The Questlove Show - QLS Classic: Angela Rye

Episode Date: January 19, 2026

Revisit this classic episode from the QLS archives. Attorney, political advisor and TV commentator Angela Rye talks about the current political climate, her part in bringing about change and some of the ways everyone can get involved.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Questlove Supreme is a production of IHeart Radio. This classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to QLS Classic. My name is Questlove, your host. This particular episode of Questlove Supreme is from 2017. We did this on July 12th. We got to speak to Angela Rye. I mean, oftentimes we only get to see these micro clips of her social media as a

you know, talking head for CNN or maybe MSNBC. But, you know, she's a, she's family. She's friend of the show. And during this time period, of course, we were like one year into that administration trying to figure out how to get our way out of it. But a lot of the stuff is timely as far as her entry into, I guess, being a freedom fighter, if you will. So I hope you enjoyed this episode.

Angela Rye, do a less classic. Let's go. Suprema, SUC-SU-S-S-Primo playlist. Yeah. Quest loves playlist. Yeah. Bitch, I'm broke. Is Fonte.

Yeah. I get the props. Yeah. Angela's from Seattle. Yeah. Like mix a lot. No. Supreme Roca.

Supreme. My name is Sugar. Yeah. I don't get raucous. Yeah. Now may I please join your black caucus. Role call. No.

Supremia roll call. She is not laughing. Suprema, sub, sub, sub, sub, sub, subprima, sub. I'm unpaid bill. Yeah. And how you doing? Yeah. Can't stand it no more.

Yeah. Collusion. Roll call. Supremma, So, sub, sub, supremo roll call. Suprema, so, sub. Still's not ready. Yeah.

For this roll call. Yeah. So I'll shut up. Yeah. That's best for all. Roll call Supremma Son

Try to fight it Yeah But she won't be denied Bills us better I got bars Yeah Oh man I missed up Yeah

I see stories I knew what was coming in Really? Really you rhyming GD Steve wins I didn't know you Going the mix a lot Way

So you sound like A little bit of be real And rock You remember when Big Daddy Kane's dancer had be real itis. On a, on a, hey.

On so-ab-brough? Oh, sco-brose. Scoop lover. Scoop-lover, yeah. I thought you had Scoop-lover, Idis. Nah, that was my mix of a lot, impersonation. All right. It was well done. It was good.

It was good. It was good. It was well done for Seattle. I'm sorry. A very special. What's Going Down episode. Avest my mama. Of That's my mama. Of Quest Love Supreme.

Welcome. I had Supreme guys. How are you doing? Thank you. We ain't on the outfield or, you know, on the court. We just ate spring. No sports metaphor. We're running out of sports.

I feel like this is going to be a not a tense episode, but a serious episode. Imagine. Let me just take all the fun out the room right now. We have fun. We got fun. She got to have bars. He's revolutionary. I don't have bars anymore.

I didn't even get to do a second try. You want to do it right now? No. No, that's one. If you mess up. You mess up. That's it. Welcome to my world.

Anyway Canbocha Ladies and gentlemen In our In our special What's Going Down episode of Damn I forgot the name of my show

What's happening? Yeah Quest Love Supreme Do you mess up You got a second I love this woman so much That I forgot the name On my own damn show

Um I You know For me For the times that we live in Um We've been spending a lot of this time Nerding out

with our favorite music acts and, you know, learning about music and art. We rarely do anything leaning towards politics. But I guess we'd be remiss if we weren't at least going to have one general discussion about

what's going down in the times we live in. And I can't think of anyone better to sort of tour guide us through this alternative reality we're in right now been our next guess, lawyer. Exactly. In the role of the Black Caucus,

are you the board member? So I serve on two of the affiliate organization board. So there's the CBC PAC. That's a political action committee. I'm on that board. I'm also on the CBC Institute board. And I was the CBC Executive Director and General Counsel, but I hung up my jersey,

sports money for you. And I'm great with sports. Because Bill's going to call me out on that. You know, on some elementary school stuff, though? Wait, blah, but can she break down? Let me say it. Ladies and gentlemen, can we please welcome on Angela Ride to Questleaf Supreme.

Now, what was you saying, Lai? Now, I'm just going to say, can you break down what the black caucus does? Because there are people who really don't know. Sure. They're often, they don't know, especially those that say, where's the congressional white caucus as if the rest of the 435 members aren't white? I digress. So, the congressional

Black Caucus is an entity that was founded in 1971 by then, I think it was 12 members that were black in the House of Representatives. And they established the organization so that there could be a space where black people's issues were heard. They're known as the conscience of the Congress, and now they are almost 250 members. And of course, there are two senators in the United States Senate who also serve as members of the Congressional Black Caucus. There are three black but one opted not to join. Tim Scott. Thank you.

Thank you. Write it down. So can I assume that most of the members of the CBC are Democrat? Yes. There is one current member of the CBC who's Republican.

Her name is Mia Love. She is from Utah. My aunt. That's not your aunt. Well, her last name was Love, so I just assume that all loves are related. My dad normally says maybe the same plantation. That's what he says to that.

Just to be honest, that's what he says. The same plantation. Yeah. Has she attended meetings? Yeah. She has been active on some issues. She definitely divergent on others, but she's been active on some issues. I see.

So not why, because I appreciate your grassroots involvement and you using the elbow grease and getting down and dirty. but why would you choose this particular field? I mean, you went to law school. You could have, you know, you could have just been. Got some other stuff? Yeah. I mean, what truly means you, was it following the family business? Or, I mean, and your father's footsteps as far as the community, like what most lawyers I know are thinking in terms of,

oh, success in my own law firm, being a partner, and that sort of. things. So should we know who her father is? His name is Eddie Rye Jr. He's an activist in Seattle, but it's actually a really interesting story. What I'll tell you is there were two other paths that I thought I would choose before I chose politics. I grew up in a house with a dad who's an activist, and I thought he was always on the opposite side of elected politics. So I hated it growing up because I couldn't understand why they didn't understand why he was pressing for, you know, or a part of anti-apartheid movements or, you know, getting involved with ensuring that subcontractors and contractors of color had an equal share of the pie. I didn't understand

why that was even an issue, right? And so growing up with him, I hated politics because they were never on his side. And it wasn't until I was in my last year, my father. My father, semester of law school, I wanted to do an internship in Los Angeles. And Maxine Waters was someone I respected a lot. And so I was like, well, if I can learn from her, you know, maybe this will be good, but I'm going to go so that I could be a trial attorney like Johnny Cochran. I just want to get an offer at the Cochran firm. And before that, I wanted to be a sports entertainment lawyer, but I'll save that story for another day. It's really interesting how that happened or didn't happen. But I did my internship and like fell in love with the bridge between activism and politics.

And there's no better bridge for that than Maxine Waters. I started calling her the nation's congresswoman then. That was in 2004, 2005. And just loved working with her. Loved how she made everything work together for us, regardless of if we lived in her district or not. And I did get an offer from the Cochran Front. I'm like had a mentor Sean Chapman Holly. Shout out to Sean Chapman Holly, who's still a good friend.

Had an offer with the firm and then he died. Damn. And I was like, oh, Lord, maybe this wasn't the path. So at my, the National Black Lawson's Association. What year did he die? 2005. Okay. At the convention, I was getting ready to introduce Congresswoman Waters who came to our convention.

I was like, what am I going to do now? Johnny Cochran died. And she was like, I told you to go to the hill. So I was like, well, maybe I'll think about that now. And that's really the short version of how that happened. But she's never been wrong. And I'm so happy to see millennials woke about her now. But she's been doing this.

The nation's congresswoman Queen Maxine has been doing this. So it's cool to see. You had her back too. It all makes sense now too why you had her back even more when that whole stupid Bill O'Reilly situation. Well, I think I would have had any sense that going through that. That was stupid. She's on the floor of the United States House of Representatives talking about what patriotism

in the era of Trump really means. Like, it's not, you know, pledging blind allegiance to some concept. It's about standing up for what we know to be truthful and righteous. And for her to be talking about that. And he's talking about a damn James Brownwig. It sent me to a place. Yeah, it's dismissive. Yeah.

To, among other things. A lot of shit, but yeah, dismissive. That was the kind way you're saying. Yes, that was very kind of me. So do you, I mean, obviously, I know it gets overwhelming. but just watching you in action. Of course, like in the age of social media, a lot of people are familiar with you

as far as your clips on the internet, usually going at people. And rightfully so, whenever facts are sprouted out. And that's the thing, like when I watch you go against. two, three, four people at a time, it is, I mean, it's baffling to me. I don't know if it's the equivalent of someone asking, well, you know, how do you coordinate your kick drum

and your hi-hat foot and your left-end, your right hand, and talk to, you know. How are you not exhausted? I didn't say I wasn't exhausted. I did not say that. But, I mean, as, I read, the era that we live in now, which is, of course, I guess,

the alternative facts era in which things are said with such a straight face. I think, you know, in general, a lot of us have been programmed to believe that if any information comes from someone wearing a suit and spoken in the King's English, then why should they lie to me? Like, you know, why would they want to lie to me? And usually, you know, a lot of benefits of doubts are given. and we're seeing straight up false information how, I mean, to me it's like the equivalent of you playing a tennis match

with five people on the other side. Five, yeah, yeah. I mean, just in this era, especially when you agreed to do pundant remarks on shows, how do you grasp your information? Because you have to know what they stand for and how they come. Like, do you, does someone train you? No, I've never had media training. But I will say that I did get Crossfire training.

I don't know if you all remember Crossfire. Like the CNN show back in the day, when it was all the old white dudes at the table. Just growing up with my dad, now he doesn't lie, but we don't always agree on the means to an end goal. So growing up, like just debating him or, you know, talking to my friends or debating race issues. Like I went to a majority white high school, you know, started a black student union. And so you get used to having to explain to people your perspective because it's not the majority view. So whether or not this is, this may be an alternate universe, but it's still not the majority view on the panel. So it's just debating.

The problem I have, and I think when people see me get really upset, is when I remember the responsibility that we have to, to give people factual information. I think the frustration that I have, if nothing else right now, is being able to speak to people in their homes on their TV screens is an awesome privilege. And we have an obligation

to give them information they can rely upon. And so I'll normally lose it, especially on, like, Black networks. Like on TV one, if I'm on Rolling Show and somebody's lying, I flip out. Like, there's been, you know,

gif or gif, depending on how you say it, jiffable moments. just from that, like, please don't come here and lie to our folks. Not that folks should be lied to on CNN either, but I just think that there's a different type of responsibility. And even with CNN, I think it is really hard because I remember one of the debates during the general election, the debate commission decided that the moderator did not

have an obligation to fact-check the candidates. And I lost it. I was like, what do you mean? Like that's your only responsibility besides asking the questions. Like, of course that you had one job. You got or two. You know, one A and one B. Like, all in one.

But you have some, what do you mean? Like, of course you have to make sure that they're being, like, what are you debating then? If facts become a debatable point and not just the perspectives on those facts, that is a new challenge. And so I do, I find it immensely frustrating because I don't understand how someone could be deemed credible at all if they're not relying on the same. principle of truth. You know, it's just, it's maddening. It really, it really, really is. And so to me,

I just think that the energy I take into those spaces is, if you're not going to be told the truth from anyone else, you're going to hear it from me. And if I'm ever, if I ever misspeak on something, if a stat is wrong, you know, if I said a word wrong, I'll fact check it later on Twitter, but I'm not going to lie to people intentionally deceiving them. Like, that is just wrong. And that's just kind of where I draw the line. now as of this particular taping right now the the health care situation is in the hands of the senate and I'm seeing a lot of them I guess at one point on Twitter there were at least three or four of them that tweeted out or gave interviews sort of to the tune of you know your

saying that, you know, that 22 million people might lose their insurance or in this several hundred thousand might die if this law goes. And, you know, that was, that was not a good conversation point to sway them the other way. But, I mean, what is for, for those, because I have a lot of friends who are so overwhelmed with what's going on that now my friends are at the point where they're just so, not even past the point of indifference, but just so overwhelmed that they don't watch the news at all. And these are the ones who are generally on my side of the fence. I don't know.

I can't sleep at night unless I at least watch an hour or two of at least Rachel's show or someone that I know that's going to give me straight up facts. but how do you how do we reignite people or a community of people that just feel like it's

it's no use yeah no use I started have you guys have you guys heard of a handmade handmade's tale I haven't watched it yet

have you watched it I haven't watched it but I know it's dog it's yeah I heard it's the future's really sad like like if you yeah if you think that like House of Cards or, you know, whatever's being depicted now in television as, don't,

Hamys, like, okay, I check it. I almost feels like this is, that's where it's going to go to. Okay, I'll check that. I haven't even watched that. I gave up on House of Cards. Like, I just, because it was, we live in House of Cards. Right? Yeah, I don't.

I don't know how they did that. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, I like, we blame House of Cards, actually. Why? I don't know. All of it. Oh, you're not even being ironic. No.

You're just, does that look ironic to you? I need to find somebody to blame because this makes no sense besides old Vlad. Like I just, I got to, I don't know. So, something happened. On the hills of what Amir said, and on that note,

how do you prioritize the issues that you should be most caring about because, yes, health care is the issue right now, but there are numerous issues that, you know, our president right now and his Congress are about to fuck up life with. So how do you do that, Angela? How do you prioritize?

So first, that's y'all's president. That's not, right? that's not mine. So, no, so I think that that's a really, really good question. And what I appreciate about it is I get so frustrated with whether they're elected officials, there are sitting members of Congress right now who will say, well, we don't need to be talking about Russia because what people really want to know about is their health care. What people really want to know about is, you know, where the next job is going to come from the economy. I want to know about all that. But here's the, that's right. And so if we're honest, every single day, all of us are responsible for.

balancing something. Amir, we were talking about your time earlier. Like we're responsible for balancing some things. We are people who can walk and chew gum at the same time and be okay. So it's actually okay for us to try to get to the bottom of what happened with Russia and how they ended up in several, you know, polls, you know, precincts messing with stuff. You know, that's important for us to understand because over time, if countries, if entities can continue to interrupt and disrupt our democracy, the ways in which we engage in the electoral process, people are going to become disillusion with that. That is very, very, very dangerous.

It's no longer a democracy at that point. That's exactly right. That means a select few are picking your leaders. And what happens is this health care bill to bring this back full circle, which is, you know, very toxic. It is a purge. That's what the fuck it is. It's a tax cut for billionaires.

You know, it is a way of one of the Senate compromises. that came about yesterday was, okay, well, we'll just, we'll reinstitute the mandatory health care. You have to sign up mandatorily, but what we're going to do is if there's a lapse in your health care, then there's going to be a six-month window for you to get health care again. What happens if something happens to you in those six months? And you can't afford to pay for health care out of pocket. That's not a compromise. And if it's a compromise, who is it on the backs of?

And those are folks who normally look like us. If they're underserved and marginalized communities, black and brown communities, we have to pay attention. And so if there's nothing else that I hope comes out of this treacherous, dangerous, awful time, it is that I hope we realize that these people are working for us. And I use this analogy on a panel the other day. There's not a single one of us who, if we are employing people, just are like, okay, we're going to pay you, you go and do whatever and never check in. There's a team call. There's a team meeting. There's an agenda.

There's some type of metrics for accountability where they have to check in with us. We pay these people. They owe us answers. They owe us to do the right thing. They think it's town halls. And town halls aren't even enough. They've got to show up to those. And people are starting to show up to town halls, but even that's not enough.

We need to be checking them on what they're doing. What they're doing impacts us more in some instances than the employees that we have. So can I ask you? And I know as a lawyer that you're not supposed to speculate. But with the Russia issue, break it down to me like I'm a six-year-old. Wait, why are we going to six? It was a TV show. At first I was like eight, six, eight, six.

All right, let me go with six. Just say collusion a lot. What is your belief? And you're connected to. a lot of those, a lot of people in politics that we're not getting. What is your belief on what happened? Now, what I'm thinking the narrative is, especially in light of Trump, even slightly admitting that there was, I was shocked that he even admitted about collusion or, you know,

Russia's involvement, because before it's just straight up denial. Like, we don't know if they're doing. China could be doing it, not us. But what is, I believe that he was trying to position himself in terms of if it did happen, I know nothing about it. I have no clue. What is your belief? Because now I'm even hearing theories of like, well, Russia paid off a lot of members in Senate.

Jared Kushner's the devil. in Congress. No, how far does this stretch? So, I don't want to speculate, but here's what I would. Here's what I would do. How safe can you go to the deep waters explain to us what you think? I can go safe because I have a security clearance,

but it's not active since I left the Homeland Security Committee. So I'm good. I'm not relying on any actionable intelligence, Russia, okay? Because they're going to be trying to hack. Somebody really in real life they hacked into my Amtrak thing but I will talk about that another time No, we need to talk about that at some point

to hear. Because I want to know how... Like a proton mail account. I was like, what email? I have a pro-time mail account, but that's not mine. Yeah, that's crazy. We'll talk about that.

That's why we got you a car home. All right. No Amtrak for you, Angela, right? We got cars. Anyway, so here's what I would ask. I think that is very important that, of course, there is this special prosecutor that was appointed

but there also should be ongoing investigations on the part of the House and the Senate. Those are happening. Why isn't there a special independent commission stood up to look into this? If we know that potentially members are compromised or potentially they can be blinded by their own political beliefs, why not stand up in independent commissions to get to the bottom of the following? One, why would Donald Trump not release his tax returns even during the campaign? I think that if we're going to have a transparent government, it needs to start from the very beginning. So from the outset, right?

Problems began to percolate during the campaign. So release the tax returns, really look into them to see if there's any debts owed to Russia or any other foreign entities for that matter that may have close ties to Russia. I think the second thing to understand is who are all the players, both from the Trump campaign and the Trump transition team, who had any active involvement with Russian officials? Russian allies, Russian businessmen, going from Paul Manafort to Mike Pence. The reason why Mike Pence recently had to layer up is because he oversaw the entire transition team. For those of you that don't know what a transition team is, that is literally the body that is created to transition from one presidential administration to another.

So right after the campaign, they stand that up. I think the third thing is understanding whether or not there were any past dealings with Russia from a business standpoint or a personal standpoint. There were a couple of things that Donald Trump did on the campaign trail that should cause alarm. One, he encouraged them to hack into Hillary Clinton's emails that nobody could find at a press conference. So it's not like this is secret.

And I can't remember the second thing because it's been that kind of day. It could be anything. It's been that kind of year. What else did he do? If only pussy crap. I know. I know what else.

There was another point. And actually this wasn't during the campaign, but there was another point. where he talked about, no, he actually did this on the debate stage as well. He talked about he would probably get along very well with Vladimir Putin. So that's sending some type of signal. And I don't know what that signaling was, but I think shortly thereafter, right, there was this, you know, from FBI director Comey, there's a new investigation happening into Hillary Clinton's emails. That's two weeks before the election.

Why did FBI director Comey feel like he needed to do that if he originally thought that the actions taken by Loretta Lynch were a bridge too far just by sitting on the tarmac with Bill Clinton? So there are all of these questions that are very fuzzy, but yeah. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.

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and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. My guess is maybe he was being blackmailed or... Maybe. And I don't want to... That's why I'm saying I'm going to tell you what the questions are. But do y'all know that today, I'm sorry, I watched the news today. He said that his approval rating in Russia is like 44% here in Russia and I forget the other country, but it's both not our friends.

But I just thought that was ridiculous. That's your approval rating here among us. Oh, no. You know Westie. That's terrible. I got what I deserve. the fuzzy mic. I'll say for you, Laia.

Thank you. Oh. No, I'm sorry. I come with it. Something make believe. But no, I just think that there are a number of questions, and I think that what we could urge the listeners, the American people to do is until those baseline questions are answered. Like, you just have to keep pressing to ensure that we get to the bottom of those truths.

They're just too important. And the answers could be tremendously detrimental to the. democracy. If we know there was interference in the election, what motivated that interference? Why would Russia choose to interfere in this particular election when we know from from intelligence that I think has now been shared that Russia did not like Hillary Clinton? Right. So I just, I think there are so many problems with this. It's, it truly is a movie. Like, as soon as he's done, hopefully in one more year, because he'll get impeached, that's my prayer. Do we even want that?

Because if he gets impeached, then we get Pins. No, you don't get Pins. You don't get Mike Pence. I don't think because he lawyered up because whatever was happening with Mike Flynn, he had to know about it at the transition team. So then we have Paul Ryan. Who I still prefer because he can spell right on a tweet. And I don't like Paul Ryan, but what I will tell you is someone who came from the Hill

at a time when Republicans and Democrats could at least talk to each other and find some type of common ground, find some way to negotiate. I would prefer someone who's got some type of sense. Jesus Christ. It's so bad that even Paul Ryan is. No, let me tell you how bad it is. I want to take a selfie with George W. Bush. That's how bad it is.

You're like, you wasn't that bad. Watching him at the Super Bowl and like, aw. But you know what? There's something to that too, because if we think about what happened in 2000 with that Florida recount, it all really started there. You cannot continue to rob people.

of their electoral power. You can't continue to say one person, one vote, and there's this electoral college system that, frankly, is rooted in slavery and think that over time people are going to be fine with that. We also, on the other hand, can't be low to sleep by that. Like, if a system doesn't work for us, and it is a democracy, we need to change it.

But which call do you make? It's like, you need to change that. No, it's not just which. There are several. Yeah, that's what happens when you built a nation on racism and oppression. Nothing is working. So what are effective, especially in terms of how easy it is to hack right now? By the way, what happened to Anonymous?

I know right. I heard Anonymous. Are they alive? I almost feel as though. What was Anonymous? Anonymous was like they were like a group of hackers. Hackers that were kind of on our side. They were like the occupied Wall Street of hackers.

Oh, okay. But I heard they got infiltrated by the feds though. Like the robot. Really? Yeah, I mean. Or maybe Vladimir took me now. Yeah, I was going to say. But what would, in 2017, what are effective voting options if...

No electoral college if we don't have it. Well, what would the idea, scenario of voting be for the times we live in now? Popular vote? Yeah, so no, I think popular vote would be ideal, but I think there's a middle road. and that would be proportional representation in the electoral college. It shouldn't be winner-take-all. That's not a one-person, one-vote strategy. And there's a nonprofit that's been pushing legislation through state legislatures.

You all know that's one of the ways that you can change the Constitution. And the legislation is very simple. It's just... Did not know that. I'm not going to lie. Because somebody out there is listening. They're like, I don't know. No, I did not know that.

Okay, that's good. Look up more information on the Internet. But basically, there's me. No, not for you. Wait a minute. I'm sorry. Shots fired. I'm just saying I'm not on

I don't have time to get in all that. I'll tell you when I'm shooting. It's been a long day. It was a couple big words. Listen, like, wait, okay. Any information that you think might be a little too lengthy, whatever. Just say it.

Okay. Trust me. We got time. So, no, I just think. Light is down to 42% approval. That's not true. She was doing it for the people. I was.

I did it for the culture. No, but I think that what they've done. is very good because they're pushing these measures through state legislatures that say proportional representation is how we should be utilizing the electoral college. It shouldn't be that if you won this state by 51% you get all of

the electoral college delegated. It doesn't make sense. Can I ask a question? How does he actually get impeached? I feel like how much crazy shit has to go on over the next year you would hope for him actually to get impeached? Can I just say that if this was Barack Obama, he would have been impeached? It would have been over.

100%. I guess. You know what I agree with Barack Obama, he wouldn't have made it to the goddamn ticket. Yo, when you said, when you were arguing with that dude did you didn't refuse to talk to about being a bigot or whatever? You were like, you were like if Obama had five baby mamas and Obama had did ungrad chicks coochies, white chicks coochies,

like this would never ever, that's just that. That's just the rude shit. I'm so irritated. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Fine. But how does Trump get impeached? I don't know.

I almost feel like someone will have to lose their life. But I don't even know that that's enough. And he told us that he said he could shoot somebody on Madison. The pee video. The pee video. The pee videos got a surface. I don't think that would work. Like R. Kelly? Okay. So can I ask you that that was.

And some dude from Podug, they'll be like, well, I wish she would have peed on me. True. Shots fired. Those were shots and shade at the same damn time. What is the process of impeachment? Like, do you know if you can't just break it down? Yeah, so that's not a breakdown. thing, but I'll try. I'll try. I think one of the things that's immediately before us is what's

happening with the special prosecutor. So if the president were to be fine to have broken the law, that's something that's impeachable. We still need the Congress to act on that. And I think the challenge for us is in normal times, Republicans and Democrats could lay party aside to do the right thing. So is Congress just turning a blind eye because they don't want the stain. They don't look bad on them. They don't want the stain of it's going to make Republicans look bad and we'll never be trusted again.

There's a good example of that. Paul Ryan said the other day, well, you know, he's new. Yes, he did. What are you talking about, Willis? Like, this dude is it, anyway, so the point is that there are several things that could be deemed impeachable offenses. And if he were to be found to have obstructed justice with FBI director Comey or something else surfaces, that's an impeachable offense.

I think Democrats would begin to really hunker down on calling for his impeachment. And Republicans would have to make a game time decision about doing the right thing. And right now that's been tough. Like even, for example, John McCain, who's normally deemed a Maverick, decided to take on Kamala Harris in the middle of her questions instead of Donald Trump. Yeah, what the fuck was that? white male privilege yeah I know and thank you that was just that was not just white

that was racist sex it was all the is in a row like however you can do that that was what Donald Trump is in essence though isn't he yeah sure every day on Twitter talking about Barack Obama colluding with the Russians instead of the facts with perfect grammar one thing that time when he said unprecedented though yeah not precedented

unprecedented it's like reading Mary J Blas dumb ass don't ever misunderstand that's the next my intelligence it was a Mary J. Bligeckhock can we not throw Mary under the best of my name? No, I love Mary

I love Mary I love me because Kendo did her wrong on the tweet yesterday. Talk about it. You see Kendoo clap back the other day though I saw that Was that new or old? That was new. That's new. That's BET new. He was tweeting during the

BET Awards. Trying to steal her joy. He went under her Instagram. He was like, yeah, he was like, yeah, you know. Oh. Well, because I praised the album. Ah, well, yeah. And, yeah.

The album is dope, though. But, yeah, he was like, yeah, I don't know why you chose to go public. Why you're doing this? Why are you doing? We should talk. Boy, good night. You missing the fame, boo. You missing it?

Mm-hmm. Man. No, he wants that bigger alimony check. Anyway, Donald Trump. So, as I was you're informed about all this. I love that. So, well, that leads to another question is, I heard that perhaps a movement or a migration to red states or red territories might be in order.

But will that really, for instance, what happened in Georgia? With the, with the, is that, will that be an effective solution? Like, will. More Democrats move to race states? Some of us have to, yeah, move to red. I'm not going back to Indiana. You know, here's the thing. What frustrates me is it doesn't even require mass migration.

Like, we have enough people. There are over 500,000 unregistered black folks in Georgia, unregistered voters. Oh? Yeah. We could change an election with 500,000 unregistered voters. Why do you think that is? I think that people feel like, rightfully so.

that over time, democracy for everyone else has not been democracy for us. That, like we just talked about, a system of racism and oppression doesn't serve them. A police department that shoots and kills rather than protects and serves. There's so many reasons why people don't feel like the system has worked for them. Nevertheless, it's the system we have. That's what we got. You know, until we work to perfect it, it's going to be the same broken mess. And so we're in, I think, a very dangerous cycle where we say,

well it hasn't worked for us so I'm not going to go work for it but it's never going to work for us unless we work for it we have to fix it and and some of that change comes internally like you know people are always like oh you should run for office you know but I'm like that's not my calling I'm happy to help other people figure out how to be equipped to run and all of that but people also have to lean into that idea and so often we don't and aren't you involved with a couple of packs that are raising young African-American like politicians one of my favorite um packs right now is collective pack founded by two friends Stephanie Brown James and Quentin James and they're doing marvelous work. They just have their first training of African American young folks who want to run for office at Howard University

last week doing great work. Doing great work. And so yes, I thought those are some of the ways that we can give back with our time, our talent, and our treasure. Another church analogy. Break down exactly what a PAC is and what it does. Sure. Political Action Committee is an entity that is charged with raising money

and it's not tied to any specific campaign per se. There are some entities that are direct to candidate or their leadership PACs. But a PAC is an entity that you stand up to raise money to help train people up to endorse candidates. But what's it really used for? What do you mean? Well, that's what it's supposed to be,

but how is it being, I wanted people to know how it's being abused. Oh, okay. Well, in some instances, there are a number of PACs, that are stood up, especially super PACs, that are just used to kind of farm out ads, advertisements, political ads. Coke Brothers. A lot of people cite the Coke Brothers and there in packs and stuff.

Well, and even if it's not affiliated with the Cokes, there are entities on the Democratic side of the aisle that use, frankly, just to be competitive. This Georgia race cost $50 million. You know, and a lot of times. Are there power brokers and Democrats? Because besides Bill, Bill. Marr, dare I say it. He gives this obligatory $2 million a year in Spilberg and Harvey. Hollywood.

Harvey Weinstein does his little $5 million. Where are our Cook brothers? Who's the most powerful Democrat? I think George Soros is one. What's the other guy's name that's involved in kind of green energy? I can't think of his name right now. But there are some. I didn't know that.

I thought all everyone looked like Smithers and Miss. and Mr. Burns won. They're definitely more on the Republican side of the aisle. But the other problem that we have is that too often money spent in races or even with political action committees are used on vendors. And they're vendors who don't know how to reach. We talked about that 500,000 cohort in Georgia. If you're hiring all white vendors, all white male vendors who all work together on the same campaign, you're not reaching a new audience. You're reaching the same people.

That's why you can't win. when you look at the candidate recruitment strategy, whether it's at the D-Triple-C, which is the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, there's a Senate version of that, you know, there's the Democratic Governors Association, you're not looking at black and brown and Asian candidates who can run not just in congressional districts, but also statewide. I have a good friend of mine who's running for governor in Florida, Andrew Gillum, who is a mayor of Tallahassee right now. on the leaked email from Hillary Clinton's campaign was on the short list for a potential VP pick.

It's being slept on right now by DGA and others. And this is a young black guy that's doing things completely different. Does he have a chance? I mean, Florida. He does have a chance. He raised a million dollars in the first three months of his campaign. God, okay. Absolutely.

Say his name again so everybody can. Andrew Gillum. Thank you. Okay. Andrew Gillum. So, okay. So that leads me to the question of how do you reach people? Now, I'll say that a lot of my political involvement came at sort of like the tail end of 2007 back when there was a glimmer of hope that, oh, God, okay, this could really happen for us.

And, of course, you know, Obama also benefited from really using the internet to his advantage and reaching people. so now as we stand 10 years later I get a lot of panic emails from Nancy Pelosi and you know like just the usual characters and you know a lot of times it's just like I feel guilty for marketing this spam because I do nevertheless you know but you see you see the subject line is Nancy Pelosi we need you a mirror

No, that was like 2013. That was just like, nigga, I'm outside. Nick, I'm cooking up the coach fans I can't. Wait, one Pelosi email got me good. And I was just like, all right, let me give my credit. And I did it again. And already it was like, well, you're already a monthly contributor. Like, I didn't realize like, Jesus Christ, I'm already a monthly.

Right, right, right. Oh, you got to direct, like, the withdrawal. What if they weren't even, what if you weren't monthly and they just told you that that would be funny? I know, but still. Well, that also leads to it's, this might be blasphemous. Say it. Do you feel that we might need a change in? Leadership?

Yes. So here's what I will tell you. she as a leader? She's been very effective. The reason why Nancy Pelosi is still the Democratic leader is because she knows how to raise money better than anybody else. And that's a money-raising job. Maybe it shouldn't be, but that's what it is right now. What I'll tell you is there are several things that we need, and that is not the top of where I would start.

Right. Just for an example, the DNC just had kind of a massive overall. after the campaign. We know that Donna Brazil was filling in as an interim chair. Just like completely crushed it. She did so much that people don't know, but just wait. I'm sure she will release a book. And seriously.

And then now you have Tom Perez, who's heading up the DNC. My friend Michael Blake, who's a vice chair at the DNC, two people of color at the top. And before Donna Brazile, we hadn't had that since Ron Brown? You know, like, I mean, it's been, it's been a wild, right? And of course, Donna Brazile had been vice chair, but not at the top. So my thing to you would be, we first need to ensure that the party writ large is okay. Who are the state party chairs? How are they serving the communities that they're supposed to be, you know, this big tent, this idea of a big tent.

How is the tent enlarging under these state parties' chairs leadership? Nancy Pelosi is in politics we have a messaging strategy called the boogeyman strategy right it's the boogeyman approach Nancy Pelosi is the boogeyman and the reason why they went back to that approach most recently in the special election in Georgia

is because it worked when Michael Steele was chairman of the RNC they had the fire Pelosi pins it worked very well part of what you should interpret from that is that more than anything else in this country where people really bond is the first fear of women in leadership. It's not about, I'm just being honest with you.

It's not about Nancy Pelosi and the job she's doing. We could ask all these people why we should get rid of Nancy Pelosi and they wouldn't be able to give you a reason. Because she'd been there a long time. Okay, so was Harry Reid until he just retired. So was everybody else in Democratic leadership. Okay. So what is the real issue?

And I think the real issue is she's this liberal, this Uber liberal from California, and she's a woman. And that is partially for Hillary Clinton, the woman issue was her big problem. People couldn't understand why evangelicals during the campaign were flocking towards Coochie Grabbing Donald Trump. And the reason for that is, more than anything else in the church, you're taught that a woman cannot be the head of a household. She definitely ain't about to be your pastor.

And so she is not going to be your commander-in-chief. So Nancy Pelosi at the top of the house scares people. And to some of them is like it's out of voice. order, you know, like a woman is not supposed to have that role. We're so ass backwards in this country. But anyway, I'm just telling you, I don't, I wouldn't mind if Nancy Pelosi decided to retire. I just did not for it on those things. Like, what is the real reason why they're pushing for her retirement when they literally don't know the role of a Democratic leader? Aren't you talking about the DNC and figuring out how to help us identify who we really are?

Why are we not talking about, you know, the fact that the white working class issues are the same as black and brown and Asian folks working class issues. Those are the issues we should be focused on not damn Nancy Pelosi. So when you speak of they in wanting Nancy Pelosi out of there, are you speaking of fellow Democrats?

There are some. I think there are a few who, for example, you know, Tim Ryan ran against her in the leadership elections this time. Of course Tim Ryan goes on air on, I think it was Don Lemon Show last week, was like, yeah, we need change. Of course you said it's self-serving.

You want to be the change. Yeah, you want to be the change. And how much is, how much, How much change would that be to go back to a white man in leadership? Right. Like, she to last. So, I don't know. To me, it's like, it's time for us to shake up how we perceive leadership. I would love to see more people of color in those roles.

But that's not it, you know. And I don't think that Nancy Pelosi always gets it right, but I don't think the answer is to put another white man in charge. Wow. And you said it. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep.

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What I want to know is with entertainers, usually seen as the go-to. I mean, we now live in a time in which, you know, little Yadi might have more. Excuse me. Wow, the collective Oh, Bill just ticked. The collective eyebrow. Shots fired. About to do a Joe button.

Walk off on this bitch. Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe. How are you fucking? If I, if I, the collective eyebrow look at me was like, whoof. That level.

But, I mean, this is where we are as where our kids are or where we are, where, you know, entertainers have more collateral and say. then someone with or perceived as someone would sense. So that said, how can we, how do we utilize those who are listened to? Is there going to have to be a reach across the aisle? How do we shut up Lil Wayne just in case?

Oh, shit. I don't even think he's a factor anymore. I mean, every once and again, I mean, it happens. Yeah, but his time was. 10 years ago. Like now it's it's, it's,

old way. Dram. It's drama. It's drama. Straight up, yes. Migos could say Get your bad boogey ass to vote.

It's up to you, but will they? They might, they might, they might. Well, look now. Jay Z's new direction with 444

is leaning politically heavier than he's ever, ever, ever been. how effective will that be as far as getting people? Because, you know, again, it's who do they call on to get people to the polls? Hillary called on Gaga, called on Katie Perry, called on...

Jay Z and Beyonce. Well, maybe it didn't work. Actually, no, to be fair, it did work. But again, it's... But again, like, the numbers of the 2016 election are still up in the air because in the perfect world, did she win? We don't know.

Popular vote. Right. So, thus, how effective is that? Well, I want to push back on that idea a little bit. I think that there was a time,

you know, in particular, in 2008, where entertainers had all the gravitas to push every GOTV, get out the vote, initiative and people did rely on them. And then Twitter happened. And then Instagram happened. And then

Snapchat happened. And what has happened is platforms like these have democratized voices so that you don't necessarily have to be Jay-Z or Beyonce or Gaga to mobilize audiences. You can mobilize your own. And while it may not be on the same level, there are still folks that have millions of followers for drawing on a mean eyebrow, you know, on YouTube. And so I think that we, I'm being honest. So, and literally a mean eyebrow too. Anyway, I digress. But the point is, I don't know that that really works as much anymore. And I think that we have to be far more creative at engagement. And what that probably really means is that by the time you're standing up a campaign and you are developing your public engagement and your social impact initiatives, it's too late.

There's something, and this takes me back full circle to the point I was raising about party chairs on the ground, you have to have almost a system like we talk so much about community policing where it's just real relationships with folks. You just have to have real relationships with folks and people feel like you represent their interests and not feeling like, oh, you went to my church and waved the fan or shook the tambourine or even, you know, rock on beat with the tennis section, like you did more than that and it wasn't just two weeks before an election. Like, people know now.

You know what I'm saying? So I think that influencers have a role, but they aren't anywhere near as influential as they were in 08 because of these other platforms. Well, could that grassroots, I'm glad you brought that up because, you know, I for one, I believe that like my personal life goal at least where I am now in my career or my monetary level I mean my personal life goal

where I am right now if war all to end is I mean can I effectively affect the lives of 50 people personally push them in the direction which people don't you know a lot of people have this this whole the Michael Jackson

you know heal the world save the world you know you're thinking of millions of people whereas you know you see that

Barack's campaign start off on a grassroots level which you know people scoffed at like well what good is grassroots doing but how

how does the grassroots level how effective will that be and will we get there in time for the midterms or 2020

because I do feel as though the grassroots level has to start. Sure. Starts with a community. Starts with a block. Absolutely. Is Alderman still a thing? Yeah. Ask Grimefest.

He's an Alderman. He ran for Alderman. He didn't win, but he ran. Oh, God. Yeah, he ran. He lost for Alderman. He was running against, he would be a great person to have on the show. But he was running against, like, the incumbent.

It was like this cop guy that, like. In Chicago? In Chicago, yeah. Yeah, he lost. What was the Alderman on Good Times? Alderman. Alderman James? It was Alderman James.

I think it was Alderman James. We can't even get. Can't even get. Without you two nerd now. Come on, man. That's hilarious. I think it was Alderman. What is it? Okay.

What is the Alderman's job? Is that like slightly above block captain or? Oh my God. Look it up on Wikipedia. A. Rye. Out. What happened? I'm out.

Fold already? I personally don't know. You don't have one probably maybe. You don't have one probably. But I think here I think is the point. We can't afford not to engage in grassroots level advocacy. And the point that you're raising, I think, is one that's really important. We don't know the true impact of what Barack Obama did to mobilize people in 2007 and 2008 via online platforms.

You could go and set up a house meeting. on his website. Hillary Clinton didn't do any of that, you know. And I think that it was just different. It's not that she didn't do any of that. She didn't do it as in depth. She didn't personally go into it in as many communities. Yeah, she ran kind of a tone deaf campaign, in my opinion.

I mean, I thought she, you know, I thought she was going to win and kind of felt like, right? I think it was some of that, some of like entitlement, but it was just, yeah, when you whipping and nay-neying on the show, I was like, this is not going to end well. She went in a-n-ne-n-ne? She did the N-N-N-N-N-A? Bill Clinton was playing on Arsenio Hall. But, I mean, but he actually was playing it good. Not like her name-N-N-N-A-Beg.

Yeah, it wasn't crisp. It wasn't the crisp N-N-N-A. I would rather. It looked patronizing. Be whipping and N-N-N-A and carrying hot sauce in her bag than have our... Well, I mean, she really does carry hot sauce in her bag. But I will say this, I would rather have her any day. Oh, yeah.

And what you all deem as tone-deaf. than what we have right now. She looks like Mary, the mother of Jesus right now compared to that. So anyway, the only point that I'm raising to you is we can't afford to find out what happens if we don't, right? Like to your point about the midterms, 2018 is right around the corner. It is creeping. I mean, we are halfway through this year.

Do you have hopes of something happening in 2018? No. Honestly, not right now. Could we get some chairs? Could we turn it over? Is it just more of the same? potentially get the house with miracles. The challenge that we have is there's something called a redistricting process that happened.

And in the last redistricting process, in most states, they drew these congressional districts very conservatively. And what they did far better than us is they were strategically targeting state legislatures to run for seats and win. And so we hold very few state legislatures. We hold very few governorships. Those are the entities that construct those state lines in the redistricting process. Can I ask questions since you're kind of leading into this and it's sort of a parallel to, I guess, mainly talking about federal politics here tonight, right? And I think we've all known and been taught for a long time that as an individual has the most effect in local politics. And it seems like in order of the things that we're,

We're obsessed with in politics. Everybody's obsessed with federal politics where they have the least amount of say. And some interest in state politics of who's the governor and who's the. And then local politics, nobody gives a shit at all. Like you don't know who's running for, you know. What's an alderman? Right. Like why, you know, we know for a fact we should be much, you know, it should be, like you said,

ass backwards. This seems ass backwards to me, like where people. obsessions in politics lie. So, and I think that part of this is, you know, not only is it our responsibility, but I would say it's the responsibility of the media. How often do you turn on the local news and hear about what's going on in a city council meeting or, you know, in a city council hearing if it's not a big vote coming up, like a huge It's not a glamour position.

Or a fight or a shooting at the council. Or that. St. Louis, this happens. Yeah, just like Compton. DJ Quick said it. So I think the point is you just never know anything that's going on on the local level, you know, unless you get to the B section in your newspaper and who reads newspapers anymore. You can go to Twitter and find your headlines and click on that article.

So I think the responsibility is in part on the media. But as a result, again, going back to the idea of being taxpayers, we have to figure out how to go and get that information. And it's frustrating and really hard to encourage people to do that. day and age where everything comes to you. Like, you don't have to go get your news. You get an alert on your phone. So how do you tell people in a space where attention spans are short and everything comes to them to go out and get it?

It's hard. And I don't really know the answer to this. I also just said this at the panel I was on for BT Genius Talks. I am truly, I think a great example of a hypocrite in this space. I very rarely know anything about what's happening on the local level. politically and it's horrible. If it wasn't for my dad giving me his filibuster run down on the phone at night, even at home in Seattle, I just wouldn't know because I'm not as interested in it. And I know it impacts my everyday life a lot more. We talk about there's just another shooting death in

Seattle by the police department, Charlene Lyles. You know, that is something that I care about. And to my credit, I tweeted about one of my good friends who's a city council member. so she's probably ready to choke me. She hears this. Lorena Gonzalez in Seattle who's holding a town hall meeting about what happened in that shooting death.

And very rarely do you see things like that happening where a city councilman is like, I know we're culpable, we have a problem, let's come and talk about it. That's a big thing because we don't ever feel hurt

and that's why you see some of those protest actions happening because people are like, we pay y'all and you're still killing us. So full circle. I do need to do a lot more myself, but I talk about what I know

because that's where I worked and that's what I'm most interested in. But that's not right. I meant in general, it seems like everybody's much more interested. No, no, no, I agree. I was just using my own hypocrisy as an example. My question for you is, like,

what are reputable news sources for you? Because we were joking earlier about a movie and stuff, but real rap. I mean, that's kind of, it's just in the age we live in of social media where information flies fast and disinformation and misinformation flies even faster.

After a while, I mean, I open my Twitter feed and I'm just like, bullshit, bullshit, my line, bullshit. You know what I mean? It's just like. Who are you following? Well, I mean, I follow seeing it and I follow all the big, you know, I mean, I try to get, quote unquote, both sides. But after a while, it just is a lot of just words, words, words.

You don't need both sides. Because at this point, it's a human decency issue, right? Like this is not a partisan issue where you're just seeing it from another lens. It literally is about, you know, morality. at this point on the other side of the aisle. Who are your five go to? Periodicals or whatever. I would say New York Times, CNN, L.A. Times,

Seattle Times, because I'm from there. You're local. Yeah. I like the root. What else? Political for Hill News. They got to get their app together. Oh, the roots.

Anyway. All right. That's fair, too. But as soon as we get to favorite groups in the best live show, we'll talk about the roots. But, yeah, the route. And then I also, I said the political, the Hill. What else? Washington Post.

Washington Post is also a good one. But yeah, I normally, those are my go-toes. Yo, you mentioned, I mean, you mentioned your phone getting hacked. But have you, you're very, we all know you're very vocal. I know you hold back, but it doesn't seem like it on TV. Have you run in the situations where you've been threatening that way, in some way? Yeah, absolutely. there was one, I only had, thank God, I've only had one death threat situation that had to be reported.

And several people, even on my feed also reported it, not just to Twitter, but like to the feds. Like, hey, this seems like a legitimate issue. And actually, it happened while I was getting off the plane in St. Louis. We talked about St. Louis earlier. So, yeah, I think that there are definitely some legitimate issues. And I think regardless of how outspoken I've been, I've not been threatened at any degree or at any level. the same of some of my friends who are really doing the on-the-ground activist work. So, activist work.

What is your view or your take on where activism stands now? Do we need a figurehead? Do we need a Malcolm? Do we need a Martin? Do we need a... Do we have one? And we just don't know? No, I think that is different.

I don't know if people are vying for a position, but, you know... My name is sugar. But as far as not non-Washington politics, I mean, you know, the ongoing problem of shooting unarmed people is still, you know, we're, as far as far as where we are today, what is your view on activism? And it's participants, mainly those. those that are, you know, saying that they've started this movement or that sort of thing. I really don't care about the who started what discussion. I am grateful for the work of the women who founded the hashtag, the Black Lives Matter hashtag, Alicia and Opel and Patrice, as I'm equally grateful to, you know, the many contributions to that movement of Dorey and Brittany and Sam.

and Janetta. I am also even more grateful to the fact that, or of the fact that it's been young people. We wouldn't have been talking about criminal justice reform and mass incarceration in the 2016 campaign if it wasn't for the work of young activists. When I think about the many ways in which we're often challenged and by us, I mean black organizations,

our traditional civil rights organizations, to provide data and metrics for why we deserve grant money. And then I think about what DeRay and Brittany and Sam have done with Campaign Zero, showing you the data on the number of black and brown people who've been killed at the hands of police or have been brutalized at the hands of police. All of that work matters. And I think the sooner that people can stop worrying about, you know, whether or not there needs to be ahead or is there ahead and who's our new Martin.

Merton or who's our new Malcolm and just focuses on the fact that the work is getting done and we need all of these people and everyone has a role to play and it's not a competition. And the moment that we get sidetracked on the competition, that's the moment where another black or brown person dies. You know, we just can't afford to have those types of silos. I think about, you know, the work of the Women's March that Jeney Ingram and Tamika Mallory and Linda Sarsour and Carmen Perez all were a part of. and the backlash they got from Black and Brown Women who said, why are you working with white feminists? Because traditionally they step on us and on our issues. Well, at what point do we say,

I'm going to deal with that in a little bit, but let's stand together on this one thing. I'm sitting here so that you have a voice at this table. Let's just get through this part. I think that we just have too much on the line to not figure out ways to work together. That might be a slippery slope, though, because what do we see?

say if let's say the CEO of Pepsi visits Trump's White House I think it's different. I think is, and the reason why I think is different is because Donald Trump invites people to the White House for photo

opportunities, not to create real change. And I think the moment you go and you sit at a table and you see that there's no intention on your voice being heard, you played yourself. That's totally different. And I can tell you. So that selfie or that photo he took with the, the HBCU presidents where there's 9,000 of them in the room and Kelly Ann Conway is on her knees on the couch.

That one that's the one you're talking about. It looked like a porn hub screenshot. Yeah, that was a little with Houston 500. Yeah, they played themselves. They played themselves. Oh, my God. That's what it looked like. I'm sorry.

I heard. Are those porn references? No, no, they're not porn references. I don't know. No. Absolutely not what's. So ever, lie you. Yeah, so you, I mean, in their eyes, did they figure that, oh, we two are trying to get a seat at the table and?

Well, and they got played because what happened was they were told that they were going to have a sit-down meeting with Donald Trump and instead were ushered into the Oval Office where it is far too small for that many college presidents to go in there. For a photo opportunity, they were never talked to by the president. Instead, he sent his little celebrity apprentice into, to talk to them. Omarosa. How do you feel about her? I don't, I have no love. Did that, that clip ever come out? No love for hoes.

No love. No love. Especially after, I don't know if you all saw, but she sent a letter to the Congressional Black Caucus. The honorable omarosa? No, no, that ain't even the worst part because we know she's not honorable. Number one, who signs, when you're the honorer. You don't have to sign your letter the honorable. Like people know to send you a letter that says that.

So also, you know, not just in law school, but I think even in high school you learn where an address block goes on the letter. Cedric Richmond's address block was at the bottom of the letter. Yeah, good night. Well, she could be from the Caribbean. I've gotten some letters. Come on, son. Somebody from Washington, D.C.

She's from Washington, D.C. Sorry. D. Somebody said to check that. And then the bottom line is, After she was denied, she went on Twitter and said, One Monkey doesn't stop, don't stop no show. So are you saying, wait, so the story is Amarosa got denied into the Black Caucus

Wheatessen? Oh, no, that was never going to happen. She invited them on behalf of Donald Trump to come back to the White House for a meeting. The first time they went, they didn't take the whole CBC because it didn't merit the entire CBC's time. Congressman Richmond, who's the chair of the caucus, went in with just the executive committee, which is standard. We did it under Barack Obama's administration.

And they took in a white page. that said here are, here's 130 pages of issues that you could be working on that would help to advance the black community. So when you ask us, what in the hell do we have to lose, Exhibit A, Sucker. And that's what they did. And so she invited them back because that wasn't enough attention for her and said, why don't all of you come back so they could try to get this photo op? And you played yourself because we know who you are and what you stand for.

Good night. Honorable. What is her? Not so honorable. Not at all. What's her. She's an consultant. Without.

I feel like she might sit outside at a desk at the White House. What was told to her? So who would she be in House of Cars? Which character would be? She would be not on camera. She'd be walking past, right? She would be like the person, the staffer who oversees the intern. I'm not sure.

Not Fred. No, Fred. Wait, Freddy. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But then Freddie King. He owned a restaurant first.

Yeah, but he was in that White House. I'm not mad at her. Freddie made it to the wild. Freddie made it to the wild. And Fred said, fuck you. Listen. Listen, I understand. I wouldn't even give her Freddy

because Freddie got more honored than she'll ever be able to. He does. Yeah, he did. But I just don't to tell you all this in case you missed it to all the listeners. The reason why I treat her so bad is because not only is she the devil, but she also, before she was all on Donald Trump's bandwagon, she was doing Hillary Clinton. There's photo evidence.

Look it up online. Hillary Clinton, fundraisers, there was a super pack that was established before Hillary Clinton announced called Ready for Hillary. Omarosa was ready for Hillary. She worked in the Clinton White House. Yeah. Shout us to Hans. Turn, turn, coat.

We don't do, yeah, we don't do that. Wow. We don't do that. Wait, I forgot my question. The honorable. It's funny, because I've seen a couple of black people in that White House and that over office. They're always the one to pushing their reporters out, like a couple weird.

It is weird. Yeah, Angela Mitchell. She tried to compare herself to Valerie Jarrett. Girl, if you ever listen to this, you won't ever be Valerie Jarrett. That ain't right. That ain't right. That ain't right. Valerie Jarrett, child.

I'm Valerie Jarrett to Donald Trump. What? What? Yes. Exactly. Spell Valerie Jarrett. Anyway. How'd y'all get me down that track?

Am I. Because this is close. Welcome to the Supreme. Yeah, we go down right. I cannot stand her. Did that clip ever come out? Which clip? The clip.

What clip? Or the one you sent me? You sound like you're saying something crazy. Oh, no, no, no. From the NAN thing? Yeah. So I don't know. I think they put it on a couple of sites.

National Action Network. They had a women's luncheon, an empowerment women's luncheon, and she spoke, I don't know who. Rev, I love you so much, but I don't know who thought that was going to be a good idea to have Omarosa speak at the beginning of this lunch. And she got up there and tried to lie to my cousin,

so I had to correct the record. I didn't even do my acceptance speech. I just had to come for her. And so that's what happened. Trump's Apprentice. I didn't even call her by name, just Trump's Apprentice. Did she just walk out after? No, so she actually walked out.

Rev kind of got her, and then she walked out after that. So I was like, well, somebody show her the video, because I'm about to show her to video. So y'all never been in each other's life. Yeah. They were trying to put her in pictures with me that day. I was like, I'm not taking pictures with her. That flies against everything I stand for.

You must have a list of people that, like, not only pictures, I will not engage in conversation. It's not that long, though. There are people on CNN who are Trump supporters who I actually like, you know. But I just don't like when people are, you know, just blatant liars, just, you know, you switch and you contort and you just do whatever's convenient. When you're clearly an opportunistic person, I just don't. I can't rock with you. How many times have you been offered your own show on one of these networks? I'm sorry.

Yeah, that's my next question. It was. Why do you not have your own show? Who said I won't have my own show? Oh! My exclusive. Well, I was going to say... I have a podcast coming out.

When... Okay, well, yes. I got to ask you. When Melissa Harris Perry left her... She didn't leave. Yeah. She didn't leave. When she got pushed out.

She was escorted. Yeah. When she... When her post was vacated by my employer. Oh, okay. Okay, got you, got you. All right. All right.

Did you get a phone call? Like, would you like your own show? No. Are people calling you? So, yes, people are calling me. I will say that there was not a better person that could have taken that morning slot than Joy Reed. I think Joy has been fun. I was devastated when her daily show.

was canceled. And I think that she has, like, she kills it. She's better than so many people on so many networks. They put us on the weekends. Yeah. And, and, but I think that she could easily, like we see her all the time filling in for some of the other daily shows. She's phenomenal. But yes, I think that I, you know, talk about things in a certain way. And I will definitely be doing something. But, yes, people are calling. You need to be on cable. No, she needs to be able to cook. Your ambiguity right now. tells me there's something. Move over Bill Marr.

No. No, I just... No, he wasn't too far now. 40%. But weren't you proud of the moment? Can we ask that question about Simone real quick? That was a dope moment. Can I just say that moment, we all talking about the N-word follow-up or whatever.

Of course, everybody's talking about Ice Cube. Everybody talked about Dr. Dyson. But Simone Sanders. Yes. She had a great moment. And the thing that people don't understand is Simone was booked to go on the show before that inward moment happened. and she did phenomenally well. So I was definitely cheering her on,

and I was so glad that she was there to kind of speak out, not just for black people and educating on the N-word, but also black women. Yeah. Sorry. No, no, it's... It's your show, too. It is your show, Maya.

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Life 12 and TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. I think, well, you about to ask something on pay me? Yeah. Go ahead, Bill. You were saying that you're friends with some Trump supporters. When I meet someone and learn that they're Trump supporter, I have a really hard time talking to them. I understand.

Like, I can't. I understand that. Because I don't understand how they could vote for someone that's that dumb. That's how I feel about that. I don't think anybody at this table is Trump supporter, so I hope not, because I'll be weird at this particular moment. But, I mean, you know what I'm saying? Actually, Bill.

No, I'm pleased. So I can't talk to them about politics. What I have worked really hard on doing is understanding who they are as human beings. Like, why and the what? And sometimes it is. You can't separate that. I mean, can you separate that? No, sometimes it's really hard.

But I think one good example is on CNN, Jeffrey Lord, who I'm often, like, if we're on together, like, are you serious? Did you really just say? Or whatever. every night when Jeffrey leaves CNN, he is driving home back to Pennsylvania to take care of his mother who has dementia. And to me, that's something that's very personal because my grandmother passed away with Alzheimer's a couple years ago. And I know how hard that work is. I know how hard it was for my dad and his sisters and his brothers. It was really, really tough.

And then making the decision to put my grandmother in a home where I was like, she has a mouth like mine. They're going to kill her. And fortunately, they didn't. They ended up actually really, really loving her. But I just know that. And so I know that about him. And that means that somewhere beyond the Trump propaganda, right, there's a heart of someone who's truly compassionate and really loves his family.

And so there are things like that that I have to kind of latch on to and just be hopeful about. With the KKK, they love their family too. Yeah, I ain't checking for the KKK. They love him? I don't think he's the KKK. You talked about your dad and how he was an activist. Was your mother politically active as well? Is.

My dad still has a bullhorn in his trunk. We just did a, in real life, we just did a 75th surprise birthday party for him at the beginning of June. And the props at the photo booths, like we had his old MLK signs and the bullhorn was made a very prominent appearance at the party. So he's really serious about it. My mom was, is not. the same type of activist as my dad. She is a retired college administrator, but she was on

affirmative action commissions and studying how students of color learned and very active in multicultural education on her campus. So very much so. One of my favorite pictures that my childhood, Dennis found and got a blown up for my parents for my dad's birthday actually was my parents marching side by side. It's a great picture. It's my cover photo on Facebook right now. I was like, look at Black Love happening. That's wonderful. And my dad had on a bad suede coat too. I was like, this dude, stayed styling in a march, but okay.

So in the idea of of being politically active, what would your message be to people, especially in my field of entertainment? What are effective

ways for us to get involved? And what I say is that the Harry Belafonte method where he, in the 60s routinely funded, you know, marches and hotels and bail money, that sort of thing. I see, I feel as though ever since the Dixie Chicks Bush, Natalie Mines, criticizing Bush in 2003 for the war and how that affected their their money, their

income. You kind of seeing a quiet apprehensive apolitical view from a lot of entertainers. I, for one, thought, oh, this war is really going to bring on, you know. What's going on type?

Yeah, politically motivated, you know, like a more conscious from our opposite and it rendered them indifferent and really to where we are now like just cold getting dumb so and you know a lot of

people would you know feel as though they might have something to lose I mean not in the case of a football player Capranic the guy that didn't vote in the last election don't do that don't do it

don't do that Sorry. My man. So just as an example of that, though, I think it's important for us to understand that where we are siloed or we are left standing as individuals, we're easier to target and to strike and to take out. If we stand as a collective unified group NFL players that know the national anthem doesn't speak for us and shouldn't NFL players that know that black lives matter and we should stand for something. You know, it shouldn't have just been Colin. And that is why it was so easy for them to take him out. I think, you know, using your art to convey a certain message is important.

But I think that there's something that we as a collective, the people have to do to support that art. I think about Jay-Z, the song, Spiritual. How well did that do? And think about what it was really about. The song Spiritual. I'm like, what? He had a song called Spirit. Wait.

If you guys just see Fonte and Blasbill's eyebrow. Listen to it. Listen to it. What? I'm writing it down. It's just cause spiritual. And I'm the biggest hope supporter ever. Wait a minute.

You've done the unthinkable is to name a song that these two morons have never heard of. Wait, it was a title exclusive, wasn't it? I don't care. It's never happened. It's fucking here we've been doing this. I'm looking for it right now. Oh, God. Hope, I feel you.

Like a title. Hoves released someone he was 12 and no one ever heard, but they've heard it. So all I'm saying to you is, or you can look at, T.I. released this mini doc on BET, us or else.

And of course, the corresponding album, how well did those things do? You know, when we say that we need our artists to be conscious and woke and to be pushing this material and, you know, touting these messages, how do we support them when they're doing that? I think that's just lip service.

I think that's just, from, in my opinion, like, when people talk about, quote-unquote, conscious hip-hop or when they say they want that from artists, I think it's very much like your grocery cart. It's like everybody say they want to eat vegetables, but that shit don't never make it today. No, they just don't want it from everybody. They want it from chance. They just don't want to be everybody. You guys taking a consideration of the record labels don't want to put in the extra work to actually figure out how it's to market that kind of material.

But then, too, but for me, like, I mean, and I'm just using him as example. Like, do I really want to hear a conscious record, quote-unquote, from T. I mean I mean but a lot of his stuff has been I mean it has It's hard when he got a reality show But do you really want to hear another T.R.R. I don't know.

All the other shit that he wraps about on all those other records. He raps about that shit really well. I mean I'm just saying You can listen to like Pick 20 You can get yeah rubber band man

Whatever right It's all the same shit So if he wants to rhyme about something else Then you should be And if he's the thing I guess more My point is

If he wants to do that then absolutely let them do it. But I think there's a problem and kind of what back with everything. So you feel like it's insincere if... Yeah, like, don't make niggas out to be more than what they are. Like when, you know, when they went to... Aren't niggas more than one thing?

What? No what I'm saying? Now I feel like we're getting to it. Now we're getting into the conversation. Like when Ferguson happened, when Mike Brown happened and everybody was like, oh, Nelly need to come and speak. Nellie need to come and I was just like, okay. And then Nellie spoke.

And it was just like... And then people started clowning. Like, dude, that ain't his, maybe that's not his medium. But at least he tried, because that is his community. That is, I mean, he's the most famous, famous emcee to come out. But you, yeah, but I don't be with the people, walk with the people. But not necessarily. I don't think everyone has to be, I have a dream.

Right. Yeah, they're trying to put niggers on. But Jay Cole, you don't stop what you doing. But I think the reality of it is we shouldn't, we shouldn't necessarily try to control them if that's what they feel like they should be expressing. I also think that we should try to be supportive of it. If we're saying that nobody's hearing us and we're not, you know, the voices that are talking about it aren't loud enough. And then once those voices are talking about it, we don't support it.

That's a problem. If we don't like how they're expressing it, then we can offer, you know, criticism, but at least try to hear them out. And then the other piece I would say is there are artists who are very conscious, who would still say, you know, there's stuff about this whole stuff that I don't know enough about. And I want to learn more before I stepped out there. And I think that it's up to those of us who are very concerned. do no more to help educate the masses period regardless of if they have a platform or not. They usually got whack pizza. What does this happen?

Like you got to make. This is real life, Angel. This is what people think of right. Yeah, it's like it's got to be a jet. Like, I guess that's to me because we were having this conversation early the role of, you know, entertainers, quote unquote, as activists. To me, that's just, it gets really nebulous because it's just like, sugar helps medicine go down.

Yeah, it's like, dude, just do what you do. You know what I'm saying? Like, do what you do at the best at what you do. I don't need artists to quote unquote inspire me by trying to inspire you I think most people I don't think that's true I think there's not people

I think bad and booji will get more niggas to work than damn less saved work I mean black people This week infante hates inspirational music I'm saying You're saying that Migo's doing a benefit concert that could raise money for

cause blah blah blah blah blah is more effective than them doing the attention to the million. But everybody doesn't have to do the same thing. Every artist doesn't have to do the same thing. Their contribution may not look like Harry Belafonte. Maybe there is somebody that can bring a stage show to Broadway and disrupt culture just on how we see ourselves thinking about Hamilton. Like there are so many ways that we can disrupt that don't have to be, you know.

The same way. And that's my point. But also, Jay-Z is setting a little standard too that I think is kind of, a cool because he's been doing things lately and I don't give him props usually but I'm just saying Bill's giving us the side out right now you don't like the bail thing so like you didn't feel about the bet you didn't like oh I'm with him bailing out bads no no I'm just like Jay Z's not the first person to do this jZ was a part of the dream defenders doing that dream defenders started doing that with mothers who were incarcerated on mother's day and

helping them get out of jail so he actually supported organizations doing that work I think it's great he also helped to bail folks out during the Ferguson protest Yeah, that helps That helps But I think it has to A lot of it has to happen Like, you know, Like during Vietnam

Right, it was like Bob Dylan was writing this music And that era It was it was more universal It was everybody Doing it from this People also not all up in the press Being like,

Yo, I did this, I did that I did that Yeah, he's not, you're right So like nobody really's know what any of these cats Are doing, just do the shit And If I were to tell you all, I don't care

I don't care what you did I do No, no, not me You're right for Alderman? I'm just saying, I don't care what you do What you're going to do just do it and just do something and don't try to get the love for it just do it true because

you know it's the right thing you're prospered off this community give it back something but I agree give it back but give it back in the way that best fits you like I just my problem is just trying to make everybody you know a Malcolm or Martin what it's just like dude like that just ain't your calling man like give it the best do the best you and and be true in that like don't try to make somebody that ain't a speaker or whatever don't try to make them into something that they're not. That's all I'm saying. Where's jaw? Yo, for real.

It's, yeah, it becomes a where's a where's jaw woke off moment where everybody's trying to show how woke they are. And it's like, all y'all y'all nigs need to go back to sleep. Oh, Lord. Angela, this is Fonte. And now, he's from Carolina

and some sort of. He don't like slavery shows neither. But he loved black women. It's a weird, you know, we love him. I don't like slavery shows. We're also a hip-hop generation in midlife crisis right now also. Let's admit that. Who are what?

I feel like us as a first generation of hip-hop, we're also under mid-life crisis because, you know, I mean, we're, we don't recognize it no more. Yeah, we don't recognize it anymore. And our time. Yeah, that shit looked like Pokemon. He did. I was like, who was these niggins? The freshman covers, yeah. I was like, nah, bro.

P.S. just a shameless plug. It wasn't nothing like that essence cover with all those ladies, like Angela Raj. That was a beautiful cover. Like, that essence cover. It was an honor to be a part of it. What's this sports entertainment lawyer story? Why didn't that happen?

So, the short version is I... Extended dance version. To this day, I love the movie Jerry McGuire. Like, I absolutely love. And so I was like, I want to be a sports entertainment lawyer. And I told my pastor, who's also my goddad, I was like, this is really what I want to do. So he was like, okay, cool. So we had like some Seahawks players that went to my church at the time.

And so one of the players, he introduced me to after he's like, it's my goddaughter. She wanted to be a sports entertainment lawyer. We like standing on the altar after the benediction at church, Goddad beelines. And the dude was like, if you're going to represent me, what you're going to do for me? And I was like, okay, and it ain't that time of party, I will find another job. Oh, wow. Wait, in church? At church.

Right after the benediction. Come on. That's where to go. That's where the folks come out at. At church. He got the wrong one. So on the hills of that question, and you tell me if this is going too far, Angela, but this is my own curiosity.

Are you single? And if you are, how crazy is it to navigate in your world being who you are with the mouth that you have? and I'm assuming that you rather go black? So I've never dated a white guy. I'll say that. But I will also say that... This is serious. So I will also say that I am single.

This is not a plug for Tinder-like engagement, though, on social media. I say that regularly. Like, I'm not on Twitter trying to find a dude. Please don't DM me. I have some crazy DMs. like crazy DMs, crazy comments on Instagram in particular. And while I appreciate the love, sometimes I just wish they would just hold it in their hearts.

I just want to stay. I got some things happening right now. I just want to stay focused. But no, it's fine. It is what it is. It's not difficult dating in this being you. I don't think I have a problem being approached. I think that I'm selective.

I'm a daddy's girl, truthfully. and so if they don't align with Too soon Too soon Too soon I'm sorry If they don't If they don't line at

My standards And like what I know A man should be like I'm not checking for dude Yo would you date somebody in politics At this point I don't think so Like I can't be like a first lady type

I'm looking to piss off everybody You want to know why Angela Rye Because you are going to be president You heard it here first. The second black female president, because we ain't getting her killed. Those are not my, those aren't my dreams and aspirations. But I appreciate you projecting.

We don't control our face. You know, like, the black folks in church. You think I wanted to be the next? He's a good speaker. He's going to be a preacher. Like, that's what I feel like, because I know politics, like, y'all think I'm going to run for. I'm not running for office. That's not the real one.

Look, back in 1993 when I was signing my record deal, do you think I was like, yo, I'm going to be the black Doc Severson of the... No, we don't know... That's Kevin Eubanks. We don't know what... That's right. There you go. But we can say no, but we can...

But when they dig up all this footage, they're going to be like, we can't be over here. Yeah. It's crazy. Like, that ain't happening. So I just don't want to run. I just hope that you will receive that in your spirit. I don't want to run.

I'm not trying to run. I've already defied you three times. He's already making run, Angela run t-shirt. And I thought I was hard-headed. Am I the first person I really tell you this? No, there are a lot of people that ask me to run all the time

That's just not what I want to do I feel like there are other ways that I can have large Impact Maybe that's the president Maybe you're the president Maybe the president's sitting in your chair Because it's not in this one That's way too much weed

Oh Lord Do you think Zuckabberg is making a go? I don't know Is that a thing? I didn't hear that Well he's just like Doing a bunch of like Pre-president

Like he's like He's like put up a post the other day and was like, yeah, I'm in Iowa. Met some folks down here. He had a shot. He laughed at Donald Trump. He was trying to get to 2 billion Facebook users. Goal achieved.

Now let's see if he still does that. If so then maybe I'll follow you there. Yeah. I mean, I was just, I mean, 2020, Corey Booker? Maybe. Maybe also Kamala, which, like, she's shutting it down. So, I mean, I don't know.

I don't know. Fucking Kamala. Yeah, I don't want her to get hurt. No, we don't want anybody to get hurt. We want no one to get hurt. And I appreciate you for coming on the show today. Thank you for having. We've been trying to make this happen for the longest.

I know. So tell us where we can hear your podcast. The podcast is called On One with A Rye, and it's on Apple, on iTunes, on Spotify, on title, and SoundCloud. Well, damn. So what do we learn today, Fonte? man I learned that Angela Rye is probably like I'm not a very political person at all

like I'm not like a person that like checks the news all the time and get very involved in the creative process yeah yeah I mean y'all know if you listen to the show y'all know I don't follow that shit like that but you know what I'm saying but I do have a respect for just really genuine people and the thing that I just met with the thing with you is that you have you're very knowledgeable about your feel and you know it but at the same thing time there's something with you that I think is very relatable and you're not so much like I won't say necessarily don't stay on a pedestal but you're you're very relatable which I think also lends credence to the presidential quality which I know you don't want but I'm saying that I think that quality

about you is something and that I don't see in a lot of your contemporaries and it's a lot of people even when we were talking in the group text and we were like yo and just doing the show I was like okay, out of a lot of people in that lane of the new black kind of political, she's the one to me that seems kind of the most center, not necessarily center in terms of the issues where you stand, but just she's the one that seems more like, yeah, like she could fuck with us and like she is a person, you know what I mean?

And so, no, just sitting down here chopping up with you. Thank you for making the time, man. And like, for real. Boss Bill, what did you learn today? I learned a lot today. I shouldn't say learn. I got reminded of a lot of stuff. that I've probably forgotten, like, the impeachment process and all that stuff.

I just wanted to reiterate, thank you for coming to the show. Lai and I have been trying to get you here for a while, so we were thankful that you finally made it. So glad to be here. Hey, Bill. What did you learn today, bro? I learned what an alderman is. I learned that in 1993 you signed your first record deal. It was the same year that I got bar mitzvah.

That's important. Wow. You're like, yeah. Yeah, that was a good year. I turned it to a man. Anyway, and I wish that I was as knowledgeable about what I do as Angela Ryans because it's really impressive to listen to you speak. Like, I'm not, no fucking around. Like, I can't talk.

I love what I do. And I think I'm good at it. Some other people do. And I, yeah, it's really impressive. That's all. So thanks. She speaks so well. Clean and articulate.

Remember the Joe Biden moment? Clean and articulate. In less than 250 words, Laya. Okay. what you learned today at a low tone. Okay. You know, I get excited when we... Yes.

Thank you. People are like, okay. I learned a couple things. I learned she will not be running for president. I learned that she will not be running for president. Although I hope that... Do you believe her, though? I do believe her because what I'm hoping for in the future is a black news network.

Somebody's got to do it. I don't know. I just feel like Angela Rock could get it done. Also, I learned some great periodicals to look for for fact. I hope you guys took your notes. I also learned that a black man is running for government. in Florida and everybody should support that. What's his name again so I can write it down, Angela?

Andrew Gillum. Andrew Gillum. Andrew Gillum for Florida. I learned what I already knew, girl, you're dope. Thank you. Sugar, Steve. I learned that you should have your own show. Thank you.

Very kind. For real. I've been watching you since Crossfire, I guess. No, I never went on Crossfire. What do you mean? I didn't go. He's Steve. Just yet.

Did you say that earlier? She said Crossfire training. She learned from Crossfire. All right, I'm going to give you time to that back and then you'll get it. Steve. No, you need that time. I know what I said. I was saying I've debated my dad on the right crossfire.

She's doing the Angela right now. What had happened was, as I said I debated my dad light crossfire growing up watching it. When the new crossfire came back, I went non-seen and yet I was still doing the MSTBC. No, no. It went in high school. Oh, when they bought it back. We went in high school when the Christmire right now? Are you flat checking answer right now?

out of your mind? No, it was like in the 80s, right? Yeah. Okay, okay, I was saying. Do Steve's credit? I thought CNN Crossfire was, like, when they have the panel, five people, I still thought that was an ongoing thing of Crossfire. Yeah, they brought it back, but I wasn't on there yet.

I was still doing MSNBC. Anyway, yes, Steve, we listening? Sorry about that. Steve? Should I interrupt you now like I always do, Steve? This would be a great time for you to cut me off. Okay, okay, as usual, because I always cut Steve off. You should have your own show.

Yeah. Yes, you should definitely have your own. She does not fuck with Amorosa. No. And I appreciate. None of y'all better not either. I'm going to come for you in your Twitter feeds as well. I appreciate somebody.

Again, you're relatable. Like, you name names. You like fuck the you like the two-fock of politics. Pass me outside. How about that? Speaking of the Twitter feed. What's your Twitter handle and your Instagram handle so people can follow you? Twitter handle is Angela underscore Rye.

Because some white girl took my name before I was on. See how they do. They always taken. No, she took it. No, it was, it's her real name, to be fair, but she just got the handle before. She got there first. I did. And then my Instagram handle is Angela Rye, all one word.

Rye like the bread. Cool. Shout out to the Jews. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you. I could have sworn that you two. I could have sworn that your role call. I got to say your roll call, you guys missed the golden moment to make a ride to all the.

Shit. Of all the Jewiness that you have. All the things that you guys are discussing. It still wasn't the worst roll call of the night, though. I'll be that, I accept it? Collusion. I liked Bill's roll call. It was funny.

Anyway, damn, well, you guys covered... Oh, I know. I learned a day. Oh, yeah. We do learn the day. That Angela Ryan, single as a motherfucker. You're going to help me. You're welcome.

You're welcome. Thank me. Oh, shit. With my thank you. What my thank you? You're gonna have me getting told. No, I'm trying to be, I'm trying to be first dude in the White House.

Anyway, on the ad, Thank you, Laetian. Sugarsteed and Bay Bill and Lady Arita. Thank you. And Fon Ticcolo and Bossville. And the once in future, Angela Rye.

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