The Questlove Show - QLS Classic: George Clinton Part 1

Episode Date: February 5, 2024

In 2020, Team Supreme was blessed with an extensive conversation with George Clinton of the Parliament-Funkadelic collective. This two-part conversation features deep-dive discussion and the kinds of questions listeners will only find at Questlove Supreme. Check out part ONE of our George Clinton class. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This was taped in mid-2020 during those early days of the pandemic, so Team Supreme was still lurking to get along virtually. But the quality of the conversation is amazing. I love this one. I hope you enjoy it. Ladies and gentlemen, Funk upon a time and a galaxy far away in the land of Cheastakotopia well

the five-year-old Afro-Head boy with dreams aspirations and power of creative abundance and he wished upon a star one day that this youngan would

utilize his talent so that one day he could bug and pester the bejesus out of his musical idols who raised him And this is that moment, ladies and gentlemen. You know the show.

You know the crew. You know Fonte. You know Sik Steve. Unpaid Bill. Laia. Let us get into it. This is the moment I've been waiting for all my life. My first real conversation with God himself.

George. Yes. Yes. All of that. All of that. No. South Carolina's in the building. That sounds like some shit I wanted to say to Smokey Robinson

and I was drawing up in the hometown. No, man. I hear you, you know. No, man. This is a rare moment where, you know, I have access to somebody that has had major input on my, all of our creative juices. I mean, all of us are everybody.

We are all your sons and daughters. And daughter. They are. Illigimate. All right. I'll try not to make it this like it's your eulogy, but, you know, this is definitely a counter for us. Where are you right now?

I'm at home. I'm in Tallahatuck, Florida. I'm sitting there kicking it. I've been painting and shit. I've been chilling. This has been the restful part of my life. Really? You look good, man.

I ain't going nowhere. Good, good. Stay in that bubble. crap. No, I'm not cool. Is this the first real rest that you've gotten? You know, since I was a teenager. Wow. I put it like that. We've been on the road since we was 22 when Tessafai came out. Right. Okay. I had never left the road since then. We lived on the road and moved the city to city and, you know, raised kids, got married, moved country, you know. But this is probably the longest. that we've been down and not doing anything.

And you're not mad at it at all, are you? Oh, hell no, because I had to do it this time. So I take it like, I don't stress myself. If I can't do nothing about it, I do the best I can and funk it. You know, I got it. I have a good excuse up to paint. And we make music. I mean, we send shit back and forth online to each other.

Studio only about five miles from here, but I send this shit down there. In back, I don't even chance that shit. But, I don't know. I don't have I go fishing. Yeah, I was going to say, I know you're big on fishing. Like, are you doing a lot of that now? Oh, hell yeah. That's the only I sneak to the boat, get on the boat.

We mask up. But I do a lot of that. Okay. I've been chilling for real just, you know, luckily he's been chilling that, you know, ready for this time. Right. Because we got a lot of shit that's getting ready to come out when this thing go down.

We was working on some bad shit, you know, with the group. The kids, they was killing them. We was getting ready to do some hell-off our shit, but it's good because it gave us a chance, sit down and get it together and do it properly. That's good. At the same time, you know,

I just got a lot of my catalog back, you know. Congratulations. Yes. Wait, you finally got it back. Oh, yeah, I got it back. Now I'm going, getting ready to go through some things that publicizes it. You're going to see.

Ben Crump is the lawyer, you know, civil rights part of it. Right, right. What will this mean for what will this mean for funketeers everywhere? Like, are we going to... Matter of fact, I want everybody that has worked with us that got a beat, you know,

contact Sheila Jackson Lee. We all doing this together. She wanted me to get all the people that has a beat, together so we can make up one proper announcement. All those people get their copyrights back. They can get them back right now.

They, you know, recapture their copyright. You said, I don't have them. Oh, no, this is, I'm telling me, this is civil rights. This is going to be a civil right. Yeah. Like I said, yeah. How long has this happened? Well, I've been in the battle almost 30 years,

but I've been, you know, fighting to get it to that level. of, you know, get it to where the Congress, I was with John Conyers. He took it up for a long time. You know, we couldn't get nothing past. But now, you know, the copyright capture thing is over now. So I got a lot of minds in on time. And a lot of other people got theirs in.

They just don't know it. And they're not telling them that they try to make them think that they have to fight it. They don't have to fight it. It's theirs now. So we're going to make a big. announcement that especially everybody with us but not only us a lot of people that work with us even the people that sample of music they've been in it long

enough now for some of their rights to be coming back to them yeah you know Prince and Prince got his back you know right so it's that it's that time in this generational wealth is what it's about okay you can't pass it on to your airs if they tie you up which is what they're trying to do right you know trying to make it there's a whole new law thing going on. That, you know, they tell you just how they do it. And we got to

help, we got the writer report that Shil and Jackson Lee to explain all those things that needed done. So if you know anybody that's stuff that's that's having a problem with the copyright recapture, they should definitely get in touch with Ben Crump and

Charlie Jackson Lee or myself. Wow. So does this mean that for the first time your post 76 Funkadac Delic catalog will finally see the light of day like we've not coordination on their groove or Uncle Jim

or hardcore jollies I got that album that master back knee deep I got those back I own those two I was hesitant to put them out until I got them all off the market people that was putting them out illegally I had to clean it up first

So I got, I own those, been on those for a long time, but lawyers were keeping me from getting to them. You know, but I got those in, especially need even one nation. That's why you hear so much about, and Tomic Dog. Even your capital stuff? I got Atomic Dog, the computer game. So Loobzilla, all that stuff? Yeah, so now we put all of them in,

and that's what we're making sure that, that whole catalog recapture thing is a, you know, You know, it's true for Elvis Presidency and his family. It's true for John Lennon and his family. So it needs to be true for everybody. That ain't got nothing to do with race. So what does this also mean for the Westbound catalog? Same thing.

Yo! Same thing. So is Armand Baladian? Is he still alive? Is he still alive? Is he still alive? He's still alive. He's still alive.

And all that, all that's going to become a big. It's going to be a big issue because you read the book, the book I put out. You read the Jane Pira's thing in the back. You got to explain to our audience. And that's the thing. Y'all also does it recapture. I want to treat.

I'm going to try to not ask such obscure questions because this is not just you. My level of people knowledge might be about, so I might have to break it down. Can you explain to them the situation? Right now I'm so elated that that you own this. stuff now. I know you've been trying for the longest to own this. Yeah, I had the book, the brothers be your like, George, I ain't that funny, kind of hard on you. You know, that came

out and it was out for a while and they took me to court on that book. So I'm still in court five years later. I'm still in court. For the book? For the book. Why? Yeah. I mean, the thing was to kill that information, to kill the information in that book. They said that defamation of farming because I told everything that was he already said himself, you know, in deposition. But yeah, they got me in court right now. The main thing is to keep it slowed down to where I can make no moves. You know, long, I've been in court for the last 15 years with my lawyers and him and Armand

and the major record companies. So all of that's coming to a head now because we're going to investigate the whole copyright recapture. We got out back, but we need. everybody to get out of the way to let us make those collections because it's still hard to collect from the different in the societies if you know if you ain't got just a

powerful set of people behind you and lawyers you know that's pretty hard for them because they got to be in business they got business with the company so they mess up their business to find to protect you especially a catalog as big as ours that is a lot

nobody don't nobody want to get at up what they've been stealing with that They go down fighting. You're talking about a lot of years, a lot of careers of people that sample those songs, use those songs, license those songs, that we never, not only myself, but none of the band members. You hear them all, tell me, no, they didn't get their money. I agree with them. They didn't get it.

So I'm sorry, just for clarification, you saying that you guys never received anything from any of these songs until? No, no, no, I ain't going to say no, received anything. anything. I'm talking about that sampling and that licensing stuff. No, we don't, we're not, we haven't been participating in that at all. We, you know, we got atomic dog recently in the last three years, okay, but no, no. I mean, the money to keep paid off it out alone. Even since I got it, I've been fighting my own lawyers to get the money that's owed to me for it. The main thing was to get it out of my possession. Right. You know, and they did that for a long while, but I bought it and I got it, I got it back, paid $4 million to my own lawyer.

Wow. He's supposed to take that pay. I got it back. Just to clarify it, what I was going to say is probably the most endearing thing about your personality is the fact and your business acumen was the fact that you were so open to working with rappers. Because unlike your counterpart, and I use this word lightly, of course, you know, people consider the pillars of soul music and funk. You and James Brown, James Brown's attitude towards it was, well, I hate samplers, sample, you know, rapper sampling my music and all that stuff. But really not seeing that that's going to just bring it back and make it. And you called it early in an interview, like even in the mid-80s that, no, I like, I like, they.

asked you like, what do you think about, you know, De La Sol taking, you know, needy for me, myself and I? And you were so open to it. You're like, that's great, because what it will do is it'll lead a whole flock of people to my music and to my concerts and whatnot. Like, you saw the vision of it. So it's not that you're anti-sampling and restructuring the music, but the fact that's-pay me my money. Yeah, so many people have had their hands in the pot to, you know, copyright The sampling part of it, the sampling part of it, I welcome. I welcome the sampling part of it. You know, they got them, too.

Most of them didn't get paid either. Oh, dude, I've gotten bit by Armour a few times. And we never got anything that, and he was doing that on behalf of us, supposedly. We never got any of it, got any of it. So, no, that's what's happening. And now that's getting it to be. open up and everybody will be able to see

that nobody in the band got their money. All the other artists that had, you know, all the companies banned together on those sampling because nobody wanted to acknowledge it. So now it's going to come out because we didn't fade the weight. We didn't die all. We're supposed to be out of here by now.

But we said, One Nation under the group, we meant that. We Uncle Jam's Army. We was on the march then. And the clones, with the sampling to me, was just the cloned. You have to have DNA clones. to make something new.

That's what making the music. We said clones of Dr. Funkenstein. We met that far back. We knew it wasn't going to be music on television. How did they sell those K-Tale packages? Yeah. That wasn't, you didn't have to worry about that no more. Nobody got paid for that.

The new thing was going to be samples, and they didn't know how far they were going to get away with it. Not the artists that do it. Kids are going to make music whatever way they can, whatever new way they have to, they're going to make music. And I'm welcome that. I just have to learn how to participate, how to hang in there. But the business people around that use us against each other.

You know, he don't want you to sample it. He's charging you. Most artists wouldn't even talk to me. They were scared to talk to me because they thought I was mad about the samples. They told him, you know, and Army was suing them. Yeah, that was armed and not you. So everybody knew that, but like I said, it's coming out now. Well, that's beautiful.

And they sued me for the book. In the book, you know, I'm the last one, five years. Everybody else got sued with me, got off, but I'm still there. Right. You know, hoping I would go away. That's what I did, shake the gate and Medicaid fraud, though. I did those two albums just to reignite my energy, you know, to start to get the kids going. And that's how inspired I was, once.

I got the book out, I'm ready to make brand new music with whatever we're going from here. This is a new generation. You know, I'm glad you mentioned that. Normally, I start from the beginning, but I think for this particular one, I kind of wanted to start, go backwards. Definitely the Medicaid fraud dog project. Can you, for one, what is your obsession or what is the ideology behind dog? The main characters or... The metaphor.

Your metaphor is for everything. Because that album in particular is such a clever, like political commentary, but using dogs as your main characters. What was the genesis of that? An album I did called Dope Dogs. Right.

Yes, indeed. Okay. Dope Dogs, I have a whole story for that. I wanted to do cartoons, animation, everything, but I never would give it to anybody because I'd have all the characters. And so I tried to do as many dog-related songs just to

keep that concept alive. So I use it in Medicaid fraud dog because it was based on laboratory studies on dogs when they used to do studies on dogs for perfumes and shit like that. Remember, that's what the dope dogs come from.

Not only the drug dogs, but this time the dogs were sniffing out the political bush, in the Obamacare, you know, all the different names they want to call it political drug scene. Everything is about dope.

Everything's about drugs. The whole world is talking about how they're going to get their Medicaid. Okay, and so that whole thing, the dog is sniffing out that information. And most of us are being hooked on stuff, on medicine, and create new diseases with the drugs they give us.

They're giving the certain drugs and those drugs give you side effects, which would be a whole new flock of patients. Right. Okay, now they do. The side effects be worse than the disease. That's what I'm saying. And it's a designer,

designer side effects. It's like designer drugs. That's the era we live in now where we evolve into some, you know, between robots, androids, humans. That's just going to be a blurred line in a minute. You know, it's, you know,

and I've been waiting on this. So the dog, take a dog to sniff that out. The instincts of a dog is primal. You know, whether it's mating or whether it's sniffing out, whatever you train him to sniff out. I love it. And if he's sniffing out the drugs, you get high from sniffing on drugs. So the dogs are going to have it.

So they have to, you know, the dogs be all doped up. So these are the dogs, the characters I got, this dope dog. They all got their own relationship to drugs, whether there's a police dog or whether it's a dope dealer who like to make their dogs fight. And the dogs are like, you know, you used to give me a reward, you know, used to give me a joy, or sniffles, a treat. You know, that's how they train the dog. So that they don't even want to get a dog, no treat.

You know, so these dogs get together and they got their own, like, you know, remember the ninja turtles? These dogs are like that. You know, kind of like Wu-Tang Clan. Yes. You know? And they

got a thing on drugs. They don't, you know, they impartial to the political discrepancies. They just deal with drugs. So that's my partiality

to fucking with dogs and drugs. Tom of all makes sense now. Wait until you hit a new one. You got more dogs for us. Oh, I got one that's coming out that's going to hurt you. Oh, man. Really?

Oh, yeah. Udoll. You know, they're going to be stepping on it. You know how they be dancing to Atomic Dog? Yeah. They're going to be stepping on this one. They're going to be stepping on this one. They're going to be stepping on.

They're going to be stepping. This one here is, I dare your booty not to move. Your butt will be trained. I love when that happened. I love it. You know what I'm saying? When she shake by itself and you ain't got nothing involuntary?

I do, sir. What's that happened? That's just, it's twirking. How long did it take to make the Medicaid fraud dog album? You know, I used some. I mean, I was 38 years, but since the last parliament record, but. Well, between that one, shake the gate, in that it took about three years

you know but I had a couple of songs that I was hold on to the I done maybe five or six years ago that I just kept them until I got them right I did them in a thousand different ways but Medicaid fraud when I got the concept together I got Fred Wesley down there I got you know Chris Days you know I knew the people that I needed for that outside flavor to what we was doing

now and we were sampling our own self by now. We had learned everybody else was sampling, and then everybody got scared to sample anymore. So we start sampling ourselves. I think you're your best sample source. So that's what we like. Yeah, but you know, it's still is an art form to picking that shit out.

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Saturday Night Live and the Big Money Players Network. It's Will Farrell My dad gave me the best advice ever I went and had lunch with them one day And I was like And dad I think I want to really give this a shot I don't know what that means But I just know the groundlings

I'm working my way up through And I know it's a place they come Look for up and coming talent He said if it was based solely on talent I wouldn't worry about you Which is really sweet Yeah He goes but there's so much luck involved

And he's like Just give it a shot He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat. Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right.

It wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks Dad on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. How many reels do you reckon of just unused source material do you have? And can we have them? Yeah. Because for me, for me, like my all-time favorite P-Funk song is New Spaceship, a song which musically has created 20 years before you even completed it in 97.

So how many other like uncooked ideas do you have just sitting in the vault that could come out today and still work? Have you heard, have you heard the sample some of this and sample some of that? All right. I have a slight confessional. Yes. So check this out. I purchased sample some of this, sample some of that. Never opened it.

Because I think in my mind, I always thought, well, this is probably throw away stuff. and, you know, I'm sure that all the prime P-Funk stuff is on actual P-Funk records. And so it wasn't until I talked to DJ Premier, this is about four or five years ago, and I asked him a question about a sample. It was a Nass sample, and he says, oh, yeah, these drums I got,

because my favorite premier sounding drums, I asked, like, where do you get these drums from? And he said, the George Clinton sample some of this, some of that, Pat. So, Nase's represent drums come from that. Practically all of the hard-to-earn album, the drums come from that.

Some of J-Rue's second album, Rath of the Meth. It was mind-blown, and then when I went to it, I wanted to kick myself because, like, it took me 15, 16 years to open up this record. And if I just had the patience

and just sat down and listened to it, I could have been ahead of the game, but... You know, Eric Sermon used to use it a lot, too. Yes, I know, right? I gave him a copy of it down at Dallas Austin Studio. Yes. And most people, like you say, they didn't open it because people, like, if you give it to them, then it's not interesting.

They didn't find it. So it took a lot of people a long time to even look at it, because we were saying here... Now, what I was saying about that album is that most of those samples, came from, we have the whole tracks to those songs. Those are songs. A lot of them came out in the family series, but a lot

of them never came out at all. So that's what a lot of those samples came from songs that weren't released, you know, except for maybe some of them was in the family series which a lot of people don't know about those either. Well, I was going to say, even with the

family series, okay, so there are some captain obvious questions I'm going to ask you. The Junie Morrison song on that family series. Super Spirit. Super Spirit. I think that's the most eccentric creative moment in a life that was always eccentric. Can you talk about Junie Morrison and how, like, what's the process of his creativity?

At least how did you utilize it? Me and him, we did like, pressing myself. I do my part and send you you your part and send it back. We didn't question either. Whatever I did, it was okay, whatever he did, I knew, I'd just had to figure out what my part was. And that's to me, we started to do it. It's a song on that family, she's called Try You.

Yes. Yeah. That's when we actually was getting ready to actually come up with a concept, he thought I was weird, and I thought he was weird. So we got along really good on the weirdness part of it. And we couldn't get quite together, you know, because of the political stuff that was going on around us, that we had no idea who was actually being orchestrated, you know,

and that's a whole other story that we could talk about later. But we could never get together, even when we were doing computer games. I was, you know, of course, at the time I was into my drug thing, But I always can manage to figure a way to work done. But you can't get the work done and watch people that's intentionally trying to keep you from getting the work done. That's a little more than you're bargaining from when you say, I'm getting fucked up. You don't realize when you get fucked up, you fuck up everything. Everything around, you get fucked up.

You know, it takes you a minute to grow up, you know, to get out of that, unless you can wigger your ass out of it. before the duo. But that's what the, Junior and I had a lot of stuff we was going to do. And even like a Medicaid fraud, though, I had to call him, get him out of retirement. Right. You know?

You know, he wasn't trying to do nothing. He was doing some electronic music, but he wasn't trying to deal with the business. But I got in, same thing when we did, when we did, to pour a phone, got, got Gucci. Right. him, you know, the summer swim, the summer swim song. I know every time I do a song with him, it's going to be a level of cleverness and real,

you know, intentional. He know what he's doing. He can do what he wanted, you know, he does what he wants to do once he analyzes, what era we in. That's all we have to think about is what era is this. It's not our old days. It's new, what are they doing that? What is the field?

He analyzed it like that. And he used to come up within a range of whatever the kids. And we relate to kids. I think I said that before. I always try to relate to 9, 10, 11, and 12. Them the ones you call bubble gum, they get on your nerve, everything they think about.

But if you notice, that's the music that always comes back. The music that gets on your nerve that you know how can they get away with this? That's the way it was when we came out with powerful, powerful, power, power, power, What the hell are y'all talking about? That was due.

Same thing, come along. You know, kids take it back to elementary. And it meant to get on your nerve to get your OS out of the way. But if you pay attention to them, I'll dance with you as long as I can.

But otherwise, I'm going to recognize it and try to hang, at least paying attention to what they do. I can spot a young artist, even not knowing anything about it. I would have bet my life on, let's say, Rihanna with

SOS. Right. Cardi B as soon as I heard it. There's certain type of style that's meant to provoke and, but certain people have an artistic thing about it. Certain people can take like Frank Zapper. He could do,

he could go all the way out with but he was intelligent as hell with what he was doing. And he wasn't even doing drugs. That's a really... That's really out there. Was that always your theory because a lot of... I'll say that a lot of the themes of your initial wave of funkadelic...

A P-Funk word... Three blind ice. Yeah, laced in nursery rhymes and limericks. Yeah. But me and Bernie. Bernie myself, I always thought of cartoons... You know, cartoon used classical. musical music.

Okay. So Bernie could play anything he wanted to play in him. And at the height of it, how intense and intellectual it gets, he could still play Mary Had a Little Lamb in there. That's how comfortable he was. You know, in the jazz thing, he had, his time was impeccable. He was just free to do what he wanted to do. And at the same time, we had an Eddie Hazel and Billy Bass,

who was probably the punkist Roy's kids, and then Gary Shaito later on. They were church kids. They all with the church together. You know, Glenn gone. The whole neighborhood was, and they was all 14 and 15 when I met him. I had a barbershop.

They hung out and bought Billy his first guitar. Eddie is. Not Eddie has a guitar, but I both. Billy his person. Really? You brought Eddie Hazel his first guitar? Not Eddie's first.

Eddie had one. He had the Big Gibson, but he was like 15 years old. I bought him in his first rock and roll and he played the Big Gibson for a long time. Really? But when he got to the studio, you know, yeah, I had to get them all, because we didn't know. We played with the vanilla fudge, and they had them big amps. And they let us use that shit.

And we heard what we sounded like. We went back to the Manny's in New York and bought everything. We spent all the money we had. and got the loudest, we were the loudest, the loudest, in all of the East Coast. I mean, we had,

I wanted to, oh, I said, I wanted to ask you, you had mentioned him in passing, Glenn Gohens, he was like my favorite singer out of the camp. I mean, his voice was amazing,

and he died so young. What was his story? Kind of, what was his deal? He, him, Gary, he said,

they all went to church together. He was a, a Rans Allen Free. Really? Yeah. Him and what's DJ Rogers, they saw the background.

They saw the background for Bobby Womack. Okay. And they were showing out so much in the background, Bobby's day. This is the Bobby this is the Bobby show.

This is not your show. He fired both of them. That's when Glenn came with us. You know, with Gary and him said, you know, he was singing background with, you know, Bobby Womack. He said, but he goes, he ain't got no job. And Gary and Eddie, and now Eddie can sing his ass of him. And Eddie say somebody can sing, you really want to hear what they sound like.

Eddie Hazel can sing? Yeah, yeah. That's something I'm not going to do that one singing, though. That's something in California, dreaming, right? Yeah, he sung California Dreaming. He's something up for the downstroke. He's a lot of stuff with us. You ever hear, O Lord,

Wild Lord? Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord. I'm sorry, take that back. Father, open our eyes. Yeah. That's him singing backwards. Okay. That's that he singing it? No, you can hear it forward, too. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So, okay. Well, I know that that's open our eyes backwards on, not the Lord's prayer. Uly J&Lite. Yeah, but have you heard it forward? Yeah, yeah. I've heard the four version, yes.

Yeah, yeah. So that group used to practice in my barbershop that made the gospel clefts. They're from Newark. They used to practice in the barbershop. And so that's why we was partial to that song, you know, the gospel clefts. They were to them else. And Eddie just, you know, we would jump from gospel to, you know, anything. That's what we did.

When we did free your mind, your ass, the follower. We was never going to get caught in the position of having to follow up. I want to testify. You know, 45 trying to get another 40. We went so far out. Because I mean, remember, we was at Motown. And during that time, we know how to make a straight record,

how to make a clean record. And we intentionally, you know, got tripped out and just free your mind, your ass, follow. You know, you know, you got Martha, the Bambela singing in the background. I don't even know if she wanted to do it. When? I'm free on my mind. What? Yeah. I mean, we was, I'm telling you, we had, all of them doing that. They didn't, what's his name? Dennis Coffee. Dennis Coffee, Scorpio, yeah. Yeah, he played on, I got a thing. I got a thing. Yeah, I got a thing. He put on quite a few of the songs.

a dentist called. Really? Engineers didn't want to have his name put it on the record of Maggi Brain because I was doing so much feedback and circling, you know, sound on sound.

And I ain't know what the fuck I was doing. I was just doing what sound like Jimmy Hendrix, you know? And as long as I kept it out of the red, you know, I was cool. And so I did an engineer wouldn't even put his name on the record. And years later, he was like.

You were engineer's nightmare even back then. Like, oh, hell yeah. I was really. They were dressing up in those lab coats and still trying to maintain levels and all those things. Oh, they were trying to keep it normal. But I mean, all we have to flashlight. I told them when we did the handclaps on flashlight,

I wanted the handpap to be so loud that if you ran your hand across the CD, you feel a bump in it. Wait, I'm going all over the place. I'm going all over the place. This is, yo, this, bro. Just let him talk. This is 60 years of music, bro. Like, we're not going to get in.

I'm just, just rapid fire. Like, it's too much, dude. Those are the kind of, those are the kind of thing that we, you know, the baseline, Bernie was imitating Larry Graham on a move. Really? First of all, you had heard, you had heard no moves, do nothing but make sound effects. You're going to make sound effects,

but you didn't know about to actually play the bass line, play like a bass. Bernie had so much interpretation of the many moves and the pro solo. He could imitate anything. He could joy with something, and they'd program it and write it out, and he'd be turning off while Bernie's playing.

And he could play like a bass player, like on Flashlight. And we made Bernie the lead instrument, the bass is the lead instrument. on Flashlight and the handcuffs is the backup. And Flashlight is just like you, Bernie, and who's playing guitar on it? Bootsing his brother. Boots in his brother. Boots and Catfish. Yeah.

He told me that he's playing drums on Flashlight. Is that true? Yeah. He's playing drums on Flashlight. Wow. Wow. He played drums on quite a few. You know, and our bass player, Boogie played drums on quite a few of his balance.

You know, the slow songs. Okay. Yeah. And Gary Cooper, Gary Cooper, he played. Love him. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Well, boy. You brought up Glingueins earlier, and there's so many singers in the P-Funk, a sphere, that we can name. But dare I ask you, of all of the singers represented in that army. And that means Gary, down the fleet. Lee-Bay-Win to Junie. John, yeah. Even to Ray Davis.

For your money, Yep. Who is your, who's your Michael Jordan? Who is your, who is the singer? And this is everyone. Singer, wow. That singer, it would be Gary and Junie because of the creativity,

not only the, you know, the singing voice, They could come up with parts and and Junie could come up with lyrics, parts, and sing it. So, I mean, but then there's a lot of me, you can't take away from Len Mabry. One Mabry, yeah, yeah. I mean, she's like excellent when the guy. And Gary Cooper, you put Gary, you get Gary Peanut,

you get Gary Peanut and Gary, them three, together, you can do anything. We never got a chance to see all what Glenn was going to do. He did everything in about two years that he did with us. Were you involved in that Quasar album that he did? No. That's when they, that's, he had three months to live when he got with us.

He was with us three years. And then he left and they did the Quasar album. You know, and then they think they did Mutiny album. I didn't have anything to do. either one of those. And he died at 24. Like, to me, still, it's like,

when I hear, when I hear Glenn Goins' voice, I'm always saying, like 40s somebody daddy. Yeah. He sounds like somebody. No,

that's what I'm saying. He had that Rance Allen thing on him, and he had complete control over any tone that come out of his mouth. Wow. You know. Back to, to Mubon.

Gary, Gary, in my opinion, is your best animated voice-sounding character. How are you able because, you know, most music fans don't even know that Gary

is the voice of the group Slifox. Let's go all the way. Right. Of which, you know, that was a big hit in 1985, and he's singing in his natural voice. But how are you able to convince your frontline army

to adapt to these new voices? And the same for Bootsie Calleons as well. Like, how are you able to tell them, like, adapt your voice to more of an animated tone? Because to me, like, Maibone has one of the greatest animated voices ever. When we was on a role, and when you got momentum going for you, When you're on the road and you're in that zone, they call it. And we had the character of Sir Nose. We had the character of Mr. Wiggles.

Mr. Wiggles, the Casper, the friendly ghost. You know, we was into making cartoon, Rhinestone, rock star, monster of a daub, baby, Baba. We was into making toy music, you know. So it was easy for Bone to go into it. Mr. Bucci, are you, what? Why are you asking like stars? We had a thing in that zone. We was writing cartoons then.

That's what Motor Booty Affair is the motion picture underwater. Yes. You know? He did. Yeah. The rhythm it takes to, you know what I'm saying? Oh, that's from, you know, that's when your boy, Jocko. Yeah.

Jocco, yeah. Yeah. Yes. You know, I bit off of that. And when I saw DJs was getting ready to be the thing. And that's when we did Mother's Shoe. connection. I was imitating Frank and Crocker and Jock

and all of them. Because I could tell DJ was beginning to be the thing because they was cutting them off on the radio. They started to play five songs and no commercial. And you start missing that DJ talking dedicated song to your girl

and da-da-da-da-all-that. DJ started getting political, especially in Philly, Georgia Woods. That was my boy. You know, so we've intentionally played our own record on our record, W-E-F-U-N-K, we funk. Chocolate-coated freaky and having it for me.

That was all the shit that you heard on your favorite DJ. You wasn't hearing it on the radio no more. So let me hear it for me. We love to, funk you. All of that was our version of DJ. And soon as we did that, they started having what you call DJ Pools. You started taking your record to the DJs.

And they were taking your record to the DJs. you, record pool, they would tell you who records to get played. You know, radio was like, that's, and then no sooner than that, then hip hop came along and fuck it. We just be DJ's on record and that's what it's that. Mothership connection, I have to ask, it sound like he got a three on it to me. What does, what does that mean? You know what that means.

I had some dubious. It was cool. Can you imagine do the E.O. All of the other Yeah, it sounded like he got a three-older to me. All that was what we called it

a trendy chemical substance. Whatever was trending at that time, whatever the chemical substance was happening. That's what we were at. You know, it was just that language that people was conveying with, you know, street talk.

And they do it nowadays, too. It just seems harsher because their kids. They're going to make it worse than yours. They're going to outdo your ass no matter how bad you did it, they're going to get you just doing it. I don't even say nothing to them because if you say something to them,

you can make them do it worse. They know they got your attention. You know, but that's what it was, trendy chemical substance. I was there that three on it. Funk would take a 10. There it is.

Is it true that for the, for maggot brain, that you told Eddie Hazel to play like his mom had died? I've always heard that story, but I know. Yeah, that was true. That was true.

And he said, fuck you. But I knew that once I said it, he understood the intense. Because it was a regular three-court blue song. Ain't too much. But if he played it psychedelically like he could do it and with all the echolplexes we had on it, and he was beginning to manipulate the echolplex.

And I was manipulating the echolplex in the studio on top of his. So it was just a vibe He could play all of the blues and soul Like Jimmy was doing All that he wanted And all those echoes on top of each other Well that was some brilliant shit

Especially when you took the other instruments out Take the bass and drums out You ain't got another of the rhythm guitar And the lead You could take up all the space with all those delays And it worked pretty Real good with Eddie because he was so soulful Any sound he made was you felt it

You were born in North Carolina, correct? In Canapolis? Was it Canapolis? Canapolis. Right outside of Charlotte, Canapolis. Oh, yeah. I'm from Greensboro, so I know. I got a whole bunch of family in Greenboro right now.

What? I got a whole bunch of family. I got a whole bunch of family, sisters, nieces, brothers. You might be connected, Fronte. It might be. Man, that's home. How did you get from, go ahead. I was going to say you're born in North Carolina,

but I've been to Plainfield a lot, and that's all they talk about. about is y'all and you. So it's interesting. It's like it's two different towns that got that you the pride of. But I came from North Carolina. I'm probably about 10 years old into Virginia, Chesa City, Virginia.

And about 10, I went to Newark, New Jersey. Okay. And that's where I went to the school at. Newark. I went to, you know, Avon. There was south side same school. Shack went to, to Javaz.

Okay, I went there. But I had a barbershop, 10 miles outside of Newark, which is Plainfield. I never lived there. I just have the barbershop. You travel there every morning on the bus. And you'd ride a Plainfield.

That's so funny. And Plainfield was like suburbia. It was like, you know, for rich folks, you know, middle class people. And then he got a really funky, got a really funky hitting the late 60s and early 70s. You know, there riots and everything. But it was some soulful folk there. You know what? It just hit me.

I worked with Nona Hintricks on a project of a couple of years, a few decades back. She told me that you were her original hairdresser. Is that true? Hair dress. I did. What you saying? I did her and patties. What you mean?

You said, you know, you're not in the hotclone? What are you saying? No, no, no, no, I used to wave here. They used to have, you know, waves close to the head. Oh, you used to make the finger waves, the finger waves. The finger waves. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, and she's living, Philly and Trenton. Yeah, I did both of them's hair. And, you know, we worked together for years, though. I did known as head in Paris, you know, years later, just for, you know, for magazine, you know, PR. But her and Patty, Sarah, they were like neighborhood, they were fucking. They were fucking a long time. The parliament started 56.

I think they might start in like 59. Really? So you, that's great to me. Let me ask you something. Yes. Was your family, Leandro in the hearts? My father was Le Andrews. Yes.

Okay. I thought so. Yeah. Yeah, I go that far back. Yeah, when I read that in the book, man, I was like, wow, this is, my dad would love this. Like, my dad gets mentioned in Divided Soul and George's book. Oh, no, no. Explain to me, you're, like, I know that the.

Parliament started off as a doo-op group, as typical for the day. Could you just explain like that what that environment was like with trying to break into du-op? And really, I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed with Ray Davis. For me, more than Melvin Franklin, more than Barry White, more than anyone with the deep voice, Ray Davis to me is the ultimate bass singer. How did you guys?

like form. Well, we performed like, you know, most kids in grade school. I had two or three other people in the band before them. But by the time we got to that lineup, we went out to Detroit audition, didn't make it, but I ended up writing songs for him. Then I did a song called I Want Testify. And I did that song with Ron Banks from the Dramatics. Wow. Pat Lewis from the Hot Butter and Soul, myself. And the guy named Eddie. from the holidays. That was the backyard, because Parliament

couldn't make it out to Detroit. We got a hit record on that song, and that was the beginning. That record carried us out into the world. I'm going to testify. Like I said, Vanilla Ford, Lenister guitars, amps,

that changed our life. We became funkadelic that night. We was getting tired of with the record companies, with the name, Parliament, couldn't use the name. So we took our backup band, which was Billy Edding,

burning them, made them Funkadeli. We became their backup singers. That's why you see the five of them on the Funkadelic first Funkadelic album. But that's how I did it with the record companies. And when Parliament got his name back, we did a Parliament album called Osmium with Holland Doja Holland. Stay tied up there for years and ended up on Castle

of Blanker with Neil Bogart. Yeah, I was going to say, how did you, How did you meet Neil Borgart and how did you stay out of the disco fray? Because everything that Neil did was theater and disco. How did you stay out of that? Before that, Neil was the king of bubblegum. Neil did, he had Buddha records. Oh, wow.

Okay. He had Buddha records and he had Gladys Knight and the fifth and the stairs steps and Curtis Mayfield and all of that. Neil had that labor first. Then he had hot wax with Holland Doja Holland, which was the honeycomb. So he wanted us to be on his label when they had hot wax, you know, Holland Doge Holland. But they put us on Invictus.

So we missed Neil. A couple of years later, when we got up for Invictus, I looked Neil up and he had a new labor called Casta Blanca. He took us and kissed. and Donna at the same time. Wow. And we all went three different directions. And he was so hot.

They went through the disco thing. I wasn't going. The closest I got to disco was knee deep. That was my rescue dance music from the Blas. You know, I like disco. I like disco, but I didn't want to do the same beat on every song. You know, there was a silver convention. I was a civil convention free.

You know, I love that You like Get Up and Boogie? I love all that. You know, but you can't you can't do every song like that. That was my own thing. They had measuring your heartbeat. And when you start fucking with music,

like that, it's, no, it gets, you have the pack to set that shit in. You know. So is that, okay, because also probably the most notable thing about your concerts, versus you're probably the only act I know that will do a song slower

in concert than you do on the album. Any time I've ever seen Dr. Funkenstein performed in any of those 70s concerts, you guys go half the speed of that. And each song is like 14 minutes, like longer, way longer and way slower. Is there, like, were you?

We got that from, you ever see Philo Cute? Yes. Yes. They used to do songs all day long. For an hour. One song. They start on song and be in the afternoon and be dust, and they'd be still playing another version of that same song,

all kind of. And we used to do that back in the 68, 69. When we first started Funkadel, it was a group. You're like a boom, boom, boom, boom. And we vamp that shit forever. And people were so fucked up that we always fucked up. Everybody enjoyed the groove all, you know, and it took a few years. We got reels of the same song.

Brandy chemical stuff. They're reals of the same song. We got real. We got, they put up another reel and we keep going. And you tape them shits together. It's just one long reel. You know how they say they have 24 tracks. We have 72 tracks.

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I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings. I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration.

It would not be on a calendar of, you know, that. cat just hang in there yeah it would not be right it wouldn't be that there's a lot of luck listen to thanks dad on the iHeart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts ah man now we're doing rapid fire yeah dude it's okay okay i'm gonna do this yeah can you explain how Pedro bell comes into the system and yes oh that's good that's good when i moved to Toronto. He used to, you know, fan, he used to write me letters, you know, the fan, and he would draw on the envelope. And on the envelope, it looked just like the album covers. The whole cartoon, whatever, he would draw, he would draw on an envelope. The postmaster general

thought I was part of some kind of organization, and they was getting upset with me, you know, was I asking me, was that part of something? And that's all you know, but, you know, But then I said, I want this dude to do the album now. He draws that much attention. And it sounded so clever. He was right out of high school. I contacted him and he had him do Cosmic Slop. Yes.

That's what was the first one. From then on, it was like I would have to tell him the story of what I'm talking about. And he would give me his interpretation of whatever that meant to him and his own weird ass language. He could write his ass song. You know, but he did it intentionally. The same way he could draw, draw. He could paint a picture that looked like a photo. Okay, but he was, he was fed up with that.

He didn't like doing that. So he did his own Pedro Bell art and his own Pedro Bell language. And it was funny to him, and I got him when I did an album called Some of My Best Jokes of Friends. Some of My Best Jokes of Friends, yes. I did that. He didn't what you're talking about. You come up what you think I think what I think I'm talking about.

That was the funniest one of all because I didn't give him nothing to go on. He would do the commentary and all the mythology on that. Was that you or him? Me and him say, I'll tell him what I'm talking about, but he would interpret and put it in his language.

Speaking of Cosmic Slop, okay, a question I always wanted to know. The first time that I ever heard cosmic slop was in the most unlikely platform. I first heard cosmic slop on the Cosby show. Yeah.

Of which Robert and Vanessa are doing their homework. Shut up. And I hear Cosmic Slop. And this is, you know, it's so weird because, you know, now... Bill was a punk of care. Wow. I mean, he introduced us to a lot of music.

Let's not get it twisted. No, he definitely was. Come on. He definitely was. Oh, no. He was a fucketeer. He was a fucketeer out there. Yes, he was.

That's one way we could describe it. That's one way. Okay. That was revenge. Okay. So the thing is, yeah. And, you know, I, I let it, I didn't know what it was, but it was during the era in which like VCRs, like at first started infiltrating everyone's household and you record every show in the show.

And so I recorded and watched that episode like 42 times. So my history teacher tells me, yeah, that's von Kedelic Cosmic Slop. And, you know, it really didn't hit me until I started digging in the crates. And then once I heard the lyric output, of course, you know, Cosmic Slops about a sort of a regretful mother that's treated like a Jezebel. Because she has to turn tricks and feed her kids. And I'm like, how did this song wind up on the Cosby show?

Did you have any warning whatsoever that they use that song so prominently on that episode? No, I was surprised when I heard it too. But I knew he, I know he was in Detroit for a while himself would have recognized. So he knew of us to. And then it didn't surprise me. Wow.

Speaking of TV while we're on the TV movie side, House Party. Your cameo on House Party is the DJ. How was that like working with Kid and Play? That was real fun. I still see play out in Tallahassee. He comes here, a fan you. But a Reggie husband, that was his when he first got out of college. He is the biggest fan ever, yes.

Yeah, his mother told me he was like that when he was a kid, that he had posters and stuff. She thought, you know, because that skirt I had on one of those posters, she said in the wig, I had the wig on, she didn't know what was going to happen to him. And that's the same thing, same thing with Humpty. He had that same poster. His mother said she used to carry it around with him. Oh, shot G.

He's on shot G. Shock G, yeah. That's my boy. So seeing all those groups that you influenced, man, like, what was that like for you? Did you feel like inspired by it? Did you feel like they were copying? Like, what was your relationship? You know, I love it.

You know, your ego feel good as hell. You know, but it was always, I always liked it wanted to be like Motown, you know, all the different artists that was around, that was family. That was a hell of a place. We used to just ride by there and watch them all in the front yard. So many stars. And that's the way we felt, you know, with Bootsie, Roger. A lot of people don't know.

We did Roger, more about to the house, you know. You talk about making that record? Like, how? That was Funky Bounce, the song he had called Funky Bounce. We took the little snippet of the first part of that song and cut tape. We copied it, copy it, copy it, cut it with a tape, copy it, copy it, cut it. And then tape it and tape it together. So you sampled it.

We sampled it. They didn't have a sample machine yet. So we just looped. Just looped. Just cut that loop piece until we got like 10 seconds or something like that. And then we looped around a pencil, around the head of a two-track machine, and just let it loop around it. And until we got 10 minutes of it, for 10 minutes,

and then put that on two on the 24 track, and then called Roger Baggan, he hated it. What? Wow. He hated. Oh, he hated it. What? That was the deal. We gave him the deal.

Yeah. That's what we got him, his deal. He wasn't, that we had to use that as the name because that's his younger brother. I told him, make up another. He didn't want him to be Roger. Wow. He said, make up another name, you know, there's some money for you. He was waiting.

His record was going to be on Uncle Jam. Remember? Yeah, Uncle Jam records, right. Yeah, his record was going to be on. on that. So we made ZAP just in the meantime so you can get some money. We put it out in the record, he hit so big. They had to become Zapp and he hated it for a long drive. That's a hell of a throwaway.

What was he? What was he? Wow. What was he? He was circle back to you after that. They ended up leaving. They were so big. They were so big.

And then they put out, I did grapevine. You did that? The grapevine, more bound, um, And there's one more, Only have eyes for you. Right, yeah. Let's cover that. Right.

I just started them to doing it. I didn't finish it with them, but, and there's one of Wilson picking up, I got with you. Midnight hour. Midnight hour. Midnight hours. Midnight hours. And I thought those songs you could always do

and get on the radio back at that time. And he ended up doing them all, and they worked pretty good for him. Did you work on? the Roger's solo album as well or just the first app. That was the album that was supposed to have been on Uncle Jam.

That was Uncle Jam's album. So do it, Roger, do it. All that stuff is... All that stuff was done for Uncle Jam. That's it. Wait, hold up. As you can see, we are just scratching the surface when it comes to the legendary

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