The Questlove Show - QLS Classic: Dave Matthews

Episode Date: May 24, 2026

This 2023 Questlove Supreme episode gave way to a lot of the format you now hear on The Questlove Show. Ahmir, Laiya, Unpaid Bill, and Suga Steve ask Dave Matthews a mix of random icebreakers and some very specific questions about life and career. This interview, and the way audiences reacted to it, taught us all so much.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm Javierito Hernandez and listen to Learning to Be Human on IHard Radio, Apple Podcasts, or whatever you get your podcast. The Quest Love Show is a production of I Heart Radio. What up y'all? So in 2023, we had Rock and Roll Hall of Fame member Dave Matthews on the Quest Love Supreme Show. This interview may actually be the genesis for how I do something. stuff now, you know, my sort of prouse questionnaire level of questions. You know, we were spending the whole conversation talking about career music and, you know, I kind of texted the team supreme producers and said I wanted to get some random stuff for Dave, like really get to

know him as a person, his quirks and whatnot. So we did talk about the songs and the musical memories and touring, but we also learned about his coffee orders and his ice cream flavors and some of the things behind the artists. And I really liked this episode. It's fun to do, and especially fun for Dave. And I hope you enjoy this classic, classic episode of Questlove Supreme. And make sure that you're dialed in with the Quest Love Supreme Show and the Questlove show. And Dave Matthews over to you.

All right, let's go. Hi, David. Look, everybody's here. It's like the whole, here's the story of a man named Questie. Yes, it's all of us here. But it's very nice to see it. Great to see you too, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Questlove Supreme.

I'm your host, Questlove. Hey, guys, when can we call it the award-winning Quest Love Supreme? Five years ago. Oh, really? I like that. That's right now. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the illustrious award-winning Quest Love Supreme. There you go.

Right. Sorry. I'm expected to be part of this. Actually, if you're really good, we might make. you part of the team. So that's the joy of... It's coming. Yes. We might just steal you away. Right now, we are with our team Supreme members.

Sugar Steve, how is life? It's like quarantine, but you get to leave the house and do whatever the heck you want and work on all the shit you ever wanted to work on. And the first single from your record dropping this Friday from Plum on JMI is coming out, Brown Doves on Friday, Questlove. You sort of seen Sean G's face when he's. learned that I have a jazz record coming out. So yeah, he knows about it.

Anyway, unpaid Bill. Yeah, man. How's life post Tony? Great. I didn't win shit. Tony's were wonderful. It's whiskey Wednesday. Who won? Who won what? All of them. I guess

and Juliet didn't win. Y'all didn't get it. And Julia did not win a Tony, but that's okay because the doors are still open. Y'all still the shit, though. Thank you. Who wound up winning? I'm just curious. Kimberly Akimbo won a lot of Tonys, mostly for Best Musical, et cetera, et cetera.

It was a weird thing. It's called Kimbler. Kimberly Akimbo. What's the play called, Bill? That's what I think he's asking. Oh, that's what's called Kimberly Akimbo. I wish I could tell you something about it. I've not seen it, so I don't know.

So I'm just going to drink whiskey on Wednesdays. There you go. Kimberlya Kimball. Leah, how are you? I know we're in the same city, and I failed to tell you I've been here for a week. You know I want to give you the shade, friend. do. Ladies and gentlemen, a very good friend of mine, a very, very good friend of mine is coming to

visit us on the show. I will say that our guest, his namesake, he is the founding member and of one of the most powerful, well, the way that laugh came, I hope you are the founding member of the band that's your namesake. So anyway, one of the most powerful, one of the most creative, one of the most exciting, one of the most loved popular bands in all of the world. I will say that this band has, I mean, a mixture of cult following and mainstream, because the numbers are there,

you know, they have mainstream following as well. We don't know the hits, we know Crassin' Me, Ants Marching, too much, crush. I also just realized that this group, they've released nine studio albums, but however, they are the first band to have seven albums debut at number one.

And he's giving us the honor right now, celebrating with him. Their newest album, which is entitled Walk Around the Moon. What can I say, man, one of the nicest guys on Earth, if you ever have the pleasure of opening for this guy, he will actually introduce you

and stand on stage and watch you perform in front of the crowd of 15. but what more can I say? That was extremely generous. I mean, generous, but also precisely true. I have it a hilarious story. So when we first started opening for Dave, one of our very first shows was in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

And there were, I guess, as far as the comp ticket situation was concerned, I believe each member because it was Philadelphia, and our families were coming. Like, I think each family member got like, each band member got eight tickets. And the thing was, I didn't have anyone coming to see. So I had eight tickets, but our bus, our tour bus was kind of part where the general public could see us.

Like, we weren't in the tunnel with Dave's 42 trillion tour buses. So we were kind of on the, we were aware, like, his crowd could see us. And there were so many people there that were. like desperate for tickets. Like, uh-uh, anything. I need tickets.

I would take my kids to see Dave Matthews. So I was like, well, I got eight tickets. I'll just give it to them. So I'm in Philadelphia in my own town. Now it's 2003. So,

yes, we already won a Grammy. We're, you know, we're not, you know, you guys were killing. It was so exciting that you guys were over,

we're playing with us. Well, here's the thing, though. Here's the thing, though. So I'm figuring like, wow, I'm watching this dad struggle to get him and his two kids in. I'm actually going to walk up to him and give him my four tickets that he needs.

And it's going to happen, but I know it's going to be funny. It was such a pie in the face moment because it was like, I don't know if he just wasn't used to act that generous or anything. But he did not trust. that my tickets were legit. And I was like, well, I'm the opening act. I'm in the roots, the roots. And he was like, huh? I said, I'm one of the opening acts.

See, that's my tour bus. Here, I'm giving you these four tickets. And it's like he took him, but it was almost like he was waiting for that proverbial anvil to fall on his dead. He still stood there. I was like, well, you're going to go in the stadium, right? It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was as if I were going to walk

away. He was still still stood there and been like, all right, does someone have four tickets so I can get inside the Dave Matthews? Like, it's as if he did not believe that. So he blocked his blessing. I hope he did not get in and realize that he wrote really good seats. But I wish you could have just taken them back. It seems like a little bit of a rude. Bapar in response to. Well, it's Philadelphia. And Philadelphia is very non-trusting. Yeah. Especially of kind gestures. That part. And it's and, but it's also. You know, hometown, so you feel like, I thought. You know what, Dave, I'm just realizing that I've had some of the most interesting career pivots, courtesy of you. What that mean?

Sounds like a lot. Yeah, what the, like what? No, it just hit me that I once fired an assistant at a Dave Matthews show because you remember, right? Yeah, yeah. Oh. She beat me in Scrabble. And like, so I guess the rumor around Philadelphia is that I'm a sore loser at Scrabble and I fired my assistant. But it was just, she was a disrespectful way that she gloated.

So. And what does Dave have to do with that? What do you blame the day? I immediately hired her. Wait a minute. Yo, Steve. Steve. Do you know how we got

Dave Matthews? I remember See? That's funny. We stole from Dave Matthews. Oh my God. We can go on forever.

How are you doing, man? What's going on? We're on the road, except I'm home. My son just had his birthday. He turned 16. So that's sort of where my head is in a way because

it's a kind of exciting thing for me. Wait, you're conducting a podcast interview in the middle of your son's 16th birthday? No, the day after. So, oh, no, I would have, I think we, we, we schedule this again and again, but, for both of us, but I wouldn't have put it on his birthday because he, I mean, I would have cared because he, he wasn't, he didn't, I, I was available for him,

but he wasn't as available for me because he's 16 and then. So now you're in debt territory. No, what's a 16 year old life? That was a little bit expressive. I mean, there's times. I'm not selling him short, but he's busy. Right. So there's times when he's not available.

13 to 22. I get it. I was that person too. There. And I know that I was busy. I didn't want to abandon my mother. But there was a lot of stuff that I had to experiment with. And she understood.

and now I think I understand. So, but I, you know, we're touring. It's the season. And so that's what I'm doing. And I'm happily here and happy to, very happy to finally talk to you. I just have to say, I'm a mad, you know, you know that I'm an insane fan. So of yours and of the roots. But also, likewise.

So when I heard, when I heard that you were thinking that I would be an interesting guest, I calmly said affirmative. Thank you. And I appreciate that. The love is mutual. Wait, can I ask, does touring at this level for you ever get tiring? Because at least for me, I will say there's probably two acts that I've learned the most from in terms of touring. And that is the Beastie Boys, when we really first started touring.

And then you were pivotal and when we really got established. and just the small things that we didn't know that could happen on a tour. Like you were the first band that we saw that had like communication microphones on stage so you could talk to each other. And I was like, wait, I don't have to yell anymore. Like, go to the next part. Skip the turn first. I have to address this because this is serious stuff. This is serious.

I was on the side of the stage. We were up. It was a rainy day. I can't remember, but we were both there. We just talked backstage. just quickly as we were going. But I have to say this, I'd never been on in ears with you guys.

And I mean, and heard you guys talking to each other like that. Right. Hear you shouting the changing arrangement. It was, my headaches, I was just crazy. But first of all, I will never take that much responsibility for anything spontaneously. That's terrifying to me because- Oh, you don't do.

No, it was you. No, well, I mean, but I mean, we do say, let's change this, let's do this. What about it? We go and we let things happen. But you're actually turning all over the whole. You did something even better than that. You were cracking jokes. And I was like, wait a minute, we can actually crack jokes.

And, you know, there was a turnaround or a shift where for us it was like the same. grind, the same, you know, just rigor morale or whatever. And after we got done touring with you, I was like, yo, I want to do the same thing Dave Matthews does, the whole communication thing. And then suddenly our ability to joke with each other in one microphone while still doing, like the show, the audience is getting the show that they're getting. But it's also like, yo, third row, third row. third row far left he just fell down he spilled he spilled wine all over oh y'all see that like that is a very

it is i do think that this i have to say this i think that being able to talk to each other is it opens up when we figured out that that was possible it did suddenly create this sense of um we've we were worried a little bit some of the time that there was going to be times when, you know, people would zap in and they could pull. Someone's going to get on our wavelength and they're going to hear. Yeah. And then I'd be like, oh, no, God. It would come out, you know.

Right, right, right. You know, like, I do. Enrique Englishes. Yes. So, I mean, that happened to Areke Igleses. Really? That's that. And I hear about those things.

I mean, I, I'll, you know, often I'll say something to the audience. And even if it's earnest, and I mean it sincerely, and it's something about whatever, something that's happened. I'll turn around and look at the band and then say something that is totally. Oh. It's just so everyone break, just so, you know, so it's something you have you turn around and say something that I don't, until, you know, we've been on this podcast for a long time.

Right, right. Completely at home. I'm not going to go. But it does feel like there's, It does, has a weird thing of connects to the music in a way that I think may have happened in time. Would have been easier for it to happen in smaller venues when we are starting out or in a different band. You know, you're sitting around all playing together. Then you can say, you can shout things or play the bridge or let's do this or what about those titties or whatever it is.

Which, which that was our conversation earlier. Sorry, you heard that. Yes. Yeah, exactly. So, but once, once we, it was loud and you couldn't, and we couldn't really communicate, that, that whole spontaneity that happens, it sort of goes away and the conversation is only in the music. And so I do think that was a, I know what you mean, but then that it flipped around

and then when I saw you up in wherever and then watched you doing this conducting thing, I was like, wow, that's amazing. Now that I know. I live for nothing more than those serious moments, those benefits, those really earnest, quiet moments. I live for those moments because, yes, in the communication microphone, I'm going to say the most, my goal is to make them break and crack up while being forced to keep a serious face.

like that's mean I love doing it that's my favorite thing especially especially if there's a boring guest on the tonight show that's when I'll really come alive and provoke them

I'll have sound effects like snoring sounds and oh that's a suit of course you would take it to the next level because well first of all now I'm instantaneously paranoid but that goes not that I've not that it's been a while

since so if you when you talk to Jimmy say but you know just just invite me on let it be a couch guess even if it's to make a fool of me I don't care I'll wait you got an album out so that should be like too sweet oh actually it's right or strike yeah like yeah let's dang my ear I was going to say let's make sure that We have a TV show to do.

Yeah, that's, that's affected this project a lot then, right? You were talking about, you were talking about, like, it did sound sort of like the pandemic with when you guys. Without, when you can go outside, yeah. But you can go outside. It does. It's like the pandemic if you lived in the woods. Yeah. Well, I mean, but does that basically mean that you'll just have to double up in radio promotions or?

Yeah. Just do creative things like stuff on YouTube or like what does it mean to have a new album and not be able to promote it on the medium of television? Unless you do the view. Well, I will. Oh, really? Yeah, the view, they're still working. What did they do? The view is still working?

The view is still working. Yeah, they tell you before every show who you'll be like, just so y'all know, we don't have writers. So don't be coming at us about what we're asking because this is all us. Yeah, yeah. Makes sense. Yeah. They're spontaneous. Yeah.

Oh. I didn't realize that, well, that it shows sometimes. But I haven't watched the view very often. And so any judgment that I pass is unfair. No, that's fine. I got it. But I do, yeah, we were supposed to do some shows and they would cancel them. But at this, at the same time, I sometimes think this people are still coming to the shows.

And so, and, you know, adding more music into it. We're not only playing the record. And so it's, you know, just, I don't pay enough attention to anything. That's what I. That's a good answer too. And the Dave Matthews band, do they need the same machine at everybody? At this point, you're right. Like, people know when the music's coming out, your people know.

And it probably doesn't make a huge effect that you don't have to do like TV like that. Yeah, we're lucky. And then we'll cram a bunch of. TV and when nobody cares. You know something though? Speaking of which, I'm working on a project of which your musical performances

from like 93 to about 96 are included in this project. And I wanted to know, especially for your song structures, how limiting is it

to do television if you only have have a four minute and 30 second window, because, you know, from my experiences of being at Dave Matthew shows, like, you guys cook for six to eight minutes on songs, you know, like the solos are the best part of the... I think that that's true. That's the best part.

It is my favorite part is when everything gets cracked open. And then we can, you know, be spontaneous. and when the when the even vocally when things when melodies change but uh i don't know it's it is a it's a weird it's a weird uh television is very stressful when you have two and have three minutes i don't know you know i was worried the mix is going to sound as bad as it might and then i'm worried uh that i'm going to suck and then i'm or it's too how can you do anything in two and a half minutes it is it is right so anytime there's an opportunity to mock myself which is you know i often i like that that's what i i'm glad that um

phallon when i come on that show then i can the google you have a little fun yeah when i came on that show it did the uh uh trap thing yes and you guys were singing the yes i do remember that so i got it but i have to tell you I worked so hard on that Cardi B-Tune to make sure that even though I was just goofing off on the guitar, I wanted to get every single, every single of course. I didn't want to, I didn't want people to think, what song is I wanted very specifically. We know.

Someone to know what it was. Because it is, I'm very loose about sticking. to the script. In that instance, I felt like the script was the only thing that would make it work. So I had to at least be otherwise it would have been, I could have, if being the normal me, I could have just, I could have phoned it in and people have been like, I have no idea what he's doing. We have no idea what music he's singing. Right. I had to be much more strict than I am with my normal music, which is, which is, you know, I mean, I don't, I don't even know if I get my lyrics right. So, so when you did that, when you did that, that piece with Cardi and stuff, you're

16-year-old is your oldest kid? He's my baby. He's your baby. So this is good. So what did your kid say about you doing that? And did they have it? He laughed. He thought it was pretty fun. He actually did, he even was nice enough to say, you know, it sounded. It didn't sound right, but, you know, he said it sounded pretty good, Dad. Are your children, are they musicians? My son plays the piano and he plays the guitar, but, and he enjoys it, but he doesn't like to do it. As far as I know, at one time, all the kids, there's a party and all the kids were playing

their piano. Some kids were better than other kids. Right. Stay, I said, I said to him, I wish you got up and played the piano and he looked at me and he said, Dad, I will never, ever do that. I was like, but it was just, it was kind of interesting, but it was, I understand where he's coming from. It is, I understand what he's saying.

He's saying, there's this, there's a different world, and I'm not, I'm not, I'm not jumping in it right now. So you don't even expect that. Don't even. Don't even. I'm going to go play football. I was forced in the family business. Like I would just naturally think that, you know, any progeny or whatever, like you just

automatically, I figure at least by 10 or 12, like he's going to sit in and sit on a high chair and start playing with you and eventually, I mean, in your mind, would you like that or is that like, no, just me, Carter and, and, and, and, and. And like, Stefan, like, this is our thing and our thing only? Or I don't know if I'd want my son to come and, uh, I mean, I would love it if he wanted to, but it's not something that I think about. I'd love him to find, he has his own musical. He likes, is a pretty wide perspective of the kind of music he enjoys and he always

surprised me. But that's what I, I want him to find music the way I did. I guess I came from a family. There were no musicians. but my mom, you know, listened to a lot of classical music. My parents did and then also some folk music. And then I found my way, my brother turned me on the music. I think I found a Beatles record or something.

And so I kind of felt that's kind of the way I found music. And so there's been music around my kids and in our house. Oh, snap. But he answered it without asking. Wait, wait, wait. I was like, snap, wait a minute. We're doing a podcast. Wait a minute.

Wait a minute. You thought you and Dave were just talking and catching up. Wait. Wait. What? Oh, my God. 28 minutes? There's a new record.

Yo. Wait. Can we each have one word of the question? What? Stop. Go ahead, Steve. Go ahead. Okay.

What was your first musical? Memory. Wait a minute. Time out. Time out. That's usually the first question we asked everybody. Wait a minute. This is the level of comfort I have with Dave Matthews.

I legit forgot I was doing a podcast. I was totally, I let a half hour go by and I didn't even start the process. No. I was like maybe he's doing his remakes. Sometimes we remakes and we don't start from the beginning. Well, I'm here.

So, you know, if we have to start again, I'm happy to. No, no, no. We're not starting again. But I will say this. But the question was, what was your first musical memory? I would like to say my first live music that I remember, like I think it was my first memory, because I think I was sitting between my mom's knees. I was a little kid, you know, sort of.

And on the back of a flat bed truck, Pete Seeger was playing the band singing. Wow. And I remember thinking that guy's awesome. And he was so weird, he was such a weird, but he was so, he was so friendly. And so that's my first like, I feel like- Which country was this, Dave? Because you've lived in a lot of places.

Where were you when you saw? That was in upstate, not upstate New York, but you know, North of New York City. So he was in Croton quite a bit in that area. And was it turn, turn, turn, or? I can't remember what so I don't think he was I can't remember what songs he was playing I just remember thinking this and people were you know it was relaxed and everything but then I think my when I was five years old I remember liking the Jackson five so I'm not entirely sure whether that was because why I fell in love with them was because they had a five right right but then I really did love um them and then I've I fell in love with the Beatles and I became I would say

a bore until my brother opened my brain when I was about 10 and my brother was turning me on to other kinds of music and and then I and then I it was the 70s so I could listen to the radio and you could hear you know in the 70s you could have the radio on and it could be like at least well PLJ or whatever it was you know it was like it could be it would be like John Denver and then Marvin Gay and then Paul McCormick and then you know Donna Summers and then And you know, I remember my mom would always go to the radio when Donna Summers came on and she'd be going, I'll love to love you, baby.

My mom like, I don't like this song. Right, right. And then she'd wait for it to be over. But I remember my mom always running to the radio and turning off the, and that was the only song I could remember her response. I think it was just, it was too much, there was too much love making in that song for my mom. Pride is like love. You feel it in your heart. Canada's number one streaming app for radio and podcasts, including IHart Pride Canada, your favorite hits and must have party bangers,

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Back when we scheduled this interview weeks ago, I watched about three interviews of yours. And they're pretty much, they're pretty much the same format. Like they talk about, you know, your beginnings in South Africa, moving to the States, and then putting the band together. They talk about...

So I'm actually going to go back to where we were just five minutes ago. I'm going to talk to you like a friend, not as a music expert. Thank you. So wait, no, no, no. I want to ask you random things. I totally put my script. This is random stuff.

I put my script away. All right. So this is what I want to know. And this is, I'm asking you just your everyday life questions. Okay. For our listeners, I feel like you know a lot about a person based on their Starbucks order. What is your main order at Starbucks? an Americana with cream.

All right. What's that in English, Steve? Because you know that you got to translate for me. Espresso with water in it. Steve is our resident Starbucks addict. I have a coffee shop in Seattle that, you know, everyone has the best coffee shop in the world. But this actually is the best coffee shop.

And it's called Lighthouse. And well, there's a, there's some. There's a lot of great coffee shops here as much as there are everywhere, but this particular one, I call it that. And it's a small little one. And so I hope that it doesn't piss them off that I just told everyone about. But I get more cappuccinos and lattos, not the one that you get at Starbucks,

but the original sort of simple foam and espresso when I go there, because everything they make, even if I just get a shot of espresso, everything they make there is, delicious. But if I go to Starbucks, I know it's going to be the, if I get a four-shot Americano, it's going to taste exactly the same in Des Moines as it will taste in Tokyo or Yorktown Heights, New York. It's not going to be any different. Wait, what part of the world do you live? Do you, what part of the world are you living in now? Are you, Virginia or I live in Seattle? So I'm between, I sort of live between,

between Virginia and Seattle, but my children, because my wife studied medicine here, my children were born in Seattle, I bored, he just, he just got up and left. Yeah, he's over. He always, he's, I'm kidding. I hate when people talk about their children and where they're from.

I just had to, I had to take a break. I had to take a break. I know, I know what you mean. It's where, it's where I just did, and I did it all and I'm saying, and I keep doing it. Where do you live? I live in Seattle.

Anyway, so my, uh, we end, it up being here and we like it in Seattle a lot and we also know those are opposite towns by the way that's that's some interesting duality of worlds that you got going on in charlottesville and then Seattle that's right it is true but it's it's also funny because there's assumptions we make about both which are true which are but which are also but are also very um not true at all right right you know very opposite they're not monoliths they're not monoliths no And maybe Charlottesville is, I guess it's a wonderful place, but every place could be a little more aware of itself than it is, I imagine.

I bet your kids are well-rounded for those reasons, though. That's what I was thinking, too. Like, they know all the things. I think I have nice, I think I have kind children. That's the main thing. You do. I've met your children. Yeah.

You absolutely do. And I've also think that my children are well-round enough. that they act polite and well put together when they when they see you quest but they are very excited oh i have one great story made me really proud of my kids so one of my favorite musicians is danny barns he's a banjo player out of austin he lives up in this area oh fuck it many yeah all fuck it i had enough of that my pole barn fell into my peaches I'm looking at him up right now. You know, it's so, he's so funky.

Oh, fuck it. Last time we were together 100 years ago at Sesame Street, you brought up Danny Barnes. I feel like he's a common, he's a common thing. I love it, but I love this story because, wait, he was on Sesame Street, Bill? David, Danny Barnes was not on Sesame Street. That would be amazing.

Dave, Dave Matthews, this person, he was on Sesame Street. So you brought him to the Sesame Street. Okay, great. I brought him up. I was, I was, I was, very happy to be on Sesame Street. But anyway, my... Yes.

Someone, some kid asked my kids if they knew Bob Marley. And I think they were asking them if they had ever heard of Bob Marley. But my kids were spoiled. And I remember my daughter said, they were little. And my daughter said, I don't know Bob Marley, but we know Danny Barnes. Right. There you go. My kids. Parental win.

Effective. That's good. All right. My next everyday question is, what television show are you currently binging? Oh, that's a good one. That's a really good one. So I am mad that I do like that the Last of Us thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the last two episodes were my favorite, because,

they were just so no spoilerless. No spoil. Come on, man. I'm just saying, I didn't finish it. I didn't finish it. I finished it yet. Ruthless.

I just, ruthless. I'm excited. So I'm sad that I got to the end. Anyway, they were ruthless. A lot of people were like, I didn't like the last two.

I was like, I love them. You too. But also, I want to tell you, I think people should watch this funny. I think it's Australian

show. I don't know if they haven't made any more, but it's called Mr. In Between Does anybody? This sounds familiar.

Wait, wait, wait. What service? What is this on? I think it's Mr. In Between. I really like this show. Oh, no, I just meant Hulu. Okay, Mr. I don't know what it. I could be on it.

Come on, Dave. You know, but sometimes you just fall on to, you fall into things. It is Hulu. I know that there's going to be a show that I'm watching that I have, that I've forgotten. Okay. And then there's, uh, I just finished that. finished that. Res. Res.

Reservation. Reservation dogs. Yes. About the indigenous kids. Yes. Reservation dogs. Yes. That's a good show.

It's a really good show. It's a lot of dope indigenous shows on like on streaming right now. Like they didn't include the community. It's really cool. Oh, oh, oh. All of the non-musical jobs that you've had. This is my favorite episode of Quest Love Supreme. ever it's yeah because i just wanted i want to know him as a human being instead of

improv i did i i was a bartender which is i think um uh not unusual for musicians but i but i worked my way up to bartending i started off as the salad guy and they used to call me the nacho guy because i made more nachos than salads and then i waited tables i hated that's the worst that's the hardest job in the world waiting waiting tables I think it's the hardest job in the world. Do you have the ability to carry that tray, like, way above your head? I was good. I'm good at carrying trays, but I'm also really good when I'm overwhelmed,

because I'm easily overwhelmed. I'm really good at pretending that someone's not in my section until they leave. Wait. So you got passive aggressively. Yeah, excuse me. Can we haven't been served yet. I'm sorry, you're not in my section. I'm just going to, but I'll let your waiter know.

I didn't do it often, but I did do it. And I will, and I tell you that the one of the weird, I was working on the patio and there's a lot of rats in this particular underneath this mall, but I, there was, they used to rats with restaurants, okay. I walked onto the patio where I, where I was waiting and I looked and there was this, there was a group of women

and they were a little bit fancy, well, not too fancy because they were at our restaurant, but they were a little bit fan. and there was a rat at their feet. So I didn't want to say, excuse me, there's a rat at your feet because that would cause mayhem. I love the way.

Anyway, so I waited for the rat to walk away from under their table. And it took so long. They would move their feet like the rat would be standing on their shoe, and then it would move, They moved their feet and then the rat would just walk. I mean, it was so bananas. How comfortable.

It was in Charlottesville. It was in Charlottesville. It was the most comfortable rat in the world. It walked out onto an open area and then the ladies spotted it when it was in an open area outside the restaurant. And one of the ladies said, oh, a rat. And then they all were like, Oh, no. And then this dude came out of its long clothes now.

This dude came out of a Walmart and he had a. And I was at this story now, I was like, oh, I've been, I must save, I must stop the rats. Oh, now you care. Now you care. They ate all their toes. Now I can acknowledge that the rats. If it was on, I was just, I was so happy it made it away. Still not your section.

Anyway, it wasn't in my section. And then, and this dude. came out of the Walmart with a broom handle and a box and then just right in front of everyone just beat this rat to death. And this dude just walked out just as if nothing was out and just was like, ha, come, come, ha, and people were like, ah, and I was kind of stunned, too. And then he just smacked it into the box and just walked away. back.

Drop the box next to the... Back to Walmart. Walmart and just walked in... Not Walmart. What am I talking about? Woolworths. I said Woolworths. I have to throw.

Okay. A whole different... He didn't come out of a giant megastore. He came out of the old... The little old Woolworths. I apologize. I ruined the story by saying... No, you didn't.

No. It's almost better. Dave Matthews, you literally... Yo, guys, this might have to be my new format. I love this story. Wait, that's one job. What's the other four? Oh, shit.

So I worked in a record store and it was in South Africa and it was when, um, oh my God, I can't believe. Anita Baker's like smash album came out and she was rapture. Wait, wait, wait, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out. Wait. Why do we get triggered, Laia?

Yeah, we did. I was like, wait, would you do? Sorry, Deva. I know you haven't been watching it news lately. Inside joke. She's not a game. She's not a game. She's not a game. Go ahead.

I'm sorry. Inside joke. We just heard her name. and got scared like what the fuck you need to bake a trigger here we go this was a long time ago okay I apologize if I if I haven't been reading

the paper but no no you're good anyway she was saying that album was just that was non-stop and so that was what everyone was it was yeah and the thing it was it was in the it was in the city in Janusburg and it's and it was an interesting time because it's when like Hillbrough

in Johannesburg and Yoville and Johannesburg and downtown Johannesburg where they were starting to call them gray areas because although apartheid was still like holding on with its claws it was it was everyone everyone knew it was at this it was when the clerk was about to turn he was going to the president of south africa was about to what they you know what the what much of the country uh the white part of the country considered the great betrayal because he was hardline apartheid guy and then suddenly he just did but i think he he got the reports from people and and and it was essentially you know let go or right it's or you know there's going to be held to pay right and get out look it out yeah so anyway it was

right around that time so there were these gray areas where people like where it was a essentially, you know, already integrated. And, you know, the police were still horrifying. And it was all that was still going on. But it was like these certain areas, like there's sort of the hip, that be college students and Orthodox Jews and then anyone else that want to live there. It's just. And one Polish guy once said to me when I was in his cab in New York going to Brooklyn,

he says, you know why the Jews don't leave here. The Jews don't leave here because the Jews don't take shit from anybody. And I was so interesting. I don't know why I did a weird, not good. No, that was, I thought that was kind of good. I don't know. Steve, Bill, you, but I thought that. No, I feel like that Polish was nailed.

That was, I felt like. B minus. I was, but anyway, it was a fucking accent. Oh. But anyway, it wasn't me. I didn't say it. So then, but I just thought that was. So I just thought it was interesting because.

then I ended up living years later in a area or with a friend in an area that was, it was like had been very much like sort of a Jewish area in in Johannesburg that had now become this sort of gray area, but it was still very Jewish, but it was also college kids and it was also like it was really interesting time. And that's when I worked at this record store. I wish I get Hillbrow Records is what it was called. And um, and then, What else? Shit, that was a long, this is a long story. And I drew some pictures. I did some illustrations for, for a magazine's like brochures for like insurance companies for a little while.

That was just like a small, like a local like come and, you know, get your. You're an illustrator? Like a pull out. Like like come and get a thermometer put in your butthole at this. And you write a cartoon of it or? Yeah, you draw a little like picture of a thermometer and a butthole. No, I wish it was that interesting. It was much more like, you know.

Wait, can I ask, does your publicist approve of this interview? I feel like. They're here. They should. They're right. They just. Yeah, thumbs up from that guy. Some random dude giving you two thumbs up.

That's amazing. Can I ask a random acting question real quick? Because I'm sorry, but your favorite characters of mine was from Blended. And I'm just so curious if you're like an improv dude. or yeah, that's my first question about acting, but I'm just curious if you're an improv due because it seems like you'd be amazing at it. Well, I haven't done too much of it,

but I'm willing to learn. Really? So what's your acting? So as far as your training, what do you consider you just? When I was bartending, a bunch of English grads who worked in bars in Charlottesville

and other people that prefer, started there's two there was one called offstage theater and one uh like there and there was another one that was that wasn't uh in random places that i've forgotten it now over and they'll get mad at me when they if any of them hear this but and then so we i used to do when i was uh 20 in my early 20s i used to do little acting things there and i you know try to figure out what the hell i was doing with myself i wanted to do something well he was in the last I think the last thing I did with offstage theater was the band was already together. I think a couple of guys came to something I did in the bars.

Leroy and Carter, I think they came to one of them. And then now, you know, if Sandler calls me, I'll do his movie. Yeah, I was about to say y'all got a nice relationship. Yeah. What's your most fun Adam Sandler experience of all the movies that you've done together? So one time, and he might not verify this, because, but but it's mildly X-rated. But he called me up and he said,

you said, hey, buddy, I got this one thing. I got this thing for you. He says, you got to read this. And it was actually for the part that I think Woody Harrelson ended up playing. So he obviously, Adam got a better option. But it was when Woody played the trans woman or something in. Yes. Oh, anger management.

Anger management. Yeah, but Woody was, Woody was great. He was good. Anyway, so he was, I think he was calling me about that. I'm not 100% sure, but he said, but I got this pop with you. And I said, I said, I'll do anything for you. I said, you could dress. I said, you could do anything.

You're amazing. You could put a dress on. And I'd probably, you know, want to make love to you. And he goes, whoa. And he goes, and he goes, whoa, whoa, whoa. you could you could you could never you can never ever make love to me like I'm sorry he goes you could even maybe you could titty fuck my ass but you can never go in style you can never go in and I was like that's my that's my greatest memory of Adam

Sandler. I thought you was a Jack and Jill or whatever and I was like no you could titney fuck my never go inside me also that impression is point on it is point on that is spot on sand man I'm sorry to be heady about this but so everything that happened between you and Nicole Hintman was scripted Yeah I mean for the most I mean for the most of the stumbling was

It was all pretty scripted She's pretty shy and Keith was Keith was around quite a bit too Or um Okay Tar players making it weird Awkward It's the funniest she's ever been

That's it there But she's but she know what What's interesting is How much she adores Adam Sam because she said when she was first coming up, she said she was on Saturday Night Live and she was terrified and Adam was just the nicest man. And that's kind of a thing that's interesting.

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Hey, Niall. It's the same thing with Slow Hands. Slow Hands is not about anything else, really, is it? You know, or taste so good can't be about food. You do the same, Nick, with some of the stuff that you've done. You too, Joe. Drop what you're doing and listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. David, I've been wanting to ask you this my entire life.

We've talked about this before, actually. You've talked about this before, actually. You talk to the Beatles, simplicity of melody, the simplicity of music writing. And yet when I listen to your songs, the time signatures are complex. The thoughts are complex. The harmonics are complex. It feels like one thought and then a different, practice. Yeah, I've, I, I have, I have learned nothing. But like, but like, we've worked

together for a long time and like it's like it's you're, I think in your head and in my head, and I guess in songwinder says you want, you want to present the most simple thing, the most beautiful, simple, perfect thing. But yet for whatever reason, you get caught up in the musicality of it all, right? And then and then, and then, but, but for whatever reason, you're very successful at finding that in the end finding the most beautiful thing regardless right and so that has always been my like number one Dave Matthews thing your entire career as a fan as a person who knows you that just like I don't know how you do that I really don't and it's like it's really fantastic that I don't know how it's better to say that in word that that's that's that's very kind I do I have to

say that I do I want to say stop there and don't right fuck it up up don't take change it to five don't put it in eight for no reason and then switch it to four what do you do why do i have to be so confusing but then i but then sometimes i can't stop myself and then i just end up going in circles until it's too complicated so i either throw it away or something but i also have to say something that some there have been specific times in my life when i've said when i've come up with something that's that's weird a weird time of signature it's unusual but i feel like And I think a lot of it is sort of listening to some sort of Central African and West African grooves and how it sounds like it's here, but then it's actually over here. And I don't know if I understand it, but I still get inspired by it.

And then I'll come up with something. And I think to myself, I think this will sound really good if Carter plays it, you know, because Carter will come in and make something that's really unusual sound like it makes sense. and I think it's a remarkable gift. So sometimes I even go on tangents just to play for Carter, who, if anyone that's listening doesn't know is the drummer that I've been lucky enough to work with for a 30 years.

We all know Carter View. I know you guys know. But Amir, like, how do you feel about a drummer like Carter? Because essentially your philosophies are completely and utterly polar opposite. So you want to know something? Because also like, and I respect you. both in so different ways, but it's a completely different thing.

And it's fascinating to me. Here's the funny thing. So the project I'm working on right now, right, is, it was me looking at these guys, like a period between 94 to 96. And it just hit me when I saw them like, this is like when the second album first came out. And I saw them. So basically what Bill is this. explaining is that I have a very bare bones straight pocket and it wasn't until I saw you guys

cold-blooded pocket but it wasn't until I saw the earliest performance of an unmentioned secret project I'm working on that it finally hit me I was like yo now I saw this with at the drive in. I saw this and then when I saw this also when they morphed into Mars Volta, and now I'm seeing it with Dave Matthews. I now know where the true

creative home where what I call gospel chop jumping belongs. Carter is the perfect musical specimen of a drummer for this particular ensemble situation where if it fits like a hand in

glove. The problem I have is, all right, if you were to take Carter, he is gospel chops, you're saying. It's transcended gospel shops. Like, he's on a whole other level. Right. He's the honest, but that's the thing. And, but the only reason why that level of drumming would be jarring for me is if, say, a tribe called Quest asked for the same sort of drummer. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Then it would be different. But I now, like, when I, when I saw it, then I went on an instant rabbit hole and only watched pre-99 Dave Matthews to see them at their very beginnings

and I'm like, oh shit, you guys are actually the blueprint for where black music is today as far as rhythmically and structurally. And I don't think you guys know that and I don't think that's for sure. That we know that.

No, I don't think we know that. And it's just like only in Mars Volta and in the Dave Matthews band, is that level of insane drumming like music to my ears where it's just perfect. Makes all the sense. Don't get me wrong.

I mean, it does. Again, I'll just sit here and I'll just lie in that. That sounds good to me. Wait, did I not make that clear? No, you make it here, but it was just, but it was kind of meant. Well, yes, I have a way to go around the scenic route

to get to the point. Yes. but okay so what is your preferred method of songwriting so do you do it alone or do you guys get together or there's been times when like the the i think sometimes the best of what we do is when we're all together in the room and and you know i'll have i'll find an idea and and and and we'll jell like one of my favorite songs that i think we've ever that ever put out called it's called virginia in the and actually it only came out a couple of albums ago. It's just this swimming kind of feel and it's crazy.

And it's so comfortable and everyone sounds exactly like everyone sounds and it, but it's kind of a magical thing and the way that the timing kind of has this upside down thing. And when we were first doing it, I think we all kind of almost had different ones, you know, it was like this, but the writing on that was all of us, you know, in the same space. And then there's times when I'll come in with a sort of, of almost finished song and and then also I have a I don't it's not maybe traditional but I have a I think it's probably more common now but there's a song like on the new record a walk around the moon and obviously it was harder for all of us to get into a room together in the pandemic because we

are all everyone's losing their minds and um so that was sort of a restrictive situation but you know in traditional terms I'd finished the song walk around the moon and then Carter came in he was the first to come in because the producer Rob said we should get Carter to play on this I we hadn't planned to make a record and but when Carter first he listened to that and he did his funny sort of writing down the arrangement and and then he went out and what he played over it was so bananas and so beautiful so straightforward but so bananas it's like it like wrote it like here was the song was written here and then what he did like change the song but it didn't it just made it way more what it was

and i think in a traditional sense someone would say uh you know i'd say like oh i wrote that song and you know maybe there have been times when i had but i i had to say carter wrote the song with me because just you know just the way he came in and so there's that that time so some songs come out of jams 99% of the time i write the lyrics afterwards which is why maybe so often they're gobbledygoop, trying to figure out a way I had to screw a lyric onto something that's jumping all over the place. So whether I write a musical thing or form or a song by myself or the band gets together and we jam something or it's a mixture of each thing, the writing of the lyrics sort of comes at the end. So that is so the process, that,

part of it doesn't change. I love when we're all free and I, you know, there's times when I'll, you know, say to Carter, play something like, play this, you know, or, but there's also times where I, where I don't say anything, you know, and I would expect the same from him too, you know. I do feel like a very fortunate that, that we've managed to, like, keep this process. I've managed to keep this process a little bit of an exchange rather than getting into a where, you know, I'm telling everyone what to do. Because I think so much more power in, at least in this band, we've all been together so much that, you know, there's more noise to be had from other people that make things surprising.

For you, is there, what is your idea of musical happiness? Like, do you prefer small, small, intimate jamming situations with your band? Or actually, when's the last time you guys played in? You know, like Toads up in a club. Yeah, like Toads up in the Yale. But we, you know, often when we play outside of the country, outside of the U.S., you know, we play in smaller places. It depends. You know, we do, there's, you know, parts of Europe where we do better.

But we're more in a weird way, we're more of a, like a cult band in the rest of the world than we are, definitely than we are in the States. I mean, some, you know, some. Germany, where you play, like, how many people are you playing to in? Frankfurt, Germany. Like 2000 or five, you know, maybe, maybe, I don't know, five to two, five, somewhere we bounce around like, like Portugal, they, they like us there. So we do a little more. Right.

We do a little more, we get a little more action in Portugal and Spain. We do all right. The UK is a little bigger. But then, you know, once we get, but then it's a different, it's very, the vibe is, it's so much fun to play to, you know, a different audience, an audience that we don't get to play in front of very. much, you know, because we had this funny thing in the States that, that, you know, we kind of came up, you know, even though we have this, we've been lucky at times more than others to sell out big

places, we still kind of came up this way from our shows and sort of word of mouth. And so that, we haven't had that opportunity as much in other places. And so our audience is sort of similar, but a little more excited about listening to us in other parts of the world than it states. How can you plan a tour in which every territory varies in size? And I know that at your peak, your maximum, you guys are a fully operational, like, you know, 13, 14, 18 wheeler truck. maybe I would assume a seven to 10 tour bus or private plane operation like but then you're saying that like if you go to Glasgow Scotland or something then you might have to small scale it so how how do you route and plan that out where some places you're you can play 90,000 I guess we

do them separate so you know we're going to go to Europe in the spring and so then we'll think of it like what can we do and you you know fentanyu designs our stages and uh and uh does our lights and has for a long time but you know since like the first year that we were together but so like then he'll design a stage for for if we're in europe and and we'll be much and you know and then we'll take our core crew we won't need the biggest so it's just like a you know logistical change and and a lot of it's not and thank god it has nothing to do with me because that would be a shit show. I love playing in the smaller different venues. We were down in Mexico, you know, uh, Mexico City a few places at the beginning of the tour. And it's so much fun to play

in places we don't go all the time. And, uh, you know, it's one thing to play in Cancun where it'll probably all be Americans, but if you go to Mexico City or Monterey or Guadalajara or whatever, then it's, the audience is all Mexican people. And, and it, and it's just, It's so much fun to play for a really different audience. And when we were down there, we had like a week or so, maybe a little more than that, somewhere around there when we were just all rehearsing together. And that was fun, actually. I think a lot, hopefully some new music will come out of that.

I think it's very fortunate, especially now. I mean, there's ups and downs, right? But the way the band is right now, I feel like is as much fun playing with these guys as I've ever had. So, you know. I was going to ask about that. Like, the band has morphed so much in the past, I don't know, 10 years. Like, how do you, where do you find the happiness and where do you find the right thing?

Yeah, and adjusting. I'm going to add that to your question, Bill. Like, and adjusting to life after Leroy's transition. Yeah. Like, how do you? Because Roy was like, Roy and Carter, Roy is like the first person that I, is like, you don't have better friends than him he's difficult friend but you know you know and and musically at he's just there's no one like him he was so unique and Jeff coffin put it beautifully one one who plays sax with us now

but but Jeff said um what Roy had and didn't realize much of the time was he had his own voice and that's like what every horn player dreams about and and it's true like Roy just had this like I could hear a recording like just to hear one note one note and it just and i it just like roy just um the memory of him but i think you know so we go we really miss him but you know and you go you go up and down and but right now the way the band is you know there's lots of gratitude and um you know because you know we still we're still paying for our own toothpaste and so um so that's good and we're living uh living well and it seems like the audiences are still enjoying it.

So, you know, this is, it feels like right now, the last five years or so has been a really good, a really good period for us. I really feel grateful about it. I also love playing, you know, by myself. I also love playing with just me and Tim. I don't know, any opportunity to, the change is good, too, you know. To scale down.

Okay. I'm thinking of life with Steve and Jonas back when we were in the house together. All right. Oh, God, memories. Dave. Yeah. Peanut butter. In the fridge or outside the fridge?

Outside the fridge. Outside the fridge. Agreed. After it's open? Yeah. Always. All you probably do that same thing with ketchup and mustard. Y'all leave that outside the refrigerator.

Wait, you leave peanut butter inside the fridge, liar? Me, if you opened it. Yeah, anything that's open should go in the fridge. Y'all don't read the label. I don't read. If you're going to leave on the shelf for a couple months, maybe. Yeah. But I, you know, we go through our peanut butter.

It's just, it's a, and we get the, you know, we get the crunchy all, all natural. But I think it's the same with the other ones. It turns into, it's, it's impossible. It's like spread. Cement. Oh, and the refrigerator. I have to take it out and leave it there anywhere. It's a storage of bread.

if we're really going to ask questions this random i got i got a few questions in my own oh shit so dames ms massagic his head here we go my first random question is um there's a famous piano player slash arranger that did a lot of work on my favorite jazz label called c t i his name's david matthews he's been heavily sampled as well so yes i might know who he is and i was just wondering if because of the name did you ever meet him or cross over with him or have publishing issues with him in any way because or have you ever heard of David Matthew? Yeah, and we've had some, but but it's been more amusing than anything. I think there was, I think once he, we ran into each other and in a, and I do know him,

but I think he may have come, he had to call the IRS and say, this is definitely not mine. It's not my mistake. Wow. His estimates got blown up by Dave. I think he may have been like, no, no, no, that's the other guy that sounds a little like Kermit the Frog. And he doesn't do any arrangements. Okay. We had an amusing exchange in an airport.

Okay. Did it a bunch of arranging too, right? Yeah, yeah. I think he's most known for his arranging. So I have a second random question. Do you remember being at Electric Lady Studios in the late 90s? It must have been 97, 98, 99 maybe. And smoking a join with DeAngelo.

Yes. With two other random guys. I was one of the other random guys. Wait a minute. I love that, Steve. I don't know about this. No, but listen. It's before you was down.

So then, so now I'm excited, first of all, to be visiting DeAngelo in the studio. but now I'm fucking so fucking high. And then that's which is fine. That's fine. And he turns on, he starts playing the most insane. You'll agree with me, right? I mean, the music was so beautiful, was so insane. I mean, I hadn't heard any of it.

So maybe you've been, you know, going, listening to it again. Was it voodoo? It was like early voodoo. But it was, but it was not what I heard. I mean, maybe. On the. It took us. four years to make that record yes yeah i'm telling you it was so banana the music he played i i left

like you know you know when you experienced something when it's so beautiful that you know you're partly inspired and then you're also just like what am i what am i doing yeah wow what am i doing i should i need to just go back yourself with a rock yep where i where i you came from and shut the fuck up yeah makes you raise your game is what it does when you hear music like that. Because like you sort of see possibilities. It was, yeah, that was I absolutely remember.

It was so exciting. Oh, the root. Yeah, I think it was playing the song, The Root. Oh, that's a good one. The reason you weren't there. This was like after, this was like vocals,

vocal sessions that just went on for a year. So you weren't there. But tell me how does Dave Matthews wind up at Electric League? He just shows up. Oh, well, that's my, no, that's my actual question is, what album were you working on? because you were there for a session. Well, I think I wonder, because I've done a few different things.

I think you were in your own. I think you were down in the B room. Could we have been doing the Santana? Oh, yeah, yeah. There you go. Which I have to tell you, we planned that for a long time. I have to say my son put on the song that I sang on that Santana record. And then I hadn't heard in a long time.

and I have to say, I'm not sure what was wrong with me. I was a little soft on that song. Kind of irritates me when I hear it. I'm a little soft. I'm a little like, I don't know, I'm a little airy.

I'm a little bit. Hey. Hey. I mean, it's even, it's like Kermit, the frog, like really tired.

None of us like what we do 10 years, 20 years ago. Ever on Santana Records. My son, and I was, he's been getting into, some Santana and he listened to that and he goes he goes it's it's i said oh i sound terrible and he goes my son of he confirmed it by going it's not your best dad oh he's the best he's the best he's the

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We're here, since everyone has a podcast, we want it to as well. And we've had some incredible guests so far. And now our good friend, Nile Horn, is joining the show. How's it going, boys? Hey, Niall. It was the same thing with Slow Hands. Slow Hands is not about anything else, really, is it? You know, or taste so good can be about food.

You do the same, Nick, with some of the stuff that you've done. You too, Joe. Drop what you're doing and listen to Hey Jonas on the I Heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Speaking of Santana, okay, so where did you get the idea? So the thing is, is that we're doing our first stadium show. And, you know, the stadium holds like 70,000 people. But I think an accumulation of it, because we're the opening act, is the roots,

Santana, and then Dave Matthews band. And, you know, there might be, there might be 5,000 people. now I just came from an arena show last week I went I went to witness what I call Swiftville and no no no it was something to behold especially as an outsider yeah it was it was something to be whole but the thing is is that I know a lot of people who I know a lot of kids who went down to that you know just friends of friends and said we're going to Pittsburgh so yeah the town was so packed I had to get a hotel in Cleveland, Ohio.

Like anywhere she goes, she's going to bring at least, at least $2 billion worth of business. So I want to, I want a science study just on that alone. But my whole point was that, so, you know, we're about to go out on stage and then you come and you're like, I'm going to introduce you guys. And I'm like, wait a minute, this doesn't happen. the opening the headliner of the place isn't supposed to come out

you know the bride's not supposed to see the groom on the wedding day and you came out and it was as if the audience knows that you do that because instantly

like within 10 seconds that shit went to like 14,000 people and you not only introduced us but then you stood on stage and watched us because you knew that your fan base would come from their tailgate parties outside to watch you watch us.

So where did you get that idea from? Because that's, that's, you didn't have to do that. But where did you get that idea from? Well, you know, it's probably pretty simple. So I, um, I had a few, you know, experiences when we were coming up, you know, we had a few experiences where you know the where the audience was coming for the main and and and and that was always it was it was quite often it was humbling and sometimes it was sometimes things turned out well i mean we had a great time we opened up for the dead one time in vegas and and and everyone had warned us

that the the dead audience is not into the opening act yeah man and then the funniest thing is um they loved us which maybe says something about us. They were all dancing and spinning around. They're having a blast. But it wasn't always like that. And I remember one specific time. It was, I think Carter and I went to, I think we were actually playing between this blues traveler had two sets.

They were playing two sets. And we were playing between them. Oh, wow. Okay. And there are these two dudes. right in front of me in the audience. And so my monitor's there and then these two dudes and they were just at the top of their lungs,

they were screaming like essentially like, fuck you, you fucking suck. Fuck you, fuck. And it was like they would have taken a break anyway. They were so furious and they didn't start. They were relentless. And then I kept like, it's, I could barely, I mean, that's all I could hear.

And then I kept turning around to Carter because he's, you know, he's a great drummer, but he's also quite often my therapist. And I'm like, these dudes are, these guys are really fucking wearing me out. And Carter's like, just play the fucking song because they were wearing it out too. And we went out a few. But I always remembered that. And I always remembered like, like I wanted to say, they invited us to come and play in between their fucking set. Right.

Right, right. So I guess that that was the motivation was just that, like, I was really excited that you guys were opening the starting the show. Like, so I was, I want to make sure that the, you know, like, it's the whole show. Right. So that's how I felt about it. This was the, it was selfish. All right. So check it.

Check it. You just reminded me a one of the most hilarious moments open. for you. Okay. So we did Philadelphia with you first. Then we did aforementioned Giant New York where, you know, I had to fire. Oh yeah. And then, and then, okay, so we get to Boston, right? And now we're kind of feeling ourselves like, okay, this is not intimidating. We got this. You know, because even we were, you know, we just started going to the next level. So this is all very new to us.

So this is some Daddy Warbucks meets Annie sort of like experience for us where it's like... All right. So then we get to the first song, right? We get to the first song. And already, this is the first day, this is the first day that we have the new implemented communication mics

that we saw you guys have him, right? So I'm realizing that we can play, do background vocals and crack jokes. And, you know, so we're in our zone. And then the whole audience was like saying like, huh, whew, huh, huh, whew, wha, and you know, by the time we got to song three, I was like, yo, we are killing shit, yo.

I know how this says. I was like, yo, do fucking Dave Matthews might kick us off the tour. for kicking his ass so much. We are fucking killing. And the whole eyes, uh, right? I said, yo, we are fucking killing shit, y'all. Let's keep it up. And the monitor guy was like,

um, actually guys, they're saying Yankees suck. Yankees suck. And I was like, wait, what, what are you talking about? He's like, uh, he has a Yankees cap on. And we have the Yankees cap on.

Tarique. Tarique. He's from Philly anyway. Right. But that's the thing. Tarreek is not, he's not a sports guy. He was just matching his outfit. And no.

And, and like, but this was also in 2004 where. Oh, yeah, 2004. Ooh. Where Boston beat their ass. Right. So, oh, my God. We thought we... That's a pretty good...

That's a pretty good story that we thought we was killing it. And then... And then suddenly the audience was like, yes, yes! Now throw it! Now throw it! No, he did. And literally...

And then Tarreek was like, oh, I'm sorry, y'all. I was just color coordinating my outfit. Like, I didn't mean any offense, and he threw it. And they just... Yeah. Quick music questions.

we on this because Amir always talks about Dave Matthews band and the dead and BC Boys kind of being his blueprint as far as the structure of what they did and shows and stuff. Dave, when you were creating your band, was there other bands that you looked at in that way? Like from a business structure or from just touring or anything that you were like, this is what we're aiming towards. I was, I have to say that I was going pretty blindly. And it was really, you know, I was really excited about playing in a band, you know,

and I was really excited about Leroy and Carter and Stefan. I was just, it was just like a, there was, there was something that was happening that was exciting, you know, like playing this one gig where it was like, I think it was Earth Day. And it was one of our earliest gigs. And we were supposed to go on like second or first. and then the band that was supposed to go on after us said,

hey, could you go, we got another gig, and so could you go later? And we're like, okay. And that happened over and over again until we were, I think we were the last band to go on. And it was an evening show and it was on a mall. And I remember when we got up to play, nobody knew who we were.

We didn't even know who we were. And then, you know, there's probably of the, maybe there was a thousand people there at one point but when we went up there there was a hundred people or something and um but boy when carter when we started when we started they all got up they all started dancing and so it was like this funny moment of like we're there's something we got something going on and that sort of brown shawtsville and then you know we started you know got a couple of odd gigs here and there and they didn't always work out but there was something that pulled us and i think you know it was meeting the right people who had had ideas

about how we could get up in front of more people and you know it's starting to play in universities and and the words started started going around i think the fact that we didn't have a lot of music and we improvised and and we had to make shit up and and so the shows were varied and different like i think that i remember there was a lot of colleges when we played that where people would Do you know any replacements? And we'd be like, no. No. You guys suck.

You know, they'd get a lot of. Well, wait a minute. So you're telling me that your college presence was based on filling in for other acts because that's how we came up. And it wasn't eventually it wasn't that. I mean, it was like, but I mean, we went from like sometimes being accepted because somebody in a college liked us to like sort of like colleges were we'd go to places we'd never played before and everyone would be singing our and we didn't have any music out and

everyone would be singing along it got really it got we got this little cult thing in the in the yeah in the universities that was kind of crazy you know i remember uh we went up to we we had this nightmare where we drove over these snowy mountains we were supposed to go around the mountains because it was the middle of winter in maine and it but we didn't but we didn't nobody they sent us the wrong instructions and we went over the top and it was a nightmare we we we slid down a mountain in a van with a trailer and when we got there we were pretty we were pretty hot and we're and we were two hours late they were like you're late and you know we're like fuck you but then when we got on stage and we started playing the crowd was really excited and they

were a priority you know wasted it but they all started singing all the music so loud all the songs to us. And so it was kind of like just, what the hell's happening? We haven't even been here. We never even know at this mountain. What year was the sea change for you? Like what year was the year in which,

and how intimidating was it to like, wait a minute, what do you mean we can play stadiums now? Like, I mean, I remember getting to the, one of the guys who worked with us, one of our A&R guys,

when we played before we had to put out an album or anything, but we were going to put out an album. And we were playing like Irving Plaza, I think. and it was packed and the and the head of our record company said how much how much money did we have to pay to get all these people here and you know so much it was so disconnected sort of the record industry we were was just that they had nothing he couldn't even he didn't even I think he had barely heard of us and so you know it was it was a funny we were almost like chasing in a funny way

We were working hard, but we were like chasing our, chasing the audience in a funny way. We weren't, right. But they were chasing us. I don't know what the right analogy would be. Yeah, it seems like it's a small amount of groups in this world that have existed that have a following in common like you. Like I was just talking to, I have a high school girlfriend that as long as y'all have been out, her and another girlfriend have been following you guys.

And they've done like up to the coast. They started at the top and they've gone down. These are black girls, which is also kind of really dope too because they say they they see each other at Dave Matthew show. That's like that's a whole other contingency of like black people who like really literally physically follow you. Yeah. It's really real.

Four of my staff members are like true Dave heads. And shout to Candace, Bobo and Zinger Pairs. They wanted me to say their names in this episode, and Zingabrian. I got a question. In the 30 years of touring and whatever, what's the best thing you've seen from the stage that you say on the microphone back to Carter

that gets the best laugh from the band? What's the best? thing. All I can think about is is, is, titties. Titties. I knew it was nasty. You know, and it was, you know,

definitely, definitely jazz fest. Seems like jazz fest, there's a lot of tith. Yes. You think, I will say something that's funny. If you just, if you just look a little further, like, because usually it's on. someone's shoulders. Yes.

So I think it's funny when the person that's carrying the person that has the tities doesn't know that the tithes are out. And I may not know, but sometimes when they find out there's the sort of like this. Suddenly there's people and then everyone's excited and then so that there's there's a different There's different nuance. It's, it can be a nuanced situation where there's different emotional,

there's different input, there's different excitement and different perspectives, not just, based on alcohol content too. Anything. They're not as many boobs nowadays as, you know, they're like different boobs,

alt boobs, different kinds of boobs. I have a, I have a non-titty question, if that's all right. So with, regards to what we were discussing with touring and you mentioned the Grateful

Dead and you mentioned you opened up for them once so at the time and I'm not sure if we're around the same age or whatever but I was in 93 let's say you mentioned I was 23

and we had in college we had seen a lot of Grateful Dead shows prior to Jerry passing away and either they were either winding down or he had already passed and you were on on an upward trajectory or just come out in a way and in at least in my little group it was like well what now and then it was kind of like

like well dave matthews band now you were the you were going to be the next thing jerry garsia well not necessarily but like the next the next band that people could literally follow around physically and travel around and tour with them and tailgate and that have that whole kind of deadhead type of situation. So did you sense any of that? Or was that just between me and my friends where we felt that you were the next coming of, let's say, that type of touring?

Yeah, I think we definitely felt like some, I definitely remember feeling like some of that was happening. But then, you know, I also think about, like fish were, you know, peers. And they definitely held that place. And then when I think about the bands, we kind of came up in that time, I suppose, somewhat a culture of 70s rock,

and a lot of that being The Dead, was like, if you think of there was like Colonel Bruce and there were all these sort of interesting bands that were also sort of a crossover with jazz and stuff. So there seemed like there was a sort of a ground swell. of bands that were kind of doing that and we were super lucky obviously and so I felt that I remember we were in um we were in like within a couple of days of Jerry dying we are in San Francisco and I remember walking around you know and and people were like literally in the

people walking around the streets literally saying what do we do right no it was this it was It was kind of amazing to see these people who had like their whatever, wherever they were in their adult lives had really been wrapped around that culture. And I don't think anyone will ever replace that or take over. And we may have certainly gotten some of that or been, you know, in some ways similar to what they represent. and at times maybe more effective in our spontaneity than others. But I don't think, I don't think that ever, you know, they were so unique that I kind of felt, even though it wasn't as big a part of my musical upbringing, when I was in San Francisco and walking around and people were going like, what are we going to do?

Like, I was like, wow, this is like a different world of musical cult, musical devotion that I've never, you know, that, I mean, the Beatles had theirs, but they never had anything like that. They never had, like, people going, what am I going to do? I mean, I remember being heartbroken when John Lennon died, but it wasn't going to change my bus schedule. Right. Well, when the, but when the Beatles broke up, there were people running around saying, what are we going to do?

Oh, wait. Let me, let me ask, like, for you, though, is a jam ban a four-letter word to you because I don't, I don't, I don't, you know, I never, way more advanced than I'll say at least 80% of that circuit. I mean, there's some cats now, like snarky puppy that's kicking ass, but they're kicking ass. And then, you know, they're not. Champ in either. But they're not, right, they're not.

But it's interesting, though, because that's, that's scripted. I think it's where we didn't decide, you don't decide where you go, where you get put, you know, in some ways. And so I don't feel like that. I never felt like we belonged to, I always thought that was a somewhat, it was just a term, a convenient term, you know, sort of. odd, you know, and that we got an audience and we get to play for them. And I, you know, in a weird way, jam band, I don't know who came up with it, but it's, you know, obviously jamming as people do that. But, but it seemed to be somewhat dismissive, you know. You know, it's like, yeah, if someone's using jam band, it's usually in a disparaging way, like a critic.

Their roots are a jam band. Like, they're jamming. Well, the thing was, we tried to avoid it because I saw some of the bands catching. flag for it, but then, you know, for us, I feel like, especially in the state of black music, the band is dying, the group is dying, a level of musicianship is dying. So we're now, we have this like vigorous, like purpose to literally carry the history of like a hundred years of black music on our backs in our show. So we got to do break beats and we got to do hip hop and we got to do jazz and we got like so i think our thing is a little different and also in this

place where i just i've learned not to manage people's expectations anymore so you know if you notice like i well i don't know if you know it's not being at root shows but i purposely stopped doing drum solos like maybe in 2007 because i didn't want to get pegged as a jam band so it's like, oh, I'll stop doing drum solos. But, I mean, now I don't care. But it's just like, I think, you know, well, his jam band might be my Neal Soul. Like, I remember, like, I'm not Neal Soul. That's something that a carpet board made up.

So that's why I wanted to know if jam band was a four-letter word. So I get where you're coming from with that, too, because, but mainly as a dismissive thing. Because the funny part is that, you know, when I first heard Carter, he was playing in the band called Secrets and is like this most insane fusion band and much of different you know tim had played with them and i think roy may have sat in with them a few times there's i mean they were crazy there's insane band everybody was better than the other guy you know and i used to watch them and then roy i mean he played anything but i'd see him he'd be playing jazz and and um and beautiful just you know the first one of the first times i ever saw roy i just could

I couldn't even believe that this, this gem lived in this town I'd moved to to be closer to my mom. You know, I was like, oh my God, this guy's insane. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, he came, suggested to us. So, so the backgrounds of where everyone came from was not from, like, it wasn't because everyone was listening to the dead. So we didn't have that connection to that, that idea. Right.

Okay. I mean, I had one. I had one dead album. It was acoustic record. And every time I start describing it, dead fans go, oh, you had that record. So, but,

and I loved it. But I, you know, but, I, you know, but, and I loved that. It was, it was a, yeah,

probably this is, it was, it was a live record. It was a studio, it was acoustic. Yeah. At, it was at Radio City Music Hall.

Steve, you're a deadhead? I'm deadhead adjacent. All my friends, my friends in, in college were deadheads. So they, they,

they dragged me to, a bunch of shows. And, you know, but as you guys are talking, I mean, there's, there's, there's obviously crossover between a band like the Grateful Dead and Dave Matthews band, even though there's no direct influences necessarily. And then there's, there's crossover in the audience between the roots and the Dave Matthews band. I've been at festivals.

Absolutely. The roots fit in great with quote unquote jam bands, the same, same set. Well, I think, if anything, we've learned a shapesift. So, you know, we, we've safe sifted to. any band that we open for. So it's just like live. I love it. Yeah.

Did you ever meet Jerry that one time you opened up for him? Did you meet him? I did not. We had this, we have this habit and we did it with a lot of the bands that we opened up for is we would just stay out of the way. And I don't know what it is. Just like we're going to open up.

Like if we're going to open up for the stones, just go to your dressing room and we shut the fuck up. And then and then the weird thing is that, a lot of the time, then you do meet them. So, you know, I get to meet Bob, but I didn't meet Jerry that time. You know, you never done a dead in company or feel less than friends or none of that?

I haven't, you know, maybe I have not. Ask one final question? Yes. Dave, your band has covered a lot of tunes, Peter Gabriel, Bob Dylan. What's a song you wish? Yeah, that's sledgehammer. God damn.

Sledgehammer slamming. It always has been, whatever. Jesus Christ. Dave, like, what's what's the song you wish you wrote? What's the one song you wish that... Well, Sledgehammer. But I'm so outside, you know, I mean, that's a, that's a, that's an insane, that's a perfect song, you know. It's like the whole, I don't know.

That's, it's perfect. It's impossible. There's a lot of songs I wish I wrote and, and, but I, you know, I don't. What's your favorite Beatles song? That's, that's an impossible thing to say. But, well, you answer the Starbucks question, you know, which is your favorite drink? You can answer this. Like so quickly, too.

He knew like. Well, I know. If I pull over at Starbucks, exactly what I can have. It's going to do. I know what it's, you know. But I mean, my mood will change. Hey, Bulldog is pretty. That's, um, always.

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We go beyond the game to the people and the stories that make it great. A soccer game is a festival. It's not just a game. It's your culture. I took an elbow to my head which cracked my skull. It is an American game. The Brazilians don't like hearing that, though. Are they the only ones that don't like that?

Nobody likes that. As we get ready for the Men's World Cup this summer, listen to American Football as part of the My Coutura podcast network, available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Hoda Kotby, host of the podcast, Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby. Together, we're going to have meaningful conversations with the world's most fascinating people, like when actress Olivia Munn shared how she overcame fierce health challenges. I've gone through breast cancer and then helped my mother through breast cancer,

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And we've had some incredible guests so far. And now our good friend, Niall Horne is joining the show. How's it going, boys? Hey, Niall. It was the same thing with Slow Hands. Slow Hands is not about anything else, really, is it? You know, or taste so good can't be about food. You do the same, Nick, with some of the stuff that you've done.

You too, Joe. Drop what you're doing and listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Before I close, I want to test out my Rapid Fire Random 10, which I think I'm going to lean more into that for future episodes. All right, Dave, I'm really slow at this. No, no, no, no, just rapid fire. Say what's on your mind. All right, what is your secret talent that we don't know? I think I'm a pretty good

I maybe I could have been an artist in a different life illustrator yeah I might have been a painter maybe if I uh wait do you do you paint in your spare time yeah I do I'm all right I'm a collector of artwork so I'll be coming

for you okay anyway text call or FaceTiming text and FaceTime depends who it is no one calls anyone that's a shitty question no one calls anyone calls people. People over 40 call. Trust me. My wife

calls me and I always look at it expecting her face to turn up. But it then I always FaceTime her and then she has me in the cup holder or wherever. Because some people think it's rude to FaceTime cold. You post a text or something

first. Oh yeah. I hate that. I hate that. I text. I generally text. It's pizza night. You're ordering. What are order. Oh, this is pressure. Fresh veg or a lot of meat. Wow.

So wait. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, Uncle, yeah, Cousa Jake, fresh veg or lots of meat. Either way. Well, wait a minute, Amir, you got to ask if you're in Philadelphia, is it a cheese steak or is it a chicken

cheese steak? Ooh. I don't, I don't, I don't I gotta tell you, I don't want to cross. I always want, you have to tell me where to, this is how I answer that question. Where should I get? Oh, no, no, no. From now on, I'm sending every comrade of mine.

Here you go. J.L. Just shut up, like you. J.L. Jupiters. Yes. I don't give them J.L. Jupiter's YouTube page and he will lead them to the best stakes. All right. How many, how many, I got five more left and then I'll let you go, Dave.

How many unread texts are in your phone? That I have not read that someone else has sent me. I, well, I suppose that's the only ones there'd be, right? Right now, there are 335 in my phone. None. 499. No, hold on. I'm going to text Dave Matthews and blow this shit up.

No. I don't always respond, but I always check my text. All right. So you at least check, but you don't respond. But emails. You're not an email person. Like a million. Oh, Jesus.

About, you know. But Dave, you be careful of the read receipts, the red receipts, okay? Be careful of that because you're not answering them. You know, people can see when you're looking at the text message. No, you can hide it. You can hide it now. I don't care. That little thing that does this.

No, it literally said, we get a message. It says he read it. He just ain't answered. Right, exactly. I know. But there's a, there's a switch button on your iPhone that can take that off. I immediately did that because everyone's like, I know you read it because it says you read it. And so I was like, nope, I'm not.

I don't trust that shit. Sometimes, sometimes I, if it's like a holiday or it's my birthday, I'll just paste like thanks love you and yeah oh god yes I'd be like thanks love you thanks love you thanks love you thanks love

and I mean it's that but but it's like that's sometimes you just have to take it you have to like happy Father's Day thanks love you thanks love you back at you quality one back at you all right four more what's your ice cream flavor

I love ice cream there's a great place Molly Moons here in Seattle that I love but this I love all I love ice cream but I got to tell you there was this my most emotional response there's uh and it's you know I wish it was organic and but it's ice it's ice cream I wish it was healthy it's ice cream is uh black raspberry chocolate ice cream from um it's a it's a specific groceries like raspberry with chocolate chips beat of shit that sounds like cherry Garcia from Ben no no no no that's cherry not it's but It's black. I think it's black.

Different. It's chocolate. It's just, it's not, there's no lumps or chunks. Oh. It's a great. Oh. Lumps or chunks. I, too, I'm a connoisseur of the ice cream.

So I, that's, that's different. It's from a, it's like a, it's made by, but I can't remember the chain. I was really into it. And then I was like, I can't just, that's the only time I've had a really. Didn't you have your own flavor, no of the Ben and Jerry's? Never. It didn't make it like fish. It didn't make it.

Jerry Garcia. I think we had two. Jerry Garcia is the king. Jerry Garcia. That Jerry Garcia is good. I do the fish food is good too. Fish food is a game change. I got to try it.

I got to try it. All right. Amir, what's next? Yeah, what's next? I'm sorry. Yeah. We're making your questions longer. Okay.

What time do you wake up? Ooh. And what are the first three things you do when you wake up that's habitual every day? Amir, you are very good at this. Okay. So when I'm at home, I like to wake up early and take my boy to school. Although that's going to end soon because he's going to be. But I like the process of getting up with him.

But when I'm on the road, I don't have to do that. And then I like if I get up before my wife, then I don't do this. But if I do get up after her, I like to make the bed. and always the first thing I do is is make myself coffee I like to make my wife coffee but I don't always know how she likes it because we're always changing

but I like I just like that's the first thing I don't want to I don't want to do anything else that's what I want to do that's what I do first on the road I coffee and then exercise but at home coffee and then think wish i should be going to exercise that's what i think

like i've been busy but but it's been three i've been home for a few days and every day i say tomorrow i'm going to exercise and then i don't yeah i got a trick for that all you got to do is put your workout clothes on in the beginning of the day when you wake up and it'll make you almost do i look i look at my workout clothes i sleep in my workout clothes i know i look at them And then I go, yeah, but I'm going to put those other ones on and I'll put the work on later. And my workout clothes involved just so you know also involved like the the compression knee things, which is. And so I put the compression knee things on. Sometimes I'll put the compression knee things on and my whole workout outfit, which is pretty amazing.

And then I don't work out sometimes. Because you're tired from putting on all that compression shit. That shit will tire you out. Pulling shit up. Yeah. Okay. If the universe grants you a five-year extension to prolong your favorite age.

Ooh. Did you chat GPT this shit? Like, what is happening? You did. No, no. I'm just, I threw the script away and I'm just having the conversation with my friend. All right, Dave.

The universe allows you to live five years. What's your age? and your favorite age, what age would it be? And why? This is what's coming to my mind, and so I have to say it. But I was going to say 56, which is what I am, but I'm, because I'm feeling pretty good. Yeah. But an age that struck me was 50.

I didn't think when I turned 50 that I'd be, that I would notice something. But I noticed something that I wish I noticed when I was 30. which is I didn't stop giving a fuck. But I stopped giving a fuck about shit that I shouldn't give too much of a fuck about. Oh, teach me. Great one. Oh, teach us. Because I was managing people's expectations.

Yeah. I stopped. I was like, you know, did I do something wrong? I didn't think they're wrong. I'm trying. I want to be, I want to be present. I want to be helpful. I won't want to be that. But, but I, but, you know, I, I'd stopped caring. Playing music started to be easier because I was, I felt like people would rather see me stick my tongue out and have a good time than when I'm playing on stage. Then they would want to see me wondering whether I am doing my job. blow. Okay. All right. Second and the last. This is Exessential.

Is the grass greener on the other side? I like that. Wasn't there a book in the 70s that was that was called The Grass is Always Greener over the septic tank? Yes. Timothy Leary. Oh. Timothy Leary. Really? No. I made that up. I made that up. I made that up. I made that up. I was totally

fucking made that. That doesn't sound. That doesn't sound right. Not at all. Not at all. It's like there's a rat at dinner. I don't know what's happening. But we did actually have a septic problem when I was a kid in New York and out on the front lawn. We didn't realize, but then the septic tank blew up, but we had to have it, you know, drain, whatever you do. You had to have a new one put in or they had to have it drained. I don't know, what happened. Anyway, then tomatoes started growing on the lawn. And so my mom was like, free tomatoes. And my brother's like, I'm not eating those.

Shit tomatoes. They're poop tomatoes. They're pooped tomatoes. Yeah, they went through us and then they grew in the yard. Wait, that's such a thing? Yeah, I think if you poop tomato seeds and you turn the soil. No. And then you turn the soil.

No, Dave. You got fucking with us? David, there's a story here. My brother said, I'm not eating those tomatoes because I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't eat those poop tomatoes. That's disgusting. Did he say poop tomatoes? This might be my favorite interview. Like, there's weird things that happen.

Like, is it a fig? The fig is the fig that in order for a fig to be. Oh, truffle. No. In order for a fig to be, to be, to turn. to a fruit to be fertile is it has a wasp has to have maybe have been to another the opposite sex and then get stuck in the flower and then the wasp gets absorbed into the fig so when you eat the fig there's been a was absorbed it's no longer there there's not like a wing in there but i'm just there's

there's gross things out there it is and badly they use coffee made it from shit right so national geographic dame yeah all right what's your last Last one, Mir, go ahead. Yeah. Dave Matthews. Okay. How many push-ups can you do? Go.

I think I could do 30. No. Really? Yeah. That's impressive. That's impressive. That's impressive. Really?

Go ahead, Dave. Go ahead. I'm not going to do them right now for it. No, no, no, no. I mean, I thought you was going to ask the other question. Dave, yay or nay, microdose? Yes. Dave Zee.

I knew he was with us. Of course. And sometimes Macrodose. Macrodose. Dave, did you just not do a great interview on Howard Stern where you talked about how you wrote the title track to your last album on Mushrooms?

Oh, shit. Certainly was fantastic. Certainly some of it, because it was, it was, I mean, that was, I mean,

it was for my good fortune, there, there are, they are around sometimes and mushrooms and that pandemic elicits it's the mushroom seems like a good time I mean why not

what the fuck oh my god Dave dog this is definitely like doing a show with an old friend because I hardly ask I hope you're publicist and your label ain't mad that we didn't talk more about song structure

and sorry the new record's great Yes. Sorry. We don't need to, you know. Thank you, man. I appreciate it. I really enjoy talking. This is what I want to talk about, what we talked about, exactly.

Well, that was beautiful. Hopefully, we'll have you back on some more. I really enjoy it. And it's nice to hang out with you all. And I tell you, I'm your quest. I'm always happy to see you. Thank you, sir. And I love your music.

And I think you're unbelievable. And I love the work you're doing. and I, you know, that I love is music. How much that film meant to me and, you know, or that series meant, it's just like, I can't tell you. Another summer or so. Thank you. Thank you so much.

You already squeeze it, but I just made me so happy. Like, it's like, I love looking for the truth that's in our history and, and I just, and you did it so eloquently and shared it with everyone, I think, is just magic. And so thanks for having me. Stop smiling, Laiaaia, because she's smiling because she knows that... You're doing good. No, I love the compliments. He wasn't all...

Dave, you know, he wasn't always able to take the flowers, so he's doing real good. He's still cutting you off slightly, but this is really good. This is really good. This is progress. I got to go because I have another interview to do, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you, Dave. I appreciate it. This is awesome. Take care.

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