The Questlove Show - QLS Classic: 2017 Year in Review with Roy Wood Jr.

Episode Date: January 9, 2023

Comedian and actor Roy Wood Jr. looks back on the roller coaster year that was 2017 with Questlove and Team Supreme. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Where were you? I gotta take it one of them long-ass eight ball pissing. I bet. Suprema, SUP-Supprema roll call. Suprema, SUPREMA roll call. The 17 is over. I'm not a moment too late. Yeah.

I'm gonna have a better life. Yeah. And two. Supriva. Suprema roll call. Suprema, sub. You want to get it?

Suprema roll call. My name is Fonte. Yeah. You know I got it. Yeah. I am why. Yeah. Black people ain't patriotic.

So. Suprema. Subrema role call. Suprema. Subrema. Subrema role call. My name is Sugar. Yeah.

Happy New Year to you. Yeah. And happy Hanukkah. Yeah. To the chosen people. Suprema, sub, sub, sub, sub, sub, So on Roll Call. Supriam, Subima, Roll Call.

Law still can't believe that this year is done. Yeah. Seems like yesterday, yeah, was January 1. Roll call. Suprema, Subrima, Subrima, Role Call. Suprema, Submma, Submina, Submina, Role Call. So what a year.

Yeah. Too much to say. Yeah. She's got to have it. Yeah. That's all I wanted to say. Damn, really? No, you didn't.

No. How did it did? How did it be that? Supreme. My name is Roy. Yeah. I'm from Alabama. Yeah.

I'm celebrating Kwanza. Yeah. Even though I don't know what their Kwanza is. Supremma. Surma. Supremea Roll call. They too. Suprema.

Subima role call. Suprema. Suprema. Suprima. Subima. Suprima. Suprima. Suprema

Subima Roca Wait a minute Okay because it's hard for me to hear myself It was like Table of Contents Part one up in

Really? It was that loud I'm apologizing To Spike Lee and everybody at the cast If she's got to have it No I didn't Like

In my head It was like It didn't sound as Yeah I thought I was doing it off mic Oh that shit was in stereo And it was on cue Steree

Serrieree Yeah That shit was in Lucas Would you like to finish your Did I just She gotta have it That's a, you know Okay

But a long year She got to have it Like I remember right now Welcome to Questlove Supreme The Annual Our second

The Koojee Chagulea episode That's what day At Kwanza it is Kuzi Chungaliyah Yes Kana Linguish what? Whatever you prefer

Bo That's That's the day That's the day That's the actual Kwanza day today Kooji Chungalia Yeah Can white people

celebrate Quanza? Yes, they can. It's funny you asked that, Roy. Who's the voice of saying that? Our resident Quanda Quanza expert. Ladies and gentlemen, first of all, we'd like to thank you for tuning in, and right now we have a friend dropping by

on us unexpectedly. Very funny guy. Very, extremely funny. I mean, well, I'd first heard of you from the Foxhole, but I mean, you've had history. Take it back. The prank calls. Yeah. Oh, good. Exactly. I used to listen even pre- YouTube or whatever.

We used to listen to those email forward. What is that? Email forward. That's when you went viral in 2002. Well, I mean, now you could just go on YouTube, listen to things that are archived. I can't remember. Pre-Utube days. Oh, yeah. It's long ago, but we used

to listen to those prank calls a lot on the tour bus. Friendster. That's back of a day. Anyway, Daily show, Last Comic Stanix, so many, you've done Conan a lot also. Shout out to Conan, man. He used to work. He used to give me work when nobody else would. Exactly.

Yes, he looked out for the cookout. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome one of our favorite comedians, Roy Wood Jr. Yes, so. Thank you all. Alabama. Birmingham, Alabama's own. Yeah, man.

You know, Alabama. I'm sorry about all the drama Alabama calls y'all this year. That's how the white folks are. They ride horses to the polls and they talk about gay people and slavery. And they bring their guns. Yeah, just to a speech. Just bring a gun. I'm Roy Moore.

I got a gun. Just in case. A pistol. So, Roy, okay, so we'd be remissed if we didn't say that, of course, we tape some episodes of Questlove Supreme, rather, weeks of advance of us going on the air. But this particular taping, we are kind of awaiting the results. Well, I don't know if we're awaiting the results of the, well, I mean, but. Senate run off. Do we kind of know how it's going to go?

No, I mean it's... Oh, you have hope? I got to. A little bit. I got to. I know a lot of black folks in Bammer. I'm hoping that, you know, everybody gets my mom. As the great philosopher, the game once told us.

You only have to say it. You don't have to finish that sense. You don't even have to finish that sentence. Anything's possible if 50 fucked Vivica. That don't apply. And that's the show, ladies you know, man. I appreciate it. Hated or love it, the underdogs on top.

Yep, so we was talking outside, so you got to break it down for the audience, what it is with the other cat. Doug Jones. Here's the thing, I don't really, like, as a black person. Is he the lesser two evil? Yeah, I'm the Democrat, and I locked up the Klan. That's what he's running on. Like, he ran on this platform that he was one of the people who prosecuted two of the last

living clans members who bombed the 16th Street Baptist Church back in the 60s. But the truth of the matter. is that it wasn't like he crusaded to, we got to reopen this case, God damn it. I know that I fucking can lock him up. No, the FBI reopened the 16th Street bombing, and Doug Jones was a dude at the time, like, yo, you're the person in the office that does this type of shit.

So go prosecute this dude, and they lock the Klansman up, and now he's hanging his hat on that, and that's fine. Do what you do. So he wasn't actively pursuing it. Don't act like this was 19th. He prosecuted this dude in like the late 90s. Don't act like it was night. The church wasn't still smoldering when you marched into the damn courthouse.

Yeah, his nigga did it when muddy waters came out. He probably birthed a lot of clans. The fucking Klansman died like two months after he got locked up. He was old. So don't, and I just feel like this is what I was telling you. I tell you outside is that you know as a white dude he didn't properly crusade for black justice because they never gave him his movie. True.

You're very true. You get black justice. You're supposed to get your movie. He didn't get his civil rights movie. If he wins tonight, he's getting a movie. Is he? I don't know. Is he?

I don't know. Like, how low does your steam have to be if a child molester beat you? You got to lead the game, bro. What's this after party going to be like? Yo, we got bigger fisting for it. I was just going to say you could ask Hillary that question. Oh. I was about to.

And that's where I was going. And that's where, and that's where we are. It's from the top down. Happy 2017, everybody. That's how I started with your boy Trump and his lady friend. This dude said, I dated some girls that might have been teenagers, but I got their mammy's permission. He said America was good back when there was still slavery.

He said being gay should be illegal. He showed up to the polls to vote on a horse. If you lose to that dude, you have to get out of politics. It takes me. Okay, so you just got to get out the game, bro. This is not for you. Okay, I'm not trying to piggyback off of, uh, I haven't recently just found out my entire family comes from Alabama.

I'm now like sort of taking interest in what's down there. Alabama jokes and shit, man. Well, no, I'm just saying that, you know, before I could ignore Alabama. Okay, y'all, y'all gave us the Commodores. Oh, God. Wow. Who else? I mean, I'm with you. I mean, just in general, it's like, I mean, do we really, as Northerners, I mean, as

northerners, we've always had this reputation of being snooty and above it all and sort of looking down at our southern counterparts. But, you know, only, yes, I understand that we should all, the Commodores. You're still on that. We also gave y'all Beyonce's mama. So y'all respect that. My dad in Louisiana. My mama Alabama.

My Texas knows something. I don't know. Something that's my country grandma. Yeah. You mix their Texas with that Bama. Beyonce experts all of a sudden. I know that. I mean, we were talking about.

I didn't even get to that part. I mean, we was going off on New Kids on the Block last week. So, I mean. Okay. He was older than that. We've asked over that. All I'm saying is. All I'm saying is, is there hope for Alabama?

Is there hope? Yes, yes. Like, are there any parts of Alabama that seem remotely progressive? Yes, absolutely. So I'm from Birmingham. So Birmingham is a blue county, deep blue county in the middle of a red state. I think Montgomery's a blue county as well. Birmingham just got a new mayor, 36-year-old brother named Randall Woodfin.

Matt him, yes. And this dude is all about changing everything. This brother came in. Now, Birmingham's had black mayors since the 70s, but it's always been an older guard, 60 or over, 70-year-over type brothers who have a different ideology. So now you have someone that's young. The first thing he did, literally the day after he was sworn in,

was fire half of the old mayor's staff. Like when you talk about somebody serious about bringing in new blood and new people from top to bottom, what's up, man? You the janitor? Yeah, I'm going to need you to give me your mop, bro. We're going to go on. going to sing on you everybody got fired

so you have that and then also in Birmingham um there's a Birmingham and I would argue this for the whole I know for the state it's a fact and I wonder I'd love to check the numbers to see what it is nationally but we have nine black women sitting as judges on the city

and county level which is important because it's a predominantly black city where all the drug laws getting black people locked up so when you're a black person and you go in front of a black judge. These black women, a lot of them are taking all of these different sentencing alternatives. Instead of just throwing a Negro away

and locking them up and leaving them in a rotten jail, hey, I'm going to give you the second chance, but go get that high school diploma for me. Come back and see me in a year. I think you got that house. Hey, I will lock you up, but you know what? Go to this drug rehab program. Treating drugs as a disease instead of just, oh, you hold on. Yeah, exactly.

So when you have people like that doing stuff like that now, I think it's a slow crawl. And if you look at Birmingham and what it was 20 or 30 years ago, Negroes wasn't getting that type of benevolence in the legal system. So it's a start. I got to say that

it was I was surprised. I was surprised. We did like a show in Birmingham like maybe last year and was throwing off by the tree, the willows, I'm still that still scares the living mess out. Oh yeah, them hanging trees, yeah. They're still up there.

but it seemed a little more forward than the rest of Alabama. It was always overtly friendly, like to a level that I wasn't used to. You know what I blame that on, no man. Like, I'm just being, it sounds like a cop out because I'm from the state, but I just blame it on how the South is portrayed more often than not in television and film, especially Alabama. More often than not, if Alabama is the focus of something, it's either some period piece from back in the day

where it's nigger, nigger, and I'm gonna save you and you get out of town, boy, or it's first 48. Like, those are pretty much the only two options in terms of how Alabama's portrayed or some Forrest Gump, backwoods type shit. Do you resent that? I mean, because even the term Bama, like when we...

Oh, yeah, I'd get over there. I'd have been mad every day. But I understand it because you got a dude down there who says gay people. should be in jail. Oh, wait, Bama's a bad thing? I didn't see. Oh, yeah, yeah, you're just a country motherfucker.

Oh, yeah, I did know that. But in D.C. is different. It's like, we turned the bad into the good. Sometimes you could be a bad Bama, but then what up Bama? Oh, there's a good Bama? Yeah, like, what up? I never knew that. Like, it was so bad. I wouldn't tell people I was from Alabama. I would specifically say Birmingham

so that it didn't trigger the Bama in their head. Like, when I meet people. Where you're from? Alabama. Oh, you're a Bama. You're right. I'm sorry. And I can't get mad.

Because even Ronald Richie's like, Great Tuskegon. He would not say, he wouldn't say Alabama, but he said Tuskegee. Yeah, that's how we do, man. It's an interesting place. I just feel like there are more progressive parts of the city, which is why it's important for me anytime I'm out and I'm doing shit, that I'm screaming Alabama at the top of my lungs.

Anytime I'm on television to make sure that people know that good shit can still, that there's still good shit coming out of the state. It ain't just white my fuck on the whole. horse. And in all fairness to the south, though, like how Birmingham is to Alabama, Philly is to Pennsylvania. Like, people don't know that Pennsylvania is red as shit. Yes. I mean, in some of the largest, Jersey has some of the largest clan population in the country. So, and I'm just saying that, you know, Birmingham, I was surprised. I mean, I went there. We did a couple of shows there. I think we was in 2015. We did a couple of foreign exchange shows. And afterwards, I took my boys to the,

to the museum. Oh, yeah, some rights museum. Sister Rice Museum and we went to the 16th, the church, and that shit was just crazy just to be sitting there and to think, like, a bomb went off. Right. Yeah, I mean, that shit was unreal. You're literally standing in the same spot in the church. Yeah.

You know what's interesting, though? Like, I don't know where in North Carolina, you all could have gone for, like, the Civil Rights Museums and the history and all that stuff. It's like Woolworth, all that. The sit-ins and all that. So you do the class field trips and all of that stuff when you're growing up.

We went to so. much historical black stuff that in a way when I grew up and I had the option of not going to a lot of that stuff I had to break it up. Like even when like

I was just, it's just part of your, it's part of your educational diet down south is this happened to you. This is what they did to us. Always remember, never, never forget it. Never, never, never. And before we moved when I was in the third grade,

we lived in Memphis until the third grade. So we took a tour of Alex Haley's house and they took us to all of the civil rights spots, Lorraine Motel, the whole lot. So I got to Birmingham. You're fed civil rights every single year. Class movie is civil rights movies. So when I became older, I was like,

yo, I got to take, like, I literally need a break on some PTSD type shit. I can't absorb this. So you haven't been to the Blacksonian. Have you been in D. I haven't been in D.C. I haven't been here. But they say it's a four hour and you leave.

Yeah, for him, though, I was about to say for you, Yeah, that shit is real intense. You need five hours of process it. And you're going to break it up in days. I'm just saying for the Birmingham. I understand what you're saying now. Like that's a capital of civil rights. There's so many things that happen there that you might want to, at the Smithsonian,

do one floor one day, the next day come back. So where I went before the Smithsonian, Atlanta opened up a new museum in the past year and a half. And I went to that one. And that was one. And I said, all right, I'll do the Smithsonian. I just, I just, oh, I need to. That's ground zero. Yeah, but, I mean, there's, there's.

There's also ways to take a break. You know, Oprah has their theater in there. You can watch stuff that Ava's done. You got to do a guide. Well, for him, like, I'm certain that Timothy's going to hold him down and take him through, you know. For everybody else who's listening who don't have a Timothy, I would say some, you know. But there's guides there too. And that was an old joke that I used to do.

I talked about how part of the problem with the Civil Rights Museum is that there's no one there to give you a hug before you leave. So you leave mad. Can I tell you, the way that the Smithsonian is built, you started the bottom, which is like middle passage. Oh, the saddest. Yes. And so you kind of start with a heavyweight boulder on your back, and you in the basement.

And then it kind of, it slowly gets better. But it's like. The second floor is Jim Crowe reconstruction. Oh, Jim Crow, yeah. Third floor is civil rights. But in victory, if you can make it, I'll admit. Was the fourth floor is like Obama?

Is that right? Yeah. No. No. Jordan. Like, Jordan, the mothership from P. I was just. Justin Jordan didn't there for real.

Yes. And it's weird, I've been there maybe five times, but again, you would have to, you won't have a complete experience there unless you spend five hours. In the beginning, the slave part, you're going to be in there for at least an hour. And I know during civil rights, you're going to want to see, they have a recreation of Emmett Till's funeral. Wow. They have the casket. They have the church views.

You walk up. Yeah. They want you to feel this. No, it's literally. It's, it's, it's a line. It's like I stood in line for 25 minutes to go past his casket. It's open. And you should see when the white people come through.

Like they, they're breaking down. Listen, they got a little metamorphosis. They go through by the time you get to a certain floor. It's like, they humble. Excuse me. In contrast, is the Holocaust Museum like that as well? I don't know. I don't know.

I'm serious. I've never. Steve, that's when you come in. I don't. Somebody say Holocaust? I'm sure there has to us were. I'm sure there has to be reminence. Or like the Anne Frank House.

I mean, I've been to Amsterdam. The Anne Frank House was a trip. I just don't think you should compare the two. It's kind of like the- Well, no, because my question is I'm just like, do other monuments to tragedies. Yeah, yeah. Because it's deep, I mean, you've been at the Smithsonian, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I, dude, I did not know that for the longest, if we had to see doctors or anything, veterinarians saw us. And they showed, they had a. Yeah, they would do dinner work on black people. Right.

And I didn't know that black women weren't allowed to see gynecologists. So just the torture devices they had to use for you to give childbirth, that fucked. Fucked with me. So, I mean, by the time you get to the fourth floor and you see like Jay Dilla's thing and the mothership connection and all that stuff. And let's keep it all the way funky. Ain't no greater tragedy in this country

than what happened to black people. So it's kind of hard to compare it. Native Americans? Native Americans continuously for the present day. Like, I don't know if it's been the longer tragedy. We're just asking if there's a facility. Yeah, if there's a facility. Yeah, I know.

I don't know. That's stuff, man. brief, you know, made into, I won't say commercialized, but are they exploited in that way? Well, I've never been to the Holocaust Museum, but I have been to the 9-11 Museum. Okay. And I found that to be really difficult and sort of, but not difficult in the way that you're talking about. Yeah, that's a different. Yeah, because you were alive then and you remember it?

No, I just find it to be like commercialized in a way. It was like a show. Like people taking the selfies in front of them. Yeah, there's a fucking gift shop. You know, or whatever. Oh, God. You know, it's like, there is.

Yeah, there is. And they're showing, you know, fire department shit, which is cool or whatever. And, you know, stuff like that for the first responders, like that theme, I guess. But, like, it just, it was like, fucking,

what am I going to fucking, like a 9-11 key chain. Yeah. You know, like, you know. A throat pillow, you know. Throw pillow. It's like, yeah.

With the fire department on. It's like, it's fucking crazy. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits,

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you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, for wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12. and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. You know what else I do sometimes? Like, if I've decided that a black struggle movie... I already know you're going to be.

If I've decided that a black struggle movie is going to be too intense for me and I just can't sit in the theater, I'll fandango a ticket opening weekend, and I will sit comfortably until that shit comes on the plane or I can stream it somewhere. and then watch it in 30 minute intervals so that when I start feeling angry.

So you didn't see Detroit yet. I'm halfway through it. Real shit. Wait, I'm like, let's talk black. And Marshall neither because I'm like, what are the movie? Yeah, it's right? Marshall?

I haven't seen Marshall yet. I haven't seen Marshall. I didn't even know that was that. I don't even know. Because the end of Marshall, y'all know at the end of March? I mean, I don't think you're spoiling it. It's all right?

Because it's pre-Supreme court, right? Wait. Does it go to 91? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. At the end of Marshall, it's like a moment where he takes on his next case, of course, and the case is Trayvon's parents, Trayvon Martin's parents. And they're like, it's like a period piece and they have lines and stuff. And all of a sudden you just end up crying.

It's like Trayvon's parents and the lawyer. Yeah, because they're in. His parents are actually in the joint, right? Yes, they're in it. And they're the next case, but they're dressed in their 1960s. It was awesome. Yeah, it's civil rights movies, man. I love it.

And we need them. and they're essential, but it just, it just, like Selm was the last one that I set in the theater in its entirety to watch. The rest of them, I fandango, and then I just have to eat that shit in bite-sized chunks. It's like watching a snuff film. You just see it out.

I mean, did you see that? Yeah, get out, but that's not really black shrug. Oh, dog. Oh, it was a scrub. Did you see get out? Yeah, yeah. I saw it get out like three times. But there was no Negro humming in the middle of, you know,

hmm-hmm. I'm talking about that Negro humming. For the beginning. Right in the beginning. Jesus In the house with a white woman Oh, get out Okay, so I guess since this is our end of the year

Of course, get out is one of the Major miracles of cinema Shout out to Jordan Piel, yo. Can I ask, though, do you think that everyone Got Get Out? Well, obviously the answer is no. Got get out because there's, I mean, there's different levels to watch it on.

Of course, by the first week, everyone was talking about the Easter eggs and the hidden meanings, but I still think that it went over a lot of people's heads. Like, they just saw it as a frothy horror film. It's almost to the point where I actually think that even the co-stars, like, I don't think that Allison truly. I didn't think she did either. I didn't think she did. Knew what she was getting into it. Well, because I know that underneath all of that, like,

I mean, Jordan's just so many levels of woke on, on, on, on, on the potent of the message. And how woke is he with his situation, too? But, okay, go ahead. With his situation. He's married to him.

Really? So, I don't know. He may, he may get out. Okay. He sure did. Well, that means he knows what it's like to be uncomfortable at a white family's house.

Right. I mean, he's just so interesting. I don't know. I don't know. I'm sure he's had a man. I'm sure he's had that guy in his bed. Hey, don't get me in the bed, but go ahead. I'm sorry.

No, I'm just saying. You know. I've seen it a few times. I saw it in the theater and then I saw it on cable. I saw it on cable. I saw it on cable. Wow. I'm proud of you, Steve.

But tell me, tell me what potentially I'm missing. Yeah, back to the original question. Did white people get the same as black people? What's the down under? Is that the sunken place? They did, but they're over it. They're over it now. The idea of the same.

idea of a sunken place, the idea of black bodies being controlled by white Yeah, I mean there was a lot of underhanded symbolism in there that I think just generally went over people's heads. Yeah, I'm okay, but what specifically what?

He just broke it down. But was that for white people? Were those parts of the film ever intended for white people to get? Like the scene where Daniel is dapping up Lekeith Stanfield and he goes for the dapp and Lekeith gives him the handshake. Right.

And he knew right then something was off. Right, right. I kind of feel like the last, that Get Out was almost the equivalent of the rise of the village people where in 1978, 79. I see where you're going. The, you know, they were America's favorite group. Everyone's like, well, MCA. Not knowing.

But nobody didn't know that this is a whole subculture we got your kids thinking about. Exactly. Like that's what I feel like get out represented, as in the message was so potent. Well, I think it's something to that. I agree because I saw it. I saw it three times. One time I saw it, we were like, yeah, we was up here. So I saw it once.

First time I saw it was at Detroit. It was in Detroit. We was on tour. It was at a theater in Detroit. I was about to say there's one theater in Detroit. It was the one that's out. Yeah, way out in the boot. We out there.

And I knew it was a black theater because all the ranch saw. was really wrong. I was like, I knew the racial demographics already. I'm like, all the damn rant, Charlie gone to say, yeah, there's some niggas in here.

So I saw it there, and then I saw it in Raleigh, me and my wife went to see it at, like, the theater, like in our neighborhood. It was like a lot of, mostly white. So the thing that was so telling,

and every time I saw it, at the end, when the police pull up, or what we think is the police, every black person in the theater was like, oh. Like that was the horror movie.

Like, yeah, that's the horror movie right there. She started playing the victim. Yeah, with a dead, a bleeding white girl and the police show up. Nigger, that's horror. Yo, he had a couple of those dog whistle moments. He even had a sister dog whistle moment. Remember, I said to you, Fontaine, you ain't catch it.

When the chick that, the black chick that was already hypnotized or whatever was in the room. The mama? Yeah, the grandma was in the room. And he was talking to his girlfriend. He was like, you know, that's a whole thing. Like, remember? I don't know if y'all remember. She was like, that's a thing with black women.

Like, she thing. Remember that part? She came in her own. She came and, right. Yeah, when she came mess with his phone, when she messed with his phone. And the girlfriend was like, why would she mess with your phone? He's like, what do you mean? Why was she saying?

Oh, okay. Yeah, okay, I get it. She didn't get it. I can actually top you on that fontate. I saw, look, first of all, it got to the point where I was obsessed with seeing the film, but more or less watching people. Watch the film. Right, right.

So I think, yeah, I've never seen a film more than I've seen Get Out in movie theaters. I think I've seen like 17, 18 times. We were in Palm Beach in Florida. It was like watching a whole other film because it's literally me and a room. It was a small theater, so it was about maybe 60 chairs. I'll say 45 of them were older white people. And it was just like the complete opposite. Like they were appalled and shocked.

Because by that point, the critical claimant of the film it became like must-see movie. I saw somebody walk out. Yeah, it was watching, it was like watching a whole other film when you watched it in Palm Beach. Without spoiling the movie, did those people in the theater clap at the end or frown? Oh, they didn't clap at all.

When they were, everybody clapped in Detroit. They, the scene where, uh, the very end when, uh, the rail, they're outside, yeah, right before, uh, rail gets out of his vehicle and, uh, Allison is. Yeah. In her position. Yeah. Right. Um, we already talked about the bleeding white girl earlier, so I mean.

Oh, okay. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't. Yeah. They're like, that's the first time I heard someone that expressed sadness for her. Well, for him.

Yeah. It was like, oh, like, because when I saw it in, I went to the magic theater. They was with him? In Harlem?

Oh, in Harlem. I wanted to go. I wanted to go there. Right. Yeah. Right. But in Palm Beach,

it was like, oh, God, she's about that, that sort of thing. I will also say, I will also. as much that this would probably make a lot of you very happy. Every time

I saw the movie, every black woman, even my wife included, was like don't trust that bitch, don't trust that bitch. Like they knew the girl was in on it from RIPP the whole time. We always do. We always. Don't you. Uh-uh. She in on it. These bitch is chopping off hands. They, every, all the black

women, they knew off RIP that she was a part of it. She was in on the hit. Well, I have to say that for the maybe the second year that movies and television have sort of top music. Yes. As far as entertainment is concerned. Yes. A thousand times, yes.

Are there any other significant movies? Movies? Three billboards. I fuck with three billboards. Yes. What's that? Three billboards. It's not a black movie.

Oh, I'm no. Okay. Frances McDormin. That shit is hard. And Sam Rockwell? Sam Rockwell. Sam Rockwell. Yeah.

I tell you what pissed me off this year was not. It wasn't Jay to Pink had a tweet storm a couple weeks ago about this about the Golden Globes Oh the Tupac too She had tweets storm about Tupac movie too Oh what Tiffany

So Tiffany got snubbed for a Golden Globe And girls' trip wasn't nominated for a Golden Globe And not only was it not nominated The Hollywood Forum Press Didn't even watch the fucking movie What? Why would they? They admitted it?

Why would they? Why would they? Well because it's a black movie But if it's the number one grossing comedy of the summer How did you know? Yeah, it made all the way over 100 million. It beat the shit out of rough night.

Did them black women? Dude. Well, yeah, but I get it. It's a black movie, and these are foreigners. And as somebody told me one time, Dr. King didn't cross the ocean. So it's... It's true.

It's true. All the marching he did, he never crossed the ocean, so it's still a lot of... So they just didn't fuck with girls' trip. They didn't even respect the numbers enough to go, all right, maybe this is an exception to our no-n-nigom-a-law. movie nomination rule.

That's crazy because I thought that Tiffany's story would have been the kind of story that they championed. Oh yeah, coming up through the foster care system. It would have been if she would have did a white movie, probably. It probably would have made a different. I mean, I've seen comedies. Yeah, the sassy black friend. If she would have been like the Jennifer Hudson insect, yeah,

insects in the city, like the magical Negro that helps the white. Kind of how three years ago when Leslie B. blew a block up on SNL because it was a white show, then maybe there was more white acceptance of Leslie than Tiffany because she blew a block up out the gate on a black production. Exactly. Which is fucked up, considering how good girls trip. But it was really black production.

Like, it's not, oh, just that one black writer. It's like, oh, y'all, y'all running this shit. Oh, that shit was blackety black. He was blacking and black. The Essence Super, or what is it, Essence Festival, was the backbone of the whole movie. Yeah. You can't even like a black chachella.

Yeah. Black Coachella, exactly. Speaking of the Golden Globe snubs, just want to shout out to Queen Sugar. Just want to say that too. Well, you know what I think of it? Everybody got snubbed. Literally, everyone.

This is the snubiest. Except for Issa who was the loudest on the carpet last year. Yo, that is crazy. Issa got nominated? As an actress or right? Don't ask me the category. I think it's actress. I want to say lead.

You got a lot of time in front of you. Yeah, I do. I just didn't want to do it fast enough. Yeah, but remember last year on the red carpet, they asked her. She was like I'm rooting for everybody black. She was like, yeah. She was like, who you're voting for?

Oh, voting for everybody black? Right. Yeah, Queen Sugar, man, I think the problem with Queen Sugar, not this early the show, but just, I think it's the fact that it's on own. I think that's why they keep shitting on it. Oh, that's true. Oprah don't have no nominations. You right. And that's a fucking quality show.

It could go scene with anything else on TV. Yeah, it's a gorgeous show, man. So it's not even, it's not even received Emmy Love or any recognition. Nothing. But I would argue that. And that's an Ava show. And I don't know anything about contracts in Hollywood and all. all that shit, but I would argue that that's part of the reason why

Own changed over from Tyler Perry to Will Packer to handle production of the most dramas over the next four to five years to basically change the entire types of show and the types of shows. She just sold the network, didn't she? No, she took a bigger cut of the network. That's what I was like Discovery or something. Discovery always owned it. They always owned it.

I thought, I think they bought a bigger share or something. I think they are the majority. It's just that Will Packer and Tyler Perry are two totally different types of producers and the type of shows that they'll green light are night and day. So that may help to that problem going forward. I agree. If there's other shows on the network that are more in line with what Queen Sugar is, because Queen Sugar for a long time was a fucking anomaly.

Yeah. It looked like nothing else. Yeah, because Greenleaf. I fucks with Greenleaf. Everybody can tell me about it. I haven't watched it. I have a, what do you call it? I started on iTunes.

Only because I came up in the Black Church, I can kind of like relate to a lot of this fucking messiness within the church. It's just, it's just, it's just, pastors and people still in money these are all black dramas you can find on own my mother watches the haves and the have-nots I can't do it that's on one she swears back on another own

that's the town joint that's a half-nots and then he had like a comedy it was a other joint I don't remember a pain was it house of pain more pain more pain but I know haves and haves nots is the one like my mother loves she loves half that ain't none of them touching this is us because it was our year god damn it I'm sorry

I've still yet to watch that show so on the music side when you all see somebody get snubbed. We got snubbed. I will say that with the exception of, what's this year's Pixar film? Coco. Coco, yeah.

Literally, with the song that we did for Detroit, shout out to Fontecalo also, including this. Awesome song, too, man. Yeah, with, and speaking of a, I should name the song, it ain't fair. For Detroit. Self-fulfilling prophecy, apparently. Exactly.

Listen now. Yeah, we've been listed when they give the projections of like, you know, songs that one of me. The song was moving that song. Yeah, but then when you looked at the nominations, like even the shoe in like common song

for... That didn't even get nominated. Yeah, that didn't get nominated. He had a song to do? It's, oh God. It was him and Andre Dey and Ryan Warren. It is so no seasoning. Common and Diane Warren got a song together.

It's like if you don't stand for something, you got to stand for it all. possible if 50s film. The guy that wrote Heidi Ho is working with Diane Wolling now? Yeah, man. It was a long road. It was a long road. Yeah.

So, no, but I mean, he still got, it got, his song got nominated for Grammy. An N-A-CP award. Never heard. Like, everything. I never heard. I've yet to hear it. What movie was it in? Just right.

Oh, it was it? Marshall. I didn't even know the movie came out. It came out. It came out. It came out. It's like, they didn't. Let's get this shit out for Black Panther come out.

I think I ignored it because Chadwick Bozeman was in it. And just have him in everybody. That was his third historical black role. But Sterling Brown was in that movie as well. And he was really good. Sterling Kay Brownschild. Nothing against Chadwick Boseman, talented actor. I just don't think he needs to play every historical black person.

That was the one yet. Now, I did think that him playing Thurgood was wrong. That was some Zoe's, or what was it? Zoe said I'm playing Nina Simone. Don't even say it. Don't even say it. Don't even say it. Don't even do it.

I bought him as James Brown. I bought him as Jackie Robinson. No, he killed those. He killed both of those. I buy him as a mythical black leader, too. I'll buy him as black panel. Okay, so. It's got to spread the love.

I'm with you on that. For the problem. You know, because you're going to ask. Oh, for music or do we get mad if we get snub? Do you get mad? And then do you just go fuck awards and just do the work? I don't go full cue tip. Oh.

It's like a thing now. Never let a statue tell me. Nice I am. Ooh. Well, you know, the black Twitter was clapping back of that instantly. So it's... Nika, you're just jealous. No, no, no, no.

I just meant, you know, I knew that someone was going to bring up the tribe line. I never need a statute to tell me. But, I mean, I get tips point. What we're talking about is tips rant. You're trying to get tip back on the show, too. I got a shut up. Oh, God. We're not slandering him.

I mean, basically, you are. Speak your truth, Bill. I see where Tip was going because this is the last tribe moment. It would have been a nice book ending if they least got nominated, like as a moment for five. And I thought they deserve the nomination. We just have a real Grammy moment though, for real. Like this, okay, just because the organization, first of all,

I'm curious as if Q-Tib is a voting member. But this is the thing, this is. There's so many hip-hop artists that aren't voting members. Like, people forget that this is like a whole voting situation. So it's like, don't be mad. I guess he should be mad at all the other rappers and emcees. But the thing with the Grammys, I mean, I guess like any other war, it's not a meritocracy. It's a campaign.

Yes. You got to. But you also have to be a voting member and a pain. But, yeah, okay, you have a point. This is the year. This year is the sea change because now we're voting online. And that's why. That to me, that to me solidifies that back before this year.

and in conversations with our good friend James Harris III I kind of figured that really the Grammys are just 20 people in a room really deciding that and he's got the most, you know, but not quite trusting the situation. I have to say that this is the official year that the actual voting body members got a say in what is, which can be a dangerous thing because let's say a legacy. Sponsored by Rock Nation.

Right. Because the thing is, because the thing is, if there's any time for a legacy group, like the Roots, to pull a Jethro Tull, like this is our time to do it, where it's like, oh, yeah, I like those guys. You know, 20 years and, like, us beating.

I'm just, I'm giving you a... You're Denzel. You're talking about you the Denzel thing. You guys are going to beat Cardi B. Yeah, like, you know, pity votes, that sort of thing. Training day and then. Now, under the old system, I definitely thought that, oh, now's our time to cake off of, you know, being the familiar old name and amongst that sort of thing.

But now that this new voting system of us actually voting online, yeah, it's, I predict this is going to be a problem because you're really going to see the barometer of where the voting members are. So Cardi B going to win her a Grammy this year. Probably. It could happen. It would happen. Yeah. The value of a Grammy's just going to plummet. I mean.

But aren't we cheering for a Cardi B? I am, man. Yeah. Cardi B is a meme to me. I mean, I don't know what to do about Cardi. I mean, it wasn't hit record. I mean. But if you're judging it on full body of work and album and as a person and all of that,

but just that record? I was in the song of the year. That record is a jam. It's undenable. It's undenobled. I was in a sunken place with it. Yeah. Have you heard it on loudspeakers?

I've heard, no, I haven't heard it in a car once. And that's the only time I've ever heard the song. I like you, I was proud to not have known a bodak yellow. I was good with it. And then one day, like again, the whole slithering Gryffindor. You just have to remember, I don't fuck with hip-hop at all anymore. No, I get it. I'm borderline with you.

And I'm still trying to make a living off of something I don't fuck with it. I'm just saying, That ain't the realest shit of. I'm saying backstage in the Gryffindoor dressing room of the Roots show. I've never seen Harry Potter either, by the way. The sober. But I get the reference. Neither of I have.

I've never seen it either. But the reference. Yeah. And Tereeks. And the Griffin Doork room, which is my room. I got you. It was quiet as hell. But in the Slithering Room, it was Turnt City.

And that song became infectious. I couldn't avoid it. No, the joint is a jam. It's a record. And the thing is, but like, when. I mean, as always happens. What does she do next? I don't know.

Some good cameos. She's on a camera. I like her Migos cameo. Yeah, it's a new song she's on his banging count. Oh, my God. We're becoming those people. We need someone young to help us. I mean, I've been that nigga about 10 years.

I'm looking at my, look at my notes. But the new joint. What are young people doing, Roy? But is that for us. No, it's not. It's not. It's not. Migos is more for me than, like.

I enjoy me. My gym music. That was my gym music. I enjoy music. I love them niggas. As a, I was on the bubble about all that trap rap shit and then I tried to write a fucking parody song and realize how hard it was.

10, 15 years of radio, I ain't never had no problem putting together the fuck, oh, I take that line and make that funny and take that. It's easy to build a parody song mirroring the fucking structure. You cannot mirror that shit. You cannot. Like, just, even just writing a regular verse match, I said, I can't do it.

Well, I think it's hard to parody because the shit kind of parodies itself. You're not on the prescription drugs. Yeah, I need to do some cop syrup to slow the world down. He needs an Adderall, yeah. Because the new joint is them, the Gucci gang joint. That shit make Bodegia yellow sound like, got damn. Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang, Gucci gang.

The what? Gucci gang, Gucci gang. By little, that little Pete, no, he the one to die. Little Pete died. That's a little somebody. It's a white boy. It's called Gucci Gang. Oh, yeah, just.

A little Guzyberg. No, it ain't a little Uzziberg. It's a white dude. A little Troy. No, it ain't Gigi. Easy. Little pump. Little pump.

Yeah, I got Pump. You don't sound so old. No, I mean, it's a lot of others. I'm old. What's the name of that young boy? That one of the one. Yeah, I got Pump and Pete confused. Pete Jr.

Pete died. Little Pete died. Peep died. Pump is, pump is Gucci Gang, Gucci Gang. Right. I've hooked with Gucci Gang. You never heard of Gucci Gang? Junior, come in here and tell us that one that's on there on the Sprite.

Ladies' gentlemen. Pete, I think you're going to get. Guilla. One. This is the first time that Boss Bill's listening to Goodie Day. This shit made both of y'all sound like Rock Kim. Can we just start playing trap songs of the year?

Because I got requests. This is a real song. This is a real song. Bill took off his headphones. Oh, yeah. Hey, Bill, put your headphones on. You got to hear this, though. Y'all ain't going to slowly my ears.

I can't buy me in a way to rain. What? I never heard I knew he was going to do that. The funniest thing about this song, though, is on Spotify. It has a behind the lyrics that, like, you can do on G. Oh, yes, really? If there ever was a fucking song that didn't need that. It was a nigga saying Gucci Gain 17 times.

Can I hear mask off now? No. We're not taking... Mask off fucking mask off. Because I don't use you like Future. Future. And you net and said Adderall. Merrill Street?

What? Perkisset. Perkisset. Percocet. I guess a chip Don't chase no chit Don't chase no chit Yeah

I get your point Bill Washed and proud Washed and proud I feel Bill's avoidance of trap culture Is that Similar to nutrition All right

If you're trying to lose weight If you're trying to Live a better way of life Are you going to eat 100 Now laders in the morning Right yeah I'm just not interested in this shit

It doesn't mean anything to me Let him translate for you Bill Bill? He's translating your mind. No, I know it translates, but you... It's junk food. It's acoustic junk food that you partake in from time to time. And it gives me diarrhea. So I don't eat the shit. Don't over and those.

You can't over and go. I get it. The problem, though, to that perspective, is fair because of how corporations have influenced radio playlist. And I ain't got to explain that to anybody in the wrong. And how radio stations give you the same 50 songs every month, then they have their corporate

meeting, and then they add in 10 more. Then they make sure they're the dumbest songs in the world. Of course. Because they also control the touring. They also control the venues. And we know everybody's going to show up to see the dumb song. Dumb song sells more tickets than woke song. Because they think you're all idiots.

Yeah. Goody gang, goody game. We are. What about Tyler the Creator? Can we just have a moment? Because I thought that that... His record was dope. Am I alone?

No, no. It's all. It sounds like suicidal for L. Suicidal Ferell. I actually thought it was a happier... I mean, happy for him. I thought it was probably the happiest... I mean, yeah, for Tyler, yeah, it's pretty damn happy.

Yeah, but for everybody else, it's suicidal for real. No, I haven't heard any, I haven't heard anything at that camp since Earl Sweat Shirt's album. And I think that's two years ago. Well, here's the thing. This album, you know, I was expecting the normal Tyler, I'll crush your testicles in my teeth and that sort of thing. And it wasn't that. It was like.

Do it again? Give me another boy, Tyler. I'll crush your testicles with my teeth. Nicked women with brillo pads. I scrub them in tuna ass. Yes, that's Tyler. And he made a very musical, light-sounding record, which shocked the shit out of me.

No, this is the record that I think he'll get the old heads with. You're like, cast, R.A., like, this is the record. And to be honest, it's funny because when we interview Roy Ayers, it actually ended up being what Roy Ayer said he was. because Roy Harris did not know Tyler DeCreatter's name. He knew that I worked with this young dude and he is so talented and I know y'all and he called him a piano play piano. He said, yeah,

he played a piano. He played the piano. So we're thinking like, okay, Robert Glassford. No, no, no, no. He played the piano. We just going through every jazz dude. He's like, nah, nah, nah, no. So we're like, okay, well, we'll just move on. So we know you work with Tyler Creator. Yeah, that's him. What?

Of all the things of all the things that described, Tiley Creator I don't think piano player would be the first thing of it. His show on Viceland is very interesting. Oh, that is. Yeah, it is. Is that what Ange worked on? No. That was the jellies. The one on Viceland's like a... Wait, how many

shows is Tyler have? I think just two. But it's like a... It's almost like a... He's just traveling the world. I don't even want to call it Bourdain because it's not fair to make that comparison, but he's experiencing something with somebody

from his camp and this person's just explained. I was like other dudes show too then. He went to like a toy shop and learn how to make toys. He learned how to make waffles. He learned how to get syrup. Like it was a whole episode of him just in the fucking forest in Canada, tapping maple trees. One, he designs a go-kart and they build it for him.

And then there's one where, what was the one I just saw the other day? Oh, he learns how to do stop motion animation. It's shit that you shouldn't do a fuck about. But he asks interesting questions that make you curious about it as well. So you're experiencing something through his brain. Yeah, it's a good show. It is a good show. 2018 Quest Love Supreme

Tyler the Creator. Definitely. Yeah. Okay, so another notable record. Now, I have my theory on it. What were our thoughts on 4-444-4? Oh, man.

Me first, me first, me first, me first. Hit it. Who mixed that album? Holy shit, that sounds horrible. Yeah. Balsfield. You know what? You know what, though?

I have to say that, Never changed. I know that, okay. I'm not saying my theory, but I definitely know that, especially based on smile, my theory is that maybe they were late comers to donuts. And, yeah, I know. Let's call it munchkins. They were late comers to it and that they were trying to give you that vibe.

No, it just sounded unfit. Because they recorded it in some of the best. studio. Yeah, it sounded like It sounded like... Really? This is Vaughn, this is no diss to you, bro. It sounded like an old Von P album. Wow. Yeah, I thought it was his best album in a long time. Okay, we're going to talk content now. But here's the thing...

Yeah, I know you're ready. I know, you're ready. I personally... I'm going on record with this. Believe... I don't believe Lemonade nor 4444. You know what? I'm not opposed to that conspiracy. I think they know we want blood and we'll take it. They're going to sell us blood.

Gotcha. But what? I can see that. I guess because my question is how, if that really did happen, if either one of them was in, was cheating on each other, how do you keep that shit of secret? Yeah. How does that not leak out?

I would have to kill a motherfucker. I mean, like, I mean, they do you trust someone to not say. You saw the video Solange in the elevator beating somebody's in. Right, right, right. Yeah, right, right. And now that knowing Salange, I think that shit was real. That was real.

That was real. That was real. No, she's fighting a motherfucker. There's been talk on what happened to bring that on. Right. Which was real. But I'm just saying that if you're the most famous, I mean, I got D-list celebrity me can't make motherfuckers key.

secrets. You're not a billionaire though. Yeah, but even then, it's like... Harvey Weinstein. Harvey Weinstein kept his shit. But that was a whole other level. This nigga was hiring massage agents and shit to do it. Like, that nigga was on some day of the jackal shit.

Yeah, I just don't think in the age of selfie culture and just a neat. Snap and chat. Yeah. Advertise. I know your secrets. Yeah, there's five people that know where the bodies are buried in my life. Jay and Beyonce have never really been very

public people to begin with. So why would that should be public to begin with? Okay. We didn't even know they were officially married until like after the... Here's the thing though. Okay. I'm writing a book about you, by the way.

When... Okay. So in... I wouldn't deal with that. 2006. All right. February. So in 2006.

You're not going to like it. What I write. Will you shut the fuck my speech? Okay. So in 2006, I had the pleasure of visiting Woolsmith's castle, right? And a question I asked him was, I was like, yo, because, again, it was the most overwhelming experience I ever had in someone's house. Like, he has a stadium inside the house. When he wants to play basketball, there's like a replica of the form. him there and all that stuff.

So it's basically like, at one point I was just like, you know, with all these people in your property, like what is alone? Like, can you just walk around the house naked if you want to not being? He's like, well, you're never alone. You just get used to it. I said, so what's being alone? Like, what's like no one's home?

And he's like, oh, no one's home? He's like, that's about 18 people. God damn. So he's never just on his own. Right. I can't imagine. I can't imagine that. NDAs though, right?

I mean, I know people that have signed NDAs that still yet their mouth because they can't hold it in on, you know, whatever, yeah. I know people in his organization and Yays organization and MAD celebrities

that have signed crazy NDAs. Yeah, but at a certain point when you're around people, and I mean, not for nothing, but I'm friends with his sisters and stuff. It's like you respect them in a way where you don't do that. Like they keep, I mean, I don't know, I feel like they keep people around.

that you kind of respect the situation. I don't know the real shit, but I know stuff that I maybe should not know. Me too, and I would never, because you just respect the situation. But my thing is that if, you know, the line about the Menasia Tijuana and stuff, I'm just like,

how are you going to pull that off? Like, again, okay. So in looking at those old purple rain notes, oh shit, and looking at the purple rain notes, Prince finds Brown Mark for being late the bus call. Like there's a thing where some memos like,

whatever, $25 for being three minutes. Like Brown Mark was like four minutes late to lobby call. And kind of the thought behind it was like, because Prince was such at a high level of celebrity that he can't even go in the hotel lobby like he used to during the 1999 tour and, you know, play girl a while. Watch it. Brown Mark was getting all the girls.

Brown Mark was basically caking up the Purple Rain Tour because he, his level celebrity wasn't so that he couldn't go. It wasn't a prison. Right, exactly. So I can't imagine, like, how do you broker that deal? Like, yeah, yeah, who's the? Super mega pimps. Who's the whole runner for Jay-Z?

There's got to, come on, I mean, here, you must know this. There's got to be like some super millionaire pimpaation, whole, like. I won't say. his name here. See you know, boy. But I've heard stories of a famous white actor, Playboy, who

if he sees somebody in the club, do he want to fuck, he's in the goon over. Yes, uh, he would like to fuck. Are you okay with fucking? Leonardo DiCaprio. I will not say this name. Hey, I will be to confirm

R.99. Yo And so they say Yo you just come up to the room And just The bodyguard or whoever just brings you in Strip down he will be in in a second And then he just walks in

We fuck and then he leaves And you stay there and put your clothes on You get your phone back And then you get the good Oh no paperwork though No no paper But in this age it's like Who can keep their mouth silent on

On that shit On Twitter A lot of people who think that there might be another meeting or the possibility of getting something more, it's potential to get more. But the moment you realized that you was just a hotel fuck while my bodyguard watched you get your back beat out. Then the only thing left you got to profit from is the story.

That's true. So then you're more likely to go and fucking ring your mouth. Yeah. But in my mind, they get a couple dollars in those, you know, Jay Beyonce situations. It's like, that's prostitution. I don't know. I mean.

I just, I don't believe that someone. I don't know if it's called prostitution when you're that level. I just don't believe, I can't believe that someone is that silent to not speak on the situation. You don't think Becky and the blonde, Becky with the blonde hair would have been that quiet. It would be the biggest coup ever though. I mean, he's in time. If the white girl came out and was like, I'm Becky. If this is all alive.

I don't believe it's not. This would be the biggest coup ever. I feel. I mean, maybe there are Luminati connections. They got had her to eliminate. I mean, I've seen, yeah. I thought of that, too. But then, too, I mean, you got, I mean, and you even said this before Boss Bill,

if it was a black girl that he cheated on, the balls on that black woman to essentially make herself the most hated woman in America. Like, you slept with Beyonce's husband. You don't do that. How many women have you heard say, I slept with Denzel? Even though we all know. But I haven't heard nobody. I haven't heard me.

Because they're not trying to fuck with Pauletta. I mean, just, you know, the one asked the one that we think, you know, I'm reading. numbers. I, you know, I just, I'm like, it's not, it's not as in public right now.

But the point is nobody want to piss off Pauletta and nobody want to be that one that said that messed up the situation. He's like, they,

from Perseller. Oh. I haven't, I personally haven't heard that, but I mean, I'm not. It's just the one's a non-story, but I'm saying outside that,

you know that that man then done his business. I would believe, it was the other, well, go ahead. I would believe. leave these conspiracy. First of all, let me just say, I love a good conspiracy theory,

and this is the first time I've heard the one that Lemonade and 4-44 are insincerity. Theater. Wait, wait, wait. For the record, I don't want nobody from the Illuminati or the Bay of Hive. They should be listening trying to kill me. Yeah, yeah, they're not even listening to Pandora anyway.

You're going to believe that. They're on title because the only place where Lemonade is. I'm just... How about that? Lemonade, I'll write out. Wait, really? Yeah, it is, yeah. Lemonade ain't on that, no. Get your money.

Get your money. I'll give you lemonade as a bunch of songwriters creating a facade. But I feel like Jay on Triple Four would be a little more truthful to his life and feelings. Maybe that's song about his mom is true. I think he's a smart-ass motherfucker. He shot his brother and did a song about it. Don't you want to believe? Where's that brother is?

Come on, Obama's brothers running around with Twitter accounts. True, true. Going off the chain. How come I ain't heard from Jay's brother yet? Because Jay paid him off? Is he still alive? Is he still alive? Did he kill his brother?

In the song, he survived. He's yeah, he survived. I'm just saying, did he die from something? I was afraid to ask. I don't know. But the thing about the Jay's brother thing, jazz mentioned that in like another interview or song or something where he said that after he shot his brother,

he was the first one he came to, the Jay came to jazz, like, you know, help me out. I just feel like we don't know this man. So I think that may be true. I think him shooting brother. think that happened. I always look at music as the purest form. Jay's album, to me, is the most

emotionally naked he's ever been, but it ain't nothing I've been running and dying to go see him perform live. I'm not dying to watch him walk back and forth on stage for an hour to that. No. I wish he would have presented it. I was laughing at what he said.

He's very... It's true. No, I'll say he's not a concert album, either. It's not a concert record. All these white folks are finding out, too. I don't think it's also not the crowd. There's not them tickets for $6. Yeah, it's like, ooh.

$6? Yeah, they were overcharging. They were overcharging. They were overcharging for the floor seats. Right. And hoping that they would make up for the cheap seats everywhere else. Wow. Wait, six bucks?

When's the last time a concert ticket has been six bucks? A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clever Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media.

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A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target.

He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest.

The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galko, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what we're really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar, this is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice Podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12 and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Speaking of concerts at 2017, can y'all confirm or deny this that the pictures on social media of Janet and stuff were more exciting than the actual performance in itself? No, the show was good. I enjoyed the shit out of that show. Well, I know you have to, damn.

Wait, you said she moved slow? I thought it didn't cry. You asked, was she moving slower than normal? Somebody said, I heard that she was. You're friends with some haters. So like, and I'm king of hands. I said, you're trying to tell me that 50, year old Janet is not

to the level of 23 year old Jackson. Post baby. That's what you're saying. That's what you're saying. Are you imposing some unrealistic standards on her? I just had questions. I didn't.

No, I've heard of it. I've heard this tour was good. The tour before that when she was all like married up and lost. Yeah, the one before she stopped grabbing dicks. That. That's the Melvin, bro. She's not doing it on this one either.

Why must you grab the dicks when you're on these sticks? You are my wife. I do not want you grab any more dicks. Okay, I won't grab dicks. Oh, my God. But that's what I do. I grab dicks. No, nothing anymore.

It's not like Boris and Natasha. Say, Janet, going to be with Jermaine in 2018? I enjoyed who? They said, Janet, getting back with your main in 2018. I was just giving you a little sum of that. Getting back with your main. Dupree, Dupree. Oh.

Oh, how about going to be? Sliffrey ride. No, you see how I had to jump into it with that. I thought she was going to tour with a Jermaine Jackson. I was like, huh. He's tours well, though. He still does his thing. He still does his thing, Jermaine Jackson.

I'm going to stop. Hey, we also forgot to mention, I, she was a guest on the show today. Cizzer's album. Yeah. Control. Yeah. How we feel about side chick diaries. She's

Gladly carrying on I had it on my iPhone I had it on my phone when I went over to Europe this fall And every time One of the songs came on I was into it Until she started singing

And then I hit the skip button Damn, you hard on a nigga I like that song she did on the Tonight Show What's it called? What was it called? I don't know It has a moment It has some moments that I did like

Love galore the drawing with Travis Scott. That's like the drawing. That's a, hello. R&B, I have to be like alone to absorb. Like, I can't. It has to be from like before 1990. So there's no R&B this year.

I like my record. I like, my R&B record this year. You don't even fuck with the all white suit. Home again. Home again. It had a couple cuts, but yeah, you're right. That didn't Jam and Lewis had one. What was the start of the story bite on Home Again?

Didn't Jorlavert produced that cut? How do you like your love? Yeah. Oh, yeah. They took like half a note off a star of the story so they went get nab by Rod Temperton. But that was my joint. Yeah, that was the only one.

I think Gerald Lavert wrote that for him. Edwin, Tony Nicholas. Wait, so go ahead. How do you know that, motherfucker? Because the names were always together. Yeah, it hit Gerald. And the thing was, for me, I'm like, how a nigga named Edwin got a nickname named Tony?

Like that's the other. Yeah, Edwin Tony. Tony. That shit don't make no goddamn sense. All right, you say. My R.B. My joint was fucking my home girl Bosco, Brittany Bosco. She put out an EP's just called B.

And that shit is fucking dope. It's dope. And also Gwen as well. I really fought with her safe travel. I've been on her shit for a while. But yeah, Bosco. Who did I go crazy over this year? Maggie, that shit?

No. Maggie Rogers. That's what I heard. No. That was a couple years ago. My student? No. Yes.

Maggie, I love you. Thank you. Maggie Rosses was one of my students at NYU. No, she's from Ohio. Oh, I know what you're talking about, but I can't remember. The gospel chick, Crystal. You had her on Instagram, you posted her shit on Instagram. Yeah, I can't remember her name.

It must not have been that great. No, it was just, we know that I'm having brain, I always have brain for our moment. I want to say Crystal. She's like the gospel chick, like with the real thick harmonies and the run and I can't Why y'all doing that? I'm gonna just big up.

I remember seeing a whole bunch of people tweeting about or posting about it. You didn't beat the album? I didn't because I had a whole bunch I had this shit to do. I peeped it. Why y'all were gonna, I'm gonna just say it was like a week when everybody was

posting about her and then nothing. Hello Gold Link. You killed it. Thank you for saving DC this year. Gold Link. Uh-uh. Come on, Bill. Who is a damn?

Yeah, so, Bill. Now, wait, hold on. I had high expectations for Gold Link's album because I like the mixtape that he had out before. This shit was great. But then I just found out that I like the production. Because. But I think that's true for all.

I mean, that seems to be the case. Like when people say they're tired of hip-pop, I don't think they're tired of hip-pop. They're just tired of rappers. Yeah. If I never heard another rapper, rap again, I would be too soon. I'm with you. I say that as a rapper.

I'll be sick of niggas rap. But crew is a jam. I mean, we don't have a lot in D.C. We got him and, you know, Waleigh and Marvin Gay. That's it. So wait. So wait. Hold on. Black people don't like rap music anymore.

No, no, no, black people like rap music. Like, Monti is black people. Old black people. This is a Questlove, Supreme Exclusive. Yes. Old black rappers don't like rappers? Do not like rappers. Oh, black rappers don't like rappers.

Like, I like rap, but then if it's, it's got to be a little bit off the beating path. Yeah. Like, it's got to be something that's a little harder to find. You know, someone that you stumble upon. You know, like, there was a minute for like a, a. decade where the only way I got put on the new rap that wasn't caught up in the radio corporate bullshit was video games. Video games introduced me to a shit ton of new music across all genres.

Like if you play Madden or FIFA, it's impossible to not discover new media. I was listening to K-pop fucking round with FIFA. I'm about saying FIFA must have some shit. Yo, they fucking group love out of fucking L.A. This fucking group epic high. Half they shit is in Korean And I'd fucking download the shit I can't speak Korean

But the hooks are in English But the fucking verses are in Korean I'm like cool And then I just pulled the shit up online Like now what the fuck was he rapping about Let me read about it And it's all the same Like in terms of like

Just lyrically They're talking about the same fucking aspirations to be better And you don't buy it as much Because you're Korean I don't think he came from the gutter The same as Every fucking black rapper

but it's coming to me I actually I like Sid's album Yeah me too Mine was insecurity That was my song Oh my god Why am I looking at Bill

Yeah stop looking at Bill Because you said it's so quiet Say it louder You were just No I wasn't I was trying to debate If it came out in 2016 In 2017

That was 17 But then Bill's sipping a lot of tea right now So Insecurities was my jam on that record That shit was dope I like the backgrounds On that joint For what it is it's cool

But I still think Jack Davy should be where she is. Oh, hey, Brianna. Could have been a contender. Has being so close to music for so long changed? Yes. How you even just absorb a song. Yeah.

We ruined our palate. It's like I ate too much good food for too long. Well, in some good ways and some bad ways. I mean, I guess it's in the same way. Like, if you're seeing a comic and, like, you see him killing it, you can appreciate him killing it, but on a deeper level, you see him. analyzing me. Exactly. You analyze it. So for me, when I hear a great record, I still, I'm like, damn, this is dope. Just, you know, just instinctively, I feel it. But then I'm listening like, damn, how did they mix that vocal. Damn, listen to how they did this. So it gives you a great appreciation of it. But on the other side of it, when you hit some bullshit, for me, it does the same thing. You know, you can see the tricks. You know what I mean? Like, you can see how they fucking around. Here's an example. So, all right, who's millennial of, okay, let's take Playboy Cardi.

Okay. Now, no clue. No clue that is. I know who he is. I can't name the song. Like, Magnolia was like the reaction I get when I play Playboy Card is Magnolia.

I'll put in context. 25 years ago, it was like when you heard the first four seconds of like J. Roo's Come Clean. Okay, you know you got to play that. Play that, please. Yeah. Just for, so we.

Okay. But it's just like. Then play J. cleaning my palate. You all the buck, but even then, it's like, for me, it's like, again, it's the whole effective versus good.

I played it so many times, and I guess the elation that I get from when I play the join. You mean, have I been, what do you call it, Stockholm syndrome? Brainwashed. Brainwashed, man. Mad, come.

What? Pierre, you want to come out here? This My thing is like I can't tell us apart from Like 15 other songs All that shit sounds insane This ain't called milly rock No this is not milly rock

Magnolia You got rap with your mouth open Oh No that is my first time ever hearing That's all I was hoping for my last time too No I think it's like I can't tell it apart From 15 other songs

It sounds just like it Yeah, no, I did. So have we become our parents? Yes. Y'all have. It sounds that way. And what? But the thing is, all right, did our parents have a point when, probably?

Okay, we need to busts. All right. So when. Two live crew? No, no, no, no. No, because my palate was way better than that. All right. When the night I heard, the day that I brought, Nason of Millions, by public.

to me and was blasting 9-11 bass heads or my stereo system in my room my dad was like this is noise this is garbage but you can understand why you am I wrong for thinking that it was a work of art no but my dad thought it was noise but then again

the millennial is after me also think it's bullshit so only to me the difference between the two generations is that there aren't when you listen to public enemy acoustically there weren't 12 other enemy of the public

Tennessee enemy there were some biters liberal outlaws they were the rhythm radicals y'all remember the rhythm radicals the rhythm radicals

they were from Philly they were from Philly they were like public enemy biters but no I think and they would get called it the fact that you just called them a biter proves my point

you get called out for how dare you even try to sound similar now that's rewarded no because in our era of hip hop it was my style is better than yours now the MO is oh I can do your style too

there's no more there is nothing there originality is not really rewarded it's like oh I can do this I can do that so who's thought is that more A&Rs or the it's the radio stations because they won't play anything else they don't want to think too hard I'm shocked okay

I didn't think except for Pandora they're great no I agree with them I used to get into it my TV and the thing too like with the biters back then I mean with somebody like public enemy I mean, that shit requires skill to bite that. You know what I mean? Yeah.

It does not require skill. I mean, if I want to make Gucci Gang or whatever. I mean, and those records are what they are, but that's a very easily replicated formula. They're five-minute beats, and the people that make them are proud of the fact that they're five-minute beats. Yeah. Like, yeah, I made that beat in five minutes.

All right, well, let's go only the upper echelon of music. Any of you guys fuck with Kamasi, Washington, The three-hour jazz album that nobody has time for? Because Russ mixed a 40-minute. Yeah, you just put out another one. Oh, there's a new one? Yeah, it's a new one. I listen to some of it.

Harmony of difference is something? Harmony of difference, yeah, yeah. I listen to some of it. It's good. I fuck with it. I really like the epic, though, the three-hour joint. I think I maybe made it through it. Damn, Steve, you let somebody beat you.

Steve made a five-hour jazz record. Six hours. It's not jazz. Don't give me a copy of that. What I've gained in, like, sitting in with you all, though, it's so interesting how if you're in a different prism of entertainment, like how for Bill, like, music is too noisy, so you go to TV

to escape. I feel like TV is too noisy so I try to go to music. I thought TV was the best it ever is. Because it's so many options. Is that what you mean? Like, it's so many, did you watch this? Did you watch this? Did you see this? Did you see that? Already half of this shit, I got to watch just on some research. So I'm already losing half of my attention span. There's less time allowed to even watch the shit that I was. want to enjoy, discover.

And now you gotta binge it. You can't just catch up on a one week. You got the whole goddegg on series. Which is the only advantage because then when I do get a moment, I want to see, fuck it, give me all the punisher. Let me watch all that. I'm just starting to binge the Punisher. That's funny.

I'm just on, I'm in that mind, Hunter. I haven't checked Punisher yet. I'm waiting on Black Mirror. They got me with that shit. I thought it started. Not the second season of the last season. The last one.

The one from the last season is San Juan Apparel. That one is a good. That shit is dope. Black Mirror. fuck me up because all that shit could kind of happen. Oh, all of it. All of it. It's like, it's too close. Like, the one

where they were rating people, that's actually about to happen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking Bitcoin. Mr. Robot. Mr. Robot. Sorry, I was just. Mr. Robot. Mr. Robot. I still got to get on it, man. Yeah. You did.

Awesome. When you did your post on faith, then I got lost into it. Yeah. It's good. I enjoy Mr. Rob. Rob. But you're saying that as a person on television, you don't see how awesome television is now?

I see awesome television, but there is so much awesome television that I can't get to it all that I, some shows, I'm just straight up like, you know what, fuck it, I get a perfect example. I love Arrow. I ain't no real superhero procedural-ass dude. I think most superhero procedurals is just, you just fucking cash in a check. And you're going to stream, but see, that's cable. I'm talking that.

This is CW. Yes, you're right. Arrow is CW. I fucked around and missed a season and blinked and Arrow is now six seasons in. And the flash spun off of the Arrow and then Legends of the... We're talking literally 80 episodes of fucking television across all titles. And I just, I can't fucking fuck. So I'm done with Arrow.

I'm done with Arrow. So is there going to be like a bubble that's going to burst with television? Because there is a lot. There's a lot. Back of the day, like, if you missed one episode of Dallas, the Dynasty, like it wasn't the end of your world. Are you saying now that we have to be super completest and watch every episode of... Well, because a lot of...

Well, back in the day, the stories, storylines weren't always continuous, especially with like sitcoms and shit. Sometimes weren't always continuous, and that was the way we watched TV was different. It wasn't an option. You had to wait week to week. Yeah, now you don't... And now it's funny because I'm like, meanwhile, on Netflix,

you got to watch Luke Cage, then you want to watch Jessica Jones, then you want to watch the defenders, then you got to watch the Punisher. They're like... Yeah, and then you just go fucking. I'm on the bed. Like you just, I'm just sit here and fucking. Like, I think there's three shows that I watch religiously. And then the rest of them is I'll just catch it if I catch it. What are the other two?

God. Well, Broad City just ended. What is it? What was the other one? Mr. Robot Broad City. You watch? Orange's New Black? I watched it. I stopped after the second season. I'm actually still watching Scandal. But that's on that's on the way it's from there. Everybody needs. It needs a good network drama. I'm watching because I just want to see how it ends.

And this is the last season. Evil Olivia, I don't know if I like this shit. I don't know if I like it either, but I've stuck with it this long. I just got to see it through it. It might be the Jump the Shark season. No, the Jumps of Shark season was seasons ago. Like, Fonzie's long than over that shark. I'm amazed that they find new ways to make Stevie Wonder's song still new.

It's scandal. I get mad. I love it. Look, I'm not trying to have Shonda send the Hove Illuminati after them. But I, you know, man, the music clearance person is so... For that and how to get away with... I'd stop how I'll get away with murder. I didn't finish...

It was too... I mean, I watch... I'm not lying to you. I watch like 40 shows. I don't know how. You know, people ask like, how do you have 19 jobs? I'm amazed that I'm actually keeping up actively with 40 television shows. Yeah, I don't know how you do that.

I go to bed at four in the morning. Just traveling and just, you know, I find times to. But, yeah, yeah, for some reason, I know that how to get away with murder is quality TV, but it's just a little. Wait, who said that? No, because I know a lot of people that are, they're into the Shonda world that aren't really into how to get away with murder. They whack. I never got into it. Excuse me, Shonda Lane.

It's good. There's some payoff there, but I. I just think I don't have... I don't have enough time for... I traded in murder for Queen Sugar and Green Leaf. Greenleaf, yeah. Queen Sugar, I watched Queen Sugar. I did some trade-ins.

I watched Queen Sugar regular. I had to give up because I need the numbers. I couldn't get into it. But see, to that point... You should go to Queen Sugar. Like, give it five episodes. I think I got three episodes in and then I stop. Give it five.

It's a slow bill. You don't like the season? No, no, I like it. But I don't know if you. Ooh, okay. It ain't as good as the wire. The wire, the thing with the wire, it took me like 10 years to watch the wire. You ever watch the wire?

I've watched The Wire with someone who's watching it for the first time, and I have to literally go, trust me, stick with season one. Oh, season two is the hardest thing for anybody. Is that the Europeans and the shipping yard? Yeah, that's the worst. But that's the most important seat because it shows up season five. Yeah, that's how to dope get in the city. It's true.

So you meet the Greek and the whole lot. It's true. But it's certain shows. I like watching, even though I know it's junk food. and I can see the tricks from a mile away the same with the fucking audio shit for me my shit is Chicago Fire and lethal weapon

It is You know what? I watched half of the first season It was good I don't know why I didn't finish It's the most fun basic Cop shoot them up Catch the Criminal

Who we almost died Good episode It's funny It's fucking touching And that's what Damon That's what Damon And yeah And I can't even think

A New Riggs name But he's a fucking great actor. He's from Alabama, too. Does Damon and yell, Riggs's name? Like, Riggs! He don't hit it with that Danny Glover base, though. He ain't Danny Glover with it. But it honors the movie, and

it's it ain't, it ain't going to never get nominated for an Emmy for writing, but it is a fun, solid show. It'll be on 10 fucking years as long as they want to do it. I didn't even know it was still on. It's like so many shows come out. I didn't know anything. I stopped watching Empire.

Like, Empire. Oh, dog. I I left after the Prince episode. Here's the thing. I left after the first episode. I love your family, but I left after the first episode. But Empire is one of those shows where if you don't, because it's a 20 episode

drama and it's not procedural. So if you miss three episodes. Yeah, you're fucked. It's who is this nigga? And where are you? Who is Chris Rock? Yeah, my girlfriend watch a star.

So I watched. I was scared to mention it. I was like, I do watch. My girlfriend watch a star. I sit on the couch like, cool. I watched it. And then it'd be three-month-funk. I'd be like, who the fuck is that?

Oh, she's from Empire. This is a crossover episode. And then half of the new edition movie is cast on Star Nail, so you want to like support. You know what I'm saying? And I watch the shit and I'm just like, God damn it, I want to follow it. But I got, it's right back to Arrow. I'm 40 episodes behind. Can I ask you, Roy, speaking a good TV, 2017, new edition movie?

Oh, I love movie. Oh, that was great. Yeah, it was good. It was one of the best things that happened on that was an issue. That is changed. Shout out to Barry. I'm sorry. Here's the downside to the new edition.

It has inspired a slew of biobics that do not have the budget or the music clearances or the acting prowess of the talent of the people that pulled off the new edition. Hold on, Jodacy is on his way. What are you talking about? Are they? Is it really a Jodice. You know that because you got somebody. H.1.

Hey, we'll see. That's, I'm excited. We'll see. So you ain't like the TLC? You know what? It ain't time for a Jodicy. sit down with the Bobby Christina movie when that come out. And that's the word.

I was like, man. Wait, there's a Bobby Christina. It's coming. On TV one. Don't say lifetime. No, it's TV one. Yeah, I think it's TV one. It's somewhere.

A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.

And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment.

And the next, we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream,

this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeard radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. There's two golden rules that any man should live by. Rule one, never mess with a country girl. You play stupid games, you get stupid prizes.

And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield, and in this new season of the girlfriends, Oh my God, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist. I felt like I got hit by a truck. I thought, how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care, so they take matters into their own hands.

I said, oh, hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest.

The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchisees make, to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider, you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice Podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slicel Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok.

But the Whitney John was good, though. No, what was? It was the lifetime one? The one with, you like that? No, I didn't see it. I didn't see it. With my girl. Which one was that?

It was fine. America's next top model. It was fine. Was it as good as the new edition fucking. Yaya Di Costa. Yeah. Was it as good as the new edition? No.

That was a, but that was standard was, woo, new edition was up here. New edition showed that there's a, that it's clearly an audience for retro. The same reason we got all these retro 90s hip-hop tours that are starting to bubble up and escape going back out.

But I just feel like the stories need to be done properly and don't just rush me some bullshit to the screen. Two-Pock. Because you know. Listen, listen. I need to see it. Man. It was one of those movies.

I saw, like, I saw, like, all the people, like, trashing it. And I was like, and I was like, and I walked in, like, damn, this is going to be bad. So then I walked in, my wife, we saw it. And I was just, we was watching, like, yo, this is. Because only they trashed the shit out of it. Right. But the next night, I swear, it was like, two nights later, we was at home and straight out of company came on HBO. And we watched Straight Out of Compton, it was just like, yeah, that pox shit was trash.

Like, you really did. You hadn't seen it before? I mean, I didn't seen it before, but, like, perspective. But it's so clear. I was like, oh, God, yeah, that shit was bad. It was, the pop movie was bad. I like Mr. Robot. I like...

Can I ask a question, though? Oh, go ahead. No, no, no, no. Go ahead. I was just going to give a plug for Smilf on Showtime. You know what? Everyone's, you know what? Shit is funny, bro.

It's... Not showtime. This stepmother, I like the phone? Yeah, single mom. Single mom. Did you describe it to me as smilf as a single person? So one woman, shameless. There you go.

I was just about, it's like a Fiona would just had... It was just Fiona by herself had a baby She's yelling about herself. So, Shilat, I've got two shamelessness. You watch Shamedles? I don't watch Shambles, but I've, I'm number on it. I have watched every episode. I love, you know, I love to see white people in situations like that.

Broke white people struggle? Broke ass struggling. It's like white people are bruseless place. What? The shit is. It's funny. I almost feel the same way about smell. But you know what?

The fact that they put Smil back to back when it's shameless was like, damn, white ladies stay winning. But that was cool. Wow. Oh, man. Wait, Steve, you love television. Or do you? No. I mean, you know me.

I used to. What do you? Right now I'm watching the crown. What's the show? Season two? Yeah. Oh, I got to catch me. My guilty pleasure this year was Riverdale.

I thought that. Oh. I watched Riverdale. That's one of my 40. Well, I watched it on Netflix. Netflix to catch up. Yeah. What's the show everybody's caping for it,

you're just like, yeah. Listen. I have a question about the mayor. I got one. I got one. Okay. The mayor. ABC.

I have a question about the mayor because all the ratings are off the chain. It's, but again, it's like, Shirek also got an 85 of Rotten Tomatoes. That shit doesn't have happened. Right. And I almost feel like when I saw Syrac get an 85, then I was like, oh, you're afraid to, you're afraid to criticize it. So give it a 10. Let's get out of here. Have we watched?

I'm still sticking to the mayor. I'm sticking to the mayor because I'm a complete is. I'm going to finish the season. Right. They got like a three or five episode back in. Yeah, she's got to have it. Have you watched it? She's going to have it?

No, no, no, no. I watched the mayor. I watched the pilot. And you're not aboard? No, not really. But you know most pilots suck, right? Yeah, I know that. I know that.

And usually. To me, it was just the premise. Yeah, the premise just didn't really. It felt real 80s. It felt like the toy or something. The execution is better than the premise. Yeah, rapping mayor. Yeah, I don't.

I want to watch this. Yeah. Like, didn't we see that with Kwame Kirkpatrick Nick? Didn't we have the hip-hop mayor and then I need to be in Dighting? I don't think we do.

I want to see that show. Let me see the show about the BMA. Well, they took the Kelsey Grammar show off. That was a really good show. It was called the mayor on stars. It was, I'm sorry. You said Cook.

Kelsey Grammer had another show besides Fraser? It was called the mayor. Yeah, he was the mayor of Chicago. It was on stars. Oh, yeah, yeah. The boss, the boss. Yeah, I remember seeing that.

I didn't watch it. It was like a sinister. It was like House of Cars, but like as a mayor. Before House of Cars. Yeah. Damn, you never ceased to amaze me like you. I'd watch your honor. You go deep sometimes.

Your deep cuts are deep. The Ozarks was good, too. That Jason Bainman. I could. I tried. I couldn't. What's the deal with it? What's the deal with?

What's the deal with? What's it about? White family gets pulled into the dope game. Yeah. I'm aboard. I couldn't. Like, for me, like, Walt White killed the whole subgenre of white killed the whole subgenre of white man goes into scary underworld with niggas.

Between breaking bad and weeds. Yeah, breaking bad and weed. Yeah, I'm good with that. It's a different industry. He's the one that liquidates the money. He washes the money. It's the same. I mean, he's a drug dealing nonetheless.

Like, it's, I mean, I wish Steve, it's a good show. Since we're there, since I was such a stand for Breaking Bad, I got to say, I'm struggling. I'm struggling with Saul. And I know everyone still is still trending. Where are you at? Are you current on it? I'm on season two. I'm hanging on.

Season two is tough. Stick with it. Season three is... They pay off. They pay off the money. Man, better call Saul. Back story. Oh, better call Saul. Yeah.

There's an episode. What's the episode? The one... So you're saying season two is like the Russian season of the wire? It's not quite that bad, but yeah, but it's along those lines. Yeah, I need some magic that happened. Season three, they start bringing... You start seeing more, a lot more breaking bad.

Gus Frank shows up. You know, you actually introduced to the Saul Goodman character. And you start seeing the detail, how he falls. into what he became and breaking back. And the way they wrote the art, the relationship between him and his brother. Yes. Oh, man, I forgot about that.

That's some Avon Stranger's show. That shit is hard by it. Just for that alone, you got to watch that. I forgot what the name of the episode is. Y'all know the one, the court one. The courtroom, yeah. Nica. Oh, my God.

Yo. Okay, I'm back. My surprise discovery of this year was Gomorra. That shit. What is that one? Nica, listen. The name alone. It has been a dream.

It's on, it's on, does it come on Sundance? I think it comes on Sundance. So Gamora is, it's a true story. And it's based on like the crime, the Comorah crime family in Italy. So best way I can describe it, it's basically the wire, but with no missed beats.

Like, so if a nigger do something in the opening and you be like, damn, like this nigga deserved to die. How like in the wire he wouldn't die to like episode nine, Gomorra, that nigger's dead in the next 20 minutes. Like, it is, dog, that shit is so, it's like, It's like, it's a period.

Like, what year? No, no, it takes place like in current day in Italy. And so, and it's based on the book. The name of the book is, I think, it's called. And where can I watch this? It's on Sundance, but you can, I think you can probably. We're going to stream. No, no, no, you know what?

It's on Netflix. The first two seasons are on Netflix. And Gomorra, it's like super brutal, super violent. But, like, the story is just so fucking, it's no wasted beats. It's just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And, like, that shit is crazy. I watched this. I watched it because it's subtitles.

So I got into it. I was, uh, one day the guys were in my, um, kitchen, they were doing some work in my kitchen. And it was loud and noisy. So I couldn't watch nothing that I had to listen to. So I was like, I, let me watch. Let me just watch some shit I actually had to read. Yeah.

Nigger. I, man. I ran. Speaking of which, uh, I didn't, uh, watch the latest narcos. I did. I still get more. Yeah. Yeah.

I enjoyed it. I heard it was better. I enjoyed it. It was fine. I mean, we marry ourselves. The creator said that it's the story of cocaine, not the story of Pablo. So the story of cocaine continues beyond popular. Beyond Pablo.

And to that whole point about the British shit, season three, I thought that they, I thought halfway through it. Oh, they're going to, I see what they're doing. They said, this up to this season, season four. This dude's going to be, no, they fucking tied that shit up in a bow. God damn it, season four is some whole new other shit. that'll eventually bring us up to El Chapel, like to the whole. Wow. So it's like as they follow it all the way up.

Speaking of the TV shows about cocaine, did anybody watch Snowfall? Yes. I did. I was kind of. Talk to me. Talk to me. Talk to me. Talk to me.

Come on, Roy. It's John Singleton, and he's telling the story, cocaine in the 80s and how crack cocaine came to be. So that is an interesting backstory that I didn't know anything about. But it's three-s-sing. separate characters. Takes a minute. You're watching three, you're watching three separate shows concurrently.

And eventually by the finale, they show you how they all converge together. So it's one of them you've got to stick with it because I'll be honest. I was like Magnolia from Paul Thomas. I always gave a fuck of two of the three storylines. One of the storylines I didn't give a fuck about. I'm trying to remember the three stories. It was the, the Mexican, the black kid. Yeah, you got the black kid.

The Mexican. And the wrestling, nigger. And the CIA. And then the CIA. The CIA, nigga, I give no fucks about it. Yes. And that was when I was like, fuck you.

But it came together, though. It absolutely came together. See, I didn't finish the season, so it's worth finishing. It comes together, but now let's see what season two, now that we have them all together. Yeah, I thought it would have been a better show if they would have just focused on the black kid

and then see how, watch it go out. You know what I'm saying? Correct. Okay, you start here, but now I'm fucking with the Mexicans. Now it goes up to the CIA. but trying to introduce all those stories at first. There's a lot of shit that I watch off the respect of the creators. And I go, all right, I respect your body of work.

I'm going to give you 10 episodes. And I'm going to watch Lucifer. Speaking of which already. Let's go to John's counterpart. Spike Lee's. Okay. She's got to have. Boss Bill has been breaking.

Now, I have to say that I am torn. I'm torn. And it's like, I'm at the 50-yard line, and do I step to the right, make it 51-49, or do I make it 49-51? So it's like, I've only seen two episodes, and a lot of that was mirroring the film. So I feel like I haven't seen it. You haven't. You got to get like four.

You got to give you. The thing is, is like, do you know at the inception, if you're going to like, like, I want to like it. Yeah. So I'm already there like, all right, Spike, I want to like this. I don't think Spike Lee's method of storytelling is suited for episodic television. Okay, talk to me. That's it. That's a critique.

That's it. Sounds like a sound critique. Well, I thought it was, it's funny. You said that I kind of felt the opposite way. I thought that watching it all in one dose. I didn't do that. So you did? No.

We watched it. I did. I did too. I couldn't stop watching it. I watched it off. I, like, needed a break because it's just Spike Lee. So it's going to be a lot of in your face over the head, you know. type, you know, beating you over the hillshed.

But I consider that like little breaks, like the album covers and stuff. Yeah, I like that. No, no, no, I'm talking about just like, just the way Spike Lee tells stories. Like, it's a lot of very obvious overt in your faces. This is me, Spike Lee. I have a message to tell you through these characters. These aren't real people. This is just me spouting my views at you, you know. But that's kind of his whole, and I agree

completely, but that's what I'm saying. Spike Lee's method of storytelling, I don't think is suited for episode of television. So what would we like to see? In a perfect world, how will we improve? She's got to have it? Season two. I think he's going to have to get some younger writers in the room. And let other people direct it.

Oh, he directed every episode. He didn't write every episode. He directed every episode. I like the direction. I like, that's the thing. I feel like Spike. His camera work is such a beautiful work of art. Like, I'm used to it.

Well, his DPs. I mean, it's not really his camera work. Yeah, but it's still his... All the things y'all say when Spike has already left the building. You know, we interviewed him this year, Roy. Hey, how you doing? Over there. Before we seen, see him.

I mean, we talked about... You talked about... You talked about... She hate me and... In his face. Yeah. I hadn't seen she's got to have it. We talked about...

We thought of Jesus and all and stuff. Yeah, sweet buddy, yeah. Like, we were semi-critical. Yeah. Yeah, no, no, we were... You were good. Yeah, yeah. I'm just saying that, okay, so Bill didn't like the album cover idea.

Yeah, I hated the album cover. As a musician. I love it. I like that. I just thought it was too distracting. And you didn't like the PDF. I grew up that. Super specific.

Like, what an album cover is so blurry that you were like? They didn't even use the right. Did you like the, that's a key game prints? The strafe, when they did set it off

and they used that random ass compilation. I was shocked. They could have easily found like the, I mean, they found every other image off of discog. So just grab, you know, the 12 inch.

So, I mean, the first thing Bill was mad at was the fact that some of the PDFs that they used. Was blurry. Were super blurry. I'm sure Netflix gave him a budget that he could have, like,

gotten an account from whoever's doing. Got somebody to actually take the record from him. No, no. They could have gotten to, like, to Universal's B2B site and downloaded high-quality images off the shit. Like, there's ways to do that. I told Spike for the next season that he should just have people holding. Similar to the Tribe Car Quest's jazz video

where they just hold, like, the cards or whatever, like. Yo, can I ask you all a question? You don't like those QT things of Spike? Why, Bill? Why? No. It's just no. Did y'all watch this? It takes the viewer out of the story.

Did y'all watch this? But that's Spike. Did y'all watch? Did you feel like you needed to go back to the movie? Because I want to just kind of... I haven't seen the movie in a long time and I'm scared to go back and watch it. I don't want to go back to the movie. Because there were moments when I was like, wait a minute.

I was looking at like the character Greer and I was like, wait a minute. Greer was not that obnoxious in the movie. And kind of feminine. But he was kind of like... He was a pretty boy, but this nigga Greer is like, borderline gay. Like, he's like he could be Right. He's a... I mean, he can go either way.

Like, I don't think he's gay. I just think he'd just rather marry himself. Like, they took... He was narcissists. And as it goes on. The original career was a narcissist, but this one is taking it too far. But that's the thing. It's... It's rewarded. Narcissism is

rewarded. Narcissism is social media. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And that's the thing, too, with a problem I think he's going to have with the show. I mean, I loved it. I mean, I thought it was... I really enjoyed it. I didn't hate it. I enjoyed it. But I think the problem going to be how do you make this relevant to now? Because in 88, it was like

the thought of a Nola darling was like, oh, this girl has always win. Nigger, Nick, whole shit is rewarded now. That's just the way of life. And I'm not calling Nola a ho, but I'm just saying. But the fact that you called her that is right there. I didn't call her a ho. I'm just saying

it says that things haven't changed because she's not supposed to be looking at a house. I didn't say none about what she's going. I'm saying I still felt like I was watching in older conservatives view of what black feminism is. And, you know, that's sort of the thing. And plus it's like with brilliant stuff like Atlanta.

Nica. Oh, man, I already know. And things competing with it. And y'all know how much I hate Donald Glover's music. But Atlanta's fucking brilliant. Yeah, and it's like, that's the thing. It's like, if I didn't see Atlanta and dear white people and I'll, you know, I still arrive for insecure.

But I wrestle. I know, it's funny because I wrestle with the storyline, the part about the assault on the street, right? Like, I had a moment myself where I went, he just grabbed her. What's the big deal? Why is she tripping? Why did she need to do all this stuff? Well, I think he did that because he, that's still him trying to tone from the rape scene in the original joint.

But I also had to, as a woman, and especially in the current climate, go, who am I to say that that's not her? Right, right. Right. Like, I had to have that whole moment with myself, too. So I don't know, maybe when you're talking about like... But the way he kind of came over, it was kind of startling. Like, I probably would have had the same reaction.

Yeah, yeah. Because it was, it wasn't it? Well, no, no, no, I'm thinking of the guy that, um, when she was putting up the posters and came up behind. No, this is the guy who actually, yeah, I'm thinking the first. But even in having that conversation with my mother after we both watched that scene, like my mom was kind of even like, I mean, you know, we would have just fought back or we would have done it. And I was like, you know, mommy, this is what it is.

Culture is starting to end. And I think we're starting to witness that like maybe the way we used to handle things. It's not the way that we're going to. I don't think that's going to. I don't think we're going to see that with black women though. I mean, if white women do it first and they say we can say go, then, you know, we'll keep out the thing and we'll, you know, we'll go. Am I the only person in here that still loves power? No. I like power. I love it.

It's fantasy land. I love the shit out of power. Yeah. It's a different type of black show to me because I know that there, I feel like black shows that are rooted are connected to reality. There's more of a it's like wine and you judge it the way you do wine where powers is fucking whiskey is and you just drink this right

yeah yeah I feel like yeah but if it's blackish or Atlanta or insecure we must pontificate on the means of blackness this is just a fucking dope boy who fucking the prosecutor and you mad at a 15 year old because he got his sister killed

because he's a dumb motherfucker spoiler no spoiler alerts oh I see it but just for our listeners out there well too late now but okay speaking of which can we say can we say that blackish is now the official

Black people bullhorn? I try to figure out what's more cultural importance And then I figured And then I figured And then I figured that Oh

Cosby was the first I guess the first I'll say dog was so of see we can be civilized or that sort of thing it was like oh well that was the some of my best friends are black

show I mean but because I grew up watching it it means a lot to me emotionally and we've had many a guest on the show that says that hey the Huxdables were my family too so I can't just totally dismiss it but I mean there's never been a show

like blackish that has tackled like real what it means to be black and what it's like first of all are only black people watching blackish like is this is this a water cooler moment it's got it's plenty of white people watching that show

I was hoping Steve said it out of it be on the air I've been watching it I mean my first of my kids watch blackish like my mom watches blackish yeah my mom doesn't watch anything that isn't about Jesus my kids watch blackish so

I watch it with them. But the thing I'm kind of starting to see in that, you know, first off, anytime a baby comes on the show, that's immediately kind of jump-struck moment. So I get kind of worried. But they name was Devante. Oh, Sam. The baby's name is Devante? Yes.

It was a whole episode. Okay, I missed that. I didn't. Yeah, because he wanted to keep it black. He's going to keep it real black. Yeah, but it's like every show is kind of like Anthony Anderson is like the mouthpiece for, like how you were saying, like, his characters, how Spike's characters just feel like vehicles for his views and the Anderson's character

is kind of starting to feel like that to me is like where he's the guy that's starting to feel too kind of preaching my common uh earnest earnest earnest earnest earnest no not not proper down earnest as it's too earnest earnest oh earnest yeah yeah yeah i was like Anderson new there Ernest Thomas Ernest T-Bad yeah not yeah very yeah for me it's kind of thing like that I would have shun the Cosby comparisons early on but then as the show has progressed

it's definitely been that even right down to Zoe, I'm sorry, Yara Shahidi's spinoff. Right. Right. Which is basically a different world. Like it's to show the black college experience or what it's like to be a black. I don't know what, from the previews,

I assume she's at a white school and that she's a black person at a white school. She's at a university, you're right. Otherwise, she's at the nicest goddamn black college that I've never seen. You got some black friends, but you're right. It's a university. Like some of them rooms, I'm like, they ain't no black college. But even now, and you're from,

you're from the South like me, so you know, black colleges now is not what it used to be. Nick, I went back to Fam U. I was furious. You motherfuckers got old this shit. Bray. Oh, they got shit now? What was it?

What did you go to Famu? What was your year? 96 to 01. Oh, so you weren't there when Com and got arrested for a deodorant. No, I miss Common. I miss Carmen. Com got arrested. No.

No. No. When. And he His freshman year I think he got arrested for stealing, I thought you were like he was doing a show or something

Yeah No, no, this back one Oh, that nigga was in undergrad getting a lot to fuck up Yeah He dropped out early Well, he got out early Well, he only went for one year, but I think dead press

Wait, I'm the only one I know this story about Yeah We'll let comment till that I thought that was in the press already Okay, anyway It was, don't it? Yeah, but yeah, I don't it? like she's got to have it. Before we leave,

what's our verdict on season two of Insecure? I liked it. I enjoyed it, but what annoys me about Insecure is how some people receive it. So it's the only show in which I find some of the fans of the show

annoying because people can't agree that both Issa and Lawrence are horrible. They're both horrible. Thank you. They are. Neither of them. They've both done irredeemable shit. It's almost like, hold on, hold up. Now, as a member of Lawrence, I have,

what did he do that was irredeemable? He fucked Tasha? There you go. How was that irredeemable? Well, that's not the, no. Breakup wasn't no official breakup. That was the pre-breakup breakup. He turned to a sad, individual.

I mean, I know he didn't, you know, you didn't wait long enough. And then you went to the barbecue with the chick, you know you don't want to take seriously. That's some dirty dick, nigginess shit. You don't do, you don't behave as a boyfriend with somebody that you know it's just pussy. You don't do that. But I don't think that was irredeemable.

I think that was him just being human being. Like, that's just, human beings are in ever like, he fucked up. He left that barbecue without saying goodbye, right? Yes. Well, that was fucked up. No, he said I'll be back. He said I'll be back. Yeah, yeah, he fucked.

And he didn't come back, did he? He didn't come back. Longest his problem was that he was a, he was the proverbial nice guy. Like, he's a nigga that don't know how to say no. You don't think, you don't think, you don't think, you don't think. You don't think, you don't think. He wasn't the nice. The, I'm putting in quotation marks, a nice guy.

Like, you don't think. Okay, he wasn't the gangster. lives in her building, but you know. It's the only show I watch that I won't talk with people about. Yeah, I wish that was that way. I just know it's gonna it's fucking, it's like talking to a Trump motherfucker. It's like I can't

change your mind about how you feel about this thing. But I think that, but I think that's the mark of a great show. How do you feel about it? How do you feel about it? Steve? That much, you know, I don't know how you have time to watch all this fucking television. What the fuck? You all work? Yeah, we do.

Yeah. Well, you know. I will say just on the level of... Which show is insecure? The one with Issa Ray. Only for black women. Lawrence Hyde. I don't think he was irredeimable.

I think he was just a flawed person like Issa was flawed. And I like the way they brought them having that conversation at the end. Yeah, they're so flawed they deserve each other. I hope they lived in. And they earned a powerful fucking Saul and his brother type moment of at the end. Wait, can I ask, was Michelle Deggio cell a play? No, that wasn't. No.

What was this song? It is something for the woman who has nurtured a nigga and then he leave and he get a better situation. There was like a whole, there's just layers in that. So you felt. So you basically saying that you so wasn't shit. Okay.

Because you said he went to a better situation. No. I say he was going to a better situation. I was talking about his professional career and shit like that. Wait, timeout. Because that job didn't work out. Here's the thing though. Sometimes I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,

find problems with people that watch television that hate the characters so much that you don't acknowledge the fact that they pulled an emotion out of you. I don't spend time with people I don't like. But the thing is that

I mean, I don't... No, no, no, there's some villains I cheer for like power. I like power. What? Yeah, but he was a fucking villain. I mean, he was... Yeah, but there was still like, you still, like, there were still things to like about Walt. There was something redeemable in his choices.

But the thing is that there was still... Hold up, hold up me, hold up. We didn't think that's a fault. Okay, you can understand. You can understand. You can understand. What Walt fucking white? Wait, wait.

You could understand the logic. The nigga who poisoned a kid is, dog. I'm just trying to feed my family. I'm dying of cancer trying to be my family. Well, look, I'm just, again, like if, like, most of the characters, on power are villain are villains and I kind of

you wouldn't like it I don't think it'd be your cup 50 cent I already know it's he's a great actor but that's the same continue most rappers are okay all rappers are but what I'm saying is that I mean I can see if they pulled no emotions out of you like say

no I get what you're saying yeah okay let's say Jeff from curb your enthusiasm like he doesn't pull any rage out of me or anger. I can't watch the Kirby it's too uncomfortable. Oh, I love it. This season is...

It's you. I haven't watched it. I can't watch it. This season... I've seen it, but I can't watch it. It's uncomfortable. Uncomfortable in what way.

You would love Kirby enthusiasm. It's uncomfortable. Like, I watch the shit that Larry gets himself in the tone. I mean, but I have to turn away. I can't watch it. Well, I was given a hypothetical thing. But what I'm saying is that...

It is a return, though, in 2017. If you hate the character so much, doesn't that mean if they did a good job at... drawing you in? Maybe it means they did too good of a job, but like I said. You're still watching it? Not anymore. You're not watching it anymore?

You're not going to watch season three? No. I don't care. I don't care anymore. I'm still riding my nigga Lawrence. Like, they get a season to fix it if you didn't like it. That's always my feeling. No, I gave him season two.

That was it. Season two was a season to fix season. Yeah. You're talking about Lawrence Fishburn? No, we're done with Blackish. We're done with Blackish. So to that point, Quest, that's where like. Wait, side question before you.

make your point. Okay, and I'm going to ask you, yes, you're representing all white people. Great. With the exception of the Cosby show, is the general feeling for black shows that are on television? And I know you're going to be like, well, I don't watch

it. I only watch three shows. But is the general feeling, like, with movies and black shows and black television and whatever, black movies, that, oh, well, that's not for me. I don't, you know. Do you see how television? Do you watch fresh off the boat? Yes, I do.

I didn't watch first off a boat. I heard it was cool. I actually want to hear that answer. No, no, and I don't mean, like, to put you on the spot. Do you generally feel that black shows are just like, this is another I can relate to, so I'm cool with it? I guess it depends on the show, on the quality of the show, you know, like. Because the thing is, there's some.

I was tuning in back in the day to Good Times and the Jeffersons as much as you were. But what's the last black show you watch? Now, but I mean, I don't watch any. Have you ever watched Blackish? No, no. Have you watched The Cosby Show? Yeah. So that probably was the Cosby Show.

Black is probably more important. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. No, go do that. Don't do that. It wouldn't be no Blackish if it went for no Cosby show. So how could it be more important? I don't understand.

You didn't let him finish his thing. You knew that's what he was about saying. What's crazy is that you have to like literally jump 20 years from one to the next and maybe you stop off at Martin for four seasons. Family matters. That was the widest of the show. But when it comes to good jobs, though, I mean, he was the elevator operator.

But at the end of the day, okay, I'm not trying to say that sentence, but they're, I don't know. It's like what's... It seems like they're trying. Like, I haven't seen a full episode, but from clips I've seen, it seems like they're trying too hard to be the new Cosby show or the Cosby show of today.

Like it just seems like very transparent in that way. Like, okay, we're going to try and get across this message. We're going to try and cross it. It's very message. Message. You know, that should be bombed, though. They make cartoons and stuff. But I'm saying, like, would we really know?

Would we really know what Juneteenth was if it weren't for that episodes? We would know what Juneteenth was. No, it was, no, I can applaud what they're doing. And, I mean, and I still watch the show. So, again, is it too earnest? It feels like that it parts. Maybe it's to be, though. Maybe it needs to be.

It's too earnest for us. Yes. Everything on that show isn't for us. It's pulling back the curtain for other people. Wait, but the postpartum depression episode was a good example of, you know, something that I learned. You know what I mean? Like, I didn't think she, I never thought the day that Tracy Ellis' character was going

to go off on Jennifer's character and deal with post-partum depression and what, I don't know. I'm just saying that a lot of I find a lot with there's a lot of our secrets that we're afraid to let America white America know about

what I appreciate about blackish as a program and I don't know if they set out to do this every year when they break all the stories but every episode isn't blackety black black blackness and black dog African-Pick black like there's some where it's some very benign shit.

It's just how to be dressed for a holiday park. And then the next episode is The Nod, where he's trying to teach Jr. How to nod at other black people. And it's subtle, but it's explained in a way where I think it's digestible for... But I guess my bigger point is that, you know, for me, when critically acclaimed shit comes out,

like I'm looking at Rotten Tomatoes, I'm, you know, I want to see what the most critically claimed shit is. But I almost feel like... With white people sometimes, it's almost like, well, they don't want to know about our quality shit. They don't want to know. That's what I was saying like, what's going on in the good. But I mean, but we can say the same thing about that. Like, for me, it's certain white shit is just too white for me.

Yeah, but we still know. The difference, well, hold on that. The difference between that is. Yeah, but we are very well-versed in the white world. They're still getting to know us. That's because we have to be, though. Right, but that's regardless. We are versed.

So I'm just saying, like, they really don't know. What other show besides blackish, you know, is an example of what you're talking about? I would say it's not a sitcom. It's unscripted, but hood adjacent on Comedy Central with James Davis. So this brother, it's a half hour in scripted show where he comes down and explains a particular concept. Like today, I'm going to show you how black people fuck with golf. And so then he goes to a golf course in Englewood and shows this young black golf prodigy

who you probably would have never met in any other capacity. Then he talks to black men who fuck with golf. And he just explains it because of Tiger Woods. Look at all of this shit that has happened. And if you read the reviews on Hood Adjacent, white people who wrote reviews of that show when it first premiered, it was all from a place of being voyeuristic about black culture.

And I think that's part of what blackish does for that viewership on ABC because you can't sell no hardcore straight up unapologetic blackness like I would I would love to see and we'll never know

but I would love to have seen what the pitch was for insecure for a network and I don't know where Issa Rae took the show before it landed on HBO but I would just be curious

I would love to just see some of the blackety blackish But I mean post girls you could just be like girls but black we're just hanging out Black girls. Black girls, right.

That usually ain't. It's better. But how do these shows, you know, I brought up Good Times, Sanford's son. Anything from back of the day. Good Times also had the muscle of Norman Lear. Okay, but my point is like, certainly that was a way for white people to see into the black world. So, like, how are these shows even original? We didn't get to tell those stories as much.

We were just acting in those stories sometimes. They weren't our voice. You're saying back, the name with good times, is that? Yeah. It sounds like there's a question mark at the end of what you're saying. No, I'm saying.

I'm saying, I think about it's. Good times addressed, like, all the issues. It did, but I'm just saying at times we weren't at the helm of writing those things. So the difference is that now we're getting to tell our stories. That's what I'm saying. That's the difference. But just in general, I want to know.

We're show runners. But again, it's like, if you see you show like black, is it like, oh, it's not for me? It's not Norman. Is it? Is that more potent? Blackish more potent in showing us these things than Sanford and Sun? I mean, for God's sake.

Yes, it is. Yeah, I think it's a different time. I'm going to tell you, in my black communications class in college, we discussed, like, JJ and the hypocrisy of Jay. Like, yeah, there is a deeper. Menstru and all that. Yeah. So, yes, it is very different 40 years ago in the way blacks were portrayed and the stories were told.

I'm not saying. Like, good time. No, no, no. I'm about something else. If the flavor of play was needed for a public enemy to be more accepted, that's kind of what JJ's role was in good times. Like the message was still the sneaky left hook that you weren't expecting. But JJ was the distraction that pulled you in and then you learned the lesson.

Oh, wow, this is how JJ got VD. Like this, yeah. That was that episode. That's right. Yeah, he. I forgot JJ got VD. Somebody told me he charged us. Comedy clubs extra.

To say dynamite. We wanted him to come on to say dynamite on the Tonight Show. And I believe he charges, I think his rate is $50,000. For him. Shit. No one's. I mean, why not? Do you get paid for us?

Get ready to, I can't even finish it because I'm scared I get soon. You're capable for JJ, but. You know, he's day tanked. Colter. Yeah, I forgot. Never mind. Hold up. That's really a thing?

Yeah, dude. Google that couple's photo. Yeah, I forgot. Yeah, I'm good. Yeah. All right, we are going to go in a circle. I forgot to tell my Jodice story. Oh, we have a Jodice story?

It's a quick, simple. Oh, same. We got time for Jodice. All right, so bookmark, whatever you're closing with. So we were talking about Jodice earlier, and this is like the first time I ever saw what I consider real celebrity was Jodicy. Like, I'd never. ever seen like fucking celebrity.

And it's also why I feel like there haven't been a lot of like these black, as many black entertainers getting caught up in the bullshit. And maybe it's just black women keep secrets or they just cut your ass out for grabbing the TV. We protect y'all, yes. That's what we've been doing. A win is a win. A win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me.

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This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest. The director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galco, joins the Sports Slice podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating draft prospects. From hidden traits teams look for to the biggest mistakes franchises make to the players flying under the radar. This is the insight you won't hear anywhere else. If you want to understand the draft like an insider,

you don't want to miss this episode. Listen to the Sports Slice podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12 and TikTok podcast network on TikTok. What is the Jodacy story? We'll go back to Jodice. So I'm doing a comedy show in Valdosta, Georgia.

Say it again? I'm doing a comedy show. A comedy show. Can you spell that? Valdosta V-A-L-D-O-S-T-A. Home of the Valdosta State University Blazers. How do you know that? It's a city.

Oh, I only know. You're never leaving. South Georgia. Augusta and where R-E-M's from Athens? Athens. So we're sitting out front waiting for the club promoter to come pick us up. And the limo pulls up. And it's like 20 gorgeous women in the lobby.

And the limo pulls up. They all stand and they all come out into the little, you know, the little patio area in front of the hotel. And me and the other comedian, we're just watching this shit unfold. And some fucking sharp promoter, this is all going back to the whole wrangler.

Who's the whole wrangler? So this dude comes up, he looks all the women up and down, and he just goes, you, you, you, you, and picks like six women and walks him into the limo. The other women just sit there kind of sad, but they don't leave.

and I'm like, why don't you leave? You didn't get shows. They can get tagged in for later. So to that point. Wow, how do you know this? I've been in some lobby. Watching something. So we're sitting there.

Wait, can I play Joe to see why you tell this story? Anyway, so go ahead. So we're sitting there and these gorgeous women and I've just never seen no shit like this before. I'm like 22. And they walk into the fucking limo. And through the life. lobby comes Casey and Jojo, just all these niggas.

Shirt unbuttoned, just, you know, them R&B niggas. No chess. Yeah, bird chest. No chess at all. Ain't did push up to do. Shirt unbutton. And they come walking through the lobby and just on some black man shit, they see me and at the community go, what's going on, fellas?

We go, what's up, man? Yeah, yeah. They get in the limo. The whole Wrangler dude, before he closes the door, leans his head inside the limo and goes, all ladies, just so y'all know, we all adults, and we're going to get into some adult shit in this limousine. If you ain't about no adult shit,

now it's the time to leave the limousine. And you see the girls that's waiting on the bench all take a half step to the limoom. waiting for one of them chicks to get out. Nobody fucking moved in the limo. Oh, shit. And the fucking promoter, the whole wrangling nigga, gets in the limo, closes the door,

looks over at me and Henry Colman sitting on the bench and just goes, one day, boys. One day. And just rolls up the window and the window. Yo. Immediately I have to go tell $50 worth of jokes at a fucking pizza bar. Look, can we just...

I think Steve wants to go home. Can we... We are. He's about to go around the table. We got to run and do something. What's this... Now, Amir gave up on that. No, we ain't giving up.

Oh. Hurry up. So, why? I want to go home. What? Tell us one great thing that happened in 2017. Oh, shit. Memories, music, TV, whatever.

Just, this was a shitty year. It was a shitty year. But... Very shitty. You know what? What nice thing happened? What was it worse than 2016? What was your cat video of 2017?

Don't try to play me on what I'm going to say, but I'm going to just say this. It is real pop culture. Like, it was a shitty year, but at least I got Sterling K. Brown. This is us. That's how I feel because he's who I could. That was your cat video. Now, I would like to assume what your answer was, Fonte, but I'll ask you. What was your highlight of 2017?

My highlight of 2017 was getting married, man. Okay. Now, what was your real answer? Okay, my real answer was Gamora season two, that shit was lit, nigga. I'm gonna watch that shit, man. No, no, seriously. The way you're describing, like,

she's got to have it in comparison to Atlanta and how it feels kind of, Gomorra is like that for the wire. Like, you watch Gamora, and then you look at the wire like, yeah, nigga, these young boys about to run your ass off the court. It's like that. It's like that.

I'm gonna start tonight? I don't take that like that. Spell this out. Gamora. Like Gmorman, Gimore. Sodom and Gormon. Yeah, like Saudi-R-N-W. And it's on Netflix. It's on.

I feel like I should explain Sterling better. But, um, explain Stirling better. This is us. This is saving NBC. This is us in all his acceptance speeches. And being a strong black man with a strong black wife that both work on the same show together. And then his wife, his wife, Coletchi, that fake T. He's married to the woman.

He's married to the woman who plays kind of like the woman who took on him as a little kid on the show. And this is in real life. In real life. Yes. When he thanks her all the time, I would like to thank her. beautiful black wife. I thought he meant his wife on the show. I love her too.

Her name is Susan Caledchi. Louis C.K.'s wife. White. Oh, he didn't have a good year. Oh, man, he didn't. We just skipped over the fuckery that was. All the sexualhood. That's a whole other show is.

All right, Bill. Best thing that happened to me is sure? Yeah, anything. I got my own apartment. Okay. I moved out away from my cokehead alcoholic roommate and his weirdo friend. Shout out to him. Damn.

That Nick, Coke. Yeah, nigga, how you do a stimulant and a depressive? He found away. Was there any of your stuff missing? No, surprising. I need it for the rent. I mean, I smoked the TV. For real, though, like the two years I lived in that apartment,

that was partially the reason why I hardly ever left. Whoa. Protect your shit. Damn. I mean, it was my TV in the living room, my Mac minia up there, all that shit. You should have locked that shit up like a motel six, put that little car on the back of the TV. where you can't take the coax of cable.

That was the best thing that happened to me this year. I had a tough summer with the sciatica. Talking good stuff. But I'm doing good with the diabetes. Let's leave it at that. Damn, you're no longer going to be Sugar Steve. Bill's not here. Bill Sherman's not here.

So I think that's why. I should have been scrolling through my photos because Apple, this album will show you. moment you zoom out to like the year and your pictures of your iPhone you were literally you were literally going through that's what I should have been doing knee jerk um starting to this is going to sound fucked up like I'm a horrible father I don't I don't uh leaning into fatherhood a little more he's 19 months now oh wow how much you think he was like 12 yeah yeah right yeah

Right. Not that he's 15, I figured I'll give this shit a shot. You're like 19. Months. Yeah, I mean, 2016, he was just a noise box. Yeah. And so this year he's like doing skills and shit. And I'm like, okay, yeah, I can get with this shit.

Motherfucker repeated me. Yeah. He's starting to get a personality. Yeah, I caught him in the pot with like a, he was in the kitchen and pulled a pot out the cabin and had a spoon and was like pretending to stir. I'm like, oh, my fuck I want to cook. Okay. So, yeah, I'd say that.

I own some life shit. Like that was like dope. And like that's like having a kid is weird because it makes you focus more. Like I have less time now as a human being, but I'm more productive than I've ever been. And I don't know how that balances out. Maybe it's the whole Questlove 30 job thing. Yeah, because I don't think you realize, you don't realize how much time you had until you have a kid. Like when you, before you were kidless, you were like, man, I got a, I don't have a, I don't know.

I was just fucking around all the time. Not no more. You know what I did? That was amazing. I cleaned up motherfucking shop. Cleaned up shot like five people. Yes. You sound like the 1% right now.

No, no. I mean, sometimes you have to, sometimes you have to spring clean. I get it, but that can be the first good thing. No. For you. No. I mean, you have to spring clean the fucking.

the fuckery out of your life. I did that on my birthday. You got to do that. Wait, why are you looking all depressed, Laia? No, I'm not. Boy, your gripes are legit. I just didn't want somebody losing their job to be the highlight of your year, that's all.

No, even two of them aren't on payroll. It's just like I literally just cut people off. Decided that I have to. I'm done with this. Yeah. You want me to be happy, right? Laya.

Yes. Cutting people off was like the greatest thing I ever learned how to. to do. I think I might have gotten too addicted to it. Is one of them of course. Okay. Yeah. Edit. Well, edit. No, no, no. I'm just, that was mine.

Oh, okay. Oh, nice one. How do you all handle firings? I got fired over Twitter. Oh, wait. You got fired over Twitter? Well, I found out over Twitter that I was fired. What was the job? Radio.

Radio is one of the coldest firing. Talk about it, Roy. They just fucking, one day you just get a call. Yeah, don't come here no more. Like what? Yeah, just don't come here anymore. Or they fire you in a see-through room in front of everybody is they going to get breakfast in the morning.

Yeah. I woke up to like 20 text messages talking about, hey, man, are you okay? What's going on? I get on Twitter, check my Twitter that morning. We love Roy. We always miss, we're going to miss them. And like somewhere in the bottom of the replies.

What, Potshole or? No, this was terrestrial. This is 957 in Birmingham. If you just Google, Roy Wood Jr. Fire, like, the article is still there. You're still reading the Birmingham News. Like, I'm fine up that morning on Twitter.

I'm getting ready to get up, go to work, brush my teeth, and I go, what the for? Oh, I ain't got no job. All right, well, I guess I'm moving back to L.A. Yo, can I tell you, the last radio job I got fired from, they got us. They was like, yo, we having a staff meeting, right? So everybody comes to the staff meeting ready.

Do you already know? The next thing you know, envelopes. So we switching signals and changing, the format seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven. And you know, it's a little bit of severance because it was a black on radio. Oh, of course.

Damn, radio the coldest, man. I thought I to do this year over email and I've been told that I was a asshole for it. You know what? That whole, all right, y'all believe in that whole face-to-face thing. Well, at least a phone call. Dumping or firing? Okay.

Do you believe in that whole, like, me and man and do a face-to-face? It depends on how much time was invested in the relationship. Right, were you, but do you really respect it? It depends on how much time was invested in the relationship. It's over eight years, but they live in another city, so the best I could have done is by phone. Should have called. But my feelings as I started making the decision to fire this person was, no, you've had this entire time to get better and you did not.

So the totality of our relationship has you been you half-assing it. To me, that's more egregious than me emailing you. Yes, yes. We'd workshop the relationship and therapy and all of that shit. And then when it came time to do it, I was like, man, fuck it. I ain't going to waste someone time on this shit because I know if I call you, it's going to be a whole other fucking. Fuck all that, man.

Let me send this email, click send it and make it clean. And keep it moving. Rip the bandage off. There you go. Wow. This has been an incredible. Lengthy. Lengthy, two-part.

No, it's probably just one part. You're going to serve it up straight? No chasing? I mean, it's just one year in review. Sure, why not? Yeah. Oh, boy, that's... Ain't nobody going to make it through this year.

They can't skip ahead now. It ain't, it ain't 2016 no more. Stretch out the dough for a little bit. Jesus Christ. We got chapter. Please, let's cut it. Well, everybody, let's... You need to cut it.

Let's have... Let's just say that, you know, let's be happy that... and grateful that we're still here and alive. Oh, yeah, that's cool. Yeah, man. And one last thing, sorry, before we leave. Can we attempt to name everybody that was on the show in 2017? It's a thank you.

Yeah. Just to see what we can do. I'm ready. Just to recapitulate. Just to see if we can. Jimmy Jam. Jimmy Jam. Babyface.

Babyface. The emotions. Gerrida Carrethal. Saida Garrett. Roy Ayers. Roy Ayers. Chris Rock. And the Soul Train.

MC Search. Q-tip. Q-tip. Prodigy. Man, rest in peace. Peace. Who else? Damn.

D. Giles Peterson. Giles Peterson. I can't even name one. Oh, God. Just Blaze. Just Blaze. DJ Premier, Heather Hunter,

Donnie Simpson, Booty Collins. Sheila E. Stephen Hill. Where are you going to land in 2018? That was 26. I talked to him. I saw him the other. Where are you going to be?

He's doing stuff. Okay, I know. He still has juice. I'm getting, uh, not that you all care. Soul train. Yes, exactly.

I do care. Okay. Yeah, I'm getting the rest of my soul chain episodes. Um, God, you know, my dad had a chance to buy into that. What?

Buying the soul dream? Mm-hmm. What the hell? Like in the early days, like the, off the rip, my dad hired Don Cornelius in Chicago. What?

See, we did. Oh my God, we never got to your story. No, we didn't. All right. So you're going to have to come back so we could have the official

Roy Wood episode. Because you were just, just here recapping. No, this was fun just if I can kick it. I know that, but this was our year-in recap episode, not the Roy Wood Jr. I'll save my daddy's silver-right woke shit for later. I'd save that for the next time.

And you'll rest of your radio, because how long do that? I did that 12 years. And I have questions about doing prank calls professionally. Like, how does that? Well, wait to the Roy Wood Jr. I ain't got a new one in 10 years. It's only like two, three services now for that shit. Like the main.

Wow. But they fake them. I was a lunatic. Yeah, you were doing. Yes, you were, for you. My shit was legit. You were a master. You were.

And I kept the Rawls in case anybody want to challenge me. I got like 10 minute fucking, any prank I've done, I got a 10 minute fucking master for anybody who dares say that my shit was fake. That's the one thing I'll get. It's the only thing I get angry about. I never questioned. Oh, people question. Oh, they thought it was to set up.

Yeah, because there are fake shit. No, yeah, that's a lot of fake shit. Well, you don't want to do the roaches and chicken calls. That's a nigga. That's a classic, man. Come on. That's a good, nigga. But that was based on some real shit.

A lady went to a hood seafood spot in Birmingham and she found roaches fried into the breading of the chicken. And I called her as the supervisor at a restaurant. Said you line because that roaches, the roaches ain't even that color. No, I love that call. I wrote the brown. That was a black room.

Oh, man, that shit was funny. Look at a nigga. I'm trying to be professional. Man, that shit was hilarious. Steve's about to leave. Yeah, we got to talk. We got to talk about that. Because I'll tell you how pranks connected with hip hop

and how, like, so many fucking Southern mixtape niggas. Yes. Really helped me out. Anyway, we didn't think, shout out, Robin Thidi as well. Anyway, and also, Michael McDonald. We want to give a shout out to Alex and Tyler. Yes.

Who are fearless editors, who helped make this show. You want a lot of Lickie. Slitsmont liquor. Shout out to Slitsky and James Joe. Slitsky. Are you all still in there? With the good hair. Slitsky and King James.

Yes. Anyway. we will see you guys next year. And, uh... Thank you, Pandora. Literally, we're not taking any time off. We'll be back next week. Well, I don't know if I'll be here, but, you know.

Evan, Jason and Adel. We already taped that episode, thank. God willing if I'm still here. And Brian. Yeah. Any, anyone else? No, I'm just doing credit. So on G.

Well, I mean, we already hit up all those people last week in the Hollywood. So I just forgot to mention Alex and Tyler. East Coast ain't got love for Dr. D's new dog. You robbed your eyes when I said, Sean G. Oh, no. I rub my. My eyes at East Coast because I'm thinking D Barnes. But yes, okay, yeah.

Anyway. Anyway. All right. Yes, this has been a two-lengthy episode of Quaslo. I forgot the name of my show. Quest Love Supreme. We will see you on the next go-round. Follow us on Instagram.

And check out the next Supreme because we put our favorite songs of the year. Let's go. Let's stop. Ladies and gentlemen. Play the team to get out. Goodbye. Yo, why? Are we not professional?

Anyway, thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. We'll see you on the next go-round. Questlove Supreme is a production. I Heart Radio. This classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora. For more podcasts from IHartRadio, visit the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifers Show. This is a place for

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