The Questlove Show - QLS Classic: Mike Birbiglia

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Questlove Supreme is a production of IHeart Radio. This classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora. Hey, it's Unpaid Bill. On this week's Quest Love Supreme Classic, we talked to comedian, writer, and filmmaker Mike Fertiglia about his real-life sleepwalking, his movie Don't Think Twice, and the insatiable nature of success.

This is from November 9, 2016. See you on the next go-round. Shut up, Bill. Just start the episode. Suprema, Supraima, Roll call. Suprema, Supreme a roll call.

Suprema, Subrema, sub, sub, subprima roll call. Suprema, sub, sub, sub, sub, sub, sub, sub, sub, sub. I am Questlove. Yeah. I do not quit. Yeah. Today we're going to find out.

Yeah. Why we ruin good shit? Brocah call. Suprema, sub, sub, sub, suprema roll call. Suprema, sub, sub, suprema roll call. I am Fontygo. Yeah. I got electric ladies.

Yeah. They come to my crib. Yeah But had rice and gravy Roca Suprema Roca Supremea Roca

Supremea Subma Roca Call My name is Steve Yeah Sugar Steve Yeah I feel like I'm not wanted

Yeah In this room Roca C Supra So Submira Roll call

Supra Supraima So Suprima Roll call My name is Bill Yeah Still unpaid

Yeah. Got divorced. Yeah. Need to get roll call. Suprema, sub, sub, sub, Suprema roll call. Suprema, Subrema,

Role Call. I am, Boss Bill. Yeah. I like Tater Tots. Yeah. I run this show. Yeah. Don't believe me, just watch.

Roll call. Supremma, Supraima, Subima, Rocall. Supraima, Supraima Role call. My name's Laia.

Yeah. And I am new here. Yeah. Please don't fight me. Yeah. Because I don't know how to do this shit. Roll call. Suprema, S-S-S-S-S-S-R-Role call.

Suprema-S-S-S-Premma roll call. My name is Mike. Yeah. I'm not going for a hike. Yeah. I mean, look at my physique. Yeah. I'm, um, uh...

Roll call. Supima. Suprema, S-S-S-S-S-S-S-Priamma. Ro-C-C-S-S-S-S-S-Premma. Roll call, Suprema, Subma, Suprema, Suprema, Suprema, Roll Call. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another edition of Course Love Supreme, only on Pandora. Yes, I'm Korslov, and we got the team Supreme with us, and today we got a really great show for you. A comedian, writer, actor, and director Mike Barbigley is on the show.

He'll be on in a bit, and we're talking about his new movie Don't Think Twice. which is out next Wednesday on iTunes and on December 6 on Blu-ray. And before all that, we're going to check in with the team Supreme. We are here at our home at Electric Ladies Studios. You hear that, Sugar, Steve? Yes. We're back at Electric Lady, man. We never left.

We never left. I've been hiding under this couch for 20 years. Steve and I first met each other 20 years ago at where we are right now, this location. It's our anniversary. Memories. That's so cute. Yeah. Yeah. So it's good to be here. I just never knew that our return to Electric Ladies Studios would be a radio show.

Yeah, exactly. Okay, so to my left, going clockwise. Sugar Steve, what's up, pal? Feeling good. You feeling good? No. Okay. Stomach hurts. My head is killing me.

Oh, okay. Okay. Unpaid Bill. How are you doing, bro? Good, man. How are you? I'm great. How's life? Fantastic.

Really? Sometimes. You look like shit. Thank you. Coming from you. Very short answers. That's really, really painful. Fantigaloo.

Another day, another dollar, brother. How's it going? Man, I can't complain at all, man. I'm sitting here at Questlow Supreme, an electric lady, and, um, shit, chopping up this paper. You couldn't leave it We are officially chopping on paper What the fuck does that mean

Chopin up paper? It's like No, I know to mean Okay, I got it. Oh, I don't know. For those that are across You might as well just tell everybody. Hey, Fonte, what's chopping a paper? Chopping up paper is a colloquialism

used in the American South among Negroes who are probably making their money in illegal activities such as drug dealing or money laundering. And it is referred to as, you know, I'm gaining this currency at an alarming rate. I'm a mashing legal tender at a rate that is just incredible.

So I'm here about chopping up the paper. It doesn't mean I'm literally putting blades to the paper and breaking it off. There's counterfeit money you could be chopping it up. You could. You could be breaking it up like in the sheet. like Walt White. But it's just very much, you know, I'm chopping up that paper.

Boss Bill. Hello, how we doing? Doing really well. More importantly, how am I doing? You're doing great. You're doing a good job. But this is only the first like five minutes, though, right? No, we've been at this for like about 10 minutes so far.

Oh, okay. Well, let's see. That's what you're here for to keep me in line. We're good. You're doing a great job. And I guess the most notable thing to mention at the top here is that the familiar female voice you've heard on the past few episodes of Quest. Love Supreme.

Yes, Laia, she's officially part of our family now of our show. The ever-expanding cast. The team keeps growing. Yeah, the team grows. I figured that we need a high testosterone. Just say it's a breast in the room. To breast.

Can't we? I'm sorry. Yes. What's brass? Yeah. I've known this lady since she, since we or young. and um

wait since she was a stripper in Atlanta no before that before that no uh you know she's my my comrade from Philadelphia uh

I'm from D.C. No you're from Philly. Okay. Thank you. Um yeah now I'm already regretting this decision.

Welcome like you of St. Clear. Yes. She made a nickname. Question. I'm sorry, I'm not good with compliments. We're going to have to give you a nickname. Well, she used to be Lady Laia

on Philadelphia, right? I was just like, where you see a lady? Where she at? Were you not? What was your striper name? I was Laia. Lady Laia is like 2,000 syllables.

So what was your club name? What was your? Lala. Lala, that was your club name, really? But not like Lala, the other chick, but like Lala, you know, no. This just seemed like it's going to get me in trouble later. No, you worked in the daytime?

I mean. No, what? You don't even make no money in a daytime? time at the strip club? Oh, okay. Because you have to think, like, what kind of person goes to the strip club? This is the goal club, though. I visited.

Oh. Right, right, right. No, I'm saying, man, because you actually were. I fell inside that hole and then realized, oh, shit, I just felt going to. Wait, are we still on the air right now? Yeah, we are still on the air. We've been yanked off the air. Yeah.

I went to college, everybody. Yeah, I was going to say, let's, let's paint a different. A picture of Laia. I've been working with Laia behind the scenes for several weeks now. She's very, very smart, very intelligent. We are blessed to have it. Laia is, no, no, no, no. Let me, probably, you're just saying I'm lying?

Well, yeah, that. She's not pleasant. No, Laia is actually a Philadelphia radio royalty. She's been, you've been on radio in Philadelphia for at least. 11. Since I was 12. 11 years. No, I knew you since you were 12.

No, I just don't want them to know that I'm old. But yeah, that's fine. Listen, I was on the radio for like 15 years. Let's just keep it real. Okay. Okay. Yeah, you've done a great job. That's why you're here.

I just want to mention, y'all said something about Source magazine, not being valid, but it's still valid in 2013 and 14 because I was in the top 30 in radio. So as long as that's still going on. Oh, wow. Magazine is still valid. I just, I wasn't on the radio in 2014, but they still put me in there. So I just want to get them to love. It shows you all much credibility there.

I mean, really. He's going to put you on a list. He ain't got a goddamn show. I'm saying. Pootty don't need no words. Pootie don't need no music. Poodie don't need no radio show. Pudy know what Pudy do.

Oh, man. Yo, why did I just found out recently that Louis C.K. Rope and directed him. Wow. I did not know. That is his crazy. movies that should have want Oscars.

Putty Tang should want a fucking Oscar. Pootie Tang should want an Oscar. And Clifton Powell should get a lifetime achieving award. D.C. Native. Clifton Powell. Dude, he's black excellence. He's like, he's one of those black actors. He was a black father?

He's a black father, but then he'll turn around and like he'll be in fucking Star Wars. Like he worked, he just be working. Star Wars. And he was in, well, he wasn't in Star Wars, but he'll be in like some big budget shit. Like Menace Society. And then he'll be in, he was in Menace Society. But then his greatest role, I think, was Pinky in next Friday. He really, he just really, there was a rich emotional tapestry.

You know, like Star Wars. That just really. Fine. I mean. Fine. Time out. You don't understand. You know, can we, fine, fine.

Can we, now I have to analyze you in. How? Like, the sponge that is your brain and the information that it retains. I said that. Is it amazing? You might need to be the guest next week on your own show. Is that like no weed influence?

Like, seriously. Is that no weed influence? No, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I would just, ever since I was a kid, I just been able to just kind of retain some reading. I mean, I had smoke,

but I'm not a smoker. I mean, if, you know, I'll do it in the gathering. If, like, y'all got one. Hell, yeah, we're going in. It's just a celebration. But no, I don't really smoke no weed like that

because it's just, it just, it kills my productivity. And there was this one episode I had where I was driving back from the Woff House high and the road started crissing. I just told, I told,

I told God, God, I wasn't doing that shit no more. Well, wait, I'm going to ask you something because this is what I learned, having recently just visited Maui, where the speed limit, the average speed limit, 35. Oh, shit. 35. Like, it would be like something where it's like, okay, so where's the Whole Foods at? They'll be like, oh, it's eight miles away.

You'll get there in like, 40 minutes. Wow. Yeah, and you got to drive 35. You got to drive 35. And the logic was that it stops. drunk driving incidents. But the thing is I'm like

If you're if you're inebriated Good one If you're inebriated Will you see that 35 Spadominate? Like will you see that?

I don't know But if you're driving slow Like Won't that put your life at risk more? I don't know. I don't know The one time I did it It was

And that was it Like that shit scared the shit out of me, dude And that was another thing Like drugs actually really like scared me So that one experience It was me and a girl I was seen at the time And we was smoking Just smoking like just smoking

Just for fucking smoking And we had a damn And we was doing it That was like seven smokings Man we was just smoking And she was actually I mean to bring it all home To Electric Lady

This was after one of your Fame artists That you had produced had finished her sophomore album so we were kind of celebrating that she was had finished up that album.

Was she related to that artist? Wasn't related. Oh God, no, it wasn't her. I know you're talking about. Wasn't related. But wasn't related. No disrespect to that person, but I mean,

but I wasn't her. But now, so we were hanging and so she had it on the pipe and, you know, man, I just, I mean, where I'm from pipes mean crack.

So, smoking off a pipe just felt real crackish to me. you know what I'm saying but I was like I mean whatever we're doing it so I was smoking it off the pipe and it's real pure so I was like damn we're hungry's hell we need to go to the goddamn waffle house and so I drove to the Waffle House and we went to the Waffle House on a this was a Saturday night and I remember sitting there and the high just came over me I'm waiting on my food and you know my thing with food like I remember my dude who was took out joint he had a jail tat named Tap Daddy and when I saw the gym jail tat. I knew. No, for real. I'm not making this shit up, dude.

He had a jail and tapped at it. And so I knew then, you know, that was when I found my hypothesis that I knew the food was going to be great because felons cooked the best food, right? I mean, like, if it ain't at least three. Shout out the prodigies, prison recipes. Somebody write that down. Shout out the prodigies prison recipes, boy, prodigy from my dude. Yeah.

Nah, if you ain't got at least two felons in your, if you ain't got at least two felons in your restaurant, the food is going to be shitty. And if you don't have it, like, let me have it. at least one person in your black family that has a black disease that's cooking. Like if your grandma ain't got the speed bag under her arm, I don't want her dinner. I don't want her cooking Thanksgiving dinner.

It's not gonna be good. No, it's real. No, it's real. You need at least one person with a non-communicable black disease such as the gout, the sugar. Because the speed bag is not a disease. It's just like what happens to women when they, it's called wings, you know.

Well, nah, it's, I mean, it's wings and yeah, chicken wings. You eat you got damn many of them. That's what the fucking is. So, no. Speed bag is way better than chicken wig. Come on. You need the speed bag. But anyway.

So anyway, so it's felons cooking my chicken and eggs. I know this shit's going to be amazing. So I'm sitting here and the high is just keeping coming down on me, right? So it's Saturday night and the police is out there. And the girl on me with by the time, she's so goddamn high. She doesn't fell asleep. She's nodding off like with the goddamn dope fiendling looking like, bubbles from the wire and shit.

So I'm just like, yo, this is bad. So I tell her to just go get in the car. I said, just go get in the car and just go to sleep. So the police is out there because they, because, you know, it's like the fucking club. So, man, I finally get the food and I'm walking out and the police is looking at me. I'm just like, dude,

I'm looking at a D-E-Yed in the fucking face, right? And I had to put the key in my car. This was before, this was like when I was a really broke nigger and like I didn't have the remote control open key. I had to I had the old school, like, you got to get the key in the joint, the Latin turn. Man, that was the most concentrated shit I had to do in my life. And I got it.

And, you know, I remember driving home. And, man, the road started goddamn zigzagging, man. And I just said to myself, I was like, God, if you let me get home, I would never get this high again. And I made it home and I busted down them chicken and eggs. And I never bought that much. I never got that high again. That was it, man. So, um.

Wow. That was it. I think I got contact. I got contact for mastery. Monti. Oh, man, our coffee tail looks. We need this shit. Damn.

You should just move to walking distance from the Wafelouse, then you can get high. Hey, that's a possibility. Steve's done some research. Thank you, Steve. Thank you. Every time I go there, I try to figure out, uh, because I know there's, they claim that there's a million plus, uh, combinations of the hash browns.

Yeah, you can get them scattered, smothered, covered chunk, cap. You can get them with chili. I'm done. I'm done. Yeah, I'm saying. I mean, I know to mean you pretty well. No, but there's a scientific, there's a scientific number combination that says that it's one million plus different combinations.

Yeah, I get everything on mine. Oh, you were? What did you get on yours? What you on your cheese and everything too I go full throttle Oh damn But I only do like a quarter of it Okay

You know I'm one of those Like I'm in the The God the I'm about to make this reference The Ron Perlman face in my life Oh shit He orders everything

And this does a little bit of each thing And then leaves Which it's That's probably the worst thing I can say Like because there's this unspoken rule That we can't waste food Mm-hmm. And that, but then, but see, Waffle House, they didn't upgrade it a formula, bro.

So now... Wait, wait, wait, what? They didn't upgrade it the formula. They messed with it? No, they, brother. So now, what, they used to just have the regular waffles, just the regular waffles. I got the pecan joint. Oh, but now they got the pecan, but now they got the new joint they do.

They'll do you a strawberry waffle. They put a little strawberry, like, little something, some cancer-causing shit they put in there. And they just cook it up, and it tastes fucking amazing. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Wow. We really do need to go to Waffle House. Yeah.

That would be dope. After that cancer comment, we really need to go to fucking Waffle House. Let's go. Yeah, that was that. Did you see that story about the girls that got the Waff House? I don't think they got it shut down. They were fired. The girls that was doing hair in the Waf House?

Wait, what? This is true. You get your hair did? Well, they were doing it. It was like somewhere in Atlanta, I want to say. A side gig? Shocker. They were doing.

Shocking. Totally shot. They were doing hair, washing hair in the Waffle House. There are so many World Star videos about Waffle House fights. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot go down because it's 24 hours. It's 24 hours, but I got to imagine they only make, I'm sure, like,

their profit margins are the highest from the hours of like 12 midnight to like three, four in the morning. Like eating Waffle House, much like you wonder about the guy that goes to a strip club during the day. Who does the analytics of this? No, I'm just thinking. Of course. I'm just thinking, dude, because, like, if you go eating Waffle House during the day, like, you're a goddamn savage.

Wait, wait, whoa, whoa, wait. Yeah, IHOP is more for the day. Wait, timeout. I hop is for the day. Oh, timeout. Really? I mean, because for us, like, when we was coming up, Waffhaus was club.

It was after the club food. It was after the club. It's late night. You go and that's what it is. Now, I will say during the morning, like, if morning, I'm with you. We would hit it.

sometimes. Well, when I land, when I land... When I land... Shonis. Before I go to the hotel, I go to Waffle House. Like, I eat daytime Waffle House.

You do. But you go to the strip love and a daytime too, though, so... No, I don't. Oh, shit. Okay, so let's dial back via the food talk a bit here, guys,

and get a little serious. At least in line with our guest today. Who is a comedian, I feel um it's probably one of the more probably one of the most unique

storytellers uh in comedy because this his level of comedy isn't just like why did the chicken cross the road like it's not just like set up punchline set up punchline like he tells these uh stories of his life and they're the most hilarious thing ever except they're all like

real they're the most painful realist, most insecure, most pie in the face, you know, self-deprecating stories I've ever heard, but the way he delivers it makes it so relatable, makes him so likable.

And he's made two movies that I really feel that are important, I guess, for artists alike in and people that aren't into art. They speak to all. all areas of life. I'm speaking of Sleep Walk with me

and I'm speaking of his newest film Don't Think Twice and our guest is Mike Berbiglia and he's coming up in the next segment. A win is a win.

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Everyone, I'm Ego Wodom. My next guest, you know from Step Brothers Anchorman, Saturday Night Live, and the Big Money Players Network. It's Will Ferrell. Woo, woo, woo, woo. My dad gave me the best advice. I went and had lunch with them one day, and I was like, and dad, I think I want to really give this a shot. I don't know what that means, but I just know the groundlings.

I'm working my way up through, and I know it's a place that come look for up and coming talent. He said, if it was based solely on talent, I wouldn't worry about you, which is really sweet. Yeah. He goes, but there's so much luck involved. And he's like, just give it a shot. He goes, but if you ever reach a point where you're banging your head against the wall and it doesn't feel fun anymore, it's okay to quit. If you saw it written down, it would not be an inspiration. It would not be on a calendar of, you know, the cat.

Just hang in there. Yeah, it would not be. Right, it wouldn't be that. There's a lot of luck. Listen to Thanks, Dad, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This week on the Sports Slice podcast, it's all about the NFL draft. And we've got a special guest, the director of the NFL's East West Shrine Bowl, Eric Galko joins the SportsSliced podcast to break down what really matters when evaluating

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Ladies and gentlemen, please give it up for Mike Berbiglia. Yes, uh. Thanks, man. Thank you guys. Welcome to Questlove Supreme. Thanks, man. How's it going? I'm good.

I'm good. I'm psyched that you like the movie, and I was just, I was talking to Bill beforehand because he, I ran into him a few months ago, and I was telling him about the movie. Unpaid Bill. That's me. All right. Not to be confused with. Was Bill.

Okay. And I ran into you at, I'm forgetting the name of the place. Bar Central? Yeah. And he was in a group for many years. Unpaid Bill. You were in a group? I was in a group.

I guess I still am in a group called Freestyle Love Supreme. Sounds a lot like Questlove. Are you serious? Surprises abound. So I play in it. I played and still play, I guess, in a hip-hop improv comedy group. where we get suggestions from the audience make up hip-hop tunes. And the people who are in the group are the people that went on sort of to create Hamilton, the musical.

They are Lynn Miranda and Chris Jackson and Duffie Diggs and all the guys who are in that are in the same group. And Mike reminded me that we were at the same Aspen Comedy Festival together once many years ago. In 2003. Was that a battle of the... No, I was just doing stand-up and these guys were doing freestyle. Yeah. We didn't know each other. But then a few months ago, I ran into these guys because I did something.

with Lynn Miranda a couple years ago. And I was like, hey, I didn't know Bill. I was like, hey, Lynn, I think you'll like this movie I made. It's probably a little bit like your life. Little did I know that it was and Bill was part of it. Yeah. So I watched the movie today, Don't Think Twice. An incredible film and was out to myself, wow, that's a whole lot like my life.

Straight up. Straight up. And what did, Amir, you and I were texting last night. Who do you relate to most in the movie? I mean, in the beginning, I thought I was Jack. But then I thought, then I thought maybe I was your character. Miles. Yeah, because what I don't want to be is I don't want to be the character

that doesn't realize that the party's over and the lights are out. Can we kind of give them an overview? Yeah, yeah. So the gist of it is like it's a movie about a, a bunch of best friends in like an improv comedy group and they've been together for years and then one of them gets a chance to be on like a Saturday Night Live type of show and the rest of them don't and it's about that's why we're talking about in relation to breakups because it's what happens when not everybody makes it in the same way like Michael like Michael

Jackson for example wait side note because I'm gonna I'm gonna interrupt with small meaningless questions sure all right similar to Nike's font Yeah. Does Broadway video own that weekend live font? No, they don't own that font. That font. How did you guys master that font? Because that was one of the most impressive.

That font, we went through fonts and we're like, yeah, that's similar to Serent Live, but it's not the same. Okay. It's funny you ask that question because I was wondering the same thing while I was watching the movie. Well, you know, you were? I was like, yo, y'all nailed this perfectly. And who was? I was over at Seth Myers one day, like when I was in prep for the movie and we're doing all the production design stuff.

We're trying to make it look like Cairant Live. And I was walking into the hallways. He, you know, because Seth Myers is literally down the hall from S&L. I was walking in just like taking photos with my phone and the security guard. I was like, hey, get out. You can't take photos. And I was like, I got what I needed. And who was your fake Dom Pardo?

That was me. I did the book. You were the fake Domparto? Yeah, yeah. But like, but what's funny about it is, And that's why I don't mind talking about. If at Serent Life sued us, it would be literally the best thing

that could have ever happened to the movie. It's like when Al Franken wrote that book about Fox News, the lying liars, lies in the lying liars that tell them. And then Fox News sued him. And before that, it wasn't on the bestseller list. And then because of that, it ended up on the best seller list. So anyway, I'm hoping it's a hit.

So, yeah, I guess for those that have yet to see it, I really feel like this could be the, the, my big fat Greek wedding, tortoise in the hair, uh, success story, little train that could movie. I hope so. Because this is everyone's story. Um, and for me, the bottom line, I'm, I'm obsessed with why people clearly, uh, choose to ruin a good thing.

Why do they self-sabotize? I can name about, and I'm probably one of them, I can name at least 30 people in my life that kind of have, if you're familiar with SNL trivia, the final jeopardy where Trebek and Sean Connery are kind of going at each other. And, you know, Final Jeopardy is like, the answer is two.

All you have to say is the answer. The answer is too. And then the next thing you know. That's the best analogy. Right. And then they'll say like, ah, Michigan. That's the answer.

Yeah, yeah. For me, the moment where I realized that this wasn't the average film was when Gillian's character clearly didn't go, you know, to the audition to become a star, which he clearly could have been one. Yeah. And I mean, how. how did you even have the insight to go into that psychological level where to know that happens? I feel like I know a lot of people who've done that over the years who have like who you're like,

you know how there's always the people you're like, yeah, Eddie Murphy's good, but the real guy. It was always like the real guy was this other dude. Charlie Bonnet. Yeah. Oh, yeah, for every Jordan on the court, there's like seven other dudes and one that could have. Yeah, that was the thing. It was like the joke was how did Eddie Murphy end up on Saturday Night Live? And it's because Charlie Burnett couldn't read.

Really? Yeah. Oh, no, yeah. No, he's saying the actual guy. I never named the guy. He was a street performer. Yeah, he was a street performer in D.C. And he's the guy who pretty much kind of who Chappelle used to watch.

And he's in D.C. cab. I don't know if you've seen. I've seen D.C. He's in, he was like, he's one of the guy's D.C. But like, I mean, drugs, everything. But he was a street performer. He died in, like, late 80s. I want to say.

But he was like the man. He was the dude, but he couldn't read. Wow. So he just sabotaged it. Yeah. That's crazy. I mean, there's a million guys at the seller like that. You guys, you see all the time.

Literally the funny student, you're like, how come that person is not the most famous comic? This is what I learned about at least of my five years of kind of being a New Yorker and scope in the comedy scene, which I do obsessively. more than musicians and more than chefs like comedians are a strange strange animal I'm now realizing that humor is used as a means to deflect

what the real problem is going inside and I didn't realize that until I started hanging out at the cellar regularly and this is the time period where like I started working for Schumer she kind of showed me the ropes and the thing was is it was at the very beginning of her slow rise yeah by that point she was just doing you know her comedy central special specials and the show wasn't even thought about then once the show started to develop and then you know I would

ask her like obsessively like okay so do you feel a pressure now do you feel like you have to bring everyone with you do you feel as though like you know yeah and she kind of has to I'm amazed. It's ridiculous how many people she puts on her show. We're in the comedy scene. She's like a more organized Alan Iverson. Oh, wow. How is Amy Schumer like a more organized Alan Iverson?

Because, okay, as a Philadelphia and as a season ticket holder to the Sixers, you know, especially doing the period of Alan Iverson, Yeah. I've never seen someone like literally carry the weight of his family behind his back. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He would have cousins in the third tier, extended friends in the second tier. Wow. Family members in the first tier, like, and that's when I learned like, oh, no.

I never want to be the person that has to, like, you can't take them all with you. Yeah. And so you either are going to have the crew of the posse that you have to take care of or you roll by yourself. Now, I personally chose to roll by myself to the chagrin of a lot of people in my life. Yeah. So it's, it's, you know, damned if you do, damn it if you don't. But, you know, I can't figure out how, like, at the comedy cell, at least, can you explain what the, what that environment is like there? When I started at the seller, it was in like 2002, and it actually was, I think, much even tougher than.

Like, it was like Colin Quinn. It was around the time tough crowd with Colin Quinn was on Comedy Central. So it was like Colin Quinn and Nick DePaolo, Greg Geraldo and Patrice, who was like, you know, Patrice. Yes. Patrice O'Neill is, you know, one of the greats. And like, just, I mean, those guys were tough on each other. like Patrice could make you want to crawl under a Ross. No, he used to go how he addressed you or just how he would kill.

He'd just go, big head, Leah! You got the biggest head! Literally he would do that for a half hour. He was a mean guy, but yeah, no, so there's a lot of like survival and people going at each other. And I was, I mean, I never thrived in that. environment. I mean, I still play there. I love the seller, but like I never, you know, I never got into that culture. So I'm seeing, I'm noticing in at least the New York comedy world, there's three avenues you can choose. Kind of above 23rd Street, like sort of like to midtown Manhattan.

I don't know if like what you would call that area, but that's where like more mainstream comedy is and I don't know if people necessarily aspire to be there I would think that those that kind of thrive at that particular strip could also play Vegas and kind of retire there

Caroline's Denver New York I don't know what you would call like a David Brenner type or that sort of thing but then over in Brooklyn I'm discovering Littlefield Union Hall Alternative Call House yeah kind of the snobby millennials and then there's

That's what I like, but it's, I like performing there, but it's just like performing for your friends. So you don't- Doing stand-off, there's no. There's no challenge to it at all. It's like people, like-minded people. That's why, like, the cellar's great, because it's like a lot of tourists. It's people from all over the place. It's just like, it's actually hard to kill at the cellar.

Really? It's pretty hard. Unless you're really, I mean, like, if you're Schumer or you're Aziz, like, you're famous and people are psyched that you're there. There. People... So you think people come there to sort of stargaze and... I think that's a lot of that. Just hoping for that night that Louis X's up. Yeah, or Rock is there.

Louis there, yeah. Does that, also, does that make for a bad set for you? Like, has someone ever just butted in line? Like, oh, Eddie Murphy wants to do this? And then, like, you have to go in afterwards or... I remember I was on stage once for two minutes and I got the light. And I'm like, what the fuck? I look over and it's Robin Williams.

Oh, wow. Yeah, when Patch Adams only get on, that shit is going to get on. We got Mrs. Dotfire coming up. You got to just cut that shit short. I was so mad, though. I was going to, you know, it was 25 or whatever. I had an attitude. I thought I was better than I was.

I was like, fuck Robin Williams. Who's that? Walked off. One of the things with your movie, man, another movie that I kind of saw a parallel to. I don't know if you saw it, Inside Lewin Davis. Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely. It very much reminded me of that, just in the sense of you have a person where you just realize, what do you do with the realization that it's just not going to happen?

And you just have those characters that's just like, look, dude, I know you thought you were that guy, but you're not that fucking guy. Have you ever felt like that? I mean, I think you're a very funny guy. And why did you make yourself that character? Yeah, right. Yeah, for real. No, for real. Because in my head, I thought you were going to be the chosen one.

I thought, no, and I, my buddy, you know, Yormitakone. Yeah, he's a buddy who wrote for SNL for a lot of years and he gave notes on the script and he's a friend of mine. He was like, you got to play Jack. And I was like, you got to play Keegan's character. And I was like, I don't know, I'm not talented enough to play Keegan's character. You don't understand. Like, you need somebody who is so good that they're undeniable. And on the screen, you're like, when you're watching, you're like, oh, it's.

It's got to be him because that's the guy who would get it. Because Keegan would have gotten it had he not gone to Mad TV. You got asked to do Mad TV before SNO. Wow. So then, which is good for his life because then that's where he met Jordan Peel and they made one of the greatest sketch comedy shows of all time, I think. We're talking about Keegan Michael Key. Yeah, Keegan Michael Key.

But yeah, so that's why I played Miles, which is the bitter guy, which is, I don't, I'm not like Miles, but I also, I'm pretty good at wearing. bitterness. You're petty? I just, I don't know if I'm pet. I don't know if I'm petty, but like when I do it,

people believe it. So we're petty. All right. This is the petty hour on Questlove Supreme on Pandora. Petit for the world. Yeah. We're here with Mike Barbiglia.

Is pettiness a positive character trait? I don't think so, man. I know. I realize this wrong, but I only, it can be fun. I wear proud. I wear proud like, like,

like a scarlet letter that I'm happy about. But you're such a son of a bitch if you're petty because there's so many people who are jealous of you and so straight up. It is. Are you kidding me? I want to be like West Love and I go wrong. Everybody. Everybody.

But I think it's relative. The grass is greener on the other side. Yeah, I mean because and that was the thing I'm like watching the movie. I didn't want to say I mean I think we could pretty much tell people what happened. I mean we won't I wouldn't do it but it's still I think we wouldn't be spoiling anything

because the way the story is told. I mean, to me, the magic was in the way you told the story, not necessarily in just the details themselves. But the thing is, if we're too self-aware of what character we are, like it's sex in the city, then I feel like we're all miles then. But, man, it's been different parts. I feel like I've been that guy.

I've been every person at different points in my career. I've been every character in that movie. Yeah, that's how I feel. You're so lucky. I can't wait to be, Jack. Like, I was watching that movie. Like, I know everybody's struggle, but Jack.

My Jack moments may have not been weekend live moments, but they have. But they've been moments where you definitely won more so than I'm buffering. Right, right, right. Yeah. Right, yeah. Well, can I get personal with your situation today? We can go win. There's no cut card over here, baby.

Let's go. All right. Well, I'm just saying that who, whose character did you relate to? I could relate to all of them. When you watched the film, did you see your own group in this situation? Absolutely. Okay. There were definitely moments and not necessarily in the group between me, poo, and ninth, you know, for, you know, just to give them back story.

I was in a group called Little Brother. A very influential group that kind of, you know, a lot of today's mega, you know, mega winners in the hip-hop game always referred to as, like, one of their favorite groups. definitely one of my favorite groups like yeah that's why he's here because we love the shit our little brother when he came out and so thank you man and so uh the group was me uh I was an emcee my partner

Big Pooh and I produced a Ninth Wonder who um you know went on to produce like major artist Jay Z Beyonce I mean just you know do it some really big records and so for me when me and Poo first started we had the conversation that listen if you study hip hop

you know, the producer always goes on to do more. And you want that to happen. You know what I'm saying? You know, your man is talented. You want him to go on and go and do and go forth. So between me and him, it was cool. When 9th got the Jay-Z look, we came up here to baseline, met Jay-Z. I mean, that was surreal.

You know what I'm saying? Because I remember being in the dorm with that dude. Wait, you came up to baseline? Yeah, yeah. Because we mixed the mission show on baseline. Wow. We met, and we, like, that one day we met Jay. He was just there.

and he played us threats from the black album. And so, yeah, man. So for me to see that journey of me and ninth being in the dorm together and him looking at like, you know, the source and us, him looking at, you know, executive bruce by DJ premiere and him saying like, yo, man, one day I'm going to have that executive producer ninth wonder, like, that's going to be me. To see him go from that to, you know, Jay-Z, that was amazing to me.

And I wasn't, I couldn't have been happier for him. where the disconnect was was in a lot of people in our camp that really felt like we left them behind you know what I'm saying and felt that okay well the knife if you did it with Jay why didn't you do it for me and this person this person this person this person this person and it's kind of like what you were saying you know you can't save everybody and so for me my moment where I kind of felt that Jack moment was then when minstrel show when we got you know four and a half mics in the source at the time the source was still kind of right now four and a half mics is a four and a half mic yeah yeah you know you got four and a half mics and so which was the perfect five was what you could get

right it was a really reputable rating so that was my i guess my jack moment where i had my uh the girl that left sam sam sam sam sam sam sam sam sam she's the one that didn't go to audition right she's the gillian gillian okay where i had my gillian moment and not necessarily a self sabotage moment, but just where, you know, the scene where she was like, yo, I'm good in the well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was kind of when Drake happened

because that was when everybody was like, yo, Tay, Drake is the dude that you influenced. He big, Drake was big me up. Oh, Fonte's my favorite rapper and all this or shit. And it was just like, people were like, yo, man, you could come and you could do him and you need to come for Drake. He stole your

styling this. And I was just like, dude, listen. Oh, they wanted you to come for him? Oh, my God. Are you serious? Dude. Oh, I thought, see, ah, I know battling, no, I know battling is a thing in hip hop, but I'm always like, why can't be petty? That would be fucking petty. I thought, like, it was a thing of like, work with Drake. Well, yeah, it was, it was work with Drake. It started like work with Drake, but then there's always that small cadre of people that like, nah, you need to come and we want you to, you know, we want you to do it because you could be the man.

And so my thing was just like, look, man, kind of like with that character. Yeah. I'm good where I am. If I'm, my whole theory is like, look, if you're. gonna pull a coup and try to throw over the government, right? Okay, if you're gonna throw that dude out, then the government that you put in place needs to be as good or better than the government you outdid.

Else the people gonna come for your fucking head next, you know what I'm saying? Right. So my thing is like, look, dude, I'm not gonna, quote, unquote, come for, uh, you know, Drake or whoever because I'm not gonna serve his audience the way that he is. I'm not about to hop on 1511 goddamn remixes with the hot drug dealer of the moment and fucking do this and do the auto-tribes. And I'm not knocking that, but I ain't fin to do that shit, man.

At 36 years old, nigga, you serious? I really had no clue. I just always think I'm like, maybe you do a record. Like, Kanye did a record with y'all. Yeah, yeah, we did a record like way back, yeah. I mean, and we may do one in the future, I don't know. You already did a record with Drake. We did, back in the day.

We did a record with him like that would be back in the, I guess it would be for your movie. It would be the equivalent of we did improv. Right, the sleep right. But then once the shit really popped, we did. didn't, you know, do nothing. Oh, okay. Post oranges the new black berbigliah. Big Pimp and Burbiglia didn't.

He was, new phone, who this? Wait a minute. New phone, who did? New phone, who is? Oh, oh, oh, what's good, man? My fault. So now, that was my moment, man. It really hit a core with me.

So for me, I'm just in a place where as many, I really related to that character, Gileon, because I think she, and I wanted to ask you by that, man, Because to me, I didn't see it as sabotage by her not going. What? I talked, I would, again, I looked at it as a person knowing their own limitations and just knowing like, you know what, I know I could do this, but if I do this, I'm going to

fuck it up. So let me just not, like, I don't have it in me to do this. That was, that was my interpretation of it. Or she just didn't want it. She didn't want it. She just didn't want it. She felt like it was a sellout moment. She stepped out like she was like compromising something.

I'm good on this Lily Pan. I'm good. I'm good on this lily pad. I'm really straight. I know you don't like that. No, I'm saying it's selling out real. Well, I don't think selling out is real now. I don't think it exists.

Oh, if y'all can just see. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, because right now we're on radio so no one can see. I've never collectively seen, like, all these teeth look at me like, scratching their head. Is selling out real? I think it is. Yeah, I think it is.

I think it is, but I don't think it I mean, back in the 80s and the 90s when no sell out was this whole big thing Yeah, when that whole thing was around It was, it was a different kind of situation Because I don't even know why I'm talking Because I don't know where I'm going with this No, the opportunities weren't there for

It's like LL, like LL he would say like, you know, back in the day We would say yo fuck doing the movies and fuck knowing this Because we never thought it was possible to us But then crush grew happened. Exactly. and then he on in the house. So, you know what I mean? Like, it's...

Which wasn't selling out. That wasn't selling out. Look, no, I don't think that was selling out either. Let's take a cat like Miles Davis. Who has constantly made a career out of building a house and burning it down. Okay. I mean, he's totally defined what jazz music is

at least four or five times, which is impossible. Like, some people are lucky to do. changed music once, let alone five times. But then there was a point where when I was reading his book and just studying like a lot of his late 60s, mid-70s performances where he, you know, turned his back to the audience and, you know, he had this sort of wishy-washy

kind of middle-finger attitude towards his audience. And initially, of course, growing up, I thought, oh, man, that's cool. Like, you know, like, you know, he stands for something. He stands for principles. But there's a period where I just started reading so many psychology books and whatever. And then I realized like, you're scared of rejection. So it's like I'm going to diss me before you can disband.

Yeah, I'm going to reject you first before you reject me. It's like eight miles of fucking bunny rabbit shit. Yeah. And I don't, I don't, I think that that the. idea of I'm not saying that integrity is not real but if we were really

artist artist with the E at the end or you know slash bar if we were all we all be performing free on the streets like all of us in this room are business people whether we emit it or not absolutely

you got to eat to perform so you got to eat to be able to get the energy to perform right so I think that I don't know I just, I don't believe in selling out. I'm not using that as an excuse like, okay, well, whoever has the next big check. Right, right, right.

I'm there for it. Like, I, okay. I guess I can say this. No, no, no. I turned down the biggest check of my life, like two weeks ago because I didn't believe in what I was being paid to. Well,

I guess that's the, I guess you got to understand the difference, right? It's like there's something selling out and cashing in. You know what I mean? It's like I'm not selling out. I'm cashing in. So it's like to me, cashing in is like,

look, if I'm Questlove or if I'm unpaid bill, if I got, if y'all motherfuckers is willing to give me a check to do what it is I already do that I love doing. That's a great way of putting out of you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah,

it's like I'm getting paid for what the fuck I do. Yeah. But if you ask me to change up the way I do. Exactly. Like for instance, for example, like Premier, Like me and, you know, we were talking.

DJ Premier, legendary DJ went half a gangst, all that. He had an opportunity. He was telling me he had an opportunity to do the Grammys with Janet. This is back in the 90s. Yeah, together again. Yeah, she had, he had the chance

to perform on it with her. But they wanted him to act like he was DJing. It wasn't live. They wanted him to pull a fat boy slam. Yeah, exactly. They wanted him to be fucking lip DJing and shit. So she wanted the credibility factor.

Yeah, she wanted him. wanted credibility, but he was like, but she wanted, you know, I mean, it's pop. So everything is synchronized to the minute. And he was trying to tell her like, look, I can do it live. This is what I do. I'm not going to fuck up. And she was just like, look, I can't leave the chance. So he was

walked away from the gig. So to me, like, I wouldn't have done that. I would have did it. Because it's like, because. You would have pan of mine the drums? Did you do that? I do it now. Oh. Okay. I've done soul train. I've done. What won't you do? But I think, but I think with you, man,

to, to that point. Have Lai'eal on next week's show. But I think with you, man, you're like 20, 30 years in the game, so your credit is solidified. See, but that's overthinking the situation. And that's the number one thing that self-sabotors do. They overthinking. If you knew the amount of hours, I've wound up in the hospital myself trying to take care of other saboteurs. No, I'm no, not bullshitting you.

The amount of talking them off the ledge. I say, my number one quote for, there was some sort of like tally of all a mere quotes for the year. I'm certain that, dude, you're overthinking it. I have to say that so many times to people just to get them down to the first floor again. Because once they get inside their head, it's no escape. Because the thing is, okay, let's take Premo's situation.

Now, who would be the judge and the jury that would say, oh, my, yo, Bill, check it. Premier is not DJing live. But again, man, I'm with you. But this is 93, dude. I know Bill done it. No, he worked, he did that Janet remix. 97.

Yeah, 97. Was it 97? Was it 97, 98, yeah. Right. Was it together? No, no, no, no. This is before. I don't want to be historical.

Whatever it was. This is like, even though. Okay, the earlier, the earlier Janet, the even more, I would have been like, oh,

finally like, we made it. Like I would have cheered that one of us got in, you know, not like, oh, he,

he's selling out because he's not plugged in. Like, it's overthinking it. He produced the record, so he already made it. But no, no,

I'm just saying that, whatever the situation, if he produced her, didn't produce it or whatever. The whole point of it was that she wanted, okay, she was drinking from his milkshake. She wanted some of that street cred. And I drink your milkshake. Yeah, I have a straw. Yo, wait. I drink it up.

Side note. Side note. Take your milkshake. I cannot wait. I cannot wait. I cannot wait until Bunby is a guest on this show. So I can see these two out, Criterion Collection,

each other of movie trivia. Yeah, I think that's overthinking it. And a lot of our artists, our artistes, they kind of just, they... But you got to have a line, though. I mean, I think, like... Everyone has a code.

Yeah, you got to have a code, man. And so my thing is just like, again, cashing out versus... Caching in versus Cell. selling out. To me, it's only a sellout move if you do something that is against your principles. You know what I'm saying? That's against your core principles, whatever they may be. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, I would not betray my heart to quote, you know, a famous city. Our great brother. You know what I mean? Made in this damn room. Oh, well, there it is.

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A lot of it is promo because I'm a promo, but I don't know. No, but I like it. My sophomore solo album, No News is Good News, Will Drop at the Top of 2017. my workload this year is too hectic and I want to get it right and I was like oh that's really nice he's like leveling with his fans

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Jesus Christ. Now, he did this. Ah, man, you're going to make me call up. All right. Just go to my discots page. Just go to my discots page. And let's just assume that, Let's pick a number.

Maybe 99.44% of anyone I've ever worked with. I'll say this with the exception of Jay-Z. Jay-Z was probably one of the rare cats that, like, it was a pleasure to work with him. That's why I worked with him. Not because, like, I saw, like, oh, a payday or finally, like, a way out of this crab barrel. You know, it's just that, you know,

the amount of times I've had to Jedi mind trick someone like say I'm working on a song with somebody and I feel as though you know a particular like the one is where this particular thing is like battling over where the one

is. It's like one of my main arguments with people. So it's to the point where I'll just naturally go to another count or whatever just so that they'll contrarian by nature will just go to the opposite place until they do. Which is where you want them to be anyway.

Exactly. Wow. Exactly. What do you want at? With me. Okay. That I'm, I don't, I don't want to hear it. Literally, my, my, my theory is that if the crash symbol and the kick go at the same time,

that's, that's the beginning of the sentence. Okay. Yeah. All right. Now, here's the thing, though. I feel like we kind of Tarantinoed you in this situation. I kind of wanted to build up to this movie, but it was so powerful. Yeah.

No, man. You all have to talk about it. Yeah, great word. I kind of want to work backwards because even before, don't think twice, sleepwalk with me. Yeah. When I saw it, even then I thought like, oh, man, this is awesome. My Life's story.

Like, because you never, at least with hip hop, especially after 1997 and music in general, there's this dividing line between the winners and the losers. where winners are celebrated and the losers are forgotten about or never celebrate it, to me it was always good to see the working man, the blue-collar working men. And, you know, in that film, you drive yourself. Yeah, I drive my mom's station wagon around the country. To these far off gigs. Tell us all the process of driving to your own gigs.

Especially tell me about the comedy condo. Yeah, I can tell you. So every comedian stays in the comedy condo. Yeah. So the comedy condo usually means you'll have a comedy club in a town and like Nashville, Tennessee and let's say. And like Zaney's comedy club of not making up that name. That's a real club in Nashville. It's pretty good.

It's a really good club actually. And then the owner will be like, well, it's less expensive if you can even imagine this. It's less expensive to buy a condo to have all the comedians stay in that condo Then it would be to put them up in hotels So there would be the club and then there'd be like the comedy condo and it's like it's always terrible It's always like the tell me some more stories man no just like you just end up in I don't know like sheets are horrible or yeah you know it's like yeah it's and is it you by yourself or like you're with like two other comics usually. So you're with like the feature act or the in the MC. And then, uh, yeah,

I mean, some of them you know, some of them you don't. I don't know. Like I, what happened was is I was working the door at the DC improv when I was in college. That's sort of how I, I broke in. And I, the first guy ever open for was Chappelle, actually. Okay. And so it's really true that he was 14, 15. Yeah. So he was, he was headlining that club. I, I was 19. He was like 23, 24. Half baked was about to come out. Okay.

What was fascinating about meeting Chappelle when he was that young is that he was, and I learned this trick from him because I do it now. Like people come up to me now and they're like, hey, I know you from blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, I have a movie out right now. It's called Don't Think Twice. It's down the street, blah, blah, blah. Because I remember saying to Dave Chappelle like, how do you come up? How do you do this?

How do you do this? And he was like, he would give me, he gave me advice. and then he would be like, my movie Half Bake's coming out for four weeks, and it's at the East Street theater down the street, get all your friends to go.

Like, there is, you know, Chappelle is like, he's like Sam in the movie, but he's like Jack also. Like, if you think about it, he's got both of those in him. He's got insane amounts of integrity, but he also,

he is, he does, he makes a fuckload of money. He does, he makes a fuckload of money, he's a real businessman. No? Mm-mm. You're just going to shake your head? Right.

Thank you, Mike. No? I won't say Sam and I won't say Jack. Oh, you think he's Miles? I won't. Oh, I'm sorry. Forgive me. You're right, Sam.

He's like Sam, right? He's definitely Sam. He is Sam because he walked away from all that money, Comedy Central. Yes. But he is like Jack in the sense that he's ambitious. He's an ambitious person. You don't write like 19 hours of stand up and not be an ambitious person. it just

again it's the voices I wish the world knew like I was one of those guys that like and I don't lately I've been on this kick like on social media about how important meditation is and I mean the only thing I can logically say is that

you know if you look at Russell Simmons in the 80s looking like a 50 year old but see him now in the early yoga the early arts still looking like he might be 49 50 and he's approaching in 60s

like I wish everyone really knew the addiction and the magic of what meditation is and how it can really truly save your life you know there's a group of people in my life that overthink a lot of things and kind of, you know, it's, I think it's just the fear of failure or the fear of fumbling in public. You know, and I know we live in kind of a social media world and whatever, which everything is documented. And no one wants to, you know, try the process in front of the world watching them.

but I just feel as though crucial. The way that was explained to me in a way that I truly understood how meditation works is, of course, they used a MacBook Pro analogy, which they said, okay, so whenever you get the rainbow wheel that you hate and you have like 95 a gazillion windows open on Safari, you know, what's the thing you do? And you're like, well, you either force quit or you reset. and breathing literally deep breathing

literally slows your mind down and it closes all those windows and you make better decisions in life with a clear head like where I am right now my life would spit literally with 14 I mean boss bill will tell you what a nightmare I am

I can watch for that too Steve yeah Steve probably knows better than This is why a thing called Team of Mir exists because logical thinking is out the window with me because I'm busy trying to figure out like, you know, which Wu-Tang song is going to go with which David Burns song at next month's show. Like that's the stuff I'm thinking about. So it's, I don't know what two plus two equals. Like there's some information that I'm going to lose and there's some information I'll retain and use. But I'm just saying that I really think that meditation is the answer.

But I know it just sounds so cosmic and weird in the way that your eyebrows are looking at me like, I don't know if you're full of shit or not. No, I'm totally agreeing. I just know it's also. Oh, that's your natural face. That's my natural face. And it's also like it takes sometimes to get to a certain age to get to that point.

But you're totally right. And I know I don't say that to you often. Can I ask you a question about that? Because we were talking before about being a businessman versus selling out whatever. I feel like you are saying that you are thinking about what song is next and whatever,

but you're also a very like in tune business person. So it's not like you're completely vacated the other part of this because you don't. You're not just like in your creative world where you have nox. You're like la la la. I'm not at all.

Look, the further, the furthest I go with business, at least my business thought, is to make sure that I, I generate enough business so that my mama don't move into my house. Hey, Miss Jackie.

So wait, Mike, can we start? I wasn't kidding when I said that we're Tarantinoing this. No, no, so I want to start with your comic beginnings. So when I started out, I was working the door, the DC improv, and I was opening for guys, like I said, Chappelle and like Brian Regan, Mitch Hebburg, David Tell, guys would come in there. You knew Mitch Hebbler? Yeah.

Wow. What was he like, man? Mitch was... Like, how do you come up with so many just... How? You know what he said? He said a thing that I think he's really wise, which is he thinks that people undervalue daydreaming. You know, like, just sitting there.

Just like thinking, writing step down. That's the best thing I ever heard in my life. Yeah. A lot of times I'd see Mitch somewhere. I remember opening for him once in Dayton, Ohio. That's where I met him. And then, like, years later, I ran into him, like, in Montreal, a festival. And he was just, like, lying backstage before the show, listening to music with his headphones.

And he's just, like, lying on his back. And everybody else is, like, networking, talking to each other. And he was just, like, daydreaming. Like, that's what he was all about. So people would be, like, where does his thoughts come from? he's just always kind of lost in his thoughts and he'd write down and you know write down everything wow i've never heard of a person that uh does these nonsensical just or just these random he was unbelievable all over the place uh you know these these thoughts so literally he would just

write down just oh yeah he had just like his wife lynn has just no piles and piles of notebooks and one of one of the things that isn't even in one of his jokes is in his notebook it says do you believe in gosh really wow and so they did like a posthumous album of his stuff and they called it do you believe in gosh yeah oh isn't that great where is that notebook now she has all of that up in the their cat they had a cabin in the woods and i think big bear and uh that's where they lived and and yeah she has all that stuff it's pretty amazing. When I met Mitch and Lynn, it was Dayton, Ohio,

I was at Joker's Comedy Club, which doesn't exist anymore. And I was trying to, like, socialize with them. I mean, I didn't know anybody. I was like, hey,

do you guys want to go bowling? It's the dumbest thing. We were next to a bowling alley. And they were like, all right. And I was terrible. I'm nervous. I'm like with my idol.

Like, I really idolized Mitch. So you knew him by that point? I was just a fan of him. Okay. And then I was opening for him. It was like the most surreal thing in my life. and then I was just terrible.

I was rolling like ones and zeros. And he said the funniest thing. He goes, I thought when you suggested that we go bowling, that you would be good at bowling. So you working in D.C. That was your introduction to the comedy of life. That was it.

I mean, you weren't like the class clown at the age of 10 or... I really wasn't. I was always sort of like, I always felt out of play. I always felt like when I would say the things that I was thinking about, people would just be like, oh, that's, that's, that's weird. You know, and, uh, yeah, and then, but I always, I always thought I was funny.

You know what I mean? Like, it was one of those things. Like, I think I'm very funny and, and they don't get it and that kind of thing. And then at a certain point, I got on stage in college and, uh, and it started to click. And in sleepwalk with me, I have that joke where I say, I'm, I'm, my my girlfriend's starting to get the age where she's thinking about having kids which is exciting because we're going to have to break up and uh i don't want to have kids until i'm sure that nothing else good can happen in my life and that was like the first time that's the real that's real that's that was the first time i made a joke on stage and it's in sleepwalk with me it's like this

as a plot point but like it was the first time where i said something it was true and it was a joke at the same time. But that's comedy. Right. And that's ended up being sort of what I do. But like that was the first time before that I was like making jokes about cookie monster. And then when I started making jokes about myself, it was better.

But I'll say that your particular brand of comedy, especially at the time where I really became aware of you, you don't see many comedians on Broadway. Yeah. And so initially I was trying to figure out. Well, okay, did you at least cut your teeth in Midtown? I was trying to figure out which side of the fence you were on. Were you alternative Brooklyn? Were you the varsity letter of the seller or were you pre-Haxville of Midtown or Uptown?

I did my toe in all of those three worlds and the road. Can you please all three? Yeah. I mean, I think ultimately you have to, I mean, it's a complex question, but you just have to be you. and it has to you have to get good enough that what you're doing

can kind of work anywhere. Okay, so the joke has to work with the alt crowd with the I'm smarter than you college crowd of the village and the hack the drunk hacks that might

Yeah, although they're the hardest of course. I mean that's why I like I've never, early on I would always get these gigs in Jersey because nobody wanted to do them. Right.

Nobody wanted to work. in Jersey, sorry, Jersey. No, I was going to ask you. Now, I know Chris Rock's regiment, and he chooses Jersey. Yeah, because it's hard, right? And, yeah, he listed like four, like, before he starts in an HBO special, whatever, he told me the five clubs that he chooses, like, a place down south, place where only old people go.

And he's like, if I can survive the scrutiny and the hard. heart like so what is your exercise process of so mine'll be like i go to the cellar i go to the i go to the i go to the to brooklyn rooms to just like feel confident to feel like oh this work this do they embrace you or do they look like uh you might be a suit you might be no in brooklyn they in brooklyn they like because they know i live in brooklyn right i i have a lot you know there's a lot of local references or whatever. But, um, and then, and then I go to the cellar. I go on the road to comedy clubs. Like, I'll go to Charlie Goodnights and Raleigh or, you know, Zanies in Nashville or that kind of thing. Because ultimately you want it to work everywhere because you want it to be human, you know,

the, the bottom line of everything is like, like hearing you guys talk about don't think twice and you're like, I'm Miles or I'm Jack or whatever, that's like gold for me. For, for me, that's like the biggest compliment. When you and I were texting last night and you're like, This person in my life is like, Lindsay, this person's like this. It's like, oh my God, it fucking worked. Like, I can't believe it. It's working because you wanted to be so human that people just see themselves in it. And that's what takes forever.

With stand-up, that's what takes years with material, you know, to get it to that point. What takes it so long? Why does it take so long to find that in stand-up? I just think because you have to do this thing of simultaneously having people see themselves in it and laugh. and laughter is just like you either get a something gets a laugh or it doesn't how does the stand-up process

versus the movie screenplay process differ well for me it's similar because I I write a lot with the screenplay and then I would have friends over like this like literally like

10 of us in a room just sitting around would read the screenplay and I would get and I would ask people for notes afterwards and so I did that about 10 times of the movie. And then... Wait, so you focus groups

like with 10 people in the room? Yeah. Isn't that the hardest thing in the world? It was really painful. Because afterwards, you get assaulted with notes and people are just like, you know, Ira Glass,

who was my producer, ended up being my producer, was just like, Mike, like, it's just not a movie. Like, it just doesn't work. And I was like, no, it does.

And he was like, I was like, it's like the big chill set in the world of an improv theater. And he was like, The characters have to be more different from each other because at that point the characters were too similar and the conflicts weren't there and yeah.

But yeah, I mean, everything I do is sort of, I work, I put in front of people. How long did it take, like from screenplay to shooting? How long did it take to do? Took about a year and a half of writing it. I was in the middle of writing another film called My Girlfriend's Boyfriend, which is an adaptation of one of my shows. Wait, you're going to make that?

I might, I might. Based on the sketch? Yeah. Was that real? Yeah, it's true. True story. That's not real. Yeah, it's true story.

The high school one? Yeah. Yeah. You can play that. You can play that track. No, I would. So I don't have to repeat it. Seriously?

Yeah, yeah, that's true. I was trying to figure out. So the gist of it, I'll tell you the gist of it. When I was in high school, I went out with this girl, and she was like, and I was, like, I was, like, really into her. and then she was like, I have another boyfriend, but it's kind of ending and that kind of thing. This is going to be fine. And then she invites me to meet her parents,

and I go, and I was like, oh, this is going to be my big moment. I drive your parents' house and we're hanging out. And then this other guy comes over, and I'm realizing slowly that it's her other boyfriend. Oh, wow. And, like, it's going okay. Does he know your... No, I don't think so.

I think he just thought I was a friend. In retrospect, I don't. don't know for sure, but like, and, and, and so. Is that real? That ain't real at all. Like, if that was us and like, yeah, because I'm like, who's his motherfucker? Yeah, yeah, yeah, why is it enough dick in the room? Come on.

Is that happy or? No, no. That, I'm sorry. I mean, that's, that's Abby's the character's name and sleepwalk with me, which is not her real name in real life. Okay, okay. But, uh, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, yeah. No, that was this girl in high school.

And I was, man, I, yeah, I was just really hung up on her. And I wanted to believe it was going to work. Well, see the Led Zeppelin slow-dance chick? No, no, that's different. That's different. Yeah, for some reason, like, I've... You've jumbled my love life. I've jumbled your love life and all the same woman.

But so if comedy, I don't know if that's a cliche, like comedy being time and tragedy. Yeah. The other day, the other day I tweeted, comedy is... tragedy plus fuck it so how do you make a joke of you have an insomnia and oh yeah that I mean that was weird you really fell out the window yeah that's a true story

so but you guys do you guys know the story I have a sleep disorder where I sleepwalk and I jumped out a second story window at like yeah I was on the road this is like probably 10 years ago now I was at La Quinta Inn and Wall

Wall of Washington. Got all Lakinta. Yeah, I was at Lakinta in. And I had a dream that there was a guided missile headed towards my room. And I was like, I jumped out of bed. I was like, there was military personnel in my dream there. And I was like, what's the plan? And they said, the missile coordinates are set on you.

And so I decided in my dream, as it turns out, it was in my life as well, to jump out the window. so as to detonate outside the window for the sake of the platoon. So I jumped through the window like the Hulk. And I landed on the front lawn. I got up and I kept running. And I'm slowly realizing I'm on the front lawn of Lakinta-in and Walla Walla, Washington, in my underwear bleeding. I was like, oh, no.

But I swear to God, I was relieved in that moment that I hadn't been hit by the missile. I was like, that would have been a disaster. And so, yeah. ended up being sort of the baseline of what my whole, it was a one person show off Broadway and then it ended up being my first movie. But yeah, in response to what you're saying, like, how am I comfortable talking about that? For a while, I wasn't.

For a while, I was like, okay, I'm going to say this. Who's the first person you told? Oh, that's a good question. Well, first person I told was my wife, who at the time was my girlfriend. And I called, you know, I called her in the middle of the night. And I was just like, hey, you're not going to believe you. not going to believe this. From the hospital, right?

No, it was weirdly from the, from the front desk of Lakinta in. You didn't die, man. In Walla Walla, Washington. No, and I was bleeding and everything. And, you know, I called her and I was like, hey, this is what happened. And I called my parents. And I went to the doctor. I went to the hospital.

I went to check myself in the emergency. I was like, I'm the Hulk. I'm the Hulk. I were like, no, you're Bruce Banner. I was a point-taking nerd. And, uh, and, and, and, And, yeah, no, so it was, yeah, it was a really weird thing to tell people. And I didn't really, actually, it's funny you should say that.

We were talking about Heedberg. Headberg was one of the first people I told. It was, uh, it was at Caroline's. It was like a couple months later. And it was Mitch Hebburg and Lynn Chalkoff were there. And I just told him what had happened. And he, you know, he has, he, you know, he had a lot of demons, obviously. And, uh, he had a, you know,

he had a lot of issues and I think you know I think he understood it in some way like I think that there was a there was a it was the closest I ever felt to Mitch was when I explained to him that I jumped through a second-circ window so it wasn't like yo the crazy shit just happened to me last night no I mean I was really fucked up from it because I mean I still am to this day like I'm still when I go to you know when I go to bed at night I sleep in a sleeping bag I'm not making this up I take medication I sleep in a sleeping bag I was getting sad and I for a while there I was wearing mitten so I couldn't open the sleeping bag.

Oh my God. Yeah. And so. So is there anything like that can, I guess, cure? There's no cure. There's no cure. Yeah. I mean, you can take medication.

I take, I take clonopin, but, but, and I go to my sleep, my sleep doctor, but it's, no, there's no cure. There's never, I'm going to have to live with this for the rest of my life. Wait, am I being intrusive if I ask, when's the last time you sleep walked? No, you're going to ask. It's probably like, it. It happens a handful of times a year, so like six times a year or so I'll have an incident. Like I remember a few years ago, it was like New Year's Eve, and I did all the things that

trigger it. Like I was eating red meat and I was drinking and I was doing, I was sleep deprived, we were out to like 5 a.m. And then I had a dream that there was a, this is a kind of abstract, but that there was a, it was like an alien was in my throat. And when I woke up, I was. trying to gorge myself in the bathroom. I was trying to, like, rip, like, something out of my throat.

That's when I woke up. And I had, I was, and I, I had lost my voice for the next couple days, or at least the next day or so. Wow. Yeah. It's, it's not. That's creepy. Yeah, no, it's tough.

I mean, it's, it's definitely, like, one of those things where that's my, you know, we all have our thing. It's like, that's my thing. I mean, that, it's pretty embarrassing for me, but I kind of broke through the, like, uncomfortability of discussing it. And now I'm like, yeah, that's just what I, that's what I am. But you say, like, you do know at least kind of what will trigger it. So is there?

Yeah, I mean, you, you know, there's this great book if anyone has a sleep disorder. Or if anyone has bad sleep or whatever, this is this great book called The Promise of Sleep. And, you know, they basically say a few hours before bed, turn off your phone, turn off the internet, don't eat big meals, you know, like that kind of thing. Don't watch TV news. And of course, like, that's all. I violate all the shit. Yeah.

No, and so that's, you know, you try not to do that stuff. So it has to be totally silent? That's, yeah, and that's the hope. Yeah. Sometimes I listen to like meditation podcast and things like that. But what about like when you have a wild night with your wife? Like, as you just puts you to sleep, what do you do? Like, do you automatically?

That's us. No, no, no. She'll like, she'll like, a lot of times she'll, she'll, like, wake me up. be like, hey, you should take your pill and that can't. And she'll stick me in my sleeping bag. She literally said my wife calls it my pod. She'll be like, she calls me Mo. My name's Mike.

Not Jim. But she'll go Mo, she'll go Mo. It's time to get in your pod and she'll stick me in. It's, yeah, it's, uh, wow, that's crazy. It's embarrassing. So if she wants some, she got to unzip you. Unzip me. Yeah, yeah.

I don't see why it's embarrassing. That's fascinating, man. I don't know why you'd be embarrassed by that. Really? Not the sleeping bag part. That's embarrassing. Just the sleep. The sleep blocking?

Yeah. It's just one of those things where I thought that people think I was crazy. You know, people think like, oh, this guy's just not all there. I mean, it's the kind of thing that in the 1800s, they'd put you in a hospital and they'd throw away the key. You know what I mean? Like, it's, if you jumped. Think about that another era. You jump through a second story window.

Yeah, that puts your way. In your sleep. Yeah. I'm amazed that you survived. This guy's crazy. Amir, I'm a phenomenal athlete. Look at me. People, I mean, people aren't looking at me at home so you can Google image me.

And you can see. It's B-I-R-B-I-G-L-A. B-I-G-L-A. You are a Google nightmare. I didn't realize the R was the third letter of your last name. So for the longest, I was looking up Babiglia. Oh, God. Like, yeah, it was, it was, it took me time.

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So, Mike, what is your, Okay, I hate to ask this question because I also asked Lynn Manwell, this question as well. Any kind of old, his eyes in the air slightly irked. But have you started working on your next project? Only if this becomes so gargantuan that it becomes a burden that you could run the risk of writers block or whatever. so are you immediately pushing for the next project? I have like five, well, I have like three or four movie ideas that are kicking around in my head right now. And I like to kind of let them fight with each other.

Like I don't rush to write one of them. I just let them kind of play around in my head. And then if one of them feels strong enough, then that's when I'm going to write it. But in the meantime, I'm just trying to live, you know, and, you know, be a, I have a 50, 15-month-old daughter and I'm just trying to hang out with my wife and my daughter and regret. Thanks. Just trying to live a bit.

You know, I feel like I've been, I've been kind of hustling for like 15 years, 16 years. And I'm trying to like spend. You're trying to take a break now? Yeah. It's an awesome looking hustle though. But wait.

To your IMD page. Well, it's weird only because like I feel like, ah, you're about to arrive to such a rival place. Like now's not the time to I think he's, well, because I had a conversation about this with

Unpaid Bill. Unpaid Bill. Craig, Bays, Carter. Carter. Homie Carter, who's one of the writers from how I met your mother. Men and we were talking early and we had a

conversation that was almost exactly what you're saying, Mike, in the sense that once you get to this point in your career, I think in age rather, particularly when you have a kid. Yeah. You work smarter, not harder. Yeah, I think that's what I'm trying to. Yeah, you got to kind of read, you know what I'm saying?

Like the days of me staying up all night and just working, you know, 12, 16, 18 hours straight in the studio. It's like, dude, I'm, fuck that. Yeah, I can't do that anymore. I'm the same exact way. I'm working then I'm going to bed because it's like I got to be a carpool at 3.30 tomorrow, bro. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Like, fuck it. This shit will still be here when I, you may look like confused. Like, what is this kind of talk? What is this not working? What is this? This is this McDonald's. But Mike, are you cool with that?

Like, are you cool with where you are right now? I mean, it's kind of dope to look. Like I said, look at your IMD page and see that you've been in train wreck. You got orange and new black. You got your own projects. Are you cool with that? Or do you want to be like, you know, recognizable on the streets and everybody? No, no.

It's weird. I am cool with it. I, when I was, part of the reason I feel like I was able to write the movie was in my 20s, I feel like I wanted this one type of success. And it's like what me and all my buddies wanted the same fucking thing. We want to like write for Conan or S&L or this or that or whatever. And then you get to be your 30s and you start to be like, no, no, no, that's not what success is. Success is like any number of things on a spectrum and that's personal to you.

And so I'm just starting to understand like, no, no, I'm my own thing. And I don't need to be like you're saying, like recognizing the street and all that kind of stuff, which I think in my 20s I craved. Partly because I've single. So in your head, in your 20s, in your 20s, riding. for Conan would have been the pen ultimate. It would have, yeah.

It would have been the ultimate thing. But do you think it's more of an insatiable thing because I've had that thing where it's just like, yo man,

if I just get one Grammy, that's all I want. And then it happens. And then you're like, all right, if we could just come home with like $5,000. That's all I want.

Wait, if I lived a life where like I could just get four pairs of Nike's, Every month, that's all I want. And then it was like, okay, a five-bedroom house. And I swear God, no more, that's all I want. Well, the craziest thing I think is like...

It just never stops. Well, I find that, that's what I like about New York City. Is it less like that than Los Angeles, I think, in my opinion. When you go to Los Angeles, I feel like you see a lot of people who they got into it for the right reasons, and then they start to take money gigs just because they're around. And, you know, there's money all around in Hollywood. and I feel like my goal is just to continue like I think don't think twice is better than sleepwalk with me

I hope my third movie is better than my second movie I hope I can make about 10 in my life and then that'll be it for me you know what I mean like that's real that's all I want to do so you see an endgame you see a oh I can walk away from this yeah I think about 10 movies to get back to Tarantino I mean Tarantino is like that's what he said that's what he says Yeah, I mean, even on a hip hop, right, you know, Hank Shockley, who is the main producer of

Pogany. Yeah. I'm talking for the people. No, no, no, no. I'm still, for the people. No, no, I wasn't correcting you. I'm still getting over the chill of stopping. Well, to that point, Hank Shockley always said that bands, after three records, they need to just be like, fuck it.

And, I mean, and to be fair, if you look at a lot of bands, like, their first three, not that they didn't make anything great after that, but I mean, look at Public Enemy look at Outcast, look at See, but the thing is, we didn't start popping to our fourth record. Well, y'all didn't start popping

And pop is relative. Popping is different. Y'all didn't pop into y'all. And again, y'all were one of the ones like, I mean, I brought all your records, but even still, y'all got the opportunity to make that record.

Y'all came along at a time where, you know, well, in your particular situation, you were given that space to get to record three, four, five, whereas now, you know what I'm saying? You know, particularly black artists, you're not getting that many chances at bat without a home run. It's just stopping.

Joy means different things to different people. No, no, no, no. This is from a dude that took his first vacation recently. and to not work for five days, it wasn't killing me as bad as I, you know, didn't think it was going to kill me. Like,

because normally when I tried to do that, okay, I'm not going to work today, whatever. And I just feel like, like something's happening. Someone's getting the advantage that, you know.

Do you want kids in a, right? Like, do you want to be married with kids? Yeah. At some point? I want. But no,

that changed. things dude I think you'll relate to a lot of what like what Mike is like just kids it just that it changes everything man your priorities if you have a conscious if you have a conscious

it changes things I know some ambitious people that put their family second I can see that I don't think that I could do that but I'm also a person

that doesn't say why I'd never do You won't do that because you waited this long. Those other people started early and they don't appreciate it. You'll appreciate it more. I'm sorry. Just the fact of the matter. No, that's a bad point.

I mean, because right now, I mean, I have my boys. I'm from the South. We, you know, we start early. So, you know, it was, you know. Not seriously, for real. I mean, my boys are 15 and 10. Whoa. Yeah, I mean, yeah.

I'm sorry, Fonte. Yeah, no, we start early. I mean, it's the country. What the fuck else are you going to do with, you know, cook out and not pull out. Jesus. That's just what you do. But, um, but not, but what, like a freight, wait, stop.

Did you just coin like a, I don't even know what the fuck kind of phrase? Like, really? I guess so, man. Does that count as an idiom or I don't know? I'm writing it down. I just came. I just pulled out or we just took out and don't pull up. Mike should tweet that.

Yeah. You mean to end my career? But no, man, I hear what you're saying. No, Mike. I mean, I think, you know, particularly when you get to that because it's not from what I heard you say it's like it's not like therapy and shit now

what I heard you say it's not that it's necessarily stopping I think it's just necessarily just getting to that point where you realize like okay I've done once you get to a point where you realize I've expressed myself to the on the highest level that I can whether it's a movie whether it's

a radio show whether it's a pot whatever if I've done that on the highest level right then I Which leads back to our earlier conversation. Okay. Of listening to those voices in your head. Now, what I'm just saying is if you think that there is a limit, like, okay, now, logistically speaking, now, if we're talking to, uh, 20-year-old Amir Thompson busking on the corners of South Street, in Philadelphia.

Now if someone came up to me and said, check it. All right. Like, it's my version of Jacob Marley that says, you know, okay, now here's the deal. You're 20 now. And, you know, I'm actively in hip hop.

Now, usually, quote, it's supposed to go down at least in, like two years. That's when you get your moment in time. Yeah. Now, if that voice told me, you're going to get your moment And whatever your moment is is relative.

I don't mean like, you know, just, no, I got you. It's a poor champagne on people or whatever. But if someone would have told me that 25 years from now, when you're 45, it's going to be on and pop. But till then, it's going to be the slowest,

most torturous ride of your life. Like, do you think, do you think Biggie would have stuck over? Like if someone told Biggie, all right, all right, Christopher Wallace at 19, it's just not really going to happen for you to like 43. Do you think he would have been like? I don't think he maybe he would have stuck around. I mean, I don't know.

But I mean, but that's like it for everybody, though, I think. I mean, if you really look at it, you know, in terms of. But that's the thing. And I can kind of back it up with science a little bit, pseudo, whatever. But there was an article I read a while back. they talk about why how creative people why most of their creative peaks happen in like your late 30s you know what I'm saying

like your late 30s early 40s that's really when you get to your money making years and it's something to do with that's when both sides of your brain kind of learn to talk to each other so it's like you learned how to merge the creative and the business and you kind of what you're saying you kind of get out of your head a little more but you understand how to make those two sides coexist so that's why people have they created breakthroughs so i mean so for somebody like mike i mean you know you were just the comedy

seller guy i mean like did you ever think like man i'm gonna make a fucking movie i mean was that you know i always thought that was gonna happen faster like amir saying i always thought like when i was like i was like i'll make my first movie at 24 and then no it's like when i was 32 it's like we know it's like literally 10 years longer than I thought it was going to be. Okay. Now I'm just saying that in your... 38 now. No, no.

I didn't mean apostrophe R.E. I meant in your eight movie plan. Yeah. In your eight movie plan. 10 movie plan. Eight more movies. Okay. Yeah.

In your 10 movie plan, what if movie number seven becomes your PC resistance? What if you win... Like Star Wars? Yeah. drop the mic and leave, you mean? Well, no, I'm just saying that. What if it enables you to start an empire? Oh, I see what you're saying.

Like Appetau or something, where, like, I had like a 40-year-old virgin kind of thing. And then all of a sudden I could branch out and make Barbiglia films that put their stamp on a bunch of different. I'm positive that Larry Sanders era Apatow didn't even think that he would be the comedy go to God he is right now. No, I don't think so probably I think it takes that time no man

because you gotta think about it like tenure now is you're saying that 22 year old guy right? I think sometimes we have to grow into as a ours you have to give your times give yourself space to grow into that so you're ready for it. So if you were that guy at 22 beating on buckets and they gave you to tonight show

you would probably would have fucked it up you know what I'm saying? Because you weren't ready for that at that time. Nobody's ready for that. No one is ready for that. Like, I mean, you don't have no, your brain is not even fully formed to, like, calculate risk and shit. You know what I'm saying?

Like, it's not even, you're not ready for it. I never desired the show. It wasn't the dream like where, like, Doc Severinson's on the wall. Like, one day, man. I'm going to be that, dude. But, like, I take it as it comes. But if I were, when I was 38, uh, okay, 2009

I have no shame in my sageness and in my elder statesman whatever I might get a little irked if

you know millennial calls me OG but are you an OG yet I'm certainly an OG no but I mean has like

someone like Cuddy called you OG yeah like I've been called OG yo what up OG I used to listen to you

in middle school oh I get that now really I get People, I, people in my show saying, I listen to you in middle school. Wow. Yeah, it's crazy. They don't call you OG.

Nobody calls me, nobody would ever call me OG in any context. Let me keep retweeting you. You will get an OG. Just wait a week. Well, I'm just saying that in 2008, 2009, I, you know, I, I don't know. I just feel like to say what your plans are. I feel like that's desire, not plan, because if you do become an Apatau or have an opportunity to become or be greater than that, to become Spielberg or greater, I would think that you, that might be a Sam zone that you're in. If you walk away for it, for any other reason, then you absolutely must bond with your kids.

but even then like Spielberg has kids and a family and that sort of thing is able to juggle it. So I'm saying that I don't know if you see. But I relate most to Sam in the movie. Like when I look at Sam, I'm like, oh, that's what I wish I was. I wish I was someone who had complete integrity and didn't care about all that. I didn't bring him to your side. I didn't see her.

I didn't see it as well, again, I didn't. I didn't see it as integrity like she was just She was scared Yeah I thought she chickened out At first she was scared but then when she broke it down She was not scared she explained that I really don't want to do that I really don't want to be that I don't want to be on that show I'm good on this lily pad I still think there might have been some fear in that

In the beginning yeah but I'm talking about when she You think? Yeah I still think it's all fear. Fear of yeah well fear of maybe getting to that point where you think you might be selling out Okay so one another scene that that Sam reminded me of So where's the line, right? So Louis, you know, I don't know if you watch Louis. I do.

The scene where Louis is in his, it's in like season four, where he goes to his agent, he has the opportunity to host the show. The host Letterman. And his agent just sits him down and it's like, look, dude, this is what it is. You make $80,000 a year, your stand-up comic, you know, the shit is not going to get any better than this. If you were waiting for that moment, this is that moment right here. And if you don't take it, you're done forever.

You know what I mean? Just kind of just that, you know, that nut up or shut up kind of moment, right? And so he... Unpaid bill just got really excited. Anytime... Someone's keeping a list. Anytime you come down your mouth. Like...

It just... Oh, my God. I thought it was put up or shut up. When I come from, that's what it is. But we're from different places. Like, just like a little. He's watched Houston 500 a lot of times. There was two roads.

You took that one and I took that one. Yeah, got it. The paths diverged. But, but, nah, so where is that, as an artist for you, Mike? So where, where is that moment? Because you could say again where, I'm just trying to understand how can we say that a person is sabotaging when, again, it just may be a thing where you just say, look, I know my limitations. You know what I'm saying? And.

Well, it's just, it's just what you, I think. you ultimately have to do what you love and not what you like. So it's like people say to me now, like, oh, the next movie you'll make will be with the studio. It'll be like Universal or Paramount or whatever. And I'm like, I don't really like those movies.

I don't really like big movies. I love small movies. Like I love movies like Don't Think Twice. And, you know, Captain Fantastic is a good one that's out right now. And tickled. Like there's like indie, small indie films. There's like what I love. You had an absolute final say on this film?

Yeah, I had final cut. I had final cut in my first one. I just want to, in all my one person shows, the same thing. Has Hollywood come a knocking? Yeah, they call. Okay. New phone, who it is. I was going to say, by the way, congrats.

Like, I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed with any, not aggregates, but just any sort of rating system. and you know when I first saw that 99 Rotten Tomato thing I just thought like oh okay one person reviewed it and then that was the yeah yeah and then I realized like yo this is like and I cross the board this is probably the highest rated

uh movie that has at least a minimum of 20 major reviews to it like everyone's just yeah I've been I mean I don't know what the humble thing to say is here people like people have been digging it like I've been really lucky I've been yeah like this this is the equivalent of this is really the equivalent of like if I got to put in perspective of illmatic getting five mics yeah no this is the oomatic five might moment where you know like critics are really truly getting it for those that don't understand the reference

is ill-matic Because I feel From Latin meaning Illmatic Did your mom and all her friends Write all those rotten tomato reviews? No, okay So for hip hop heads

Naz's Illmatic And the Extremely glowing review That I guess we can Reveal that Minio-O Miss Info was quote Shorty

You didn't know this? No She wrote that review. Yeah. I didn't even know she was meaning. Oh, I didn't know Ms. Info. Okay, thank you. Yeah.

Yeah, back when Minio was at the source magazine, back when that was our pitchfork. It was, yeah. That was our pitchfork. That was our Rolling Stone. And there was a good six-year stretch of it being absolutely the incredible last word on what was quality hip-hop or not. And then mad men got four and a half and it was just like this. Then G. Deb got four and a half. Yeah, it was just like, fuck.

Then Little Kim got four and a half. No, no, no, no, little Kim got five. Little Kim got five. She got five. She got five. First Apple? No. This is the one where she knew.

The notorious K-I.M. No, it wasn't that one. It was the one after that. Oh, the naked truth? Yeah. Because that was. Oh, crap. Oh, well.

Because the dude was like her, what was it? Her. Wait, was that the one? My songs on there. Yeah. Hey, well deserves it. You played on Lighters Up? Yeah.

Oh, what? Light as up was a tipping point track and then Scott gave it to... All right, do you remember the... Now we're falling down, rabbit hole. Do you remember the senior love daddy shoutout moment, do the right thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We love radio. Senior love that. And when he names all those groups, well, like, I was watching that and made a beat from that with Scott and we were going to take it. And then next thing I know, even here at the beginning,

like, you hear my drumsticks and all. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was a root track. Wow. But now it's a five-mite classic. Thank you. Hey, don't take the source. Add that to your resume.

Yeah, but no, I'm just saying that when Nas's Illmatic got reviewed, that was, it was, well, it was a game-changing moment in hip-hop, and I guess it wound up being a burden to Nas at the end. Yeah. No, it really did. It became a burden, and so, you know, I'm going to get. a 90. I think getting a 99 is better than getting 100. No, I think.

Well, there was one, yeah, there's one negative one from the Washington Post. And I, he even tweeted about it because Seth Rogan tweeted, like, I agree with all the critics. I agree, like, I agree with all the critics about don't think twice or whatever. And then that motherfucker tweeted. I won't even say his name. It's like, not all the critics. Oh. I was like, no, I'm not, I'm not, that was petty.

Yeah, that's petty. That's Tom Petty. I was like, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna rape. I'm not gonna dignify it. That's like me putting in my two cents on the new Frank Ocean album. Oh. Oh.

But I feel like you're the kind of person that lives to just kidding. Oh, totally. Bill, this is the weird thing, though, because I don't feel that boss Bill is the guy that genuinely feels that he needs to knock down your jenga game but just part of him that just has to Charlie Brown kick your jenga game I'll let you play jenga if you know if it looks like you guys know what you're doing but if you don't know what you're doing I'm gonna knock that shit down I don't let somebody else play but all right did you all right more rabbit hole falling did you

I'm loving the janga metaphor I'm just saying that I don't Is the Jenga more metaphor out of respect for the Jenga in the movie? Yes. Okay, good. I love it. I'm just saying that, like, but part of you knew that you didn't want to like it in the first place. No, it's not, I didn't go into it and not wanting to like it. Your voice got so high.

I didn't go into it knowing that I didn't want to like it. It's, I knew what to expect and I knew. So even knowing when was expressed. Sadly knowing what to do it. Well, it's like, I didn't. knew what's expected and I didn't want to like just you know go off the cuff and say oh it's trash and I didn't even listen to it I needed to get confirmation and I got confirmation so Frank Ocean is trashed it's confirmed but I don't think we don't know words here I

I still say that you have to live with something uh for about three months before you really no not really yeah it's yeah I don't know yeah it's like it's like I could listen to Yeezus and know that I never needed to listen to it again. But you see, I had to change your art about Yeezus. Yeah, you had to go to a loud ass stadium where I believe Bob Power, who was our guest when you told this story, said that if you

play anything at a loud volume, it automatically sounds better. So, I mean, come on. Or in a strip club. Like, that was how... So, I mean, if you're listening to Yeisus at a loud volume at Madison Square Garden, it's going to sound like, it's going to sound amazing. Because everything

sounds amazing. Send it up was the only one that stuck from me on that album. Like, send it up, I cut for it. Like, that one was like, okay, I fuck with Send It Up. And Black Skinhead is like great montage, Navy Steel Training music. That's cool. But, like, you know what I'm saying? But other than that, I mean.

Ever since they played it at the engagement party, it messed me up. Who's an engagement party? At Kim and Kanye's engagement party at the stadium. What? Jaden and we're dancing in the background. The Black Skinhead, it was like, what are we doing? Who? Jaden and Kylie.

Yes. What? I miss this. It was at the San Francisco Stadium. You didn't see it. Oh, you watch Keeping Up with the Kardashians. Oh, shit. Oh, there is.

You got to look on black Twitter more often. Yeah, that wasn't in my... I missed that, too. Oh, my God. It was a T-part episode. All right, I'm not even going to leave you out there, like you. Twice a year. You know, like, when sometimes you have to fondle your battery, your remote control.

I don't know what you were doing with your feet. But I was ready. I don't know what you would do with your finger. Go ahead. Everyone. Everyone did the same thing. It's like, wow. It's going to happen.

When your remote control batteries haven't been changed in a second. Oh, you got to roll them around. You got to roll them. Right. The Furious styles. Right. I was doing the Michael Jackson. Oh, God.

Stop, man. Stop. Don't make that hand movement. Don't make that hand movement. Do it some more. Do it. For those listening at home, you don't want to see what's happening. For those ladies listening, you do want to see what you're doing.

Do it tomorrow. Okay, so I'll admit maybe once or twice or three times a year. You know, the TV will be stuck on the E-Channel, and I'll fall into a Kardashian rabbit hole. Of course you have. About nine of those episodes will just run, and I can't stop watching it. Every man in here has watched it at least once. I've never seen one.

I've seen it. Y'all lying. Mike. Speak on it, Mike, because you quiet. Speak on it, Mike. Have you watched it? I've watched about half an episode of a Kardashian show once. And then you thought.

I didn't get into it. No, I just couldn't. I couldn't follow it. It's so the thought twists are just unbelievable, right? Like, he couldn't keep up. Well, I was confused because I turned it on just because Kanye was on it at all. Wait, he is on it? He does show up from time.

I thought he wasn't allowed to be on there more now. I thought he wasn't allowed. Sorry, Bill. We totally went in the rabbit hole. But then I was like, if he's not on it more, I'm not going to watch this because I don't know what the rest of them do. Nothing. Like, what do they do?

Like, why are they, why is this show? I think we're jealous that they're able to monetize. I don't think. I don't want to monetize my life like that. It's just annoying. That's how I feel. That's a good example, I think. I think it's a sellout venture.

Well, yeah, but they sell out on purpose. They never had like a, you know, there was never any integrity to begin with. You're right. You're right. Yeah. I mean, you think that Chris Jenner was at the murder trial of her boo that her ex-husband was defending while sitting,

defending her side dude while with the new dude. Like, that's fucking. That's like the boyfriend. Look at Mike is so confused. Mike in a mirror confused. They don't know. That's like the boyfriend that came to Mike's girlfriend's house and then Mike came there too

and those two boyfriends the same sort. Without the murder. Without the one T-E element of murder. Dun, how do we get to this? We just fell down rabbit holes.

I was trying to explain the Elmatic. Oh, yeah. And we ended up it. Which then led to Little Kim, which then led to... So let's go back to Illmatic, I guess. Yeah, so you got 99 and rotten tomatoes.

Thank you. Congratulations, Mike. That was awesome. No, but I feel like I feel lucky. I feel luckier about like us sitting around talking about it and how it relates to our lives. Then I feel about reviewers. I feel like because that's all, when you're making music or you're making a movie or whatever it is, all you want is for people to go, oh, that's like my life. And that's, you know, that's all.

I feel very lucky. Okay. You know, they don't all work. Can we go bottom line? Let's go bottom line. Yeah. across the room desires.

Like, are we really truly honest with what we want out of life? Steve, Steve Mandel, Sugar Steve, what is it that you want out of life to be, honestly, what do you want?

You go to him first of that shit? Because I know it's going to be hilarious. Pass. Oh, damn. I got to think about it. I mean, but I think there's an instinct in all of us that truly knows what we want. I mean, in what regard, though,

like personal relationships or professional? Just in general. Come on, Steve. Like, at what point, at what point are we like, I'm good? I'm satisfied. I'm going to stop.

I don't think that ever happens. I don't think you ever stop. No one's stopping. Yeah, yeah. I don't think you ever. ever stop, I think you just can reach a point of complacence. Yeah, right, you stop chasing. It's like the Bill Withers thing where he's like, you know, if you're going through, when

you're going through life, if you're on your way to excellent, right, at some point you're going to get it pretty good. And when you get it pretty good, look around because that may be as far as you're going to go. So it's just kind of like, I don't think no one ever stops, but you have to think at some point, like right now, if my life doesn't go past just being able to do. talk shit with Questlove and two Jews

my Jewish brothers you know what I'm saying like in a room and an electric lady just be able to talk shit with my homies and have like comedians Anyone's head exploded in the room behind me has a visit? Okay go ahead.

We still on. He's not red anymore. He's not red anymore. No, but I'm saying if my life doesn't go past this point it's like yo I'm good. I get to make a living fucking with people I really

you know love and respect and shit like what else i got my answer okay inspired the Elvis album the uh the we did an album with Elvis Costello all right so you're just you're content i mean when your achievements surpass your dreams all right so you got to produce your idol so you don't feel like now like okay next record yeah there's more he's gonna do he's gonna do another song that i wrote the lyrics for so it gets It gets bigger. Oh. Steve.

Yeah. Stros A. You only got one clap. Go on, girl. You know. Strug, girl. What? But that's all balanced with, you know,

you got to keep the family situation harmonious and, you know, keep the regular work job going. And if all those things are cool, then, you know, you're cool. I think so. All right. How about your sugar being right? right.

Oh my God. Can we just let one episode without diabetes being mentioned, please? No. Bill, yeah. What do you want out like besides getting laid? Which ain't going to happen. That's it. I'm done. It's going to happen, man. It's going to happen. Thank you. We along talk about that. I feel like we've all been working so hard to get to a place

where we can plateau, not like plateau in a negative sense, but in like you worked so hard to get to this place where you can do what you want. And I think that that was always my desire. It was like I did not intend to get involved in any of the things I'm involved in. Yes. Okay, but if you fulfill your ghetto, fuck egot. We're not doing egot no more. Oh.

If you get your O, if you get your O, then will you be like, I did it. That's it. I think I'd like to get the O so that we could stop talking about it. More than actually getting it The O meaning the Oscar He's an EG Grammy He's almost an EG Not in the female

Grammy Tony And you're He's like He's an Oscar You don't have an Oscar No That sounds like the most pretentious bullshit I don't have an Oscar

I don't have an Oscar You have an Oscar You have Oscar? You know how many You know how many great films Don't have Oscars? How many? All of them

Is a lot So now I feel like I'm being superficial for desires. No, man, you know, I don't think so. You are what you are. All right, now you just have to voice me. I want a boat. I think, well, I don't know.

I mean, there's this. Angela Duckworth wrote this column for the times recently where she said when you're, to college graduates, she said, I don't recommend you ask yourself, what do I want to be when I grow up? Ask yourself, what's the world I want to live in? and how can I help make that happen. I feel like now in my late 30s, I'm starting to be like, that's what I want to do. I just want to figure out how can I help?

That's real. I got a list. I got a list. So skip Fontecolo and Bill. Let's go to like you. Oh, no, I'm in a list for Mike to help. Oh. A list for what you wanted.

But I got a list for that too. Don't skip Bill. That's what I want. What I want, my desire ultimately is to make as much money as I can behind the scenes so I can only leave my house and I feel like it. Wait what? That's real. Yeah, to make as much to have enough money to where I don't got to leave my house and be seen. That is real.

You know what I mean? So that's awesome. Yeah. That's what I want. You know what I mean? It's just I think sometimes, you know, we as desires like, you know how Mike you were saying, you know, in your 20s, you think. thing, man, I'm going to do this at 24. For me, it was very much a thing where I think sometimes, you know, whatever your belief, God, you know, whatever, the universe, however you want to phrase it, I think sometimes people, you know, in life, you'll get what you ask for, but not what you want it.

You know what I mean? It's kind of like the Henry Ford thing of like, if I asked, if I would ask the public what they wanted, they did ask for a faster horse, you know what I mean? So sometimes I think in life, you can say, if you're that young kid and you just think, yo, I want to race. I want a record deal. I want a record deal. And you get the record deal and then you realize, oh my God, this is shit. So then in the midst of that record deal, you realize, you know what? What I really want is freedom. That's right.

But you don't get that until, you don't get the lesson until you get that thing that you thought that you really wanted. So for me, I'm just at a point where I was like, you know, I admire, I like my privacy. I like just, you know, laying low. I really don't do people like that. You know what I'm saying? I prefer just close company as people, you know, I do.

More jingas being kicked over here. No, yeah. He's kicking my jing. And now, man. No, he's helping you build. I'm co-signing everything. His answer is my answer. Get my bread and just be able to lay low.

And you ain't got to know my name. You ain't got to know, just know my work and know where to send my checks. That's it. I want to be the kind of guy that can shut a sight down like Gawker just, you know, out of pure spite. Yo. Right.

Who are you? It can't be like the gentle terrorist I'm with Fonte I just want to be able to do my thing how I want to do it without all the extra hullabaloo and recognition I want to be able to be a regular person but you know

that just does extraordinary shit. Oh, okay. So let me look at my list. I would like to own a home. Wow. I would like a house in Brazil, a house in D.C. And in all seriousness, I do want a house in Brazil and a house in D.C. But I would just like to get, again, I've been doing good.

I was doing good getting paid to be myself. I like that. I would like to be able to really make a living off with that. That would be great? And for a man to say one day, hey, would you marry me? Because, you know, it just, I heard that's kind of nice what a dude does that. Don't mean to get all girly on y'all. When it never happens and you're of a certain age, you're like,

and then I'd like to use this little. Gucci here for a little baby. Before it gets some unusable. I want to use this to be a baby. Well, you know, like a baby. Now that Questlove won't give me his sperm, I will take anybody.

I have a couple of short list. Ladies and gentlemen, that's another episode of Questlox is a real. Steve, you don't have any babies, do you? No. There you go. Is that sugar hereditary or is it? No, that was man-made. I caused it.

We'll talk. We'll talk. I caused it. Sorry. I'll give you one sperm. See what you're doing. Is that all you guys? The little swimmer that could.

Never had a. Okay. Yeah. I just want this episode to be over. Wait, but Amir, what do you want? What do you want? Now I feel like my life is superficial. No, go in.

Go in. Go in. Like, no, wait, you're in the circle now? Well, okay. Let me look, before you preface it, like, you have a skill set that a lot of us don't have and we can't make money off of our skill set the way that you can. So, you know, if you feel like, you know, you're once a little bit more superficial, I'm not mad at that because you have the- You got a lot more tools to work with. It's like, dude, no, seriously, it's like, because you DJ and you, your incredible drummer and you're famous.

So it's like, you almost, okay, dude, I'm going to tell you who you are. You have, you have, you're Mario. with the mushroom, with the big mushroom and the flower when you shoot out the fucking fireballs. Oh, Super Mario brothers, guys. You're Super Mario with all the fucking kids. All your powers.

All your powers. All that shit is relative. Okay, how so? It's relative. Okay, so how can I make a million dollars off of my skill set? Well, that's the thing. Because if you're 38 years old

and you say, okay well here's my final plan and da da da da da da da da i don't know i'm i'm just saying that i didn't like putting a cap on it i didn't see i didn't even imagine that that part of my life was ever going to happen i mean who starts winning at 44 man yo every dude we just had this conversation shut up my ear he was not 44 you are tripping no dude we just had i had this conversation with carter er dude like actors right Steve Correll we were talking about with Steve Correll you know

he didn't really stop popping he was 40 you look at Louis Larry David Louis didn't until 40 fucking Morgan Freeman he ain't starting he was goddamn 60 and shit you know what I mean like

dude all right my my my real I don't know if it's because of this mantra all right there's there's a spin magazine that Spike Lee was on the cover

of back in 1992 that's just like the Bible to me. Okay. Was that the one he edited? Yeah, he they let Spikely edit when Moe Better Blues came out or no, Jungle Feber, uh, the spin magazine. Okay. And he gave an article to Harry Allen, Chuck D to write of which those two accurately, um, predicted what their life would be like in 20 years. Now it's 1990 and, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, bomb squad in public enemy were so damn ubiquitous. Like between Belved DeVos, poison, fear of a black planet, ice cubes, America's most won it, the Jews soundtrack. Like they were the stand, they were the gold standard or what hip hop was. And they said, we're probably going to fall off in about three to four years.

Wow. Then our contemporaries will sort of discard us out the window. the very first time I ever heard of, because Harry's such a nerd, the idea of the information super highway, you know, we will probably, you know,

be kicked off our label, so we'll be forced to sell records on our own. They went through this whole thing, and Chuck's whole thing was like, well, not to be a total killjoy, but, you know,

I'm also in this business, my end game is to create 5,000 black leaders. Wow. And so I thought, hmm, maybe I could be a black leader or that sort of thing. I mean, it sounded lofty

and kind of just like weird, like the idea of meditating or whatever. I just read it as like, hmm, this seems a little bitter and whatever. But then I realized like, oh man, that's some legacy shit. Yeah, that's powerful. That's some real legacy shit. Well, one, they were

in that, that 18. missions they were 99% correct of what life was going to be in 2002 but at that I guess my my I guess my I guess my goal is to create a unmovable unerasable graffiti that's nice so you don't think you've done that already I mean, at the rate where my last class, where six of my 18 students never heard a thriller, that scared me. Because now I'm realizing that, you know, it's one thing where it's like, okay, you might forget EPMD's fourth record. Yeah, you ain't forgetting. But now we got a generation that may or may not know.

I mean, I hate to say that Prince had to go through his transitional process to be forever etched in the memory of a lot of people that he otherwise, especially with the way he was going with the, you know, being off the internet and stuff.

You know, like basic things that we should take for granted. Like there might be a time in 2016 where thriller might not matter. You know what I mean? Something like, Thriller. The greatest selling of album, you know, it's just, that's scary to me.

So I'm trying to... But what has lasted? I mean, other than, I mean, a song like, I mean, shit, happy birthday. I mean, what... Yeah, there's a whole book about this recently that Chuck Klosterman wrote about what is in...

What becomes history now? And he was saying, like, of all the music that exists right now, probably marching band. Because it's ubiquitous. It's in everything. It's every football game, every movie. Marching bairs will never stop.

That's like the tuxedo of music. No, I think I don't think whatever my contribution that will last is in music. So, you know, is it in the food world? Is it in radio? Is it in creating drum sets for kids? I don't know. I think you have to keep going, though. I think you have to just, you know,

when we say like not stopping, it's not, it's just, you got to use all the tools in your toolbox because you never know which one is going to knock the wall down or knock a wall down, you know what I'm saying? So it could be your fried chicken. I mean, who the fuck knows, right? It just, you have to just keep going. Go ahead.

I dare you. I double dog day. It's not be your fried chicken. That's what I'm going to do. That is not going to be your legacy quest left. That would be the blackest of me. I feel it's disingenuous of me to just say what my goals were without pointing out that like I'm also like ambitious and I want things but also like, you know, I don't know.

Like I have some jack in me too, like the jack character in me too. I mean, if my wife were here, she would like yell at me for my answer and be like, Like, that's not what you're like at all. You're ambitious, you're selfish. You want all these things. You have to be Jack to write a movie. Yeah. And direct a movie.

Yeah. And starring it. Yeah. You are Jack. I got some of it in me. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care which I'm saying.

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We're here with Mike Barbiglia, creator and star of Don't Think Twice and also Sleepwalk with me and a gazillion other projects. Orange's New Black. Yeah, well, Orange's New Black. Train, Rec on HBO. Yes. And anyone else want to? Twitter basher of Suicide Squad. Oh, yeah.

I felt you on that, man. Thank you. I got mad of MPA. because they gave me a rated R. Yeah. Suicide's brought a PG-13. How did you get an R? For smoke,

adult smoking weed. Wow. Isn't that crazy? That's... MPA-A, man. There's a crazy documentary about them. I saw it. Is it the same?

This movie is not yet rated. And it's excellent. I've heard of that. So, wait, what is the process? Like, is it just four... It's not available anywhere. Is it the four old people? I swear to God.

It's so hard for me. I know. That's what I said. I know, but now it's pulled off. I feel like, is it like the Huey Lewis High School Committee and Back to the Future that watches your movie? It's like eight people. According to this movie, this movie's not yet rated.

It's like eight people and they've been doing it forever. And I think it has sort of a moralistic bent to it. You know, and a lot of times they'll give notes in the movie. They'll be like, we should only see her orgasming for eight seconds and not 11 seconds. It's like Bill Sherman's Yeah That's crazy

That's crazy Yeah So these eight people Watch every film Every movie Yeah So what of your film Like is shown at like

One in the morning Or something like I feel like it also depends On their talent level It could just play at art houses You can have your movie be not rated But then it'll It may not end up

It can't play anywhere. Yeah, it can't play at a movie theater. They haven't even had... So you wanted this to be PG-13? Yeah, because it's harmless. I feel like teenagers can watch it, and there's nothing to it. I mean, it's just a story about friends. I wanted it to be like a big chill or like a San Amos Fire kind of movie for this generation.

So I'm like, the fact that they're kind of making it like taboo for anyone is... It's just kind of annoying. Yeah, I think it's an adult movie, but it's not like a vulgar. There's nothing in it that I thought, wants it in R, Ravit. He makes it real. Well, that's what you're saying that.

That's all I felt about. No, but the thing was, the main thing that turned me off about suicide squad was as PG-13. Oh. I was just like,

oh, it's lame. Like, if it were R, then I'd be like, oh, word, okay. All right. I would have the desire to see it. Yeah. But I did.

I know why yours is R. Yeah. Because you point out how all the pettiness in adults. People can handle it Like that was the most disturbing part to me And really the most memorable part

Was how they were friends obviously But But there's that There's that part of you That's rooting for your friend That part that's jealous Yeah And all living side by side

And it comes out You know like when When the people in your movie say Oh I just got this The gig or I got the writing gig or whatever And there's those moments of like Nobody knows what to say Because what you really want to say

Is fuck Why not me? A crazy thing about my movie is that I don't, it's great to talk about it because I can't watch anymore because I get choked up. I, like, start crying every time because I feel like I relate to all the characters. I feel sad for them. What's the moment in the movie that you most relate to? When the final scene with Jack and Sam. But wait, I was going to say, for a second, I thought you were going to make Jack sabotage.

his moment too. Oh, yeah. Nah, fuck that. He got bills. He can't do that. But for a second, he was like, maybe I won't take the train. I'm like, dude,

Lauren's going to kill you, but not Lauren, but, I mean. Timothy. Timothy. But Timothy was rather kind of douchy, though. Which I felt like you had to make him super doozy, so it wouldn't be what you think that

Lauren is because Lauren is the opposite of that sympathy guy. He's different. He's different. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I just... He's his own thing. I just wanted to make the boss like cold. You know what I mean? It's like tough. Where did that bicycle come from? That was my question. I'm sorry.

So there's like, yeah, the wooden bicycle on the movie. I live in Brooklyn by this. I always walk by this shop that has like Swedish bicycles and one day I walked by and it had like a wooden bicycle. I was like, I got to put that in something. It's so funny.

It's one of the funniest looking things I've ever seen. Are they like expensive? Is that like, is that why? Yeah, I think they're like thousands of dollars. Yeah, yeah.

And the band on the, the show. Yeah, that's a real band. They were really excited. From Nashville. Yeah, yeah,

they're called LL. Yeah, how did you? I found them, uh, just like fishing around for new bands. My wife and I just, we listened to a lot of new bands and,

and we just found that band. Really? Yeah. That's a real. band? Yeah, it was. They were. Because who sang the Dylan song

at the end? It's piano by Roger Neal. It's piano instrumental. Who is the composer, yeah, in the credits. And Dylan was nice enough to, I mean, I don't, I never met Bob Dylan, but he was,

you know, his manager, Jeff Rosen was nice enough to let us have that song for next to nothing. It's really generous. I mean, Bob Dylan's really good to independent film. I have to say, like, that guy really gives it up to a lot of movies for very little money. That's dope.

It's nice. Talk about legacy. He's a guy who's, I think, very kind of focused on sort of passing, you know, paying it forward to the next generation. Is there like a small collective of known musicians that do kind of cater or give a little? See, for us is George Clinton. For him, it's Bob Dylan. Is that right? Well, George Clinton always charged the lowest rate possible for his music.

Yeah, it was kind of the crack theory. Smart. Yeah. Like you give them. Get you a test. I'm not going to comment on that. I mean, I get you a dick. Why?

Well, I mean, George's cleaned himself up. So, yeah. Oh, yeah. But, yeah, it's the crack theory. Just give you a little taste. What's it? not really yeah

yeah give you taste and then and then get you addicted and then you keep coming back but oh by the way Dylan's a great example

of the guy who has always he never he never stopped he kept going he keeps making new albums he's not like the stones

he doesn't go out and do the hits he just he keeps like making new music side note uh the Dylan that I know like the back of my hand

This is the Christian era Dylan Yeah, yeah You had a Christian era Oh yeah There's a whole bunch of albums in there There's a Christian Yeah there's like four records that Between like 76 and

What it ended with infant Yeah Yeah So when my parents were on their Christian Kick with only Christian radio in the house I thought Bob Dylan was a Christian artist That's amazing I didn't know about like

That's incredible Didn't Dylan also do some records with full force and no with Salam Remy and Curtis Blow Whoa What? Dog, Salam Remy was

Salam's father was a staff person at Mercury So 84, 85 he was already at like 13, 14 years old producing Curtis Blow

that America album Wow The Kingdom Come album Back by Popular Demand Yeah Salam Remy. Salam Remy.

At like 15, 16 years old. You know Salam Remy did the payback mix, the James Brown pay? Wait, I did know that. I did know that. I did not know that. The payback mix, which one is it? That James Brown, like, there's like a James Brown master mix. Yeah.

Oh, wow. Yeah, you'd know it if you heard it. Trust it. So, side rabbit hole. That's a really been the name of the album. Rabbit. The rabbit. rabbit hole starting Questlo.

Questlo's rabbit hole. Not too late now. Yeah. Well, Mike, I have to say thank you. Really a sincere thanks for creating

a conversation piece and something really universal. Like it's rare. It's super rare that that I see or witness something that I totally relate to and they don't necessarily look like me per se

but I totally see myself in those characters you know I really I can't thank you enough for it like that I needed to I really need to see that film and thank you for creating it straight up. Thanks a lot of there thanks a lot of you guys thanks for giving love to the improv community too

Like that was dope. Thanks for having me on and this is this is awesome. Thank you. Thank you. Go see the movie. Go see the movie. Yes. Oh yeah.

It's in like 150 theaters in the country right now and don't think twicemovie.com if you want to find out where it is. I have to say this is one of them deep cut. Esuppose. This is one of them deep cuts. All right. So what did you learn? and Tigolo today. Man, I learned today

that Amir Thompson is one of the most shallow motherfuckers. It's fucking paper chasing and fucking people with the Jones ass fucking, yo.

It's going to make a great album intro. Nah, man. No, man, I learned that I learned that from Mike just that that whole man just that whole thing about the sleepwalking like that's just I imagine like I mean just having the courage to share something like that and

just you know knowing that you got to deal with that all your life I mean that's just something crazy but I mean he is definitely one of the favorite people that I've introduced a lot of stuff that he's saying he um I hear myself in that you know what I'm saying in terms of getting older you know hitting that kind of late 30s not being old but just older and just being able to put things in perspective, you know what I'm saying? He was very, you know, his movie, like hearing him talk about the process of how, you know, 22 work in the door at a comedy seller and thinking you're going to do your first movie by 24, but you don't do it to 10 years later.

I mean, that resonates so much, man, like that, you know, when people say that the entertainment, and this is me and unpaid, we've had this conversation on Texas before, when people say that the entertainment, you know, it takes hard. I don't think anyone ever realizes how much hard work it is. I don't think they realize that it's like, no, it's going to be 10, 15, 20 years of just fucking slavery until one day you'll see light and it's like, oh shit, you know, we made it. But yeah, man, I learned that a lot of our stories are very similar.

Cool. Big ups the mic. I'm paid Bill. What did you learn today? I learned that I need to keep a running document of Fonte's quotes. number one number two I thought

well cash in inverse is selling out I thought that was fascinating idea because I've never ever heard that before don't forget pulling out well that's that

nutting nutting nutting out yeah you know and I would honestly I would not have watched that movie had we not been here

talking to Mike because I don't ever watch movies because I don't have any goddamn time wait I was like yet you're in the industry I know But I don't, I don't, I don't, it's the one thing that, like, is foreign to me. I don't, I don't know.

Kids, man. Kids. I hate, I hate. But, but I was, I was saying that, that I haven't seen a movie like that in a while that was so universal that appealed to me in a way that I thought, I was almost, after I watched it, I was embarrassed to come in here and to say to everybody, that's about me. Like, like, that movie is straight up my life, like that, like, except the improv shit, which I'm not that into, but, like, having a group of friends. Wait, unpaid bill. I know I play in an improv. This is the improv.

I get it. We are improv shoot. It's true. It's true. Zap. Zoop. Soup. Yeah.

Yeah. So I was just, I was, it was just interesting to see how universal your own story is and how other people share that shit. And it's nice to know that the journey in life is with other people. True. There you go. Uh, paid Steve. Partially paid Steve. Oh, at two, motherfucker.

All right, so what did you learn, uh, Steve? I learned that Mike Brubigley's name is not my man. Um, I learned a lot about him. He's an introspective, bright guy who has good grip on things and it's creative. And, um, but like unpaid bill. I didn't think I was going to be into the movie. I'm not into independent films. I'm not into improv.

I don't like being told to watch a movie. Sorry. But again, like these guys that came out of it, sort of thinking, you know, I can relate to some or all of those characters in the sense, especially in the sense of what I brought up to him, that sort of duality of rooting for your friends and also sort of having that.

constant jealousy to beat them to the finish line. There's an Oscar Wild quote about that where it's like, you know, it's something to the effect of you can, it's easy, basically it's easy to be friends in times of sympathy when your friends need their sympathy, but can you be a friend in their time of success? Like, that's what tests friendships. It's not, just quote Oscar Wilde.

Yeah. Fucker you, man. Somebody that never smoke no weed. Every time we do this shit, you, You will quote the dumbest television show, the dumbest, smartest philosopher, rapper. And then, like, and Hemingway once said. Who the fuck are you, man?

Fuck you. To what time of my hands, brother? You need to be alone by yourself, like, with money and just, like, novels. Like, you could be in prison for all I know. Anyway, sorry. So I'm paid bill. What did you learn? No, that's paid bill.

I'm paid bill. I'm my fault. What did I learn? I mean, I think everybody. pretty much already touched on it so far. You know, just watching the movie, which probably wasn't a movie I would have normally watched.

But, like, by the end of it, I got so wrapped up in it because, like, everybody said it was, like, watching my life on screen. Like, I'm not an improv. I'm not, you know, into, I'm not a musician or anything, but just so much of it rang true with just seeing, being on

Facebook every day and seeing what my friends are doing. See where I am in life. And, you know, you know, some people I'm ahead of, some people I'm way behind. So, you know, it's, it's, I don't know, it's weird. Getting old, it's, it kind of sucks. I don't like it. How old are you?

I'm 36. Get the, man. I said, I said getting older. No, I thought you were like 46. No, I am a year and like a week or something younger than Fonte. Yeah. I'm a year and a week younger than you then. Look, man.

I don't like this. I don't, I, I, I, I, I mean, look, I'm not saying that everybody's journey got to be my journey. But again, I was kind of ready, you know, 38, 39. I was like, ah, well, this was nice. It was cool. I'm like you. And then, you know, evident, like a window open.

I'm just saying that it can happen late. But a lot of times, I don't think that's late. I don't think that's what I'm praying for. Dude, that's not late. I think that's kind of poor for the course. I mean, well, yeah, but just a lot, usually post 35, we start like, okay, might as well. I think you're just looking at it from the perspective of being in the music industry. And I'm man.

Like in any other field, you know, success. You say man with like 12 syllables? Man. Okay, go right. In any other industry, most people don't find success in their 20s. So, you know. Man, talk about it. I think we were the generation that was, I always say that did he messed it up.

I say the Diddy messed up when he quit college and kept doing those trips to New York and got success early and became millionaires and everybody looked at Diddy and was like, you know what? It could be done by 20-something. But not for you. Oh, I thought you meant him having a successful rap career as a non-wrapper. That's how Kim Kardashian looked at it, but I'm just saying that. Well, yeah, did he's the beginning of the quarter personality. Right. So, but yeah, it starts with him and ends with Kim.

Oh, but here's what I learned today. Thank you for asking Mr. Love. Mr. Love. I learned that I'm like y'all, I'm really in the improv did stand up a couple times and whatnot. And so for Mike, I realized that you know what? It's possible to live your dreams

and it's possible to use all these tools for the greater good because I'm hoping at some point that all those classes and improv groups and stuff leave something else. So I'm just saying that's what I learned today. It's led you to this. Oh, that's right. I made it.

Yeah. You did. What did you learn? Like, seeing, being as the ELSA statement, as the leader of this flock. Now I feel like I'm going to let you all down again because the one thing I learned, I'm going to try it tonight.

Okay. I'm going to sleep in and sleeping back. You're going to pot it out. I just, I want to see. With mittens on. Oh, I ain't going with the mittens. Better make sure I have an inside zipper, though, because you'd be.

Well, no, only because I'm one of those people who's, uh, Air conditioning. Like you ever, are you ever so cold in the morning or hot in the morning that you're too lazy to get out of bed to just change the temperature day? Oh, yeah. So you just rather suffer through it and just hope that. Or take your clothes off or do something. Or, right.

I'm one of those lazy can't walk to the air conditioner just to turn it down or whatever. So right now, like, my join is like on freeze times pie. Like my room's like 41 degrees It's like Kelvin We call that strip club weather Is that what we call it? Yeah because that's they keep the nipples hard That's how to keep the nipples hard

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