The Questlove Show - QLS Classic: 2016 Holiday Episode

Episode Date: December 2, 2024

Questlove, Phonte and Team Supreme talk about their personal, religious and cultural traditions and share some of their favorite holiday memories. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Suprema, sub, sub, Supremma role. This is Questlove. Yeah. And I own this. Yeah. To my entire crew. Yeah. I'm giving Christmas bonuses. Suprima. Supreme a, sub, sub, supremo roll call. Supremma, sub, sub, suprema roll call. My name is Fonte. Yeah. Oh yeah, I'm here. Quest Love Supreme. Yeah. Spreading Christmas chill.

Roll call. Suprema, Suprema, Submina, Role call. Suprema, Subrema, Subrema, Role call.

I'm on Pay Bill. Yeah. Put on my Yamika. Yeah. Quest Love Supreme. Yeah. Fucking Hanukkah. Roll call.

Supriva, Submma, Submina, Role call. Suprema, Submma, Sub prima role call. My name is Sugar.

Yeah It's Christmas time Yeah It's also Hanukkah Yeah No ham Rola Suprema

Suprema Ro Supremea Roll Corm My name's Juana Yeah Wish you a Merry Christmas Yeah

And a happy Quanza Who else gonna say it well Suprima I got to talk about your rhymes Supreme Roll call

Suprema Suprema Rol Happy holiday Yeah From boss Bill to you Yeah Dear 2016?

Yeah. Screw you. Roll call. Supremma. S S S Srema Roe Call. Suprema. Srema Roe Call. Suprema.

Srema Roe Call. Suprema Ro call. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the special Christmas edition. Holiday, we PC. You know, yeah. Wait, before we start this off, I think we should play the official theme song of this episode. I'm going right off the top.

Okay. This is my man Jimmy Liggins and drunk. Drunk. Drunk. Drunk. It's a mean old bottle they call moonshine. Red, red wine so mellow and fine. Come home at night with a.

Swimming in the head Reach for the pillar miss To hold during bed Drunk That's right We are getting So enough On Christmas Day we get in

So drunk So drunk How drunk Oh yeah Yeah Yeah Wait this is a fourth verse So many verses

No wonder this shit wasn't a hit Oh yeah That's the only reason That was Jimmy Liggins And Drunk Yes Ladies and gentlemen

There's no pressure There's no research to do on artists There's no guest We're just We're just wrong We're sitting with each other In electric lady studios In the holiday spirit

drinking some holiday spirits Yeah Who are you called? Living in the new era of our president-elect And Trump Trump

About to get drunk Because of Trump Yeah Trump Trump Trump All right. Oh, my God.

That's some walk-on music here. Oh, yeah. Do not do that when he turns a show. Oh, that's letting him off easy. Yo, because I know you, when he finally makes it as the president, I know. What you're going to do? What you're going to do?

What's the song you're going to play? I think I'm going to play sick that day. That's not a song. Y'all played in peace or president. That would be pretty dope. I would love to do that. And then. Or play something that just samples of breakfast.

So you don't have to like actually clear. I tried that once and it really didn't come off when, when, when Katie Holmes came on the show, we did Tom Cruise. We did Tom, we did dropping science. Oh, wow. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. By, uh, uh, Craig G. Molly Mall and all. All right. So we're sitting here swimming, swimming in our happiness and our misery.

I'm not I'm not all doing go for this duce shout out the old for the duet Does he own duet Yeah I do say so don't he If I do say so much I mean well own

And hip hop is relative I mean he has to Simply because why would he I mean Go so hard with endorsing it Does Did he own Sirac No but he did the most Gangster thing of all time

Like what he did was better than own it He just went to them and said Like give me a piece of the company And they did it and they're better for it. Well, Ducey is better because they finally made a punch. So, because drinking that straight. Oh, so this is Ducey punch I'm drinking?

Yeah, I didn't make, oh, you thought I made that homemade? No one. No one thought that. Yeah, no one. Especially when the, when the two women came in here presented to us. And it's in a bottle. With a marketing pitch and everything.

Totally, totally. Like, totally. Lai is punch. Shout to my man, Night wonderful for hooking this up as well. Yes, thank you. Ninth one. Thank you.

Thank you. You know what I'm saying? Thank you for getting Fonte, Drizzi, early. Man, yeah, I'm on about number four right now. Fondez. I'm chilling no, man. Yo, this is strong. Like, I'm only on sip number three. I am so excited right now about you drinking. I just...

Yo, I'm like, I've been... What? I mean, I've drank before. I'm drunk before. Now, am I... See what I'm saying? See how you... If you don't know the words, you might not know. Is it done you're right now? Yeah. I was in right key.

No, this This isn't my first rodeo, but I'll try and continue myself because I still have to go to work after I do this. I have like 12 other jobs to do. You drink during the holidays? I drink, period. I mean. Come on, man. French, what's it called, Fram?

Why does not? I mean, like, seriously, like drink. Like, no. At S&L, I did a shot, I did a celebration shot. Well, because, I know, it was like vodka or whatever at Brooklyn Bowl or whatever. Yeah, I've done. I've done. I mean, it's not.

My preference, like, I'm still a timekeeper. Okay. And that's, you know, I just prefer to... He prefers his drunken meter to be soberly to be calculated. Even my drunken meters calculated. FYI, if Questlove did not have a driver, everybody out there, he would be your designated driver because you are, yeah, very depend. As would I, because I don't drink regularly. Except for tonight.

Man, get out of it. Drunked. Oh, were you here with the, for the, uh, for the Waffle House story? For the Waffle House? Well, yeah. Yeah. Which story? Waffle House.

I got high. The Lines started. I ain't doing that shit no more But yeah, no, I have a limit with my Innebriation I'll get to the line And once I get to my line, I'm good You know what I'm saying?

It's just certain highs I don't need to achieve Like the new weed, they got the K2 That ain't like, well, yeah Wait, K2? Yeah, is that past G-13? Brough, it's some money. You're like so 2001 right now. That's shit to have people like eating

motherfuckers' faces and shit. It's like some walking dead shit. It was really bad. It's synthetic. Yeah, it's really bad around where I live out in Brooklyn. Really? And it's weed? Yeah.

It's not weed. It's like, I don't know what it is, but it's, I guess it's some plan or whatever. And they just spray all these chemicals on it and people smoke it and it just fucks them. I don't need to be a lot. That's real drugs. That's real drugs. So now, I'm not into real drugs. Drugs.

I don't want to do no shit that I got to go to meetings for and show up for meetings and say affirmations and shit. I don't want to do that. I just like to feel a little buzz every now again. Ain't nobody got time for that. But a little, a little, I can't wait for her holiday song. Who? Oh, Jennifer Lewis. Ain't nobody got time for that?

Oh. You know, she's been doing songs depending on the theme. I like her vote song. Can we get Jennifer Lewis on the show, please? Come on, anybody got time for that? I like her get your ass out and vote song. That was good, wasn't it? Get your ass out and vote.

In these streets. Get your ass out and vote. Get your ass out and vote. In these streets. And they ain't even listen. I'm sorry, Jim. So, all right, so here it is, it's the holidays. Is everyone celebrating or, like, do we have any atheists in the house or just poor people?

Poor people. I mean, atheists still celebrate the holidays. No, they don't. Why? Are you atheists? Are you atheists? No, I'm Jewish, but I mean, I'm not like, have you not been here for the past six months? No, no, I know he was Jewish, but I'm saying, I ain't know.

You know if he was practicing Jews. Yeah, practicing. I mean, nobody. practices anymore, you know? Okay. But we still celebrate the holidays. You eat pork too, right? Yeah.

Okay. Don't call him Sugar, Steve, or nothing. That is your Jewish brethren judging you, Steve. He is judging you. Do you eat pork? Nope. Dude. I'm the least Jewie Jew and Jewville.

I'm not. My family are what I like to call sudden Jews, which is like they're going along in their normal life and then there's some holiday or some shit and they're suddenly Jewish. Like my mom is like, boop. This is what, that's why that was my intention

to the first thing I was saying. Jesus, I can't talk. Are you drinking? Weed. Always. Hi. So, the question for you, Unpaid Bill. So what is the difference between you

and like the Hasidic, like the brothers with the hats and the black like. Bill can drive? Are they like the hardcore Jews? The run DMC ones? Yes. Those are the real Jews. The very orthodox practicing types.

Yeah. How many religious people are there in this room right now? But I'm sure we're all celebrating the holidays. Fonte is bathed in the blood of Jesus, don't you do? Besides being bathed in the blood of Jesus. But you're still living in sin, so it's kind of like great. No, I celebrate. I celebrate.

I mean, it's really for my kids, you know what I'm saying? Because for me, like Christmas ended around like 12, 13. Because at that point, it was just for you? I was totally cool. I was totally cool. I had younger brothers. So, I mean, we didn't. We were poor.

So I was like, listen, take care of my brothers. You know what I'm saying? And I still, my mom still, like, was able to do little stuff for me. I still got stuff. But my whole thing was like, make sure my brothers are good. I ain't. So, yeah, like, all right, tell us a poor Christmas. What is a poor Christmas?

Yes. With the, with the music. Okay. Just not true. Poor Christmas. Picture it. Small town, North Carolina. in 1984

I'm sleeping in my bed and I hear some rustling and I'm thinking is that reindeer on my roof? No, it's not. It was my father who I hadn't seen in several years. I'm like,

oh God so so. Oh, God. So not, a poor Christmas is like, listen, man. Oh, oh, oh.

Seventh years. 84. I was five. You haven't seen your father in seven years. Yeah, yeah. Right, right. I haven't seen my father since inception. But, uh, but, uh, a poor Christmas or a late Christmas.

Listen, let me be clear about something. My mother and my grandparents, they always work to make sure that I had a decent Christmas. You know what I mean? And so one of my most, my most memorable. Christmases was when I got the Nintendo. This is when the Nintendo. I have that, too. We got the Nintendo.

And so it was a step up for me because at that point in time, we had been renting the Nintendo. Wait a minute. How do you, that sounds very familiar? Why do I feel like there was a Nintendo rental in my town, too? Dude. No bullshit. That's a thing?

You could rent Nintendo's? No, no, no bullshit. Do you not have friends? There was a, no, because I mean, it was all poor. And none of us had into know There was a small town I lived in Respirinole of Carolina, swear to God There was a video store

It's called Doug's renting video And it was just like You know like any other video rental store Doug's rent a video And they started the very Forward Thinking And I'm sure probably a legal practice Of renting game systems

And so you could rent a Nintendo Like Renaissance You could rent it was like Renna Center Exactly You could rent a Nintendo And so I'm sure I remember, I think my grandmother rented me in Nintendo for like a little bit

and I played it and I had Mike Tyson's punch out and my whole thing was you would try to beat the game before you had to take the shit back. So I was unsuccessful. But... I'm about to say, how... How's it combinations?

My combination, well, I remember, but I learned... Who could you get up to? Oh, man, I think without it, I got up to Tyson. I got up to Tyson and I got beat, but then I got the code

and the code to get directly to Tyson 0.0773-5-9-6-6-3-1-60. Motherfuck! You're not smoking, mother-thes. You still know it? That was the code. 0-0-7373-5-9-63. So, yeah, so I've been renting it

and after just times of just renting the Nintendo, finally I woke up to Christmas morning and I was asleep in my bed. And this was at the time when my, I was living with my wheel and my grandparents. And my grandmother and my grandfather they slept in separate rooms and being a, you know, eight, nine,

10 year old kid. Like a 50s comedy? Yeah, I never saw the dysfunctioning that. But, you know, I never thought, but I was like, man, but they never slept together. I don't know. I didn't get it. But for whatever reason, they didn't sleep

in the same room together. So me and my grandfather slept in the same room in beds. And so my grandfather, you know, he'd be sleeping and he'd have his music on. So I get up and I walk down the hallway and walk through the kitchen and I turn the corner and to turn the corner,

Like that was the surprise moment, nigga. Like that was when like, oh shit, what did I get? And I came in and I saw the Nintendo and I had a TV and they bought me a little TV. And the fun fact about the TV, it later got pawned because my mom's boyfriend at the time was hooked on crack. So he later pawned the television a couple of times. But I got it back. What the? Yo, rewind.

That's the story within the story. I want to hear he got the TV back. I got TV back. I'm rewining this. Okay, how I got the TV back? Well, I don't know the exact particulars. It was the 80s, man. It was a rough time.

You remember the Nintendo Code, but you don't remember the particulars on getting a TV. Yeah, because, I mean, I didn't go into the pawn shop and say, hey. Okay. When you came home from school and saw there was no TV, what was your response? Crack? I knew that had something.

I was like, it's that. It just has to be crap. Oh, my God. So, yeah, so that was my thing. I knew that was what it was. But, you know, we lost the TV a couple of times. We got it back. Lost it?

I had it. Well, or sold it, you know, whatever. Yeah, man, but I had the Nintendo in my room. My mother let me have it in my room in fourth grade. And that was the year I got it. I got the Nintendo with the PowerPad. Oh. You remember the PowerPad?

I remember the PowerPad. The PowerPad was this. piece of electric, it was this, it was this piece of equipment, it was plastic, and it didn't work worth for damn.

No. But it was just loud and like, you know, you could run track and field on the power pad and like jump hurdles and shit. And at the time,

we lived in like a two-story house. So every time I played a power pad, immediately my mother would tell me, like, cut that shit off, make it too much fucking noise. So, so we never, I never really played it much.

But, but yeah, I had the power pad. I had Nintendo in my room. And as long as I kept my grades up, she would let me keep it. But my mother, when my grades were slipped,

she would be extra evil. And so what she would do, she wouldn't take the Nintendo. She would just take the controllers. Just look at it. Just look at it. Look back at it. Wow. So she would just take the controllers.

So I would come home and be in my room looking at this thing that I can't play. That is cruel and genius at the same time. Can I say that things like that are one reason why I want to be a parent? So you be cruel to your children? Just so I can do little things like that. No, wait, wait, wait, Steve. I don't want to put come on. out there like this, but

Cumaul once told me a story of how he literally just took Christmas away from his kids. Like, they woke up the next day to no gifts under the Christmas street. Like, it was like they were there one day and the humbling. It was full on, yes, it was full on the 23rd.

But then, Camal lives to be the Grinch. He loves taking Christmas away. He's so good at it. The humbling. Every kid needs it. So that reminds me of a couple Christmases ago where I got Kamal as my secret

Samar. Oh, yes! I was, I was Kamal from the root child. Yes, keyboard player. Yeah, Kamal. So, um...

Everybody don't know, my fuck. This is him playing piano right now in the background. So, so I was his secret Santa. And, um, so I got him,

uh, I just filled up a box, a cardboard box filled with sodas from our refrigerator from inside the lounge. But wait, tell him how you wrapped it. Oh,

what? I just wrapped it up like a real present, you mean? I thought I told you to get a refrigerator box and put that in another box and then another box and then another box. I'm sorry, no, I just put a bunch of sodas in a box. Talk about work. But I didn't say who, you know, you're not supposed to reveal yourself as Secret Santa,

so I didn't reveal myself for like a week and a half. The mom was mad as shit. He was mad as shit. But it was funny, you know, he was telling everybody on the staff, you know. Yo, who got me sodas? Yeah, he was trying to figure. figured out. And so then eventually I told him who it was and I gave him like a one of those GNC cards for like 25 bucks.

Oh, that was a nice later. Actually, the year you did that, that was the inspiration. See, I'm a guy. See, people feel like they have to try hard like for me. But some of the best gifts I've ever gotten were like the smallest, most minuscule gifts. Like people think like, oh, Mirleaf Soul Train. Let me get him salt. And I'm like, dog, I got every episode of Soul Train. You don't have to get me no more Soul Train. So when you gave him that gift, do you remember what I asked for on my birthday, which is like a month later? I mean, it was like soda. Yeah, everyone got me. My favorite soda was the, um, Pellegrino lemon sodas. Oh my God, man.

That's the best one for you two? Oh, the ones in the cans? The can. Yeah. I like the blood orange choice. Blood orange. Yeah. Yeah. So every, so I got 50 cases. Wow. And surprisingly not diabetes. I got 50. cases of Pelagrina's store for my birthday. Because everybody was just happy you asked for a gift under 20 bucks. He's like, yes! But not, but he, but he's rich, though. So it's like, what do you get done?

What do you give the man who has everything? Well, let me tell you what Questlove got me one year. Well, who got you? What Questlove got me one year. It's not my baby. He bought you a gift? Not my baby. In my life span, it has been twice that I had gotten a gift.

I did not inject it into your womb. Like, it's not to me. I'm like, where are you going with this by year? No, you don't remember? You gave me a gift. me a doll. I gave me a what? You gave me a Mr. Nice Guy Doll. Do you remember this?

Mr. Nice Guy doll? That sounds like something they give you in counseling. Show me on the doll where he touched you. It was a little white man who when you pulled his hand, he would say anything that a woman wanted to hear. And he would say like, no, you're not that. And all the things, you know, just like.

Are you fucking serious? I promise you, I still have it. Yes. Yes. You do not remember. Did I not was that not for me? Did somebody? Is that somebody else? If you don't remember me. I think someone else gave you that gift. No, we were at the bowling.

Zara put the wrong label. It was before Zara. It was before Zeram. Yep, you don't even remember. No, I give my gifts out. That was a joke. That was a joke. I don't do the, hey, get her what she wants.

Well, okay, are you complaining? It was just interesting. It's hard to tell something. No, the doll has been her best friend for the last nine years. I mean, he definitely tells me what I need to hear. It ain't like I got a man. Oh, man. Oh, man. I ain't like I got that.

That was sad. No, it wasn't. For you. Did Fonte finish this story? Yeah, I mean, yeah, it started with Nintendo. It ended with crack. Crag. That was pretty much.

It all comes back to crack with fun. Yeah, in the 80s, it was rough, man. So that was a bad Christmas or a poor Christmas? That was a poor Christmas. But it was good. I mean, listen, I always appreciate it. More than anything else. Like, we would struggle, like, during the year.

Like, it would be times. I might come home to no lights. I might come home to a big yellow sign on the door that says condemned because I water than got cut off. But Christmas was always cool. So I would say that above anything else. My family always made sure no matter how poor we were, Christmas was always, we always had a decent Christmas. We always had it good. So shout out.

Big up to my moms and my uncles and my grandparents for always pitching in. and making sure that the grandkids had what they needed. That's dope, man. We survived. Am I going to take a nap? You know, he was like, yeah. No, I was reflective because this Ducey got me thinking. He was like, so, yeah, it's my life.

So, like, give us, give us a. A broke story. Give us a booed Christmas story. Did you rent anybody? Were you in a relationship during Christmas? Like what's something sweet that a guy did for you? Fuck, I'm so sorry. That's like the wrong question.

Which means it's the right question. No, I say that's the wrong question. Because she doesn't have an answer. Right, because my last relationship, we were only children. And, you know, when you're our only child and you have two parents that are still living, you have to, like, decide. So, like, and my parents are real, like, overly lovingly, real lovey-like. So, yeah, no, it's hard to leave my house on Christmas.

Yeah, so I never really, it's supposed to get sad. I don't think that I've had a. It's a sad question. I don't think I've had a couple Christmas. Seeing her had a boo Christmas? Once I left my mother, she got real pissed and like she cussed me out for a man and I never did it again. Really? It's only child shit.

Don't nobody know about this life. This only child life. So your mother, so your mother was mad because you went with your boo at the time? Right, because I'm her only child. And your mother is single as well. Well, yes. That's what it is. Do you know somebody

because she is a very sexy. How old is your mom? 66 and sexy. Hello. I could. Her name is Karima. Paula, you know she wears push-up bras.

You have me at 66. Yeah. Yeah. Steve, you're dipping with the brown. You down with the brown around. Oh, shit. The old brown. I like the old brown.

I mean, that don't mean, that don't mean nothing. A lot of people made voodoo that doesn't it down with the brown. But good to know. I will introduce y'all. Keep me in mind. I will. Everyone's down. I'm already calling you, Daddy. Please let that happen. He's calling you Daddy. I'm already calling Steve Daddy. Stealing Keith, that. Oh, shit.

Sugar Daddy. So, yeah. I was going to say, Fonte kind of, your broke story, Trump, my broke story, because I was going to say, my dad is an artist. He's like an artist, a drummer, a photographer, and he didn't always have it like that, but he was always a very loving daddy, a very present daddy.

So he didn't have it like that. And one Christmas, while my mother was giving me new stuff, he came in like Santa Claus with a garbage bag full of clothes from a thrift store. And I was like, ah! Thanks, Daddy. But it was the thought. But it was the thought. Yeah, he was present.

Yeah, I've seen girls that ain't got no daddy love, so I'm thankful. You know what I'm saying? Because girls without no daddy love, shit. Y'all know. No, I do know. Girls without fathers, they make for interesting relationships. Oh, Lord. And by interesting, I mean, I'll never fucking do it again.

Like never, ever again. The power of my father in a woman's life. Fonte meets a woman, the first question he asked her is, do you know your father? You know, straight up. It should be a first question, though, because that would really talk about it Fonte. This OG wisdom. Listen, OG told me, he's like, listen,

if she don't love her daddy, she can't love you. And if she don't love her mama, she ain't going to love herself. Wow. Tile of Fonte. Damn. That shit is real. Look, bro. You deep, bro.

Man, listen. Yeah, the, the wisdom. you find in barbershops on the Sarat din. I do say so myself. Waiting on your temple table. I am in 93. That's what you? Okay, I'm trying to think of a poor.

I have a real good. Same year. You have a poor Christmas? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I had a poor Christmas. I didn't even have Christmas, man. I don't know what the fuck you're looking at me for it.

Am I don't have Christmas? So you were how old at 84? I was 13. I was 13. So you were like. Damn. I mean. Thanks.

Thanks, Fonte. No, I mean, I was, no, I'm just saying. Fonte, I wasn't born yet. You, yeah, I was 20. I was 20. No, okay, I knew we were going to have a poor Christmas, and this is back when you only had two pairs of sneakers per year. You had your school sneakers.

And you had your play sneakers. Come on. Talk about it. And so 84 was really when sneaker called, why are you laughing, Bill? Because Fonte makes me laugh, man. He said, talk about it. I've seen Fonte in two weeks, and he makes me laugh.

It's been a minute, yeah. We were killing one. He said, talk about it. Let's culturally. You were already talking about it. He's like, talk about it. That's like, that is a comedy. That is a southern.

In your household, did you have school shoes and then play shoes? Yeah, we'll get on to the non-poor Christmases later. Let's get on the poor Christmas. Is that? You have more than one pair of sneakers? Yeah, I never have more than one pair of sneakers until I was in a dog. offensive. No, I'm with you.

I'm with you. Yeah, I'm making up for it now. No, oh, you know what? You know, well, to be fair, three pair. You had play, school, and church. You had a pair of dress shoes. You all the wear sneakers in the church? I had dress shoes.

No, I had dress shoes. No, I had dress shoes. Yeah, I had church shoes and I had sneakers. I didn't have like play sneakers and school sneakers. And your dress sneakers. That was also, they also alternated. Your church sneakers also alternated as your picture day sneakers. The picture they are in class.

Why are you wearing sneakers in class? I mean, I mean, not sneaker. Picture they're classes. Picture they, you had to take the picture, you know, when you sat on the bookcase. Yeah, but they don't show your feet in this, pictures. He's right. No, but you still want to look clean. We dress from head to toe.

It does not matter. When you dress clean in school, that's like, you know. So anyway, you were 13. You were just born Mitzvitt. What happened? You had sneakers? You sound real Jewish. We knew.

You had the sneakers. Then what? No, we knew it was going to be a bad, I knew it was going to be a bad. I knew it was going to be a bad. bad Christmas and um so i decided to take matters in my own hands because the thing was like sneaker culture was really really i mean we can call it sneaker culture back then but i didn't have that name you know i mean but jordan was just like you know this was the year that was the ones right yeah yeah ones were out this year yeah but in 1984 like this is when the fuckery of paying more

than 45 dollars for a pair of sneakers was starting to creep in So it was all about the patent leather top 10 Adidas. The you, that wasn't the new ones. No, but like, you know what top 10 patent leather? Like, this shoe was like $105, which back then was like. Yeah, nah, that's crazy. So I decided what I was going to do was every day after school, I was going to go to Pathmark.

and for three hours help women carry their bags to the car. For tips? Yeah, for tips. Okay. So then went to my grandma's house, took the Helmand's super-sized mayonnaise jar that she normally keeps for the bacon grease.

Because that is what we do. We reuse grease. Yeah, hell yeah. And so don't waste no grease. Right. So I took that and basically saved up $115 worth of change and took that entire thing to Samson sneakers

on 52nd Street. Wow. Two days before Christmas and I just gave them. I was like, this is 100 and you just looked at me. He's like, just take my word for it. Boy, if you don't, but he, dude gave me that look like,

you don't get out here and go to that bank across the street and come back with some real money. So I literally had to take all my pennies and all my nickels and all my dimes and all my quarters. But the crazy thing about that, man, I did that as recently as 2001. Oh, it's a coin star, the TD? Listen! Listen! Dude, I paid...

I moved out of Harlem in 2012. That was the last time I did that. You did coin star? Wait, hold on. Rich people question. Do you know what coin star is in me? Rich people question. No, I don't.

Okay, Coinstar. 2014 was the last time I did this. College. This is how you fucking get through college. You go through the seats and you put it. Yeah, you put it coin star. So right now there's CoinStar deposit. They're still there.

I think it was you like in Kroger, Hersey, whatever? Or if you have a TD bank account, you can just take your whole change and throw it there. Or you can give them a percentage if you don't have an account. Oh, no, I don't have an account. I don't play that game. Yeah, I did that. I paid my card note with Corn Star one time. I used to have a jug in my room.

And like, every time, like, I broke a dollar. or whatever just had changed after the day. The little water jug, right? The little water jug, and I just throw it in there. And I put that shit, I just saved it over time and took it to Corn Star and the crow grew up the street before I lived at. That shit was like $170. I paid my fucking card over that shit.

You was killing the game. $1. $1.70 in $0.01. Yeah. I was living. I felt good with $40. Like, if you could get $40 out of your change, you was killing it. Yeah, no, you was good.

You was good. That was around the time, like, $40. That was the time I was giving, like, I used to give, and me and me and, 955th, if he comes back, we'll talk about. I used to give plasma for bread. No way. Say what? Say what?

I don't understand. I swear to God. Sweat of God. Wait, what? Like blood? Yeah, get plasma. No, dude, I bullshit you not, bro. I used to give plasma.

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My dad gave me the best advice ever. I went and had lunch with him one day. And I was like, and Dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved.

And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot in luck.

Listen to Thanks Dad on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. So yeah, so do. Okay, so you learn a lot of things about the human body when you're desolate. What? So listen, so there was a place up the street from where, from our school, North Carolina Central is like most black colleges, the shit is in the fucking hood. So right up the street, like round the way, there was a plasma donation center. And so essentially what it was is if you gave plasma, they would give you money for it.

and so but they had limits you could only donate within a certain amount of time so say if you came in like on a Monday and you give your first donation and they give you like 20 bucks and then you came back like a couple days later and you gave a second donation they would give you like 40 bucks so then if you came back a third time a couple days later I think it dropped to maybe like 30 and then after three times you couldn't give no more for like a while were you dead by the yeah dude the thing was it was a time thing. So what it was, they would hook you up to these machines. And this is at a point of my life where I really realized, like, I got to do

something else. I got to make a change. Because, you know what I mean? Because I'm in there literally with dope things. I mean, like, seriously, it's like dope. Why they're giving their blood? Well, here's the thing. They screen you for all kinds of, they screen you for whatever. So it also worked if you didn't

have health insurance. HIV and everything that. So if you could give plasma, you knew you were cool. And one time, they called. They called. Is it blood? No, no, it's Plasma. Okay, here's the thing. Okay, there's blood and then there's the plasma that's inside the blood. So, like, what it is, they give you the, you give the blood.

Merry Christmas. Is this really? Yeah. It's so. Yeah. The look. Google. No, no, no, no, no. I want to know too. I'm not, no, no. I'm going to hear. Google. No. No, nigh. You're doing this. I'm just saying, the look on Bill's face right now.

I wish the audience, I wish to our listeners, if we still have the three of your left. All five of y'all. My mom. We ran out of a I feel like the fact that this was the thing that made you want to make a change, the giving plasma with crackhead

thing. That's what it. That's, you're like, oh, oh, shit. Now. Yeah, and when I say make a change, I mean, clearly, like, I was just like, man, I got, I mean, because I wasn't like, fucking up. I had graduated college and I was working. I had a job, but it still just wasn't working.

You a college graduate? I was a college. I was a college graduate. What was your job? Welcome to the world. My job at the time was working for... It was Blue Cross. I was working in the call center. Blue Cross Blue Shield working at the call center. And so at the time, so you would go in and they would give you, they would hook you up to the machine

and it would take your blood. And then it ran... You were living off the medical industry. Hey, bro. Yo, listen, I lived off the medical industry. I lived off of... Because where I lived there, Research Triangle Park, they would have studies. So, like, you could, like, for like,

experimental drugs and shit. This explains a fuck ton. I was, they had, like, smoking studies, so, like, I lied and told them I smoked cigarettes and, like, made, like, $75. Oh, they still do those things. You know, I have a girlfriend.

She always does those. Yeah, oh, yeah. You can get $150 for focus groups? For focus groups. Yeah. Dude. Can I do this? This is a hustle, man.

I don't know. Your quest love. I think, Pee, I think your cover would be blown. You should. They'll pay you more. What about sperm banks? You do the sperm banks. You do the sperm banks.

I didn't want to pay child support. I wasn't fucking with that But I wouldn't do this roommate But yeah I would get plasma And the sad thing about it Like it was crazy A guy I worked with

That I knew from I was gonna say did you get caught Well yeah I mean not caught But yeah It was a guy I worked with At Blue Cross And I think by this time

He had kind of I hadn't seen him in a minute But anyway Saw him in there And I was like Oh what's up What you doing? He was like man

I need to get this bread The guy ended up dying. He ended up getting killed, I want to say, a year later, because he tried to rob a store and got killed. He was a buddy of mine. So basically what you're saying is don't work for Blue Cross Blue Shield because they don't pay shit. Man, listen. Don't, yeah. That jamming Blue Cross Blue Shishol. Just stay away from.

Radio 1 too. They'll be doing names. I'm shouting things out. Give him plasma, man. Yeah, you get plasma. Pandora? That too. I don't know. They don't pay me. Scott, they pay a kid.

Yeah, yo's here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Talk to him, yeah, yo. Call him out. Talk your shit, son.

Exclusive. Today's episode of Questal Supreme is brought you by Blue Cross. And Pandora. But no, man, I just look at all the times of my life and I'm glad. I've come a mighty long way from giving plasma and watching movies with crackheads.

And like they would give you, you would take it, they take your blood and it's a long process because they have to put it through the machine to separate the plasma from your blood. Fee bill, this is what... So they take it out and then they put your blood back in you and it's a long time.

They give it back to you. How do you know it's yours? It was. You're at the machine. And one time they called me back and was like, we can't use your blood and I was like, oh shit, I'm about to die. I was like, what the fuck?

We can't use your plasma. I was like, oh shit. But I went in and she was like, did you do something before you got here? Did you eat something? And I was thinking, I was like, you know what? And it was the day I had a quarter-pounder before I went in. And that fucked up my plasma.

I thought you're going to say you went to Waffle House or something. No, no, no, I didn't. No, shit, I couldn't afford Wapha House then. Wap House was fine down. And that was like, if you take a bitch to Waffa House. I knew plasma so you get some Wapha. Yeah, that was it. So you get the quarter-pounder.

Yeah, Wap House was the fucking tired of the menu. At least you wasn't resorting to crystals, so you are. Crystles. What's that, crystals? A White Castle, it's like Crystal's White Castle, you got one to two. Oh, yeah. That shit was horrible. So, uh, so no, man.

It was a crazy time of my life. But that's why I'm thankful for what I have now. Because I remember I used to have to give my blood to make gas money. Very Christmas, sir. You own this show, bro. This is officially Fonte Supreme. No, no. All right.

So let's go on to the, uh, the happy side. of town. Oh, to the rich side. Talk about a rich. Hiconica. Wait a minute. If I do a rich man. Here's the thing.

Here's the thing why. So as Jewish guys, as kids, Christmas was, you know, most people were celebrating Christmas, but the Jewish kids, we had the seven nights. So we get the one present each night for seven nights.

Plus, we have the big weekend bonanza Christmas. Christmas. morning type joint. Wow. Damn. Don't say we.

What was that like? Because I didn't have that shit. No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't sell them out. No, I mean, that's what we do. I mean, you get one present each night and that's like, you know, socks. I'll be honest with you. It's not a big deal.

Oh, I see. I see. But like, then you get like the Christmas morning type Hanukkah thing where, you know, this shit little presents. Yeah. And that's when you get all the video games and all that. What? You were, but no, I was poor.

No. No. But it was, uh, it was like, seven it was like you could pick in my house you could pick the day when you got the cool thing whether it was the first day or the last day and then the rest of it was shit so like it sucked I thought it sucked in comparison

to now having celebrated Christmas it just felt like there's no like pomp and circumstance of Christmas and Santa and Fonte's dad on the roof there's none of that shit there's just fucking candles and bullshit so it did like by day seven you're like I need another fucking pair of socks that so as Bill Sherman

as a Jew do you feel like you got short changed yes only because when I got married I got to celebrate Christmas and I was like this shit's way better than Hanukkah Really?

Yeah So you're saying that you didn't have the same experience that Steve had Yeah I had the best of both worlds I think Yeah

You're just winning all the time Everybody was Jewish But we treated it like Christmas Okay So do you look forward To coming home for Christmas Me? I'm sorry Hanukkah

Coming home The holidays Oh yes I'm trying out than nobody. Yes. I call it Shaka Khan technically. Yeah, well, you know what happens.

It's spelled the same. Chinooka. You know what happens at my Hanukkah. Yeah, man, I'd be praying for you. What happened? What happened? That's where they cut the checks. Come up.

Come up. I don't understand. Every year, I've been known Steve for 20 years, and it's always the same. It's the come up. Like, last. Two people on this planet pay me. One of them's in this room, and the other guy visited Hanukkah.

Yeah. No, but should be real. Has anyone? Celebrated Quanza? No. Quanza is the Joanne the scammer of holiday. Oh, shit. That shit is...

You are killing the black community. I cannot. No, Quang is a fucking hoax. I'm going to have to leave. I cannot. I've never celebrated a shit in my life. That's okay. But you have to respect it, just like you respect Christmas and...

I respect it. I respect it in the sense that I never celebrate it. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm going to press... I'm going to press... I'm frustrated it. I'm so confused. I want to go back to the replay.

Can you repeat that quote one more time, please? Kwanza is the Joanne the scammer of holidays. How is it a scam when you ain't even got to buy shit? No, it's the fucking scam. Come on. Why is it a scam when you ain't got a buy shit? Yo, it's like, listen, man, it's, okay. They properly explain to me, Laya.

What is the process of the founder of Kwanza, everything? I'm not going to get into the history of. He's just funny. His name was Corringen. His name was Howard Cohen. No. Wait, wait. Is it like Dr. Yor?

No. Am I allowed to say that? Dr. York, yeah. You're on the right. Oh. He was, he's not quite Dr. York, but he was a guy that was in.

Oh, can we talk about Dr. York for those that don't know? Oh, that's just such a fun story. No, because we talk about the holidays and Dr. York followers don't follow the holidays. I've seen Dr. York beat downs. Well, he beat down people or he got me? No. What, people like?

Wait, is it over now? Like, is he... No, he's in jail, ain't he? Yes, because you know who goes to... But his sons are deep. Who are we talking about? Yes. Okay, okay, all right.

Let's bring this down. Dr. York. Okay, let's be, okay, let's back up. Okay, I'm like my E.N.T. So give us down. Merry Christmas, everybody. Dr. York. Dr. York.

Okay, Dr. York. I just going to get my quons. To refer to Dr. Malachi York. Mm-hmm. And he was the leader. I'm putting on the appropriate Halloween effect for this. Go. So he was the leader of what was

known as the Nubian. Was that it? It was the Nubian. They had a lot of names. They had a lot of names. And they were like a group of black. They were like a super kind of smart dumb niggas. Man, listen.

Basically. They were like a super, like a sect of like super black nationalist kind of radical group of people. But also they had a lot of ties to hip hop because they had a lot of. So many ties to hip-hop. A lot of great rappers, five-percenters, they were all into it. So, I mean, you're talking.

Not the five-picers were into it, but I'm just saying them too. Yeah, they were, it was kind of sort of the same thing. Wait, no, no, it's not. Can we talk about Dr. York music career? Yes. I'm not that well-versed in it. That's how I knew about it.

I know Isaac Hayes produced it. Wait a man, that's weird. Isaac Hayes produced his record, and he's a Scientologist. Damn, what was Isaac Hayes searching for in his life? But Isaac Hayes became a Scientologist later in life, right? Yeah, yeah. When he really got his bread.

Still searching. But it was just out of the frying pin into the... The fire. I mean, into the damn gas pit. So anyway. The gas pit? That was a save. Yeah.

So listen, bro. Okay, so Malachi York. So he was a guy, he had a lot of times. A lot of people follow him. M.F. Dome. Yeah. Doom.

Yeah. Doom. Yeah. Doom was one of Doom. I want JZ was... loose i mean a couple's degrees separated of course i know boss was deep into it back in 96 because he tried to pull new rod into it

ah yeah yeah okay yeah so anyway but anyway so he was like a guy that was more or less like a cult leader he ended up going to jail for like was it some child something like that but wasn't leslie snipes also in that shit too absolutely absolutely that's why that niggins thought he didn't have to pay no taxes they they showed his ass like aye blade We're about to care your ass in jail I don't like that we are talking about this

in parallel to Kwanza but continue on But no but we're getting We're getting there We're discussing black cult leaders So So listen we got to bring this shit all home The guy who started Kwanza was Ron Koringa And he was like pro-black

Like super black militant Nationalist guy he was also a government informant. Stool pigeon. Fonte, how the fuck do you know this? It's everyday survival. Everybody kind of knows, but some people like choose to ignore or they can't. We don't have the comfort of putting, you know, our heads into the turtle shells.

Like you got to, you out here and, you know, you can easily get got. And I will say this about you, Amir, I would say doing this podcast, doing this radio show, with you. Wait, do you know that? Yeah, dude. Yeah. I will say, man, you said it a couple of shows ago

when you were like, yo, where you were like, listen, you know, all the music I know people think is because I love music. And it's like,

yeah, I love music, but it's for my survival. You know what I mean? That shit is real. And when you did the first Quest Love Supreme Mix and I listened to the songs you pick,

I was like, yo, Amir is black as fuck. You know what I'm saying? Not that I ever question your blackness before, like, because I'm not that guy. but I was like, yo, he's like, like one of my cousins black.

Like, he's black, you know what I'm saying? But it's like, I understand. Was that the full force song? Well, he was, dude, I was like, yo, he, damn, you know about this? Oh, the 90s, your own. So, yeah, so we have to know these things like for survival. So, yeah, Ron Goringa, he was black nationalist, super pro-black, pro-black guy, but he was apparently also a government informant.

And so he created this thing called Kwanza. and Kwanza was supposed to be, I guess, the black answer to Christmas. Not really, not really, no, neither. Not really an answer, but to give African Americans some sense of cultural tradition that has a link to like West Africa or Africa. So, and yes. To get blacks an alternative to the existing holiday and an opportunity to celebrate themselves in their history rather than simply imitate the practice of the dominant society. Off the top of the dome, Bill! Wikipedia, I don't know.

Oh, damn. You the fuck you can. No, I couldn't see it. In my preview, I thought he was spent off the top of the door. Because technically people forget their Christianity was forced on black people as slaves and it became a way to keep them subdued or whatever. We went to change that and a whole

situation or whatever, but it was not our original religion, okay? But the thing was... But this is not a religion either. This is just a cultural tradition. Yeah, but it's like, it's fucking phony. It's just some shit. No, he may be phony, but the actual tradition of Kwanza and what has become, much like your use of nigger, is not

phony. The way that people choose to practice it, meaning that the word nigger has changed to you. You know what I'm saying? But 100 years ago was something different. So, Miles Keringa is a person who has certain falsities and shit with him. Okay. And they got nothing to do with what he has created. And I've been to so many amazing, amazing Kwanza celebrations where we talk about the principles that have nothing to do

with anything monetary or material. Okay, so let's break down the course of Kwanza. There's Ujima, you Jama Oh shit Nita are you okay Is another one You are sounding soul Carolina right now

Nick Annie are you okay And in an attempt not to really sound like an East Coast liberal black motherfucker The principles are

Uboja Joe Joe Yvani Fonte just won No he didn't For Carolina But for the rest of the people

I got to bring it back. I'm sorry. Here we go. Drunk. It's not right, yo. Dr. Drunk. Drunk, too, because that's... It's not right, man.

Very appropriate, right. It's not right, man. Everybody should celebrate Kwanza. Break down the principle, the seven days of Kwanza and what each day means. The moja means unity, which is to strive for and maintain unity in the family community. Education. Wait, Bill is talking. Let our boss speak.

Okay, run it back from the top. I'm reading off Wikipedia, so we know we're getting facts. But just say it like you're talking. And say it like you actually been to a Cwanza celebration. The seven to seven principles of Quanza. Run it down. Boss Bill. All right.

Emoja. I'm going to do him in English. Motherfucker, it is in English. Y'all about to really piss me all. It's that. Look, Umoja. Let me do it. Umoja.

It means unity. Cooji Chungalia. That is not English. Motherfucker. Wait, it's Swahili, right? It's Swahili. Wait, it's Swahili. It's not English.

Did you just say Mr. Dabalina? I would like to apologize to all of the woke and conscious black people out there to this show. Yeah, you're about to lose this show. Because I want you to know that I am here for you. If nobody is here for you, I am here.

Laia can't have done nobody else care. Motherfucking right. Peace to you. Okay, run now, Laya. Umoja. Unity. Kooji Chungalia. Self determination. Ujima.

Collective work and responsibility. Ujama. Cooperative. economics. Nia. Purpose. Cuamba. Creativity.

Andy Moni. Faith. Now you know what that name me. There's a lot of people named me Moni. He's beautiful. Bob Dobalina. Beautiful.

Mr. Davelina. Mr. Bob Davelina. Mr. Bob Daubilina. Wait, so you have to know that each night something. So each night you celebrate that. So like, you know, if you happen to be in a Kwanza celebration and it's the day,

I've been on an emoja day where it's the day of and you sit and discuss with a room of people. You talk about how you are celebrating unity today. What did you do? and how can you continue to do that? You know what I mean?

Same thing for all of those. They're all principles that we can continue about. It's for all cultures. What was the second or third one, conalinguish? I want to go on that night. Each of those words represent a new night. Yes.

Good traffic. That's a lot to remember. That's a lot to remember. You could just Google it at any time. I know those words. Because what if it's a Jima night and you show up and want to be Ujama? Like what happens?

And you change your motherfuckin' mind. Yeah, what if it's... It's pajamas, man. If it's Ujima, you went from working together to Ujama, which means supporting each other. Come on, man. Okay. Well, you know, you already know, I love you like a play cousin. I love you too.

So, you know what I mean? But I don't support Quasas. I've always thought it was a quack holiday. But listen, whatever you, if it brings you together, if it's Quans or whatever. We ain't got no other African-American holidays. It's just this and Juneteenth, just so you know. And Juneteenth is like, I don't celebrate that because that shit is like, June th is like basically for the niggas that found out.

No, June Teeth is the last day that. There was slavery, okay, official last day. Even though it ended two years before that, in Texas it only ended. Yeah, but it was essentially for the niggas that found out late. So it's not, I don't feel like we should celebrate the slowest of our culture.

Yeah, I mean, I don't feel like we should celebrate the niggas that found out that slavery ended two years. You know, while that's funny, that's not true. But you know, that's funny, but it's not true. But not it's not that they found out too late. Like the white people was like, fuck you. I'm going to do it when I feel like you. But that was cute the way you remix it.

And everybody should watch. Donald Glover's episode of June team on Atlanta and then you'll understand a little bit deeper. But I've never, I've never celebrated Juneteen. No, me neither. So now, I think the closest we have to a black holiday would be, God, what is the black holiday that we have? Quanza! No, is it King Day? No, that's an American holiday.

We fought for that to be an American holiday, so we don't call that a black holiday. Okay, so what's like a black holiday? I just told you, it's June Teeth and Contra. Yeah, but I'm saying, you got to have something else. Like, is it like the name? I'll celebrate. June 25th Michael Jackson Day, but... Right, right, right.

I mean something like that. Or let's talk about... Let's talk about the elephant in the room James Brown dying on Christmas. Like, dude. I mean, we have to do something that has to be... I mean, that's the elephant in the room? Well, not.

James Brown dying on Christmas is the elephant in the room. No, dude. Are you fucking kidding me? We haven't discussed that, man. No, we haven't. Because we were talking about... Jesus and James. Like, dude, I remember...

being sad on that Christmas. Like James Brown died. I'm with you on that, Fonte. Yo, I was a buck for like a good five minutes, but I'm back with you. You're a workwife and you were not. Yeah, me and my workwife, we back. We back together again.

Makeups and break up. That's all we do, boo. Yo, hold up. Let's pause for the cause real quick. And when we come back, we'll move into hour two of the show and continue our discussion about our Christmas memories, our favorite holiday songs and James Brown's untimely Christmas demise. You're listening to a special Christmas 2006 edition of Quest Love Supreme

All right, I have a question for the group. Oh, here we go. What's your favorite fucking Christmas song? Thank you, Steve. Thank you. I literally was trying to look up my notes on how to turn this conversation around and you beat me to it. Where is my phone? I have one that I think

that you might not have. I have a few. Okay, well, I You're going last. God, dog, and I raise my hand first? But if it doesn't work like that, I'm just kidding. Go ahead. Okay. So I have a list, but One of my favorites for the region would be Chuck Brown, Merry Christmas, Baby. Really?

I don't know if any. I know that everybody's not familiar with the Gogo. No, no, I know he had a Christmas song, though. He did Merry Christmas, baby. I hope they treat you right. Hey, rest in peace to Chuck Brown. If you don't know, he was the godfather of Gogo, and it is straight D.C. Maryland and Virginia music, but it fucking kills.

No, it does. If you know, like, uh. This is Chuck? This is Chuck. That was Chuck Brown, the soul's urges. Merry Christmas baby. Hey, can I, since you're the resident D.C. person here at Laia. My thing with Go-Go is how come none of the studio versions...

Sound like the live version? Come off good. Like, I get it, but it doesn't compare to the live version. I know. I don't know what I... The energy just is the... Yeah, I don't know. But when they take...

They do make albums to tape live and then, you know, you just sell it like that. That's the way you got to do it. We got to buy a live joint. All right. So is there a place in D.C. that has... Can we do a go-go episode? I would love to.

Whoa. Really? Yeah. I really would like to do a go-go episode. Oh, my God, Bill. That's so awesome. Yeah. And then we could play, like, the people who, like, made go-go songs, like salt and pepper.

And, like... No, I want to play like... No, no, no. No, no, no. But, no, that's real, though. Like, you, because, like, how we, not how we tea, but, uh, Kirby Love, but. They used a lot of Google samples.

Yeah. Rolling a kid and played with straight Gogo. The room doesn't know what Gogo is. Yeah, we do. Gogo is a very, very regional. I know, again, Bill is the loan. Very regional. Actually, I shouldn't say it because I'm not from D.C.

Lai. No, I, I don't, I'll have D.C. Go. Let me do it, because it's really, it's really percussion-based. My thing is that. Very percussion-based, right. The, the rhythm of go. Go-Go is actually based from a Philly song, which kind of...

Say what? What a really song? Now you start in trouble. What are you talking about? No, because, I mean, at the end of the day, Go-Go's rhythm bass is based on this. Oh, no. You're sitting... Yeah, right.

But wait, how old is that, though? What's the year? I mean, Mr. Magic 73. Yeah, so yeah. Shit, you might be right. This is the Mr. Magic by Grover Washington. Yes. From the album, Mr. Magic.

Grover Washington Jr. It's not Bosnville. Not Bosnville. This is like a D.C. favorite song. Like, I was raised on this song. That's so funny. Right. So.

Hey. Shut up. Do you ever dream? Can we talk about that credit card scam one day? Yo! Yeah! Wait. Oh.

Wait, are we the rabbit on way down to rabbit. Let's stay a little board. Okay. I think I know what you're talking about. You know. Oh, of course you know. But wait, Scott still don't know what go. Okay, go-go.

Yeah, go-go. Basically, like, it's, I mean, the rhythm of go-go, I feel, has been derivative of a Philly song, which is Mr. Magic. That ain't the way to describe. That's, that's, that's a really wrong way to describe it. Yeah, because it's percussion. It's a very percussion. And that doesn't sound.

Yeah, just get in the, I'll play pump. me up, which is the quintessential. Trouble funk. Trouble funk. But really, Go-Go is a lot of Cungas. There's a lot of drums. What you call it?

Bishes ain't shit by Dr. Dre is, what is that? Inch. Trouble funk. Trouble funk. And Go-Go-Go can only be performed with a live, like a band. A full band, Coongas, drums, everything.

It is D.C., Virginia, Maryland, and really is kind of interesting because it kind of stuck there. One of your favorite singers, Art Garfunkel appeared in the movie He's pointing at me I'm sorry That actually

My explanation didn't say much And who was me? That's Sugar Steve Art Garfunkel Thought that the feature Go-Go was going to really come Well him and Chris The owner of Ireland records

Chris Blackwell Chris Blackwell Like they really thought like 1986 is going to be the year Like Gogo's going to explode And so they did this movie called Good to Go where it's

Yo! I vaguely remember that. Yeah, it didn't do shit. It didn't do it. And Chris Blackwell thought that Gogo in the 80s was going to do for him what reggae and Bob Marley did in the 70s. And it was unfortunate that it didn't.

But I mean, Rick Rubin signed the Junkyard band to Def Jam. Really? I didn't remember. Sardines in the Word are on Def Jam. Talk about W-R-N-A-D. Junkyard band is the first Def Jam group to get the new or the classic Def Jam logo, not the Maroon old school Def Jam logo of the Beastie Boys.

Jumpyard is a legendary Go-Go band, Scott. Yeah, but Pump Me Up is like one of the famous, this is one of the, probably the best studio example of Go-Go. Pump-Bum-Up! Really percussive. Y'all ain't got no Go-Go Pandora Station? Oh shit about to change around here. Is there one? This is also the song that Q scratched in juice.

That's right. Wow. That's right. That's right. And I believe last night, Pete Rock revealed that he was doing the... He did the cuts were... Well, not last night. Not last night.

A long time ago. I'm so drunk. I thought it was last night. It was a few weeks ago with Mary. Yeah. Lay off the Doucet. Well, I'm surprised that music didn't catch on. You know what, Steve?

I hear your shade. Anyway, so yeah, I mean, but Go Go Music is The But, do y'all know The But? Black, oh. That was like the biggest, probably the closest mainstream. There's a really great oral history on, from Marcus Miller, noted jazz basses, producing that record with EU or the trouble. The But?

Yeah, because he. Oh, I know that sounds like a crazy sentence. Well, no, I mean, Marcus Miller, you know, he produced Luther, Vandros, like, he was doing some... Damn, I didn't know he was that, like, that's interesting. I never... Yeah, absolutely. So, Marcus Miller produced it, and half of the school day soundtrack. Wow, that's an awesome soundtrack.

Yeah, we got it, we have to get Marcus. Shout out to the Rays, Be Alone Tonight, the best song of the soundtrack. Oh, my God. Tisha Campbell's, whenever she sings that at her club in L.A., like, it's still a moment. Yo, the last time I saw her singing, AJ came on stage, and they were going to sing. We did it together and I lost my mind. I still got it in my phone. Oh my God.

No, wait. I'm sorry, that's house party. But you know what I'm saying. She did do. I don't want to be alone tonight. That's amazing. I'm here to see. But AJ did come on stage.

Wow. This is, this is. It's nice. Okay, what's your favorite Christmas song? Fucker. Yo. There's so much. I'm sorry.

You got to look to the left right at that at that moment. There's a whole new world. We won't even have to describe what's going on right now. Calm down. I thought we're not supposed to stick shit. All right, never mind. Okay, we go over Washington. Be quiet.

Yes. Anyway. My favorite. So, that's your favorite song. Like, uh, Chuck Brown. I think it's only right. Do you know, keep it low. Wow.

That was a long tangent. Oh, you know how it is. Because it was Go-Go, though. You know what I mean? And people don't know. You know, I apologize for even incitement. The rabbit hole that is this show. That's my fault.

Yeah. My favorite Christmas song, I would probably say, Clarence Carter, Back Door Santa. Yes. Of course. That's such a disrespect. That was on my list. That was on my list.

I'd be stroking. That's what I'd be doing. I'd be stroking. Stroking to the east. I'm stroking to the west. I stroke it to the woman that I love best. I'm a stroking. Let me ask this question.

What time of the day do you like to make love? Have you ever made love in a car? Have you ever made love to a super stop? You're welcome, world. That's what happens after. I only know Stoken based on the commercials. You used to go on BT. How did you know it past the...

No, because that was a statement. I don't know the words of Stoken. Salt like that. Stroker used to get played on the radio. We would play it on the radio. Yo, I actually... No, never mind. Anyway.

Backdoor Santa, Clarence Carter. Some of you hip-hop heads will say this sounds mighty familiar. Oh, wow. I got that one. Can I guess this? Is this bitch you guessed it? It's Clarence Carter, Backdoor Santa, yeah Oh, sorry

They call me Backdose Santa I make my runs about to break a day Some serious stereo separation on that song All right Yeah, Clarence Carter, he had That was another one, it was that one Clarence Clarenda with Backdoor Santa Questlo Supreme

Questlo Supreme. Questlo's Supreme, On Impendor, live from Electual Lady Studios And he had that one, he had stroking And he also had... Patches. That was another Southern. I've never heard.

Patches was so depressing. It was depressing as fuck. Patches, I'm depending on you, son. Wait, here's the funny thing about Patches. That, keep you just saying it?

Well, Patches was when we worked, when the roots worked on our 16th record, 16th, when we worked on, and then you shoot your cousin.

Richard Nichols, our dearly departed producer and manager, said that he wanted the album version of patches, like just a very depressing, gut-wrenching song. That's what's up. Y'all did that. You did that. Mission accomplished. Yeah, man.

Yeah, man. Anyway, I got a song I want to choose. What's you got? You can tell us before you just drop it? Yeah. I got to find it first. What's your favorite Christmas holiday song, boss? I got a whole Christmas mixtape, you do?

And I ran it last Christmas. Yeah, it was it. Wait, you rented it? No, I ran it. I ran it. Just get on. You could rent Nintendo and mixtape. Yeah, you had the day.

You put the Dana Dane's on on that joint. I sure did. Dana's coming to town. Man, that was a lot. I mean, that was the first time I heard the long red breakbeat alone. Yeah. I actually purchased that profile. It's still up on the internet.

Yeah. I gotta find that. The artist is... Maybe. Actually, you know what? Wendy Williams played this on her show. The very first time I spoke to... Back when he was her psychic.

Charlemagne. Yeah, first time I ever spoke to Charlemagne. I called the station and asked him to send me the song. I never heard it before, but it's one of my favorite Christmas songs. Wendy Williams put you on. This is the other one where it's not Christmas until I hear this song. Yes. This is Santa Claus is a black man

By Akim Oh word Teddy Van That is a very important song That Santa Claus is a black man Because And the reason why it's important Is because listen

I think that Did you just sit up? As black people I did Because it's a black father You don't want your You listen I know you're going with this Come on

My brother My D'Artrella and brother Say it say it I tell my kids That Santa Claus is me, motherfucker. Oh, well, yeah. Because all the shit that I do to provide,

I'm not going to give the credit to a fucking white man. Do you running down the fucking chimney? No, nigger. It wasn't him. It was me, nigga. Got them hosting Questloff Supreme and doing Tigallero. Do you grab them by the college? Do you grab them by the collar when they said with it?

Fatee. Shit. I'm like, listen, bro, it was me because I think that, like, listen, no. And this is real. I think black people from, if you look at like, Jesus. And then, like, Santa Claus and shit, where those are, like, in mainstream, you know, portrayals,

those are white men that are always saving niggers. So, like, from, like... They see you when you're sleeping? They know when you're awake. I'm like, the all-knowing white man. I'm like, nigger, this nigger knowing I'm sleeping, I'm awake. So I got to be good for his sake.

Fuck out of here. So no. You are Santa Claus. It's me. Santa Claus is here because of me. Because of Questlo's Supreme, me flying back and forth. Got the New York, goddamn Ticolero for an exchange. Nigger, I had to fucking go to the Grammys still for at this house.

Nigga, it was me. It ain't no, nigga, coming down the fucking chimney. Plasma. You sold a lot of plasma. You sold a lot of plasma for that. I sold my life force for this shit. So, no, I think it's important for black people. I think over the years of seeing those figures of like white men saving niggers,

I think that affects your psyche after a while. So that is why I think it's important. No, I'm totally in the moment, dude. I'm totally cool. Bill Sherman, favorite holiday song. Yo, Steve is slowly driving the show. Sting is driving. I'm with it.

I'm actually curious. This is the one thing I actually give a shit about here. This is it? Well, this is what I came into the interview wanting to find out. I have three. So tell me your song already. We only doing one now.

We only doing one? I want to know everybody's least funny. Donnie Hathaway this Christmas. Yes. Okay. Oh, Bill. Ladies and gentlemen, that was, of course, the Donnie Hathaway classic this Christmas, chosen by, of all people.

Unpaid bill. Just glad you did. The whole motherfuckers didn't think I was going to say that. Am I right? Because it got real quiet. It really did. It really got quiet. Sounds of control.

Give us your real June. My favorite is Blue Christmas, Bob Monroe and Miles Davis' Ex-State, do you know that one? That's a good one. Wait, you're talking fast. You're talking like he is a speech. And Dominic, the Italian Christmas donkey, which is a fucking amazing song.

What is it? Dominic, the Italian Christmas donkey, trust. I'm just glad you didn't say grandma got ran over by her. I used to listen that song and eat chicken noodle soup and my friend Kevin Porter's house every fucking Saturday. That's true. A win is a win.

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My favorite Christmas song is Vince Goraldi's Christmas time. Yeah, that's good. So that's my favorite Christmas song. Great song. I'm with you. I'm with you, I'm with your brother. All right. So, Steve, what is your favorite Shaka Khan jam?

My favorite Christmas song is, Do They Know It's Christmas by Band-Aid? which is I'm sure you remember when the 45 came out Yeah I remember when it premiered on Friday night videos Yeah that was I remember buying the 45 like at Sam Goody

or something It was at the counter And a special thing Because money went to charity So you felt like you were doing your part To feed the world No I just liked the song Like Phil Collins was on it

It was like a whole bunch of British people And Jolie And cool and again It was the white we are the world Right Yeah Yeah. And they both bad Africa.

Yeah, but this was before we are the world. Yeah, it was. It was like a year or so. Oh, really? Oh, wow. So they were, okay. Yeah, Bob tells off. We started live aid.

Hands Across America was biting off of We Are the World. All right, show of hands. Did anybody participate in Hands Across America? Did you really have to go outside and hold hands? Yeah. Oh, no. I ran, I just button line. Like, I was supposed to, you registered somewhere and then they gave you a number.

And then you're supposed to go there. But the location they gave me the hold hands was like somewhere deep in North Philly. Oh, wow. And even if I'm not from North Philly, the way that I said North Philly lets you know that. Yeah, you know what it is. It was near MLK Boulevard in North Philly. They're holding hands up there? So I missed this.

Hands across America. Niggas was going outside holding hands. Like, that really happened? Yeah. Was it Kenny Rogers? Like, who started hands across America? I remember the song. I'll look it up.

So was this like... And you just hail hands. So this was basically the 80s Manichin Challenge. Yeah. Without a way to document. Yeah, it was. I remember I was... I tried to cut church late.

Or not... I cut it early because I wanted to buy Run Dem C's Raisin Hell. So I ran in the mall. You cut church to go buy Raising Hell. And hold hands. Just the position of that. So I caught Raisin Hell. I picked a red cover.

because they had multiple covers. Yep. And then I got off the trolley and saw everybody holding hands and was like, yeah, this is my cue to not go to North Philly. Like, you weren't supposed to just butt in line and hold someone's hand. But I did. You had to make a reservation to hold somebody in hand. Okay.

But what was this supposed to show like solidarity or unity, unity? The whole point was that America was supposed to hold hands with each other from California all the way to New York. Like, I got some hands across America. What's the longest, 66? Yeah. You just, yeah, you old hands were five minutes. 15 minutes.

15 minutes. Oh, yeah. So what does that have to do with feed the world? Is that the- Do they know it's Christmas time at all? Well, we were just talking about 80s. You know, the 80s were really big on charity. Yeah.

And stuff. Yeah, charity was big. Well, since we're talking about it, do we have the White Cleft's version of We Are the World? Oh, no. Oh, the Y-Cleft, the pretty much. The deep. J-Colic version. I don't care how drunk you are right now.

Never, ever, ever. Ever, ever, ever. Play that song. Who else was on that, Steve? Well, Bono and Sting and Bob Geldof and Boy George and all the British. A lot of not, well, I noticed that everyone blew up after the fact. Like, Wham was having some heat by then in 84 and. Wham wasn't on it?

Yes, they were. George Michael was on it. George Michael was on it. I'm pretty sure George Michael was on it. Yes, he was. It is forehead. This is your favorite Christmas song. How do you do you?

Edit. Yes, George Michael is. Okay, yeah, I remember now. Anyway, um. Just say a prayer. Ooh, you're going to sing the verse. And then Simon Lombon comes in, having fun.

Should we, should we? Let's play the song for it. Please. It's all about Phil Collins, but anyway. It is all about Phil Collins. But, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh.

All right, wow. Try it's the post. That's the post. I forgot the post. And this is Bono. Right? Yeah, it's a fun game to try and identify every singer as you go through this song. Bono got first dibs on this train?

I guess right. Boy, George. I'm just waiting for the hook because this don't, it's not ringing a bill. You still don't know this song? I'm waiting for the hook. I can understand because the intro is kind of. Groove. Like, what?

Did you have cable in the house? Here we go. Here we go. George Michael. George Michael. And then Duran Duran. Or right here. The song was a big guilt trip is what it is to get you to donate to charity.

Yeah, it was like a white guilt soundtrack. It takes like 40 minutes to get to the hook, apparently. Right, like hurry up. Hurry up and buy. You know, it's where... In the video, Jody Wattley's sort of resembling Solange now. It's Christmas time. I remember these bullsies.

Thank you. Yeah, where's the feed the world part, though? It comes later. What? Impatient. Seriously. Margaret, you better simmer down. That was Paul Young.

This was remade by someone, right? Was this? It was remade about three or four years ago. Okay. Modern artists, like Coldplay. They did a version in 2004. Yeah, Coldplay. Wait, cold plays on it?

They did one in 89, too. Maybe, I think the 89 was the bigger one I know. Who was it in 89? Banana. You remember Kathy Dells? Yeah. Wait. And you know what?

That's the version I know. Kylie Knows. They used to play that version when I worked. Lisa Stansfield. Yep. There's the white, the blue-eyed. Technotronic. Technotronic.

Yaki K. Like, what did it sound like? I remember. Oh, shit. The Pasadena. They record this in a barn? Yes. You remember the Pasadena's?

Kind of. Sounds like a barn. No, no, no, that was London beat. Y'all just talked about the next part. But this is kind of what British music sounded like at the time. Let them know it's the production. You do know that, right? Unpaid Bill.

What? This is prototypical of British. I mean, yeah, no. I mean, clearly this is the DX-7 being used to the Hilt. I mean, bro. I do love the DX7. So what year was that, though? 1984.

Okay. So I remember this. They used to play the, I think the 89 version, they used to play when I worked at KB Toys. Yeah. Can you say one sentence about working at KB Toys? About working at KB Toy. They used to be my favorite place on Earth.

It was a budget toys of us. KB? KB Toys. It used to working the one in the mall. Yeah, man, that shit was, it was pretty bad. It was pretty bad. What did you do there? I was a, I did some everything.

I was, I worked the register. I was like the stock guy. I was customer service. So like, when people would come in and be like, yo, I need the fucking tickle me Elmo, whatever, where is it? I would point them to it. Did you, like, stashed toys in the back

just so that you can get first dibs on buying them? Nah, I didn't really, I didn't really do that. I was, I was kind of looking for at the time. I was video games. That's what I was, you know, trying to see if they were out of them. but it was a pretty bad job

but my manager was this black lady named Helen she was cool as shit and she was cool she put me on I think I was making maybe like $7 an hour

which was pretty good it was pretty good for like you know this was 908 killing it you know what I mean it wasn't bad wasn't a bad job

yeah KB Toys and then they later went belly up and so that was the end of an era but they used to play that jam and they used to play, uh, damn. Just fucking all the way up.

Well, man, it's Christmas. Let's forgive. Let us forgive. They played that jam, and they used to play that. And, uh, wonderful Christmas time by Wings. Yep, Paul McCartney. My favorite. That was the jam.

No, that's still the jam. That's not my favorite. You told us your favorite was something else already. Well, no, no, no. Well, I have a lot of favorites. Okay, right, right. But, no, wonderful Christmas time was, you know, that was a happy moment for my childhood.

Nah, that was a story. Because there's a story. It was a very good year. I don't think I have good stories about Christmas. I mean, my best Christmas, I think, was I thought I was only getting socks. It was like our poorest Christmas. So, you know, like when you only get socks and sweaters, like stuff that you really don't need from that aunt that has.

has that one accessory gift in the corner. I was, I was, I was, I was resigned to just having that. But I forgot that my dad had a drummer that went AWOL on him. So, um, one day I just came downstairs and got that drum set for Christmas. And I was like, thank you. Yes. That was their best investment ever. But, I mean, much of the.

So your career started with one guy saying, kind of going to go on. Shout out to Frog. His name was Frog. Frog. Shout out to fuck out the way. Shout out to Frog. For looking out and abandoning his career and my dad in somewhere in Ohio, I think, in Steubenville, I think. Wow.

Yeah. somehow that reminded me I don't know how that happened they remind me working at KB tourza you asked me unpaid bill working at KB and so the Mexicans used to come in there like oh no

tread lightly no we need more politically incorrectness besides me go ahead Fonte tell your story no because they would come in and I learned the eye kind of became the mark so basically when you come in they ask you they would always ask

you know quite la fecha la fecia lafecha like the price like what is what is the price and so I guess if they asked you what it was and you took it up to the counter they would have to do a price check and so after a while I started putting together I'm like okay are they trying to like negotiate with me or they trying to kind of bought or whatever so finally this is my coworker it was I can't remember this I think it was Susan something just white lady had long blanche she's like Fonte everything is price is mark I was like okay and so I just told them prices it's the price that's what it is and then they left me and long. But they used to come in. They gave me long, but they used to come in that motherfucker. They pay with cash. They pull out, got down, you know what I'm saying? And I'm sure, you know, there was a story behind that. They probably... You just never called on.

Yeah, you know what I mean? But I learned a lot more than KB. So, you know? I don't know where that wit, but... Drunk. Did you ever a Christmas job, Steve? No. Do you have a job now? A Christmas job? What do you mean?

I mean? I mean, I shoveled driveways from my radio. Do you know what a Christmas job is? I put trees on card. Just holiday, holiday. What do you mean? Oh, you mean like specific job during Christmas time? Yeah, just for the holiday season. Sometimes people get extra jobs during the holiday.

I shoveled driveways on my street. Made cash. Oh, okay. Well, yeah, everyone does that. I mean, I never got paid for it, though. My boys don't get paid for any. You volunteered to do it in your name? You volunteered to do it in your name?

It was, it was, well, no, I didn't do it like that, but I wasn't shovel anybody else's driveway. I shovel my, oh, it's a... Make money, shit. That's where my Prince Stas came from. Oh, rid of him from the driveway? What? Yeah, because, like, that would throw them shit out, and then I just shovel. You didn't deal with Indiana winners, so...

Yeah, that's true. That's very true. That's very true. Yeah. I'd go out shovel, make about 40 bucks, and then buy the Prince discography all over again for the third day. So you ever try to shovel at this age? It's like a whole different feeling the next day. I just want to anybody ever, you know,

because the pain be for real. Oh, really? Yeah, shit is real. Yeah, that's what nieces and nephews are for. That's real exercise. I don't know if you. We ain't know it then, but it is. Yeah, I shoveled out my neighbor that lives like two houses down for me.

Ms. Darlene. I shovel her driveway for her. You know, she's older, old the black lady. And I try to be, as Laia calls me, a friend to the black woman. I was, wait, my head, I was praying this was going to be like, like one of those Playboy Electric Blue stories. Because she had the perfect name. Yeah, darling.

Sound like some 80s, uh, porno lady. But no, she, she was cool. Hey, Ms. Parker. But now, you're right, though. Sheveling snow now. That shit is, man, yeah. My kids do that shit. I ain't about a dying driveway shoveling no fuck.

I moved, sent the shovel driveway. Oh, wait. Wait, well, hold. My dad was a shoveling driver. I don't know where the fuck my nephew was. But he had, like, like some heart issues while he was... Eating seaweed right now?

You're okay? Breathe. Somebody put some fucking pineapple in front of me, so. I did it right, bro. Sorry. So, yeah. Yeah. Man, I should have put that in this damn liquor.

Soaked the pineapple and the liquor. That would have been. Oh. Hoogneutte City. Dousay and pineapple. Oh, doce. No more. No, no, just this brown shit.

You know, we just drinking brown shit. You know, we just drinking. Brown shit and pineapple. We're drinking prison. Brown shit. Yeah. Wait, since we talk about this. Can you explain to me the origin of hooch?

I have no idea. Like, do you mean the terminology? Or just, this is random. Right. Well, Hooch is just talking about fruit fermenting the inside of? Yeah, Hooch is just, it's illegally made liquor. So I actually have members of my family that do it. I can't walk you through the process.

Oh, I don't want to know how to make it. I just want to know where. I don't know where it. Speak easy. Yeah, speak easy, liquor houses. It kind of comes from that in the black community. We always had, like, you know, the underground economy. Like moonshine?

That's exactly what a huge. You can get that in the liquor store now. Are you serious? Yeah, you can buy all kinds of moonshineshap. Oh, you can get strawberry moonshine? Are you okay? Steve? But is it, but if you can buy moonshine in the liquor store,

is it still moonshine? Once the slave masters show up, is it still a slave of all? Like, really? You're right. The lure is gone. The lure is gone. Like, man, when weed, really gets legal, like, it's going to be

whatever. No, we're all right. I mean, they'd be all right. Don't worry about it. Don't do that. Well, you think my voice has the power to bring that in people's minds. No, it'd be fine, people. Everybody would be great, okay? Okay. Okay, we'll be great.

You sound like Trump. Shut down, Margaret. Well, no, man. Yeah, Moonshine, I had my first taste of it when I was a kid. Not a thing about, I did a lot of drugs as a kid that I probably shouldn't Behind people's backs or like

With their blessings Like did you have one of them uncles and aunts like Here boy taste my okay My uncles and my grandmother They were like I know you'll get his reference Bruce's millions

When he was like listen I'm gonna make you hate cigarette He called his dad called him smoking a cigarette He was like I'm gonna make you hate cigarettes By making you smoke like a pack a day So for me I went through that Where I got it was I got it two ways My grandmother

my, this was my dad's mom. She was, God rest of the soul. She used to dip snuff, right? What is? Say what now? I don't. Snuff. All right.

So snuff is tobacco. It's chewing tobacco. She used to dip snuff. And so she had a blue can, a snuff. And it was like, so-and-so peach snuff. So I'm like four, five. And I just see peach. I'm like, peach.

I'm like, nah, don't let me teach. Let's taste it. She was like, nah, don't. Don't want to nest with that. I said, well, no, it's say peaches on it. I mean, it's got to be good. It's peaches. Okay, baby, don't do it.

I said, well, now, let me take shit. So finally, she's like, okay, go ahead. Brother, I took one, it hit my tongue, and I accidentally swallowed something. Oh. To this day, I've never, I've, many drugs, if I was, not no hard shit, not, you know, not real drugs, but, like, just like, we. I've never in my day. One drug. The taste was that bad.

Not real drugs. I've never smoked a cigarette in my life. She let you just do it. It wasn't any punishment, right? No, no, no. She just let me do it because she wanted me, I think she wanted me to see how bad it really was. And so then I had another instance, same grandma, they had some corn liquor or moonshine. That's what, you know, we call it corn liquor down the country.

Yeah. But, you know, corn liquor. And I took one hit of that, bro. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. I'm sorry. I think we might have somebody die on it.

Yeah. I'm like, you're back. Did you just cough up a laptop? I just came out when you horked up. Ladies and gentlemen, I know you can't see this, but Steve has been coughing for the last, like, five minutes. And he's still putting shit in his mouth. It's as if he coughed up a laptop. It's sugar.

It's sugar. He's coming back to his original color. He heard corn liquor. Are you okay? Say something, Steve, so people know you alive. Now, if I have some corn liquor, it'll get that about shit. I'm the David Blaine of coughing. I just coughed this shit right up.

Wait, it was either a frog or that. I don't know if I'm going to turn this into a really dark Christmas story or not. Go in. Go in. But, all right, now this, see, culturally it's different with the households. Okay. And, you know, our particular households were big on corporal punishment. Absolutely. Which, modern day that's known.

That's the worst. Modern day that's known as abuse, but, you know, back in I. It is. It was around. I definitely remember the Christmas tree being up, but I, I, too, like the way you were attracted to, Peach or whatever the font was, there was a cigarette company called Bell Air Cigarettes. Woo! Do you remember Bell Air Cigarettes? Oh, man.

What they were like, they were like in the Virginia Slims family. Wait. Are y'all? Wait. Did we just go down a hole? No. Like, Lai is just being like. Tell me about the Bellairs.

Were those the candy kinds you could eat or no, those are real cigarettes? No, it was a real motherfucking cigarettes. I like the candy cigarettes. Candy cigarettes were my shit. Yeah. The 80s. Nah, you fuck those bubblegum candy cigarettes. It was bored.

Because, I mean, I said, I want to smoke that because I like the logo and everything, the clouds and everything, Bel Air. And, you know, I, see, I hate putting this out. No, go it. My dad's not here to defend himself. Gotcha. But, yeah, in one of his many Joe Jackson glory moments, that was probably the second worst punishment I've ever gotten. Was he a switch man, a belt man, a hand man?

We had a slave whip. I didn't know about a slave. Wait, what? Wow. No, one day when we talk about the worst punishment. Okay, we'll go into that. We'll go into that. But, no, actually, to this day, in the eyesly,

Brothers discography. Like, first of all, if you do punish your kids and reprimand them, to turn the music off because it's going to ruin that song. It's going to ruin everything. Every time you feel paid, it's Isaac Brothers. To this day, Harvest for the World. Oh, my God. The album cover, everything associated with that record traumatizes the shit out. As far as I know, there is no album in 1976.

It goes from the heat is on, straight to go for your guns. Like, there's nothing in between. Anything blue, them standing on water. Wow. That's amazing. Damn, and his husband for the world, I didn't even like Alia's cover of that your best year. Wow.

Like, that sounds deep the rain. Damn. It wasn't just, it wasn't just doing. Did he take a break the flip slot? Right. Hold on for a minute. You know, let me flip your ass in a. Wait, wait, wait.

Who's here that Robin Harris bit. Whip you. When I want to. When I want to. When I want a. The record skin one. No, that is some black shit. No, I had to smoke whipping music.

I had to smoke eight cigarettes. You smoked eight? And then I was like, I'll take the whipping. I'll take the whipping. And then I got whipped. But yeah, all let me down. Do you imagine get your ass beat to let me down easy? You're like a slow jam.

All aside to Harvest for the World, I got my ass beat, yo. Damn. I think that said the president. Of me not drinking, me not smoking. You know what I'm with you? Yeah, I think, yeah, definitely. I don't think you have to go that hardcore. But, yeah, that was, shout out to Christmas 76.

So anyway, Steve, tell me more about two. They know it's Christmas. No, boy. They were the first to do it, man. I mean, I'm a big fan of we are the world as well. All right, so what wins in your mind? That's a really hard question. A really hard question.

Really? Yeah. What's a really hard question? We are the world versus... We are the world because, like, for me... Yeah, Michael Jackson. No, no, no, no, no. I actually like the documentary to We Are the World was incredible.

Yeah. You see Michael Jackson dancing like James Brown with a man. Well, that was a little... And them trying to teach Bob Dylan how to really get up in there. Because that was, man. Yeah, I mean... This was my child. He was Lewis Bridge, man.

To me... To me... All that week of all... Yeah. He like, I feel like, do they know it's Christmas. has more, I don't know, I think it's probably a better song and like a better performance and a better recording. But we're the world, you know, at Quincy Jones, Michael Jackson, Lionel Ritchie, and, you know,

I feel like. Ray Charles. I may like that song better. It's just so, you know. I mean, the fact they knocked that out in eight hours. Yeah. I have respect for them to, you know, to execute with precision. Because leave your egos at the door.

Yeah, that was my favorite. Yeah, when he said, leave you, check your eagles at the door. And there's one point where he did raise his voice. And you remember when Stevie and James were kind of making fun of Quincy? He said something. I haven't seen the documentary.

Like, there was talking to the background and says, I now I need something. I mean it. And then everyone got silent. And then, like, you just see, like, James Ingram and Stevie Wonder, like, yeah. Of course he told me your business.

He made business. Like, they were, like, mocked him or making fun of him. Is that, like, y'all favorite, like, because, you know, it's been a couple of records where it's, like, 20 artists for random, like, things. Like, there's the MLK John. Where you're going to play Sun City? Martin Luther. What's the Martin Luther King song with Whitney Houston? Oh, King Holiday.

Prince paid for that. Did he pay for that? Wow. And then there was a Gulf War song, which was more inclusive, racially inclusive. That was a Gulf War song? What was that? What was that? Was that voice of care?

With Lenny Kravitz? Yes. Oh. No, they did give a piece of chance. Oh, that's right. Yeah, they did we do that. Was the Dress songwriter, dude? who married the

Jenner's ex-wife who has Brody Jenner and, oh, what's this? I know this is a bad reference for y'all I should have a bunch of songs. How many ex-wives did Bruce Jenner have? Like three. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He did everything.

I ran through so many bitches. I don't know. Just stop right there. And okay, no, because we miss it. It was the, what was it? That's what Friends are Four. That was the AIDS song, right? Right.

That was just a few people. But then it was lift every voice and sing with Jasmine Guy doing the video, doing the dance, the solo. I think I remember that. I remember that. That's really, wasn't Melbourne Moore behind that? Yes, she was in it? Yeah, yeah, I remember. I missed all these charity songs.

It's the whole genre. All the people that Melbourne and her husband were. Shout out to Melbourne more, by the way. Oh, she reaches out to you too. No, no, she didn't reach out to me. I know she reached out to you. She didn't reach out to me. Yeah.

She reached out to Melbaugh, actually. out to Melbourne more who frequently listens to the show and she frequently reaches out to at Stephen Mandel she does no but she will I mean

who wouldn't my aunt gave me one of her old albums I don't remember the name of it she's like laying down no not peach mama that's one of the albums I believe it would lean on me yeah no she's like laying down

on the album cover? It's like a long title. Melrose of one of those singers that you know. Two ladies of Google sir. You can't sing a song. I can't sing a Melbourne more song. I know, I mean, I love her. You know what I mean? If you were born five years earlier back, okay, when she

like she came to our attention, I guess the Hamilton of hits day was, no, I thought it was pearly. Pearly, okay. Perley. Oh, but she was in hair too, though. She did hair as well. She was in hair? That's how I knew it.

I didn't know that. She was a broad. But I think Pearlie is what got her, I believe she got a Tony with Pearlie. She got a Tony? See, I just knew she married. And then, you know, just became a album more. But she did a song called Lean on Me,

of which she infamously would hold the last note. Me? For like, and it sounded just like that. 40. For like 47 seconds. Like she would hold. it long and then yell out, I think she's speaking tongues. Shats her!

Now I've got to find it. Wait, wait, can you play that? Oh, God. See, I just knew it from being married to the Reverend from Amen, and then something happened to bad. She was married to Clinton Davis? I didn't know. Uh-uh.

And it was a whole thing because it was like some drugs involved. No. I promise you. I promise you. No, because I know that her husband managed Freddie Jackson. Yeah, he was Bull Huggins, right? Yes, right. Bo Huggins?

Right. Yeah, it's Huggins. They had Hush production. Hush, Horpheus. Fargan, you making shit up again. Death by temptation. Death by temptation. They produced that?

With the death by temptation. With Cadeen Hardison. With James Bond the 3rd. Yeah, James Bond the 3rd. That's right, right. Yeah, that was my hero when he was in the Fish of State Pittsburgh. He was a boyfriend. I'm sorry, he was her boyfriend.

The actor reveals to abusing women drugs. Yes. Mm-hmm. This is Melba Moore and Clifton Davis. Yeah, Melbo, she was in Duff by Temptation. She was, like a psychic or character. She was a psychic or something. She was a psychic or something like that.

That sounds about right. But yeah, she was in hair. That's what I know from here? Anyway. Is this to me? I thought it was. Wait, what song is this? This is Lina on Me from Melba Moore.

All right. This is like classic in the 70s. Break it down. She could sing, though. So what you got to understand Everybody's singing these adlips Verbatim in 74-75 She got more bass of her voice than what you was impersonating

But, you know Sorry So she would hold this note Make it And then she holds this shit for like 47 seconds She even did this shit on the Tonight Show All right, this is the edited version

But it goes for another eight bar And she yells Did she say shit? I remember was on the Tonight Show She did that shit And it was like she's speaking in tongues Wait, what was that a man? It sounds like two-year-old

She was speaking in tongues You know I'll make that my ringtone Yeah I don't think you want to hear that voice F3 in the morning as your ringtone. Well, okay. Fair enough. Yeah, so anyway, yeah, I got my ass beat to Isley Brothers.

Damn! The album. The whole, the whole side two. Wait, hold on. Keep talking. I'm going to find out how long this album is. Then you're going to call child services? No.

I want to file a retroactive child in this plan. Damn. P.S. For your information, you should also know Clifton Davis and Melba had a TV show together, like Cher and Sonny. When? Circa, uh, uh,

uh, a, uh, a 1972, uh, according to IMDB. Oh. So,

okay. You did? Uh, variety shows were like, like, like that's the thing, being the age I am, I'm proud to have seen many

a one-off variety show. Yeah, they were like the reality shows of today. Yeah. So you could say us night and the Pips had their own variety show for like eight episodes. I mean,

the Jackson's had their own, uh, I mean, Flip Wilson. Yeah. He had, but there was Tony Orlando and Dawn, Sunny and Cher. Ben Cher had her own show. Well, everyone knows Donnie, well, everyone my age should know Donnie and Marie.

Donnie Marie Osmond. And now all we got is Martin and Maya. That's, yes. Maya and Marty. Maya and Marty. If we want to be. Okay. Yeah. Maya and Marty. The Melbourne Moore album I was referring to that my aunt gave me is from 1971.

It's called Look What You're Doing to the Man. Who's the man? I'm the man. Saw that going. Apparently Christmas, 1976, Amir got his ass beat for 37 minutes and 54 seconds. Solid half hour.

Well, no, I remember let me down easy. I don't remember too much going on at your best. I think I was on my eighth cigarette by the time.

Do you get all catatonic when that comes on? You're like, you can't deal. At your best comes on the album before Let Me Down Easy now. Yeah, exactly. That's what I mean.

Like, I think by that point I was throwing up. We need to get back to that as parents. Yeah. Let's talk about it. Beating our kids' asses for the length of sitcoms. It's like, theme song, to end credits. Right. You know what I'm saying?

I do. I don't know. It's a rare condition. Oh, yeah. This day and a day. Yeah. I told your ass. No.

We do not condone it. Black is about to come on. So are you, are you a timeout parent? Nah, no, no, no. You know what, man? For me, I thank God I've only, I've only had to probably just really, like, put hands on my kids, both boys. Maybe, like, once or twice. Like, when they were, like, look.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or you just put the fear of God in. Oh, well, it's a little of both. Because, I mean, I do have good boys. I mean, they, you know, they test a little, somebody once in a while. But I generally do have really great kids. But I had to put their fear in early. And, you know, for me, can just be just a look.

You know what I mean? Or just to like, look, come on, bro. So I never really had to get into that. I went through it, you know what I'm saying? I went through it, like, for real, for real. But I never really had to beat my boys like that. At least you got to look. Yeah.

My shit was without warning. Oh, it was just on site. So. You ain't had anybody send you into the woods to go get the switch? My girl brother's been like, go get me a switch. My grandmother's through that. Wait, what about the slave with? And that's some slave shit.

My dad. See, you got to understand From the period that my dad Retired initially from show business Him and my mother had a A boutique Or a shop or that sort of thing And then for like half a second

I don't know What else they Was sold there but yeah For one unfortunate March of 1981 There was the slavery The way from the boutique? The whip came from their story. I would assume someone would sell it to them.

Or was this a slave whip passed down from generation? They just collect it. My master whipped me. And now you can be chucked it. They collect the weird, weird artifacts, man. You know what I'm saying? I had the, I didn't have a slave. Did you ever, like, hide the belt?

Yeah, I did. I tried. Did you ever see the belt? Fucked up Christmas. No, not in times where you were in trouble. Just like in passing like, oh, there's that. Uh-huh. The belt.

Let me hide this shit further in? I tried hiding the belt, but then when hiding the belt failed, the objects just got more like obtuse. So it went from a belt to because then, like Laia, we would get the go pick your own switch joint. And that's like, don't make it weak. That's some slave shit, like for real. Like that's really.

You would have to pick your own switch? What? I've heard that in comedy, but I don't live near a place that had. Dude, we had, we had a tree. We had a tree in my grandmother's backyard, and I want to say maybe it was a crate murder. I'm not sure. But it was a tree in the backyard.

That was specific, bro. I think it was a crepe mire, I think. But anyway, and you have to go out and you pick the little branch off and take the leaves off, and she liked that ass up. So then as I got a little bigger, she didn't redo the switches no more. So then I graduated to, she had a flosswater.

I think she had a flosswater. I think she had a flosswater. And then, like, my time I was maybe like 8-9, I got a Hot Wheels race track. No. Learned about the race track. I've heard about that. Orange joint?

Yeah, bro. No, no, no, no. I had that one. Okay. But I had another one. It was like a black. Oh, the hard black ones? The hard black ones.

That's what women boys. It was the middle. It was like the curves and it was the straight pieces. Right, right. And she used to whip me with the straight pieces. You could get that track. How did you figure that out? If you grab an object like that, though, like, did you get the talk first and then the ritual?

Or was it just like, sometimes like simultaneously? Yeah. Most of the time I would say I would get the talk Or there would be some warning You know what I'm saying? Like if I was cutting up in church That was just

Sunday whipping The Sunday whipping is terrible Because then you're whipping And you just demoralized And you can't go nowhere You can't go outside You just getting your ass beat And you're just in the house

That's fucking sad On a Sunday Ain't no cartoons on this shit You got getting that woman in the mall You got beating the store In the grocery store Yeah Nobody's got whipped in the grocery store

You never got popped in the public I got popped in front of my fourth place. My mom would be like, don't make me pop you in front of class. Oh, wait, wait, what happened? You had the mama coming to class with him. Oh, that's terrible. I had that in first grade. It's like the worst everybody hates Chris's scenario where you're cutting up

and you turn around. But it's one of the moments where your friends are like, you still cutting up and your friends are pointing, turn around, turn around. And then you turn around and you turn around. And you see. your parents? Oh, no.

Like, I immediately regurgitated on the gym floor. Like, I turned around and all over the floor. Because they had to drive. They were on the road. Like, I was at my grandmother's house. So they had to drive, like, two hours

from their gig to come to the prison. Oh, my God. That's that, yeah, that I didn't have to take off work-ass with him. That's hard. That's hard. That's hard. Seriously, nothing.

No, no, it's levels to it. It unpaid, Bill. I'm telling my brother, look. That I didn't have to take our work from my good job. Yes. And I ain't have no. And this is before, like, this is the A.

He wasn't no fucking PTO and none of that shit. No flex. PTO. It wasn't none of that. Yeah, it wasn't no HR. It was like, if you miss work, your ass ain't getting the chick. And like, yeah, my mother had to come to the school for me one time. Oh, yeah.

Work whipping? Oh. Brother. Man. Yeah. I feel for you, man. Yeah, yeah, but it made me a stronger person. Somehow abuse maybe better.

Oh, my God. Excuse me. But I'm not saying to abuse your kids, please. But that shit was real, though. It's like roses. Oh, God. Oh, God. That just happened.

Okay. When you ain't eating no dairy, though, that's your own being beautiful. Man. That's too much information. My ear. All right, are we totally depressed on Christmas right now? I'm happy because, again, in the words of a great songwriter,

be glad it's them and not you. I think every example we're given, it wasn't. We made it. Look how far we came. Anyway, it's time for the Isley Brothers? You what? No, we're never playing the Isley Brothers. A win is a win. A win is a win.

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And I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't.

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Hey man, he's boss Bill. He lays a smackdown. He's from Indiana. Yeah. It's cold. It's cold. Yeah. Cold blood.

Well, I want to go to the Fishbone had a sort of Christmas album called We're going to have a good life. You know, they have a really great song about heartbreak called Slick Nick, You Devil You. So I want to play that on Quest Love Supreme. on Pandora. Slicknick stole the reindeer from the zoo fell down my chimney with a cagaboo Put my dog out in the cold

and there from my socks smoking clothes and drinking scotch Slick Nick you devil you That was Slick Nick UW by Fishbone. Special holiday edition of Questlove Supreme. Wow. I think I got a hangover already. Yeah, this is amazing.

Merry Christmas. This is a bad idea. Can you imagine all the families? I think it's an amazing idea. Do you guys do, are you guys big on family during the holidays? No. Absolutely. Yeah.

That's the only thing you can do for free. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Really, you can eat their food. You can cook with your family. Like, that is what the holidays are supposed to do? Are you in good with, are you allowed to talk about?

Are you in good with your family boss, Bill? Yeah, I mean, like, I just, Christmas is just a hassle. I hate the travel during Christmas. You're so positive. You're so positive all the whole time. The last time I went home for Christmas was three years ago. Wait, so Christmas is just another day to you? Yeah.

You spend it in, like, in Brooklyn, chilling? Yeah. Oh, man, that's not the meaning of Christmas. Oh, what's the meaning of Christmas? Someone invited Bill over to the damn house for Christmas. No, this is Christmas. Come over my house for Christmas, Bill. Like Christmas is...

You can have locks and bagel with Steve. You come to St. Louis with me, but it ain't fun there. I'm not trying to go to St. Louis. My mom is from St. Louis. And my grandmother's 91, so we got to let her get her last Christmas up in St. No, she just was born and she left when she was 16, like all the other smart people. Like Jennifer Lewis. You'd ask you from St. Louis.

Of course she's in St. Louis. I like St. Louis, too. I'll stop. No, for real. What you like? The art? I like the barbecue. Yeah.

The Jerry Curles? No. I mean, someone, like the block where the pageant is. It's a good record store there. There's a lot of vintage movie theaters. I fucks with St. Louis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's cool, but, you know, I wouldn't want it.

It's nice to visit. Yeah, family is on recent events in St. Louis? Just period. It's a little slow there. Shout out to St. Louis. I'm not trying to say things. This is a national show, isn't it? It is. Big up to St. Louis. I love y'all, but it's a little slower there, so. Not really.

Well, I mean, to you. I mean, sorry. Digging the hole. No, I don't agree with you at all. That's good. You know, when I, some the best times in my life were in St. Louis. No, St. St. Louis is a real ass town. It's the home of the blues. It is home of the blues. It is home of the Luz. Yeah.

Real ass town, man. Shout out. Nelly from St. Louis. Man. So, what do you do? Now that you're a father. Okay. Ooh. All right.

Have you ever had to grinch your kids? Have you ever had to steal Christmas? Uh, halfway did. He is Santa Claus. Halfway did. I am Santa Claus. You are a motherfucker. I'm not giving my credit no fat white, man.

Fuck that. So, okay. How do you really feel, Fonter? I think you all the time. I really feel. Was that from the beginning, Fonte? Like they didn't, they always? Oh, absolutely.

Once they were cognizant and were able, I let them know, like, no, does Santa Claus shit, did they selling y'all that's bullshit? When did you reveal to them that Santa Claus was no longer going? Oh, man, we're around like four or five years old. Like real early. How did they take the news?

They were just like, okay, Dad, you know, as long as we're getting some shit, we cool. Seriously, though. Yeah, they don't care what it gives come from. But the thing was, now what I did have to do with my youngest, because he just would talk

and just run his goddamn mouth. So what I did have to tell him, because he then took the ministry to school and was telling the kids, you know, Santa Claus isn't real. That's bullshit. And I'm like, nigga, you're in the third grade. You can't say that. So for him, I was like, okay, I got to chill. So what I had to tell him was like, listen, man, even though this is what we do in our household,

you can't spoil it in other people's households. So if other people want to believe in Santa Claus, you have to give them the flexibility to believe in that and not shit on their dreams, even though I is your father's shit on yours. So is Santa Claus supposed to be a whole, like, training thing for children and religion? Not in my house. Not in your house.

I thought it was just to control them to be nice and good. Well, no, I'm saying, like, you know. You know what? That's how I am. What Fonte was just saying about, you know, okay, what we do in this house is what we believe here and what people do over there is what they believe there. So, you know.

But you know what, though, like, let's think, no, for real, man. Let's talk about how disturbing the concept of Santa Claus is. Oh, it's very disturbing. I don't think we've ever broken that shit down. Like, dude. And what he got to do with Jesus? Let your kids go to a stranger and sit on his fucking lap.

Yo, on that note, can you just ask? Are you saying that nobody? Who in this room has sat on his lap? Because I'm not going to lie. I did as a kid. I don't ever recall doing that. You ain't got no picture. You're not yet.

I've never seen a picture. I was afraid of Santa Claus. You were afraid? You were afraid? You afraid? My first few nightmares of life, I think at the age of three, I dreamt that, like, Santa Claus is trying to kill me or something. Oh, crampus, you have crampus.

Whenever, like, it's weird. Like, a lot, most of the roots are afraid of clowns. I was afraid of Santa Claus. Well, I forgot who said either Tariq or someone. Shh. So, no, no, Tariq's not afraid of clown. Someone said that they couldn't trust someone that couldn't stop smiling. or whatever.

But, yeah, no, there's, I mean, people generally have fear of clowns and stuff. But I'm sorry, I was distracted by it. Fonte emptied that bottle. Fonte drinking the last of the Ducet. Is that what you were distracted by? The Duce. The Duce. The new movie from Mel Gibson.

I was just like to remind everybody, we started out this show with Fonte don't really drink. I don't, but when I do, I do it to 100%. Do it to death. Yeah, 100. So, okay, good. So Quest left. Yeah, but I was afraid of Santa Claus, like, by the age of three. So, and then by then, I mean, I kind of knew that my parents were controlling Christmas.

I don't know. My Christmases were kind of dope because I would just get a lot of music. See, there. And actually, I would buy, like, my dad's records knowing that I was just, going to take them like two days later. Oh, you could buy for him for Christmas until he wouldn't really have a Christmas. Christmas, so Christmas of like 80,

one of that Gordon Gartrell episode of, not Gordon Gartrell, the Stevie Wonder episode. That was, jamming on the one. Yeah, so the jamming on the one, man. Jamming on a one. I'm going to tell you. Jamming on a one. So, I mean, between getting.

Sorry. Anyway. Baby, I'm sorry. Getting that Cassio S K-1 For Christmas I got one of those as well You had a Cascio SK-1 line yet And you're not a beat maker?

No You used to do the curse words Yeah no I just I was trying to figure it out Shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit pussy pussy pussy pussy pussy pussy I would put it in demo mode I would just hit the demo join and try to see what I could do I had a key 16 beat

I had a Cassio keyboard My mom got me like 91 And if you put it in demo mode It played a It played a Rick Ashley song Are you serious? It wasn't never going to give you up It was together forever

Which was never going to give you up They were the same song They were pretty much the same Yeah But yeah So if you say demo mode That's the first thing that comes to my mind It's fucking Rick Assy

Damn It might be it was refurbished Wow That's amazing Speaking of which Wait for that For the Rick Astley one Was that the Yamaha version of that keyboard?

I'm pretty sure it was a Casio keyboard. But then I found out, did it have yellow pads on it? No, no. Yellow pads. Well, okay, because not true, not true, Macyo revealed to me. Yes, that particular, what machine is it?

That's K-1. Yo, Scott is showing a picture of a Cassio, and for real, for real, for real, I think I just got choked up. No, it reminds you of, like, everything that was innocent in your life. My point was that Macyo of De LaSoul revealed to me that, like, a lot of their three-fei-hide-rising samples were used with that Cassio. With the Cassio joint? Oh, wow.

But they would just do it manually, which I was amazed at. Yeah, I had the Cassio SK1. And then I upgraded to the Yamaha guy. It wasn't a DX-7. It was one of them. But it was a Yamaha joint. They had the same thing. Right.

But just longer. 8-beat. Five, five seconds. of sampling. Absolutely. Oh, I'm slow. Is that why Sean Wayans named himself SK-1 in living color?

He was SW. S-W. Okay. After public getting me. After the public of S-1W. Okay. But keep talking about it. You were a couple,

you were like just a couple more letters down the alphabet and you were almost there. But his name is Sean Wands. So that's kind of where the SW came from. So close, Margaret. So fucking close. Yet so far.

So far. So. We're learning here on Quest Level. At the safe zone. At the risk of. At the risk of. asking this question. Fon Ticillo. Here we go.

What was your favorite Christmas of all time? Soda Poppinski. Boom. Oh man, I guess probably my favorite Christmas of all time was probably when I was oh my God, man, this was going into, I was in college actually.

This was my freshman year of college and I was home. And after my first semester, you know, fall semester, You come home for the winter. And so that semester, that was when I got PlayStation 1. Here we go, yeah. I got PlayStation 1.

What was your favorite video game? My favorite video game was Tekin, which wasn't as racially charged as that. But no, that was probably my favorite one because that was the time where, you know, I honestly, man, I thought my mom had just forgot about me. I thought I was just, like, kind of written off. Like, he's in college. He's good. But my mother bought me, my mother and the guys she did at the time, they bought me her, which

labor became my husband, bought me a PlayStation 1. And so I ended up, I would play PlayStation 1 with my brothers, my younger brothers. We would play Tekken at that time. And so then I later took it to Central with me, took it back to college with me. And that was when me and my roommate, we got into Resident Evil. And I didn't go to class for like a month and a half. I was going to say, you must have cut some. Oh, my God, Resident Evil, come on, man.

Like, that shit was a movie. Oh, God, that shit had better screenplayed. So, whatever when your grades came and what was your... Oh, man, listen, I always recovered. I never, I was always a good student. I just, you know, I would, like, say fuck class, but then when it came time to, like, really be there for, like, tests and, like, real shit, I would be there, and I would ace the test.

But, yeah, me and my homeboy and my shop, my man, Milk, we would just play Resident Evil all day and have all the cats in our joint. M-I-L-T, milk. Milt. Milt. Milt. But, yeah, that was probably my favorite one, man. That was my favorite one.

That time. I didn't think Bill. Milt. What was your? I had a grandpa named Milt, I think. What was your favorite holiday moment? My favorite holiday moment? I've been to Alabama every holiday for the past 10 years.

I got the chills when you said that. So, really? Whatever that means to you? That's where your people's come from? No, that's where my ex-wife's people's come from. Oh, good to she up because I don't. Mm-hmm. Mm-mm.

So Steve, what's your favorite audio? No, rewind back a little. Yeah, tell us more. What you used to do on the holiday is doing? What did you did? Well, I'm not going to drag a city under the bus. Like, someone in here drags another city under the bus. But I'm just saying that Alabama, like, the trees at the nighttime, like...

The lynchings are? Yeah. It's just, oh, man. Strange truth. Strange truth. Not on the leaves. Here's the thing, though. Alabama, don't, don't get it.

twisted. I mean some of the most friendliest and mind you this is like 2015 they were some of the friendliest people ever or maybe because I was Questlove walking down the blocker like hey how you doing? Yeah but I'm just saying that walking

at nighttime in like Montgomery Alabama like they have statues of like the dogs biting like protesters legs like there's You see them statues, Bill? You see them when you was there?

No. Wait, what city? Birmingham? Outside of Montgomery. Lying. I'll say it's a different place that I never thought I would spend so much time. But I did and now I don't. What city?

What city are you about? Outside of Montgomery. Outside of Montgomery. Oh, my God damn. My good, nigga, that's racism-centric. It's a stewed to perfection. Oh, my God. Hold on calm.

Come. Come. I feel like I don't know you in your ex-in-law's like. That four little girls thing, like that happened there. They burned them, girls, Bill. I love how you're blaming me for all the points of fucking Montgomery. Guys, I'm not blaming you for nothing, though. You're my brother, man.

Thank you. I love you, too. I love you, too. I love you, too. I love you. For real. It ain't just the deuce they talk. I love you because you're my man's.

I fuck with you, son. The long way. I don't fuck with you the long way, son. Can we get a slow way, son? Can we get a slow day? I'm not long. You don't fuck with him the long ways. The long way.

The long way, not in a homo erotic way. I fuck with him the long way like he's my man. I'm chilling. All right. So Steve, what's your favorite Christmas song? That's it. That's all I can. Wow.

Wait a minute. Let up a pay Bill speak. Let my man talk. Let my man skip it. So you say it's spinning when your in-laws in Alabama was some of the best times of your life? I don't know. It was a time. I think the first time that I had kids

Because I didn't celebrate Christmas my whole life And so when I finally got to do it with my kids They were so fucking into it And I loved that fact There you go That was fun And now it's the first Christmas I've had Not in Alabama ever this year

So we'll see what happens Will you get to see them Moo Kids Yeah Okay And I'll get a Christmas tree You get to see them

No no I don't know the situation That is such a divorcee question It's a single person question to ask or divorce today. We don't know. Nah, don't pay Bill had your kid. So are they still excited about Christmas? Hell yes.

And what do they want? Well, I know you're getting them instruments. Do they want that? You have two girls. That might have a little bit to do with me. My kids like a very certain thing of cartoons and things that they're very excited about dresses. Yeah, what are kids one now?

Do they still? Are we giving away Tyco? Is Tyco still a thing? Man, that shit is over, dog. That's over. More like a new iPad? Your kids want. Race cards?

They have iPads. That's over. The race car tracks was hot for my boys when they was like six and seven. After that, everything is all electronic. It's all Xbox games. And they want sneaks too. Your boys is older. Sneaks.

They want some snakes. Oh, my God, they want sneaks. My oldest son is like obsessed about sneakers. And I'm just like, dude, you don't understand. You don't have no job. You ain't got no job. Like that is Santa Claus. Such a poor people obsession.

You know what I mean? And like, yeah, it's bad. I had to break him up in seventh grade. because he was running a scam at school with his sneakers. Can you please explain that a little bit? Oh, man, okay, yeah, I'll break it down. Okay, so listen. This is what went down for my man's unpaid bill because I love him.

All right, listen. Are your eyes closed? No, they ain't closed, brother? I'm fully alert. Okay. I'm alert, nigga. I'm red alert. Amir is just like, just like Jesus take the wheel.

Autopause. This is the lesson I had to teach my kid. My oldest son. I'm sorry. My oldest son. Okay, about sneakers. Okay. So, my son was sneakers.

I said, listen. So one day, my son, I was like, listen, I know you're in the sneakers and, like, if you get a good report card, we'll lace you up. So he came home with, like, a good report card, like, once a semester. This is seventh grade. And so I laced him with a pair. My mom laced him with a pair. His grandma laced him with a pair. His mom laced him with a pair.

Wait. For Christmas? For Christmas? Yes. Brother. That's not supposed to happen. That's like $500, right? That's like four pairs of shoes.

That's like four pairs of shoes. But again, you know, when your parents are together, that kind of splits everything in half. So it works to your advantage. You know what I'm saying? Like when it's not just one. Oh, because that's all he got that Christmas. No, no, he got. I got him something else.

I think I got him a couple of Xbox games at Christmas too. But anyway. But anyway, so anyways, he gets all these sneakers. So one day we're driving in the car and I'm like, and he's, like count money. I was going to buy him a winter coat. I was going to buy him a winter coat. And I said, okay. I said, well, uh, he's counting money. I said, where do you get that money from? Oh, well, dad, well, I just, I just found $5

while I was walking for school. I'm like, nigger, you're lying. That's a fucking lie. Where did you get the money from? I mean, it's not like I'm selling anything. What do you say? I didn't say what you're selling? What happened? So finally he confessed to me. He says, dad, I've been renting my shoes. Wow. Brilliant. So here's a renting episode.

Yeah. So here's, yo, I bullshit you not. I bullshit you not. You can do this? So this is what he think. He says, okay, he says, well, dad, he says, listen. He said, a lot of kids at school, they like my shoes. So what I do is I rent them to them for $5 a day.

And, you know, that's how I make my money. Your son is brilliant. No, he's a fucking idiot. But let's be clear. But no, no, no, no. Let me, let me get the fish story. Okay. So I said, okay, so you've been renting your shoes.

He said, yeah. I said, okay, well, thanks for telling the truth. By this time, man, I'm in the car. My face, like, you could fry a fucking egg on the side of my face, dog. I'm a hot, nigger. I'm hot, so hot, so hot. I'm hot like an oven, nigga. So, dude, so I get to the fucking crib, and I said, listen.

I said, okay, here's what I want you to do, man. I said, listen, I want you to go upstairs and get me all your shoes. Take this plastic bag and get me all your shoes. And he's just looking shook. So it goes upstairs and gets all the shoes And he brings them downstairs And I said listen What's your favorite pair of shoes?

And he just says quiet He said well I like these Jordan fours I said okay I said well you ain't keeping these fours I'm gonna give you these Adidas You keep these you got one pair of shoes I said all right son I said well listen Let me break it down like this

This is what's happening I said you have been running a business Without proper business licensing I said whenever you want to run a business And wherever you are You have to get proper license from the state, nigger, and I am the state. And you did not get proper licensing from me,

so I'm shutting your business down. I said, now also, I said, now also, wait, no, there's a dead ass. All this is brilliant. No, I said, now also, I said, you have been running a business, and you have not been reporting your income from this business.

I said, so when that happens, what the federal government does, they do what is known as seizing your assets. Whoa. I said, so all of your shoes. Real life. I'm about to take and keep until we figure out exactly how much money you owe me. I said, so we keep in all that.

That's me. Fonte. Brough. Why are you hating? On an enterprising young man. No, no, no. Let me finish. Y'all don't understand.

No, I do. And you're brilliant. Y'all are both brilliant. So listen. I said, listen. I said, so you give me that. I said, how much money you got? He said, I got like $27.

I said, run that, nigger. So he gave me $27. So I took his $27. So I took his $27. And I was like, okay, run that shit. So he gave me $27. I said, so listen, what we're going to do, I said, so now, from him moving forward, you got one pair of shoes that you're going to use for the rest of school until we figure out this arrangement of how much you owe, how much you've made,

and how much you haven't paid on. So he's just looking confused and mad and shit. I am too. So, okay, so a couple weeks later, he comes back to me. And we're talking about a different subject. He wanted to play, he wanted to play GTA on PS on Xbox. He wanted to play Grand Theft Auto, which is like a game in which you can pick up hookers and fuck them and do all kinds of things. At this time, he's like 12.

It's true. Oh, that's normal, right? Okay, good. So, yeah what I mean? So he was like, well, Dad, I want to play this game. And I don't understand why you won't let me play it. And I don't understand why you took my shoes, whatever. I said, okay, well, let's talk about it.

I said, okay. I said, well, let me break it down like this. I said, listen, I said, so what happens, let me ask you a question. I said, what happens when someone takes your shoes, let's say someone takes your shoes and they go stomp in a mud puddle and then they bring them back to you? What do you do? He says, oh, well, I mean, I just clean them off. I said, okay, so another nigga is going to ruin your shoes, fuck them up, and you're going

going to clean them off? I said, how do you think that's going to make you look to everybody else out in the world? How does that, how do you think that's going to look? What does that say about you as a person? Someone can just take your shit to file it and then you're going to clean it up. And he was quiet. I said, okay, you know what?

I said, well, let me ask you another question. I said, I'm going to ask you no question. I said, oh, I forgot to leave this out. So he came home with a new pair of shoes one day. He came home with a new pair of Jordan threes. And he was like, yeah, dad, I bought these for my friend for like $15. I said, nigga, you bought these shoes for $15? Yeah.

And I didn't say nothing. And I said, okay. So later on, I said, okay, so peanut, I said, what if you out at the school bus and, like, a dude run up on you? Like, hey, man, then my brother's shoes. Then my brother's shoes, take them shit. So I'm going to beat your ass. What do you do? He said, well, I would probably run.

I said, okay, I'm going to pretend you didn't say that. Because, like, running, like, you sign a real bitch right now. I'm just to act like you didn't say that. I said, let's, okay, I'm going to act you and say that. I said, so what would you do? He said, well, I would go and probably tell a teacher. I said, oh, so you're going to snitch. Now you snitching.

That's what's hot in the streets. We snitching? That's what you're doing? You snitching? He said, okay. He said, okay. Well, okay. Well, I would probably come and tell you.

I said, oh, so you're going to come and tell me because I'm the muscle of your operation. I'm the goon and I'm just going to beat motherfuckers down. And that's just what the fuck I do. Right? You going to call me. So he was quiet. I said, listen, man. Here's the lesson I want you to understand.

I said, brother. shoes them shoes sell retail at best and i'm being nice them shit sell at retail for 140 dollars that's being nice i said and he sold them to you for 15 what nigger you know is going to take a hundred and twenty five dollar loss on shoes just to sell them to you why because they're your friend fuck no i said listen man if somebody's selling something to you at that much of a loss it ain't theirs the fucking sell i said so more than likely it's either

they fucking stole them from somebody else or they, you know, took him. I said, nigga, what's to stop a nigga from renting your shoes for five and then sell them to another nigga for 15? Wow. What's to stop them from doing that? And he was just quiet. I said, listen, ma'am. I said, listen, I want you understand something.

This is what I want you understand. It's great that you are an enterprising young businessman. You got it honest. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm the same way. I said, but listen, school is not a place to run a business because eventually you're going to run into a conflict that you're going to have to handle that's going to fuck up you being in school.

I said, so then when all the shit shakes out and a nigga either bring your shit back fucked up or short you some money or whatever, you're going to get into a fight or whatever. Now you're in the principal's office, and now you're in the principal's office, and they're like, okay, well, what happened? And they find out you running this shoe.

I said, so, nigga, so you're running what is known. That's Rico, nigga. That is a continuing criminal enterprise. that is a you are running a sneaker racket illegally. I said so now your ass is expelled from goddamn school.

You are scaring the shit out of him. You hear I quiet this room just got? No, he's fucking, I said, listen, you were running a continuing criminal enterprise. I said, so now your ass is kicked out of school over $5. Dang. Yo, I need a white holiday song right now.

This is John Cougar Mellon Camp's I saw Mommy Kissin' Santa Claus. Really? He tried that? That was your best segue ever. Ever. You know what I need? White Christmas song. Ladies and gentlemen, in an effort to ensure that I have a job with this company in 2017,

that was Indiana's own John Cougar Mellon camp saying I saw Mommy kissing Santa Claus. Uh-uh. I just, I had to, I mean, your storytelling skills, Fonte is just off the chain. You are a girl. At first, I was like, I was like, why are you hating on your son? I was proud of him for doing that. But then once you showed us the errors in our way and the perils of street hustling. Yo.

You are a real daddy. He didn't see it. But these are the kind of conversations I have to have, man. But you like a real dad? I just don't know what the average daddy are. In your head, you're like, you do this with sneakers now, then it'll be weed later. Nigger, come on, all day. I didn't even see that.

Yeah, it's going to be cracked, you know, in three years. But can we still kind of nurture his business acumen because it is there? Absolutely. So the counter that, what you're saying like, what I told him, I said, listen. I use acumen. You know what I mean? Accummen. No, that was a great word.

That's a great word. I did black radio for a long time. Yes, we were having a problem. We were having a problem. And we were talking. And, you know, he was having a problem. grades around this time. And so I told him, I was just like, listen, man,

he had a problem with his grades, and then he had a problem with the girls, because he's like, you know, he's at the age where he was kind of getting in the girls at the time. And so I said, listen, man, can't take a little. I don't know. No, we can't do that.

No. I just be trying to give him the knowledge, man. Give him the condom to them. I just told him straight up, this was like eighth grade. And I was just like, listen, man, I said, listen, the reason why your grade, your bitches is wish you watch you,

because your grades is which you watch you. Is that really? You're the engineers dying. No, that was it. I was like, listen. I was breaking down. I said, listen, man. Someone's going to text message me that.

I'm sure they are. I said, no, I said, listen. This is how I broke it down to him. I said, look, man. I said, listen. I said, look, man. I said, you remember we went to see Planet of the Apes? You know what I'm saying?

And he was like, so we didn't see Dawn Planet Apes. He said, yeah, that shit was lit. He said, I remember? I remember. I was like, yeah, man. So you remember playing an eggs? I said, I said, now you remember what happened when Caesar, you know, when Caesar got fucked up and then his son came and was like, Dad, we need you to come back.

Come back, Dad, we need you. And he was like, no, son, I can't come back weak. I can't, I can't. And he was like, no, dad, we need you to come back. Really, Cobra's coming. He's here and he's fucking up for everybody. We need you. And I said, what did Caesar tell his son?

I said, if you don't remember, he said, no, I can't come back, son. Ape seek strongest branch. Ape seek strongest branch. I said, so listen. I said, you remember nothing else I told you tonight about women, about relationships, about gang. I said, nigga, you remember this. A ape seek strongest branch.

A woman is always going to want to seek the strongest branch that she can reach of. Once she feels that your branch is given, if it's weak, if it's bending, she's off to the next fucking branch. So what does that mean for you? That means you got to be the strongest branch that you can be. not for her fuck her you gotta be the strongest branch for you

I was there you I was there you got to be the strongest branch for you you know what I'm saying for you I said so

all these problems you having in school and all that I said listen when they with the girls whatever I said listen

if you focus on your school work and be the best branch you can be doing what you got to be the best branch the best branch the best branch

unique New York all that shit so look New York. 10 p.m. If you be all of that, the woman is going to take care of itself. The man that is always on his mission doing what he got to do,

nigger, you ain't ever going to have no woman problems. You ain't going to be cool, but you got to be on your mission. That's the number one thing in your life is your mission. It ain't her. It's the mission. A woman wants a man that's on a mission. I said, so you showing up half-ass the classes, fucking up, fell in grades and shit?

I said, nigga, that's why you, you, wishy-washy that's why your bitches is wishy-washy he ain't never lie that's lesson fonte what the fuck's go on there Merry Christmas yeah let's yeah I'm sorry you're like the prophet fat tular yeah okay good I feel as though this has been an amazing lesson life lesson it's life lessons with tigolo not this is but dog these are the kind of conversation I had hell with my kids, man. Like, I have to have them kind of conversations. I can't wait to see them as men.

They should be really dope, man. I hope so. I mean, I hope so. You know, it's 50-50. You know, they could be great men. Give them 75. They could be scammers, nigga. I don't know.

But, no, I mean, you just never know. It's that part of your kids that you can't control. I don't know about that life. Yo, it's crazy. So, no, but those are conversations that have with my kids. And so after I explained it to him like that, then he kind of got it. And, you know, he's been doing good. Shout to my older son.

He got a 3.0 his first semester. freshman year in high school. So, you know, big ups to him. I love him. I'm proud of him. And, yeah, man, we just want to keep their momentum going. But, you know, I just have to keep explaining to them the things in your life right now that are important. These people that you put so much stock in, three years, you're not going to care about none of these motherfuckers.

Like, high school is the most fleeting shit ever, you know what I mean? But it's hard. Don't feel like that when you're there, though. It doesn't. It feels so important. So back to Christmas. So, yeah, my son is a sneakerhead, and that was what I was. That's what we were talking about.

My son was a sneaker head, so I'm trying to explain to him that, like, all the kids in life right now that, like, had the hottest, like, 7th grade, that had the hottest, the new Js and the new this and the hot new this. I said, son, I need you understand something. This is the peak of their lives. All the niggas I went to school with that had the hot new, new dis. new shit, nigga, their lives never advanced past that. That was it. 20 years later, the cool kids. The cool kids.

20 years later, them niggas is still fucking talking about, yo, nigga, you remember first day of seventh grade, nigga, I had that joins, nigga. Yo, shout out. No, I don't remember that because I had lived a life that was fulfilling. Yo, shout-outs to my flight attendant mommy that used to go to Korea and get me the fake shit on my Sergio de Kini and my MCM bags. You know what I'm saying?

And I was proud. I was proud that it was fake because I was like, y'all really spending all that money? That's crazy. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th.

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I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come look for up-and-coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you, you're not. You're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore. It's okay to quit.

If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right. It wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

That's great. I wish I could tell this story. No, tell it. You can't. I think I could tell this. No, I'm running that shit, son. All right. We were doing a song with Scott Storch once during the tipping point season that Bill so lovingly is fond.

The Jones of John. Which one was it? I didn't hate Tipping Point. Which one was it? Guns of John. The PD John was the banging John. All right. Anyway.

All right. That was the next record. Anyway. Right. But so, you know, 2004, Kanye had a lot of us messed up in kind of like, you know, doing high in fashion shopping or whatever. And so this is a point where our beloved shout out to Bert Carl Jenkins, aka Dice. We're all. Dice riddle.

Where, you know Dice very well. Like he is, I'm certain that even Dice's shoes right now cost more than like what my. apartment did. It might be true. Yeah. I didn't know what purple label was. Yeah. Dice, ostrich, you know, whatever.

Like, he's rocking some next shit. Anyway, Scott Storch, who, you know, at the time was really swimming in a lot of money, having to have, like, a Louie bag sitting in the studio room. And Scott said something to Dice, like, oh, running my Louie bag real quick and give me da-da-da-da. So Dice went over, and he kind of. noticed that oh wait a minute this is a knockoff louis bag now and dice's head it was like you know dice i mean scott was making big giant nine figures that year and he's like yo like you know why are you walk around this fake louis bag like you're scott stores you have all the money in the

world and scott laughed so hard he's like wait that's a real louis back you're holding dice Like Dice's bag was real Louis. Oh, me. And he was like, that's a real Louis bag? You have Dice? Dice's like, yeah, my bag is real. And Scott laughs at heart. Like, dog, why would you pay that much money?

Like I have the same bag. Like the kid rock store. Yes, exactly. So, you know. The kid rock, because you know how kid rock said. He purposely rocks, like, fake stuff. Because why would you be wearing all that expensive shit? But that's rich nigger shit, though.

You can do that as a rich nigga because people assume if you're rich and you rock and knock off shit they assume it's real you know what I'm saying but like you know if you're a broke nigga and you rock knockoff shit then you look even more broke you know I mean that interest that niz yeah it's fucked up actually you're that's funny you said that I mean the few times that uh I've chilled with kid rock Bob Bob he used to relentlessly well I mean it's been like person named basses with Kid Rock that was like 20 years I I've known this dude. The Bob, the bang to bang.

You're like, like, you know, like, I'm in the industry, right? No, it's just kind of funny that Kid Rock has an actual name and it's Bob.

Bob. Yeah, I mean, his first album was a rap album. I mean, you know, Bob. Well, I mean, rap in quotation marks.

Anyway, yeah, like, he, he just never got the whole, like, why are you guys wearing Louis Vuitton and Gucci stuff?

He used to always tease us and, point at our shoes and stuff. In the pit, they're trying to love someone. But that's the thing, though, man. Like, I remember I read a quote from Mark Zuckerberg, and he was, like, talking about how he wears the same thing every day. Yep.

Because that gives him one less thing to think about. I'm working towards that. I'm the same way. I mean, I'm sure. I mean, we've been doing Quixosal Supreme for a while now. Hell very good till I die. All y'all have been seeing me wear, like, it's like four things, four outfits that I have in my whole arson.

Racha t-shirt, we know. Gammle still drive a Honda Accord. Who the Lange? He has a-Gamble does? He owns a box. Yeah, but he still does not drive a fancy car. He owns schools. I know, but he drives a Honda.

He owns schools because he drives a Honda Accord. Well, he owns schools because, you know, ain't nobody to look at their contract. Yeah, because they ain't had no overhead. It's Duce. It's Duce. Blame it on the, can we play that? Alcohol. Are we still in a holiday mode?

Drunk? Say what? Filonious pain. Some background, Christmas music. I got to say my goodbyes. You're leaving us? Yeah. Where are you going, Steve?

Going to Andy Bravo's show, whatever that guy's name is. You're going to watch What Happens Live? What Are you going to do there? Yo, he is such a... Watch What Happens Live expert. I love that. Are you going to sit in the audience? No, I'm not an expert.

It's my girl. girl's birthday tonight. You got a girl? She's an expert. I didn't know you had a girl. Let's talk about this because I don't know. No, no, no. Just put on the Christmas.

We'll talk. No, no. Can you please put on dreidel, dreidel, so let me get this straight. You and Amir's girl both have birthdays in the week. Jada, Drado. With dreedo, I will play.

Oh, it's interesting. Anyway. This is so interesting. So how long have you been not single? So I want to wish a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year. I know you brought her up. Lie here.

Let him do his thing. So I wanted to wish you happy Christmas and happy Hanukkah, happy Kwanza, happy New Year to everybody. I'd like to thank Electric Lady for letting us be here this year and hopefully next year. Phil Jolly. Phil Jolly's the engineer in there. Hi, Phil. Hey, Phil.

I know, Bill Jolly. My nigga, Phil. Ducet. Phil, because that's my Fier. Seth Paris is assisting in there. Hey, Seth. Hey, Seth. Hey, it's Seth.

I think we're coming to get evicted. Here's Ashley, everybody. Happy birthday. Oh, this is your girlfriend. Oh, this is your girlfriend? Aw. Happy birthday, Ashley. That poor girl.

Happy birthday, Ashley. We interview her when you leave? Because I just need to know. Happy birthday, we wish your happy birthday and we hope he leave it in tonight. Leave it. You bet not it out. So gently.

You go, my God. I'll be right now. As, forgive us, we're quite drunk right now. Ask, would you like some duise? Do you know what? No. Do you know what? No, Ashley did you so?

You know what? We don't have any more. Mado boy. I think we drank all. Oh, God damn. I'm sorry. Focus team supreme. Really?

On what? On getting this episode done so we can leave. Oh, okay. Yes, all right. Bye bad. So, Fonte, give us. what you're grateful for for Christmas. Yo man, I'm grateful

for life. I'm grateful. I said grateful. Great, grateful. Can I say Thanksgiving? No, but I'm just saying. Just tells what you're grateful for. Yo, man, listen. We can be humble with Thanksgiving, right? No, absolutely. And Thanksgiving and Christmas. This is Christmas. Oh, wait.

This is Christmas set. Come on, man, I got TT. Okay, listen. Listen, this. Okay, real, real shit. Okay, listen. I'm thankful for my life. I'm thankful for being in the presence of greatness, you know what I'm saying, for being a part of Team Supreme and being able to help people's lives,

you know what I'm saying, as they get through their day at work, you know what I'm saying? I've had so many people hit me on Twitter and Instagram, everything, saying that listen to the show and that, like, yo, man, your show helps me get through my day at work, you know what I'm saying? Thank you for doing what you do. And so, man, listen, I'm thankful for life.

I'm thankful for my family. I'm thankful for my lady. I'm thankful for my kids for keeping me grounded. And you know, unlike most people, or a lot of people that I'm seeing, you know, that are just all doom and gloom under this Trump presidency that were about to be in. 2017, man, I think that

if nothing else, this would be the year that black people will realize all we got is us. You better. All right. All right. All we got is us. You know what I mean? And so for me, I'm just like, listen, man,

no matter who they was going to put in all this well, it was going to be Clinton, Hillary, fucking Ron Paul, nigger Giuliani. Ran. Got them Rand Paul, whoever, whoever, Randy Jackson. Randy Jackson. Eddie them niggas.

Damn, Jermaine, whoever. Derek B. Soda Poppinski. You all I mean? And Dr. York. And Dr. York. No matter who they put in office, I was going to still have to get up every morning

and figure out how I'm going to make it happen for me and mine. You know what I mean? And so, you know, wise words. So, man, so, you know, whatever, I know this election has a lot of people on edge and nervous. But, you know, at the end of the day, all I would just say is, listen, man.

All we ever had was each other. All we ever had was us. And you know what I'm saying? The people that ride with you, the people that fuck with you, white, black, Jewish, Buddhist, whoever to fuck. The people that in your life that are legitimately riding for you, all y'all can do is support each other, ride for each other, and just get through this shit, man.

We're going to be all right. You know what I mean? It ain't all doomsday and gloom and we all done. And oh, my God, fuck that. We still got life. We still here. We can still fucking make it, dude. So that's what I'm, man.

I'm thankful for life and I'm thinking for every day another chance to be a better man than I was the day before. Okay. Umpeville. I think you just said it. Everything. Fonte. I have raved for Fonte.

Fonte makes you laugh so fucking hard. I'm thankful for friends, man. My kids and my friends. I never thought that I'd be in this position and I'm fucking, it's fantastic. Laya. That's Steve. He got the note.

I love everything. Everybody in this room, man. I totally do. All right. I'm thankful. I'm thankful that, you know, last year I was unemployed, and my unemployment had just ran out. And today I am here with you talented fellows.

And really, you are a group of talented fellows. I don't say it a lot. I don't like to teach y'all horn, but since it's the holidays, I will say this. I tell my friends all the time, it is nice to be in a room full of greatness. And I mean you, too, Bill. She was pointing at Bill Sherman.

Yes. Not Margaret. Either way. And let me say this too. For you, Laia, I always thought when we first started doing this, that we needed a woman, and I could not ask for a better woman than you. I could not ask for a better woman. We've known each other for a long time.

We go way back. And, you know, man, seriously, you know, I love you as a sister, as a friend. And, you know, you always got me for whatever you need for life. You know what I mean? That work wife. My work wife and all that. No, not sperm because I'm sniffed and my shit is over. Shit.

So, you know, really? That's some talented swimmers, you guys. But if you need plasma, he's got plenty of plasma. I got plenty of plasma for you. No sperm, but I got plasma. Bill, what? Bill. Give us a zero ball.

Give us some final thoughts. Not. Final thoughts on what? On Christmas or? I know you're a Grinch, bro, but, you know. I'm not a Grinch. Stop trying this Oscar shit. You're trying to Oscar this shit.

You're so optimistic, Boss Bill. You ain't no Oscar. His final last words. The Beach Boys' Christmas. Christmas album. That whole album's awesome. But no, I understand you more than I ever have Boss Bill. I don't.

Dead ass. I don't know Bill. Yo, me and Boss Bill are so much alike, it's scary. I'm just like, the shit that he be saying is scary because we're so much alike. And that was, like, I think a big reason why we did Gordon Gartero Radio. Like, we just got each other on an intrinsic level. So, no, he's not the Grinch. He's just a staunch realist.

Yeah, I have high expectations of. everyone. Lower them expectations. I'm about to say, is that what you thankful for? I was never told what to talk about. I was just asked for some final thoughts. So I just started fucking talking. So what do you want me to talk about?

What? Are you thankful for? Final thoughts? Thankful of shit? Okay. What am I thankful for? I'm thankful that this radio show is. Just say something nice. Okay, I'm thankful that this radio show exists because if this radio show didn't exist, I'd probably be living in Indiana. In a city that is actually on a list that I saw on the internet for having high Ku Klux Klan activity. It's also the same thing.

It's the same city where? Kokomo, Indiana, where I grew up. Kokomo. Let's talk about the fucking Ku Klux Klan. No! The Kukukukklan! No, no, because they're about to have a rally in you in North Carolina. And I'm just like, dude, you need you live there sometimes.

Yeah, I live there, but I love it. I love it. It's a great place. It's happy. It's happy. No, I love it. But the Ku Klux Klan. Let's talk about the Ku Klux Klan.

You niggers are like the fucking blackberry of racists. They're not listening. You should know it. But you niggas still, like, you niggas are still marching and putting on costumes. It's like, no, like, don't you know, racism has evolved past that? Real racist or red lightning school districts. You know what I mean? Like, y'all niggas still marching and like, what the fuck are you doing?

Y'all niggis still using an attractive? You know, say joy to the world. Say joy to the world right now, Fonte. Fonte, say joy to the world. Joy to the world. All right. Listen. Can I just...

That's the best thing you've ever said in the history of the world. All right. I'm thankful for the fact that I'm still here on this earth right now. I'm glad you here, Bill. I was able to be on the earth at the same time as all of you people. Oh. Hey, yo, boss bill, yo, I mean to Joe. I love you, brother.

Because I know it's hard for you. We've been a long... We have a long history, man. I've got a lot of love to get today. Yeah, man. You wrap it up, B. Okay. Can I wrap it up finally?

Yes, boss man. I'm thankful for... Yeah, talk to us boss, man. I'm thankful that... Wait, I'm also thankful that Pander is not going to cancel us because of this episode. Shout out to Scott Yeo. Oh, man, Scott Yeo. Shout to Scott, yeah, yo.

Shout to Scott Beyo. My brother, my brother, my man's... My man's, we go into the... Wrap it up, me. We go into the Brazilian spot. Right after this, I'll get some Lomo Centado. We're going to get some motherfucking arrosse, yo. We're going to get all that shit, son.

Listen. I got a TT. Can y'all make this? All I can say, all I can say is on behalf of the team supreme. We're sorry. Everything that they said, and in addition, Scott Yeo. Boss Bill is on the floor right now. If this show, why's up?

Yeah, yo. Can you tell us you love us? Are you going to tell us you love us? Are you going to tell us you love you? I gave you all a lot of money for Christmas. I love you. No, Amir, no, I mean this, brother. I mean this for real, man.

And I'm drunk. So you know I mean it for real. I'm drunk. So you know it's real, nigga. I'm drunk. No. So, nigga, you know it's real. This is what you're talking to.

Philipson. This is what talking to DeAngelo's like. Oh, no. No, Amir, man, you were from the front from the jump. You have been the biggest, one of the biggest supporters of my group, of my career. You have always, like, stood by me, you know what I'm saying? And I'm saying that supported me and all that shit. And I mean this, man.

You do a lot for a lot of people who may not always say this. And I really want to say this, brother, I love you, man. Like, seriously. You know, I love you guys, too, thing. I know, I know. I know, I'm saying. I know what? I hate you.

But, you know what? But, like, listen, man. Yo, I got to go to work. But no, dog. I love you, man. I love you all, too. You can put the drumsticks down tonight, and I will still love you. You good for a plate in my house.

Anytime, my nigga. I mean that. And on behalf of the drunken Team Supreme, this is Questlove. Thank you for the win, ladies and gentlemen. Happy Shakana to all of you. What's happy news. Westlove Supreme is a production of I-Heart Radio.

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