The Questlove Show - Historical Records: Judy Heumann (feat. Ali Stroker and Jenna Bainbridge)

Episode Date: March 14, 2025

Nimene learns the inspiring story of Judy Heumann, who fought for the rights of disabled people, and enlists Broadway actor Jenna Bainbridge for a fierce hip hop track to honor Judy’s legacy. Featuring an interview between Tony Award-winning actor Ali Stroker and a 14 year old named Elizabeth.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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In this episode, Nimini learns the inspiring story of Judy Human, who fought for the rights of disabled people and a list Broadway actor Jenna Brainbridge for a fierce hip-hop track to honor Judy's legacy. We hope you enjoy historical records, the show that proves that in order to make history, you have to make some noise. It's Nimini.

Welcome back to History. Historical records. We're doing things a little different on the show today because I am at the gardening store and... Whoops, I dropped my trowel. Anyway, as I was saying, I'm throwing a garden party tonight and I need a few last-minute supplies. For example, these seeds. These pruning snips. Ooh, and this huge clay pot. Oh, dear. Clean up on aisle five, herb, please report to the vegetable section. I'll just grab another large clay pot. Herb, clean up on aisle 5. Stats.

Whoops, I'll just grab another one. Herb, coat red. Someone is breaking all the pots in aisle 5. Reach for one. What is happening? Herb, where are you? This is officially a cleanup emergency. Isle 5!

Where else? Calm down, Nemone. You're back at the bunker in your bed. There's no herb. There's no aisle 5. It was all a dream. Oh, man, I guess I'm a little, how you say, stressed about this garden party I'm going to throw later. But, you know, it's great for stress.

Gardening! Listeners, let's go check on those plants. Historical. Rack, wreck, wreck, wreck, wreck, wreck, wreck, grew. Make history, you got to have struggle. To make history, you got to show boys. Cannot be quiet, loud as a riot. To make history, got to make some noise.

Oh, lovely listeners. Welcome back to historical records, the show where I dig into historical records in order to produce historically themed records. And by records, I mean songs. Which is actually a bit of a history lesson in itself. Did you know songs and albums used to be called records? It's true. And if you have an adult in your life who still listens to records, be warned that if you ask their opinion about music, they're going to talk a lot. Now, follow me, listeners.

We're headed to a part of the bunker you've never been to. Me-ee-ee-ee-ee. Oh, hi, Tina. Where am I headed? I'm on my way to the greenhouse to check on my plants for the garden party later. Where are you going? Me-p-nesty. Oh, that's right. You're nocturnal, so you're going to bed, and that's also probably why you're in a dressing gown and a bonnet.

And here, I thought you were making a bold-fashioned choice. Sleep tight, Tina. I hope you don't have any stress dreams about herb. Never mind. I'll see you later. Anyway, listeners, today's episode of historical records is all about Judy Human, who is known as the mother of the disability rights movement. But before we learn more about her, I need to check up on my plants. I started a bunch of seeds a few weeks ago, and today's the first day I've been able to check up on them.

Plants are dead or dying. What have I done? Hey, Nimini, I'm here for the garden party. Lee, what are you doing? here. The party's not for another 12 hours. Ah, well, the invite didn't say whether it was 5 a.m. or 5 p.m. I thought it was a little weird that a party would start at 5 a.m., but you're a little weird, Nimny, like in a good way. So I just went with it. I won't argue with you on that. But I don't know if there's going to be a party at all now. Just look at this garden.

It's not all bad. The leaves on this shrub here are really beautiful bright yellow. They're supposed to be green. Oh, yikes. What were the conditions like in here? You know me. I love my gadgets. So, I set my UV light timers to 16 hours a day, programmed plant food to scatter every other day, and set the sprinklers to go off every five minutes at random intervals to mimic rain and nature. Oh, and of course, I programmed gentle thunderstorm noises to play whenever that happens. Oops, they're going off now. Hope you brought your umbrella. I would go to a garden party without umbrella. Nimini, I understand why you program this room the way you did, but it looks like you have a lot of different plants in here. Individual plants need specific conditions to thrive. You can't expect a

bonsai tree and a cactus to grow strong in the same kind of environment. Wow, I guess not. I was just excited to have a garden party. I made tiny sandwiches and everything. Totally understandable. And actually, It makes me think about this week's episode about Judy Human. Really? Why? I'll show you. Here. Oh, Lee, I think the party's off. You can put away that bird-shaped whistle you brought as a party favor. Actually, this bird whistle is this week's history simulator. Oh! You know I love a theme. Let's go! Just as a heads up, this whistle attracts actual birds, so you might see some after I blow on it.

That's great! I love birds! Birds. Me too. But just a reminder, there are over 11,000 species of birds, and I can't control which ones show up. In that case, maybe we should pause because I really don't like... Where did we travel to, Lee? I assume somewhere near an ocean? No, we're on the south lawn of the White House. What? Then why the seagulls? The birds have their own reasoning, Nimini. Best not to question it. But you should look over there. At that platform. form where a bunch of people are standing in front of a crowd? Wait a minute. Is that President George H.W. Bush?

Yep. And see that woman over there wearing glasses in the wheelchair? That's Judy Human. Does Judy Human work at the White House? Not yet. Eventually, she does end up working with President Clinton's administration, but that's still a few years away. Today she's here because President Bush is signing the 1990 Americans with Disabilities Act, also known as the ADA. And what did the ADA? And what did the ADA do? It's a civil rights law that says it's illegal to discriminate against people who have disabilities. The world looked very different before the ADA.

In what way? Well, take Judy, for example. When she was a kid, she had a disease called polio that forced her to use a wheelchair to get around. But many buildings were built in a way that made it impossible for wheelchairs to get inside and move around. That's not fair. It wasn't. But when the ADA became the law of the land, See that wheelchair ramp over there leading up to the stage where Bush is speaking?

That is one small way the ADA helped to make spaces accessible for everyone. Wow! And look, do you see how there's an ASL interpreter translating everything that's being said into sign language? Yes, I love watching interpreters, especially at concerts. That's part of the ADA too. Judy was part of a movement that wanted to change the world. To give everyone more access and the right kind of environment, to feel like they belong.

Seems like everyone here is happy about the ADA getting passed. But is it just me or does Judy seem a little unsatisfied? Spot on, Imani. Judy showed up to support this act being signed because it was a step in the right direction, but she had openly spoken out saying she didn't think the ADA went nearly far enough. She said that?

To the president? Well, she said it to the media, so President Bush knew she was less than that. thrilled about it. Oh, I really admire her honesty. Me too. It can be really intimidating to speak up for yourself. Now, let me take you further back to another time when Judy spoke up. Just prepare yourself because, you know, the bird thing. We can do this. Lee, give us a whistle. Oh, thank goodness. It's a flock of meadow larks. Gorgeous. Here we are. What a beautiful way to travel. Hey lady, are you going to stand in the middle of this sidewalk all day?

I'm walking here. Give us a break. We're larking here. All right, all right. Everyone's a character in New York City. Lee, look over there. Is that kid an old-timey-nusie and a cap selling papers? It sure is. Extra, extra, read all about it. Woman in wheelchair sues to become teacher.

Whoa! He must be talking about Judy Human. Extra, extra, read all about it. Judy Human wins case against school board to gain teachers' license. Wait, newsies were a fixture of life in the 1800s. How far back to Wigoli? The 1970s. Are the Newsies historically accurate? You let me worry about that, Nimmony.

Listen to what the newsies are saying about Judy. Extra, extra, read all about it. In a twist of fate, Judy Human wins discrimination lawsuit against a school board that barred her from attending school as a child. Okay. Wild. What are they talking about? When she was entering elementary school in 1952, a school board in Judy's neighborhood

didn't let her attend school? Because they said her wheelchair was a fire hazard. That seems outrageous, even for the 1950s. But what does that have to do with these headlines about her getting a teacher's license? Years later, after Judy had earned her teaching license, that same school board said she couldn't be a teacher in their school because she failed the medical exam,

because she couldn't walk. That's really unfair. She was obviously able to be a teacher. She was just going to need to get around the school in her own way. In schools today, there are not only ramps and elevators so that everyone is able to get around, there's even braille on all the signs on the walls

to help those that are vision impaired. Exactly. And all that progress is the result of Judy and her colleagues demanding that buildings be more accessible. Because the world is large, designed with able people in mind, you have to use your imagination in a new way to rethink places and make them for everyone. If only the school board could have realized that back in 1952. Extra, extra, exclusive interview with Judy Hume in page four. Oh, we should read that.

Excuse me. Hi, I'd like to buy a paper, please. Sure thing, that'll be 350. 350? That is expensive for the 70s. Oh well, here you go, Newsie. Thanks. Extra. Extra. Extra. Podcast a story and swindled by anachronistic newsie. Read all about it. You a little rascal? Wait, Lee. Why would we just read about it when we could go see Judy get interviewed? Oh, yeah.

Maybe I can return this paper to that. All sales final. Oh, New York. Let's get to that interview. That's a bird call? Yeah, it's called a jack snipe. I might need to sample it for a bee. That is awesome.

Now, that's the only way to time travel. Shh, Judy, humans about to give her statement. Sorry. Okay, so, Nimini, here we are at the overseas press club at Judy's news conference. And there she is. Judy, how do you feel now that you've won the case? I feel qualified to teach now, and I don't want to wait. I bet Judy was an amazing teacher.

She didn't end up teaching that much after the lawsuit. What? That makes me sad to hear. It's actually pretty inspiring. Judy realized that her work needed to be outside of the classroom after this whole experience. What did she end up doing? I'll show you. Turkeys?

Did you know that Benjamin Franklin wanted the national bird to be the turkey? Everybody knows that lake. Where are we? Shh, try to keep your voice down. It's pretty late at night. Or early in the morning, depending on how you look at it. We're in some kind of office building full of people having a sleeper. over? It's less of a sleep over and more of a sit-in. Hmm, that makes sense. People are definitely

sitting, mostly at empty desks. And look, there's a few people over there on the floor and sleeping bags playing a game. And based on the various haircuts, I'm guessing we're in the 70s again. Correct. We're in 1977. I thought sit-ins were like protests, like the ones from the civil rights movement. That's right. All of these folks are part of DIA. Disability. in action, an organization that Judy helped create that brings people together to fight for the inclusion of disabled people. Are they all protesting about another teacher license getting denied? No, this is a much bigger moment.

This is one of many sit-ins staged across the country by DIA and other groups, demanding that the government take action on Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973. 1973? But didn't you just say it's 1977? Yes. So in 1973, after other protests led by Judy in her community, President Nixon finally signed papers that basically said, no disabled person should be excluded from any program service or similar, which receives federal funds. That's great! It is great. But before Section 504 could be put into law, the U.S. Department of Health, Education, and Welfare had to come up with a sort of checklist to help determine who is disabled.

So all these activists had already helped bring about a new law, but one department delayed those laws being put into action for four years? Pretty much. No wonder Judy got so feisty. Okay, everybody. I don't want to wake you if you're resting, but you know what time it is. I'm not exactly sure what's happening now. They're taking down that big sign that says 21 and replacing it with another sign that says 22.

Fellow protesters. If you can, we'd love for you to stay just one more night. Oh, I see. All these people have been here protesting for 22 days and 22 nights. That's such a long time. Yeah, and some of the people here needed specific medical supplies to get through even a regular day. So other people from the community brought them stuff to help them keep going. How did they know what to bring them?

I mean, it's 1977. There are no cell phones, and I don't think they'd just let the protesters use. the phones in here. Oh, they didn't. In fact, the FBI cut the phone lines in here to try and get the protesters to leave, but they found a way. Look over there. That woman is using sign language to communicate with somebody on the other side of that window. Isn't that amazing? The FBI couldn't stop ASL. Still, it sounds like hard work. How much longer does the protests go? They'll be here for a few more days, 24 altogether. I know this is a protest, and everyone here is rightfully angry and felt called to action,

but it also feels good in here. Is that weird to say? I don't think so. And actually, that makes me think of one other thing I want to show you. I really hope I don't wake anybody up with this history simulator, but here we go. Owls! What a perfect bird to take us to our... next stop

you're right Lee those owls were on theme I'm seeing a bonfire with people gathered around it I hear frogs and crickets there are mosquitoes oh no I do not do well with mosquitoes

then we better be quick what's the scoop on this gathering we're at a place called Camp Jen Ed it's a summer camp Judy went to when she was a teenager look she's right over there sitting near the fire where Sorry, it's hard to tell from this far back, and there is more than one person in a wheelchair over there.

She's the one who just made everyone laugh. Gotcha. I wanted to bring you here because Judy talks about Camp Gen Ed a lot. It was a camp for young people with disabilities. It's here that Judy said she realized that a lot of the limited way people view folks with disabilities comes from fear. It sparked something in her to want to change that. Maybe this is where her flame first got at spark? Hard to say.

But it gave Judy and many other campers an idea of how great things could be if everyone is given a chance to thrive. Other campers from Jen Ed went on to be disability rights activist too. Hey, they're really getting into that song. Oh, which reminds me, we better get back to the studio to create some music of our own. Also, it sort of looks like you're getting eaten alive by mosquitoes. Yikes, let's get out of here. Governor Swans? Cool!

We're heading back to the studio, so it is sort of our stuff. swan song. All right, here we are. Back at the studio. I'm covered in bug bites. Why did I create a history simulator that didn't protect us from mosquitoes? Oh, all that, and you didn't even get a smore.

Oh, no. One came back with us. Run away! Bye, Lee! Okay, listeners, let's hear this song about the one and only Judy Human, featuring the amazing, amazing vocalist, Jenna Bainbridge.

I'm looking for feisty, disabled people. But I was pe- But just know that this song ain't a sob story. Ain't the goal crying home to your mom's story. This about finding force when you're afraid. Getting lemons turning them to lemonade. To the first day of my new school, want to learn in the worst way.

But in a curse fate, they took one look at the wheelchair. Teachers tell me I cannot be there. You know, they called me a fire hazard. To go to class, had to give them some sass. Claim my dignity, change the policy, so he had to be. Fight, see. Be the brawler.

Make the shift to help the youth out and pass my test, bought my chalk. They say I can't teach, because I can't walk. Excuse me? This rule was blatantly unfair and wrong. Run in America of New York was not the paragon of equity I needed, so I sued them, put the pressure on. You know they settled out of court? First ever teacher in a wheelchair in New York. Plus, I got a lot of press for my stress

and soon got so many letters piled all upon. Scared adults and from nervous kids being denied their basic services. I now know what my perist disturbance is. If there's prejudice, I'm curbing it. I'm swerving fervently and urgently I'm getting. Frighting. Be the brawling. Rights have led to many positives,

but disabled people still ain't policy, prerogatives prison by pity paternalism and persecution perpetrated by politicians immune for prosecution ooh we need a little traction how about some civic action prove the positions of people who won't be hidden or be told that we don't fit in so we went to a building and started what's called sitting that's where you show up on bidding and basically get to sit in we stay 26 days without a stop can't stop wouldn't move even when they brought the army and the cops. It was worth it when we finally got our props.

When we got the regulations that we wanted from our ops. And we learned this basic fact. People don't clean up their act just for kicks. Need a nudge and a push and a flick they need. Fight. Be the brawler. You make the shift, the shift that you want to see. No time for the niceties.

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I went and had lunch with them one day, and I was like, and Dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come look for up-and-coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot.

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Listen to Thanks Dad on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Nurse, thanks for joining in today and for learning more about the mother of the disability rights movement, Judy Heumann. In fact, she inspired me so much. I have changed my plan for the garden party. Hey, Timit. Hey, Lee. Hey, Hype Man, Phil. Hey, Tina. Yo, I showed up today around 5.30 a.m. for your party, because I'm always fashionably late. But I think I actually ended up being fashionably early. It was all, ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-ma-a.

You did? I thought it was kind of weird to have a party so early in the morning. But then again, you're pretty weird, too, but in a good way. Thanks, Phil. You're kind of weird, too. I know. Also, I just want to say that this pile of dirt and empty planter boxes were all standing around all fantastic. Love that pre-plan and stuff.

aesthetic. I actually had a question about that, Nimmony. I thought you were inviting us to a garden party, but there's no garden in here. I thought we could change this from a garden party to a gardening party. I have all these different types of seeds here, and they each need different conditions to help them grow. So will you help me create a better environment for each of these different types of plants? Sure! What are all these birds doing here? I'll explain later. Whoa! That Swan is very good with a wheelbarrel.

Way to go, Swan. Let's get gardening. Thanks, everyone. While we all work on the garden, I'm going to briefly sneak away for an interview. Introduce yourself for our listeners. My name is Ali Stroker, and I am an actress and a singer and a dancer. I have had the privilege of performing on Broadway and winning a Tony Award for my performance in Oklahoma, where I played Aido Annie. And I also am an activist and an advocate for people with disabilities.

I was injured in a car accident when I was two and used a wheelchair for mobility. I have a two-year-old son named Jesse, who is hilarious and such a joy. and I'm married to the love of my life named David, and we live in Westchester. Amazing! Now, Elizabeth, can you tell us a little bit about yourself? Okay, so I'm Elizabeth. I'm 14, and I'm in theater at my school. I do chorus, and I like to play sled hockey, baseball, swimming. So, Elizabeth, I know you have some questions prepared. Do you want to jump in with your first one? What was the one thing that was most challenging for you with your disability to start your acting career? I began singing and doing theater when I was seven years old.

And before I began doing theater, I was really shy. And I felt really different being a little kid with a disability. It felt really hard. It felt like when I would enter rooms, I was being stung by bees. It was just so uncomfortable. And then when I got on stage, everyone was staring at me, but it was. was for a different reason now. It wasn't because of my wheelchair. It was because I was the star of the show and I was totally hooked. Yeah, I can relate to that a lot because like when I was in sixth

grade, it was really hard. And I went to theater and I was on the stage and it kind of felt like it was where I was supposed to be. I saw myself as a normal kid, not with a disability. Yes, exactly. Wait, can I ask you a few questions? Sure. Yes. Okay. What is your dream role in a show? I really want to try out for Dorothy in Wizard of Oz. Yes. But like, I'm shy and it's like very scary for me. Totally. I don't know what your audition will be like, but I always say to people, like, if you have any questions about what I can do and sort of, you know, how I move in my physical vocabulary, I'd love to talk to you guys about it. Because the truth is, like, when you're collaborating on a show, you probably have as many ideas as they do.

Yeah. And maybe even more that they wouldn't even think of because you live with your disability and you know what is really kind of unique and cool about it. And there's ways to be creative and incorporate it into the show. Yeah. You know, this concept of clicking your heels three times. Like, I wear a lot of rings. Yes. I don't know if you use a wheelchair or not, but like I like to click my rings against my wheels.

all of a sudden it's like, who says clicking your heels three times has to look the same as it's always looked. Like, I can click my wheels instead of heels three times. There's so many cool opportunities to come up with creative options. Yeah. Elizabeth, is there anything you want to ask Allie about Judy Human? I thought it was kind of cool that, like, she fought for, like, our rights because of our disability. Judy's whole thing was she was sick of. hearing no. She believed that we as a community of people with disabilities deserved to have access

and rights, by the way, Elizabeth. I believe that the future is accessible. And that's the life that I'm leading and the work that I do in my life to make it so. I always say when someone is not able to see that, that's not a person for me. And that's okay too. Like I surround myself with people who are passionate about my ability and access to the world. And you will have the same, Elizabeth. You're so bright. You're so smart. Like, continue to surround yourself with people who believe in accessibility and change.

Oh, this was an amazing conversation. Thank you both so much for being here. Thank you so much. You inspire me. I'm inspired by you. Great to meet you and have a wonderful day. Bye-bye. Bye.

Listeners, thanks for joining in today and for going on a journey with me to learn about the disability rights activist Judy Heumann. And a huge thanks to today's guests, Jenna Bainbridge, Ali Stroker, and Elizabeth. We'll be back next week with another episode, another song, and another hero. After all, someone's got to make more historical records.

Until then, remember, to make history, you got to make some noise. Oops, forgot to turn the random sprinkler timer off. Gotta go. Signing off, this is Niminy reminding you to stay feisty. Bye! Historical Records is produced in partnership with Story Pirate Studios, Questlove's 215 Entertainment, John Glickman, and IHeart Podcasts.

Executive produced by Amir Questlove Thompson, John Glickman, Lee Overtree, and Benjamin Salca. Executive produced for IHeart Podcasts by Noel Brown. Producers for Story Pirate Studios are Isabella Riccio, Sam Bear, Eric Gerson, Andrew Miller, Lee Overtree, Peter McNerney, and Nimney Ware. Producers for 215 are Sean G., Brittany Benjamin, and Zara Zulman. Hosted by Nimney Ware. Our head writer is Duke Doyle. Our historians are Gabe Pacheco and Lee Polis.

Music supervision for 215 by Stro Elliott. Scoring and music supervision for Story Pirate Studios by Eric Erson. Sound design and mixing by Sam Bear at the Relic Room in New York City. Additional recording by Brett Tubin. Song mastering by Josh Hahn. Theme song by Dan Foster and Eric Erson and produced by Eric Erson. Production coordination by Isabel O'Ricchio. Production management by Maggie Lee.

The line producer for Story Pirate Studios is Glynis Bralt. PR for Story Pirate Studios is provided by Naomi Shaw. Episode artwork by Camilla Franklin. This episode was written by Megan O'Neill. The song Judy Human was written by Dan Foster and produced by Eric Gerson. Special guests, Ali Stroker, Jenna Bainbridge, and Kid Intervieuer Elizabeth. This episode features performances by Peter McNerney, Megan O'Neill, Lee Overtree, Lee Polis, Austin, Jamie Watson, and Nimini Ware. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying.

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