickle Me Elmo. That's right. You have the same story. That shit was nuts, dog.
Starting point is 01:08:41 That shit was insanity, bro. Yeah, yeah, and it was, yeah, that shit was crazy, man. It was South Square Mall in Durham and gave me toys. Someone gifted me a Tickle Me Elmo this year for my 53rd birthday. They still make it? No, it was, you know, like... So between Wayne and that, you only need two more friends.
Starting point is 01:09:02 We are closing the gap. Great progress. Yeah, it was a very random gift to give me, but this person is like a vintage toy collector, whatever. Oh. Remember it's like some post I put on an okay player, like back in 2001, 2002, whatever, about tickle me Elmo and so on.
Starting point is 01:09:19 That's got to be worth something now. Nah, straight up. Yeah, it'd be worth something now. Yeah, they went all out for this one. KB and the other job is I worked at a place called Malibu Grand Prix and video games. Not Malibu here, but in Orlando, which basically means nothing, because it was just to make it sound fancy. So I cleaned the bathrooms.
Starting point is 01:09:40 I made hot dogs and hamburgers and fries, and I checked the video games, and I serviced them. What do I know about servicing video games? And I would give you tokens if your tokens were lost. Insurance. Insurance. I'd be the guy that would have. Now that one, that one, that one, scam.
Starting point is 01:10:02 That one, we did have a system scam. We're like 20 odd years, like more. Like that was in. Yeah, the great spirit's going 80. 9, 90. Yeah, so, so, yeah, so customer, oh, you know, I lost two coins in Zivius. It's like, oh, you did for, thank you. And then you have coins to pay.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Okay. You mentioned video games earlier, man. What's you run? What you run? Right now, Call of Duty. Okay. I'm modern warfare three. I'm on a team.
Starting point is 01:10:33 We're not very good. So I spend most of my time playing zombies. Okay. And I play Destiny on my PS5, and I've just gone back to old school Halo. Ah, okay. So you're first-person shooter. Oh, first-person shooter all day.
Starting point is 01:10:48 All right. Do you journal? Not like I should. I'll start to, and then it's too much. I'm like, oh, I don't want to write down all of my thoughts. Oh, in case you die, man, it's left over. Yeah, I don't want folks to know shit.
Starting point is 01:11:03 But instead of journaling, I do voice notes. If you check my phone in that voice note app, I've got all these voice notes that is my audio journal. An unknown, like, do you, are you too lazy? I'm too lazy to mark off what it is. I label my own. I trust the fact that if it's a song idea, I'll be like, uh, da, da, da, great.
Starting point is 01:11:22 And it'll say, Santa Monica Hill. 11308. Like, oh yeah, that was two weeks ago. I was in the showers, so that ought to be this one. That's why they do that. Okay. Also, Lee doesn't text. He just, he sends long voice memos to you.
Starting point is 01:11:36 So if you send him a text, he'll respond with a really long voice memo. Or a video, because texting is, I'm like, I don't, hey, hey, hates me, man, what's going on? I was going to ask, what's your preferred form of communication, texting, calling, or FaceTime? FaceTime and voice memo. most. FaceTime. All right, that means you have kids.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Because I don't know. I feel like FaceTime was really invented for kids. And for hookups. Houses to prove where they are. Spouses, proof, and for hookups. Let me see your face. Okay, wait a. Hi.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Oh, click. No. Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right. Who is your best celebrity? pretty impression. Wow.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Off the top of my head, I can't think, because I know I do do some, but they come up in the moment. Okay, I'll do one that I guarantee you that no one on your show has ever done. Okay. I have a super unique impression. This is an impression of,
Starting point is 01:12:43 if you've ever seen Mary Poppins, it's an impression of her uncle, the one that would float away. Now, do you guys know who I'm talking? You're talking about in the movie. I know you're talking about this is so fucking random. Now, on top of that, just picture me in my hood, which is why I think I kept my mouth shut because I got tired of fighting folks.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Right. My weird ass, that's the stuff that I was watching, and cats are watching Starsky and Hutch, and I want to talk about Mary Poppins or Masterpiece Theater. So, so this is... And Allison, I'm Alistair Cook. Right. Dude, I, Caesar, the Julius Caesar thing, and upstairs downstairs, changed my life. That's where I learned to do a British accent. Okay, so I digress.
Starting point is 01:13:28 So this is the impression. Boys and girls, if you haven't seen Mary Poppins, just fast forward to this. The only brother who does this impersonation. All right, hit me. How is the Bethlehem? Oh, my name. Thank you. Wow. Osco-worthy. How did you know you had that one in you, Wade? It's really good impression. I never got asked to do impressions before whose line or something, but when you get thrown something, all of a sudden you realize, oh, I've got that in my back pocket. Yeah, yeah, backflip. Once.
Starting point is 01:14:04 Now I try it for the whiz. I was like, whop, didn't work out. Why is Wayne not in the show? Long story. Were you a Monty Python guy at all? Did you, did you, why? Yes, Monty Python came in my mind. It was like a junior year when I started hanging out with all of the white kids in the drama
Starting point is 01:14:21 department. Yeah. Ben, and I discovered Monty Python on PBS. Monty Python. Faulty Hill. Faulty Towers. Benny Hill, Faulty Towers. There was a sketch group called The Goodies.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Okay. And that's where I learned a lot about sketch and an absurdist humor from watching Monty Python. Were you, you speaking sketch humor, missed the show. Did you? All day. Okay. Dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:45 Can I tell you? All right. Four days ago was David Cross's. 60th birthday. And they organized a live Mr. show reunion. Wow. Cross,
Starting point is 01:14:59 Odin Kirk. The main five of the show, they just got on stage and just, and it wasn't even planned, but... Do you know if it's true? Because I kind of know this guy's name, but I forget.
Starting point is 01:15:11 I did a show with him once years and years ago before Whose Line called Quickwits, based out of Chicago. There's one guy who was in the Mr. Show cast. So I forget his name. So if you know the Mr. show lineup,
Starting point is 01:15:25 tall, dark-haired guy. The real tall one. Real tall. He was supposedly, right? Like I'm saying allegedly, because this was what was going around and they posted his picture, he was at January 6th.
Starting point is 01:15:39 What? Yes. That's what I'm saying allegedly. That's what we got to look that up because I'm not saying, because I don't want to go spread anything. It's like, when Wayne Brady said, and all of a sudden, you try to sue me.
Starting point is 01:15:50 You know what? Yo, I read that in Huffington Post. Yes. Maybe three weeks ago or a month ago or something like that. Because they're persecuting all of those cats. Like they're actually going through the Rolodex. And I remember being so shocked because, you know, in our little world of arts and actors and singers. It's like, we're all.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Liberal and we love and what. So it was so foreign to me that someone that I sat down and broke bread with and we made funny and said stupid jokes together would be at the capital like, burn it down Trump all the way I was like what does that have to do with the jumps you made on Mr. show?
Starting point is 01:16:27 Wow. And air quotes, one of the projects I'm working on like all the common denominator of all the projects I'm working on is all my interview subjects are like over the age of 75
Starting point is 01:16:39 and some of them will stick to the subject for which I'm asking them and then some will somehow use the question I'm asking them to pivot and to other areas and one particular guy
Starting point is 01:16:53 was just burning to let me know that, you know, when I started, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, you know, I was a liberal Democrat, but, you know,
Starting point is 01:17:03 after so many years of making fun of Ronald Reagan, then suddenly, boom, like, you know, I'm proud to say I'm MAGA and all this stuff and just,
Starting point is 01:17:14 it just, it went super rogue. And I was like, no, I just wanted to just, know, like, did you like grilled cheese sandwich? Right, that was it. Well, I liked them when America was great.
Starting point is 01:17:26 Yeah. That's when I liked it. The cheese tasted better. American cheese. It tasted so much better. Nobody ever burnt their toast. It wasn't black. No.
Starting point is 01:17:35 White toast. So, white toast. So, toast sneaking across the border, trying to jump in my soup. Making racist analogies to food. Any reason to go there. Yeah. So what, in your opinion, is, the best cereal of all time.
Starting point is 01:17:53 Easy. Cinnamon toast crunch. I can't do it, man. But now, here is my... Wait, you're a cinnamon toast crunch guy? I love cinnamon toast crunch. See, everyone that I ask this question to, for me, there's two generations of the 70s.
Starting point is 01:18:09 I'm a 71 guy, so I feel like I'm the... And I'm 72. Right, so you're supposed to be on my side of the fence. Every cinnamon toast crunch guy person I know is post-76. Like, what's your cereal? I'm a Captain Crunch person. Okay. Not Crunch berries, just Captain Crunch.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Oh, oh, the crunch. Peanut butter. Okay, see, you said the best. Now, if you would have said, Wayne, what's your pantheon of cereals? I would have said. That's a big word of here. You're like, they like stand up up here. I would have said Cinnamon Toes Crunch.
Starting point is 01:18:43 I feel seen. Because I love the hack that I eat Cinnamon Toast Crunch with with with, with, uh, with, uh, Lucky Charms, or sugar-frosted flakes. You mixing shit? Oh, I'm a scientist. When you mix cereals, you feel like a genius. All of the things, all of the cereals that my mom either couldn't get me or couldn't afford, I made the decision when I moved out of the house at the age of 20, I will always buy my cereals.
Starting point is 01:19:09 I have a cereal thing. Steve, and you can open more than one box at a time. And I can open boxes. Do you see what's happening? I can do all I wanted to do. No, man. I told you, this is a cereal at first sight. This is Jacob in Esau in the good years is incredible.
Starting point is 01:19:24 This is Cain and Abel. Before they went down here. Before the Tiff. Right. Right before. This Cain and Abel in their 20s. Snapcrumc, and pop, you need to find the third brother. You both finally found a friend.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Peanut Butter, Captain Crunch, it's the best one because of how it made the milk. I couldn't eat Crunch Bears because it was too much of a berry taste. It was too much of a berry taste. So I like to mix all of the cereals. We're the same person, man. When I first started touring, the Beastie Boys taught me everything about touring. And so at Rock and Mike D taught me how to, like, give them a rider. The rider.
Starting point is 01:20:01 And they told me, like, when you get a writer, make sure you get toothbrush and toothpaces every city. Always. Get a liquid soap. Get, like, they told me everything to get. And they said especially ask for, like, food items that aren't backstage food stuff. So you eat on a tour bus. and dude the level like I now know how I ballooned up to 430 pounds back in the day is because I would come home with at least 70 boxes of cereal intact
Starting point is 01:20:33 I just I took it to the wrong level so that's what I call being grown is the fact that I can eat whatever cereal that I want to that is such a joy that is such a joy yeah wow All right. Can you name me your childhood bully? Wow. Yes. These aren't random questions. No.
Starting point is 01:20:58 This is good. This is good. Okay. Because I always get caught up in. Do you say names because you don't want folks to get mad? But I'm not saying, you know what? I'm not saying anything that isn't true, and it's my recollection of events. You don't want a name.
Starting point is 01:21:11 He's going to come kick your ass though. No, not now. Not now. Not now. Hey, we're both too old to be fighting. B, I'm strong as hell And C, I got lawyers So D, fuck y'all
Starting point is 01:21:25 So, so yeah Actually, there's a two-part question Okay, the real question is Talk shit to your child of a bully For 10 seconds Yo! You, talk your way. Talk your shit.
Starting point is 01:21:41 All right. So it depends on, okay, so I wrote this whole story that I've done on stage stage about this one girl named Tisa, and I don't believe that she's no longer with us, so I'm not speaking Ail of the
Starting point is 01:21:55 Dead. I'm just, no, no, no, no, no, not Tisa, Nikki. Okay. I'm named Nikki. She lived, Cat, a corner. Tisa lived across from me. Tisa Grady lived in the other house, and Nikki lived over here.
Starting point is 01:22:11 Nikki was one of those girls that she was just an exceptionally tall girl at an early age. Right. But, even when we were teenagers, she was still, I was like, oh, you, you are bigger than me. So for whatever reason, I didn't fit into this one thing. And it was popular to make fun of me because I had my grandparents' accent. And so. The islands. And yeah. And so at that point, the Jamaicans and Haitians were coming over to Florida. And so they would sing the, oh, Wayne, you're Jamaica make. And I was like,
Starting point is 01:22:43 I'm not Jamaican. I'm a Jamaica funk. That's what. And do all this shit. And out fighting. and blah, blah, blah. So the best way to make a bully happy is to talk back so they have an excuse to fight you. Nikki was a bully. I'm not saying Nikki was a bad person. We were kids. I will say that. Hey, it's okay. Y'all were kids.
Starting point is 01:23:00 Nikki would fight me because, hey, I'm going to pick on the smaller kid because I was also small, former age, until to land, my growth spurt. So she would like to fight me. Until the day when she chased me up into my yard, into my door, Mama, mama, let me in. And my grandmother,
Starting point is 01:23:17 looked outside. She said, no. Wayne, what's wrong with you? Mama, Nikki's fighting. Michelle, you run back outside
Starting point is 01:23:23 and you beat us. So I was like, and up until that point, Wayne, never hit a girl. Right. You don't fight. It's beneath you.
Starting point is 01:23:34 Don't fight, blah, blah, blah. But now she's telling me to fight. So that was the first time that I got and I took a stick and the fight ended. Because, oh, I'm so glad you ended it that way.
Starting point is 01:23:45 Oh, yeah. Because I'm not. Because even in real life, anybody's like, come on, bro, I got, mm-mm. If you were threatening my life, then we need to end it quickly so I can go back to my family. So, Nikki bullied me, we had an issue. There was a dude named Anthony. Anthony also bullied me. He would say all sorts of shit.
Starting point is 01:24:05 And a dude named Alan, try to push me up against the lockers. They all got the stick. Alan, Anthony, the preacher's kid, Julian. Julian. God there. Julian was trying to make up for stuff, you know, because Julian was light skin, so Julian had to act. Oh, over-combitantory. It's always the light-skinned dude who's like, what's up, fool?
Starting point is 01:24:26 He's like, but you? So I remember Julian tried to fight me when I got off the bus to somebody. You know, I said, your mama, uh-uh. You said my mama, I didn't beat his ass. He says, he's like, I'm a bitch. Julian, you don't have to do this. Oh, I have to do this. And then we got into a fight.
Starting point is 01:24:42 So Julian to those guys, and now here's the 10 seconds of talking shit. Oh, I forgive you. That wasn't it. Look, I forgive you because we were kids, but here's the thing. This is that I think you... Do they know who you are now? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:55 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So, look, the thing is, I don't hold one piece of a grudge against anybody who was a childhood bully because I've now learned everybody was going through their own thing. So I hope that each of you, we're all in our 50s now. I'm still younger than y'all because I skipped a grade because I'm smart as hell. So I wish you all the very best. And I hope that your lives have been awesome and that when you talk to your kids or your friends, hey, I know that dude on TV.
Starting point is 01:25:21 Remind him that you were the dude that shoved me up against the locker that made me want to become successful, that I left Orlando for, that I moved out to L.A., that I kicked ass, and now I do what I do. So thank you very much. So my talking shit is actually gratitude. Yeah. Bars. What's up, y'all? This is on Papeed Bill. We're stopping part one there because, well, come on.
Starting point is 01:25:42 Stay tuned for part two of Wayne Brady on Quest Love Supreme next week or look at your podcast. In that, he talks about the famed Chapel show sketch, working on whose line is it anyway, and his foray in the game show hosting. I've known Wayne for many years, and there's so much I learned in this in-studio sit-down. The whole team thoroughly enjoyed this. Oh, last thing, if you listen this far, please rave, review, subscribe, and spread the word about Questlove Supreme. You all make this possible. Peace.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Questlove Supreme is a production of Iheart Radio. For more podcasts from IHeart Radio, visit the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits,
Starting point is 01:26:33 my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Cliford Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.
Starting point is 01:26:48 So let's get to it. Listen to The Cliford Show on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East-West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar.
Starting point is 01:27:20 This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice Podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slical Life 12 and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed. I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves.
Starting point is 01:27:52 We always say that trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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