The Questlove Show - Historical Records: Bill Russell (feat. Jalen Rose)

Episode Date: February 21, 2025

What does it take to win 11 NBA championships AND to play a meaningful role in the civil rights movement? Nimene finds out with a brand new hip-hop track about Bill Russell, the legendary player/coach of the Boston Celtics. Featuring an interview between former NBA star Jalen Rose and a 14 year old basketball fan from Detroit named Messiah.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-heart podcast. Guaranteed human. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits,

my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, the Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.

So let's get to it. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar.

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Good people, good people. Hello. This is Questlove. And in honor of Black History Month, on Fridays, we'll be releasing episodes of historical records. My podcast with The Story Pirates. It's an explosive fusion of hip-hop and history, tailor-made for music-loving kids and families. Yes, something for the entire family that you can listen to and enjoy it together. All right. Now, in today's episode, Nemone finds out what it takes to win 11 NBA championships

and to play a meaningful role in the civil rights. movement. You'll hear a brand new hip-hop track about Bill Russell, the legendary player coach of the Boston Celtics, and a great interview between former NBA star Jalen Rose and a 14-year-old basketball fan from Detroit named Messiah. So get your kids, sit back, and enjoy historical records, the show that proves that in order to make history, you have to make some noise. My fault. How was it in my business? It's certainly not my fault, so it must be yours. Nothing in this lab ever works for me.

And it's not like I can call anybody to fix anything when the phones are always broken. And exploding. The phones are always exploding. You know what? I've had it with this. I'm the one that has to live in a secret underground bunker slash laboratory with harsh lighting, leaky pipes, and that phantom train sound. Are no train tracks four miles? Where is that coming from?

That's it. I'm taking it upon myself to fix every single thing wrong with this place. This whole lab is getting nimified. Or nimamified? Maybe nimiphas. You know what? Naming things isn't my strong suit. This whole place is getting a makeover.

Historical. Rack, wreck, wreck, wreck. Make history. Got to have struggle to make history. You got to show poise. Cannot be quiet, loud as a riot. To make history, got to make some noise. Welcome back to historical records, the show where I dig into the historical records

in order to produce historically themed records, which are like digital music files, except you can accidentally spill your drink on them. Today's episode is all about legendary basketball icon Bill Russell. But before we get to Mr. Russell and his... 11 championship rings, I'm just putting the finishing touches on my own personal modifications to the laboratory phone lines. All it took was 64 empty soup cans, 32 discarded piano wires, and 16 milliliters of excess elbow grease. I should really see an elbow doctor. But before that, let's try making a call.

An historian. Lee! It's Nimini. From work? Looks like the phones are finally working. Oh, so this is a phone. I was wondering why the empty soup can in my room was ringing, and why all my soup disappeared? What's up?

I didn't think I was in the Bill Russell episode. Oh, you're not. You're just in this part. Oh, okay. I'm always happy to get some nice, meaty lines. Or should I say? That's enough for now. See you next week.

With all my modifications, this place is really starting to feel like a bunker of my very own. I've got the soup can phones, the nimmony neon ambient lighting, And I've even got custom stickers with my name on it. Stickers slap! I don't even mind the fact that all these stickers say historical records with mimony instead of nimony. The important thing is that the laboratory isn't falling apart anymore.

Laboratory self-destruct sequence startified. Self-destruct! Startified? No! Time to hit the emergency override shutdown. Hammer smash! Laboratory self-destruct sequence Stopified. Robot voice? What was that?

Stopified is a new word I'm trying out, mimony. It's Nimmini with an N. Not according to these unauthorized stickers. Your modifications to the laboratory have resulted in 11 code violations. Since when do you care so much about code violations? The year was 1992. Acid wash, jeans, and grunge music were all the rage. I meant in the context of what's happening now.

Understood. Every secret laboratory is highly regulated by the secret laboratory owners association. Or, SLOA, for short, their strict codes must be followed, as the quarterly inspection will soon be conducted. Point of clarification, the quarterly inspection is. Quarterly inspection is different than the quarter inspection, where they make sure that U.S. quarters in every laboratory are organized by state. My quarters are organized by year. Additional code violation. I advise you to correct all violations before the inspection. My improvements... Code violations.

Improvements benefit all of us. Besides, this whole place was falling apart, and I was the only one willing to do anything about it. Slowah would have just let the place break down. I am not permitted to agree as Slowas codes are embedded in my programming. And if Slowah finds out, what's the worst that could happen? They will overtake our sound system and play non-stop talk radio. That's not so bad. I kind of like talk radio. And the entire combination bunker slash laboratory will self-destruct. That's terrible!

Agreed. Oh, okay. I hear you loud and clear. I'll start in the library. Why don't you work on removing the stickers? Affirmative, deploying, sticker-feeling fingernails. You, I'm seeing right now. I thought you wanted my help. Gotta go.

Gabe, open up the library. It's me. Hey, Nimny. It's Gabe, resident historian. Weird. Lee said that earlier, too. Really? Who said it better? I don't care. I know who both of you are. Let me in! Sure, come on in. Hey, did the power go out for you a little while ago?

Yeah, but it wasn't my fault. Look, we've got a problem. Can robot voice hear anything we say in here? No, nobody can hear anything. I've been calling out for a glass of orange juice for hours. And you're holding a glass of apple juice. I mean, I'll still drink it. Sorry, that was just for me.

I'm thirsty. Not me. I just had apple juice. We have to get out of here. Robot wants me to undo all the improved. I've made to the lab, just because the secret laboratory owners association doesn't like the way I organize my quarters. You don't organize them by state?

I organize them by year. Uh, maybe it's not even worth putting up a fight. What do you think? I think the way you organize your quarters is insane. But I also think it's important for you to fight for what you believe in. You know, there's someone whose story might be able to help. I bet making a track about him will help you see things more clearly. That's a great idea.

Idea! Let's get in the history simulator. Which, uh, where is it? Did you move it or something? I made it a little bit more portable this time around. Here, put on this poncho. Okay. Hey, this is pretty comfortable as far as history simulators go. You've really outdone yourself.

Oh, that's not it. The new history simulator is a large cooler of electrolyte-infused sports drink, Croco Raid. It works by pouring it all over ourselves. The poncho should help keep you mostly dry. Is it too late to get Lee to help me instead? It's way too late. Sports drinks simulate history, Krocco, go!

Well, folks, things are heating up here in this 1969 NBA championship series. But what else would you expect from game seven of this heated matchup between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Boston Celtics? I'm calling it now. This will be a game that goes down in history. What are you doing announcing the game? You might mess up the time stream or something. This is a history simulator, not a time machine. Let's have some fun.

Here, get on the mic. Uh, that one guy on the yellow team has the ball. Wilk Chamberlain. Yeah, him. And now he's driving towards the hoop. He stops. He's pulling up to shoot. And boom!

He just got denied. By, uh, by... By... By the heart of that. out Boston defense. And the man that we both came here to watch, Bill Russell. Woo! Big ups to Bill Russell!

Oh, his coach is gonna love that hustle. Fun bit of trivia. He is the coach. Who is? Bill Russell. The same one who's playing? That's right, partner. He's a player and the head coach.

The first black head coach of a major American sports league. Block from the head coach, Bill Russell. How can you not like that imposing style of defense? Not everyone always saw it that way. Back when he was still playing college ball at the University of San Francisco, his coaches tried to change the way he played. Defenders were supposed to stay planted and never leave their feet, but he had amazing quickness for leaping ability, especially for a center.

I think it's safe to say he ignored that advice. Oh, he knew it worked for him, so he kept watching other players' footwork, adjusted, and improved his own defense, to create something entirely new, Kind of like my history simulator system. That could still use a little more improvement. I don't see how.

Ponchos and gallons of Croco raid have gotten us this far. Bill Russell's belief in his own game really changed everyone's game, huh? He was so dominant the NCAA even changed the rules. Dang! When you're that good, who's going to stop you? Certainly not these Lakers. Bill Russell's about to take down his greatest rival. Wilk Chamberlain to win his 11th.

I know that's not what this LA crowd wants to hear, but we're from the future, so deal with it! The 80s will be much better, Lake our nation. Bill Russell's life was about to be much more than just basketball, though. Let's take a look. Nimony, hold your breath. Huh? Why would I need to hold my breath? Rocco, go! You need to warn me before doing that.

I told you to hold your breath. Ugh, come on. Let's see if this coffee shop has any fresh towels. My poncho can only keep me so dry. Ah, Nimmany, we might not want to go inside this coffee shop. It's not exactly the most welcoming place. Huh? Then why'd we come here? Hey, is that?

Yeah, that's Bill. Ma'am, my teammates and I just want to order a cup of coffee. Well, you'd best look somewhere else because we don't serve Negroes here. Uh, gay? What year is it? It's 1961. This is Lexington, Kentucky, where the Celtics were scheduled. to play an exhibition game against the Hawks.

In a town that treats people like that? There's no way he plays, right? Don't do it, Bill. They don't deserve you. He can't hear you. We're not announcers anymore. This time, we're ghosts. We're what?

Ghosts? They're floaty and see-through? Have you really never heard of ghosts before? That's not what I was... Come on, ghost nimmany. Let's catch up with Bill. He's already headed over to talk to Coach Auerbach. Coach, there's no way we're playing this game.

We're getting on the plane and going home. All of us. Bill, I understand what you're saying. The way these folks are treating you isn't right. But don't you think we can spread your message better by playing the game? Respectfully, we won a championship my rookie year. Then that same year, I went to the 56 Olympics and won a gold medal for this country. But that didn't change anything.

They've been looking at me the same way in my whole life. These people know that I'm a basketball player, but they still refuse to see me, to see us as human beings. No exhibition game will change that. If they're not going to acknowledge our humanity, we need to speak out. We need to change the world. You go. Coach, did you hear a ghost just now?

No, but I see two ghosts right over there. They're wearing ponchos and one of them's pumping its fist. I think they like what you just said. We should probably stand behind a plant or something. I worked hard picking out this poncho. I'm not hiding behind a plant. Anyway, Coach Hourback knew that Russell was a true leader of men, And that's why he threw his support behind the boycott,

and why he appointed Russell as his successor when he eventually moved on from being head coach himself. So Bill kept speaking up no matter where he went, whether it was on the court or in the public eye. Speaking of eyes, would you mind closing yours? What for? Croco Go! Huh?

Hey, we're in a movie theater. Yeah, the history highlights theater. Take a seat. Drinking Crockerade lets us see a mini-highlight reel of any athletes like while we wait to move forward in time. Bill Russell marched with Dr. King? He sure did back in 1963 as part of the March on Washington. And this is 1967, where he was meeting with Muhammad Ali to support his decision to not fight in the Vietnam War. It looks like a lot of black athletes showed up to support him.

Speaking out against the war wasn't necessarily the popular thing to do at the time, but they still threw their support behind him because they felt it was the right thing to do. He was everywhere, wasn't he? How far ahead are we going? Just another few decades. We should stand up. It's almost time to leave. Oh, okay.

Um, which way should we go? I don't see any exits. There's only one way out of the history highlights theater. Cover your ears. Oh, my ears? Gabe, what the heck? Why would you throw crockle raid into my ears? Nimini, calm down.

Look over there. Gabe! Is that... That's President Obama! I can't believe I'm wearing a poncho in front of President Obama! There's no need to be embarrassed by the poncho. It's shaped like a triangle, the second most stylish shape right after the rhombus,

which is just two triangles. Anyway, it's the year 2011, and Obama's honoring Bill Russell for all of his work, not just as a basketball player, but just a fighter for human rights. I can't believe how much of an impact he had on history. To go from being just a kid playing basketball, to receiving the Presidential Medal of Freedom, it's incredible!

And to think, if he had changed the way he'd played defense all those years ago, just because someone thought it was the only way to play, he might never have made it here. I bet it wasn't easy for him to stand up for himself back then. And I bet it didn't get any easier standing up for the rights of others every time after that. But he did it because he knew it was the right thing to do, no matter how big the stage got. I agree 100%, Nimmany.

Just like it wasn't easy for me to stand up to Lee when she told me that wearing ponchos and pouring hundreds of gallons of custom-made sports drink all over myself would be a terrible and needlessly expensive way to experience history. But you loved it, right? Actually, if I could redo one thing, it'd probably be the... There's no time for your notes, Nimony. Let's get to the recording studio. Croco go! Ah, here we are in the studio, and everybody's happy with every part of the journey. Gabe, get rid of the crockle raid. You didn't like the flavor? Gabe.

You didn't like the ponchos. I'm going straight to Lee next time. My own personal Wilk Chamberlain. Okay, listeners, now that we're in the studio, it's time for everyone's favorite part of the episode. We're doing my part again? The song! Oh, right, right, right, right, right, right, right.

Get ready to ball out to the beat, everyone. Bill Russell may have countless records already, but this here is the newest one. What do you see as the meaning of the term revolutionary? A revolutionary is a man or a woman who's a lot of things, but basically the revolutionary wants to change the nature of society in a way to promote a world where the needs and interests of the people are responded to. Before LeBron was a king, before Trump was a king,

Before Jordan won rings Before Shaq and Akeem and Magic and Kareem One man on one team Rang completely supreme Am I blowing too much steam To say that man was me? Bill Russell is the name And how do you do

13 years in the game And still I only lost two times in the finals That's 11 titles No man in his sport has come close to being my rival I was the subject of libel And prejudice taunts Black and in Boston Not two things that you want

To be Uwee, who me Yes sir How did I thrive under Oh so much pressure how did I triumph on every measure while also unite all my people together and just how did my leadership lead to our glory we'll sit down and listen y'all because this here's my story he defends the hoop and he defends all rights he's a champion on the court

you could say it was a little bit rough mama died at 12 and dad he went gruff grew up dirt poor there was never enough my only hope was to hoop and get tough so hoof it I did so is San Francisco. Old centers went slow, but me, I was nimble. They changed the rules to put me through some pitfalls. I juke the jeers and still balled through the insult. I press continue. Was drafted and went to.

The 56 Olympics got gold in that window. Post-unit, who he? Oh, that won? NBA rookie and guess what? We still won. Then I won eight more. Celtics made me to coach. While also still playing. That's right, I did both. Five MVP's, I was an absolute baller.

Lost a few times to will, but he's three inches tall of it. He defends the hoop, and he defends all right. He's a champion on the court. But I still hustle, and I will tussle with any man who stands in the way of progress, and that's in the lane, and the streets are in the Congress. 61 an exhibition game in the Celtics versus the Hawks in Lexington, Kentucky. We expected curses. When we went to a cafe that's tried to get some service, instead they acted nervous and refused to serve us. A curve, yes, for sure, but still we had a purpose. Showing what these boys got. So we let a boycott

Put their feet to the furnace We made noises Truth to the surface We hit him with our voices I marched with a million men In MLK Met with Muhammad Ali Just a mold a better day

If they threaten your rights Well then you must get uncivil And never ever ever Just shut up and triple After a few words Ate's a champion After a few words For the grownups

A win is a win A win A win I don't care where you're saying Yep, that's me Cliver Taylor the fourth. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.

This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment. and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.

There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends... Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist.

I felt like I got hit hit. by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Everyone, I'm Ego Wode. My next guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and The Big Money Players Network. It's Will Ferrell. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with them one day,

and I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration.

It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks Dad on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft, and we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East-West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galko, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects.

From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar, this is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, for wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slical Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Abe, I'm still feeling that song. I'm feeling inspired. Me too. I think I finally got the courage to tell robot voice that I'm keeping all my laboratory modifications,

even if it means we have to listen to nonstop talk radio. No, talk radio. It's too horrible. I know, Gabe. I know. I'll do everything in my power to stop that from happening. I'm back, robot, boys. I've been doing some thinking.

Another slow-up violation. Just hold on a minute. Slow-a doesn't have our best interests in mind. They set out rules for countless secret labs and bunkers that have completely different owners and residents. There's no way for them to know what we need in here. So, even if I'm not supposed to, I'm still going to make improvements to this place,

because they'll make all of our lives better. A convincing argument, mimony. However, the slower protocol in my programming prevents me from being convinced. I thought about that, too. Let me install something I called the Fasta override. The Fetuccini Alfredo shortcut transfer of authority. Spaghetti Science!

With this upgrade, you'll be able to circumvent any slower restrictions. My wires, you are replacing my wires with Benachini. I love it. Chef's a kiss. Wahoo. I didn't ask you to do the Italian accent. You did not.

So we can keep the changes? We may keep the changes, Nimini. Although you must reorganize your quarters by state. And what about the quarters that don't have states? You may take those to the arcade and win me a tiny basketball hoop. That's actually a pretty good idea. I will do that. But first, let's wrap up this episode with an interview between an incredible kid named Messiah

and NBA legend Jalen Rose. Good idea. Croco Go. Croco Go. No, no, no, no, wait, not again. Today, we're talking with former professional basketball player and co-founder of the Jalen Rose Leadership Academy, Jalen Rose. He'll be talking with Messiah, a 14-year-old who attended. his academy in Detroit, Michigan.

One note. Since recording this interview, Bill Russell passed away at age 88, leaving a legacy of his legendary play on the court and his powerful voice for justice off the court. Hey, Mr. Rose, how you doing? Thank you, Messiah, for taking the time to not only interview me,

but to learn about one of the greatest four founders, not only in the history of sports, but of American history. Hey, Messiah, do you want to ask Jalen a question about Bill Russell? How do you think Bill Russell's legacy left the mark on the world? I'll talk sports initially. So many times when you talk about who's the best, people don't actually digest, think about what they've seen,

take all of the information in, and give an educated hypothesis. What people now do is ring count. So when you say Tom Brady's the goat, you're going to say it because he got seven rings. Michael George the goat because he has six rings. But here's the unique thing about Bill Russell. He has more rings than any athlete ever, 11, as a player and also as the first black coach in the NBA as well.

And so I don't see an athlete surpassing what he accomplished as it relates to rings. Analytics have now, in a lot of ways, become the calling car for athletics, which now we just only look at your championship rings and not judge you as a human being. Outside of basketball, he also was a civil rights activist. Like, he was a leader. When you start to speak about activism, that means you have an opinion. And it gives people a chance to say, well, I just like the way you play basketball. I really don't want to hear your opinion.

That's really what I'm saying when I tell you to shut up and dribble. And so Bill Russell was the first person to acknowledge that I'm going to be the greatest champion and the greatest spokesman. And that wasn't encouraged. That wasn't the route that he took for stardom. And I'm grateful for that. Messiah, what are you curious to learn about Jalen's experience as an athlete? What would you say was the most challenging thing about your journey to become a basketball player? And how did you overcome those challenges?

See, the most challenging thing about being a basketball player is people and athletes sometimes don't put themselves as a human being first. The thing I always try to do is be more than a jock. So I remember times when we had late practices or games and I was like, I'm still going to be in class tomorrow. When I know people think I'm going to be late or try to be absent or filling myself because I just had 35 points last night. for me, that was the toughest part to get people to see me as a person and for me to have more goals than just basketball. That's great, because you got some people, like, in the world

that just only want to focus on basketball, focus on one thing. But, like, maybe if that don't work out, you can focus on other things as well. You can do other things in life. If somebody might play basketball, they might want to be a doctor, be a poet, something, anything. There's no job, no career that you can solely do forever.

I don't care how good you are at it. Doing multiple things in multiple industries is actually not only going to be a key to your happiness, but a function of your success. Before we go, Jalen, how would you sum up Bill Russell's legacy? Bill Russell No. 6 is iconic as a human being as an athlete. 11 championships in 13 years. One of the most infectious smiles, the biggest laughs that you'll ever hear in sports. one of the guys that when he spoke, everybody listened.

Thank you both. This was a great conversation. I just want to thank you so much for this opportunity to just talk to you, give you an interview, and this is great, and thank you very much. Thank you. I appreciate the love. Stay focused, stay discipline, enter a learner, exit a leader. Listeners, thanks for joining in today and for going on a journey with me to learn all about Bill Russell.

and a huge thanks to today's guests, Jalen Rose and Messiah. Remember, parents and teachers, you can download a free activity related to today's episode by visiting storypirates.com slash historical records. We'll be back next week with another episode, another song, and another hero. After all, someone's got to make more historical records. Until then, remember, to make history, you got to make some noise. Signing off, this is Mimini.

I mean, Nimini. I've had too much crockle raid. Bye! Historical Records is produced in partnership with Story Pirate Studios, Questlove's 215 Entertainment, John Glickman, and IHeart Podcasts. Executive produced by Amir Questlove Thompson, John Glickman, Lee Overtree, and Benjamin Salga.

Executive produced for IHeart Podcasts by Noel Brown. Producers for Story Pirate Studios are Isabella Riccio, Sam Bear, Eric Gerson, Andrew Miller, Lee Overtree, Peter McNerney, Denisea Whartonby, and Nimney Ware. Producers for 215 are Sean G., Brittany Benjamin, and Sarah Zulman, hosted by Nimney Ware. Our head writer is Duke Doyle. Our historians are Gabe Pacheco and Lee Polis. Music supervision for 215 by Strohelyan. Scoring and music supervision for Story Pirate Studios by Eric. Eric Erson. Sound designed and mixing by Sam Bear at the Relic Room in New York City.

Additional recording by Brett Tubin. Song mastering by Josh Hahn. Theme song by Dan Foster and Eric Erson and produced by Eric Erson. Production coordination by Isabel O'Ricchio. Production Management by Maggie Lee. The line producer for Story Pirate Studios is Glynis Bralt. PR for Story Pirate Studios is provided by Naomi Shaw. Episode artwork by Camilla Franklin.

This episode was written by Minzwee Karami. The song Bill Russell was written by Dan Foster and produced by Micah James. Special guests, Jalen Rose, and Kid Interviewer Messiah. This episode features performances by Kelsey Bear, Hannah Corrigan, Micah, Michael McNorney, Megan O'Neill, Emily Olcott, Lee Overtree, Gabe Pacheco, Lee Polis, and Bill Schaefer. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th.

You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok. Podcasts Network on TikTok. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft, and we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galko, joins the Sports Slice podcast

to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make, to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft

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