The Questlove Show - Historical Records: Mitsuye Endo (feat. Anna Suzuki)

Episode Date: March 28, 2025

Nimene makes a brand new hip-hop track with special guest Anna Suzuki about Mitsuye Endo, a Japanese American who took her fight against racism all the way to the Supreme Court, helping to bring about the end of Japanese American internment during World War II. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, y'all? It's Questlove.

and for the final Friday of Women's History Month, we're releasing another episode of Historical Records, my new podcast with the Story Pirates. It's an explosive fusion of hip-hop and history tailored-made for music-loving kids and families. In today's episode, Nimini makes a brand-new hip-hop track

with special guests, Anna Suzuki about Mitsouye Endo, a Japanese American who took her fight against racism all the way to the Supreme Court, helping to bring about the end of Japanese-American instrument during World War II. This is historical records, the show that proves that in order to make history,

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To make history, you got to show poise. Cannot be quiet, loud as a riot. To make history, gotta make some noise. Welcome back to historical records, the show where we dig into the historical records in order to produce historically themed records. I'm your resident historian Lee. And normally, Nimini would do this intro,

but, um, well, I came upstairs and found her huddled in the corner on the phone muttering to herself. And hey, Nimini... Must stay on the line. Hmm, she can't hear me. Today's episode is about the heroic actions of Mitsuye Endo. But first, I need to get Nimini's attention. I haven't tried yelling at her yet, so I'll do that now.

Hey, Nimony! I'm on the phone. We have a show to do. I know, I know. It's just... I've been trying to reach customer support. We got a notice from the Secret Laboratory Owners Association that's said we need to prove we live here by the end of the day or they'll shut off our bug spray.

But the sandflies are getting bold enough as it is. Back off sandflies! They're getting bigger, too. Wait, what does proving we live here even mean? I don't know. I'm trying to find out what they put me on hold all morning. And you're using a landline phone so it's attached to the wall, huh? Yeah, I can't move very far.

It looks like the phone cord is stretchy, though. You might not be able to get all the way to the library, but there's still another way to connect to the history simulator. Follow me. All right, I'll stretch the cord as much as I can. Okay, who's today's episode about? Mitsyei Endo. She was one of around 120,000 Japanese Americans who were detained in the U.S. internment camps.

Internment Camp? What's that? In this case, it's a prison camp that holds prisoners of war. Well, that doesn't sound like a nice place to be. It's not. But Mitya's Supreme Court case paved the way for those camps getting shut down. Wow, I'm kind of embarrassed to say, but I didn't know anything about all that. Honestly, Nimini, not a lot of people do.

She didn't get a ton of attention, and she didn't ask for it. Not even her kids knew what she'd done until they were adults. Hold on, this way. What? Is this an office? How did I not know about this place? Um, it's the historical records backstage area. We're not really supposed to use it on the show, but it's the only way the phone cord will reach. Wait, are these exhausted-looking people in ill-fitting loungeware for the writers of this show? They're writing everything we're saying right now? I can see it happening as I'm saying it.

Nimini no, don't get too close to them. They'll just try to give you their lunch orders. I am starving. Run, Eminie, run! The phone cord doesn't have much more giz. Through here. Whoa! This room's covered in telephone wires and plugs and knobs and stuff? What is this?

Some sort of old-timey 1940s switchboard? That's exactly what it is. Welcome to the History Simulator Switchboard. This will let us use the History Simulator while staying on hold. So we just plug this one. wire into the phone and then plug the other end into one of these. They're called phone holes, I think. I don't spend a lot of time in here.

Either way, just plug the phone into one of the phone holes and then switch to the other line. Then dial nine and then the year and then the pound sign. And we should be connected to the right time. Probably. I'm starting to see why you preferred the goo. Okay. Plug. Switch to line to.

dial nine dial 1942 1, 9 4, 2 pound It's changing It just takes a little fine tuning to build the simulation this way But we'll get there This is an emergency broadcast

Japan has launched an attack on Pearl Harbor This marks the official entry of the United States Into World War II President Roosevelt has enacted Executive Order 9066 Establishing the West Coast as a military zone and allowing the government to relocate anyone deemed necessary. For all those broadcasts. Just some radio cross-talk. We'll probably pick up a lot of that using the history simulator this way. I guess the extra context doesn't hurt, but are we in the right place?

This looks like a law office. It sure is. Can't beat all that natural musty smell. That's the smell of justice. What are we doing snooping around an empty lawyer's office. Isn't this breaking and entering? Of course not. We didn't break anything. That face was broken when we got here. What are we doing here? This is James Purcell's office in San Francisco. He wanted to challenge the legitimacy of what the U.S. government did when they removed Japanese Americans from their homes and placed them in internment camps. So he wanted to find the perfect subject to put together a test case. And I'm guessing that perfect subject was Mitsuii Aindo. Bingo. Which means, he's done a ton of research on her already.

Look at these notes on his desk. They're all about her life. It says, Nise. What does that mean? Well, Nii means two, and say is like life, or in this case, generation. So Nise are second generation immigrants, meaning they were born here in the U.S. Oh, okay, that makes sense. It says Mitsouye was born and raised in Sacramento, California.

22 years old, she's never been to Japan, doesn't know Japanese. has a brother currently serving in the military, not Buddhist. What's that have to do with anything? You know how those broadcasts we heard said that there was a lot of suspicion towards Japanese people in general? That actually started before the attack on Pearl Harbor. They were being closely monitored just for participating in local Japanese cultural associations or for simply being Buddhist. So the attack on Pearl Harbor probably just accelerated that.

After the attack, Japanese people who had nothing to do with it were affected right away. Around 300 to 500 state employees were harassed at work until they were eventually laid off just for having Japanese heritage. That included Endo, who worked at the Department of Employment. So Mitsuiiye was an American-born Christian who worked for the American government with the brother on active duty in the American military. On paper, she sounds like the least suspicious person in the world. That's exactly what James Purcell was banking on. He wanted to present someone who even the most suspicious judge couldn't possibly. describe as disloyal to the United States. By using the perfect model of an American citizen,

he could show that the government had illegally detained people without a shred of proof that they were enemies of the U.S. So what happened next? He went to talk to her? Funnily enough, they never met in real life. They mostly communicated through official correspondence, which is why it's up to the two of us to deliver this letter to her. Us? What happened to the mailman? The mailman smashed a vase right before we got here and went on the run so it's up to us to finish the job. Lee, I saw you smash the base. Whose side are you on here?

Just dial the code for Too Lee Lake and let's deliver this letter. Sure. So it's, yeah, dial nine. Nine. And then put in the area code, so 503. 503. Star 1942.

Star 1942. The Tooley Lake relocation center boasting over 18,000 residents, all living in close quarters, complete with eight foot high double fences, minos of barbed wire, and thousands of armed guards. You'll feel secure knowing you can't leave. Have you filled out your loyalty questionnaire? Simply answer yes to 30 quick questions and you'll learn back our trust.

Prove that you're worthy of leaving the camps by pledging your willingness to renounce the Japanese emperor and to serve in our military. Abias Corpus on lawful detainment. Propaganda ads? Yeah, from the sound of it. This internment camp, the loyalty questionnaires, they were blatant actions to limit the freedoms of Japanese Americans. But the government still tried to paint the picture

that they were doing it for the good of the country. And that last one about habeas corpus, that's what we're here to deliver to Endo, right? Yeah. The case hinges on the fact that bringing her and everyone else to the camps without a trial violated their constitutional rights. This place really is.

It's intimidating. It's entirely fenced in. There's barbed wire as far as the eye can see, and they weren't kidding about the armed guards. Are you sure we can be in here? Look at our outfits. We're dressed as mailmen now, and as far as this historical simulation goes, mailmen are allowed to be anywhere. You take a lot of liberties with your simulations. Hey, hey, I don't tell you how to do your job, even though I think your songs could stand to use a little more tambourine. Excuse me, are you two mailmen lost? Are you Mitsui Endo? I am. What can I do for you?

Actually, we were sent here to deliver this letter to you. Oh, thank you. Hmm. If I'm understanding this correctly, Mr. Purcell is asking for my help to sue the U.S. government. We know it's a lot of responsibility, but... I'll do it. Really? Simple as that. Simple as that.

We were all brought here without any sort of trial, but by using me, we can show them that what they've done to us is wrong. If this can help everyone else out, then there's no question about it. I have to do it. We thought you'd say that. We'll let Mr. Purcell know right away. Thank you. I hope it's a quick process. Please excuse me.

I have to get to the mess hall. It was nice to meet you. It was nice meeting you too. She knows it won't be a quick process, doesn't she? Yeah, and not just because she used to be a government employee. Her case will be delayed, dismissed, and worked around. You mean they're going to try to get her to do? drop the case. Yep. And this place, Tully Lake, it's going to get worse. The conditions are going

to reach the point where Endo wishes that she could leave, and the war relocation authority starts cutting deals that let people in Mitziei's situation relocate outside of California. But if she leaves the state, the court no longer has jurisdiction over her case, and it'll be dropped. So, she'll refuse the chance to get out of here, because just like she said, she's going to do the thing that helps people no matter how difficult it gets. Let me guess. They'll find a way to move her anyway. Her case will be dismissed, and they'll move her to Utah.

Oh, my head hurts from all the legal system. Ugh, logistics. How would her case ever make it to the Supreme Court? You mean because we never went back to relay her message to Purcell? It's a simulation, Nimmony. A different mailman went back to tell him, probably after he apologized for smashing that priceless face with your fingerprints all over it. My fingerprints? Yeah, I planted your fingerprints on it so I wouldn't get blamed. Is that a crime?

Yes! Not in my simulation, it's not. Forget the vase. You're the one fixating on it. I meant how'd her case make it to the Supreme Court after all that? James Purcell filed an appeal and made sure it got elevated all the way there. Here, let me dial us in. 9.94. Pound, pound, star, number pad smash. In a case of Hirobayashi versus the United States In the case of Yusui versus the United States In the case of Korematsu versus the United States The court has ruled in favor of the United States What were those other cases?

They were the three other challenges to the internment camps that made it to the Supreme Court, but they all failed. That doesn't sound good. I'm guessing we're at the Supreme Court then? What gave it away the nine Supreme Court justices glaring at? us? Yeah, that was it. Can we even be in here? You two, the mailman. You shouldn't be in here. Your Honor, we were in here to deliver a letter, but we accidentally super glued our butts to the seats. Is it okay if we just observe the rest of the proceedings while we wait for someone to

unbolt our seats from the ground and carry us home? I don't know what to say to that, but we're running short on time, so I'll allow it. Let's move on to our final decision on Mitsouye Endo versus the United States. We are of the view that Mitsui E. Endo should be given her liberty. For we conclude that, whatever power the war relocation authority may have to detail other

classes of citizens, it has no authority to subject citizens who are conceitedly loyal to its leave procedure. Wait, that means she won, right? She did. Out of the four cases elevated to the Supreme Court surrounding the issues of Japanese

internment, hers was the only case that was ruled in favor of the plaintiff. After this, President Roosevelt reversed the executive order and citizens were allowed to go home. But a court ruling's not like waving a magic wand, is it? It doesn't just change back everything that went wrong. No. And unlike the super glue I put on our pants, its effect isn't immediate. Endo stayed in the camp for another five months to look after her parents. And after that, well, it's not like the communities that most of these people were kicked out of didn't suddenly stop being suspicious of Japanese Americans. A lot of people didn't even have homes to return to.

I can imagine. I wouldn't go back to that. It couldn't have been easy finding new housing or jobs after being ripped away and then kept away for all that time. She actually never even went back to California. Eventually, she made her way to Chicago. She wanted to put this whole thing behind her, like I'm sure a lot of others did,

including the U.S. government itself. What do you mean? Dial nine and then 1988. Wait, 1988? As in 40 years later? Mm-hmm. Oh, okay. Huh, a conference room.

Hot up. Is that president of the Screen Actors Guild, Ronald Reagan? Yes, but in 1988, Ronald Reagan was also the president of the United States. Did you notice that the language in the Supreme Court's ruling didn't mention racial discrimination? Oh, yeah, now that I'm not. Think about it. It just said that the government couldn't detain people who were decidedly loyal. So is that how Indo could win her case while the other cases were all struck down?

Exactly. This press conference with former SAG President Reagan is the first time that the U.S. is officially apologizing to the 120,000 Japanese Americans who were wrongfully detained. Yet we must recognize that the internment of Japanese Americans was just that. A mistake. For throughout the war, Japanese Americans, Japanese Americans in the tens of thousands remained utterly loyal to the United States. Better late than never, I guess. Remember the other three cases?

Hirabayashi, Yasui, and Korematsu? Losing those cases wasn't just a loss for Japanese Americans, but also for those three individuals. They were technically considered convicts, which is something that makes it pretty hard to find a job. Even after this apology, it wouldn't be until 2018 that those three cases officially got overturned. clearing their names. 2018? Yeah, 40 more years. But for now, let's get back to the lab.

Switch back to line one. Lee, I know that technically we saw Endo win her case, but I know, 1942 all the way to 2018, history is full of regrettable decisions and mistakes, of things that still need to be acknowledged and corrected. But if things move that slowly, How are any of us supposed to change anything? It does seem daunting and complicated and overwhelming,

but the things we actually do are actions, those can be simple. How do you mean? Mitzie Aendo didn't set out to change the world. She was just offered a chance to do what was right. Someone said to her, we need you to play a part. Can you do that? And she said yes. And she said yes.

She took a small, quiet action, stayed determined, and that set everything else in motion. Winning her case effectively led to the end of the internment camps and made way for the reversals of the other three cases decades later. It's like she said, if it helps other people, I'll do it. Even if the system itself is imperfect, it's people who ultimately make sure it works, and people make mistakes and corrections,

and try their best to do what's right, even if it takes a long time. Speaking of taking a long time, you got a song for us or what? You bet I do. All right, everyone, it's time to celebrate Mitsueyay Indo's heroic actions with this brand new track. It doesn't matter citizen or first or second gen. To the man you're subject to the acts of sedition, laws with a terrible tradition. Soon the U.S. Senate's troops were imprisoned against the will and began the policy that we not call internment.

They said we when you lost to challenge Roosevelt politically. and we're certain that a jury and judge will agree. So three ended back and was swiftly let go, which directly counteracts and else about it. So they offered me until she reached the Supreme. For the grownups. A win is a win. A win is a win.

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Listen to The Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. In 2023, former bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice in so-ins, correct? I doctored the test ones. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case.

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I went and had lunch with him one day, and I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot.

He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall, and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck.

Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What a great song. It's a lot better than the hold music. You're still on hold? Yes. That's why I've been holding the phone against my ear the whole time. Oh, I thought you just forgot how to put things down. That makes more sense, though.

I'm okay with this, though. If I've learned anything from today, it's that even small, simple actions can bring about great change. I'm responsible for this secret lab, and if the only thing I need to do to prevent it from being swarmed by ever-growing probably bloodthirsty sandflies is to stay on the line, then I'll just have to stay on the line for as long as it. It's ringing. Oh, thank goodness. I think I'm being connected. The following message may be recorded for quality assurance purposes. Hello, you've reached customer service. To whom am I speaking? Nimony.

Let me just pull up your account. Okay, I see you right here. How can I help you today, Nymony? I got a letter that said I need to prove that I live in the secret lab. Do you? Yes. Okay. Let me just update that in the system. Okay. Oh, look at that. It was already a little. in there. No one must have forgotten to

relink the spreadsheet to the database. Great. So, you won't shut off our bug spray? Oh, we've actually got a pool going on how long you can hold them off. But I can transfer you over to the bugs department if you want to speak to them. No, no, no, no, no, no, we're fine. Just keep the

bug spray on. No problem. I'm glad I was able to help you out today. By the way, if you wouldn't mind taking a short survey to rate your experience... Phew, glad that's finally over with. Listeners! What you just heard was a male man from the 1940s rush in here and smash my phone. He's out there somewhere.

But the important thing to note is that I, Nemonee, am not at fault. Okay, that's it for today's season finale. Listeners, I can't thank you enough for tuning in to this season of historical records. Combining history and hip-hop has always been my dream. So, thank you for being brave enough to witness my experiment. I learned about so many extraordinary luminaries, and yet it's just the tip of the iceberg. There are so many more.

Maybe you can even find some of your own and write a song about them. Because remember, to make history, you gotta make some noise. Neminine out. Historical Records is produced in partnership with Story Pirate Studios, Quest Loves 215 Entertainment,

John Glickman, and IHeart Podcasts. Executive produced by Amir Questlove Thompson, John Glickman, Lee Overtree, and Benjamin Salga. Executive produced for IHeart Podcasts by Noel Brown. Producers for Story Pirate Studios are Isabella Riccio, Sam Bear, Eric Gerson, Andrew Miller, Lee Overtree, Peter McNerney, and Nimney Ware. Producers for 215 are Sean G., Brittany Benjamin, and Sarah Zulman. Hosted by Nimine Ware. Our head writer is Duke Doyle. Our historians are Gabe Pacheco and Lee Polis.

Music supervision for 215 by Stroh Elliott. Scoring and music supervision for Story Pirate Studios by Eric Gerson. Sound design and mixing by Sam Bear at the Relic Room in New York City. Additional recording by Brett Tubin. Song mastering by Josh Hahn. Theme song by Dan Foster and Eric Erson and produced by Eric Erson. Production coordination by Isabel O'Ricchio. Production Management by Maggie Lee.

The line producer for Story Pirate Studios is Glynis Brault. PR for Story Pirate Studios is provided by Naomi Shaw. Episode artwork by Camilla Franklin. This episode was written by Minzwee Karami. The song Mitsui E. Endo was written by Dan Foster, produced by Micah James, an associate produced and vocal directed by Eric Gerson.

Special guest, Anna Suzuki. This episode features performances by Chris Ferry, Caroline Lux, Peter McNerney, Lee Overtree, and Lee Polis. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me.

Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifers Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled of conversations with athletes,

creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clivert Show on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the show, scenes follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. In 2023, Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd was accused of fathering twins.

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When a group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist, they take matters into their own hands. I vowed, I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves. We always say that.

Trust your girlfriends. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What's up, everyone? I'm Ego Wode. My next guest, it's Will Ferrell. My dad gave me the best advice ever.

He goes, just give it a shot. But if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck.

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